Every year at the MACo event in Ocean City, we add up the numbers of the Maryland Lottery. Seth Elkin brings the real math of state contributions to Nestor as we learn where the money goes and what it does to help citizens after all of the winners and second chances.

Maryland Lottery and gaming operations generated major state revenue in the latest fiscal year, with Seth explaining how lottery, casinos, and sports wagering each contribute to Maryland programs.

Revenue Split

Lottery Profit

• Seth said lottery profit totaled $681.6 million, with about 25 cents of every dollar spent on lottery tickets returning to the state.
• $532 million went to Maryland’s general fund for broad state needs such as schools, public health, and safety programs.
• Roughly $149 million was directed to other accounts, including Camden Yards funding, the Prince George’s Blue Line Corridor, Baltimore City Public Transit, Baltimore City Schools construction, bus rapid transit, sports and entertainment facilities, local impact grants, and the Maryland Humanities Council.

Gaming Sources

Casinos and Sports Wagering

• Casino contributions totaled $822.2 million. Nearly $600 million supported the Education Trust Fund, with additional funding going to local jurisdictions, horse racing, and a minority and women-owned business fund that received $20 million.
• Casinos also paid $4.4 million into the Problem Gambling Fund, which supports responsible gaming resources including 1-800-GAMBLER.
• Sports wagering contributed $132.3 million to the state for the fiscal year. Seth said about 98% of sports betting handle is now mobile, far above earlier expectations that retail locations would play a larger role.

Product Trends

Sales Patterns

• Seth highlighted scratch-offs as a major growth area for the Maryland Lottery, rising from the low 30% range of sales about a decade ago to nearly 40% now.
• The lottery has exceeded $1 billion in scratch-off sales for five straight years, helped by frequent game launches and licensed products such as Ravens tickets.
• Jackpot rolls remain a major sales driver. During the recent Powerball run to $1.04 billion, Maryland produced more than $8 million in prizes, including a $1 million winner in Forest Hill and multiple $50,000 winners.

Key Questions

Open Issues

• How much additional growth can lottery products sustain as mobile sports wagering becomes more dominant?
• Will retail sportsbooks remain a small niche as consumer behavior continues shifting toward mobile betting?

• Distribute Ravens scratch-off lottery tickets at The Fishmonger’s Daughter in Catonsville on the 19th and at Koco’s in Lauraville on the 26th. (@Nestor Aparicio)

Major Topic: Fiscal Year Results

• Seth reviewed the latest Maryland Lottery and gaming annual results.
• Lottery profit reached $681.6 million, described as the third-best total in lottery history.
• The discussion focused on where proceeds go and how different gaming channels support state funding.

Major Topic: Lottery Revenue Allocation

• About 25% of lottery ticket sales return to the state as profit.
• $532 million went to the general fund.
• Additional allocations supported Camden Yards, transit, school construction, the Maryland Stadium Authority, local impact funds, and cultural programs.

Major Topic: Casino Contributions

• Maryland’s six casinos generated $822.2 million in state contributions.
• The largest share supported the Education Trust Fund.
• Other funding supported host communities, horse racing, small business programs, and responsible gaming services.

Major Topic: Sports Wagering

• Sports wagering contributed $132.3 million to the state for the fiscal year.
• Seth said roughly 98% of sports betting handle is mobile rather than retail.
• The discussion emphasized responsible play and the role of 1-800-GAMBLER.

Major Topic: Product and Market Trends

• Scratch-offs have grown to nearly 40% of lottery sales.
• The Maryland Lottery has topped $1 billion in scratch-off sales for five consecutive years.
• Recent Powerball activity boosted interest and generated multiple Maryland winners during the jackpot roll.

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Nestor Aparicio 0:00
Welcome home. We are WNST AM 1570 Tass of Baltimore. We’re Baltimore positive. We are going to do lottery stuff. We’re at Mako. It’s all brought to you by friends at the Maryland Lottery. I should have punished Emily Keller, the former mayor of Hagerstown, because she’s a Commanders fan with this purple bird. But I’m going to get this guy instead. This is Seth Elkin from the Maryland Lottery. He is not a Ravens fan proudly. He’s going to have a worse year than we’re going to have here this year. But at least the Maryland Lottery had a good year every year here at Mako. Usually, John Martin joins it. Sometimes you join us as well to talk about the annual fiscal report. You guys run July to July, so this is kind of like fresh, hot off the presses here in August. This is a big thing that you do. I mean, the reason you’re in business is to create revenue for the state of Maryland, which I try to say. And then we get the pieces of the pie and where all the money goes. You can find all this at mblottery.com. You can find it out on the web as well. Anywhere you would click and playing responsibly and all the things that we do. It’s just, and I we talked to John about this, and I will before he exits, and Jeremy before he enters. It is such a complex organization. You came from journalism on the outside to ask questions. I think you’re a math guy and a sports guy at heart, and numbers. I think your stats wonk a little bit, and your and your real the way you really are. Some of my

