It’s always a load of Washington sports with longtime WTOP sports guy Dave Preston but this time Nestor finally gets to ignore a meaningless Nationals and Orioles series to take a deep dive on all things James Bond, movies, music and lore with the podcast host of “Bond, James Bond: Ranked.” Nobody does it better…

Nestor Aparicio and Dave Preston discuss their favorite James Bond movies and lore. Nestor fondly recalls watching “The Man with the Golden Gun” as a child, while Dave critiques the film’s script and character development. They also touch on the evolution of the Bond series, mentioning key films like “Skyfall” and “The Spy Who Loved Me.” Dave’s podcast, “Bond James Bond Ranked,” ranks Bond movies using various criteria. They share personal anecdotes, including Nestor’s encounter with James Taylor and Dave’s interactions with celebrities. They conclude by planning a future Bond movie viewing night. Dave Preston and Nestor Aparicio discuss their favorite James Bond movies and related trivia. They reminisce about Christopher Lee’s military background and his resemblance to Dick Cass. The conversation shifts to Bond actresses, including Britt Eckland and her connection to Rod Stewart’s song “You’re in My Heart.” They plan to watch “Man with the Golden Gun” and “Thunderball,” with a bet on Brit Eckland’s bikini scenes. Dave mentions his “Break Up the Birds” and “O’s Wo’s” segments for Orioles fans, and his Bond podcast, where “Man with the Golden Gun” ranks low. Nestor reflects on his long career and plans to feature Sally Taylor on his show.

Action Items

• [ ] @Nestor Aparicio – Send Dave a photo of yourself in front of the Bottoms Up Club in Hong Kong for use in the Bond discussion.
• [ ] @Nestor Aparicio – Locate the photo of yourself in front of the Lan Kwai Fong Bottoms Up Club in Hong Kong and share it with Dave.
• [ ] @Nestor Aparicio – Find the Goldfinger movie poster photo you have and share it with Dave.
• [ ] @Nestor Aparicio – Recruit Max and Alan to join you for a Bond movie viewing night, starting with The Man with the Golden Gun.
• [ ] @Nestor Aparicio – Listen to Carly Simon’s “Nobody Does It Better” in honor of Dave’s favorite Bond song.
• [ ] @Nestor Aparicio – Get Sally Taylor on your show to discuss her father James Taylor and her experiences.
• [ ] @Nestor Aparicio – Ask Dave which Rod Stewart song he wrote about Britt Eckland, clarifying it is not the song about Rachel Hunter.
• [ ] @Nestor Aparicio – Find the photo of yourself at the James Bond party hosted by Terrell Suggs at the Hyatt.
• [ ] @Nestor Aparicio – Locate all of your old Bond-related photos before the episode airs on Baltimore Positive.
• [ ] Watch The Man with the Golden Gun before the planned Bond viewing night.
• [ ] Watch Thunderball before the planned Bond viewing night.

Outline

WTOP Sports and Personal Updates

• Nestor Aparicio introduces the show, mentioning upcoming events and sponsors like the Maryland Lottery and GBMC.
• Nestor talks about his diet and health, mentioning his favorite foods and thanks GBMC for keeping him healthy.
• Nestor discusses the current state of the Washington Nationals and their potential performance against the Nationals.
• Nestor introduces Dave Preston, a longtime sports director at WTOP, and they reminisce about their friendship and mutual interests.

Discussion on Washington Sports Teams

• Nestor and Dave discuss the Washington Capitals, mentioning Ovechkin’s potential final season and the team’s performance.
• They talk about the Capitals’ young players and the future of key players like Tom Wilson.
• Nestor shares personal anecdotes about attending Capitals games and his wife’s family connections to the team.
• They reflect on the history of the Capitals and the changes in the team’s dynamics over the years.

Bond James Bond Ranked Podcast

• Dave introduces his podcast, Bond James Bond Ranked, where they rank each James Bond movie using various criteria.
• They discuss the different elements of Bond movies, including the Bond actor, Bond girl, Bond villain, and pre-credit sequence.
• Dave explains the scoring system used in the podcast and their current ranking of Skyfall.
• Nestor expresses his interest in the podcast and mentions his favorite Bond movie, The Man with the Golden Gun.

Nestor’s Favorite Bond Movie

• Nestor shares his personal connection to The Man with the Golden Gun, mentioning his first experience watching it at the Highway Movie Theater.
• He discusses his fascination with Bond movies and the impact of the series on his childhood.
• Dave provides a critical analysis of The Man with the Golden Gun, highlighting its strengths and weaknesses.
• They discuss the evolution of the Bond series and the different styles of Bond actors like Connery and Moore.

Bond Movie Trivia and Personal Stories

• Dave shares trivia about Bond movies, including the use of product placement and the involvement of various actors in the series.
• They discuss the challenges faced by the Bond series over the years and the impact of different producers and writers.
• Nestor shares personal stories about meeting celebrities and attending events related to Bond movies.
• They talk about the cultural significance of Bond movies and the enduring appeal of the series.

Future Bond Viewing Plans

• Nestor suggests organizing a Bond movie viewing night with friends and colleagues.
• They discuss potential Bond movies to watch, including Thunderball and Goldfinger.
• Dave shares his experience of watching Bond movies on HBO and the impact of different Bond actors on his perception of the series.
• They express their enthusiasm for future Bond-related activities and discussions.

Casual Conversations and Personal Interests

• Nestor and Dave engage in casual conversations about their personal interests, including sports, music, and movies.
• They share anecdotes about attending concerts and events, and their experiences with various celebrities.
• Dave shares his love for James Taylor and the impact of meeting his daughter, Sally Taylor.
• They discuss their favorite Bond songs and the significance of music in the Bond series.

Reflections on Bond Movies and Personal Connections

• Nestor reflects on his long-standing fascination with Bond movies and the impact of the series on his life.
• Dave shares his insights into the Bond series and the different elements that make each movie unique.
• They discuss the importance of Bond movies in popular culture and the enduring appeal of the series.
• Nestor expresses his gratitude for the opportunity to discuss Bond movies with Dave and looks forward to future discussions.

Discussion on James Bond Movies and Related Memories

• Dave Preston and Nestor Aparicio discuss their favorite James Bond gadgets and characters, with a particular focus on Christopher Lee’s role.
• Nestor Aparicio reminisces about Dick Cass resembling Christopher Lee and mentions other Bond actresses like Maude Adams and Britt Eckland.
• The conversation shifts to Rod Stewart’s songs, with Nestor Aparicio recalling his favorite tracks and the women they were allegedly about, including Britt Eckland and Rachel Hunter.
• Dave Preston and Nestor Aparicio decide to watch “Man with the Golden Gun” and “Thunderball,” with a humorous bet involving Brit Eckland’s appearances in bikinis.

Nestor Aparicio’s Career and Bond Podcast

• Nestor Aparicio reflects on his career, mentioning his work with WTOP and his long-term following of the Washington sports teams.
• He discusses his podcast, “Betty Bond,” which focuses on James Bond movies and lore, and mentions his ranking of Bond films.
• Nestor Aparicio talks about his commitment to covering both the Washington Nationals and Baltimore Orioles, despite the Orioles’ rough year.
• He highlights the “Break Up the Birds” and “O’s Wo’s” segments in the Nationals Notebook, which discuss the Orioles’ performance.

Personal Reflections and Future Plans

• Nestor Aparicio shares his personal connection to Britt Eckland, recalling her influence on him as a young boy.
• Dave Preston and Nestor Aparicio discuss their plans to watch Bond movies and the importance of having a deep dive topic for their show.
• Nestor Aparicio mentions his goal of finding old pictures to share on his show, “Baltimore Positive.”
• The conversation ends with a light-hearted note, as they look forward to their upcoming movie night and Bond-themed discussions.

Nestor Aparicio 0:01
Welcome home. We are W N S T A M 1570 Towson, Baltimore. We are Baltimore positive. We are positive. We get in the Maryland Crab Cake Tour out on the road. Be it Sorrento Barbudas this week. We will be at Green Mount Station in Amsted on the 24th of next week. I’m having some great guests up there in Carroll County. It’s all brought to you by the Maryland Lottery. I’ll have the Maryland Treasures. You got to go across this bridge to get to this boardwalk. You do, it’s the Maryland Treasures, Maryland Lottery. Your friends at GBMC, keeping me alive. And every time I go to eat the French fries into gravy at Pizza John’s, I have to pass when I’m getting a salad. They get a little tiramisu, though, Dave, but I’m trying to cut back a little bit, not because I’m getting fat with a pH, but just because of, like, this, a 1c the cholesterol, whatever it is, anyway. Thank you, GBMC, for keeping me straight. Also, our friends at Foreign A Dermer, we’re making sure that my HVAC doesn’t have cholesterol, they’re the comfort guys, 410 36777 I’ve been reading ads here a long time, this guy works in radio, he’s in WTO P down in Washington, DC. Everyone’s WTO P, Washington DC. That’s sort of.. I could do a whole pig vomit, W N S T, W T O P. We don’t play the Nationals like a tool. There’s a rumor that if the Euros were to go two and seven on this trip, they would come back 10 games under 500 playing the Nationals. I’m hoping it doesn’t go in that direction as we wipe the sleep from our eyes, and you hear Luke and I discussing Seattle and Los Angeles and Los Angeles and the Dodgers and Cho A and Money and a Dodger dog. Um, this guy’s been my friend for a long time, and this is the time of year. It’s Father’s Day week. He’s not pimping a book, although he’s certainly worthy of having a book. He has a podcast instead. He’s the longtime sports director, sports voice sports dude at WTO P. Although was Johnson the director? I don’t want to beat this. Are you the director, Dave? Is that right?

