The Maryland Party in Las Vegas has become an annual retreat for hundreds of local business owners, executives and real estate developers to network and grow the economy and influence folks toward action over 30 years. Our pal Bill Cole drags Nestor to the desert every year and the dessert is coming back with new friendships, stories to tell and leftover burnt hot dog ends that spark a conversation about the marvel of the amazing construction project and local food on the menu at The Fishmonger’s Daughter in Catonsville on the Maryland Crab Cake Tour.

Nestor Aparicio and Bill Cole discuss the Fishmonger’s Daughter restaurant in Catonsville, highlighting its unique blend of Baltimore and other city vibes. Bill praises the restaurant’s ambiance and passion in its remodeling. They also reflect on the Maryland party in Las Vegas, emphasizing its role in fostering connections and economic development. Bill shares his experience with the restaurant’s burnt hot dog ends and the positive team dynamics at the event. They also discuss the Orioles’ poor performance and the need for better marketing strategies, including fewer games and more day games to attract families and young people.

• [ ] @Nestor Aparicio – Deliver a Maryland Lottery scratch ticket (Maryland Treasures) to Bill Cole as promised (give ticket in-person or arrange handoff).
• [ ] @Nestor Aparicio – Invite the virtual production team (the Laurel studio founders) to appear on the show (schedule and book them as guests).
• [ ] @Nestor Aparicio – Schedule/feature ‘Miss Pac-Man’ segment next month (include on upcoming programming).
• [ ] @Nestor Aparicio – Publish the Maryland Crab Cake Tour stops for June and July (finalize and release the list of venues and dates).
• [ ] Help secure sponsors for Nestor’s activities (discuss sponsor opportunities and make introductions or commitments).
• [ ] Proactively connect Nestor with people in Bill’s network who can help with technology, AI, or other resources (make introductions).

The Fishmonger’s Daughter and Maryland Lottery Scratch Tickets

• Nestor Aparicio introduces the Fishmonger’s Daughter, a new location for the Fishleys family, and mentions the Maryland Lottery scratch tickets he will be giving to Bill Cole from Coal Roofing and Gordian Energy.
• Nestor shares his recent wrist issue and his experience rolling dice in Vegas, mentioning a Maryland party thrown by Howard Perlo and local business associates.
• Bill Cole praises the Fishmonger’s Daughter, describing it as unbelievable and unlike anything in Baltimore, with a unique blend of Baltimore and other city vibes.
• Nestor and Bill discuss the passion and effort put into remodeling the Fishmonger’s Daughter, comparing it to personal projects and industrial projects in the roofing business.

The Ambiance and Passion Behind the Fishmonger’s Daughter

• Bill Cole emphasizes the importance of ambiance and the whole vibe of a place, comparing the Fishmonger’s Daughter to other good restaurants he has visited.
• Nestor and Bill discuss the significance of sentimentality and artistic elements in restoration projects, mentioning the effort to repurpose old materials.
• Bill shares his experience with large-scale projects, like the renovation of Under Armour’s old headquarters, and the creative use of old wood and windows.
• Nestor and Bill talk about the trend of repurposing old buildings in Baltimore, mentioning various projects like the Natty Bow Tower and the warehouse at Camden Yards.

The Maryland Party in Las Vegas

• Nestor and Bill discuss the Maryland party in Las Vegas, a gathering of Maryland business associates and politicians, which Bill has been inviting Nestor to for years.
• Bill explains the economic development aspect of the Maryland party, emphasizing the importance of connecting with people in person rather than through Zoom.
• Nestor shares his experience of attending the Maryland party, including meeting various people and the challenges of networking in a large group.
• Bill mentions the shift in demographics at the Maryland party, with younger people now participating and bringing new energy.

Networking and Business Development at the Maryland Party

• Bill highlights the value of the Maryland party for business development, allowing for meaningful conversations that would take a long time to achieve otherwise.
• Nestor and Bill discuss the importance of face-to-face interactions and the unique connections made during the Maryland party.
• Bill shares a story about connecting two people at the Maryland party, who found each other helpful and supportive.
• Nestor mentions his interaction with Orioles upper management at the Maryland party, expressing his thoughts on the team’s performance and management.

The Fishmonger’s Daughter Menu and Experience

• Nestor and Bill discuss the menu at the Fishmonger’s Daughter, including burnt hot dog ends with high brow ranch sauce, deviled eggs, and other appetizers.
• Bill shares his positive experience with the food and the ambiance at the Fishmonger’s Daughter, emphasizing the well-done presentation and service.
• Nestor and Bill talk about the unique experience of the Maryland party, including the various activities and events that took place.
• Bill mentions the importance of having a good time and making friends during the Maryland party, which helps in building strong business relationships.

The Maryland Party Swag and Team Dynamics

• Bill shares a story about the lack of swag at the Maryland party and how his team stepped up to blow up beach balls for the event.
• Nestor and Bill discuss the positive feedback and teamwork displayed during the Maryland party, with people volunteering to blow up beach balls without being asked.
• Bill emphasizes the importance of having a team that is passionate and willing to help without hesitation.
• Nestor and Bill talk about the overall experience of the Maryland party, highlighting the fun and camaraderie that was shared by everyone.

The Orioles and the Maryland Party

• Nestor and Bill discuss the Orioles’ performance and the challenges the team is facing, including being in last place in May.
• Bill suggests that the Orioles should consider having fewer games and more day games to attract more families and young people.
• Nestor shares his thoughts on the Orioles’ marketing strategies and the importance of creating a sense of urgency around attending games.
• Bill and Nestor talk about the impact of the Orioles’ performance on fan engagement and the need for the team to find ways to improve attendance and interest.

The Importance of Community and Support

• Bill emphasizes the importance of supporting local businesses and community initiatives, like the Maryland party and other events.
• Nestor and Bill discuss the role of local businesses in creating a positive and supportive environment for the community.
• Bill shares his experience of attending events and supporting local businesses, highlighting the value of these connections.
• Nestor and Bill talk about the broader impact of community support on the overall well-being and success of local businesses and initiatives.

The Future of the Orioles and Community Engagement

• Nestor and Bill discuss the future of the Orioles and the steps the team could take to improve their performance and fan engagement.
• Bill suggests that the Orioles should focus on creating a sense of urgency around attending games and finding ways to attract more families and young people.
• Nestor shares his thoughts on the importance of community engagement and the role of local businesses in supporting the Orioles and other community initiatives.
• Bill and Nestor talk about the potential for the Orioles to become a more integral part of the community and improve their overall impact.

Final Thoughts and Gratitude

• Nestor thanks Bill for his participation and support, highlighting the importance of the Maryland party and other community events.
• Bill expresses his gratitude for the opportunity to connect with Nestor and other business associates, emphasizing the value of these relationships.
• Nestor and Bill discuss the broader impact of their conversation and the importance of supporting local businesses and community initiatives.
• The conversation concludes with mutual appreciation and a commitment to continue working together to support the community and local businesses.

