Most nights, it’s mostly unwatchable. It’s been 43 years since a World Series and now into a third year of horrific new ownership that replaced a three-decade regime of awfulness has left the Baltimore Orioles franchise with plenty of empty seats, a sub-.500 record and a crisis for David Rubenstein and Michael Arougheti. We’re waiting for the grown-ups to step forward to acknowledge the current realities – and soon. Luke Jones and Nestor give a 4th of July overview of Birdland with the All Star Game, MLB trade deadline and an offseason labor car crash in progress.
Nestor Aparicio and Luke Jones discussed the Baltimore Orioles’ disappointing season, highlighting their 40-48 record and the need for significant improvements. They criticized the ownership and management, particularly Mike Elias, for failing to deliver on promises. Despite a recent 10-4 streak, the team has struggled, with key players like Ryan Helsley facing injuries. They debated the potential of players like Adley Rutschman, Gunnar Henderson, and Colton Cowser, expressing skepticism about their long-term impact. The conversation also touched on the broader issues within the organization and the need for accountability and change.
- [ ] @Nestor Aparicio – Host the Maryland Crab Cake Tour event at Fadely’s in Lexington Market next Friday as part of the WNST AM 1570 Towson, Baltimore programming.
- [ ] @Nestor Aparicio – Travel to Philadelphia to cover the Major League Baseball All-Star Game in two weeks while providing a period of time off for Luke Jones.
- [ ] Prepare and deliver a joint All-Star Game preview segment with Luke Jones during next Friday’s show.
Maryland Crab Cake Tour and All-Star Game Preview
- Nestor Aparicio discusses the Maryland Crab Cake tour scheduled for next Friday at Fadely’s in Lexington Market.
- Nestor mentions his Maryland lottery scratch ticket and his trip to Ocean City for crab cakes.
- Nestor talks about his upcoming trip to Philadelphia for the Major League Baseball All-Star game in 2030.
- Luke Jones joins the conversation, mentioning the press box at Oriole Park at Camden Yards and the air conditioning.
Orioles’ Performance and Management Issues
- Nestor Aparicio criticizes the current state of the Baltimore Orioles, mentioning the lack of belief in the manager and general manager.
- Nestor expresses frustration with the ownership issue, mentioning the half a billion dollars spent on the ballpark and the team’s poor performance.
- Nestor and Luke Jones discuss the team’s recent performance, including a victory on Wednesday and the upcoming homestand.
- Nestor mentions the need for unfiltered opinions and the lack of excitement around the team.
Historical Context and Ownership Issues
- Nestor reflects on the past 28 months, mentioning the creepy whistler guy and the disappointing outcomes since then.
- Nestor criticizes the ownership for not being outraged by the team’s performance and the lack of control over the team’s future.
- Nestor mentions the poor state of the team, including the sound system and the Nationals’ performance.
- Nestor and Luke Jones discuss the lack of interest in the team and the need for a strategy to improve the situation.
Team’s Performance and Future Outlook
- Luke Jones discusses the team’s performance over the past few months, mentioning the 10-4 stretch and the subsequent decline.
- Luke highlights the inconsistency in the team’s performance, with a record of 40-48 going into the All-Star break.
- Nestor and Luke discuss the potential for the team to go on a winning streak and the challenges they face.
- Luke mentions the importance of the starting pitching and the need for consistent performance from the offense.
Player Evaluations and Future Plans
- Nestor and Luke discuss the potential of players like Adley Ruchman, Pete Alonso, and Brandon Young.
- Nestor expresses skepticism about the team’s potential, mentioning the lack of consistent performance from players like Tyler O’Neill.
- Luke highlights the need for accountability from the players and the coaching staff.
- Nestor and Luke discuss the potential for the team to improve and the need for a new approach to managing the team.
Ownership and Management Accountability
- Nestor and Luke discuss the accountability of the ownership and management for the team’s poor performance.
- Nestor mentions the lack of excitement around the team and the need for a new direction.
- Luke highlights the importance of accountability and the need for a new general manager.
- Nestor and Luke discuss the potential for a new approach to managing the team and the need for a fresh perspective.
Fan Reactions and Future Directions
- Nestor and Luke discuss the reactions of fans to the team’s performance and the need for a new strategy.
- Nestor mentions the lack of interest from fans and the need for a new approach to engaging the community.
- Luke highlights the importance of fan engagement and the need for a new direction for the team.
- Nestor and Luke discuss the potential for a new approach to managing the team and the need for a fresh perspective.
Final Thoughts and Independence Day Celebration
- Nestor and Luke discuss the upcoming Independence Day celebration and the importance of supporting local businesses.
- Nestor mentions the Heritage Fair and the importance of supporting local vendors.
- Luke shares his favorite hot dog brand and the importance of supporting local businesses.
- Nestor and Luke conclude the conversation with a positive note, wishing everyone a happy Fourth of July.
Nestor Aparicio 0:01
Welcome home, we are W N S T A M 1570 Towson, Baltimore. Happy Fourth of July on a Baltimore positive weekend. Here at some point, I’ll get the Razor out and get myself together. I’m on a shaving strike, get to the Orioles, get the 500 I’m just kidding. We’re gonna be doing the Maryland Crab Cake tour next Friday at Fate Lee’s at Lexington Market, somewhere around here. I have my Maryland lottery scratch. I said I can’t wait to give away, because the horses Ocean City Boardwalk, Ocean City Blackwater on the road to Ocean City, and I sent some people down at Eastern Shore for some crab cakes. And then I got to get across the Bay Bridge to get there. This guy doesn’t do the Bay Bridge, he just goes straight across Pennsylvania to Wildwood, doing his summer vacation in and around July. I will be at the Major League Baseball All-Star game in Philadelphia two weeks from now, because Baltimore’s getting the game in 2030 that’s three zero. Luke Jones joins us now, he is been sweating it out, sweating it with the oldies added Oriole Park at Kansas. Although they did, they leave the AC on in the press. What’s what’s going on in the state-funded Jim Henneman altered press box that has moved toward third base?
Luke Jones 1:15
I cannot complain at all about the heat. It’s enclosed, the AC. It’s funny, I was actually joking with someone the other day about this. They cranked the AC so much that
Nestor Aparicio 1:26
you have to bring more often than not.
Luke Jones 1:28
I bring a jacket with me now. I did not wear it on Wednesday. There were a couple windows just cracked just to hear the ambience a little bit, but
Nestor Aparicio 1:39
was there any ambience?