Dave Preston 2:00
No, I’m not. George Wallace is the sports director. I want to get the names wrong. I don’t

Nestor Aparicio 2:05
offend anybody. Dave

Dave Preston 2:06
Johnson, it was the senior sports director, right? Daddy comes on, when he comes on, they call him Sports Director Emeritus. Okay, he’s like, like he’s a former ambassador. I think I’m the associating coordinator, the coordinating associate, one of the two, neither of which carries in any way. Remember Jonathan Warner, who used to do evenings for us. I actually called him the junior assistant scout master, much to his displeasure. But yes, I’ve been Johnson.

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Nestor Aparicio 2:31
We’re around, we’d have a hell of a World Cup preview right now if that were the case. And you know, I’m going to get to his Wizards in a minute, and your Nationals, and even though, like, you’re from my wife’s hometown, my wife, back when I got married 23 years ago, my wife’s mother lived in your hometown, and I see all these pictures of you and your family, Red Sox, and your sister was a choosing for the Patriots Champion rings,

Dave Preston 2:55
Celtics,

Nestor Aparicio 2:56
and Celtics, yeah, yeah,

Dave Preston 2:58
she’s got multiple, she’s got multiple rings, and I’ve got my face up against the wall in the press box. Well, and you’re,

Nestor Aparicio 3:05
but you, I mean, you’ve moved down here, and I think of you as mr. GC, and all that. And I go back to you, like slinging stakes over in Tyson’s Corner back in the day, and you’ve been at this forever. I look at the Washington sports scene right now, and I’m like, hmm, thought the football team, maybe here we go, maybe it was okay, maybe it’ll be okay, I don’t know. Hockey team of Etchkin, no bueno. The ownership there, no bueno. The football ownership the last 30 years, no bueno. Baseball in out won a lot, then no bueno, right now, and well, the Wizards, you know what, while I’m watching all my Knicks friends that have all these life or Knicks fans that I have, and you’re said Celtics already, my wife’s Celtics, it’s I brought out my old Capitol Center book here just to feel good about West Unselled, and the big E, you know what I mean. When I see an old Capitol Center ticket stub, it makes me, it makes me feel like Baltimore, Washington are one, and we’re Kumbaya, and that the reflecting pool’s not blue, but green algae in it right now, and they’re not having cage fights on the lawn.

Dave Preston 4:18
Yeah, it’s been a, it’s been a year, it’s been a, it’s been a long year this month, needless to say. I mean, I think what you have to think of with Washington, okay, they Stanley Cup less than 10 years old, although Ovechkin is in his final season, or he just had his final season. I think maybe he does one more year, Nestor still

Nestor Aparicio 4:38
play. I mean, this isn’t Willie Mays at the end, dude,

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Dave Preston 4:42
and he’s, is he good enough to be the Caps best player? Maybe not, but he’s still good enough to be a contributing player on a contending team. Caps missed the playoffs this year, but they had 95 points, that’s the same amount of points that the Vegas Knights had in the regular season, so it was it. Wasn’t as though they were a bad team. It’s just that they were unfortunate to not be in the correct conference, because if they were in the Western Conference, they would have made the postseason like the Vegas Knights. I think the Caps have a lot of interesting young pieces, a lot of young guys who’ve played very well at Hershey the last couple of years. So, I think you’re going to see the continuing changing of the guard of this team. Unfortunately, I think some of the guys, Tom Wilson, 30 plus years old, does he have another career type season like he has the last two? Just been an amazing story,

Nestor Aparicio 5:35
right?

Dave Preston 5:35
And he’s been great late. He, like, I, you

Nestor Aparicio 5:38
know, I don’t watch it, I, but like I watched him in the beginning, I was in that locker room with you and him and Frank of it a decade ago, back when Barry was coaching the team, and my wife was beating cancer the first time, the second time, 1314, 1516, 17. In that period of time, when he came in, it was very Scott Stevensy with the brawling side of is he ever going to blossom and be anything other than a guy once stick his elbow in your ear in the corner and is going to wind up getting more penalty minutes than you really want him to have, and that’s going to wind up costing you, because he’s going to have to walk through the walk of shame back to the box after the goal gets scored when he’s sitting in the box, right? So I mean that happened in key games, big games, playoff games, where they were trying to tickle him a little bit, and play. I remember the Rangers, you know, years ago. So, I mean, the fact that he has blossomed into, is he a Hall of Fame player? I

Dave Preston 6:32
don’t think Tom Wilson’s a Hall of Fame player. If it depends, it depends on the next five years, his finish, because you look at his first seven or eight years, he was not a hall of fame type guy. He does have a Stanley Cup. He does have.. he was on the Olympic team. Just this reminds me of..

Nestor Aparicio 6:48
I saw Rick Tockett coaching all the ball now, and looking like not looking like the docket I saw 30 years ago was a player, but I mean.. but there was a toughness and a blossoming of that, that I think, if you were getting comparables, that’s where kind of where you’d have them. I mean, and maybe even like a better player than a Dale Hunter, or some of those guys that were known for that.

Dave Preston 7:11
I think he needs another, he needs another postseason run, though, for what he does as a guy. He doesn’t have the regular season numbers to justify his inclusion in the hall, but he has a team hasn’t been

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Nestor Aparicio 7:23
right, that’s been they’ve

Dave Preston 7:25
been up and down, but I think with the guys like Alexei Produce, Jacob Chicker, young guys, younger guys who will eventually, you know, be the core of this team, Tom Wilson’s got maybe three or four more years where he, you can see him being Tom Wilson, and then after that I think he has a drop off, because unless you’re Alex Avec, and you’re not skating and being awesome into your 40s, so, but it’s the Caps have been a fun team to follow in the 10, you know, 20 plus years that I’ve been in the area, there of the teams, because I’m originally from New England, the one Boston team that I could never get into were the Bruins and the Caps are the one team in Washington that I’ve really adopted more so than the others, and this goes back to, you know, way back when, when they were, you know, the most under Bruce Boudreau, they were the most exciting team on ice, couldn’t stop anybody, couldn’t advance in the playoffs, but you know, dude, I go back to Dennis

Nestor Aparicio 8:19
Maruk, you know what I mean, like, so, like, for me, and Christian, and Carpenter Carpenter, you know, so you know it’s weird that I’m divorced from it, and I don’t know enough about it. Dave Preston, Dave Presto knows more about basketball, probably anybody I know, it certainly knows more about James Bond, and we get to that in a minute. I really brought you on to talk about James Bond more. I’ve got his book.

Dave Preston 8:45
Oh, it’s a Double Oh Seven book. Oh yeah,

Nestor Aparicio 8:47
your book.

Dave Preston 8:48
No, no, no, it’s a book that I read regularly when I prep for my podcast, Bond James Bond Ranked, where we rank each and every one of the James Bond movies by using 10 different things in them, where we rank the Bond actor, his performance in the film, because the Connery in Diamonds is not the Connery in Doctor No, just like the Roger in Live and Let Die is not the Roger in The Spy Who Loved Me, the Bond girl, the Bond villain, the henchman minor villain. There is a difference, henchman, your hourly minor villain, I think you have a 401 K. The allies who helps Bond out in the field. How are the Universal people portrayed as an MQ, money penny? What have you? Penelope Smallbone from the movie Octopus, he gets a nod as well. And then the pre-credit sequence, the song, and not just the song, but the images that might be, you know, risqué. What I’m going to write

Nestor Aparicio 9:39
that down right now, because I did want to talk about the Bond Music with

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Dave Preston 9:41
you,

Nestor Aparicio 9:42
that was important to me.

Dave Preston 9:43
True, the plot, not just the how the movie hangs together with the henchman’s plot, the creativity behind it, the gadgets and vehicles, and then the locations and look of the film. Daniel Craig films do very well in the, you see where the movie is, who. Of the movies have put their money in on some of the some breathtaking shots with Daniel Craig, but when you rank each of those items one through 26 because we do count Never Say Never Again, you then add them up and it’s like a golf score, so is for instance last place was Diamonds or Forever because it had more back end, you know, rankings. Right now we’re at number eight, is the one that we’re recording, number eight or number seven that we’re recording this month, that is Skyfall. So, we’ve yet to hit on a few here and there, but it’s what’s fun about Bond is that everyone has an opinion and everyone has a different idea of what the Double Oh Seven series should be, and we have people responding to us from England, from Australia, all over the place, so it’s been kind of a cool thing. It’s Bond, James Bond ranked. It’s up on where you get your podcast, Spotify, or wherever.

