What’s it like to hit a home run off Andy Pettite at Yankee Stadium on Mother’s Day after your mom asks you to hit one? Let our pal and former MLB player Casper Wells tell you his best baseball party story as summer baseball chatter heats up with Howard Scher and Luke Jones in a summer huddle about the Orioles and progress at Greenmount Station on the Maryland Crab Cake Tour.

Nestor Aparicio, Howard Scher, Luke Jones, and Casper Wells discuss various topics, including sports broadcasting, baseball, and personal anecdotes. Nestor recalls offering Luke for a sports broadcasting camp, highlighting his background in education. Luke shares his experience at the camp, emphasizing the importance of being an expert and teaching. Casper Wells recounts his memorable Mother’s Day home run against Andy Pettitte. They also discuss the emotional impact of long sports droughts, such as the Knicks’ recent success and the Orioles’ past struggles. The conversation concludes with a light-hearted discussion about duck cleaning services.

Sports Broadcasting Camp and Luke Jones’ Experience

• Nestor Aparicio introduces the guests: Howard Scher, Luke Jones, and Casper Wells.
• Nestor recalls his long-standing friendship with Howard and their shared history.
• Nestor mentions a phone call he received two weeks ago about a sports broadcasting camp.
• Nestor offers Luke for the camp, highlighting his background in education and sports media.
• Luke shares his experience at the camp, mentioning the age range of the participants and their interest in sports media.

Luke Jones’ Lesson Plan and Interaction with Students

• Luke describes his lesson plan, which included a general lesson and a book.
• Luke recalls the excitement of the students, who were dreaming of careers in sports media.
• Luke emphasizes the importance of being an expert and teaching something valuable.
• Nestor and Luke discuss the evolution of sports media, from videotape to smartphones.
• Luke shares a story about a high school student who asked about the salary cap proposals and the upcoming CBA.

Luke Jones’ Advice to Aspiring Sports Media Professionals

• Luke advises the students to be experts and teach their audience something new.
• Luke shares his own journey from journalism to teaching and back to sports media.
• Luke emphasizes the importance of loving the work and not getting jaded.
• Nestor and Luke discuss the fun and challenges of their jobs, including long hours and travel.
• Luke encourages the students to have fun and enjoy the experiences, regardless of the outcome.

Casper Wells’ Baseball Career and Memorable Moments

• Casper Wells shares his memorable moment of hitting a home run on Mother’s Day at Yankee Stadium.
• Casper describes the pressure and excitement of playing against Andy Pettitte.
• Nestor and Casper discuss the significance of hitting a home run in the big leagues.
• Casper reflects on his time with the Mariners and the challenges of breaking into the big leagues.
• Nestor and Casper discuss the emotional impact of sports moments and the importance of family support.

Discussion on Sports Franchises and Fandom

• Nestor, Luke, and Casper discuss the emotional impact of long droughts in sports franchises.
• Luke shares his perspective on the Knicks’ recent success and the emotions of ending a long drought.
• Nestor and Luke discuss the impact of winning a championship on a city and its fans.
• Casper shares his experience as a Giants fan and the challenges of dealing with long droughts.
• The conversation touches on the importance of underdog stories and the emotional connection to sports teams.

Casper Wells’ Involvement with Blood Cancer United

• Nestor congratulates Casper on his involvement with Blood Cancer United.
• Casper shares the success of the campaign, which raised over $110,000.
• Casper discusses his personal connection to the cause, as his aunt passed away from multiple myeloma.
• Nestor and Casper discuss the advances in medicine and research that have impacted blood cancer treatment.
• Casper reflects on the importance of raising awareness and funds for blood cancer research.

Final Thoughts and Closing Remarks

• Nestor, Luke, and Casper discuss their plans for the upcoming baseball season and other sports events.
• Nestor shares a humorous story about Howard’s job as a “duck doctor” and the grossness of the job.
• The conversation wraps up with light-hearted banter and reflections on their shared experiences.
• Nestor thanks the listeners and sponsors, and signs off the show.
• The segment ends with a reminder of the importance of supporting sports and community initiatives.

Nestor Aparicio 0:01
Welcome home. We are WNST AM 1570 Towson Baltimore. We’re Baltimore positive. We’re positively here at Green Mount Station. We’re in Hempstead, beautiful Carroll County pastoral. They have horses, not like these horses, but they have horses here. It’s all brought to you by the Maryland Lottery, as well as our friends at GBMC, Farmer to Dermer. Zach has left the building. Luke has entered. Casper Wells is here, former big leaguer. He sells insurance for Helico. It’s and he talks baseball with us, and watches soccer. And apparently, this is going to be a basketball segment, because these guys are all nicked up. Howard Share is my life for pal, significant in that he was my original Oriole reporter. We met at a Baltimore Skipjacks game in 1983 84 on it, and he stuck with me 42 years later. We don’t mention the Cancun trip, but I will gladly tell you that if you write me Nestor Baltimore positive. Thank you.