Luke Jones 1:41
Not a whole, yeah, we went
Nestor Aparicio 1:43
earlier this week, we did, and if you’re listening out on AM 1570 or follow us anywhere, YouTube, Facebook, wherever you, and thank you for following us, we appreciate that. So, to our sponsors, Farna and Dermers got us out on the road, uh, GBMC, next Friday, Faye, please come on down, we’ll have a good time, I got some good guests, Luke and I are going to break down what we would see next Friday as the All-Star Game preview. You’re going on vacation, I’m going to Philly. All-star like to think that they could be 500 at the All Star break was not foolhardy when they’re 2345, under, when they’re not sinking, they’re in the midst of this huge homestand. They’re going to go to Cincinnati for the holiday, come back. No better place to be than the great American ballpark, but they get some graders ice cream, just a regular salted caramelly, the chocolate in that. I don’t know when we start reading rights on the team and talk about it’s time to deal Ruchman, although you open that can of whoop ass on Monday earlier in the week, um, and they’re coming off a victory as we record this, because they won on Wednesday afternoon on Scorcher, but in a general sense, the Heusly thing, where it is, I don’t believe in the manager, I don’t believe in the general manager, and more than that, and you know, Marty Conway’s going to come on next week. I know he was on with Lock and Four this week. I would encourage everybody to check that out, because I like Unfiltered Marty and Unfiltered Lock and Four, and we need more unfiltered. We need you unfiltered. We need everybody unfiltered, because this is other than you have an air conditioning and the billion dollar, you know, stadium that they’ve done there. I can’t think of anything about any of this, any of it, any of it. From the minute that I met that creepy whistler guy who lied to me, we’re going on now 27 months ago, right? I mean, it’s like 28 months ago. This isn’t Peter Angelos or blame it on Fredo anymore. This is like this is a this is a an ownership issue all the way around for their sport for the lockout at the end of the year, and no one’s outraged. We just gave these freaking people a half a billion dollars to bake the ballpark to turn home plate into a dungeon, the team stinks. Everybody’s pissed at them, even the people that like them are like free. The birds pissed, like I was when Angelo squirted me and screwed me on 30 grand. So to watch Rob Long come on every day and watch Melanie winner awards, and by the way, Ben McDonald channels Brooks, which is cool. Like, I want to say that the broadcast, because it’s a television show to me, but it’s a television show that you and I are going to watch, because what we do, people can wait. Bye, bye. We got World Cup games coming this week, US is playing, you know, like Fourth of July, Raskin’s in Delaware, everybody’s going to the beach, whatever you’re going to, you’re going to Wildwood. You could really disappear from them if you want to, dude. This is, this is horrible. This is, this is an unthinkable outcome. 28 months ago, when that guy came up to me and treated me like a huge. And being on opening day from that moment, and you’ll go back to the Philly series two years ago, and all, but this is a disaster. I mean, it is an absolute disaster all the way around, and they might not even play an opening day next year, and they’re not even in control of that.
Luke Jones 5:15
Yeah, I mean, look, we’ll get into the big picture that you’re talking about, and I don’t, can’t sit here and disagree with you, but it’s very simple. I mean, I think back to Memorial Day, as we’re now to Fourth of July weekend, and I think it was very simple at that point in time. The hope was you were going to be in a better position at the Fourth of July than you were at Memorial Day, and they’re not now. Look, I mean, we could sit here and say, okay, well, they were eight games under 500 going into that long homestand that was right around the Memorial Day weekend, and they’re eight games under 500 at this point, but that’s not the idea, and part of that is, okay, you tread water that long, you also have six fewer weeks on the schedule to get better, and you’ve also fallen further behind in the wild card race, I mean, it’s, yeah, it, this has been wildly disappointing, and you said to, you made mention of where it was a little over two years ago, you know, opening day 24 to think that they’d be in this position right now, it’s not just this year, it happened last year also, right, I mean, it’s, it’s not just a bad season. This is a new ownership year. This
Nestor Aparicio 6:23
is this is a Steve Cohen local issue for these guys to say, “Welcome to Baltimore. We’re going to make bob leds, we’re going to sit behind home plate, we’re going to act like the part, even though we’re going to come in and treat people like me like shit. And I didn’t like it, and I still don’t like it. And you know who else is getting treated poorly, everybody else. I haven’t met anybody that has anything good to say about any of this, any of it on the field, off the field, in the just in a general sense. All the money they’ve spent on making the sound system better, like whatever, the network’s terrible, doesn’t exist. They haven’t fixed that. All they did was divorce themselves in the Nationals. They’re just on a different channel. It’s got a different name. It’s two down on my dial. I don’t watch them either. By the way, Nationals are good. They’re about 500 Like, it took me a minute to realize, like, oh, they’re not a doormat. They’re like, they might make the playoffs, like, so I.. I don’t know what they’re doing, and you know what they’re not doing anything. Did you see that ad I shared last week? It looked like it looked like the Royal Farms commercials, like it’s made with AI, like it was an ad about it, was like a generic come back to the ballpark for the excitement, and picture Gunner, and like I’m getting served a paid ad on social media that, like, I don’t know what they have, they’re gonna do bobble heads, and they’re gonna do all of that, I guess, but like I can’t recommend them, you know what I mean, in any way, I’ve met Katie Griggs, thumbs down. I’ve met Rubenstein, thumbs down. I met Eric Getty, might have been the worst of all. At least Katie Griggs pretended, and Rubenstein wanted to give me an autograph. Albernaz comes across on TV like this is a bad show. I mean, it’s for the fans here for trying to sell baseball tickets to people in Middle River, just all of it, just I don’t, I just all of it, and you’ve been out there sweating it out. Nope, nobody’s going to the games. I don’t know what they’re going to do, like I’m trying to, I’m bitching great, I’m done bitching now. Let’s get a strategy. What are they going to do?
Luke Jones 8:40
They’re not winning, and like I said, I’ll continue to come back to you. Can give away all of this or all of that. You can dress up the ballpark however you want. You can even fix Massen, right, which isn’t really a thing, because regional sports networks are going away. Greg Bader
Nestor Aparicio 8:55
on, but we’re gonna put Greg Bader on to fix, but it
Luke Jones 8:58
still comes back to what I said to you. I don’t know if we said this on the air or we were just talking in general, because you know, from time to time, you and I will just talk shop as far as where the team is, where the franchise is, but you can do all those other things. It’s like having a restaurant that has great atmosphere, and you might have good live music, and this or that, but if the food’s not good, you’re not going to go back, right? I mean, like, you’re just not like you might visit it and check in every from time to time, but you’re not going to make that a regular part of your rotation, so to speak. So, the only
Nestor Aparicio 9:34
$20 I’ve ever spent at Camden Yard, since the Free the Birds literally was on a heritage barbecue sandwich, my wife was hungry at that Astros game, and it was delicious. It was great, and
Luke Jones 9:46
that’s good. Hey, that’s a good thing. I like my friends at
Nestor Aparicio 9:48
Heritage Barbecue. Get down on York Road, support them before they move.