Nestor Aparicio 10:49
All right, well, this could be my contribution to that day, because, like, I really did bring you on to talk Bond. But look, we have a Father’s Day thing going on. We have the, you know, Carolina Hurricanes winning a cup. My buddy Scott Kirk, and congratulations to him and Kathleen having a great time down there, and living in Raleigh. My cousin lives in Raleigh, they’re all hurricaneed up in the hurricane, and all that, you know. Did you know the hurricane can blow over to Alabama from that was the last administration? Sorry about that, but like that for me, baseball and this Oriole National thing is so insignificant, I don’t know what to call it, as to like wait for you for next week, wait for these West Coast games, because I thought this is the week, like the Father’s Day week, and the old doldrums back in the day when things were slow, and here’s the weird part, Dave, when I went on the radio here in 1991 with Kenny Albert, december 13, 1991 is my anniversary of doing this. It’ll be 35 years coming up here this December. We only had a baseball team, you, not you, Bedford, New Hampshire, you DC, you WTO, PU, Dave Preston had the Burgundy and Gold Hail team of George Preston Marshall, and then Jack Kent Cooke, and at post Joe Thys was more Jay Schradery around that, as I remember, but nonetheless it was more Mark Rippin, quite frankly, at that point. So, so when I came in, right, so first Super Bowl I went to when I retired from the Sun, January 15, 1992 I was me and John Rafalidas got in my jeep, and we drove to Minneapolis to see the Thurman Thomas helmet Super Bowl, where my buddy wore a complete, completely politically incorrect headdress with Joe Gibbs, and shouted things at Joe Gibbs that began with F-bombs, and Joe’s a mayor of prayer, a man of race cars too, right? So, nonetheless, we only had a baseball team here, and we had these throwaway winter times where we didn’t have football, and the baseball team was kind of like not really good. I mean, 9192 9391 It really didn’t get any good to like 96 So, in that period of time, it was like, let’s take calls. All right, if I was on a 1364 a 113 60, and then it was four a 115 70 when I came over here, whatever, and tell me your favorite sports movie, and I would take calls about the Bad News Bears or mr. Baseball or the Natural, or then it would move to basketball and somebody would like pull the line over on Hoosiers, or we would go to the longest yard, or I would bring up my love of North Dallas 40, or semi cuff, somebody would talk about Brian’s song, and it was the only time I even heard of leukemia before my wife had it, right? So sports movies, and like all of that, so I would do all of that, like around the sports movie thing. So I’ve done that, dude. Every scene in Major League, I’ve done, I’ve done Hide Behind the Lockers, I’ve done Joe Boo’s Rum, I’ve got, I’ve done it all. And with you over the last 15 years, every time I have you on, there’s some Knick Knack reference or some scara manga reference, or some.. there’s always a reference to Brit Eklund, especially when Slim Jim Phantom comes on the program, or any month where I see Rod Stewart, and I saw him earlier this month. So, my favorite James Bond movie is The Man with the Golden Gun, and you know this, and we have never, you’ve barked at me, you’ve taken the high robe with me, you scolded me about this not being the best of the Cubby Broccoli series in the cinema and the Ian Fleming, and it was a flimsy this and a flimsy that, and Christopher Lee wasn’t a good enough villain, and Maude Adams wasn’t hot enough as the dead woman, and it didn’t have enough gadgetry, and it had like the midget villain who went on to become like

Dave Preston 14:56
tattoo, yeah,

Nestor Aparicio 14:57
tattoo, you know what I mean, so it had it. JW Peppa, so I wore this shirt from Farron and Dermer. Thank you, Zach. I thought it was more Oriole, but I thought was Oriole Hawaiian, but it is a little bit. We’re gonna call the police, you wanted them police. So, nonetheless, I am, I’m a man with the golden gun guy for a lot of reasons, and I’ll break mine down, but here’s what I want you to do. I want you to be Dave Preston, not the guy from Bedford, whose sister has Super Bowl rings, not the neighbor of my mother-in-law for many years in Bedford, New Hampshire, not the WTO P Sports Radio Maven, or the voter on the AP top basketball, football, and all that, and not even like the server who brought me delicious steaks and big baked potatoes and asparagus and delightful soups and things like that in your day, but I just want you to be James Bond podcast guy, okay? Whatever, give me, give me the name of your Bond cast, is what it’s called,

Dave Preston 15:58
Bond James Bond ranked,

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Nestor Aparicio 16:00
okay?

Dave Preston 16:00
Yeah, so go

Nestor Aparicio 16:03
ahead and bag on it, go bag on my movie, just freaking bag on it, because we’re gonna go nose to nose on this when you start kissing the ass of Sean Connery or something like that, but nonetheless, go ahead,

Dave Preston 16:15
I’m gonna, I’m gonna lead off by saying there’s no, I mean, even Bond movies kind of like pizza. I’ve been told that even the ones that aren’t awesome, there’s still some value. There’s still like sex and

Nestor Aparicio 16:27
pizza. Oh, yes, I got it

Dave Preston 16:28
exactly. Here’s now, and it has

Nestor Aparicio 16:32
been said weed anywhere but Mexico. But go ahead.

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Dave Preston 16:35
Yes. Now, what on what’s unfortunate with the man with the golden gum was that it came out right after it came out a year after Live and Let Die, the Bond movies after the first four. It was always a two-year production schedule when you look at it through the end of the Timothy Dalton era. Was there anything

Nestor Aparicio 16:53
else movie wise that was franchised quite like it? Because I mean I was pulling 68 this was my first Bond movie. Okay, and I literally went to it at the Highway Movie Theater, which is now a wise movie, Wise Market in Middlesex, Middle River. It’s literally Middlesex, that’s.. I’m not even making that up. Middle seems good, not even bad. It’s Middlesex. It is not Essex, Middlesex, and my father lived in these roach-infested apartments behind there. They were called River Something, something, and the Highway Movie Theater. When I was five years old, and it was very grand to me, like I had never really been to the movies. My parents took me to, like, a jungle book kind of thing over at the Carlton when I was a little boy, but my first movie I ever wanted to see was this movie, and find my father, my Hispanic father, my Aparicio father broke down and finally took me one Friday night because I begged him to take me, and he took me to see it in kind of an empty theater, and I’m five years old watching Lulu, watching Knick Knack, watching Golden Guns, watching Beautiful Women. I think the Brit Eklund thing just scarred me, like literally ruined

Dave Preston 18:10
you, yeah,

Nestor Aparicio 18:11
for life. But, like, so I’ve.. that’s my association, and that became my fascination with Moonraker, the spy who loved me. Those, you know, that that era, and then my dear, dear friend Leon Rata Jack, that I grew up with, when cassettes happened, I was the first one in the neighborhood with a VCR. My dad, 1980 during the Olympics, the Do You Believe in Miracles game was one of the first things my father captured. So, in February 1980 we had a VCR. A lot of people had a beta because beta was more popular for five minutes, but we had a VCR with the tapes, and once we got cable television and the TBS, you could tape the movies, right?

Dave Preston 18:58
Right,

Nestor Aparicio 18:59
Leon would tape them for us, and we would sit and watch them edited. Right, I mean, a lot of it was edited with women, and different – even the songs were edited, the openings, as you pointed out. But, like, my fascination with Bond began with the man with the golden gun, so therefore it is my favorite Bond movie, and that would be.. but, like, you’re gonna trash it. I know you are. Go ahead, trash.

Dave Preston 19:22
It’s not the best Bond movie. It’s unfortunately, it was when the series had kind of lost its way. Tom Mankiewicz wrote that, as well as A Live and Let Die and Diamonds Are Forever. And if you look at those three movies, each one kind of starts with some strengths and then kind of dissipates. Britt Eklund, she’s beautiful to look at, but she plays a very incapable field agent, like she’s just.. she’s not smart at all, and you’re just.. she does a lot of stupid, idiotic things. So, at no point during the film do you believe that she’s a capable field agent. I really like Maude Adams in this film, I. I think the whole let’s, at the time, the Bond series was more a thermometer than a thermostat. If you look at the 60s Bond films, they were trend-setting films. 70s films, you had, oh, we’re going to do Blaxploitation for Live and Let Die, oh, we’re going to do Space for Moonraker, oh, we’re going to have Kung Fu scenes. In, I remember the

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Nestor Aparicio 20:21
first time I ever saw a Sony logo,

Dave Preston 20:24
right, was

Nestor Aparicio 20:24
in Moon Ranker on that sexy boat, you remember that out in the water,

Dave Preston 20:28
yes, the right boy, yeah, right, yeah, yeah, but that was

Nestor Aparicio 20:33
so 1978 1979 when it was time to get a VCR, Sony, and I just mentioned Betamax? Did not like literally the Bond movie was a product placement thing in that era, right?