Howard Scher 0:48
Ventured it quite a few times,

Nestor Aparicio 0:49
Luke. I got a phone call two weeks ago. This guy goes back so far to when you and I were working together, doing Hump and Howard and Critic’s Choice DJ. A guy had a Philadelphia to Sports Broadcasting Camp, and he would want you. I offered you up. You didn’t even know it, but I told him I could get you. He, for 25 years, he’s come in with these young people, and a couple of going on to work at ESPN. I had one of them on my show who became an ESPN anchor, who came back. He, Jeremy Treatment, he’s a good guy. You can look up sports broadcasting play by play. He called me two weeks, he was like, ‘Hey, honey, speaker in Baltimore. I’m like, you don’t want me. I mean, you know, I’ve done it. I haven’t done it 10 years, but I did it a bunch of times. And I said, I have this Luke guy, he’s a young whippersnapper, and he might work out fine. Matter of fact, I heard he had a background in education, so I need to know how your sports brought. Sell this to Casper. Tell Casper what you did, because I’m.. I, he doesn’t know it, but I offered him up because he’s always looking for like somebody around I could talk to you, and he likes having ball players. He and Kobe Bryant were very, very close in life throughout Kobe’s life, and he’s a good man. He hit me up and put a few nickels in your pocket, and you wore these kids out today. So, you had a.. where’s your curriculum? I know, come on, dude,

Luke Jones 1:58
my curriculum.. it was a sheet of paper, and that was it.

Nestor Aparicio 2:01
You got a syllabi.

Luke Jones 2:02
I had my general lesson plan, and then that book. No, it’s not. It’s in the car.

Nestor Aparicio 2:08
He came for the American Idol competition in 2008 He had a complete.. you can look it up on the internet. He’s wearing a helodeon, not a jersey. Looks a little younger than he looks now. When he did the tryout for this gig, not knowing how awful it was going to turn out for him, he was a fifth-grade school teacher for many years in Southern Pennsylvania. So, I sent him back to kids today. So, I just felt like I felt like I was doing Jeremy a favor, I felt like I was doing you a favor, and I certainly was doing these kids a favor. It was because they avoided me. It

Luke Jones 2:36
was fun. I mean, it was, I think, the age range was like late elementary, so probably like fourth or fifth grade through entering senior year of high school, so you have kids who are maybe just dreaming of the idea of being in sports media and sports communications, and you had others who were like, hey, like I mentioned I went to Syracuse for a couple years, and like, they, you know, a couple of them, you could be impressed by that, yeah, but it was just, yes, yeah, I noticed I said a couple years, and that was it. I certainly didn’t stay there for the duration or beyond that, but it was just fun because I remember being 10 years old, and I remember playing baseball or playing football, and thinking, okay, this probably isn’t going to happen for me beyond maybe college, if I’m lucky. Kevin and I put

Nestor Aparicio 3:21
together typeset a wrestling magazine when we were in eighth grade in our summer. We made our own wrestling rankings, we styled it. We two years later I was working at the newspaper doing that work, so it’s all I’ve ever done. But when I went and saw the light in these kids’ eyes 20 years ago, they had sort of lousy equipment, we were still on the videotape kind of, and then it went to like a little bit digital. I can’t imagine, I haven’t given this speech in probably 12 years. How far we’ve come, where these kids can videotape each other with the phones. We weren’t there the last time I spoke to the group, they had cameras still, there was no, we’re gonna videotape each other with our phones, that’s how far back generationally, that’s why you were the right guy to speak to them and not me, because I think these kids are so much further along, they can all have their own YouTube channel today if they like, there’s so much more you can do, that’s all I would say, yeah,

Luke Jones 4:16
there’s so much more you can do, but I think the basics are still really important, right, I think a background in writing. I think reading, becoming an expert. I mean, that I kind of.. I had five. I came up with five bullet points, which weren’t the end all be all by any means. But one of the first things I said was, be an expert. For anyone who’s going to read or listen or watch what you’re doing, teach them something. It’s entertainment, but generally, if you’re going to listen to a podcast or listen to the radio, or you’re watching, I mean, even the game itself, some of these kids are interested in doing play-by-play or color analysis, and when you

Nestor Aparicio 4:53
have a big league player like Casper Wells sitting next to you, you have to know your ish, you always respect it, and me, I feel like I’m talking. The kids now watching this, but like that, I think that would be your role in going to them and saying, “Hey, I played in the big leagues, but I’m here to answer your questions, and I’m accountable, and if I strike at you, ask me quite like you know all those kinds of things that have that are important about teaching young people, because the fan boy part of it in being there is one thing, but they really, I mean, they’re there trying to learn how to do this, yeah. And I treated them as such, and I know you did too.