Seth Elkin 1:20
former teachers would dispute you of being a math guy, but I would

Nestor Aparicio 1:23
say for you that you working for the lottery. I’m always impressed by you because you know all of this stuff and you’re the communication guy and you know all these numbers. But it is-it’s like a football team when Pashadi bought it or a baseball team. It’s a unique. All these agencies that are here, the lottery operates differently under the state for 51, 52 years now, whatever it’s been, and it’s just it’s its own animal, and I don’t think people understand it. They play. I see people now that I’m involved with a lot. We see people with tickets coming in and out of places all the time, and nobody knows where the money goes. And I guess this is the time for us to take a little while, half an hour, and just talk about like all these casinos, MGM Live, Horseshoe, Hollywood, Rocky Cat, all the games, Mega, Cash for Life, Victory, all these things. This is this is not Louis the bookmaker. This is only up and up, and it helps keep the state run. Yes,

Seth Elkin 2:14
that’s one of the things I enjoy about being at Mako because in this event, in this atmosphere, now obviously it’s a it’s an event for the counties, but it’s also all the state agencies that are here, as you mentioned, and legislators that are here, and all of the counties that are here. It’s a it’s a roomful of people who I think really are genuinely interested in exactly what you’re talking about. How does the lottery do what it does? Where does the money go? How much is there? And and there’s a real curiosity about it, and a lot of our events that we go to, we we go to events to have fun for the most part. We’re there to to have fun with with spin the wheels that are there that are there celebrating and eating and having a good time. It’s a recreational activity, but yeah, this is a this is a different kind of an event, but but one that that I really enjoy because of this room full of people who’s genuinely interested in what we do. So I think

Nestor Aparicio 3:00
it’s a fun time for me. All right, generated 1.676363 7 billion.

Seth Elkin 3:06
See, I am good at

Nestor Aparicio 3:07
the number. Yeah, you corrected me. Where does this money go?

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Seth Elkin 3:11
It depends on which piece of it you’re talking about. It goes all over the place. There’s this

Nestor Aparicio 3:15
side where the money goes, and then there’s this side of where the money. Let’s start with the lottery.

Seth Elkin 3:19
The lottery, the profit from the sale of lottery tickets about 25

Nestor Aparicio 3:22
cents out of each dollar that’s spent on lottery tickets goes back to the state. Most of that-that’s the juice. That’s the profit. Meg, make 25. But but literally, when you make that that that wager, you’re wondering like if I win or if I lose out of the pot. We always say, how much does a house get, right? So, and out of that, that’s that’s a nice, sizable amount of money.

Seth Elkin 3:43
25% That’s why we’re doing the lot. Okay, most of that ends up in the state’s general fund, which where it’s joined with other sources of revenue, and it supplies budgets for all sorts of things: schools and public health and safety programs, and all sorts of things. $532 million to the general fund, and then the remainder, the total was 681.6 million in lottery profit. So 532 that went into the general fund, and then the remainder about 149 million that spread across various other accounts. Can I read them out? It’s a lot of things. It’s a lot. It’s a it’s a growing list every year. There are larger than there were before. I’m going to say

Nestor Aparicio 4:20
it, and then you see if you’re a listener how many of these things you use or have used or aware that every day the lottery funds these things. Camden Yards, heard of that? Yeah, we’ll be down there. So let’s start with that. 34 million. Prince George’s Blue Line corridor, 27 million. Baltimore City Public Transit. Baltimore City Schools construction 20 million, M. Dot that’s bus rapid transit fund 17 million, MSA Camden Yards baseball facilities 13 million big TVs, MSA sports entertainment facilities. That’s an interesting thing when you say MSA. In a building here in the convention center that was built by the MSA. Yeah, and and I’ll say this about this convention center: I had never been upstairs. They put me upstairs here, which is a lot warmer. The lights nicer. I’m very happy to be clandestine here as well. They look like they’re trying to hide me and shove me in the corner, but I like it. This is a beautiful facility, and the MSA doesn’t just build stadiums. Yeah, I think they build. They do a lot of different things. That’s

Seth Elkin 5:22
something I found myself explaining people over the years too. The Maryland Stadium Authority. It’s not just stadiums. There are all kinds of school projects and parks and all kinds of things that they do. If you go to their website, I had the

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Nestor Aparicio 5:31
Mara Hagerstown on here talking about her sports complex. MSA was involved in that.