SUMMARY KEYWORDS

Las Vegas, Maryland business relationships, Fishmonger’s Daughter, Catonsville, Maryland Lottery, GBMC, roofing business, economic development, Maryland party, networking, Orioles, baseball attendance, virtual production studio, Laurel, solar energy.

SPEAKERS

Nestor Aparicio, Bill Cole

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Nestor Aparicio  00:00

Welcome home. We are W N S T A M 15 70,000 Baltimore. We are Baltimore positive. We’re positively in Catonsville. We’re here at the Fish Monger’s Daughter, is the new location for the Fade Lees family. They’re still at Lexington Market. They’ll be there for another 100 years, and now here in Catonsville, where they hope to be for 100 years. I have the Maryland Lottery scratch, also the Maryland treasures. I’ll be giving one of these to Bill Cole from Coal Roofing and Gordian Energy. Also, our friends at GBMC, keep me alive and well, out with doctor’s appointments. And you know, ever since I had the orthopedist on, I’ve had this this wrist issue here. I’m working on this guy, my wrists were working, rolling the dice out in Vegas the other night. There were four seasons: there was summer, there was winter, there was fall, and then there was the hurricane of dust that rolled through on Sunday night. The Maryland party thrown by Howard Perlo and a whole bunch of local business associates. Bill Cole’s been kind enough to invite me the last couple years out to Sin City. How are you, man? How’s the roofing business? What’s going on? You’ve, you’ve had the full tour here.

Bill Cole  01:05

I mean, this place is unbelievable. Like, I can’t.. there really are no words, and I mean, I’m pretty descriptive guy. I like to think I have a decent vocabulary, but I’m telling you, well,

Nestor Aparicio  01:18

you come in and a lot..

Bill Cole  01:18

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this is not. this doesn’t feel like Baltimore, right? Like it is when you look deeper, but like when you just, your first impression, I feel like I’m in Chicago or New York or some, you know, like

Nestor Aparicio  01:30

it’s

Bill Cole  01:30

very different, really really cool. And then you start looking, and then you see all the sort of Baltimore, Maryland little pieces in the history, and unfairly, we got like the tour, so I get told all the things of what they are, and I can’t wait to do that for other people, because I mean, this is just really.. I haven’t.. I have not been in a place where so much time, effort, passion went into like remodeling it and making it their own, I mean, it’s just.. it is. Well,

Nestor Aparicio  02:03

you see a lot of projects in the roofing business, right? And you see people’s passion projects, or the once in a lifetime thing that they’re trying to do, you know? I thought I was doing that with WNST 30 years ago, right? When I came in, it was my place, and I’m picking out the carpet, and I’m picking out the wall, and you go through that so many times in your life, but when it’s a project this great, I remember Billy built his house on Eastern Shore, you know, nothing, right? Like when I did my place downtown, my little, you know, 1900 square foot condo, in trying to trick it out, this thing’s here a different level, but you see big businesses, right, but a lot of your businesses are industrial, not necessarily as showy. Right.

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Bill Cole  02:44

Totally, I think it’s more like, you know, I, I like to eat, so like going to other good restaurants, and I’m a big vibe guy. Like, I think as much as the good food is important, it’s really sort of like the whole ambiance of the room you walk into, and I mean, this has got it, man. I mean, this is like, I mean, it’s like I’m just blown away. Like, it is.

Nestor Aparicio  03:06

You want to grab your wife and take her to dinner here? I know you do.

Bill Cole  03:08

I do. I want to bring lots of people here. Like, the bar is super cool. I mean, just the whole thing is so well done. I’m so happy for that. Well, I’m happy that dude,

Nestor Aparicio  03:18

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like you, that knows your ass from your elbow got shown around here because like I look at stuff and to me showing me well this wood came from the roof and then this piece of tin and this piece of brass right I mean reusing things no offense to you I know you to be a little bit one more on the bougie side but like world roofer dude who like there are no sexy roofs other than the ones you

Bill Cole  03:43

know. Well, what? So I think part of it for me is in my heyday of like being a project manager or like an estimator was when Struve was like in their heyday

Nestor Aparicio  03:57

and they were building things like this

Bill Cole  03:59

and it was things like this and I would go on site walks with, like, Fred or Bill, 200

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Nestor Aparicio  04:06

year old buildings

Bill Cole  04:07

that is falling down. It’s falling down, and I’m standing next to this guy, trying to figure out, like, what vision he has, and I’m like, “Man, you’re crazy, I can’t see any of that. This place, I don’t even want to walk in here, I’m pretty sure it’s gonna fall down. So,

Nestor Aparicio  04:20

sometimes you’re thinking you’re spending too much money on this, or like that.

Bill Cole  04:23

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Yeah, maybe. I mean, I look, when we got to do, I don’t know what do they call it, but like all the ivory and dawn, where Under Armour’s old headquarters was, when we did those buildings, that was like pretty change, you know? I mean, that was big change, that was like really cutting edge, taking old and making it new, and to sort of what she’s done here. How can we take the old wood deck from the old roof that we’re getting rid of and repurpose it into tables that my people will eat at? And how do we save this window, because it’s really. Be cool

Nestor Aparicio  05:00

TV shows do that

Bill Cole  05:01

all the time, yeah.

Nestor Aparicio  05:02

And restoration, and people that move into a house, and something meant something to them, and they want to transform it into something that’s a doorway, you know, like there’s a lot of that that goes on, sentimentality. But I think the modern part of restoration, and people who are artsier than me, you know. Amy’s very artistic. You have an art far bent in you with all your architecture and engineering, and the things that you’ve done with your life. I envision websites differently in that way, right? But I’m not technical. What she’s talking about, we pulled 50,000 nails out of this floor, right? Like, literally, that’s.. I’m so not Schneider,

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Bill Cole  05:44

I mean, it look, it’s, it’s, it probably should be like, instead of the ghost tour, right? Like, Baltimore is fortunate enough to have enough of these properties that you could do, like, a bus tour, because

Nestor Aparicio  05:53

we have so many old places,

Bill Cole  05:55

old buildings that have had new life breathed into them, and, like, the Natty Bow Tower, I mean, you know, like that’s crazy, like if you would have saw that in the beginning, it’s just.. it’s.. it takes real amazing imagination.

Nestor Aparicio  06:11

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Name a dozen, we could sit here right now and name a dozen project off top of our head of something that was old that was made new again, not Harbor Place, where it was built from nothing, but like the can company over in East Baltimore, right? I mean, like these retro Camden Yards, the warehouse, Camden Yards would be one of the probably the most famous,

Bill Cole  06:30

maybe that’s the trendsetter. I don’t know that that one probably was first, I guess. I don’t know, maybe my dates

Nestor Aparicio  06:36

are off, but Romo Seltzer Tab, I’m just thinking of things, Penn Station has been refurbished, right, to look kind of, you know, old and new again. There’s there, yeah, Baltimore has that, where Dallas doesn’t have anything that old,

Bill Cole  06:50

right?