Luke Jones 5:24
Yeah, I mean, I had one kid that asked me about it, was clear he had done it somewhere, and he was a high school kid, obviously, but he asked me about the proposals for the salary cap that the owners have put out there for this upcoming CBA, and this inevitable lockout that hopefully isn’t going to cost us whole season, but certainly going to wipe out the off season. Well, you’re at the mission two weeks, I spoke him on the show, but yeah, but I was just, first, I mean, before I even get got into it, and he was asking me what he, I, what I thought appropriate parameters would be, and I said, I’m not going to blow smoke here, I don’t know, but I, what I do know is, when I was younger than you, there was a World Series canceled because the owners wanted the same thing, and the players were so dug in that they didn’t want that for obvious reasons, but just the fact that he asked that question, I mean, that was impressive, and you know, I mean, most of these kids were from the Baltimore area, so there were questions about Jesse Minter, and there are questions about Craig Albernaz, and all that, but there was just a lot of curiosity, and I thought that was interesting, beyond, you know, what’s Lamar Jackson like, what’s Gunner Anderson like, which is totally fine. Nobody

Nestor Aparicio 6:24
asked what your jerk boss was doing today. No, no one asked about AI me good. They didn’t do enough research, but it

Luke Jones 6:31
was just fun, and I, you know, I started off by just asking them questions, like, okay, first of all, I started out, raise your hand if you like sports, you know, and obviously everyone raises their hand, raise your hand if you know exactly what you want to do when you grow up. He videotaped

Nestor Aparicio 6:43
this,

Luke Jones 6:44
I think they were putting it on social or something like that. Jeremy wasn’t there, it was, it was John and some of his other people, but I just.. and I went, yeah, I should go

Nestor Aparicio 6:52
on vacation, you should do this,

Luke Jones 6:54
but I went through my story and said, look, I went to school for journalism originally, and then thought at age 19 I didn’t want to do that, and I went into teaching, and I taught for five years, and I have no regrets, but two years into that, I realized, hey, I still have the sports media bug, and I mentioned the competition, like you said, basically American Idol for sports media, and here we are, all these years later, I’m doing it, I said I’m not famous or rich, but I’ve got a house, I’ve got food, I get to do, go to games, and talk about it, write about it, and everything. And I said, “That’s great, and I said, “I will root for you to all be way more successful than me. But if you get to do something that I’ve been blessed to do for as long as I have, that’s pretty darn cool. And you know that my last point for them was, “Don’t get jaded about it, have fun with this, and

Nestor Aparicio 7:39
that’s why I’m trying to go to Boston with you, see, but you’re not having any fun, you and me.

Luke Jones 7:44
See, I disagree. I have fun every time I go. You like bed

Nestor Aparicio 7:48
at six in the morning after being up all night talking about not getting hit till sixth inning.

Luke Jones 7:52
Yeah, because it still beats what other people do for a living, and I say that with no disrespect to anyone. Suck

Nestor Aparicio 7:57
stocks,

Luke Jones 7:58
and my over selling

Nestor Aparicio 8:00
insurance,

Luke Jones 8:00
my overall point, and look, there are there are all kinds of great jobs out there, but you know, for someone who’s into sports, and you know one thing, I told them, and I, I can’t remember, I have no idea who told me this, I’ve heard this from someone before I even met you, and the overall point was like the sports, love the writing, and I said, just love the work, and my point with that is, look, I’m not going to sit here and say you don’t love sports, we all love sports, obviously, but you need to love whatever form of medium that you’re using, whether it’s radio or writing or whatever it is, you need to be as excited about that, because my job isn’t to go to the Orioles game and root for the Orioles, that’s not what this is about. I cover the Orioles, meaning I’m going to talk about the good, I’m going to talk about the bad, I’m going to talk about the indifferent, I’m going to see what’s going to happen next, and you know the idea of wanting them to be excited about that part of it, as at least as much as, wow, I’m getting to cover major league baseball, and so you know, these were just, I tried to, I tried to think about how I was at age 10, how I might have been at age 14, how I might have been at age 18, and, like, you know, that the cliched thing of writing a letter to yourself, right? The idea of what pieces of advice would I give them that I think would have helped me at that age, and I hope they, it was about 40 kids, I’m hoping if three of those kids take some little morsel of something I said and apply it at some point, then then that was worth it, right? I mean, then it was cool, and all that, and, and you know, they, they like getting pictures and all that, which again, that was like, I’m just like, I’m not a big deal, but I’m hoping you’re all way more famous than me, but, but I said to him, going back to that expert piece, I said, in 30 years, when I’m retired and I’m seeing you on ESPN or listening to your podcast, you better teach me something, because you need to be the expert. So, it was fun, like it was. It was a cool experience. And going back to, you know, your joke about us not having any fun and all that, it’s a reminder of this is a lot of fun, and this is entertainment. At the end of the day, and you know, I talk about this a lot with you. The experience of being a fan, look, we want our teams to win. They most of the time, there’s more disappointment than the Knicks are a great example of that, right now, right? 50 years, but it’s about the experiences, it’s about the people, you know, that not just like the players or the coaches, but going to games with your dad, going to games with your mom, listening to games with your grandfather when you’re a kid, all those things. I remember those experiences way more than who won that that day that game, who hit a home run that day, who was the winning pitcher, who scored a touchdown with three minutes to go. Like, I mean, I think about those like

Nestor Aparicio 10:38
when you meet your lifelong buddy, yeah, we had a minor league hockey game with 1200 people there, and we get, you know, they’re playing a team from Schenectady, or worse, you, but, but a cool,

Luke Jones 10:48
but a cool part, I think it was

Nestor Aparicio 10:49
Binghamton that day, and I’m not bullshit, yeah, Binghamton, I’m pretty sure,

