The Kiss and tell of a generation of us being recruited into the KISS Army fifty years ago

It all started with KISS Alive. And here we are five decades later telling rock and roll stories, concert tales and how the music we love still keeps us going. Former Section 513er and fellow rocker Ed Stylc drops by our 28th Anniversary music celebration for a little KISS and tell with a side of Cheap Trick and modern ways to enjoy the old concerts and the best daze of our childhood.

The discussion used Ed and Nestor’s shared music history to frame Nestor’s 28th-anniversary project about memorable concerts and influential bands.

Anniversary Project

• Nestor is developing a 28-band series based on artists that shaped his life, with KISS as the 28th selection.
• He is also compiling concert memories and ticket records into a spreadsheet, with the total number of shows still uncertain.
• The project emphasizes personal stories, archival tickets, interviews, and experiences rather than a strict ranking.

Music Legacy

• Ed described discovering KISS through KISS Alive, later attending a meet-and-greet that included a front-row experience for his family.
• Both discussed rising ticket prices, aging performers, tribute bands, restored concert footage, and preserving performances through home archives.
• Open questions: How many concerts has Nestor attended, and how should undocumented shows be counted?

• Produce the 28-band anniversary music series over the next 14 weeks. (@Nestor Aparicio)
• Create a master spreadsheet approximating the total concerts attended by December, using available tickets, photos, and other records. (@Nestor Aparicio)
• Send links to the AI-generated Kiss and Def Leppard songs. (@Ed Stylc)
• Add the Journey concert from 25 years ago to the concert records. (@Ed Stylc)

Anniversary Focus

• Nestor’s 28th anniversary centers on 28 influential bands and concert memories.
• KISS was selected as the final entry, prompting discussion of childhood fandom, merchandise, albums, and live shows.

Concert Histories

• Ed recalled his first concerts, including Ronnie James Dio and KISS, and identified Cheap Trick as the band he has seen most often.
• Nestor shared memories involving tickets, press access, interviews, and thousands of concerts.

Changing Concert Culture

• Ticket prices have reduced repeat attendance for major tours.
• The conversation covered diminished performances, tribute bands, AI-generated music, and professionally restored archival footage.

Preservation

• Both favor maintaining personal concert archives for future listening and viewing.
• Nestor described plans for a future home theater focused on concert films and recordings.

Nestor Aparicio 0:00
Welcome home. We are WNST AM 1570 Towson Baltimore. We are Baltimore positive. We are positively here at Custis in beautiful Dundalk. This is the place to come to get crabs if you’re in Timonium. They don’t have crabs, but they have big fat ones here. My hands are kind of in good shape right now. I may be ready to crack some and lower the boom. It’s all brought to you by friends at Maryland Lottery. We’re doing the Maryland Crab Cake Tour. I’ve been giving away some lucky winners here at Costas. Also, our friends at GBMC and Farnin and Dermer. We’re into our 28th year celebrating here. We got football in the brain. Luke’s going to be out at training camp all week. If you’re on the WNST Tech Service, you get all of our breaking news first. It’s all brought to you by Cole Roofing and Gordian Energy, and I’m celebrating my 28th anniversary. 25th anniversary, we did crab cakes. I did a crab cake in every county in the state. 26th anniversary, we did 26 oysters all over the state. 27th anniversary, I did all of my favorite things to eat, which including here cost us would be the oysters Rockefeller or the stuffed mushroom caps, which are crab imperials, unbelievable. That’s the best. God, I haven’t eaten breakfast yet. Ed Stilk has been my friend and 513 seat mate, original PSL holder. So I guess I’ve known you 30 years. Is that right?

Ed Stylc 1:13
At least.

Nestor Aparicio 1:14
All right. So and listener to WNST, but more than that, Ed’s a rock and roll guy. I run into Ed at concerts and different stuff, and we had him on earlier in the year, just talking about the the old times of Section 513 and the fun we had, R A V E, all that. But at the end of the day, as we get older, I know you gave your PSLs up. We talked about this last summer together. You gave your PSLs up. I got thrown out by the vice president or whatever the hell he is over there at this point, and I have, I saw one of my invoices from the last year. It’s like $3,400 for Ravens tickets or whatever. You know what I was paying, and I’m thinking, well, I haven’t gotten that invoice now. This is the fourth or fifth year. I don’t even know that I’ve been thrown out.

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Ed Stylc 1:54
Always came at the worst time too.

Nestor Aparicio 1:56
Well, either way, and and look, the Ravens have been good, right? At least when you’re paying, you’re not paying for the Cleveland Browns, true. Or you haven’t had Orioles season tickets for the last 25. You know what I mean? Like, really, you look at the Orioles, you say, “I’ve spent how much money with the Orioles? And like, they haven’t won anything. At least the Ravens have won, and Lamar. So get some joy out of it, okay? I mean, like being a Wizards season ticket holder. Can’t imagine. Other than watching the other team, if you’re there to see Shaq play or LeBron or whatever concerts, however, it’s gotten more pricey. There’s no question. As I have my old tickets here, they were 889, 90, and you know whatever they were, $11 at the

Ed Stylc 2:36
11 bucks was my first concert.

Nestor Aparicio 2:37
Yeah, I I would say music when it’s done well, and we both have been to concerts that have been. We don’t want to see Motley Crue right now. You and I actually talk about whether is this in its primers is it Mickey Thomas doing Starship right now worth driving to Harrisburg for? Yes, absolutely. Or is it Vince Neil playing the Heritage Fair that I, you know, I’m not going to. I’ll stay here at Costas and you put the old, but there really is a point for music where it. I know you. We’re not best friends. We know each other. We text back, but music’s a huge part of both of our lives in a way that you would say, “Well, Nestor’s a sports guy or whatever, but somebody else say, “Well, Nestor interviewed Paul McCartney in 42. I

Ed Stylc 3:19
knew you was a music guy first,

Nestor Aparicio 3:21
really?

Ed Stylc 3:22
Yeah, Baltimore Sun.

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Nestor Aparicio 3:24
Really?