Luke Jones 9:51
They need more of that, certainly, too. Right? I’m not, I’m not, I’m not suggesting those
Nestor Aparicio 9:56
sandwich I’ve ever had in my life at Camden Yards.
Luke Jones 9:58
I’m not suggesting those things. Aren’t important. I’m not suggesting there isn’t value to that, but again, at the same time, it’s a professional sport. It’s a professional sports brand. They are charging
Nestor Aparicio 10:10
a premium number.
Luke Jones 10:12
Sure, I did see they’re doing a promo here for the month of July, where what they’re doing, 1776 for tickets, which, okay, great, but
Nestor Aparicio 10:24
is this where I wish one Yankee Doodle Dandy, or just ask out, come after, but
Luke Jones 10:27
who, but who wants to come watch right now? Like, if we’re just other than if you’re getting a bobble head or a floppy hat or a Hawaiian shirt or whatever, because the product’s poor. I already got a Hawaiian shirt, far enough, there you go, it looks great. You go, but I mean, I think you know, just to bring it back to the field here in the here and now, looking at the micro a little bit. I mean, this was the stretch where they had 12 of their final 15 before the all-star break at home. They had beaten the Dodgers two out of three, even though they had, they had the hiccup then in Anaheim, which was a disappointing end to the West Coast trip, but it wasn’t a disastrous West Coast trip, but you’re thinking, okay, you’ve got six against the Nationals and the White Sox, who, yes, are both better than the Orioles, but they’re not juggernauts, this is your chance, and then you go to Cincinnati, and then you’ve got six more before the All-Star break. If you can rip off a, I don’t know, eight and four, nine and three, you’re within striking distance of 500 at the All-Star break. Now you’re in a position after you lost the series, lost the series, felt really bad in the process, even on Wednesday when there was nothing to complain about on the field, I mean, Dean Kramer was good in his return, Tyler O’Neill, of all people, was a standout performer, and you’re saying, okay, there’s at least a shred of optimism, Ryan Helsley, his elbow’s hurting again, right, and even if we’re not going to talk about the worst case scenarios, even if this is another, hey, inflammation, like back in late April, well, he missed seven weeks in
Nestor Aparicio 12:04
pictures, dude,
Luke Jones 12:05
right? I mean, no, but I’m just saying, even if he’s not, even if we’re not going to talk, I’m not going to recklessly speculate that, oh, he’s definitely going to have Tommy John surgery, he might pitch
Nestor Aparicio 12:14
on Wednesday, and he’s probably not going to pitch next Wednesday, well, that’s probably, that’s the thing,
Luke Jones 12:18
right? I mean, he just came off of a seven week layoff for elbow inflammation, he would was only back on the roster for two weeks, and now he’s his elbow is bothering him again, even if it’s another minimum seven weeks, that takes you in the late August at that point in time, right? That, and that’s probably the best case scenario. So, getting late early,
Nestor Aparicio 12:38
Lucas, it is getting late, it
Luke Jones 12:40
is. I mean, and look, is it over over yet? No, of course not, because we know the state of the American League, but you are very much starting to tread into the territory of without having some kind of long winning streak, you know, winning nine in a row, winning 10 in a row, ripping off, I don’t know, 13 of 15, something like that. That’s where it’s really starting to really start to look at, and they’ve fallen back in the wild card race, even. Right? I mean, they had fallen, they were nine games under on Tuesday night, they had fallen back to five back from the final wild card spot. And also, oh yeah, you also have four or five other teams ahead of them in that race, so yeah, it’s getting late in that regard, it really is. And I think, for me, the optics, I mean, it’s more than optics, they’ve just played poorly, right? They’re 40 and 48 going into this, they don’t hit well, they don’t catch well,
Nestor Aparicio 13:32
they pitch okay some of the time, but, but even just pitching has been better than most of it, quite frankly. I mean, the one
Luke Jones 13:38
area that’s actually been pretty darn consistent over the last six seven weeks, their rotation has been pretty darn solid, actually. I mean, and Dean Kramer now replaces Trey Gibson, who, you know, Gibson was awful on Tuesday night, you know. They’re, they’re starting five. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying it’s elite by any stretch of the imagination, and they’re gonna have to figure out Braddish in terms of his workload. I mean, like, you know, I don’t think he’s going to throw 180 innings, right? I mean, I, I don’t think he’s going to be in a season where he’s
Nestor Aparicio 14:06
taking the ball august 18 and they’re eight under five under. I don’t, well, well,
Luke Jones 14:11
I’m talking in terms of, right? I mean, I agree with you there, like, if
Nestor Aparicio 14:14
this thing goes the wrong way, they had a
Luke Jones 14:17
little bit, you will use off on the gas, but I’m talking, I’m trying to lay out the scenario for trying. If they’re gonna try to
Nestor Aparicio 14:24
stay in it, they’re gonna have to wear him out, but the road ready every fifth day and get seven, but their rotate, not the rotation. That’s the one part of this that even with the injuries that they had with Eflin, with Kramer missing as much time as he did with Bassett being bad, and then now being absent, their rotation sits the mid may 20, right around then. Go look where all of the trauma the Brandon Young’s and the Dean Kramers have done enough to bail them out. Like me, Brandon Young’s been one of their most valuable players, right? I mean, he’s been a while. Surprise, you know, say something here. I want to honor my father, because, and maybe your dad used this term. You said, man, if they rip off a 13 and two or 12 and five, like if they played that well, I would say to you back in March, that’s not over their head, my dad over their head, right? That, like you said about Tampa back in May, they played over their heads in April, like they’re, you know, they’re not going to play 700 ball, and they might not, but I look up, they’re still better than the Yankees over, you know, more than half the track, you know, we’re coming around the backstretch now here, right, and I look at the Orioles and think, what is over their heads, like if they played 12 and three, you and I would say, oh, this is all that potential they’ve been talking about. We have so much potential, potential, potential. We have 10 guys, potential 30 home run guys. We have, you know, six guys that can steal 30 bases. We have, you know, anybody can catch the ball. I mean, they can’t make any case to me for that, but they, we can run, we can hit, we can. Situational cows are going to come around, Ruchman has come around, Gunner’s Gunner, he’s a bear craft carrier, like all of the things that Jackson Holiday’s a one one, of course, he’s going to hit 429 for three weeks, and we’re going to go on a tear, hit six home runs, and you know, look like Robbie Alomar in August or something like that, like I wouldn’t say it’s over their head to catch fire, because I’m the idiot to believe they were going to win 92 games for all of the names you gave me. Now those names were Basset and Eflen, not Kramer and Young and Gibson, right? Right, but either Gibson, Bob, Kyle Kyle, any of the Gibsons, Stan, Sam, any of the Gibsons I know, but for me the over their head part is probably the part that’s so disappointing because you and I still sit here and believe that these particular players, even Tyler O’Neil, you said something, because he had 31 runs two years ago, it’s not like it’s not these aren’t major league baseball now, Kobe Mayo, Jackson Holiday, some of these guys that have never really done it at all. Okay, I mean, I’ll hear that, but in a general sense, to think that these guys could all come on, that Colton Kauser could go back to being Rookie of the Year and be a better player, an ascending player, that Mayo could turn it on, like any of these guys. There’s a lot of potential here, there’s a lot of talent here. So, therefore, the over my head thing, or over their head thing, I don’t know, it wouldn’t you, and I wouldn’t have felt so weird with Housley healthy with a full arsenal, not Westberg, but the rest of this, we could look at this and say, yeah, when they were playing great back early June, was it when did they go on their little run that they were, it was right, eight and three, whatever it was. Well,
Luke Jones 18:01
you’re going to take the wind out of my sail here a little bit, because the point I was just going to make about them is they had the 10 and four stretch. Remember, they came home from the sweep down at the top and they were eight under that, and they came home may 22 I think. They just played
Nestor Aparicio 18:15
10 and four, and you and I were like, well, they’re not this good. Well, like, but hey, finally, you know,
Luke Jones 18:19
right. Well, but, but here’s my next point. They had the 10 and four stretch, and you’re saying, all right, you’re back to two games under 500 Now this is where just start playing more consistent baseball. You don’t have to rip off like you don’t have to go 15 and two, just win two out of three, split win two out of three. Right, I mean, like, do that well, since that 10 and four stretch, Nestor, they’ve gone nine and 15, and they’ve won one of their last eight series, the Dodgers series. I mean, that’s literally the only series. If you would have
Nestor Aparicio 18:52
told me that a month ago they were going to go nine and 15, I’d say on the fourth of July they’re going to be reading last rights to them at Fade, pretty close next Friday, or just to do football.