Luke Jones 10:53
but a cool part, like going back to the, you know, players are people, and you know, I think one thing that I try to be cognizant of working in media is that’s a human being that has been extremely successful getting to the point where they are now, regardless of where they might rank in the major leagues, they’re still incredible at what they do, but to also remember, there’s a, there’s a person behind that. I told the story, you know, I’ll share, you know, one of the anecdotes that I shared today with the kids. One of my favorite memories, covering the Orioles, like I can mention Delmon Young, and covering them in the playoffs, and all kinds of different stuff like that. But I remember, remember, Henry Urudia was a Cuban player, made it to the Orioles little over a decade ago, was one of Dan Duquette’s very few international signings, because we know how Peter Angelos did not prioritize that, that part of the world in terms of signing contemporary yours, right? Yeah, okay, you’re, but he, yeah, 2015 I think he might have had a cup of coffee in 13, and then 15 he was back with the Orioles for a short time, he had a walk-off home run against the Mets, July, August of 2015 something like that, I think. He had fewer than 100 plate appearances in his career, but that post game he got the ball back. His son had been born three months, four months before that. His son was an infant, like legitimately an infant in a car seat, and he got so emotional just talking about reflecting on what that meant, the fact that he’s going to be able to give that ball to his son someday. You know, this is an individual defected from Cuba. You think about his life story, getting to that moment, and he got a little teary-eyed, but not overwhelmingly. He spoke great English. He, I remember, he always.. this was in the days where they didn’t have official interpreter cue in the way they do now. Now then it was maybe a player would do it or he’d speak in broken English, but spoke phenomenal English. And I remember looking around at the seven or eight other reporters that were in the scrum. Everyone had, like, was choked up, like it was amazing. It was one of the most incredible experiences, because you’re just thinking he’s gonna tell his great, not just his son, about that when he’s grown, but he’s gonna tell his grandkids already.

Nestor Aparicio 13:07
You’ve already mentioned your first term, because you don’t, for you know, so as a journal, forget when you know, but as a,

Luke Jones 13:12
but as a journalist, you get to be such a small part in telling that story, and that’s just that’s something that, as much as the 13th straight day I’m out knowing Mills for training camp, and it’s 98 degrees, and everything feels the same, and every question’s the same. I remember moments like that, where I’m just like, it’s pretty cool, something special might happen tonight. And there you go, there’s something that is a not even a footnote in Orioles history, but in the Urudia family, that’s going to be a story that’s told probably for four generations. What’s your favorite

Nestor Aparicio 13:40
baseball story? You played, I mean, all of us would have liked to have had one sniff to strike out one time, we would have liked to struck out 100 times in a row in the big leagues, and we could have gotten there. What is your moment? What’s your best memory in baseball?

Casper Wells 13:53
That’s real easy, was getaway day, we’re playing the Yankees. Who are you playing

Nestor Aparicio 13:58
for?

Casper Wells 13:59
I was on the Mariners. Okay, so I’m in my.. it’s Mother’s Day. My mom comes in my hotel room. I got like, got like tan suit with a pink undershirt. I saw the picture of it, I could share it with you. So,

Nestor Aparicio 14:10
you’re in New York or New York, okay?

Casper Wells 14:12
My mom comes in, she says, “Hey, honey, and it’s May. They’ve

Nestor Aparicio 14:16
been in the big leagues at this point.

Casper Wells 14:17
This is second, 2012 so still

Nestor Aparicio 14:19
new to you. It’s still two years, okay?

Casper Wells 14:21
Yeah, it was a year after I got traded a Mariner, so, but at that point in the season, I just saw I had a handful of at bats, I was kind of playing like just kind of playing intermittently, had no home runs to date and no RBIs. My mom comes in and says, “Hey, can you, I want you to home run for me today, and I was like, funny thing is, is my mom, anytime she requests a home run for me in the minors. She did it seldomly, but anytime she did, I did. I hit a home run, just whatever. You were just trying

Nestor Aparicio 14:47
to get in at bat that day, correct?

Casper Wells 14:49
No, I was starting to

Nestor Aparicio 14:50
start. You knew you were playing, okay? Yeah, I knew I was starting because it was..

Casper Wells 14:53
I was starting against Andy Pettitre coming back off of rehab. Okay, I’m gonna sold out Yankee Stadium on Mother’s Day, so. I knew I was playing very much, knew I was playing, so did my whole family growing up.

Nestor Aparicio 15:03
What’s a home game for you? Because where you’re from, right?

Casper Wells 15:05
Yeah, so it was so just it was almost like so much pressure and so much it was just so much anxiety that I almost was like kind of, yeah.

Nestor Aparicio 15:17
Okay, all right, just not first time in no,

Casper Wells 15:19
so I was like almost calm because it was like overwhelming. I grew up, I was a Yankees fan. I watched Andy Pettitte, watch the World Series, you know, I mean, like Roger Clem as Andy Pettit was, was everything growing up, like watching them. So I was like, okay, my sister is that’s her favorite player, my one sister, she’s like, she’s, she’s like, you know, take it easy, Andy Pettit, but you know, not really.