Ed Stylc 3:25
Yes,

Nestor Aparicio 3:26
because you were music guy ahead of a sports guy, or both? It’s both. It’s both. A fella came by. But

Ed Stylc 3:33
you know what? Maybe it is music first because all my life, if the Orioles win or lose, or if the Ravens win or lose, I survive, but if it’s that concert that I have to see, I go see it. It makes sense. Concert would take precedence

Nestor Aparicio 3:47
over a ball game.

Ed Stylc 3:48
Yes,

Nestor Aparicio 3:48
in your life always. So for me, I kind of agree with that. But as I’m doing this research project, and this is my son might be here a little later on too. He has a he’s on a lot of concerts with me when he was little, and seeing a lot of these seminal bands, these top 28 bands that I’m doing for the 28th, and the 28 bands. Just so I’ve been very unclear about this, but in my writing, I haven’t been. The next 14 weeks, I’m going to do 28 bands, and they’re like the overall arch of these incredible memories I have with these 28 art and lots of bands that you might think haven’t made the cut. I’ll tell you some bands that didn’t make the cut: Cheap Trick, Triumph, Journey, REO Speed. They didn’t make the cut. They’re not top 28. See, they

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Ed Stylc 4:31
would have made mine.

Nestor Aparicio 4:32
And I know this about you: you’re going to be shocked by some of these top 28. And and here was the criteria. Actually,

Ed Stylc 4:40
I’m not because you have a little bit more of a wide open variety. I have a wide open. My door’s a little bit closed. Yours is wide open. Mine’s open a crack.

Nestor Aparicio 4:48
Okay, fair enough. Like you probably weren’t an REM guy or later

Ed Stylc 4:52
on once. Okay, first team

Nestor Aparicio 4:54
college Rocky. At first, no. But then

Ed Stylc 4:56
when they start, what’s the frequency, Kenneth, and the monster album? They started. Rocking with the with the electric guitars, I’m like, ah, what was I missing here? So I am now.

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Nestor Aparicio 5:04
Well, for me, the the lanes of the music and all this stuff that I’m doing, I just wanted to share. I had Leonard Raskin on earlier, and I picked up a ticket, any just a random ticket,

Ed Stylc 5:15
yeah,

Nestor Aparicio 5:16
and I started telling stories. Everything in here, I remember almost. I mean, this is this is a ticket, but this is only through late 2002. This is not the the modern stuff’s all in this box, and these are the ones where like the tickets were. You had to print them out and fold it all over, and

Ed Stylc 5:34
now you don’t even have that happen. But this is

Nestor Aparicio 5:35
all like total modern stuff here. So I have all every one of them has a little bit of a story, and I’m trying to like my clone has been very helpful in helping me develop what might be interesting about 35 times I’ve sat in the front row as an example. I wish I could know that. Or 35 times that I’ve seen the 35 best international shows I’ve seen, the 35 best Baltimore shows I’ve seen, the best regional shows. Like, so I have all of these 35 lanes for my 35th anniversary being on the radio. That’s December. But these 28 bands that I’m going through, they are the bands that have defined most of my life. Most of them are older artists, but not all. the The belt buckle thing only 11 of the 28 had Pacifica belt buckles, so 11 of them are

Ed Stylc 6:27
for

Nestor Aparicio 6:28
before 1979. Right. So the 17 other bands are speak to through my life more the 90s and the aughts and John Mayer and things that I’m more obsessed with as I’ve gotten older, but the fact that Rush could get on a stage in L.A. I could fly out, see them in the first night, and wind up like sobbing three different times during the concert. Yeah, I don’t know that I thought I had that in me. I’d

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Ed Stylc 6:57
have been sobbing when I saw the bill for the ticket. No, I didn’t. I

Nestor Aparicio 7:01
didn’t. I see, but that’s you’re you’re coming at it from a different lane, and you know better. You know better. We buy late. We buy cheap. Yes, we do. We’re that guy. We just did recently. We did. We’ve done many times together. Even ELO, we did a couple years ago. Thanks for that, by the way. I still owe you. But I would say that the pricing out of Springsteen, Taylor Swift, the Eagles, the Stones bands. I mean, I remember Barbra Streisand toured. I thought it was too much. A $75 ticket. Well, you know what’s done to me never to such a thing.

Ed Stylc 7:32
It hasn’t prevented me from going, but whereas I might go to see see the same tour four or five times, now it’s once.

Nestor Aparicio 7:38
Right. So if I paid $500 to see Rush? I would have only gone once. Yeah, sure. I’m not paying $500 to see Rush. Therefore, I’m going to see them several times, right? Even from a good seat or a bad seat, that doesn’t matter to me. But what does matter to me that as I feel like I have to get good value, I walked out in New York. I was at the New York Fourth Rush Show. I was in the lobby, and tickets went to 350 bucks, and I just walked out. I’m like, I’m just, I walked out. I’m like, I’m not getting. I went that high

Ed Stylc 8:05
once, and that was the kiss meet and greet back in 2010. All right, but my my wife worth every penny, worth every penny. Right, did not know I was going to be in the front row center. Had no idea, and then the fact that my daughter was in the kiss at age four, she’s gonna turn 21 now. So you got

Nestor Aparicio 8:23
picture of her with the oh

Ed Stylc 8:23
yeah, I got picture of Paul Stanley holding her.

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Nestor Aparicio 8:26
Oh, dude, it’s

Ed Stylc 8:27
crazy.

Nestor Aparicio 8:28
So Kiss is my number 28 band, and what’s your Kiss story? Did you where did you come in on it? Destroyer, Rock and Roll, I

Ed Stylc 8:37
can tell you that very very simply. Now you got to remember, this is like 1975, 1976.

Nestor Aparicio 8:42
Perfect with May 6. So, so

Ed Stylc 8:43
I started off, you know, when I graduated from my Sesame Street, now from the Chipmunk albums, I started getting stuff from my parents. For

Nestor Aparicio 8:50
me, it was it was the Partridge Family.

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Ed Stylc 8:52
Okay, separate kind of thing. Then I started. I’m going to lead into Kiss, but then I found in my parents’ collection Elvis Aloha from Hawaii. Perfect. I dug that, and I found Neil Diamond Gold live from the Troubadour.

Nestor Aparicio 9:05
Perfect.