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Nestor Aparicio  06:50

Literally,

Bill Cole  06:51

I mean, it just is taking something that had a purpose at one time, like the warehouse at Camden Yards, right, and then re-envisioning it, changing it, being able to see it right, and then build a ballpark and put offices in there,

Nestor Aparicio  07:07

and that is

Bill Cole  07:08

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what she has accomplished here. And it is, I mean, it really like she has my full effort and support, which you know me well enough to know that that’s probably pretty good, that like we’re gonna get people through her door, because this is a treasure that we, she has now built. Like, it is super awesome.

Nestor Aparicio  07:26

Bill Cole’s here, he’s a family member, the Cole Roofing family. They’ve been doing it for generations. Damn, he’s been doing it for generations over here now too. We’re at the Fishmonger’s Daughter. We’re in Catonsville. I just got back from an event that Bill’s been magnanimous enough to take the Dundalk guy with two out to the pool. Did anyone say about the Maryland party? We just spent four days there. You have been participating for about a decade now, or like that.

Bill Cole  07:51

Yeah, I don’t know. I was trying to figure that out. It was definitely pre-COVID, but

Nestor Aparicio  07:55

started telling me about it a decade ago, and you’re like, ‘Hey, I did this thing in Vegas, it’s all Maryland people, you should go, and I’m like, all right. And then you told me that the next year, you’re like, yeah, next year you should go, and I’m like, yeah. And then finally, five years in, you’re like, no, you’re going, dude, you gotta, and I’m like, but it’s Preakness weekend, you know. So I went to the Preakness, and I left at 3o’clock I was on a 5o’clock flight, I got out there. We run hard when we’re in Vegas, I mean, you know, but the accomplishment of you getting me there is that I’ve met all of these people, some I know or knew, some I now know better, but it is – it’s a thing, the Maryland party, and the political aspect of politicians now staying away from it, in to some degree, because the perception of developers that are there, it is political in what it is, because it’s there to power up our state in some strange way.

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Bill Cole  08:50

Yeah, I think it’s a, it’s a economic development engine in theory. I, to me, I was thinking about this this morning, like the concept of connection, like when you truly connect with people, and you can try over a cup of coffee, right? I mean, I don’t even really try Zooms, because I don’t really think there’s connecting going on there. It’s hard to connect through Zoom, but seeing people repeatedly over a two or three day period, you know, in different states of inebriation, or in different states of, you know, hunger, or early in the morning, or late at night, you know, there’s just some.. it’s like

Nestor Aparicio  09:36

the other night, who was inebriated late at night, and I decided, and like him anymore. Fair enough,

Bill Cole  09:41

yeah, yeah, I get it

Nestor Aparicio  09:42

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back on the show.

Bill Cole  09:45

I judge sometimes. I’m like, if the conversation is too hard to have, like, it’s.. I need to go to bed,

Nestor Aparicio  09:52

or if you’re in the casino and you just won big and they’re trying to rip you off, like last

Bill Cole  09:56

year, right? Yeah, well, that happens too.

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Nestor Aparicio  09:59

That was. Want to tear, and the machine failed.

Bill Cole  10:02

Yeah, something like that. That’s a pretty good description. Yeah, you know, I just think that, like, the opportunity to meet people in a different environment, and it reminds me of the that kindred spirit stuff that happens if you go on vacation somewhere, and you’re like, in the Bahamas, and you meet another family who’s from Maryland. It’s like you guys now are like buddies, and you’re gonna spend the next three days together, and like, I don’t know why that stuff kind of happens to people, but it definitely does. So friendly faces, you know, you see them on the plane, and you’re out there, you see them again, and I mean, from a pure business development ROI standpoint, like I get to have more meaningful conversations in a three day period that would take me all year. Are they trying to get done? Yeah, to get on somebody’s

Bill Cole  11:00

calendar,

Bill Cole  11:01

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yeah, it’s just so, so hard, and I do. I’m also sort of re-energized, because I’ve noticed a real shift in sort of the demographics, in terms of, you know, we were in the, in the world, as a larger segment kind of conversation is like, you know, baby boomers are exiting, millennials are moving in, so that I have seen occurring people that I used to count on seeing there and hang out with for a little bit as my one time a year check in with them, they don’t come anymore, right? There’s three younger people from their team who are now out there flying the flag?

Nestor Aparicio  11:42

They’re the ones you need to meet anyway.

Bill Cole  11:43

They are

Nestor Aparicio  11:44

working right, 100%

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Bill Cole  11:45

and they were bringing new energy, and it makes me energized. And

Nestor Aparicio  11:49

the Orioles and the Ravens are at the pool selling, you know, amongst other things. Lots of politicians, lots of business owners, lots of people who work with the state or work in all sorts of industries above and beyond real estate, which is sort of the genesis of

Bill Cole  12:05

the party. It is, and I just think, I mean, I love the what I’ve been able to do over the time of going and being consistent about it, and then coming back and talking to people, is like I want to make sure that the people in Baltimore that I know that are givers that are trying to make Baltimore a better place, trying to make Maryland a better place, like come out here, like you need to know the other people who are in Maryland trying to do good stuff that are givers that are trying to work

Nestor Aparicio  12:33

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for three days, and you’re

Bill Cole  12:33

right, and we, we sit in that cabana, and we, you know, good people come in, and it’s like a safe, calm, stress-free space, like all good, and yeah, I don’t know, you just get to know people, right? And you find out how many kids they got, find out, you know, what their life’s like, and there’s just no pressure.

Nestor Aparicio  12:53

Well, I skipped out on Matt Moore this year for dance, so we’ll have to get him next year, you know. I’m, I missed out on some valuable networking time with some of your constantly

Bill Cole  13:01

airing,

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Nestor Aparicio  13:01

yeah, you know,

Bill Cole  13:02

no, it’s a lot of fun, you know, and you have the dinners, and you, and you try and like make sure you’re splitting up, you know, and

Nestor Aparicio  13:10

I’ve covered as much territory three times on the air, and I’m about to poop on you,

Bill Cole  13:14

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oh man,

Nestor Aparicio  13:16

Sunday night I had to work, and the reason I had to work’s because the Orioles stunk so much, that Luke, I gave Luke the option, you never want to do this. I say to Luke, do you want to do a segment? Do you not? He’s like, we probably should. So we probably should. Luke is my conscience. So I’m in the room, and you invited me to dinner, and I’m like, I’m going to be a little later. I did my 30 minutes on how bad the Orioles suck with Luke, and then I showed up at dinner. You’d already ordered all the food. There were 25 people there. Some of the people were already pretty lit up, because they’ve been drinking all day, right? So this is like 630 at night. The weather went from 92 to 62 in the time I was there, and the wind went to 60 miles an hour, like hurricane conditions. And I walk in and I’m friggin starving, and I wanted a drink, most of the food was gone, and you’re like, well, eat whatever’s left, and I’m looking around, and Ryan Ripken offered me burnt hot dog ends, and I’m thinking to myself, I’ve never been offered a burnt hot dog, and not even at a barbecue,

Bill Cole  14:18

right,

Nestor Aparicio  14:18

not even in Dundalk, if the weenie fell on the ground and got thrown back on the grill,

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Bill Cole  14:22

sure,

Nestor Aparicio  14:23

you found a place in Vegas with burnt hot dog ends, and I told Luke, I’m like, look, I went to Vegas about 15 years ago, and it was the first time my life I saw all these hot girls eating cotton candy for dessert, yeah, I saw them going tableside making cotton candy, and the girls are, it’s like a sexual girls are all like their cotton candy, so melting, and I’m thinking I’m gonna start seeing this. And, of course, I was in New York six months later, LA, everybody, everybody had cotton candy for dessert.