Dave Preston 20:49
Bond movies always been about product placements. If you look at the very first movie, Dr. No, Bond gets into a fight with Coral, the fisherman who winds up getting blown up by the dragon. When they get to Dr. Nose, Lair, they get into a fight in this room, and they’re kicking around boxes, and those boxes are red stripe lager, so Jamaican for beer. So, the very.. I mean, they’ve been into product placement with that, the Aston Martin cars, the, you know, various and sundry other things. And so, I mean, it’s something that just happens, and it’s something that you almost go out of your way to look for it. Okay, what are they going to do here or there? Another thing about the gosh, the man with the golden gun, Roger Moore, is yet to really find his way as Double Oh Seven. I think he matures in the role in The Spy Who Loved Me. I think in the first two films he’s really kind of, just he’s getting comfortable in those clothes, in those shoes. If you look at, he wasn’t trying to

Nestor Aparicio 21:49
be Connery, though. Was no, he

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Dave Preston 21:50
wasn’t. No, he wasn’t. In fact, what’s not, what’s nice about any more than Michael

Nestor Aparicio 21:55
Keaton was trying to be, you know, Adam West. Yeah, right. So

Dave Preston 21:58
I think what they didn’t live and let die, they wrote for basically somebody. They didn’t write for more because he hadn’t gotten the role when they wrote the script. They tried to tailor it to him a little bit more, but there are some scenes where he gets rough with Maude Adams, and you just, you can’t imagine Roger Moore slapping anyone, let alone, you know, a pretty girl. It’s not his style. He’s Roger Moore was always the finesse bond, whereas Connery was the physical bond. It’s imagine a fullback to a halfback. Roger Moore was Lenny Moore, as it were. Connery was more.. what do we.. what.. Norm Balayak, you know? You know, forgive me if I butcher the name..

Nestor Aparicio 22:38
Boulash,

Dave Preston 22:39
Boulash. Okay, yeah, cuz I. I only read it, never, never heard it, because he retired before my time, but that’s that’s what I mean, so you get one was Lytle Mitchell, one was Roosevelt Leaks, and it took a while for Cubby Broccoli to capture Roger Moore’s Bond, effectively didn’t happen in the first two films, also this was the last film produced by Harry, co-produced by Harry Saltzman. Saltzman had money issues, he and Broccoli were not getting along at that time, so that added another cloud to the production. I think the fact that it came out of Europe after Live and Let Die made it feel rushed. It doesn’t. There’s the, there’s not a lot of great chase scenes, in my opinion. There’s the great stunt that’s then underwhelmed by that stupid slide whistle that just, oh God, it’s a great, it’s a fantastic stunt when the car does the corkscrew. In fact, that that very car, or model of that car, was at the Spy Museum a few years ago when they did bonded motion, so they’ve done a lot. That exhibit is now no longer, but we, you had a chance to see a car from every single Double Oh Seven, or a vehicle at least, because you had the, you had a sub that the bathos sub from Specter in Diamonds Are Forever, but what’s what’s under what’s unfortunate about the man with the Golden Gun is that you, you expect this super dual, and instead it’s just hijinks and shenanigans, where they’re hiding behind trees at the end, and the fun house kind of, it’s when you’re five years old, it’s the coolest thing, but if you’re 15, if you’re 20 years old, you’re like, okay, yeah, I kind of get it, and that’s why that it’s, it’s underwhelming. It’s one of the lesser, more films in my opinion. It’s not as I think A Fe to a Kill is my least favorite. Moonraker and Golden Gun are kind of in the mix. Moonraker, I like a little bit more because the stunts are more spectacular. I think also I mentioned that Bond had lost his way, and he came spy, you loved me came back to the old big bond. This was not a big bond, just like Live and Let Die was really not a big bond, even though you had some great chases and this and that and the other thing, but you didn’t have the big sets, and I think you had the Solex Agitator set that was basically you had five minutes with, you needed to. Make that a central part of the film, so there, there are a lot of things here and there that just didn’t work for me, and that’s why, that’s why the man with the golden gun is lower on my rankings of the Bond films. When you look at individual things, hated the song, I know the man with the golden gun, love is required whenever he’s hired, he comes just before the kill, that I think they heard Paul McCartney do Live and Let Die, which is off the charts. Yeah, I mean, you’re

Nestor Aparicio 25:28
not gonna produce Live and Let Dies a second this month I’ve mentioned Live and Let Die on the air, so yes,

Dave Preston 25:34
but I think the producer said, hey, wow, this guy can come in, he can put together a song, it can have an up-tempo thing, rocker, you say the title, anybody can do it. No, you can’t. That’s why, that’s why Paul’s special. That’s why you look at the great Bond songs, and there’s there’s a chasm between that and even the rank and file Bond songs. This is one of the lower tier ones, even though I find it amusing from time to time. His ally in Bangkok, Lieutenant Hip is massively incompetent, so you know it’s, it’s amazing that Double Oh Seven survives this mission, because he’s got Good Knight, who gets locked in a, you know, car trunk, and you know, has, you know, just, just, gosh, just doesn’t, you know, show any signs of being an intelligent field agent, then you got Lieutenant Hip, who is in his own way just as bad, and then you’ve got scenes that are stupidly played for laps, they, they didn’t need to bring back JW Pepper, you don’t

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Nestor Aparicio 26:32
like JW Pepper, I knew you wouldn’t like JW Pepper,

Dave Preston 26:36
Clifton James was awesome, you talk about basically a sports movies, Clifton James was awesome as Charlie Comiskey in Eight Man Out, as the, as the tough ass of owner. Yeah, he was fact. We were talking about movies earlier today. We were talking about Eight Men Out. My favorite baseball movie is still The Naked Gun. My favorite basketball movie is still Teen Wolf. And I’ll go to the go to Naked Gun is not a baseball movie, but go ahead. But that’s, you’ve got, actually, you could say that The Naked Gun is a James Bond movie, because folks, if you wonder why I don’t

Nestor Aparicio 27:07
do these segments, it’s because of things like this. Oh, come on, what? It’s Naked Guns, not a baseball movie,

Dave Preston 27:14
it’s also to say

Nestor Aparicio 27:15
The Natural, you don’t have to say Sandline, you know, you could go off on a tangent, and I mean, I’m a Bad news bears guy, and I’m a major league guy, right. Even though Major League Two was filmed right here, and Ray Bachman has a very small cameo, and I knew some of the paid actors in it, actually, for Baltimore. But nonetheless, we’re doing Bond Cinema with Bon Nick WTO P, not the sports director, but the sports guy in the morning, and the updates, and and the field reporter, and an AP voter, and a college football insider, and basketball, but I think a bond with you, and it’s, it’s summer, the Nationals are playing the Orioles, and who cares, and baseball’s going on strike anyway, before either one of these teams winning the World Series, capitals are no good. I was going to haze the Wizards a little bit, but I don’t even get to that. I just, for everything nasty that you just said, and I felt like you were more fiscal than Ebert there, even though I mean you were not very nice to, as you were not very nice to Britt Eckler. I’m going to tell you right now,

Dave Preston 28:18
well, it’s not her fault. I mean, I think a lot of it is the script writing, because you look at Tom Mankowitz, who wrote that film, he also wrote forever, he has passed away, I believe, blame it

Nestor Aparicio 28:27
on him. Okay, he also

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Dave Preston 28:29
came up with Heart to Heart, so he’s capable of writing and creating intelligent female characters, because Jennifer Hot was absolutely fantastic, actually, she’s gorgeous in the credits, and me, Max, I look after him, which ain’t easy, because when they met, it was murder. Were you a heart to heart guy? I

Nestor Aparicio 28:48
remember that. I remember all that. Yes. Oh God, my dad loved early

Dave Preston 28:52
80s TV shows where they had exposition out in the titles, where it’s like we got to tell you what the story’s about real quick, and, and you know, you know, my dad only

Nestor Aparicio 29:02
watched television like that when sports wasn’t on,

Dave Preston 29:05
yeah,

Nestor Aparicio 29:06
you know, so it was, you know, usually a tough winter night, my dad was looking through reruns or something like that, you know what I mean,

Dave Preston 29:14
but what’s unfortunate, so you look at Tiffany Case, who, if you, the first five three or four scenes, Jill St. John is in that movie. She’s smart, she’s sharp, she’s awesome. She is more than capable of holding her own with Bond. And then the last five scenes, she’s an absolute idiot. And it’s not the actress, it’s how she was written. And so I think that there, the Bond series is a collaborative effort on so many ways, so many levels, from production, Ken Adam, the genius who drew, who was who did all of the sets from Fort Knox to the volcano, sort of a golden

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Nestor Aparicio 29:51
age of cinema in the 60s and 70s, and and the original question I asked was, there anything else like that that was a. On, I mean, I know they wanted to make a Jaws too, and a Godfather too, and an Exorcist too, and like all that, but going back into the late 50s and early 60s, was Disney spinning out anything that was a one character like Indiana Jones game later. I’m just trying to think, was there anything like Bond at

Dave Preston 30:18
all? They tried, in fact, Harry Saltzman, the guy who produced the Bond films, came up with a character who was like the antithesis of Bond. He wasn’t suave, he was a middle-class guy, wore glasses. Michael Caine, name the character was Harry Palmer. He did three or four movies in the 60s, but nothing beyond that. You had James Coburn as our man Flint, I think, did two or three films. You had a couple of those, and as far as sequels, Planet of the Apes turned out a bunch of films, you know, each one was progressively worse. You had Death Wish at the time that did, again, did five movies, that each one was progressively worse, but no series, in my opinion, like the Bond films that, you know, the man with the golden gum was the ninth film in the series, and we’ve had 2526 if you count Never See Ever Again, 27 if you count the original Casino Royale. Nothing is compared to the stand. It was also had some