Luke Jones 19:03
Yes. Hey,
Nestor Aparicio 19:03
man, it’s football season. I mean,
Luke Jones 19:05
so
Nestor Aparicio 19:06
who’s their all-star, by the way? I tried to.. I had Seth Elkin from the lottery on. He and I were goofing around because he loves baseball. He’s a Pirate Suffering Pirates fan. Like, so you know, every year he’s like, that’s my problem. Every year we never knew who our all-star. And I’m thinking this is a year where I literally looked up and down the roster, and I thought, Who’s truly worthy?
Luke Jones 19:24
Yeah, I mean, like, look, are there a couple guys having good seasons? Sure, I would say Adley Ruchman would be in that conversation. He’s missed a lot of time, though, right? I mean, he’s had two IL stints, and now one of them is a concussion. I’m not blaming him for that. That was a freak thing that happened, but you’d look at Ruchman, he fits the suit. I mean, I would also.. could you make look.. would I make the argument that Pete Alonso has been one of the two best first basemen in the American League? Probably not, but his numbers are at least representative to the point where we know every team has to have a rep. You could, you could take Pete Alonzo, right? Heck, while we’re at it, I mean, Brandon Young’s pitched so well. Why not say Brandon Young, right? If we’re talking about guys that you just have to take, you know, you have to take one. So, but, but, but just to go back to what we were just talking about for a moment, and you talking about the merit of can they go on a run, can they get white hot, you know, not just red hot, but white hot for two or three weeks. I don’t think so. No, I don’t know. I don’t believe
Nestor Aparicio 20:30
you stopped believing a month ago. Here’s what I would say, right?
Luke Jones 20:33
Here’s what I would say. It’s baseball, so I would say yes, but then you know what I would fully expect right after that, a similar crash and burn, right, because we just, that’s what we just witnessed over the last six weeks, they had a really good stretch, the kind of stretch they needed, and now they’ve completely fallen back, right back to where they were, only now there’s six fewer weeks on the calendar to make up pay, right, to to get better, to narrow the gaps, so 800
Nestor Aparicio 21:00
in May is not eight under in July,
Luke Jones 21:02
that’s that’s what I’m saying, right? You know, like you can sit here and say, okay, well, they played 500 balls since then, well, that’s not the goal, right? I mean, that, that was kind of my point last year, when remember, they got off to such a horrible, horrible start, right? I mean, from late April through the third week of May, they were an absolute disaster, that’s why Brandon Hyde lost his job from that point on. They played okay baseball, you know, in a vacuum, sure, but that wasn’t going to covet, right? You, you can’t just take out those first 50 games, that’s not how this works. So you look at it and say, all right, since may 20, they’ve played 500 baseball. Well, yeah, but you can’t, you know, you don’t get to just cherry pick the good times and and take out the bad times, so, so that’s what I would say to that. Are they capable of going on another 10 and four stretch? Let’s just leave it at that. Yeah, of course, because we already saw it, it’s baseball, but at the same time I kind of look at the full body of work, and it’s not just that they’re eight games under 500 but look at the look at their schedule over the course of the season. They started out, now you know, March they were two and three, April 13 and 13. So let’s just put those two months together, so they were 15 and 18 in March and April, May 13 and 16, June 11 and 16. I mean, there’s nothing trending up in that when you look month by month, got big, they got worse, they were worse in June than they were in May, right? So I mean, you just look at this thing and say what’s going to be consistent enough for them to really go on the kind of run that they need at this point in time. I’ll hear the starting pitching, even with the what we acknowledge with Bradish, right, in terms of probably needing to massage his workload a little bit here or there. You could talk
Nestor Aparicio 22:57
me into Braddish Rogers, this good enough, you could put the defense,
Luke Jones 23:01
but the defense, no, I mean, other than Colton Cowser and Adley Ruchman and Pete Alonso, their defense not even close to good enough. The bullpen, now Helsley, we assume is at least going to go back on the IL, even if he’s not out for the year. Who knows what’s going to happen there? Keegan Aikens on the IL, so not that he’s been a big part of their high leverage picture, but you know Rico Garcia has trended in the wrong direction over the last month, right? So the bullpen doesn’t feel strong enough on top of the defense being woeful, and let’s call a spade a spade, and I’ve talked about this a lot, going back to the beginning of last year, their offense isn’t consistent enough, just isn’t okay. They had a nice day on Wednesday, but look at the course of this home stand, right? I mean, they had some, you know, boss was pretty darn good on Monday night. I get it, the defense and the bullpen melted down late. They didn’t score runs in that game, though, right? I mean, they go look at them over the last couple of weeks, where we’ve talked about them falling back, their offense has been inconsistent at best. Are you going to suddenly have that lineup from, and you know, not that you need all nine guys in the lineup to hit, but you need more than one or two. Are you going to get that consistently for three weeks, or whatever, you know, big run you have left in you, if you have one in you, that’s where I just, I look at this thing, and it just, it just feels lacking in way too many areas, and that’s before we even get into, you know, some of what you’ve talked about in terms of the big picture items and the organization as a whole, but just doesn’t feel good enough. How about the optics, you know, we haven’t even touched on this yet, but how about the optics of everything that Mike Elias said on Saturday? Right, talking about going for it, wanting to be a buyer, all of that. Say what you want about Michaelias. You and I have had plenty of things to criticize. Neither one of us has a high opinion of him moving forward, and, and whether he should. Continue, you know, anyone in this organization at this point, you know, not just him, but Sig, and go down the list of all the lieutenants and everyone in the front office. But how about the idea? Just think about this in terms of the here and now. He gives his team a vote of confidence, saying, I still believe in these guys, I still, you know, I’m still planning on buying, I still think this team has what it takes to make a run. We’re still right there in the wild card picture. And what did this club proceed to do then? Immediately they lose four games in a row. I mean, at some point in time, look, accountability starts with Elias and ownership by, you know, by, you know, because they’re his boss ultimately, but at some point in time they just got to go out there and play, right? Look, do I think the Orioles have the best coaching staff in baseball? No, no, I don’t think that. Right, at the same time, you can’t tell me that every single team and every single player in baseball needs to have the absolute best coaching, or he’s going to be woefully inadequate at what he does at some point in time. Doesn’t the talent have to play right at some point in time? Doesn’t the talent, doesn’t the cream rise to the top? I mean, my goodness, I mean, we, we, we talked about this a lot with Lamar Jackson, right, earlier in his career. I mean, with Greg Roman, and whether Greg Roman was good enough, and talking about Greg Roman hitting his own ceiling in San Francisco, or in Buffalo, or with the Chargers, most recently, but Lamar, Lamar Jackson was still an MVP quarterback with Greg Roman as his OC, right? So it speaks to the fact that Lamar was such a great player that even if he didn’t have the absolute best coaching, it didn’t matter, because he was so great, right?