Nestor Aparicio 15:38
Three for four, dude. Let’s,

Casper Wells 15:39
anyway, hit a home run off the foul right field foul pole, and my second at bat, you know, pointing up to stands, and it was just.. it was an unbelievable moment, like, you know, and I’m never gonna top that Mother’s Day for my gonna be like, get you a gift better now, but you know, Shane is hell,

Nestor Aparicio 15:56
35 years, right? Like, sitting here hearing you tell the story, I can’t begin to tell you how many big league ballplayers I know, or how many are in my phone, or how many I’ve sat with. Crowley hangs out over here all the time. I was trying to get him in, I think, for Howard in our 42 years, and Luke and I 20 years. Anytime you sit with a big league, somebody hit a big league home run, hit a home run in the big just one home run in the big leagues, ah, you know, I mean, that’s not, that’s not a small thing, that’s an ex, that’s not a small thing, so that is a very exclusive subset, yeah, yeah, it’s awesome, that is awesome. So I love to hear that story. Casper Wells is here, he sells insurance at Heller Co. It’s Luke is here, he teaches young people and old people, I think, and Howard’s one of my oldest friends in the world, he always likes, say, I held Barry on his lap while he was watching hockey all the time, so we have pictures of little Barry.

Luke Jones 16:50
You should recreate that photo at this point, it’d be really funny, yeah, taller than me now, right?

Nestor Aparicio 16:58
My kid’s older than him, right? How are you?

Casper Wells 17:01
41

Nestor Aparicio 17:02
Yeah, my son’s born 84 We went through this, didn’t we?

Casper Wells 17:04
84 yeah. Yes, slightly

Luke Jones 17:06
older than Barry,

Nestor Aparicio 17:06
right?

Luke Jones 17:07
I’ll be 43 in October.

Nestor Aparicio 17:09
Well, Howard and I, we were 43 once. We went to Cancun that year, I think it’s, yeah. So, listen, I may, I’ve made a lot of poor decisions. You’ve seen this in our relationship, right?

Howard Scher 17:18
Yes,

Nestor Aparicio 17:19
you would agree that the best decision I’ve made recently was sending Luke instead of me to these kids today, right? You would agree with that 100% Yeah, all right. They said they’re right, because they would have gone home

Howard Scher 17:28
and told their parents who came and spoke, and the parents would have said we wasted our money today.

Nestor Aparicio 17:32
What could I possibly teach these kids that they don’t already know?

Luke Jones 17:36
Right, you would have done a fine job. I’ve seen you interact. I wouldn’t have had syllabus. You’re way better interacting with kids than you’re giving yourself credit for. Seriously, no. He

Nestor Aparicio 17:45
is good with kids. Yeah,

Luke Jones 17:47
I’ve seen, you know, at live shows we’ve done over the years, or you know, just young kids or someone with special needs. I want to be alive after

Nestor Aparicio 17:54
I die, so I can hear what you all really have to say about me when it’s over with. No, I was just saying about way too nice to me. Now, everyone else you interact with, that’s,

Luke Jones 18:03
you know, that’s a different story. I mean,

Nestor Aparicio 18:04
you told me I was good with something. This is the first time ever

Howard Scher 18:08
Chad Steele told me to build you up a little bit today.

Nestor Aparicio 18:10
Don’t start, okay? Don’t start. I got fresh information. You don’t want that. You don’t, you don’t want to. Don’t crank me up. All right, Luke and I have already thought about this twice this week, so on the next topic, but it was a really bad fight, so it was like twice. We don’t fight much, but when report tours are being mistreated, Luke would probably tell you, I am nastier off the air than I am on the air, right? You would agree with that. Yeah, I am. It’s no joke to me. It’s, it’s, it’s just on for me. So, anyway, it’s baseball season, all-star game, which is the reason I, you guys wanted to talk NBA. I want to give you some latitude to do that, and we’ll do all-star game. Is that you don’t want to do NBA throwing it out there? I’m like, yeah, happy to

Casper Wells 18:59
next one. No, it’s fine. It’s baseball season. How does your

Nestor Aparicio 19:02
brother-in-law feel about this with the Sixers thing? And then the Wizards get the first pick. What you mean with the Knicks winning? Yeah, I mean, are people pissed? Is there anybody mad about that? Nobody ever hated the Knicks, not even the next. I don’t know about that. Who hates the Knicks? But Reggie Miller, I don’t know. I think I mean, they didn’t ever beat anybody. I always, my dad, he’s been dead 30 years. They beat, they beat the bullets. My dad had no use for the Knicks, Clyde, none of them, the Bush, or none of them. I don’t know, you