Ed Stylc 9:06
Awesome stuff. And then my parents started to see that I was getting into some popular music, and and my cousin boy, he would like Kiss. And first I had a KTEL record called Mindbender, and Rock and Roll All Night was on there, and it was the studio version. I went to my cousin. I

Nestor Aparicio 9:23
think I own that. Yeah, it

Ed Stylc 9:24
was a cool one. It had like Rocket Man by Elton John, and the I owned it. Yeah, it was.

Nestor Aparicio 9:28
I own that album, that Koto album. That was a

Ed Stylc 9:30
badass album.

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Nestor Aparicio 9:31
Go ahead. All right, so anyway, mind ben. I’m gonna look that up. Go ahead.

Ed Stylc 9:34
So I’m all proud with this, and I it had

Nestor Aparicio 9:35
like Moonlight feels running on it. I

Ed Stylc 9:37
believe so. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Nestor Aparicio 9:38
Did I think it had War or

Ed Stylc 9:40
war was on.

Nestor Aparicio 9:42
Still the one, maybe. I’m

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Ed Stylc 9:43
not sure about Oracle. All right, I’m gonna

Nestor Aparicio 9:44
look that up. I’ll keep, dude. Can we have the same experience? Isn’t that crazy? It’s crazy. So anyway, I go to my

Ed Stylc 9:49
cousin who’s two years older than me, and I said, “Look, I got Kiss, and he and of course, Rock and Roll Night, the studio version, is not the hit; it’s the live version. He goes, “No, no, you almost made me cry because I was really little.”

Nestor Aparicio 9:59
The album, dude. I found it. I mean, the internet’s so awesome. It’s amazing.

Ed Stylc 10:04
That’s it. That’s that’s the album

Nestor Aparicio 10:06
right there. The Mind Bender. That’s it right there. All right. All right. Cool. Cool. Cool. Go ahead. I’m gonna get all the songs off the back end here.

Ed Stylc 10:12
So anyway, he tells me no. I

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Nestor Aparicio 10:14
believe in miracles. Yeah. Where you from? Oh, yo, you sex a thing. Fifth grade. No rider was on there. Bad

Ed Stylc 10:21
Blood by Neil Sadak has got to be on that.

Nestor Aparicio 10:23
10cc, I’m not Love. Love roller coaster. Oh yeah, it is. That’s the way. Uh huh. Uh huh. I like it. S O S Abo’s on this album.

Ed Stylc 10:34
See what I mean? It’s everything. Do you know the song

Nestor Aparicio 10:37
that I loved on this was Convoy? Rock and we got a big old convoy. Oh yeah! All right. So good. Lady Marmalade was so I

Ed Stylc 10:47
killed that album, you know, and then I decided my my cousin told me I had to have Kiss Alive, so I just rode by where I got it. My parents took me to the Dundalk Kmart on North Point Boulevard, went in there, and they had Kiss Alive, but they also that’s

Nestor Aparicio 11:00
where I bought my first 45s. Was at North Point Boulevard came home. Yeah, they

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Ed Stylc 11:03
had a good record. Record greatly. Yeah,

Nestor Aparicio 11:05
and a good sub in the back too. That big sub that they had, the cold cut. Yeah.

Ed Stylc 11:08
So I’m in there, and then the other the other one I had in my hand was Kiss Originals, which is very rare now. Was the first three albums all packaged into one. Probably should have gotten that at the time. It didn’t come

Nestor Aparicio 11:18
with the hard sleeves. It came with paper sleeves.

Ed Stylc 11:21
Exactly. I

Nestor Aparicio 11:21
own that,

Ed Stylc 11:22
so I shouldn’t have had that. I still remember not getting it. In retrospect, that would have been the one to get, but I got Kiss Alive, and that’s where the Kiss story started with me.

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Nestor Aparicio 11:31
I was in my cousin’s attic on on Tyndale Road, over by Koco’s, right where Sig lives, right by Koco’s, where Mayor O’Malley lived, and in his attic, he had Kiss Alive, and two albums, and we dropped it. We we listened to a lot of songs. We listened to Elton John. We listened to Cher. We listened to yeah. We we listened a lot of music as kids, but I’m six seven years old, and my cousin who’s older than me, and I admired him. Gave me Kiss Alive. He gave me his copy of Kiss Alive because it had a scratch in it, and his parents bought him a fresh one for Christmas. So he gifted it to like his little brother, me. I brought Kiss Alive home, and it was just over. I mean, it was that and Fonzie, right? 1975, 1976. The lunch

Ed Stylc 12:19
boxes and everything. The struggle

Nestor Aparicio 12:20
came out right, and then they were so good at merchandising, right? Because inside inside of the album was a mail order catalog that you could order belt buckles or tattoos. Do you remember that game? Do you remember

Ed Stylc 12:33
the Gatefold Double Platinum?

Nestor Aparicio 12:35
Sure, I owned the Double Platinum album. Did

Ed Stylc 12:37
you ever open it up and they had the four face and tried stickers and stuff? Yeah, but you could try to put your face into the silver one. It was

Nestor Aparicio 12:44
mylar. It was mylar. Yeah, yeah, I own that. So I always

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Ed Stylc 12:47
did that. Was trying to put my face into theirs. That dude, if it

Nestor Aparicio 12:50
said K I S S on it, I wanted to own it.

Ed Stylc 12:53
Yeah, and the problem was I I was you know my parents had to buy things for me, and they wouldn’t understand it. I had a live, and then yeah, going back to get the studio albums, he’d be like, “You already had that song. Yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly. I was getting see, I was getting like pissed off just thinking about that. No, I don’t. There’s extra songs on there I want to hear. They eventually relented, and I think the first one I bought on my own was Dynasty in ’79.

Nestor Aparicio 13:14
My dad, my pop, I remember this vividly. We sent away. I was so disappointed. I didn’t tell Paul Stanley this when I had dinner with him because he kind of made it right. You know what I mean? Paul Stanley bought me dinner and hung out with me all night. He made it right. You know what I mean? It’s good. But my dad ordered me a jacket for my birthday or Christmas. It was something real. Like I’ll look it up for you and show you how it was really not very masculine. Let’s start with that, and I’m 10 years old, right? So it was not the most masculine Kiss jacket, but it was a Kiss Army jacket that was a kid’s jacket that came out of the catalog. It wasn’t

Ed Stylc 13:52
the pink one, was it?