Luke Jones 26:39
So I’d look at this and say I’m not going to give the players a pass here either, right. It’s fine if you want to make Mike Elias the biggest culprit. I would agree with that, because ultimately the buck stops with him running baseball ops. At the same time, there aren’t nearly enough individuals that you can identify right now as being part of the solution, right. Who exactly like, let’s say right now, hypothetical exercise that the Orioles move on from Michaelias, you know, by the end of the season, you know, and let’s put up, put the lock out, all that aside. We’re just talking in terms of new general manager coming in, identifying what needs to be fixed? Identifying who are, who are your pile divers, to use a box show, Walter expression from years back. Who exactly are the pile divers on this team? Beyond talking, okay? Well, they, Pete
Nestor Aparicio 27:33
Alonso’s one, he’s
Luke Jones 27:35
under contract, right? He’s under Henderson,
Nestor Aparicio 27:37
better be one. Well, Ruchman was a one one, holidays a one, one of all the guys in the world, you pick them to be your pile divers. Dog, come on now. Like, and Elias is running this show. This is,
Luke Jones 27:50
but who’s proven themselves to look? Pie Alonso is going to be here the next four years.
Nestor Aparicio 27:54
Proven pile diver, none of them. I have people writing to me saying they should be fighting on the field back after getting head hunted a couple of weeks ago with the Blue Jays, or everyone, like, like, in a general sense, that this team isn’t tough, like, I ain’t playing all that, because I, you know, if they gave me a press pass, I’d have to go in and tell Peter Lonzo, he’s not a tough guy, you know, like, but they don’t, there’s nothing about them, they don’t, they don’t impress me, and I’m individually you’re talking about pile divers. If I had to start a team from scratch right now, we had to start the whole thing from, forget the money, forget money bags, and Rubenstein, and Araghetti, and Elias, and Brady Anderson, and John Angelos, and Dan Duke, anybody was involved in any of this,
Luke Jones 28:44
right?
Nestor Aparicio 28:44
Because Dean Kramer came through the Dan Duquette school, right? Like, forget all of that. Let’s play the role of John Harbaugh going into the Giants, and let’s be..
Luke Jones 28:54
yeah, that was kind of my point. Like, let’s go in and say
Nestor Aparicio 28:57
what’s here that we like, and what’s here that we don’t like, and I’ll tell you what. If they hire you and me, they’re going to hire somebody like you and me, somebody from the outside.
Luke Jones 29:10
Boy, they’d be in trouble if they hired us.
Nestor Aparicio 29:12
Oh, if they hire you and me, no. But if they hire you and me right now, we would have our opinions, having witnessed, watch this. Just I’m watching on TV, you’re watching with our media pass there at the ballpark. What do you take? What do you want for the next three years for your baseball team, and at what cost? Okay, I mean that Kyle Bradish at 28 million a year. I need him. I give Brad,
Luke Jones 29:43
Brad, it should be, I believe in him. Yes. Okay, yeah.
Nestor Aparicio 29:46
Rogers, not yet. I’m gonna go to the market. He’s
Luke Jones 29:51
in a walk here. Yeah, I’m gonna go to the
Nestor Aparicio 29:52
market with that money.
Luke Jones 29:53
Yeah.