Luke Jones 19:29
get to a certain point, and I felt this way, honestly, even about the Red Sox, and oh four. And I grew up in Baltimore, I’ve been an Orioles fan from the time I was a baby, right. But when you do have these long droughts, and it’s one reason why, at this point, my life, if I’m being completely honest, an Orioles World Series would mean a heck of a lot more to me than the Ravens winning another Super Bowl, which I’ve covered one, and I experienced both, everybody would agree, right, but I’m just saying, like, you, you get to, you get to a point, and I think the Knicks, for despite it being new. York and Dolan, and so much of the perception of the franchise for a long time, and that still exists, even with the Charles Oakley feud, and all that. When you have that kind of a drought, it’s really easy as a sports fan to at least put aside, not that you’re going to root for them, but understand that there are kids and fathers and grandfathers and multiple generations that can and family members that aren’t with us anymore, and that kind of, you get into those feelings a little bit, where I think you can, like, yeah, I was at the

Nestor Aparicio 20:30
US World Cup right now, like, like they’re doing something that they haven’t done, yeah, and all the young kids that are into soccer, all the Carl Delmont’s kids that he brought around here for years, like, this is, this is good for them, that it’s happening in America, right? But, like, the

Luke Jones 20:43
Knicks, like the thing, two weeks here, I thought about it just looking through the lens of, okay, that was 1973 the Orioles, their drought’s only 10 years younger than what that drought just, that was just snapped, was so you know, you think about it through that lens, I mean, you know, my dad’s been gone over 20 years now, like that was something that we always talked about, as far as, like, an Orioles World Series. I was two weeks old when they last won, and my dad died after the last when he died happy. My dad was an usher. My dad was a dad who’s good. My dad was an usher at the old stadium. He, he skipped, skipped out working on the World Series to be home with my mom and me. I mean, like, that’s what kind of father he was, but it was also like, that’s cool. So, like, when that happens one day, oh my gosh, whether I’m still doing media or not, hopefully it happens before, dude. But

Nestor Aparicio 21:28
I’ll say this, the emotions

Luke Jones 21:29
of that. Oh my gosh, like people who get to exercise those demons and enjoy it with their family and their friends and everybody. I

Nestor Aparicio 21:37
did all the archive stuff, right? And Zach Dermer was here early, was asking me about Ken Rosenthal and covering the Orioles in the 80s, and my, you didn’t know how well I knew Rosenthal, and I’m like, Kenny, and I have been 40 years intersecting through all this, but I found something that even predates him, and it predates my newspaper, I have all this stuff in boxes, not, I mean, it’s a lot, but it’s not a lot, but it had newspaper sections, and there were the ones that I put out in the 80s, which you know was the Fred Lynn, Don Aussie, why not sections, but I have the 79 and the 83 and the 66 sections, you know, the special inserts with all the World Series predictions and all the old ads and all that, so I went through that and I’m just like, man, just touching that stuff with Scott McGregor and Mike Flanagan on it, and looking through all that old stuff, I, you know, I want that for the

Luke Jones 22:28
city. Yeah, yeah, I mean, we all do, yeah. So that’s where, you know, even though I’m not a Knicks fan, or I’m a Sixers fan, but you see something like that, it’s just like, wow, that’s

Nestor Aparicio 22:38
you feel complete, Casper, with this next thing, really. I mean, it

Casper Wells 22:41
helps, yeah, for the New York fandom, like, yeah, I mean, I think to contrary to what you’re saying, though, I would have liked to see the Eagles never win a Super Bowl ever, fair enough, so fair enough, being a being a die-hard Giants fan, I’m like, I’m like, no, you hear the stories and it’s great, you know, even my father-in-law, my wife’s side of the family, they’re all Eagle fans to

Howard Scher 23:03
live with it, so that, but who is someone levels for 50

Nestor Aparicio 23:07
years to hate on them, other than the team they beat, obviously, right? But, but in, you know, and they’ve won before, but in a general sense, um, the Orioles would, would, if the Orioles ever caught fire, they would be the good guys, right? Because of the town, because of the Yankees, because of the Red Sox, it would be perceived as such.

Luke Jones 23:27
Yeah, I mean, whenever you’re talking about whether it’s an underdog thing or whether it’s just a team that hasn’t won much, I mean, that’s it’s a big deal. I mean, I think back to the 90s, being a kid that grew up in the 90s, I mean, Bulls versus Knicks, some of those playoff series, and Pacers versus Knicks. Sorry, Reggie Miller, both of those. Yeah, but like, but I think about that, and you know, but, but at the same time, then you do kind of take a step back from whatever your fandom might be, or whatever rival teams you dislike. Again, just the knowing what that experience is, it is cool, you see, though.

Casper Wells 24:02
you see those guys there at the games too, and they show them all the time. When you’re watching the games, it’s similar to whenever the Mariners eventually make it to the World Series and win one. It’s going to be similar to see all those guys, because when I played in the Mariners, all they talked about was that team with the 100 winner team. They just kept talking about, and it’s like, man, guys, gotta stop talking about this, you know. They, I mean, like, you know, we’re here now, you know, but it’s like, what could have been

Nestor Aparicio 24:26
18 wins, is that the number

Luke Jones 24:28
in, oh, one rookie year, 100 something like that, just like an outrageous thing. Yeah, and they’ve

Casper Wells 24:33
never been a World Series, which is crazy. Last year, one game away, right? The Vikings