Nestor Aparicio 13:53
Yeah,

Ed Stylc 13:54
I know it. I think I know what you’re doing. Yeah, sure. I mean, pull it

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Nestor Aparicio 13:56
up. Yeah, I mean, there. Yeah, it is the pink one. This is it. Yep, that’s exactly. It was made of Tyvek. This is the jacket here. Okay, I mean, hey, I would love to have it now. Kids had a word for that that’s not politically correct right now, but like, yeah, it’s a $165 item. Yeah, it was made of like. I don’t want to be funny, but like what a lambskin condom would feel like.

Ed Stylc 14:25
Okay,

Nestor Aparicio 14:25
like it had this thin. I don’t know what else to call it. Did you

Ed Stylc 14:30
have to order it? Yeah, yeah, it came in the mail,

Nestor Aparicio 14:33
and when it came in the mail, it was like the it was like the Ralphie when he had the Ovaltine. You know, he got it. You’re like, oh, oh, yeah. It was it was when I got it. I’m like, I’m not gonna wear this. This isn’t even cool. You know what I mean? So my dad put it. How

Ed Stylc 14:49
many times has it happened in your life? You get something and it’s like, oh my! My dad

Nestor Aparicio 14:52
was so he knew I must have been disappointed. So he would always say to me, like. Kiss doesn’t know you’re alive. They don’t even know who you were. Kiss doesn’t like put some food in your belly. You don’t need to spend money on Kiss. You know my dad would say. And then later on in life, when Paul Stanley was nice to me, I’m like, Kiss does like me. Kiss knows who I am. Kiss was okay. Now,

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Ed Stylc 15:12
did you get to go to any of those early shows like the ones at the Cap Center? I didn’t either. All right.

Nestor Aparicio 15:16
So Ace was here earlier. Ron Ron West from my band and Duran band, Cultivated, plays it. Ace, one of my best friends ever. Ace came here about two hours ago, and if you go watch the segment, he brought his ticket stops, and he they’re all folded up in his pocket. I’m like, dude, you’re freaking me out. You’re like taking baseball cards and bending them. Don’t do it. He sat here. He comes over. His tickets. The first ticket was the Kiss ticket from the Alive to 77 Christmas, Peter Chris’s birthday, december 20. He went to that Piper Open for that show. Like to me, that’s a holy grail ticket. And that

Ed Stylc 15:51
was impossible. I didn’t get to go to that show. I my parents didn’t know anything about it. But we did know about the Cap Center in 79. Problem was my parents. That was

Nestor Aparicio 16:00
Dynasty.

Ed Stylc 16:01
Yeah. Okay. My parents never traveled. This is-I’m not-I’m not kidding you. We had never been south of Ocean City, never west of Frederick, Maryland, and never north of Hershey until I was in college.

Nestor Aparicio 16:11
Okay.

Ed Stylc 16:11
So the Cap Center was my parents didn’t drive. We never went to the Caps. That wasn’t happening.

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Nestor Aparicio 16:16
Yeah, it didn’t. My first Cap Center show was ZZ Top in the summer of 1980. I

Ed Stylc 16:23
was kiss in ’88. It

Nestor Aparicio 16:24
was the first time I ever heard the song “Highway to Hell” in the parking lot. Remember, you think crazy things, but like people are tailgating, smoking weed, drinking real parking lot. It was totally like the Capitol Center was a thing, and I went to CZ Top there, and then I saw Rush after that, September 26, 1980. So there you have it. You know, see the Diaguelo tour for ZZ Top for me at the cast. My

Ed Stylc 16:45
concert thing started way later than you would think because, like, my dad would take me to Oreo games in 1975 was my first Oriole game. Colts around the same time, and then Civic Center. I went to like a Skipjacks or Clippers game. I think. But

Nestor Aparicio 16:57
dads didn’t take you to concerts. No, dads weren’t cool. He

Ed Stylc 17:00
took me to wrestle. Dads were not cool on the latest. The only one had cool parents was Brian Poole.

Nestor Aparicio 17:04
Brian Poole’s parents took him to Springsteen on the River Tour and stuff. You know what I mean?

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Ed Stylc 17:08
Yeah. Like

Nestor Aparicio 17:08
I, my parents, my parents camped out for AC/DC for those about to rock tickets at the Heck Company downtown, and they got eight tickets. Ace, Ace was here. He had one of the tickets. My friends all have the other tickets. The matching. I have seat three. They have seat four from 1981, 82. Right. So we have the tickets. Ace brought them out. But like, so your first concert was

Ed Stylc 17:33
Ronnie James Dio 1985 at the Civic Center.

Nestor Aparicio 17:37
Man, man, you missed on all the priests and all the maiden. You missed them all. I did,

Ed Stylc 17:41
but check this out. I walk in there, and and he comes out, and there’s the fire-breathing dragon spitting fire, and this massive stage show, and I’m like,

Nestor Aparicio 17:51
holy dive! I’m sitting there. How

Ed Stylc 17:52
did I miss out on this? Every show like this turns out they weren’t, but and then Kiss, I finally saw on the Asylum tour a month or two later. I’m going

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Nestor Aparicio 18:00
to admit something to you that I’m going to have to admit to my clone and to the to the audience. My first concert, if you were to ask me, I would have said it was Stix at the Arena, february 8, 1980. But it’s something

Ed Stylc 18:12
not as admittable.