Seth Elkin 5:34
They do. They do a really good job of of showing people the projects that they work on. If you go to their website, so it’s a it’s a real resource for them.

Nestor Aparicio 5:41
Sports entertainment facilities. The MSA itself-that’s MSA-is about 3414, 12, and 11. Do the math on that. About 6065, $70 million of this money going to the MSA right off the top. Major sports and entertainment events: 6 million. Supplemental local impact in Prince George’s County. I can’t call. Thank you, GG. It gets a little esoteric from here. Yeah, yeah. Anne Arundel County, Michael Aaron Bush Sports Fund, Maryland Veterans Trust Fund, Maggie McIntosh. I love her. Arch Impact every day. Supplemental Local Impact. Laurel Race Courts get 250 grand, and the Maryland Humanities Council as well continued its growth this year. Profit to the state 681 point 6 million. This is the third best total in Maryland lottery history, and one of the reasons for that is we have a whole new wing. Right, like literally, the lottery along with horse racing was the only way you could gamble when I was a young man, right? And that changed

Seth Elkin 6:37
16 years ago.

Nestor Aparicio 6:38
Well, right. So I mean that’s why there’s other. That’s why it’s not number one anymore, right? Or the the the highest that it’s been ever because these other pots of wagering and other possibilities are there, right? Lot

Seth Elkin 6:52
fluctuates from year to year, and there are all kinds of factors that play into where the lottery sales and lottery profit end up. Jackpot rolls, which we just got done with one, certainly play a factor in that. I did

Nestor Aparicio 7:02
not win. My wife did not win. Illinois,

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Seth Elkin 7:05
Illinois, 1

Nestor Aparicio 7:06
billion is that one?

Seth Elkin 7:07
1.0 4 billion is where it ended up. It’s the eighth largest jackpot in Powerball history that was hit on Wednesday in Illinois. So we had a $50,000 winner here. We had we had more than $8 million worth of prizes during the roll. During the roll, during three plus months. We had a

Nestor Aparicio 7:26
million, right? We had 331, million. One of

Seth Elkin 7:28
those was this week in Foster, at the Harvester supermarket in Foster, on the road.

Nestor Aparicio 7:35
Another millionaire in Hartford County, and amen. I

Speaker 1 7:38
have to say

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Seth Elkin 7:38
it like I’m from Baltimore, right?

Nestor Aparicio 7:40
Let’s talk sports wagering, and let’s talk about mobile, and let’s talk about all this and the casinos as how it goes. Yeah, we

Seth Elkin 7:46
skipped the $822 million. Let’s not skip that. Let’s not skip that. Go ahead, casinos. $822.2 million in contributions to the state from the casinos, and I think most of that goes to the education trust fund, almost $600 million worth. So, and it also supports the communities and the jurisdictions where the casinos are located. There’s a portion of it goes to the horse racing industry. There is a portion that goes to a small minority and women-owned business fund that supports small businesses. 20 million. The casinos are supporting all of those things, and then they also make an annual. Each casino pays an assessment every year into the Problem Gambling Fund to support programs. 4.4 million to support programs for responsible gaming. When you call one 800 Gambler, and you’ll get access to the the free resources that are available. That’s where the funding is coming from. So that from the casinos paying that asset.