Nestor Aparicio 31:13
kitschy, cheeky humor that maybe Connery wouldn’t have been a part of, right? I mean, the series took a departure in the 70s, that was all part of disco, groovy, Batman, you know, that’s just the way the early 70s looked, everything looked different than 1965 I think, right, yeah,

Dave Preston 31:32
the series has always taken ebbs and flows, and I think what’s it’s always kind of been reactive of the previous film, whereas you had Moonraker, that was just out of this world, crazy stuff, gadgets, you know, space, you know, just not realistic, and so on, so many levels. Then they dialed it down, and they did For Your Eyes Only, which was more of a Cold War caper. You had, you did, You Only Live Twice, which was again similar film, Out of This World, All This That, Honor Majesty’s Secret Service, for other reasons too, but was more sticking to the Fleming script, more serious Thunder Ball was more sticky, it was more of a serious film than Goldfinger, Goldfinger was more of a flashy film than From Rush with Love, whereas The Spy Who Loved Me was Big Bond, as and I think when you look at, if I were to think of four Bond films that were pivotal in the series, outside of Dr. No, Spy Who Loved Me is one of them, Golden Eyes another, Casino Royale’s another, and I would say maybe Goldfinger is the fourth, because each one really, the Spy Who Loved Me salvaged the series, because The Man with the Golden Gum limped at the box office, limped with the critics, and there was a danger of can they do these movies without Sean Connery, because they were still, they, they’re the highest grossing film was Thunderball. It declined with You Only Live Twice, declined again with Majesties, had a bit of a spike with Diamonds, but Live and Let Die and The Man with a golden gun weren’t huge box office successes.

Nestor Aparicio 33:04
Dave Preston is here, he knows everything about James Bond, which is why I brought him on, because you know I did sports movies for a long time, and he knows a lot about sports, and we’ll get back to Wizards and Nationals and Orioles and all that stuff. So, what is when you do this very, very serious dive on Bond that is more serious than, let’s say, my crush on Brit Eckland, or just I loved Roger Moore, and I’ve the story about Roger Moore running into the little boy in the airport, playing the role of Bond, is just, if you don’t know that, I’ve shared it several times, it’s Neto Torpedo, Roger Moore, I shared the same birthday too, which I, that was never part of my affinity for him, but it, but Roger Moore, if Roger Moore walked in the door right now, I know that would be a stretch, but if he did, that would be a big deal for me, you know what I mean. And I’ve interviewed a lot of people, but Roger Moore, to me, is James Bond. I always thought of Sean Connery as the fake James Bond, and I always used to always kid my friend Lee and all of his other nerd buddies that love the Bond movies that we would hang out with back in the day, but and in full, and my wife’s gonna make fun of me when she sees this in general, she thinks it’s funny that I know a guy from her hometown, but

Dave Preston 34:13
now does she share a birthday with Justin Hayward, or is that you that shares it’s me with Justin

Nestor Aparicio 34:18
Hayward, she’s got Craigswood, yeah, hey,

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Dave Preston 34:20
that’s that, that’s a great trifecta. No, no,

Nestor Aparicio 34:23
no. The best birthday, listen, the best october 14 birthday, he’s in Stacy Keebler. It isn’t, I mean, I can give you a bunch of different people, but John Wooden,

Dave Preston 34:35
okay, yeah, and I had the same

Nestor Aparicio 34:36
birthday, and on his 92nd birthday, something like that. He called into my national show, and this is back at the turn of the century. We set it up, so he called in on our birthday.

Dave Preston 34:49
Oh, wow,

Nestor Aparicio 34:49
to do the show with me, and he called to wish me happy birthday, and I wished him happy birthday, and I talked to him for 15 minutes, and my producers didn’t make a copy. Of the tape, it is the in your radio guy, Dave Preston of WTO, it is without question,

Dave Preston 35:08
it is the

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Nestor Aparicio 35:09
missing holy grail, it’s the missing, it’s the thing that of all the things that got away, you know, John Wooden, you know, so

Dave Preston 35:19
you know how you get your spirits up by buying a super awesome bracket cup. No, no, no. What’s gonna get my spirits

Nestor Aparicio 35:25
up as a spirit radio when the fellows from Toronto come down to Rock and Hall of Famers, bring that action to DC and Philly and other things. But listen, as far as getting my rocks off on sports or hockey, I haven’t watched the hockey game since I walked out of the T-Mobile Arena in Vegas with the Cup, literally, since Tony Robbins and Novetskin walked off the bench with me and Trots, and I walked out of the building with Trots that night. I haven’t, I haven’t been to a hockey, and I’m watched hockey, which is why I don’t know whether Wilson’s Hall of Famer nudge. I’m glad you told me, but I don’t see movies very often either. My wife, that’s what I’m saying, if she were here, she’d make fun of me for talking movies with you, because I tried to do a movie night with my kid, my kid and his wife, and when we lived downtown, we were going to do like a whole big thing on Wednesdays, or whatever, before Covid, even any of that, right? And this would be the film I would subject within the first 10, like if I had 10 movies, and you’re gonna come over, and I’d say, “Have you seen this one? And some people say, “May you know, maybe it’s a Bond movie, nobody cares about, right? Like, to your point, right? And some people don’t like Bond movies, or they saw him a bunch. I have not seen this movie in 20 years.

Dave Preston 36:36
Oh, wow.

Nestor Aparicio 36:37
Okay, I haven’t seen a Bond movie. I went to the Halle Berry movie in the theater, Timothy Dalton, maybe you know what I mean.

Dave Preston 36:46
Yeah,

Nestor Aparicio 36:46
so you know, like, so I.. there was a set the ski chase movie

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Dave Preston 36:52
that was the Die Another Day. There was.. he, I think he was on there, I think he was wind surfing or something. I went to a really, really lousy

Nestor Aparicio 37:00
one, and I swore it off right around the time I swore off movies, which is around 20 years. I don’t go to movies much at all. I really

Dave Preston 37:07
was a tough one to stomach. Yeah, they re there was a reason why they waited four years to do a new one with the new actor. They, it got too silly. Die Another Day, that was maybe the

Nestor Aparicio 37:18
really awful one. Okay, okay, okay. Bad song

Dave Preston 37:20
too by Madonna.

Nestor Aparicio 37:22
There was just.. it was just bad. And I.. so I don’t give time to movies much. I barely give time to sports at this point. People know what I.. the Orioles and the Ravens.. I, they’re my level of expertise, but I don’t sit.. I didn’t watch a minute of the NBA finals, I didn’t watch a dribble of March Madness. I’m not bragging about it, I’m just saying, like, I’m 58 years old, and what I give my time to is going to be the quality of the rest of my life, and I’m not going to give it to Ted Effing Leon’s or any of his brands, or maybe not even in his arena, other than Rush. If he does what Dolan does and starts facial recognizing me for telling the truth about him, lying to the people of Baltimore about winning a Stanley Cup and bringing it, then I maybe he can lock me out of his building, but that’s kind of how I feel about some of these billionaires and some of these people who are wrecking the country and wrecking the world and all that, but there is a point in my life where the art of things like film and a cinema room and getting a big TV and watching a film, this I would love to go back and watch this with you and Alan McCallum, you know, Alan, Alan loves film, and Max Weiss is like an incredible film critic, and they are my Cisco Linnie group. Once every year or two, like around Oscars, sometimes they’ll come on together and goof with me, we’ll have popcorn to do all that, and talk about movies I should see that I never will. For the audience, of course, we, the three of us, decided, like collectively decided on the show, that we should watch Shampoo.

Dave Preston 38:51
Oh, that is a hell of a movie. I’ve seen, I, it’s been a while since I’ve seen that. Have you seen it before?

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Nestor Aparicio 38:57
Alan bought it on some sort of Blu-ray thing in his man cave basement over by Milford Mill locker, and Max and I brought crab cakes, and we had a three-person cinematic Hootenanny in Alan’s basement. This was last spring, a year, year and a half ago, and my wife wasn’t even involved, so the three of us got together in his basement, ate crab cakes, delicious, as I remember the crab queen, and watched shampoo, like in a basement on a movie. So to me, that’s the way I would do it, right? You know what I mean? I would find a little cinematic experience where you and I can go and sit and watch the man with the golden gun, and like, really watch it, and then I’ll let you pick the Bond movie you think that I need to see, and one that you haven’t seen, in, you know, what I mean, like, you know them all really well, right? So, like, what, what would the movie be if I came over to, like, and brought this? What would you put on?

Dave Preston 39:58
I haven’t seen Thunderball in a while. I’d want to see that you

Nestor Aparicio 40:01
think that that’s a top three or number one.

Dave Preston 40:03
I think I think it’s I think it’s top five. I mean, it’s a nice representative. I think it’s underrated because you, it’s not as good as Goldfinger in many aspects, and so it pales in comparison to Goldfinger that comes right before it. I wonder, Thunder Ball,

Nestor Aparicio 40:20
that had a submarine,

Dave Preston 40:22
there was underwater school,

Nestor Aparicio 40:24
underwater, right,

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Dave Preston 40:25
exactly.