Nestor Aparicio 18:15
I’m going to admit it right now because he’s cool, and Gigi certainly had a crush on him. I mean, there’s no question, Sean Cassidy, Sean Cassidy, right? I mean, you had it for Sean, right? I mean, he’s a Hardy boy for crying out loud, right? My

Ed Stylc 18:28
wife may have gone to that show. I’m not positive. So

Nestor Aparicio 18:31
I had a seat in section 328 in the first row because we went to the wrestling matches at this point in my life. So he’s going to that, and I went to hockey games. I knew the arena, and I thought the best seat is going to be in the back where nobody’s in my way. So we bought tickets, and the tickets were the little tickets from the Civic Center in the ’70s. Okay, still have some, and they had sparkles on it. They had like like a wedding invitation would have put sparkles all over. They had sparkles on the ticket. Sean Cassidy, I don’t have the ticket. I I I wish I had the ticket. I mean, I worshiped the ticket when I had it as a kid. I don’t know what the hell happened to it, but I had. Yeah, considering

Ed Stylc 19:06
you’ve got all these,

Nestor Aparicio 19:07
but I had the ticket, and I went, and I’ll never forget it. I tried to get Sean Cassidy on the show last year when he was at Ramshead, but it was really sold out. He didn’t need to do the show, but if Sean Cassidy came on, I remember everything about it. Had this big hula hoop circle with a shadow box. It was a shadow box trick, right? And when the lights went down, Sean Cassidy was behind the shadow box, and it was like Sean Cassidy. You know what I mean? And he and I broke,

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Ed Stylc 19:33
and it was a big crowd.

Nestor Aparicio 19:35
Or oh my, sold out. I was at the matinee because it was like a Beatles show. See, that was one of the. I think he played four shows. I think he played Saturday and Sunday, two and seven. You know, until

Ed Stylc 19:44
I started going to shows, I thought everything was sold out because I didn’t know it was very,

Nestor Aparicio 19:49
very. It was a big, big show, and he played seven. I found the Baltimore Sun review of it and all of that when I went to look it up, but he was behind this. All the hoop of a and and the shadow, and he did when I was 16 at six school. Rock and roll. That’s rock and roll. That the song, and he did Hey Deanie. Right, those were his hits. I wouldn’t

Ed Stylc 20:11
know. I know, but he was on

Nestor Aparicio 20:13
Tiger Beat. He was on 16 and Christy Christy McNichol. Yeah, all the pretty girls. You would see those in the supermarket. Yeah, when you’re the Cheryl Teagues, they were all that, but they were right next to Sean Cassidy and Leaf Garrett, right? So it was all kind of, and the Fonz and Richie Cunningham, and like it was all intertwined, like pop culture, 1975, right? Which is to your point that Kiss was on an album with all of these other artists, right? Because that’s the way we grew up. That’s the way AM radio was right, and

Ed Stylc 20:41
that’s why I never separated the music. I didn’t know what one band was hard rock or one was whatever. I mean, just music. I didn’t

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Nestor Aparicio 20:47
know disco sucked until somebody told me Casey and Sunshine. I mean, it was disco because I thought it was rock. Yeah, I didn’t.

Ed Stylc 20:53
I I had a little bit of a feeling when I saw my parents practicing dance moves the Saturday Night Fever out. They were doing the hustle. Yeah, whatever. They were doing hustle, you know, whatever. They

Nestor Aparicio 21:01
were doing a hustle,

Ed Stylc 21:02
so but but but the other thing too with the with the music, I’d be in the back seat of the car, young and and Casey Case of American Top 40, all those yacht rock songs that they that they call now. That was all my childhood too. Count them down, right? Right along with Kiss was all that stuff.

Nestor Aparicio 21:17
Ed Stoke is here. He sat with me at Section 513. He’s one of the dudes I know that loves music as much as I do stays up on concerts, sends me YouTube’s the morning after Rush breaks out some song they haven’t done since 1981, and we have a good time together. You you you haven’t you’re not a memorabilia guy or you have you collect do you collect things kiss things and like that or no?

Ed Stylc 21:38
Not so much kiss things, more sports memorabilia. Oh, you’re

Nestor Aparicio 21:42
okay. So music isn’t a memorabilia thing for you. Sports now, it’s more

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Ed Stylc 21:45
hoarding concerts off of YouTube on my hard drive.

Nestor Aparicio 21:49
You’re experiential.

Ed Stylc 21:50
Yeah.

Nestor Aparicio 21:50
Okay. Yeah. So I have. I mean, I do

Ed Stylc 21:53
have an autographed Paul Stanley guitar.

Nestor Aparicio 21:55
Well, my wife and my son know this about me, and this is this happened with the stop making sense reissue in D box. The Talking Heads movie came out two years ago. They re-released it in IMAX and in D box. So D box is the seat that moves and has haptics. It has 200,000. So the seat moves with the movie.

Ed Stylc 22:20
Where would you go to see

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Nestor Aparicio 22:21
Arundel Mills?

Ed Stylc 22:22
They have that. Okay,

Nestor Aparicio 22:24
I went on a Friday when it was released because I had never seen Stop Making Sense. I had never seen the movie, the the David Byrne, right? I went that day. I was the only one in the theater. Literally, it was 11 o’clock on a Friday morning. They only screened it like five times. They screened it Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, and that was it. I hope they do the George Michael movie. Did you go to the George Michael 88 Faith tour?

Ed Stylc 22:43
No, that wouldn’t be that would be door closed on that kind of thing.

Nestor Aparicio 22:47
Total top 25 ever show for me by far, and they’re re-releasing it in IMAX december 11. Go with your wife, take her, go watch it. He was incredible. He was just incredible. So, and I reviewed that show, and I have ticket like, but like of that era and finding concerts and old stuff that stopped making sense. That I did that day. I got there. Have you seen the movie?

Ed Stylc 23:12
No. I went and saw the Oasis movie last night.

Nestor Aparicio 23:16
Was it good?

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Ed Stylc 23:16
It was good, but I was disappointed. They like each other now.

Nestor Aparicio 23:19
Yeah, it was a little more anger. Better when they look back at Andrew. That’s

Ed Stylc 23:23
more fun, but no, it was good.

Nestor Aparicio 23:24
So this movie was made in 1983, 84. Stop making sense. It’s the original movie, shot at the Pantages Theater in L.A. and filmed, and but the seat moved, and the film itself is very artsy. It’s probably the artiest concert ever made. Did the movement work with the video? It was unbelievable, dude. I’m in the seat, and the movie starts with him with a boombox, and he’s doing the seat just started to jiggle a little bit. And they the the way the movie works is they move Chris Francis’ drum set in. It’s like a it’s like an an inact oompa loompa thing where they put the stage together during the show. It starts spare and it ends as a Broadway kind of. That’s when they get to burning down the house and all that action’s going on. But it starts as nothing, and then the drumbeat kicks it, and the drum kicked me in the back. Like it kicked me when he when he hit the, and I’m like, and then and then you started to dance, and it started to move. We’re on the road to nowhere. So the whole thing was like experiential.