Nestor Aparicio 8:42
You know, I’ve been in all of these casinos. I haven’t been in Ocean Dallas. I drove past it; it’s right here. I have not been there, not in 25 years since it was the track. I didn’t know what was bigger or better. And obviously, MGM’s about to get a sphere, right? Do things. I was down there. I’ve been to all these places for concerts, and horseshoe up in in Perryville, MGM 816 million, Maryland Live 703 million with a $300 million contribution, Horseshoe 176 million, Hollywood 84 million in revenue, 44 million contributed to the state, Ocean Downs, and then Rocky Gap at the end of 53 million. So six casinos here in the state, but MGM and Live, clearly you know bigger properties and all of that, but just an enormous amount of money. I mean, you see those casinos on the hill,

Seth Elkin 9:30
and you say, “Oh, you know, David Cordish did that years ago, and MGM and all that. This year, 650 million, and and and like just in the state from those facilities being there, yep, 822 million total in contributions, and of course, you know it goes beyond just those those gaming taxes because you’re talking about 6,000 employees, sure, across the state. You’re talking about people who go to the casinos for entertainment purposes. They’re maybe not on the gaming floor. I saw Getty Lee at the MGM on a book. A couple years ago, you know, there you go. Yeah, you know, people who come there and maybe for an event like that. So there are all kinds of events that are going on that amenities that go beyond.

Nestor Aparicio 10:10
Well, I did Sammy Hagar was an amenity for me at the MGM a couple weeks ago. Seth Elkin is here. He’s communicating for all things communications at the Maryland Lottery. We’re down here at Mako. I’m gonna have Ravens scratch offs. We’ll get to all of this and home run riches and pass for cash and tickets for 20 years and all that stuff. But we’re about to enter into the sports wagering season. Let me guess: in September, I’ll be saying 1-800 Gambler a lot because we kind of need to do that as we ramp up into this thing. This month must be the quietest month of the year, right, for sports wagering, right? I’m thinking about where baseball is, and there aren’t a lot of opportunities. There’s no World Cup, there’s no Final Four, there’s no golf tournaments. This is a kind of a slow month, but we’re going to ramp up into this. And once we get into September, this part of this, we go back far enough now with you, me, and John, where you came and reported before there were sports wagering numbers. You’re only five,

Seth Elkin 11:00
six years into this, right? Typically, you think of the spring and summer months as being a little bit slower because the calendar isn’t as busy, the sports calendar. But as you say, the World Cup certainly threw some things in July. I think we had $8.4 million in contributions to the state. That’ll be a July record. That’ll hold for a couple years, right? And for July, that it was higher. It was up more than a million dollars from what it was in July of 2021, so we’re already off to a start where we’re ahead of last year’s. Sure. So that’s that’s certainly good news, and we were way ahead of the pace year over year for FY 26, 132.3 million in contributions to the state from the sports betting operators. So big a lot of that. So

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Nestor Aparicio 11:39
we’re at a point here. Hold on. Sports wagering contributions stayed 132 million, and out of the lottery, I’m just trying to see how much is being wagered on our phones versus lottery tickets from the top to the bottom in regard to the handle.

Seth Elkin 11:53
The interesting thing about that is, I would say it’s about 98 percent of the handle in sports betting is mobile online, and we thought was going to be 85 years ago. Yeah, that was our anticipation. But you know, the way this market has evolved and developed, that’s the way people want to engage. And it’s different than the casinos

Nestor Aparicio 12:12
thought five, six years ago that it would be in person.

Seth Elkin 12:15
Certainly, very different. Yeah, and the retail sportsbooks certainly a very small percentage of that, but you know it’s all a matter of how you like to engage. Some people would rather go and hang out and watch a game, put a bet down, and watch the game and see how they do. Other people like the the faster pace of being able to bet as a game’s in progress, which is so certainly you can get yourself in a little bit of trouble doing that. So as you say, we remind people all want energy gamble and be aware of the resources that are available and do this responsibly. It’s not it’s not an investment strategy. It’s not a way of life. It’s an entertainment. It’s a form of entertainment. It’s a private treatment.

Nestor Aparicio 12:52
Well, I think the other thing with the lottery is it never ends and it’s every day and it’s all the time. And there was a big roll this week for Powerball and we’re launching this and that and all. Sports wagering really does it’s it takes a game, you know what I mean? Like literally, and the games only happen a couple hours a day, right? How many bets you’re going to make on any one sport, or even if you do bet a lot, or you like to play, you play small, whatever you play. I would think that there, the lottery is five times bigger than sports wagering, still to this day, because sports wagering feels big, but only at 7o’clock at night, only for a couple hours usually, where the lottery’s more. People are buying tickets all day long. I think it’s

Seth Elkin 13:33
it’s a it’s a thing where you got to be a sports fan to lay down. Sure, and you know somebody who’s not, I I know people who will go and buy Powerball tickets when the jackpot is rolling, who are not sports fans, and they they would never they would never download a well sports fan

Nestor Aparicio 13:49
sports fan and I know I’m getting this wrong and you’ll correct me. You would say I’m betting on sports. It feels like I’m I I I can know something. I can have some as opposed to pulling a slot or a picking a number, which is more of a game of chance. They’re all games of chance, but sports fans are delusional to think I know more, or I have insight. No one thinks I have inside information on what numbers coming out tonight in a number. But with sports, you do feel like you’re in control of your. You could have

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Seth Elkin 14:19
more knowledge. We all think we know more than we do. We’re a

Nestor Aparicio 14:22
Pirates fan. I’m an Oriole fan, you know. So we don’t, you know, how much can be possible, right?