Nestor Aparicio 40:26
And the bad guy was,

Dave Preston 40:28
gosh, Emilio Largo, he had an eye patch,

Nestor Aparicio 40:31
right. Okay, all right. Blowfield, no,

Dave Preston 40:34
Blofeld is in the movie, but he’s unseen, right? Okay,

Nestor Aparicio 40:38
okay, go ahead, okay, get

Dave Preston 40:39
to reveal himself. One of the things we do, Nestor, with our podcast, Bond James, Bond ranked two things that you might find interesting. One, we after we rate the song, and what have you, we say because Madonna had a cameo as a fencing instructor and die another day. We say, what if there was a rule that the singer of the Bond theme had to be in the movie in a certain cameo? What, where would they fit in this movie from Tom Jones, who sings Thunderball? He would be like a snorkeling instructor, wearing like the tightest bleeping swimsuit, really obnoxious. Duran Duran would be French tourists in In A View to a Kill.

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Nestor Aparicio 41:18
Lulu would have been the chick with the belly button, that yes, yes, right, she

Dave Preston 41:24
would have been in the club, yes, she would have been the, or she was at the bottoms up club, bottoms

Nestor Aparicio 41:28
up club, where I’ve been, I guess I’ve been to Lan Kwai Fong in Hong Kong,

Dave Preston 41:33
she would do that, and then the other one, the other, the other question, and it’s in there again, no, no right or wrong answers, unless they’re really bad, which I throw out from time to time, but the other one is I have friends who used to hold bond fests, where we would watch three movies in a row, and you’d hang out, so three, that’s a

Nestor Aparicio 41:50
lot, I mean, two would be good for me, one would be one with some conversation and some wine, and you know, like that, to me that would be perfect, one movie dinner,

Dave Preston 42:01
yeah,

Nestor Aparicio 42:02
yeah. I don’t, I don’t need to do it, yeah,

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Dave Preston 42:05
you know. But the question is, like, with each of the movies that we rank, it’s like, okay, which movie would you pair with this? Like, for instance, you could put The Spy Who Loved Me with You Only Live Twice, because they’re very similar in theme, or you could do I Want to, if I’m watching Live and Let Die, I want to see A View to a Kill to catch Roger’s first and last films. If I watch what is it, License to Kill, I want to check out maybe one of the Daniel Craig films, because of the violence, or this, that, the other thing, or Bond Goes Rogue. So again, it’s all it one of the that’s something that we do in each of the podcasts at the very end where it’s like which two which film would you pair with the film that we’ve just rated so it’s kind of it’s a fun thing the guy that I co-hosted with Brian Courson loves he loves the Orioles he loves crab cakes he also loves James Bond too so we talk a little bit about James Bond, and then you know he enjoys the Orioles and crab cakes on his own time.

Nestor Aparicio 43:05
I feel like a total jerk, because I took a picture in front of the Bottoms Up Club in Hong Kong when I was there in oh 607, and I can’t find it. I found a picture of me and my wife in front of Hong Kong, but Nike, I can’t find.. I’m going to send you a picture of me in front of the bottoms up, I have to do that for sure. Dave Preston is my guest. He usually does sports, but he does this crazy Bond podcast, and hope anybody loves James Bond can go and follow, and you know, because you bagged on the movie like, like a very, very mean version of 1973 74 Gene Siskel trying to make his way in Chicago. I’m going to read this to you from the, from the insert in the, in the, in the D. Can’t

Dave Preston 43:47
wait, because they’re completely objective.

Nestor Aparicio 43:51
Those elements, the cutting edge gadgetry, gadget tree, the beautiful women, and the astonishing action sequences lend excitement and intrigue to a story that, while timeless, had special relevance to audiences in the mid 1970s Just as Soviet decoding machines was a precious commodity in the Cold War era. Oh boy, this is bad. Okay, I can’t. I can’t continue. Dave Preston is here. The man with the golden gun is still there. Knick Knack is still there for you. The fun room is still there for you. If you kill him, oh, this be mine, Dave Preston. So we’re not going to do a movie night. Should we do this or no? What do you think

Dave Preston 44:35
we should? I think we should at some point in time this summer. When’s the last time

Nestor Aparicio 44:38
you saw the man with the golden gun?

Dave Preston 44:40
Got I the first time I saw it was on ABC TV, because that was when ABC had the rights to Sunday night movie, Monday Night Movies. Yeah, and I, when I was 10 years old, I thought it was pretty cool. And then I saw the other ones, and I was like, oh, these, this one’s a little bit better, this one’s kind of silly, this one. Is gosh,

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Nestor Aparicio 45:02
by the way,

Dave Preston 45:03
I’m 56 So, what’s

Nestor Aparicio 45:05
it? So, what was the first one you saw?

Dave Preston 45:07
First one I saw, in first one I saw in the theater was actually because at the time it’s like, oh, you can’t go watch Bond. First one I saw in the theater was The Living Daylights. I had my grandparents had HBO, so I saw Octopussy when it was on HBO, like two or three times, you know, a day, way back when, in the early 80s. I did see Doctor No and the man with the Golden Gun. Those were the first ones that I remember seeing on on TV. Yeah, once

Nestor Aparicio 45:38
you got HBO, it kind of, like, you know, once in a while things would pop up, right?

Dave Preston 45:42
Yeah, true. And then, of course, I saw Goldfinger. We, the Goldfinger was the first video cassette that we rentaled, or that we rented. And then after that, it’s like there was a year where I just, I crushed them, at you know, for much with love, Thunder Ball, you know, you run through all of them, Utter Majesty’s Secret Service. I saw and thought of, I went into it thinking, okay, this, it’s not even Connery, it’s not more, it’s, you know, what is this film, and was amazed at how well Pam Shriver thought, by the way, but

Nestor Aparicio 46:12
that’s just an insightful, no, I mean, well, it’s expensive,

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Dave Preston 46:14
well, and along those lines, I hear that she’s of comfort to the to George Lazy at this point in time, all these years later, so good for her. She’s got a wonderful heart, and I know that

Nestor Aparicio 46:27
wasn’t good,

Dave Preston 46:28
despite things that were done. She, nobody loves

Nestor Aparicio 46:32
Pam more than me, and nobody loved me more than Pam.

Dave Preston 46:35
No, no, just the best. But Pam

Nestor Aparicio 46:37
Shriver married into the Bond series, I know it

Dave Preston 46:40
was, it was my dream. Two of my dreams as a Morton’s waiter way back when in Reston, when we opened up, was to one have Al Pacino seating in my section, so I could say, ‘Oh, try the veal, it’s the best in the city, or to do whatever, take the order from Lazenby and Pam Shriver. If anybody

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Nestor Aparicio 47:00
wonders why I have Preston on a show, this right here, that was it, that was it. It took me 48 minutes, but like I knew you were going to make it worthwhile. Yeah, the Pacino thing, come on, man, that’s great. Oh

Dave Preston 47:10
yeah, and then with Lazenby to say, oh, this never happened to the other fellow, and riff off of that. So, okay, so I mean, I, and over the years I’ve read the novels, I’ve really gotten into the series, I think, and which novels

Nestor Aparicio 47:25
the most like the movie

Dave Preston 47:27
from Russia with Love and Honor Majesty’s Secret Service, the adaptation, they were the closest close, because I was always close as well,

Nestor Aparicio 47:34
the Golden Guy never read the book, yeah, I owned it, never read it, because that’s the way you were when you’re a kid, that it was way different, you know, that they were all very different.

Dave Preston 47:42
They, and what’s interesting is that some of the, like, Live and Let Die, the book scenes from Live, Let Die show up in other movies, like there’s the scene in For Your Eyes Only, where they pull, they, they’re the ship, the boat is basically calling Roger Moore. Oh, fantastic. Gosh, oh, Sheena, bring it in. Sheena, Roger, and Molina are getting hauled in the water. That actually happened in Live and Let Die, the book. Felix Leiter gets chewed up in Live and Let Die. The book doesn’t happen until License to Kill. So, you’ll see different things happen in different movies that happen in different books. As a kid, as a fifth, as a 14, 1516, year old who didn’t have a license was never getting the girl, James Bond, just seemed like a cool dude who always beat the bad guys for the most part. In one movie, you get in from Russia with Love, in the book he does get kicked by Rosa Club and passes out at the end, and you don’t know if he lives or dies, whereas in the movie it happens differently, but it’s I was a big Bond fan as a kid, read the books, enjoyed the films, and it’s, it’s a great community, because a lot of people have been into Bond in different times, and everyone’s got a different vision of what they want Bond to be, and what they enjoy the most about them, and what they look for in a Bond film, and that’s kind of what the podcast Bond James Bond ranked is about. How do each of the major points hit with us, and what do we like about the film in general, too?

Nestor Aparicio 49:12
He is Dave Preston. I’m trying to find the picture the night that I dressed up. I went to a James Bond party, believe it or not.

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Dave Preston 49:18
Awesome,

Nestor Aparicio 49:19
that was hosted by Terrell Suggs.