Bill Cole  14:50

So, you think you think burnt hot dog ends are on their way?

Bill Cole  14:53

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I don’t know, I am a big

Bill Cole  14:56

fan, like I don’t really prefer, I don’t prefer. Are my hot dogs burnt, but I know some people do

Nestor Aparicio  15:02

listen. I liked Ryan Ripken.

Bill Cole  15:05

He was only doing that because I was pumping them up so much. He was just trying to be

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Nestor Aparicio  15:11

nice to me, and he had like a filet, and I looked at him like, ‘Growing boy,

Bill Cole  15:16

what I don’t need,

Nestor Aparicio  15:17

you’ve traded up from hot dog burnt ends Ripken.

Bill Cole  15:19

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I don’t need like barbecue sauce on top of my burnt hot dog, and

Nestor Aparicio  15:23

what was that black stuff on it?

Bill Cole  15:25

It was like barbecue, some kind of barbecue sauce. It was, I look, it was fun, it was interesting, it was different. How about that?

Nestor Aparicio  15:31

What’s the name of this place? I’m gonna look it up right now. I want to see what Carson uses.

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Bill Cole  15:33

Carson’s

Bill Cole  15:34

kitchen,

Nestor Aparicio  15:34

Carson Kitchen. Okay, I’m gonna look it up and see if they just say burnt hot dog. Is that?

Bill Cole  15:39

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Yeah, that is what they’re..

Nestor Aparicio  15:41

it doesn’t say with a candy. Oh, it might say it might say something. Yeah, I mean, it’s gotta say something like that. If anybody out there listening, all 10 of you that still listen to the show, if any of you have ever been anywhere where burnt hot dog ends,

Bill Cole  15:56

right?

Nestor Aparicio  15:56

And if you see.. if any of you ever see Ryan Ripken, for the rest of his life, he will always be burnt hot dog ends to me. Okay, for this, all right. But I want to hold on here. Visit, they have one in Salt Lake City, too, by the way. So, just so you know, if you’re in Salt

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Bill Cole  16:11

Lake, that’s by where it came from.

Nestor Aparicio  16:13

Happy hour, this is why you went. They have deviled eggs on the menu.

Bill Cole  16:16

They did have deviled eggs,

Nestor Aparicio  16:17

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grilled. They were really good, keto tacos, temporary green beans. Oh, that’s just a happy hour. I want to see,

Bill Cole  16:23

but that’s all the stuff we ate. That list right there was all the stuff we

Nestor Aparicio  16:27

hold on. Happy hour menus door to dine in. Hold on a second here. I want

Bill Cole  16:32

to. I only took a look for two seconds. Saw burnt hot dog ends, and I needed to go there. I need to go there.

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Nestor Aparicio  16:39

What are you doing? I don’t. It doesn’t even make any sense.

Bill Cole  16:44

Sure, it does. Like, I don’t know.

Nestor Aparicio  16:47

Hold on. Short rib killer shrimp, pot roast dip, glazed donut bread pudding.

Bill Cole  16:53

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That was good.

Nestor Aparicio  16:53

That was a winner. Yeah, that was big. What else did you order there? Deviled eggs, bacon burger, killer shrimp.

Bill Cole  17:00

I think we ordered all the appetizers and all the desserts,

Nestor Aparicio  17:02

bacon jam. Oh, I found it. You ready?

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Bill Cole  17:07

Yeah,

Nestor Aparicio  17:09

Bill Cole will have the hot dog burnt ends with the barbecue glaze and the high brow ranch

Bill Cole  17:16

sauce. It was high

Nestor Aparicio  17:17

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brow ranch.

Bill Cole  17:18

It was so good, so good. Yes,

Nestor Aparicio  17:23

look at that.

Bill Cole  17:23

Yeah, I ate it all. Pickles while you were too late. I don’t know. Let’s tell you.

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Bill Cole  17:28

Yeah, all right.

Bill Cole  17:29

It was good. It was fun.

Nestor Aparicio  17:31

Tell me, take that stuff to Bob Haney and Rob Long. I ain’t eat no burnt hot dog ends, but the high brow sauce might be for me. I’m not sure.

Bill Cole  17:38

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Again, get people out of their environment, you kind of hold them hostage a little bit, right? They’re there in a foreign city, and just be really nice.

Nestor Aparicio  17:51

I try

Bill Cole  17:52

and just make friends, and you just meet people, and you never know. I mean, every year there’s some crazy conversation, or I, I connect two people that, for whatever reason, it never occurred to do back at home, and they’re just like super helpful to one another, and good stuff happens, and that’s, I mean, that’s just the juice, man.

Nestor Aparicio  18:13

I didn’t tell you an hour before Ryan Ripken offered me burnt hot dog games with high brow sauce,

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Bill Cole  18:20

high brow ranch sauce.

Nestor Aparicio  18:21

Thank you. I had a little pow wow with some Orioles upper management that were there.

Bill Cole  18:26

Okay,

Nestor Aparicio  18:26

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number two and number three in the Orioles management were the big, big time Oriole people. Yeah, Mark Fine and Don Roose back with a pretty good

Bill Cole  18:32

draw. Yeah,

Nestor Aparicio  18:33

I got a chance to tell them face to face just what I thought.

Bill Cole  18:36

Okay,

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Nestor Aparicio  18:36

and I appreciated that. I don’t know if they did. I think they did.

Bill Cole  18:39

They listened.

Nestor Aparicio  18:40

They did,

Bill Cole  18:41

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right? They didn’t push you in the pool.

Nestor Aparicio  18:43

I was on the second floor, so it would have been more Russian off the ledge. That would

Bill Cole  18:49

have been a little bit over the top. I

Nestor Aparicio  18:51

didn’t deserve all that, right? You know, I just..

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Bill Cole  18:54

and my boys from Revolutionary VP won the cornhole tournament, so that was really amazing.

Nestor Aparicio  18:59

Now, those are Wildcats. Well, they’re. they’re building interesting friends.