Seth Elkin 14:26
Exactly. 54 years of. But to to my point, when

Nestor Aparicio 14:32
someone buys a lottery ticket, they don’t think they have an inside track. When someone makes a sports bet, they feel like they that they know something. It’s all. I’ve been doing this my whole life. I know that. That would also be a reason to not make a sports wager if you don’t feel like you know anything about it. Nobody feels that when they buy a lottery ticket. It’s not something that a

Seth Elkin 14:53
novice is going to try out. There you go. Whereas, so this is

Nestor Aparicio 14:55
never going to catch that. I guess is

Seth Elkin 14:57
my point. The lottery or the casinos. I mean, even if you. Don’t really know how to play blackjack very well. You know how to count to 21, so you might walk in into a casino and you might decide to play. So it’s a it’s a simple enough concept that people can get it. But you’re right. The sports betting, if you don’t know and you don’t have an insight, you’re probably not going to lay down. So

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Nestor Aparicio 15:14
I don’t play baccarat. I don’t know what the hell I know how to play it. I see all those all the Asian table games. I don’t really understand. Again,

Seth Elkin 15:20
my math skills allow me to count to 21, and that’s about it. I play

Nestor Aparicio 15:24
blackjack. I play some craps. I’m not. I’m crappy at craps. You know. I mean, when I go to casino, but we encourage everyone to play responsibly when you play. The Maryland Lottery is a fun sponsor for us. We dig it. They’re giving me Raven Scratch Offs giveaway. We’re going to be at the Fisherman’s Fishmonger’s Daughter. Excuse me, in Catonsville next Wednesday on the 1926. We move to Koco’s in Lauraville. Seth Elkins, my pal. He’s here from the Communicating for All Things Maryland Lottery. John Martin is the outgoing executive director. We’re going to get Jeremy Baker around before it’s all over. So we’ll have new leadership next year. John’s done an amazing job, and this document is available up at mblottery.com to learn where your money, you’re the ones that are playing the lottery and doing all this. Anything surprising to an old hat like you? How long you been with the lottery, bub? It’s 11 years. 11 years. So 11 years ago, no sports wagering. That part didn’t exist. Some of these casinos were just coming online in different. A lot of the lottery games and like cash pop. Some of these didn’t exist in previous years. You, you’re a numbers guy. And what what are some outlining of? Hey, this was big. This was because we did talk about like retail sports wagering at the casino isn’t the thing that mobile is. Right. What else should people know about how this works, maybe they don’t know about the MSA either. I try to educate people on the service. On the

Seth Elkin 16:45
lottery side, you know, I think first of all, we recognized probably around a decade ago, around the time that I got there, that we had some room for growth with scrap activities, and that was an area where some you see some lotteries that might sell close to half of their sales volume in scratch off tickets, and we were a decade ago we were at in the low 30% We’re now at closer to 40% of our sales. Now, is fast

Nestor Aparicio 17:10
play considered a scratch off or no? No, no, it’s not just a scratch off

Seth Elkin 17:14
ticket. So we’re five years in a row now. We have surpassed $1 billion in sales on scratch offs alone. So that had never happened before, and that is something that certainly has developed over time. And you know, scratch off we’re launching new games on a monthly basis, and it gives you an opportunity to really be able to market that product on a on a continual basis. And of course, I’m gonna I’m gonna actually do something. I’m gonna pick up a Ravens ticket. I don’t I don’t like touched it. I don’t like touching things that are purple. I’m a Steelers fan. Touching

Nestor Aparicio 17:43
it,

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Seth Elkin 17:44
but you know when you when you have when you have tickets, scratch off tickets that are connected to licensed properties like this. It gives you even further marketing.