Dave Preston 49:21
Okay,

Nestor Aparicio 49:22
at the Hyatt, it would have been good. It had not been a night before a football game, but I never saw him, because I left at 1o’clock and he wasn’t there yet. It was one of those kind of parties. Oh, but it was this big white party. I got invited, and I dressed like James Bond, and there were two girls that were gold. They were gold head to toe, and I have a picture of them, and I’m doing the bond. I’m gonna have a good time when I find this link wife, because I have some bond, you know, stuff going on here. I would just say this to you before we leave, because I don’t know, we’re always going to talk about bond, but the next time we get together, you’re going to want to talk about college football or. Heisman, you’re going to want to talk about the N I L or the baseball strike, or we’re going to be talking about the capital’s life after a veteran, or with him, or I’ll be bagging on Leon’s further, because I’ll probably do that the rest of my life, because I don’t like being lied to by billionaires and their Fredo kids, but nonetheless, there’s a little movie reference there for, yeah,

Dave Preston 50:19
oh yeah, my favorite Bond

Nestor Aparicio 50:21
song is not McCartney, it’s not Lulu, it’s not A View to a Kill with Duran Duran, it’s not even Sheena Easton, although I had not thought about that song. I mean, what a great song that is. It does, yeah,

Dave Preston 50:41
it works. Yeah, you mentioned it.

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Nestor Aparicio 50:42
My favorite Bond song, Carly Simon, dude. Okay,

Dave Preston 50:48
nobody does it better. Nobody does it better stand it. And that, I mean, as

Nestor Aparicio 50:52
good as you, baby, you’re the best. Come on, man. What’s great somehow you found? Come on, yeah, yeah. by the way, I hung out with her daughter Sally at a golf tournament when I was syndicated. One of the coolest human beings ever, Sally Taylor’s daughter of James Taylor. I don’t know the brother, I only know her. But

Dave Preston 51:18
tempting, how tempting is it when you’re hanging out with Carly Simon’s daughter to not throw just cash, just under the cuff references to different songs. Here’s what happened. Anticipation,

Nestor Aparicio 51:30
she did my show.

Dave Preston 51:31
Okay,

Nestor Aparicio 51:32
okay. So we’re at a golf tournament that was a hockey tournament, it was for Sean Podine. You can look this up, he did this for many, many years in Rochester, Minnesota, which is the home of the Mayo Clinic, right? So we went up to Rochester and did this thing on a golf cartry club with all the.. they had just won the Stanley Cup with the Avalanche, all right? And the cup wasn’t there, but there was.. it could have been.. they had just won the cup, it wasn’t his day with the cup, but we were kind of thinking maybe, but it wasn’t.. but there were a lot of celebrities. There were the woman who starred in the movie was Steve Martin, who married the country buddy of Peyton Manning, Kimberly Williams.

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Dave Preston 52:14
Oh, Kimberly Williams, yeah, she

Nestor Aparicio 52:15
was there. So there were celebrities, you know, who was there was the greatest guy ever, Joey McIntyre. Oh, kids on the block. So, what happened? Every

Dave Preston 52:25
boy band had to have a Joey in it. Joey

Nestor Aparicio 52:28
McIntyre, Sally Taylor, and I were our own little mafia. We were the three that didn’t know anybody else and fell in at the party and hung out all night because we liked each other and it was fun, and we just had fun. They were just nice people, yeah. As opposed to Kimberly Williams, not so nice. Great. Okay,

Dave Preston 52:47
but before we move on, great new kids on the block moment for me a few years ago. Yes, Maryland Press Preview, and they’re playing on a Friday night, and Mike Locksley, head coach, is like, yeah, they got us playing on another Friday night. I guess this is our second Friday night of the season, and we’ve been.. we played two last year, I guess. It’s still.. we’re, we’re the new kids on the block, and they’re treating us like the new kids on the block. And he says that, and they questions Gene Wong of the Washington Post at the time, asks him a question. I jump in and I say, ‘Hey, you know about this new kids on the Block thing, Talea Tonga, Vilola. It seems like this kid has the right stuff as he’s going step by step, and I dropped multiple New Kids on the Block song titles. Yeah, and Locks looked at me like I was from Mars. He didn’t, he didn’t understand.

Nestor Aparicio 53:37
Get

Dave Preston 53:38
it? I, because I think he’s more of a new edition guy, I should have cooled it now, should have gone

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Nestor Aparicio 53:45
with every little step you take, like something like that, right? I got you, I got you, I got you. All right, yeah,

Dave Preston 53:50
we had another one last year where Dustin, the SID, who’s for football, did you roam him the right way? Oh,

Nestor Aparicio 54:01
pretty good. That’s pretty good, Dave. Come on.

Dave Preston 54:04
Last year, the SID was going to see Oasis, like after the opener, and so basically I show up and we do a thing at WTO P called T-shirt Tuesday during the summer. It’s just a thing that we do for morale at the station. So, I’ve got my Oasis concert T-shirt from like 20 years ago that I’m wearing semi in tatters, the faces are kind of, you know, you can’t see the guys as much. So my question was, hey coach, some might say that sunshine follows thunder, and then I asked him a question, and then I, it was again before we slide away, give it all you got, and multiple, multiple Oasis song references, and Dustin appreciated it. Coach Loxley was just answering the question as though it was a question, so.. but yeah, so I just put

Nestor Aparicio 54:49
Sally Taylor’s name down. I got to get her on the show. Yeah, like it’s been 25 years, and the reason I even bring that up about Sally Taylor is the whole time I was with her and. It was nothing. I was single at time. There’s nothing. She was like a kid sister, hippie kid sister, cool person. But she did the show with me, I think. McIntyre may have been on with us at the time, or whatever. And she had her guitar with her.

Dave Preston 55:14
Oh, wow.

Nestor Aparicio 55:15
You know, and she, because she’s a troubadour, you know, she’s a, you know, she was a, she was young, she was really young. I mean, I look up how old she was, but she was in her early 20s, and maybe at the time. So,

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Dave Preston 55:26
and to circle back, what makes Carly Simon’s “Nobody Does It Better” even more awesome is that it follows such an incredible pre-credit sequence when Bond is going off the mountain. Oh, and you’re like, “Oh my god, what’s going on? He’s going off the mountain, and all of a sudden the parachute pops up, and they play the James Bond music, and boom, and you’re at a James Bond movie. You’re just like, you’re that.. I’m getting goosebumps. You’re Friday night at the theater, you know, on opening night,

Nestor Aparicio 55:53
right? I 100% So, here’s my full admission, and I’ll admit this to Sally Taylor. And by the way, once in my life I lived at the Harbor Court, which is where this picture was. Okay, on a Friday afternoon, I came home with groceries. I had fish, fresh fish in my bag. I think I got it at Fade Lease. I think literally I was walking around the city, and we were going to see James Taylor that night at Pier Six.

Dave Preston 56:20
Okay,

Nestor Aparicio 56:20
and James Taylor walked in my elevator, so I rode the elevator, me and James Taylor, and I had a bag that smelled like fish, and I made, like, a funny reference or whatever about it. He was so sweet to me. He was so James Taylor. I didn’t have a, you know, we didn’t have phones then to take a picture or anything like that, but I rode the elevator with James Taylor, and I meant to say, you have a lovely daughter. Yeah, yeah, I love you know, like I didn’t do any of that, right? No, so I didn’t,

Dave Preston 56:47
Taylor, you’ve got a lovely daughter. This reminds me of

Nestor Aparicio 56:49
your Justin Hayward story that you have. I actually

Dave Preston 56:53
did write it up in the elevator with Mike Love years ago. They were the Beach Boys were playing in a parking lot in King of Prussia. Okay, I was, I was there for a wedding, and we’re at the hotel, and we’re going up the elevator, and he shows up, he’s got his Hawaiian shirt, he’s got his hat, he looks like me, and the foreigner in terms thing, and he’s doing his, he’s obviously enjoying being Mike Love at that very moment, because everyone in the elevator is like, oh, and as we walk out, it was one of those embassy suites, where you can.. there’s a big, you know, atrium, atrium. Yes, so we hop out of the elevator. He’s at the.. he’s.. we know that he’s hopped out of the elevator, like below us or above us, or whatever. And they’re like, ‘Whoa, is he one of the Beach Boys? They say to me, ‘I’m like, yeah, they haven’t done anything good since Pet Sounds, because I’m like 23 and I’m a little squid, so no, you didn’t do that, a jerk. Oh yeah, I was, I was a major jerk. You

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Nestor Aparicio 57:47
did not give him good vibrations, you know? I did not, not at all. So my Sally Taylor thing is I was with her all after we, she did the show, and on the show I offended Kimberly Williams that day, and it’s still a source of great amusement with my wife, and well, she had just broken up with Pete Sampress, and she just didn’t – I wasn’t being a jerk at all. I was trying to, like, see if she enjoyed being at the French Open, or like it was a sports show, you know what I mean? I was just trying to, like, talk to her about strawberries and cream or something, you know what I mean? Like,

Dave Preston 58:18
open remains a sore spot, yeah, whatever.