Nestor Aparicio 29:54
Um, Brandon Young’s done enough to make me real pleased to think like me. Hey. Hey, I feel
Luke Jones 30:00
like he would be my new Dean Kramer. I’m hoping that would be, that would be my vision, that would be my vision, as like my number four, number five starter, right? I don’t even want to
Nestor Aparicio 30:08
talk about relief pitchers, because they’re disposable. I mean, no offense, I mean, I just Garcia, I don’t really know
Luke Jones 30:13
who, I don’t really know, I mean, hypothetically, if you could tell me, Felix Batista, when you become the
Nestor Aparicio 30:20
Mike Flanagan and Jim Duquet of the Operation or Jim Beatty of the Operation, you, when we’re the two-headed monster, we’ll have a discussion about the bullpen, but let’s table that till Monday. Well, we’ll talk about that after the holiday, but in a general after Jackson Holiday. How about Jackson Holiday? How about Posio? You want Besayo? I’ll take Posio, but he’s going to be a first baseman or DH, like, yeah, I’ll tell you that right now. Give him anything you want. He’s 21 years old. I’m looking at him. He’s already fought with the manager about something that nobody seems to know anything about. It might have, you know, I don’t know. I’d take Posio, and I’d have to take Bisayo if I take the team over, because we’re getting his contract either way. But, like, I don’t, I wouldn’t take Colton Kauser. I wouldn’t take Adley Ruchman. We did a whole segment on that the other day about his age and where he is. We’re stuck with Alonzo, but I wouldn’t take him. I wouldn’t start, especially with Pasayo and first base, like blocking first base for five years with all that money. It wouldn’t be my choice. It wasn’t anybody else’s choice. This was the team that gave him all the money, he, you know what I mean. There weren’t five other teams banging on him saying play first base for under $50 million This franchise needed Pete Alonso, or thought it did. Thought it did on and off the field. Good guy, like all they needed that, right? I don’t know, dude. I wouldn’t take Kobe Mayo. I don’t know that I’d take Jackson Holiday one, one over again. I know you would, bitch about taking Rhett Ruchman. You, you bring up Bobby Wick, because it didn’t – you would have taken someone else. I don’t know if I had to start the team again. I, there’s five or six guys, seven, you know, they’re a handful of guys here that I really would begin from scratch, no strike, flat line, you and me running the team. If I really walked in and said, Who do we really think’s going to be in the lineup in 2020 878 end of next year if we’re good enough? I don’t know, man, that I’m down on the talent in a way that I was up on the Bassetts and Ephesians and Helsley’s, and you know that sort of thing that was going to mix in with superstars, super holiday, Ruchman, Henderson, superstars, Alonso, import a superstar, right? That’s what this, that was the formula for this. That’s not where we are, dude. Not even close. Not,
Luke Jones 32:39
yeah, I mean, look, not gonna sit here and say that there aren’t some decent ball players in this group, right? I mean, a lot of the names you just mentioned, I
Nestor Aparicio 32:48
love plays out, he can play on my team, you gotta have items, guys, but,
Luke Jones 32:52
but to your point, Who are you excited about moving forward? Bisayo, look, he still has some maturing to do, and I’m not even necessarily talking about whatever went on with him, and do you just
Nestor Aparicio 33:06
went on between him and Albert Nestor? No, I know I’m looking at you. No, you know something. No,
Luke Jones 33:12
I really don’t, because I’ve heard some conflicting stuff. I, I think he’s young. I think he has a lot on his plate. I think I’ve even looked at, and there have even been some analytics, you know, some some nerdy looks at this kind of stuff. It’s a pretty challenging thing for a young player to, dh a lot, like we think about it in terms of, like, oh, well, you’re just chilling in the dugout, right, and, like, you know, it’s one thing if it’s David Ortiz type who does it, because, like, that’s kind of his only choice, right? You know, you burn your glove, Harold Baines at a certain point is Martinez, but I think for someone who’s 21 and being in a position where he’s catching a lot, but also DH-ing, and like there’s more to that than you think, in terms of just the challenge of that. I just think there’s a lot on his plate. I think he’s really talented. I still would bet on him to be a really impressive hitter. I would
Nestor Aparicio 34:18
take him, right? I mean, I’ll take him, but I’m saying he’s not gonna be, he’s not gonna catch for me three years from now. I mean, I would
Luke Jones 34:25
say this, not
Nestor Aparicio 34:26
gonna be a 25 year old catcher, and if he can’t be a 25 year old catcher, what’s he gonna be? We’re not inventing positions here.
Luke Jones 34:32
I would say this, I don’t think I would say he’s not going to catch, however, I’m not going to say that he’s going to catch 130 games a year, he would be, he would be my number two catcher, like a well-defined, okay, he’s going to catch
Nestor Aparicio 34:47
48 games once or twice a week, right,
Luke Jones 34:49
and he’s going to play first base four or five times a week, right, that would be, he
Nestor Aparicio 34:54
doesn’t like, is that what I’m getting at, I mean, I don’t, not serving him well, I mean, I don’t
Luke Jones 34:58
know if it’s that he doesn’t like. Like it, I just think it’s there’s been a, there’s a lot for him that’s going on, catching at age 21 in the majors, in and of itself is challenging, the amount of study you have to do for it’s so much, man, hitters even more so than 2030 years ago, and I
Nestor Aparicio 35:15
don’t know that fans really, I was a catcher when I was a kid, my dad wanted me, I mean, that’s sure, like, like, no, I’m just saying, right, that’s not the same, right, it’s not the same, I’m just saying, when I caught, I played short, like I loved catching, because you were in the game, and once I started catching, I didn’t want to not catch, beyond even I got beaten up, and you know, yeah, it was, I was a wussy kid, I’m not lying, you know, but there was mental
Luke Jones 35:40
prep, you know, like, yeah,
Nestor Aparicio 35:42
I’m just saying, I caught as a.. and then I covered baseball for 25 years, and I knew Jeff Tackett and Chris.. I didn’t realize it then, dude. It’s wild, that’s what I’m saying to you. Yeah, is Johnny Oates was a manager and was a catcher. I was in his office every day for three years. I covered baseball for 25 years. I sat and talked to Tony Gwynn and Doug, and I did it. I respect it more now than when Angelos took my press pass 20 years ago, because I know how analytical the game has gotten. How that it’s not everybody’s out, ass chasing, grabbing, drinking all night, boozing up, doing all the stuff that I remember 30 years ago, because the game has changed dramatically for homework and study, and Luke, I would tell you this, because I know we’re rambling, it’s Fourth of July, but when the football team got here and Marvin took me out for that seminal moment in his office, where he had these three ring binders, I mean, the giant binders with the Steelers defense, and he just coached in the Super Bowl, and he threw it down 1996 This is okay. This is spring of 96 So this is Angelos owns the team. The Orioles are going into their own. They just hired Davey Johnson. They had a meltdown with Regan. We’re through the strike, Ripkins threw the streak in this, in the streak. Robbie Alomar is coming. We’re about to get really good. Camden Yards is nuts. I’m at the ballpark every night. We barely have a football team. When the football team came, and Ted was an old senile man at the time, you know. No, everybody loves, knows I love Ted, and he was 1958 Johnny Unitas, kind of football, Marvin was. Oh, we have these laptops, and Preston was so impressed by Brian Billick that he called him Compu Coach, which was always his looking down upon technology, which is speaks through Mike Preston, is who I’m not a fan of, but nonetheless, 25 years later, 30 years later, when I covered sports from 96 when I was syndicated at the turn of the century, I was in and out of locker rooms, basketball. I always thought basketball had some science about it, in a way that 11 or 12 guys and the locker room drawing up on on boards, and when coaches would come and huddle, and they would draw a play in basketball. Baseball didn’t have any of that. I covered baseball intimately, much more intimately than really I ever covered football. I’m talking about four in the morning and setting up in Fort Lauderdale, being there, never shown up at Owings Mills, and been there at five in the morning, and been there all day, every maybe training camp, but like in a general sense, the work day of a baseball player, and it was striking to me, Luke. So, you were 12 years old time, and I’m doing a little not get off my lawn, I’m doing what I’m built to do as a 60 year old four decade sports radio host is teach people something that I got taught the hard way, which is ignorance, right. And in 1996 I remember I may have said this on the air here when I got the station around that time, 9798 It was astonishing to me how intellectual football was in regard to how you thought they were just big dumb athletes, couple years of college, big dumb guys, and whatever, and they spent 98% of their time in a classroom or in study before they had iPads, before they had that sort of technology. Football was always working off film. Football was working off film in 1965 You go back and watch NFL films, they, you know, they had reels and film in North Dallas 40 and studying film, studying film. First guy to ever study film in baseball was Tony Gwynn on a little VHS machine in the back while he’s hitting 370 or whatever, because it just wasn’t done. There was a film room and some guys would go in and look at it, some guy, old school guys, I don’t need to see that. I don’t even want to see that. I’m Aubrey, off C ball, hit ball, shit hole. So, I mean, that was 15 years ago, that wasn’t far back.