Nestor Aparicio 17:54
Well, I enjoyed the Harlem Globetrotters and Pac Man. I enjoyed the Maryland Treasures, which is out on the front of this. I mean, I don’t need to kiss John’s butt. He’s leaving now. But I always say, like, your creative team. You, I kid him about like who comes up with all these stupid ideas or crazy game ideas or whatever. But I mean, it is a it for all the lotteries. It trying to get people to engage and have fun with it and win. I hand these things out, all colors, all games, all different ways, and when I see people and when they play, I’m. It’s been shocking to me to some degree, in some way, to hand these out to see how people get excited about life. When I walk and give lottery tickets out, I feel like Santa Claus. There’s something engaged

Seth Elkin 18:36
about the about the play. You know, you don’t get engaged quite that same way with a draw game because you buy a ticket and then you’re waiting for a drawing to see if you match the winning numbers. This you find out instantly, so I think that’s part of it. My

Nestor Aparicio 18:49
wife pulled the 20 out. We went to Costas the other night, like Brandon Young pitch Monday night. We went Monday night to Costas against Twins. We got there right at game time. Mixologist John’s there, and Jen said to me, “Is that a lottery machine? Because it was a back to us. Because we’re in the OTB, so she thought it might have been a horse machine. And I looked and I saw the big red gold L on there, and I’m like, “Yeah, it’s a lottery machine. I walk back, I’m like, “Why did you ask me that? She’s like, she pulls a 20 out. She’s like, $1 billion. So she played. I clearly she didn’t win, right? Illinois. Yeah, Illinois.

Seth Elkin 19:30
But when is it

Nestor Aparicio 19:31
going to happen for us? Well,

Seth Elkin 19:32
you know, we did have plenty of winners along the way. We had a nice little role here going because we had the last. I want some

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Nestor Aparicio 19:37
skimpy million dollars. I want a billion. Hey,

Seth Elkin 19:40
million dollars, not skimpy. I’ll I’ll take that. It would get me out of this room. Three three. They would put me on

Nestor Aparicio 19:45
vacation till opening day. Three $1

Seth Elkin 19:48
million winners in the spring of two weeks, including

Nestor Aparicio 19:51
Foster,

Seth Elkin 19:51
and and we had $150,000 winner earlier this week. We had $100,000 winner in Edgewood several weeks back. 15 winners. It’s actually 16 now of 60 of $50,000 prizes along our way. So we’re giving away Jack in a Grand Slam, though. Just so you know, we need more Grand Slams than we need for Home on Richards, right? Pirates are struggling, though, right? I mean, it’s it’s yeah. Thanks for noticing. It’s teetering, huh? Yeah, it’s it’s been fun. By the time people

Nestor Aparicio 20:20
listen to this. People have played the Rays and the Yankees. You know, like this is not this. This is going to be a difference-making week for the Baltimore Orioles. I think.

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Seth Elkin 20:28
You hope?

Nestor Aparicio 20:30
Well, one way it’s going to be. Well, maybe not. They go five and five. They remain three games back of the wild card, and we keep talking about it. Yeah,

Seth Elkin 20:37
it’s been a struggle for both of those teams this year. So,

Nestor Aparicio 20:40
you want to ski? You got a skeans jersey yet, or no? I

Seth Elkin 20:42
do not have a skean’s jersey. I I might wait and see if he sticks around through whatever happens next.

Nestor Aparicio 20:47
I come to Seth’s office, yeah, every two three times a year to pick up lottery tickets with Roz, and I love that his office has a Pittsburgh Penguins floor mat because it gives me something to wipe my shoes off when I come in. But then you have all of this Bradshaw and Franco and all that, how many Pittsburgh sports jerseys do you have?

Seth Elkin 21:05
Too many for me to list.

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Nestor Aparicio 21:08
Oh, okay, all right. Penguins.

Seth Elkin 21:10
I got caught up buying Penguins jerseys when they when they went through that nice little. Okay, so you have a Crosby. I have more than one Crosby. What colors? Black. You had the blue one. Black, white, and gold. I have three to five.

Nestor Aparicio 21:23
You know, I collect. I collect belt buckles. We’re on a

Seth Elkin 21:27
tangent

Nestor Aparicio 21:28
now. No, no, no, no. That’s fine. That we’re on a tangent because that’s what we do on the show. Is is we do tangents. I had to show you that there was this Pittsburgh Penguins belt buckle. I was going to buy this right here. I want to show you. I’ll show it on the screen here, so you can get a look at it. You tell me what that logo is, dude. What is that?