Nestor Aparicio 24:37
fans talk about Billick and 15 and one, and Randall Cunningham in that year, they, they haven’t made it either. So, I mean, and I don’t know what the Lamar thing.. there will be a generation as it goes on. It’s been, how many? Third, by the way, I got a copy of Purple Rain Two. I gave the Casper, so it’s been 13 years, right? We’re 13, going on

Luke Jones 24:54

14. I mean,

Nestor Aparicio 24:56
wow, I gave him an extra year’s going to 14,

Luke Jones 24:58
like this coming year is 14. Wow, I mean.. But all those wins, you know, when you, when your team, you know, whether you’re,

Casper Wells 25:04
yeah, I’m a Giants. Talk about the 15 years that we just had. Okay, like the

Nestor Aparicio 25:10
Giants is a winning organization. I feel like it’s like, like feeling bad for Red Sox people right now. FM, you won, sure, sure, but

Luke Jones 25:18
in those instances, my

Casper Wells 25:19
kids to be Giants fans, okay. Let’s put that.

Nestor Aparicio 25:22
So we

Casper Wells 25:22
got Harbaugh now. He’s gonna say you’re gonna be excited

Luke Jones 25:24
about John Harbaugh. Anyone here locally wouldn’t be so happy.

Casper Wells 25:29
Yeah,

Luke Jones 25:30
so but but when you end one of those, when you end one of those droughts, or when you win, like Seattle, when the Mariners, whenever it happens, it’s that sack

Nestor Aparicio 25:40
of crap at this, but not, not the Mariners are one of these teams that have never won, because they didn’t come along till the 70s, or whatever. Is there 70s?

Luke Jones 25:47
Is a long time ago, though, man. It is not. I live now. You’re

Nestor Aparicio 25:51
talking about 70s, or 10 minutes. I’m just saying,

Luke Jones 25:53
like, and it’s funny, because I think of it too, like, as a kid in the late 80s and the 90s, it’s like, oh well, the Blue Jays aren’t that

Nestor Aparicio 26:02
old, Belt Box, they got my Rod Swords. These belt buckles are 50 years old than me. I’m like, they’re 50 years old, and I’m like, it doesn’t.. it feels like five minutes ago. I bought it to KB at East Point Mall. I feel the same way, but like, so who.. I mean, let’s.. well, the Indian now, the Guardians, right? They made movies about them for you, but I’m trying to think of sad sap organizations,

Howard Scher 26:23
Maple Leafs.

Nestor Aparicio 26:24
Oh, right, that doesn’t mean anything in America, but that, I mean, that resonates to me. He’s hockey, they’re sure, yeah,

Casper Wells 26:31
because they’re showing all the, yeah, I think I remember seeing me. I mean,

Nestor Aparicio 26:34
are there any, the Knicks would have been the saddest sack NBA, other than the Wizards, but they don’t really, they’re not a relevant team, or saying like the Atlanta Hawks or something, I’m trying to think about like the

Luke Jones 26:43
Browns, you actually consider Browns when you can the Browns, when you consider what their history was going back to the All American Football Conference, and you know Paul Brown and Otto Graham and all that, and for what it’s been for as long with

Nestor Aparicio 26:59
Cleveland with the Cavaliers, are we done with that? They won, I

Luke Jones 27:02
mean, the Cavs won, but as somebody like the NFL, at the end of

Nestor Aparicio 27:07
this, as I wrap this thing up with Casper, Luke, and Howard, is Cleveland are still bigger losers than us, right? Is that right? Probably true. That is, I’ve come to that conclusion.

Luke Jones 27:16
Someone get Darryl Reiter on the phone, the

Nestor Aparicio 27:20
problem is he would agree with me with all this. He actually would. Yeah, Cass, what’s up? Any, what you’re doing out there these days, besides being the runner-up, although you’ll always be my champion for the Visionary of the Year with Blood Cancer United. And I didn’t even say LLS, but that’s what it used to be. But I’ve caught on. Kate Paris was on last week doing yoga. She was a former competitor, so you know, I do a lot, but I keep going to LLS, Leukemia Lymphoma Society. Sure, they are now Blood Cancer United, and that’s what you represent.

Casper Wells 27:46
Yeah, so I mean the campaign was great overall. We ended up raising over 110,000 so you know, for intense purposes, we want.. we won, you know. Yeah, everyone’s a winner, you know. Personal ties, my aunt passed away 20 years ago from multiple myeloma, and there’s been such advances in med and medicine and research that you know if it was this day and age still wake up with a miracle

Nestor Aparicio 28:12
every day of my life, and everybody in my world is what these guys have witnessed it, literally been a big part of it, quite frankly. So, yeah, it’s it’s it’s amazing how it touches everyone one way or another, and you’re out on the front lines raising money the next year. Who you putting up? You putting codes up next year? What are we doing?

Casper Wells 28:28
I don’t know. We got a couple, we got a couple hires in, so we might have to pass the torch on to them. We’ll see.

Nestor Aparicio 28:34
Let’s get his kid in. Let’s do the weather. Let’s go bring him in from Kansas City. Let’s go.