Ed Stylc 24:29
That’s where the artist is going to be going. I

Nestor Aparicio 24:31
dragged John Allen and my pal Resig, two artists. Resig loves the Talking Heads. John just went because he likes me. Truth. I don’t. You know, his movie, whatever. Sometimes

Ed Stylc 24:42
you just got. And I told

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Nestor Aparicio 24:43
him how great the experience was on Friday. We went back on Sunday. I missed the first quarter of the Browns game two years ago doing this,

Ed Stylc 24:50
right? Because it was 11 o’clock. Music over sports.

Nestor Aparicio 24:53
I listened to the first quarter in the car. Listened to Jerry Sandusky for the first time in my life call a quarter of a football game, and I did it on the west side of the. Literally, this is what I did. I taped the game and I came back. I dragged them down to do it, and they sat on both sides of me. And what happened in that second show was what happened to me. I caught him giggling because it was like a joyride of a concert that you’re in. I didn’t know you didn’t exist, and you’re. And all I could think about is that’s what I’ve been to the Sphere twice, and the Sphere is more of a mind screw. You know what I mean? Like it’s so much going. I think that would freak. It’s immersive and it’s movement. You almost want to fall out of your seat a little bit. It’s a little. It’s a little weird, but concerts in my basement on a big screen that I can now spend $900 and get a 90 inch screen that fits the whole wall. And taking your archives of concerts that are appropriate. I can watch Tom Petty from 1978, or watch him from 1994, or I can watch Jimmy Buffett, like in Margaritaville. You go to Margaritaville, you get fat Jimmy, skinny Jimmy, hair Jimmy. You know, and

Ed Stylc 25:57
one of the reasons I’m hoarding concerts like this is because they’re going to be gone. Jenny’s not playing anymore, so I’ll still have that.

Nestor Aparicio 26:03
Well, that that is gonna be my old age thing. Literally, same thing. Is I’m going to build a movie theater that’s gonna be a concert hall for me. I

Ed Stylc 26:12
kind of have any time

Nestor Aparicio 26:13
I want, and I’m gonna dance, sing, play air guitar. Nobody’s gonna talk when John Mayer’s singing Comfortable with the Garden after I paid $200 to see it, yeah, and nobody’s gonna piss me off, and I’m gonna oh because because we

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Ed Stylc 26:25
both know, and when I’m eating pudding, and I lose my mind concerts when I

Nestor Aparicio 26:29
lose my mind and I like start to get dementia, music’s gonna be the only thing that grounds me is some YouTube concert from that I went to in Satyama in Tokyo back in 2019. You’re

Ed Stylc 26:39
thinking the way I’m thinking,

Nestor Aparicio 26:40
see, because music’s gonna sustain me.

Ed Stylc 26:42
Yeah, it is.

Nestor Aparicio 26:42
I know it is,

Ed Stylc 26:44
and I’ve even figured out that now. Now I’m even graduating, become more accepting of good tribute bands for the simple fact that

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Nestor Aparicio 26:52
that’s what we’re gonna have,

Ed Stylc 26:52
right? Because you know, this

Nestor Aparicio 26:54
learner is a tribute band, right?

Ed Stylc 26:55
And and what’s the big deal? Because when you go to the BSO, when they Johan and Sebastian Box not there, so you know why not? The music continues as long as it’s played well.

Nestor Aparicio 27:05
Sebastian Johann Bach. Well,

Ed Stylc 27:06
whatever.

Nestor Aparicio 27:07
Sebastian Box there. He’s for Guns and Roses. Now, what’s Bantz? He’s not Guns N’ Roses. He does. Okay.

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Ed Stylc 27:13
So I don’t know how that works. Adley

Nestor Aparicio 27:14
Rutschman’s a Red Sox. If Adley Rudman’s a Red Sox, I can deal with Sebastian boxing and for Twisted. Yes, it is

Ed Stylc 27:20
what it is. Just go perform the music if you like the music. Are you going

Nestor Aparicio 27:23
to rush?

Ed Stylc 27:24
Don’t know,

Nestor Aparicio 27:25
dude. Go. Well, the problem is so good. The

Ed Stylc 27:26
problem is I have to go into Washington D.C. and that violates every fiber of my being. I will never after you know after what happened in D.C. Get mugged. Well, first off, I hate driving down there. Two, I can’t stand the city. I lived there for two years. My guy’s

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Nestor Aparicio 27:39
parents never left Maryland. Go ahead. Come on.

Ed Stylc 27:41
So, and I’m coming out of ELO after we’d seen him in Philadelphia at night, New York Avenue. Right, it’s got to be 11:30 at night, and I get 100-dollar speeding ticket, and I was going maybe 45 or something. Slow

Nestor Aparicio 27:54
down, dude.

Ed Stylc 27:55
I don’t care. I hate.

Nestor Aparicio 27:56
Follow the law.

Ed Stylc 27:57
I will not go into that city. All

Nestor Aparicio 27:59
right, listen. If you, if I drive and you promise not to bitch, you can go to rush with me.

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Ed Stylc 28:04
I’ll think about it. All right,

Nestor Aparicio 28:06
he is a new world man. Ed Stilk is here. He works in real media in the real world and gave up his 530. Do you go to Ravens games at all? You’re done.

Ed Stylc 28:12
If somebody flips me a ticket, I’ll go.

Nestor Aparicio 28:14
Free free ticket. Free free

Ed Stylc 28:15
ticket. I go.

Nestor Aparicio 28:16
I feel that way about the Orioles. Yeah, free ticket. I go. Same same kind of. Free ticket for the Ravens. I still wouldn’t go. I wouldn’t. I just. I’m home now. I’m good. You have a legitimate

Ed Stylc 28:25
reason to be pissed. I’m

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Nestor Aparicio 28:25
good. The

Ed Stylc 28:26
last, the last Ravens game I went to was when Cheap Trick played halftime.