Nestor Aparicio 39:50
Modern baseball, and you know who blew my mind, and I know you know this, Jack Del Rio’s best friend in life was a baseball manager who I befriended. And he spent hours with me, he, I mean, we spent time together in modern baseball, and he brought me up to speed, and Gary Kendall, and people that I know, that like, oh no, no, this isn’t, we’re smoking cigarettes and drinking coffee in the pitcher’s coaching room the way it was 30 years ago, and coming in hungover, and Davey Johnson shows he’s the last guy to show up in the clubhouse, which pissed Angelos off, because he didn’t feel like he had anything to do, now play golf all day, now he played nine holes today, because it was 100 degrees, I mean, that’s what baseball was 30 years ago, it ain’t that anymore,
Luke Jones 40:31
no,
Nestor Aparicio 40:32
at all, at all, at all, at all, and that really the catcher position of all of that, I think back and scratch my head, what would they.. what would Johnny Oates, who was a catcher, or any of those managers back in the day that Bob Melvin types, right? That, that played in that era. Why
Luke Jones 40:49
so many of them become managers, right? I mean, they’re they’re the worst. I mean, and think about as
Nestor Aparicio 40:54
being another one of them, right?
Luke Jones 40:55
But, but think about Bisayo, and I don’t.. I’m not saying this to make an excuse, this is to just think about it in these terms, the amount of prep you do as a catcher, you need to know 13 pitchers on your staff at any given time, and really you need to know everyone on the 40 man roster, right? That’s a pitcher, because we know in modern baseball someone could be caught, you know, Josh Walker’s caught up because you need an extra bullpen arm, Robert Suarez is DFAd and resigned, and he’s back, right? I mean, like, all that kind of stuff that goes on, but you need to know all your pitchers, you need to know all 13 hitters for whoever you’re playing over the course of that night, and righty lefty
Nestor Aparicio 41:30
matchup,
Luke Jones 41:30
all that kind of, you’re all product, you know, every pitcher’s repertoire, how it plays, what are the trends, what what hitters hit, what pitch becomes
Nestor Aparicio 41:40
very exponential when the count’s two one and you’re trying to figure out, I got a lefty righty matchup, I’m in the seventh inning, it’s 112 freaking degrees out, they’ve gone through, I just got my nuts hit with a tip, a foul tip, right, like, yeah, I’m over three today, and I was just gonna say, see the ball, like, and now it’s the eighth inning, I got two guys on, it’s two one, a relief pitcher comes in, we’re going to sup in a lefty righty matchup, I dude, it is really, really complex, so I love that, that was my long-winded way of saying boom to that to a 21 year old kid who you expect to be Johnny Bench or think like Jim Palmer or Ben McDonald are thinking in the booth while we’re watching the game,
Luke Jones 42:25
right? And you have to know all that. And now, granted, they have bigger coaching staffs than they used to have, right? And they are helping with all that prep, but there’s all that. And then, oh yeah, that guy who’s a catcher, especially if you’re talking about someone like the Orioles catchers, who are expected to be a meaningful part of their offense as well, they need to know the 13 opposing pitchers that they’re going to come up and potentially hit against over the course of nine innings, right? So it is, it’s a lot, and that’s a lot different than thinking of B being with Jeff Tackett 35 years ago,
Nestor Aparicio 43:00
and him just I gotta catch some bullpen, yeah. I mean, like, it just felt like no, and I love tack, I loved all those, but it, and they didn’t have a small job being a catcher at night. I mean, there was still advanced video, and just all of the information exposed. Cats want to download onto a catcher, and the expectations that Colton Cowser is going to be ready for anybody to come out of the bullpen in any circumstance. When, when you, they start platooning these guys, it fs them all up, because then they just don’t see a right hander, they don’t see a left hander. Yeah, how do they get better? How do you get all of that? Well, we don’t need you to get better, we just need you to get your, you know, well, hey, I want to get contract. Oh, you’re a part-time player, so I don’t know what happened with Posia and Alvarez, which is where all this began. But I’m with you, Posia will be one of the guys that I would take, but they don’t have enough guys on their team that I would take to think that they’re an ascending franchise in any way right now. In any way, they don’t mean they don’t smell that way.
Luke Jones 43:57
I mean, they’re guys I would take, but who am I really excited about Bisayo. I’m still excited about now he’s got things he needs to continue to get better with, and part of what you just said, I actually think he’s looked better as a catcher. I’ve seen growth there, you know, not not talking about the Albernaz thing, like Justin’s probably
Nestor Aparicio 44:15
working really hard at it, that’s what I’m saying, right? So,
Luke Jones 44:18
so I see an aptitude there, and that’s why I said, want to give up on him as a catcher. I don’t know if I ever see him as a catch guy who’s going to catch 130 games and be the guy behind the play. You might
Nestor Aparicio 44:29
not want him to be that guy, because, because that
Luke Jones 44:32
has the upside, right? I mean, I can think back to when Matt Wieters was drafted, right? I mean, we’re going back almost.. it’s hard to believe Matt Wieters was drafted 19 years ago. Think about that for a second. That’s kind of wild to think about, because I remember that so vividly. But remember, there was such a thought and such an expectation for his bat that never materialized, mind you. But the idea was, well, if he hits and he’s at everything that the Oreo. Want him to be, and everything the bat never profiled in a way that would have justified him playing first base. Frankly, Adley Ruchman’s bat hasn’t really shown the consistent ability that would make him all move him to first base. Bisayo, I think, has the power potential that you see at age 21 acknowledging everything we just mentioned that’s on his plate, where you just say, I don’t know, in a vacuum, if you make him a first baseman full time, he might be a guy that hits 35 he might be Pete Alonso from the left side of the plate, right, so, so that’s where it’s a little bit different, but
Nestor Aparicio 45:40
he is, by the way.