Bill Cole  19:03

They’re building a virtual production production studio in Laurel. So this is all totally new to me, so I’m gonna butcher the hell out of

Nestor Aparicio  19:12

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it, but I’m gonna try. Okay,

Bill Cole  19:13

so if you watch The Mandalorian, which was a Star Wars thing, right, it’s all happens in this other universe world that entire show was filmed in a virtual production studio, so inside a warehouse and behind the actors is 140 foot long led wall and creates the background and led ceiling and they build sort of the ground to look like whatever they need, and then unlike if you watch old movies, where, and the example that they use for people is Wizard of Oz, with the tornado scene, like there’s actors in front, right, and the tornado’s kind of in the background, but like as they’re moving. Like the tornado doesn’t move in the right way, as it would look realistic, so this, the cameras are talking to the scenery, and all that stuff moves, they can build anything now with the Unreal Engine, so that’s like the software behind Fortnite, that video game, and all that stuff, you know, anything about any of that? No. Okay. Well, they can build whatever, so

Nestor Aparicio  20:22

just make commercials. What are they?

Bill Cole  20:24

It does, they can make commercials, they can make videos, full-length movies. They do some really cool stuff with these walls, with like car commercials, because they can make it look like the cars rolling down the road.

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Nestor Aparicio  20:34

I just like those guys, because they wanted to hang out at Circus Circus with me,

Bill Cole  20:37

right?

Nestor Aparicio  20:38

They wanted to go slumming with me,

Bill Cole  20:39

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so

Nestor Aparicio  20:40

me and Nick Pappagiorgio,

Bill Cole  20:41

so they took right, so they, they took me down to Dallas last summer to a studio down there that exists, and they, we got a tour, and I was just, I mean, it was unbelievable, it’s, it’s similar to like how I felt about this, right, like you don’t really have any expectation because you don’t know what you’re walking into,

Nestor Aparicio  21:03

right,

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Bill Cole  21:04

and the just the

Nestor Aparicio  21:07

I did that with the burn hot dogs,

Bill Cole  21:08

yeah. Okay, well, I was I was geared up for them, so I knew what I was walking into, but wonderful guys, great storytellers, have a really big dream, have managed to like get enough of the right people involved in the conversation that they have a facility in Laurel that’s under construction that should be open by the fall, and there’s nothing like it around a

Nestor Aparicio  21:36

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collector of people. I mean, you really are

Bill Cole  21:38

like, you got to go to New York, you got to go to Atlanta, like, we don’t have anything like this. I like people who tell me about their dreams, you know, that’s why that’s

Nestor Aparicio  21:51

me, I guess.

Bill Cole  21:51

And then I get to like pick at them a little bit, and then maybe make them dream a little bigger. And then once I do that,

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Nestor Aparicio  21:57

I want to have those guys on the show, though, because they won the corner, criminal tournament.

Bill Cole  22:00

They did,

Nestor Aparicio  22:01

they wanted to go drinking and party with me over at Circus Circus, and I thought, yeah, these are the only guys that want to leave the Encore pool to go do $3 tall boys with me over at Circus Circus.

Bill Cole  22:13

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It’s really, it’s really simple. It’s just gonna seem overly simple. So the first time I met Dan, one of the partners, he’s telling me about it. He’s telling me he’s got this partner, he doesn’t really know him, like they’re new friends, they connect, they got a lot of commonalities, like a lot of good stuff. And I was like, well, that’s great. He tells me all about the dream, and I’m like, okay, look, like the first thing you need to do is you need to get with your partner, and you guys need to paper whatever this is between the two of you, right? Before you can go raise money or start doing other stuff, you need to get the two of you figured out. So, I don’t know, I see him like a month later, we go to lunch again, and he’s like, “All right, I got the stuff papered with my partner. That alone is like, all right, he’s a serious person, because I sit at lunches and coffee meetings with people who tell me about their problems, and I offer suggestions, or their solutions, and they don’t do any of it. I was like, okay, well,

Nestor Aparicio  23:16

to where you turned me on to AI a couple years ago, and Mike Rosenfeld, I mean, it is now literally when I’m done with you, I’m hitting the yoga mat the next four days, I’m me and Uncle Claude are getting together, right, and we’re gonna figure things out, you know, because that’s what solopreneurs do at this point.

Bill Cole  23:32

If you’re

Nestor Aparicio  23:33

willing to drive into technology, you’re gonna get driven away from by it, literally.

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Bill Cole  23:37

If you’re willing to like do stuff and continue to advance the ball, then I’m going to go out of my way to find all the other people I know that can be helpful to you.

Nestor Aparicio  23:47

I need some sponsors. You want to help?

Bill Cole  23:48

Yeah,

Nestor Aparicio  23:49

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sure. Bill Cole is here. He’s called Roofing and Gordian Energy. Do you want to say anything about solar or roofing, or any of your projects that you’re working on, or do you just want to talk about how bad the baseball team is?

Bill Cole  24:00

I mean, look, roofing right now is like we’re gearing up, you know, this is the busy season, and it’s time to get after it, because

Nestor Aparicio  24:09

the weather’s good, right? You can get things

Bill Cole  24:10

done, everybody wants their roof done, and they think summertime is the only time you get it done, it’s not, you can do it all year round here, but you know, we get definitely more

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Nestor Aparicio  24:18

January, February, tougher,

Bill Cole  24:19

tougher,

Nestor Aparicio  24:20

yes, but

Bill Cole  24:21

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not impossible. It’s all about maintenance, like nobody wants to hear it. Nobody really wants to talk about it.

Nestor Aparicio  24:29

Some HVAC guys say,

Bill Cole  24:30

but like, if,

Nestor Aparicio  24:30

like, don’t wait till it’s 98 to call me on the air condition, call me now, right? If

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Bill Cole  24:34

you would like to extend the life of your roof, it just requires a little bit of TLC once or twice a year, and it will last a lot longer, and they’re really expensive to replace, so you should probably do it,

Nestor Aparicio  24:47

and you don’t really want to sell on the new roof,

Bill Cole  24:49

right? Well, I mean, I do one day, but if I can get on your roof today, and instead of talking to you about replacement, just talk to you about a maintenance plan. That gets you another 10 years down the road, like I’m a life cycle guy, like we’re gonna be here, we’ll be here 10 years from now, right? I mean, so I would much rather bring value to people and do little things for a short period of time, and

Nestor Aparicio  25:15

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when it’s time for a roof, it is

Bill Cole  25:16

what it is, right? I mean, it is what it is, and you know, we don’t mind competing, we compete for that business, like it’s all good, like you hold me accountable. But

Nestor Aparicio  25:24

well, I had a good time with your crew and their wives. We had fun. We were at Las Vegas. It is the Maryland party. You can look it up if you own a business. If you like to be connected to things, it has been a pleasure for me to be involved with. I mean, I could sit here and list the names of all the people. Michelle Bresnik Walsh, who helped save my wife’s life. From there goes my hero. I see her every year with Gordon Feinblatt. I do find that that event’s funny, because if you’re dry, if you’re walking around with Orange Crush in a cup and somebody else has a cup that they’re sponsoring, they want you to drink from their cup, you know. I had a little bit of that going on too. City Atkinson grabbing, she’s like, ‘You’re drinking from the wrong cup. This

Bill Cole  25:58

is my.. I’ll tell you the good swag story, since you’re on

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Nestor Aparicio  26:02

the swag strategic factories there to swag it out too. So

Bill Cole  26:05

they are, so we always have debates about, you know, like what should we take? Like, are we supposed to give something away?