Casper Wells 28:37
Yeah, have him do blood cancer. Yeah, I don’t know. I challenge

Nestor Aparicio 28:40
you, Brian Co. It’s still a

Casper Wells 28:41
little fresh. We’re gonna let it, we’re gonna let it simmer a little, get through the, get through the summer, and then

Nestor Aparicio 28:46
you’ll be there, you know. Just,

Casper Wells 28:48
oh yeah, it’s Clemson, he would be there. Well, his daughter’s going to Clemson next year, so he’ll be, yeah, so he’ll be there. Oh,

Nestor Aparicio 28:55
he’ll get good peaches down there, I know that much. Luke will be here. We have been up late at night, but look at the ballpark. The Washington Nationals are in town. Howie is in morning hockey season’s over, right? Everybody in my

Howard Scher 29:09
house is a little happy.

Nestor Aparicio 29:11
Tell them about sucking ducks around here, and all things I was trying to explain to Farn and Dermer, who are our sponsors, a little while ago about all the gross grossness you sucked out of my radio station, which is true. He said, ‘When’s the last time you duck sucked? Tommy, 19. He’s like, ‘That’s a bad answer, right? Begins with a 19. It was too long ago.

Howard Scher 29:28
Yeah, I mean, they say every three to five years, depending on environmental factors, allergies. I’m four

Nestor Aparicio 29:34
years now.

Howard Scher 29:35
Has it really been that long? It’s been four years. You’re probably due.

Nestor Aparicio 29:39
How do I do that? What do I do go to talk. Where do I find you?

Howard Scher 29:42
Duck Doctor dmv.com Call us 800 955 What’s just gonna.. what

Nestor Aparicio 29:47
are you gonna charge me? Seriously, what’s you

Howard Scher 29:49
or what am I gonna charge anybody? Chase Coleman

Nestor Aparicio 29:53
called you. Would you charge him?

Howard Scher 29:56
Well, all

Nestor Aparicio 29:57
right. Somebody new Joe. So

Howard Scher 29:58
listen, the pricing. Is based on the number of HVAC systems in the home, so it’s not right pricey. You’ve got one, so the price is 655 right now.

Nestor Aparicio 30:06
All right, and you do all the rooms, no problem.

Howard Scher 30:09
Truck, but he brings a

Nestor Aparicio 30:10
truck up with a, you see, Ghostbusters number in Econ. This is a little bit like that, they don’t come in with the, you know, the slime and all that, but there was some slime involved.

Howard Scher 30:21
There was. We found some crazy stuff in people’s ducks over the years, pieces of bread that have probably been there for years.

Nestor Aparicio 30:29
What did a mouse take it out,

Howard Scher 30:31
or a kid dropped it in the vent or something, and or didn’t want to eat a bread? I would have

Nestor Aparicio 30:36
done that as a kid, but give me something with mustard. I’d put it anywhere I could put it.

Howard Scher 30:41
Let me tell you something, I learned I put it filled with preservatives, because that bread was almost edible, sitting in somebody’s ducks, like it was hard, but it had not, it did not decay at all. It was a piece of bread, it was Wonder Bread. Then, yeah, is this where you were,

Nestor Aparicio 30:55
mr. Yuck Green? You trying to gross me out?

Howard Scher 30:57
Yeah, I just wanted to stand out, because I knew everybody else would be in

Nestor Aparicio 31:01
Howard’s, my friend, he’s been my friend for 42 years. I love him dearly. Howard Chair, Duck Doctors, Luke’s with me, of course, and Casper Wells. We’re here at Green Mountain Station. It’s all brought to you by our friends at Foreign and Dermer, GBMC, and our friends at the Maryland Lottery. Howard, you want Bay Bridge? Do you want Boardwalk? Would you like.. hold on. Here, I got horses, acid. I know your daughter’s acetyleat horses, and the last one is.. I don’t.. where do my mullet? Everybody took the mollusks. I don’t have any mollusks to give you. Sorry, I don’t.. I don’t have no boardwalk. Boardwalk,

Howard Scher 31:33
I could use a vacation

Nestor Aparicio 31:35
better than Cancun.

Howard Scher 31:36
Yeah,

Nestor Aparicio 31:37
Luke,

Luke Jones 31:40
do I want to know? No,

Nestor Aparicio 31:40
you don’t want to know. The Led Zeppelin book was really good, though. You get that. And, of course, Casper, what do you did? You go horses or Bay Bridge last time? You took one or the other, didn’t you?

Casper Wells 31:50
I don’t know if we had those. Is this mine over here? Is this someone else’s? No.

Nestor Aparicio 31:53
Oh, you know what? That’s yours. That’s the baby. That’s the Blackwater. Okay, you got it right there. Yeah, take the mollusks.

Casper Wells 31:59
Kids love crabs. Since we came back here, just got all crabs, and they’re all on board for us. This next

Nestor Aparicio 32:04
day, Costas Dundalk, there you go, signing off from Green Mount Station. Baseball season’s all, World Cup’s up, Fourth of July is around the corner. Make sure you’re on the WNSD tech service, all brought to you by Cole Roofing and Gordian Energy. Luke will keep you informed whenever we get a center, right, because that’s really the story here, right?

Luke Jones 32:20
We think

Nestor Aparicio 32:21
we’re Baltimore positive. Stay with us,