Luke Jones 45:41
I mean, very well. I
Nestor Aparicio 45:42
would, I would think he’s gonna hit 35 home runs, but not as 135 game catcher,
Luke Jones 45:50
probably not. I mean, it’s so difficult to do that. My goodness, I mean, like, you’re talking about, I mean, even Hall of
Nestor Aparicio 45:56
Famer, if you do, I mean,
Luke Jones 45:57
Cal Raleigh did it last year, you know, Cal Raleigh did what he did last year. Is Cal Raleigh going to do that every year? Well, we’re already seeing the answers no this year, because you know he’s been hurt and hasn’t been as good, but, but, but, yeah. I mean, just to go back to the to our overall exercise here, you know, are there guys that take, of course, like, like for example, and you and I’ve talked about this guy a lot the last couple years, I see Colton Kauser still as a useful major league player, right? He’s a good defensive outfielder, I think a platoon bat, fine, but that’s not what they drafted him to be, right? I mean, that’s not the fifth overall pick of the draft. What your vision is in terms of big picture, look, I think I think Jackson Holiday is on his way to being a solid major league player. I’d be lying to you, though, if I, if I see him like an
Nestor Aparicio 46:49
aircraft carrier,
Luke Jones 46:50
I’d be lying to you if I’m seeing him flash the kind of traits that say, oh wow, that’s the 110 my goodness, in the way that, and I know this is an unfair comparison, because this guy’s very well, probably on his way to the Hall of Fame. Manny Machado, at age 20, was not the guy that became an MVP candidate eventually, but you saw traits right away where you said this guy’s got some special talents. I don’t see that in the holiday, and I hope I’m wrong. Look, I have no agenda against him. We’ve been watching for a
Nestor Aparicio 47:21
year and a half now, and I feel similarly. I feel that way about Craig Albernaz as being the next Earl Weaver as well, and not that everybody has to be the next Earl Weaver, but I don’t, I don’t see it. Yeah, I just, but I just,
Luke Jones 47:35
by just as a whole, though, looking at this team, and this kind of goes, I’ll leave you with this, and it’s the point I made a few minutes ago. Look, the buck stops with Elias. I think everyone is on a very similar page as it pertains to that. We’ll see if ownership is on that same page, right? But I think everyone who’s watching this is acknowledging this hasn’t worked for two years now, and you’ve changed variables, and you’ve changed some variables, and you brought in some different players, and you have different coaches, and a different manager, and it still feels broken, right? For whatever the.. and I don’t think it’s one reason, I think it’s a number of reasons, but I just, you know, I look at this thing, and again, Mike Elias on Saturday, he gave those were words that I think were meant for it inside the clubhouse as much as anyone to say we still believe in you guys, and then they lose four in a row and looked bad doing it, you know, doing the things that we’ve seen them do, bad teams do, man, that’s just getting booed at home, you got anything on that? I’ll say what I always say about booing. Look, in a vacuum, do I think there’s anything all that constructive about it? No, not really. Can I sit here and blame anyone? I’ve watched the same product everyone else has the last two years. Bands are frustrated, I understand that, because it goes back to it wasn’t a contract, but it kind of felt like a contract, right? When Michaelias arrived, he didn’t mince any words. He acknowledged this is going to be ugly for a while, and everyone understood that at that point in time in 1920 21 right? Everyone understood that wasn’t easy to watch, my goodness, it wasn’t easy to watch, but I think we understood that, and there was a thought that there is going to be a payoff coming, and we thought it was coming because of draft picks and farm system rankings and top 100 prospects, and all those different things, and it looked, looked like it was coming to fruition for about two calendar years. It was fun, you know, midway through 22 through that that day at Yankee Stadium in 24 that was a fun time. I said, disappointment aside, parking
Nestor Aparicio 49:45
lot of Planet Fitness, two and a half, two years ago. I said, this is the best, the best the team has ever been, the franchise, and, and Rubenstein had just taken, like, all of that. He was just Angelos was gone, ding dong, the witches, yeah, like it was. Yeah, and then it’s over,
Luke Jones 50:01
but, but I think, because that ended up being so fleeting, I think fans, there’s a bit, there’s a sense of betrayal that’s felt, that like you guys didn’t live like this isn’t what was advertised, this was supposed to be pain, pain, pain, and then prosperity for a long sport,
Nestor Aparicio 50:20
you can’t guarantee that
Luke Jones 50:21
you can, you can’t, but at the same time, if you’re going to crash and burn, you get healthy consequences. Yeah, here’s the code,
Nestor Aparicio 50:29
right here.
Luke Jones 50:30
So, you look at this thing, and it’s fourth accountability,
Nestor Aparicio 50:33
booing empty stadium, all of that, that’s the accountability,
Luke Jones 50:36
no doubt. So, we’re gonna look, is it over, over yet? No, but boy, we’re it’s feeling like Ove at this point in time. If over were a game of horse, right? I mean, look, I see
Nestor Aparicio 50:49
Lamar Jackson, he’s right there. He’s, he’s, he’s, he’s right there.
Luke Jones 50:52
We are, what, three and a half weeks, four weeks. I want you to put your toes
Nestor Aparicio 50:57
in the water. Are you hot dogs or hamburgers on the floor? What do you,
Luke Jones 51:02
I mean, I love both. I’ll have some of both, but
Nestor Aparicio 51:05
all right. Good,
Luke Jones 51:06
I’ll tell you what I like. No, to address this, this is a, this is more of a PA thing. Smoked hot dogs with the casings,
Nestor Aparicio 51:16
half smoke, smoked, smoked, they’re
Luke Jones 51:18
smoked hot dogs, like there’s a brand I don’t, I don’t want to give free advertising, but there’s a brand, a local brand that I love, that’s my favorite hot dog in the world, the smoked hot dogs, it’s Secret Frank’s, yeah, yeah, it’s good, I’ll have to hook you up sometime, just so you can try it and see what you think, because it’s my favorite hot dog,
Nestor Aparicio 51:39
some of us haven’t had the free press box weenies lately, so Luke Jones is here. It’s Fourth of July. Hope everybody enjoys their hot dogs and hamburgers. Sorry, the Heritage Fair is not this weekend, was last weekend, because that’s sort of my jam, being the Dundalk guy all these years. But stay cool out there. I am wearing my Farnham and Dermer gear here in the American Standard heating and air conditioning gear, because, like, it’s hot as Hades, but the good news is, if anything happens, it’s one phone call, same day service, 410 36777 Zach spent some time with us last week at Green Mount Station, you’ll hear him out here on the air and find him in the good looking orange shirts here that dresses me nicer than Greg Bader dresses Kevin Brown. I’ll tell you that right now, we are WNST AM 1570 Towson, Baltimore. We’ll be at Fadely’s next Friday, and then we’re going to give Luke some time off, and we’ll send me to Philadelphia for the All-Star game. Let freedom ring Fourth of July. Happy 250 America! Woo hoo!