Nestor Aparicio 58:21
Anybody to sample it? Correct. Thank you. Nonetheless, because I had just been to the French, I love tennis, but nonetheless, I feel I apologize. You were

Dave Preston 58:30
a tennis guy, if you were a.. if you were a tennis pro, a rank player, would you rather win Wimbledon or the French Open?

Nestor Aparicio 58:37
I would rather have dated Carling Bassett, but I would have been a French guy. I’m all about the clay.

Dave Preston 58:44
Yes, so such a tough thing. And for the longest time, Americans actually did well. Chang Sanford, or you know, Chang Agassi Courier won there, and you know, since I’ve got since Agassiz won in like 98 we’ve come up empty there, so that’s just my tennis aside. I, I love the majors, but I would rather I’ve always thought of the French, the French Open in tennis is the British Open in golf, where it’s a tough surface. It’s, it’s one of those things that you know, how the hell

Nestor Aparicio 59:17
did we get on tennis? Is Kimberly Williams, I think, pretty much. So, nonetheless, she dated Pete Sampress and didn’t, and Brad Paisley, and she doesn’t want to talk about that. So, nonetheless, Sally and I hit it off, and, and, and McIntyre, and I hit it off, because we talked a lot about New England sports and stuff, right? So, Sally and I hit it off, and she had her guitar, and, like, she made very clear, she’s like, “I don’t know how to play any James Taylor songs, like, she was like very clear that she was not going to sing Fire and Rain, for no, that like so was a

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Dave Preston 59:46
good way to nip it at the bottom. It was like very like

Nestor Aparicio 59:49
I don’t know any of their songs, like she knows how to play the guitar and doesn’t know how to play anticipation, right. So I did not think of her as Carly Simon’s daughter as much as I thought of her as James. Taylor’s daughter, for whatever reason, so it never got to me to think about anticipation, but I did think about in my mind I’m going to Carolina, which I, you know, I thought more Mexico, I thought more, you know, like all of that. Um, gotta spend just a little more time with you. Oh, I love that song he wrote about his dog, but nonetheless, if I had to do it all over again, I would tell you that Carly Simon’s Nobody Does It Better was my absolute favorite song when I was 910, 11 years old. I wore it out, I can sing every word of it to you, for you, and even more so that than like anticipation or Carly Simon’s greatest hits, of which it’s a Carly Simon song, it’s one of the top 10 songs of ours, but it’s not like the Carly Simon song in any way, right? So, I, I’ve not thought about this, other than having you on, how much I love that song. Then I’m going to go listen to that song in your honor. I’m going to find my Lan Kwai Fong picture in front of the Bottoms Up club in Hong Kong, and I took pictures out in front of the Four Seasons, which is on film there, where Q was, and came in on the submarine, and all that, and I owe you one more, the Goldfinger picture,

Dave Preston 1:01:11
yes. And

Nestor Aparicio 1:01:12
then you and I, and I’m going to recruit Max and Alan, and see if we could do a Bond viewing one night, that would be awesome. Well, if the double feature is going to be it, man, with the golden guns, guy, because I haven’t seen

Dave Preston 1:01:26
it. Yeah, you’ll

Nestor Aparicio 1:01:27
watch it.

Dave Preston 1:01:28
I will watch it. Yes, yeah, you don’t hate it that

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Nestor Aparicio 1:01:30
much.

Dave Preston 1:01:31
I mean, I, I don’t love it, but I don’t hate it. I mean, I again, come on, man, whenever the Shays lights up the

Nestor Aparicio 1:01:38
screen when Christopher Lee pulls out that that gold

Dave Preston 1:01:43
that was a cool gadget, that was a very cool gadget. And what’s amazing is that Christopher Lee is more like James Bond than anyone else. He was in the RA, he’s a

Speaker 1 1:01:52
badass. He did

Dave Preston 1:01:53
some serious stuff over back in the day during the war. You know who resembled

Nestor Aparicio 1:01:58
him? Dick Cass resembled him tremendously. Yeah, look up Dick Cass, okay? Looked a lot like Christopher Lee, right? I always, I always saw that, and I don’t want to forget the fantastically beautiful Maude Adams and Britt Eckland, and I had one of her husband’s on, had Slim Jim Phantom on, and you know, before I brought Slim Jim on, I said, listen, I don’t want to be a jerk, but I was in love with Brit, and man with the gold gun. Can I bring anything about it up at all? And he said, I’d rather not. I’ve said no problem, you know, I’m not going to bring it up. But I just thought, like, yeah, it’s Brit Eckland, man. Please, you know, I mean, it’s Brit Eckland.

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Dave Preston 1:02:36
At least you didn’t bring up, hey, can I talk about that video where she was with Rod Stewart, in, I mean, at least, hold

Nestor Aparicio 1:02:41
on a minute. What song did he write about? Tonight’s the

Dave Preston 1:02:44
night, tonight’s the night. He did 100% for real. I don’t know if he wrote it about her, but she’s in the video. Hold on, she’s, yeah,

Nestor Aparicio 1:02:52
I’m gonna ask, what song did Rod I write about, and it pops up Rachel Hunter.

Dave Preston 1:03:02
Oh God, yeah,

Nestor Aparicio 1:03:04
Britt Eckland, hold on. It was, “You’re in my heart.

Dave Preston 1:03:07
Oh God, okay, in my heart. Yes,

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Nestor Aparicio 1:03:10
you’re in my soul.

Dave Preston 1:03:11
Yeah. All

Nestor Aparicio 1:03:12
right, so which one did he write about? Which one did he write about? Rachel Hunter, it’s over, that one. not a good one there for Penny Lancaster. He wrote, I can’t imagine that is his current wife. So,

Dave Preston 1:03:30
favorite album by him remains. Every picture tells a story, and that is that. That is a CD that I listen to with numb. I listen to it often to this day.

Nestor Aparicio 1:03:40
Tonight’s the night is my favorite Rod Stewart song, but he played it for me last week. I love passion, I love.. oh my god, I could, you know, I could give you, hey baby, you’ll be on my mind tonight. So, yeah, I’m a rod guy, but look, Brett, Britt Ecklen was the first, maybe before Marsha Brady,

Dave Preston 1:04:01
yeah,

Nestor Aparicio 1:04:02
certainly before Farrah Fawcett, yeah, Brit Eckland might have been the first woman that ever inspired me as a five year old boy to think she’s a really pretty girl,

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Dave Preston 1:04:13
yeah, oh yeah,

Nestor Aparicio 1:04:14
so that’s why I want to watch Man with the Golden Gun, is that all right?

Dave Preston 1:04:16
Yeah, yeah, we can watch that, yeah, that sounds good, and maybe trying to think every time she shows

Nestor Aparicio 1:04:22
up in a bikini, we have to drink. Okay,

Dave Preston 1:04:26
good with that early and often. Good night, good night. We will do Thunderball. We will do Thunderball. I think that that’s a good, I think, and it’s no, you know, it’s no hating on Brit or Roger, or any of those people, but man with the golden gun, you see a lot of things come up short. I think Thunderball, you see the Bond machine every.. so we’ll watch this one

Nestor Aparicio 1:04:50
first, and then we’ll watch Thunderball second.

Dave Preston 1:04:52
Works for me.

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Nestor Aparicio 1:04:53
All right, there it is. Dave Preston’s put together movie night, talk about Betty Bond podcast, and then, of course, anybody go to WTO PE, yeah. Putting those days work with all the Washington sports teams, all the surrounding things, and his work in college football and college basketball. So, did I do a good job of reading your resume?

Dave Preston 1:05:07
Great, I think so. And we also, in the Nationals notebook, each week we, because we recognize that there are Orioles fans in our area, you know, and we’re still in Virginia, because, you know, 30 plus years following the O’s making the short commute to Camden Yard. So, we have what’s called Break Up the Birds and O’s Wo’s. When, when the, when the birds are doing well, it’s Break Up the Birds. When they’re not, it’s Owes Woes. We talk a little bit about a lot of woes for the

Nestor Aparicio 1:05:30
O’s. Yeah,

Dave Preston 1:05:30
it’s been a rough year. Been a rough year, but we’ll, we’ll, we’ll mention them as well as everything else going on with the Nationals in the Nationals Notebook. That drops every Monday. The fresh one is up right now, and of course you know Bond James Bond ranked as the podcast where we talk about James Bond Double Oh Seven, and you can even go online at WTO p.com search James Bond rankings, and you’ll find how I’ve ranked the Bond movies over the years, and you might not want to check it out, Nestor, because man with the Golden Guns not in the top 20, unfortunately,

Nestor Aparicio 1:06:01
that was me, that was me. Yeah, but somehow you found me all right. I gotta get Sally Taylor on. We’re gonna sing that one together. That’d be great. Dave Preston is here, man. I’ve had a fun career these 35 years, and I’ve lived long enough to graduate from taking phone calls from people saying let’s talk sports movies, because it’s a slow week. We got to have a topic on the show to say, and I’m going to do a deep dive on Bond, James Bond, but I did a really lousy job of finding all my old pictures, but I’m going to find them before this makes its way to Baltimore Positive. Stay with us.