Nestor Aparicio 28:30
So it’s been a couple years. These concert tickets. You know, this whole thing started this summer when a friend of mine went to see Death Cab for Cutie and said to me it was the best concert she’d ever seen. And she said to me, “How many concerts have you been to? And what was the best concert I’ve ever seen? So if you asked me the best concert I’ve ever seen, I said to her, “I’ve seen 1000s of concerts, and she’s like, “1000s? Yeah, what? So this would be, you know, this right here. These are only the ones I can sort of find,

Ed Stylc 29:01
right?

Nestor Aparicio 29:02
And there are so many because I had a backstage pass in Hammerjacks for years. I don’t have a ticket stub. And then you think about how many times I’ve seen smithereens, Tommy Comwell, bar bands, walked in, gave the bouncer 20 bucks, and just walked in and got my hand stamped. I got to figure that out because there’s the only evidence of that would be my iPod saying, “Yeah, I saw that band once, or I saw you know like, or something popping up and saying, yeah, I saw the hot house flowers that night at Hammer Jacks. You know, my

Ed Stylc 29:28
brother’s got a better memory about a lot of the shows than I do, and I’ve sometimes have forgotten that I’ve seen bands now. It’s gotten that ridiculous, or how many times? And he’s like, “No, you saw that. See, you said

Nestor Aparicio 29:37
cheap trick. I saw cheap trick play in the infield at the Kentucky Derby in Louisville. Now there’s no ticket stub for that. There’s, I mean, I have a press pass for, but like I got to remember that stuff when I’m adding this up. Yeah, well, because I am adding this up. I am creating a spreadsheet that in December I will have some close approximation of whether it. 20 420, 834, I don’t know, but it’s a lot. The

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Ed Stylc 30:03
only thing I can tell you is cheap tricks the band I’ve seen the most times.

Nestor Aparicio 30:06
Okay, I

Ed Stylc 30:06
know that. Okay, I did not know that it’s over 40.

Nestor Aparicio 30:10
So they’re your number one. Now you know Rick Nielsen had a yeah yeah

Ed Stylc 30:14
he he obviously has asthma. Yeah, he had to sit down, and it’s probably time even for them. Robin still sounds pretty good, but he’s 78,

Nestor Aparicio 30:22
Rick, huh?

Ed Stylc 30:23
Yeah, it’s probably time. I don’t. You don’t want. I mean, I know there’s some freaks. Dude, I saw

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Nestor Aparicio 30:27
Manilow a couple weeks ago, and I. It’s not that I wish I didn’t see him, and I certainly wouldn’t have paid. I mean, I paid $32 or something, right? Something that was appropriate as I saw it. I love Barry Manilow. My son’s name’s Barry, right? You know what I mean? Like I love, like I love the songs. I listened to him around the house for three days, and I went and saw him. There were a couple of points where it happened that was was great.

Ed Stylc 30:48
Yeah,

Nestor Aparicio 30:48
and there were a couple of points where like he he just can’t do it at the level he used to be able to do it at, and that hurts me. Hurts me.

Ed Stylc 30:57
I don’t mind as far as me to watch it. A diminished performance is one thing where they’re not quite like. I saw Lou Graham a couple months ago. He he’s not he can’t do that what he used to be able to do. But it was a good show. It was good enough. It was good enough. Good enough. But but yeah, you don’t want to see them falter. See, you and I

Nestor Aparicio 31:11
could play a jerk game right now if we wanted to, and I could say Motley Crue, and you say nah, or you’d say

Ed Stylc 31:19
Vince Meehl.

Nestor Aparicio 31:20
Just anyone that’s not what you might think it used to be. All stately, I saw Rick Springfield a couple months ago.

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Ed Stylc 31:29
Dude’s ripped, and he still sounds good. He was great, even if he

Nestor Aparicio 31:31
did murder that guy in Vietnam. I

Ed Stylc 31:33
heard that story just recently. I

Nestor Aparicio 31:35
don’t know what to say. Mickey Thomas, like I, I drove to Harrisburg for that show that night.

Ed Stylc 31:41
I almost drove to Ocean City. He was at Ocean Ocean Downs over Labor Day week, and I didn’t want to fight the beach drop.

Nestor Aparicio 31:47
He’s good, man. I mean, he’s a freak of nature. Some of these

Ed Stylc 31:50
John Anderson actually still sounds exactly like he’s. I did not

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Nestor Aparicio 31:53
know that. So if you go see that, that’s he explained

Ed Stylc 31:56
it as storytellers because people struggle. He goes, his voice is. I mean, his speaking voice is that high, he goes, “I’m a natural high tenor. So when Yes brings in other singers, they struggle a little bit to get there, and he just still he can still do it. And he’s 80.

Nestor Aparicio 32:11
Well, you know, music until they roll him. McCartney’s not as good as he used to be, right? You know what I mean. But I went and saw him last year, and it’s friggin’ McCartney, and it’s okay, but it’s not.

Ed Stylc 32:20
There’s a pass there. I saw when he was on Saturday Night Live. I had a tough time with that. He said, “I don’t know.

Nestor Aparicio 32:26
People have it like Ace has a tough time going to see sticks with Lawrence Gowing, right? Like, so at some point, you got to like, you got to get through the fact that ZZ Top, you know, Billy Gibbons is out doing it. That’s it. And by the way, ZZ Top, man, they were the nicest people I ever dealt with. They insisted on me interviewing them after the show because they were promoting this Mississippi Blues Museum that still exists to this day, 35 years later. And they had me in their dressing room and they sat down with the tape exists. You can go check it out. But they were the nicest people, you know. So I want to do my 35 like great rock star, and then I’m going to do the the ones that weren’t so good. Like I told the story earlier, monkeys played Pier Six, 1986. Ace had the ticket earlier today. I said I went up to Davy Jones and I said, “Got a few words with you? He said, “Hello and goodbye, and that’s what he did to me. So that’s David, you know the deceased. But I mean, Neil Diamond took one look at my notebook paper and he said, “Oh, we’re gonna do better than that. And he he got his handler to come back with a picture and signed it in gold ink for me. You know what I mean? Like these crazy stories that I have. You know? Yeah, and it’s weird when