Nestor Aparicio  26:11

People take hangover medicine, right? Take aspirin.

Bill Cole  26:14

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So we’re there, like Garrett gets out there on Friday, he’s like first man, boots on the ground, right? He goes and collects our stuff, so we can have it in the cabana

Nestor Aparicio  26:27

swag.

Bill Cole  26:27

Yeah, it’s not there, it’s like caught up in shipping.

Nestor Aparicio  26:32

We had no swag, did we?

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Bill Cole  26:33

No. So, like, Saturday, Sunday, no swag, no swag. So, I’m, I’m, I’m probably more upset than I should be, because it’s really, I mean, it’s just, you know, whatever, that’s the way stuff goes sometimes, but I think I’m spoiled, because I think, like, my team executes so well all the time that I just don’t sweat that stuff, and, like, it’ll be fine, and then when it isn’t, I’m like losing my stuff, but so anyway,

Nestor Aparicio  27:01

even asked me to wear your swag. I wasn’t even wearing..

Bill Cole  27:04

I didn’t even tell you what I brought yet, or what we were trying to bring, what I was trying to get there. So, like, two months ago, or whatever, we’re having a meeting, talking about this, and Garrett.. I think I think I can give Garrett credit for it. I think it was his idea. He beach balls logo to beach balls,

Nestor Aparicio  27:21

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we had them in the cabana.

Bill Cole  27:22

Hold on, but right the last day, so, so we’ve got a, you know, some ungodly amount of beach balls, and we’re going to blow them all up, and we’re going to throw them on a pool the whole time, and then be all, they’d be everywhere, right? And somebody would get annoyed, but it would have been funny, so they showed up at like 1o’clock on Monday, the last day. There’s like two hours left, so I just grab them and I’m gonna start blowing them up, because like, what else am I supposed to do, right? I mean, I complained about it for two days, I complained about it for two days. So all right, here’s my medicine, so I start blowing them up. Well, like I didn’t even notice, and it took, it took a couple other people to like kind of tell me what was happening, but like the next thing I know, I look around and there’s literally like 11 people blowing up beach balls, standing in air cabana, just chipping it, and you know, man, like I didn’t really feel it at the time, but like that is such an amazing like feedback of like living a life of helping other people without hesitation, right, and then you draw these other people to you who had that same chip,

Nestor Aparicio  28:43

but you didn’t have to say, ‘Come on, blow up some beach

Bill Cole  28:45

balls. I didn’t ask a single person. I

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Nestor Aparicio  28:47

wonder how they all got blown

Bill Cole  28:48

up. Didn’t ask a single person. People just sat down and started blowing up beach balls, and it

Nestor Aparicio  28:53

was a tripped over when I right.

Bill Cole  28:55

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And then I mean, you know, so it was like I said, you know, you know, I didn’t notice it in the moment, but that is really cool to think about, like our company and our brand, and the type of people that we attract, and the people that we run with, like

Nestor Aparicio  29:12

you,

Bill Cole  29:13

you just everybody sweeps the floor, man, like you know, it’s just good stuff, it’s just, I don’t know, it was really touching, and that was kind of like, is capped off the weekend, right? Of like,

Nestor Aparicio  29:25

was it wasn’t as good as the chain smokers or the burnt-in hot dogs.

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Bill Cole  29:30

I don’t know, it’s probably the thing that’ll stay with me the most out of all that.

Nestor Aparicio  29:33

All right,

Bill Cole  29:34

I’ve gotten rid of the hot dogs, so we’re past that, but you know, I mean, I may or may not be trying to make burnt-end hot dogs this Memorial Day weekend, since you can’t do anything, because it’s cold and rainy all weekend.

Nestor Aparicio  29:45

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You sponsor me, you’re my friend, you give me good advice. You invite me to Vegas on a junket,

Bill Cole  29:50

you’re gonna tell me let go of the hot dogs.

Nestor Aparicio  29:52

Let me pick the restaurant next

Bill Cole  29:53

year.

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Nestor Aparicio  29:54

Let me, let me just do, you know, I mean, I won’t make it expensive, but

Bill Cole  29:57

I think it’s really good. I recommend people go there. It’s definitely off the beaten path.

Nestor Aparicio  30:03

It was a great place.

Bill Cole  30:05

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People were wonderful. They were very.. we were pretty loud, and there’s a tiny little place, so the other people were nice too. So it’s good. It was fun.

Nestor Aparicio  30:15

Good service was fun. Focals here. We’re at the Fish Monger’s Daughter. We were in Catonsville, Maryland, in the Music City, it’s all brought to you by the Maryland Lottery, in conjunction with our friends at GBMC and Farnham and Dermer. He does solar, he does roofing, commercial projects, and stuff like that. But more than that, we met through sports. This whole Oriole thing going away in late May, it’s problematic. I mean, like last place in May is problematic, just in a general sense, for the new ownership. My dear friend Marty Conway sent me an early morning text today, and this is after the three game sweep with Tampa, and he just said, ‘First ownership crisis. You agree with that? They got to do something, and winning is the only thing that anybody ever talks about that could change it, right? The winnings, the only thing that they can.. I don’t agree with that, by the way. Luke and I fight this through, and I’m like, there’s a million things they could be doing to get fans down there. They do some of them, they melt cows, they do HBC night, they do religious night, they do Pride night, they do dog night, they do cat night, that you know, they’re.. they do Star We had a Mandalorian night, they.. you know, they give bobble heads away. They’re doing all these things, but everybody seems to think that winning will be the only thing, and that’s the hardest thing to do.

Bill Cole  31:32

Yeah, I don’t.. I mean, I think we did win, and it didn’t change.

Nestor Aparicio  31:36

It didn’t change anything.

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Bill Cole  31:37

I mean, you know, minimum,

Nestor Aparicio  31:39

but it didn’t make you a four season ticket holder box. It make everybody in your company want tickets from you. It didn’t make you say, well, I’m canceling my plans to go to the Maryland party, and I give that x amount of 1000s of dollars to the Orioles, because my staff will get more work done, we’ll meet more people, my staff will love me more. Like, there

Bill Cole  31:58

didn’t move the needle.

Nestor Aparicio  31:59

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This is

Nestor Aparicio  32:00

really, really problematic for me, as I said, you were made that they’re in last place again. Angelos is way dead, and it doesn’t matter.

Bill Cole  32:07

I think it’s, I think it’s the stuff you said, and I think it will work over time. I think they have to continue. I mean, they are fighting for a highly contested dollar now,

Nestor Aparicio  32:18

no doubt.

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Bill Cole  32:19

So, it’s really hard in that business,

Nestor Aparicio  32:21

Camden Yards 1994 was a different thing.