Seth Elkin 21:45
That is the old school Penguins logo from probably 1971. Yeah, early on in their history. It was

Nestor Aparicio 21:51
a $59 buckle, and I didn’t buy it. I really screwed up. But that’s that’s legit, right? You would own that, right? That’s a good looking buckle.

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Seth Elkin 21:59
That’s that’s that’s a nice looking boy.

Nestor Aparicio 22:02
That looks like to me that looks like Bob Erie and I’m trying to think of all the early the skipjacks that came through Alain Lemieux. Who else?

Seth Elkin 22:13
Did Mark Reckey play here

Nestor Aparicio 22:14
for a minute? Yeah, for a minute. Yeah,

Seth Elkin 22:16
yeah. That that era, late 1980s, right before they got really good. So

Nestor Aparicio 22:21
Rick Talkett,

Seth Elkin 22:23
Rick Talkett came from Philadelphia. I think

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Nestor Aparicio 22:25
of him as a flyer. Yeah, that

Seth Elkin 22:26
that that’s that was tough for us to make a trade with the Flyers. You know,

Nestor Aparicio 22:30
I still hate the Flyers. You hate the Flyers? Yeah,

Seth Elkin 22:32
I don’t have much love lost for the Flyers.

Nestor Aparicio 22:34
As a Penguins fan, that do you hate the Caps the most? Like, is that that there really is a Caps Penguins thing?

Seth Elkin 22:39
That is a difficult. Well, the Caps were like your your sorry no account little brother who can’t get out of his own way. They won one. They couldn’t beat us, and then they finally did. But the I was glad to witness it. The rivalry with the with the Flyers was much more intense. So, and they they got they got good far before the Penguins got good, and were so for a long time.

Nestor Aparicio 23:01
They won anything. The Flyers don’t get.

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Seth Elkin 23:03
They depend how many years ago. How

Nestor Aparicio 23:04
many cups have you won?

Seth Elkin 23:06
Five.

Nestor Aparicio 23:08
And the Flyers have

Seth Elkin 23:10
won. Have won. And you

Nestor Aparicio 23:10
brag about your frigging football team, and they won anything, right?

Seth Elkin 23:14
Well, that’s what we do. We live on the past.

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Nestor Aparicio 23:18
I’m not going to talk about 71 or 79. Ah, look at the time. Got to go. Seth Elkin is here. He communicates for the Maryland Lottery. The Maryland Lottery and Gaming fiscal year annual summary is up. My thanks to John Martin, also Seth. Everybody on the lottery team for always being great to us. They work hard. You guys are good people down there. We appreciate you. I’ll be giving these away on the 19th. The Fishmonger’s daughter. The 26th will be a Koco’s, and then we’re getting into football season. And the Purple Bird will-we don’t play the Steelers for like late year, right? Yeah, I haven’t looked at the schedule. It’s Decembery. It’s weird again. Football season right around the corner. If you want to see the numbers, lottery doing good stuff. And as always, if you got anybody in your family with a problem, 1-800 Gambler, get some help before football season starts. Baseball season is here. I need some help for baseball season. Luke’s out, Noing’s Mills. I’m down here in Ocean City. We’re at Mako. It’s all brought to you by the Maryland Lottery, conjunction with GBMC and our partners at Farnan and Dermer. I’m appreciative because Zach sent me very comfortable air here. I did not have to wear a sweatshirt. Senator Chris Van Hollen is coming by. We’ve had former mayor of Hagerstown Emily Keller talking about drugs in Tsarina of the state. We’ve also had Michael O’Connor on the mayor of Frederick, also the mayor of Ocean City. Rick Mihan has been on, and Tom Perlazzo talking about his big sports dream for Berlin, Maryland, to turn Ocean City into a year-round destination for local sports teams, they need to get a 190-acre campus over in Berlin. Some of it funded by this with the Maryland Stadium Authority, so very important if you want to bring your kids or grandkids, in our case, down to the beach sometime. And don’t. Who wants to go to Virginia? Beach, not I. I’m in Ocean City, Maryland. We’re back for more. I’m wearing my little. Tom gave me a pin too. Look at that. There you go. Oh, see this one. It’s Pittsburgh’s beach too. It is Pittsburgh’s beach. I don’t see them up a road, but they’re doing. We’re back for more. We’re in Ocean City, Maryland, at the convention center. Fish pal lives. We’re Baltimore positive. Stay with us.