Bill Cole  32:23

It’s really hard, and like I’ve been to the ballpark twice this year, which is two more times than probably the last three years. So, so

Nestor Aparicio  32:33

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were you junketed? Were you there as a guest?

Bill Cole  32:35

So, so one of the reasons I went is because my 15 year old daughter wanted to go on student night and get her $10 ticket and sit with all her friends in the upper deck,

Nestor Aparicio  32:45

that’s a good reason to go.

Bill Cole  32:46

Was phenomenal,

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Nestor Aparicio  32:48

great marketing idea. This daughter’s coming to you wants to go.

Bill Cole  32:50

I’m in. We’re already doing their job. She comes at me and says, well, you can just drop us off, and I’m like, maybe, maybe we do this together one time before you just.. I’m just gonna drop you off at Camden Yards,

Nestor Aparicio  33:02

yeah,

Bill Cole  33:02

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but you can’t sit with us, that’s fine, I’ll get another seat, yeah,

Nestor Aparicio  33:06

okay.

Bill Cole  33:06

And then the second time was, you know, lawyer friend had to box, and you know, invited us,

Nestor Aparicio  33:13

curios invited me twice. Thank you, Wendy, and the old Bronfman family, and they’re both afternoon games. I went, I took my wife to my buddies the first time you couldn’t go, and then I took my wife the second time, and I didn’t, didn’t use all four tickets, and it was the double header, it was that the one where they hit all the home runs in the first game, and then losing 12 to one in the third inning and second, yet I was at that one, but I don’t know what’s going to make me and my wife put our credit card out and go down there to see a last place operation again, or anyone I know that isn’t there on a junket, or on a night where they have to go, or a night when they want the bobble head, because the night where you go to see good baseball, it’s over with, and it’s May, and that

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Bill Cole  33:56

I

Nestor Aparicio  33:57

don’t know, it’s, it’s, it’s beyond sad to me, dude, it’s just what I do for a living, like

Bill Cole  34:02

it’s not gonna change until you get to some sort of like crisis level, right? So, with TV and all the other stuff,

Nestor Aparicio  34:12

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they’re gonna walk off the job next year, you know, they’re not gonna,

Bill Cole  34:14

right? And so maybe that’s the crisis, but like the only way it works, in my opinion, is less games and more day games,

Nestor Aparicio  34:25

more day games.

Bill Cole  34:26

Oh yeah, we haven’t talked about the day game concept.

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Nestor Aparicio  34:29

Nobody goes to the day game, so that’s an interesting thing you would say that.

Bill Cole  34:32

So,

Nestor Aparicio  34:33

I mean, they stay, they pack the place with 10,000 little kids,

Bill Cole  34:37

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right,

Nestor Aparicio  34:37

on those days for field trips, right, in April and May. They don’t have that opportunity in June, July, and August, right. And then, but September, they’re not

Bill Cole  34:44

kids, but young, young families will not go down at seven 730 at night to go to a baseball game, but young families will go during the day, like in the summertime, or during the week, in the summertime, you know, kids are also. Cool, like they’ll go to those games, seven television

Nestor Aparicio  35:04

standpoint, they’re a turd except ratings.

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Bill Cole  35:07

Well,

Nestor Aparicio  35:07

they play a Wednesday noon game, nobody’s watching, dude.

Bill Cole  35:10

Well, but I think that’s the same thing that we say about those ratings all the time, is that they’re not actually like every place you go, in every office, every all the TVs wrong? If the Orioles are playing at 1230 you think that TV isn’t one all over town? Of course it is. I

Nestor Aparicio  35:28

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think you’re asking a lot to ask people to take a day off and work to go to a ball.

Bill Cole  35:31

I don’t know,

Nestor Aparicio  35:32

but true, because Wendy’s offered me tickets to both the afternoon games, because she has had a hard time giving them to other people, because playing hooky. I’ve done it twice this year. I feel guilty about the

Bill Cole  35:46

first thing, less games. Okay, so less games overall. All

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Bill Cole  35:50

right.

Bill Cole  35:51

Well, because there’s no sense of urgency, right, to go to a game, because there’s five more games next week, and then there’s three games that we gave for that

Nestor Aparicio  36:02

programming they have for the television that they have, that’s more,

Bill Cole  36:05

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I hear you, but there’s no urgency around it, like, like part of the reasons why football wins,

Nestor Aparicio  36:12

every game’s a big game,

Bill Cole  36:13

every game’s a big game,

Nestor Aparicio  36:15

right,

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Bill Cole  36:15

and like you only get eight chances,

Nestor Aparicio  36:18

probably the NBA to forever, yeah, there’s no such thing as a big game, right, in the NBA or the NHL, right.

Bill Cole  36:25

And then the players, I think that I think they feel that too.

Nestor Aparicio  36:28

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Oh, of course, great.

Bill Cole  36:29

So

Nestor Aparicio  36:30

load management, yeah,

Bill Cole  36:32

exactly right. So

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Nestor Aparicio  36:33

imagine you and Haney 25 years ago, baseball, basketball, load management,

Bill Cole  36:37

right? You tweak your finger and you sit out for two nights, because you know there’s 82 games, so I don’t know, I don’t have the solutions for any of it, but I did like the day game idea. I do think there should be less games. I mean, look, I had a pleasant enough time the two games I went, the weather was nice. One was a Friday night, like I don’t know why we don’t do better on Friday nights, like $10 tickets. There was one section in the upper deck, it was fairly full of kids, so that’s cool. Mean, if the whole stadium was 10 bucks, would you, you know, would it get

Nestor Aparicio  37:14

well? That’s part of the issue for me. When I look, tickets on weekdays are 1214, 16 bucks. No one wants to go tickets on Friday and Saturday are 35 bucks, and no one wants to pay it, right? So, somewhere in between, this is what I’m talking to Mark Fine and Don Rovak about out in Las Vegas, but last place is just really hard to overcome every year, and 43 years and up in the World Series, and Mandalorian giveaways and bobble head giveaways are more popular than, like, come watch the team play, sure, and I find that’s a weird marketing thing that you would want to come to the Fishmonger’s daughter and like everything about it except the food, you know, I’m saying, like, that, that

Bill Cole  37:53

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is, wow, but that is what it is,

Nestor Aparicio  37:54

ball is the food

Bill Cole  37:55

that, but it, but no one goes for the food, I mean, that is what it is, it’s, it’s a,

Nestor Aparicio  38:00

they go for the souvenir, yeah.

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Bill Cole  38:02

Parents take their kids because their kids want to, they want to be able to say they took their kids to an Oriole game. If you look at the last generation in Baltimore that will be considered like true Oriole fans,

Nestor Aparicio  38:15

it’s us,

Bill Cole  38:16

right, because they grew up, we didn’t have a football team, there was one, there was one thing in town, right. And then, yet, maybe Colts fans, sure, but there was limited ways to spend my dollar, like top. The example,

Nestor Aparicio  38:30

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when I was young and sexy, I was doing a show at the barn one night, and really cute girl came on to me during the show, and she stole my license. This is a real story. 1998 or 99 I met a young lady, and we dated for several years, but the night I met her, I was doing my show, and she was a bit of a fan, and she came up, and I remember the first date we went on, and we went to Chili’s in White Marsh, because I was living over there, and I’m sitting across from her order notches, we’re on our first date, she’s pretty, and I’m like, hey, she’s cute, and we started talking, and we got into baseball, and she knew all the Oriole players, all the pitchers, all the starters, all that, but then we had like a feud about if she could name if she was really a baseball fan, and I’m like, name the starting rotation for the Houston,

Bill Cole  39:16

so you got in a fight with the girl on the first day, sort of like you,

Nestor Aparicio  39:19

I’m like

Bill Cole  39:20

challenged, I’m

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Nestor Aparicio  39:22

like like, name, name the starters for the Houston Astros, and she did.

Bill Cole  39:26

Oh, wow.

Nestor Aparicio  39:27

And I’m like, what are the odds of ever meeting a 21 year old girl in this city 25 years later,

Bill Cole  39:32

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right?

Nestor Aparicio  39:32

Who can name the five starters for the Orioles? You might not even be able to name.

Bill Cole  39:37

I can’t do that,

Nestor Aparicio  39:38

right? That’s my point. Yeah, my point is it was so ubiquitous, her, not just her, all of her girlfriends, all the dudes they dated, all the people they went to college with, everybody knew who Scott Erickson and Mike Messina were,

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Bill Cole  39:50

correct?

Nestor Aparicio  39:50

Like, literally correct, right? I’m not sure anybody here would know Pete Alonso if he walked in the Morse Burgers,

Bill Cole  39:57

he might be one of the few. Ones that might get spotted, but they are like true

Nestor Aparicio  40:05

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spotted. I mean, like, I think I could walk with Gunner Henderson through Towson, through Towson town. I could have walked through the Maryland party the other day, and there would have been some people

Bill Cole  40:16

that sound fair, but

Nestor Aparicio  40:17

not everybody

Bill Cole  40:18

I know. Well, no, of course not everybody, but that that particular group of people would know Gunner, but I don’t disagree. If you took him to the mall, like I don’t think he has any problem going anywhere he wants to go to get whatever he needs.

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Nestor Aparicio  40:31

I agree, if Gunner Henderson wanted to sit and stay fair, right?

Bill Cole  40:35

Right, I think that’s pretty good.

Nestor Aparicio  40:36

In a crowded room, there might be two kids, and

Bill Cole  40:39

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he put a hat on, he put a hat on, and you know, he

Nestor Aparicio  40:42

wouldn’t have to give an autograph or take a picture,

Bill Cole  40:43

yeah, like, like, there’s a

Nestor Aparicio  40:45

Mike Messina did not experience anything

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Bill Cole  40:48

like that,

Bill Cole  40:48

right,

Nestor Aparicio  40:49

anything like that, right, and you know, I even said to Luke today, like Jesse Minter, the new head coach of the Ravens, his cue is such right now that I don’t know the sound of his voice yet,

Bill Cole  40:59

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right, if

Nestor Aparicio  41:00

he walked in here, I’d say Beard Silver, but I’m not intimately familiar with him at this point.

Bill Cole  41:09

Sure,

Nestor Aparicio  41:10

I mean, if Roquan Smith walked in here, would you know who he is? Maybe he would know, right? I mean, I’m just trying to think of what the Orioles need to do to be that thing, and you’re like, they play too many games. Well, the Ravens don’t play a whole lot of games at all. We all know what Lamar looks like, so that’s a marketing job for what baseball has even harder for doing. It’s even harder on football because they wear a helmet most of the time, right?

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Bill Cole  41:33

So, for me to know what Lamar looks like, I’m seeing him enough times without his helmet on. I don’t know, that’s that’s a really crazy point, because it isn’t like I watch like the interviews, like I don’t really watch a lot,

Nestor Aparicio  41:48

right? I mean, if Craig Albernaz walked in here, I don’t, you know, I think I could walk around the city with Craig Albernaz right now, and no one would know who he is.

Bill Cole  41:58

I think if you gave me a picture of the 2000 Ravens,

Nestor Aparicio  42:04

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you can name every person.

Bill Cole  42:06

I, I’m gonna go 50 of 53 man, 50 of 53 I, there’s probably three that I would not remember, but I knew that team, like I knew that

Nestor Aparicio  42:17

Shannon Sharpe walked through the pool the other day, you knew who he was.

Bill Cole  42:19

Yeah, I never saw him. That was a rumor, but

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Nestor Aparicio  42:22

you got late. You were there late?

Bill Cole  42:23

No, just..

Nestor Aparicio  42:24

it’s not a rumor. He was there.

Bill Cole  42:26

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I know, I know. Just kidding. I just never saw him. I just never.. it’s okay. Like, I’m

Nestor Aparicio  42:32

Woodson was there too. I heard that everybody saw John.

Bill Cole  42:35

Rod has a hard time getting around. He’s an old football player.

Nestor Aparicio  42:39

Rod’s fine.

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Bill Cole  42:40

Okay. Well, that was the story I got, but okay. It was coming from a genuinely, like, feel sorry for him, and you know, physical abuse he took as a football player place. It wasn’t giving him a hard time. It was,

Nestor Aparicio  42:53

I don’t know. Yeah, Rob’s doing all right. Bill Cole’s doing all right. We’re doing all right. We’re the fishmonger’s daughter. If we stay here another two minutes, they’re gonna open the restaurant for us. So I’m a break and say thank you to you. Anyone say on solar, on roofing, on anything that’s important to you?

Bill Cole  43:07

Again, we’re always here. You know, it’s better to figure it out ahead of time than to wait for, you know, crisis to happen. So get ahead of it. Call us, and you know, always easy to kick the tires and understand solar.

Nestor Aparicio  43:20

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I’ve stayed here long enough that the restaurant is now open for business. Fishmonger’s daughter, we’re in Catonsville. So, I brought to you by our friends at the Maryland Lottery. The Maryland Treasures tickets are here. I’ll have the Miss Pac-Man’s next month. I don’t know where my next crab cake tour is, taking a little holiday respite. I’m back from Vegas, Memorial Day, getting settled into June, but we will have Maryland Crab Cake Tour stops. Lots of places I want to go. I’ll have those out for June and July. Also brought to you by GBMC. I told you, man, I gave blood, and I gotta watch my fried foods. You didn’t help me with those damn birds.

Bill Cole  43:53

Need to give blood for me to figure that out for you, there buddy.

Nestor Aparicio  43:57

Why I felt healthy.

Bill Cole  44:00

Oh, you are healthy, but it still doesn’t mean that fried food’s not bad for you, but it’s delicious, so you know, just do it in moderation, you’ll be fine.

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Nestor Aparicio  44:08

All right. Thank you, Dr. Cole. I am Nestor. We are WNST, back from more Baltimore Positive. Stay with us.