Ed Stylc 33:37
when you meet like like like the kiss meet and greet was one thing, and is you know they were they were going to be cool to you, and then that was awesome. I met Peter Chris; he was phenomenal. I’ve never talked

Nestor Aparicio 33:46
to now. He was my favorite. I went

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Ed Stylc 33:48
up to the the not the Valley Forge Convention Center, but they moved it up to the Oaks, PA, and up near the Philly area. Yeah, and there was a line to to meet him, and it wasn’t that long, but it wouldn’t move. I’m like, what the what’s going on here? Some some people came out. We’re like, what’s going on? They’re like, don’t worry about it. He’s spending all the time in the world with you. And I get up to him. I’m talking to him. He was actually interested in what I was saying at the end. He goes, come here. I was like, what? He goes, I got to give you a hug. It’s an Italian thing. I’m like, this is badass. Now

Nestor Aparicio 34:15
Peter Chris was my favorite. Like that’s what he was not

Ed Stylc 34:17
always like that. I’ve heard.

Nestor Aparicio 34:18
Oh, okay, okay Now you know I interviewed Ace right back in the day, and that’s up to and I met and Ace was sort of universally like when he died, people really loved Ace. Ace was a gentle soul, right? Jane and

Ed Stylc 34:32
Paul hate that.

Nestor Aparicio 34:33
Yeah, I know, but Ace was a gentle. Ace was the he

Ed Stylc 34:37
could be a pain in the ass too, but yeah, when I met him, he was cool.

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Nestor Aparicio 34:40
Yeah, Ace was cool. But you

Ed Stylc 34:41
know what that did when he passed away? That was part of my childhood. Now with Kiss, since we were talking about them, I followed them all the way to the end, and and they had some good stuff. You went to the

Nestor Aparicio 34:49
Baltimore show; it was really good, apparently, right? The

Ed Stylc 34:51
last one I did not because I knew I knew it was not really a live show. Okay, completely. I have a thing about that. I know a lot of friends went had a good time, so that’s fine. But. With Ace, with Ace, when he passed away, you know, I I hadn’t listened to Kiss in a while because I was pretty angry about the way things ended with the band, and I started listening to the early Kiss, and I’m like, you know, that stuff in the 80s and 90s was good, but this is this is the band, and now they since they sold the rights to everything to Pop House music. Did you see they just put out a live show from Anaheim, 1976?

Nestor Aparicio 35:26
I saw a thread on that, but I didn’t know it was unbelievable. So they mastered. Yeah, it’s been

Ed Stylc 35:31
out there as a bootleg pro shot and soundboard, but you know it was what it was. You know what those are like. Well,

Nestor Aparicio 35:35
that’s what the George Michael thing from 88. Same thing. They they they found they mastered 35 millimeter.

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Ed Stylc 35:40
Was it 15 six? That’s the future where we’re.

Nestor Aparicio 35:43
That’s why I want to get this setup that you have in your basement because, like, seeing these shows, I don’t want to just see that show on my laptop. I want to experience. It’s Kiss 1976. I want to see it big. So they Eddie

Ed Stylc 35:54
Kramer went in there and mixed it, and it sounds phenomenal. And it’s not like Kiss Alive and the Live Two where they touched it up or a live three, for that matter. This is not really touched at all. And the thing of it is, they didn’t have to touch up those live albums. They weren’t good. I mean, there were some flubs here and there, but it’s I like it. The real document of these shows, and they did the same thing. They re-released Dress to Kill with like live shows. Did I know

Nestor Aparicio 36:16
it’s good to have an Ed on the show because you’re like a rock and roll historian, man. You know, you love this stuff. I do the stuff that you love. You love, right?

Ed Stylc 36:23
And um, so you know now they’re bringing out these old, you know, the re-releases with extra live material, like full shows, and they’re they’re not they’re not touched up. And I love

Nestor Aparicio 36:33
it. I I think the future is going to be that you know we’re going to find these old. It’s not going to be me going to the sphere giving 500 bucks. It’s going to be me finding an old cars video that I just want to watch tonight. Exactly, literally, right?

Ed Stylc 36:43
And the other future is, and you can look on YouTube right now. You want to hear a brand new Kiss song that they have nothing to do with? You can go hear an AI Kiss song right now, where they’ve mastered Paul Stanley’s voice. So basically, what you can

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Nestor Aparicio 36:54
make fake Kiss songs for Kiss songs.

Ed Stylc 36:56
Well, what’s going to happen is these bands are now because Noel Gallagher and Liam Galgar even said this. Well, you know what? If somebody wants to make an AI Oasis album, I don’t have to have anything to do with it. Great, he goes. If I can make money off of that, so what they say they can do, like you could take the entire Kiss catalog, put it into AI. You know, I know it’s more to it than just and say that then the band could come and say, give me 12 songs. I want a ballad. I want something to sound like the Stones a little bit. I want this and that. Spits out an album. They can go learn two of the songs, go on tour. Well, not the Kisswood, but any band could do it. So the AI will just take the the historical recordings and create something new because you know rock and roll. You see, F g7. You just mix the chords up, mix a few things up, and you have it. And the AI’s gotten so good. There’s a Def Leppard song on YouTube right now. I can’t tell. It’s not Def Leppard. It’s not. There’s no human being involved, and you can’t. I’ll send you links. Oh please, man. Ed

Nestor Aparicio 37:50
Stokes here. He keeps me young with rock and roll. We’re here at Costas. I got to give you a hopefully a lucky. You get number 10. There you go. You’re perfect 10. Yeah, I wouldn’t mind. Good movie today. I’m an 11 for Louis Aparicio. It’s all brought to you by friends at the Maryland Lottery. We heard Costas and Dundalk. We’re doing some storytelling as part of my 28th anniversary. I was thinking, like, I couldn’t come up with a 28. I didn’t want to do crab cakes. I didn’t want to get sick on food again. I just felt like I want to feature something that’s relevant. And with baseball kind of going on strike, I mean, like, not kind of. Like, I’m thinking, like, all right, what could be fun for me? And when I got asked this question by my friend, how many concerts I’ve been to, I’m like, “All right, AI can help me do that. Because you know, you take pictures of any of the concert stubs and put it in; it’s going to put in a spreadsheet for me, right? Exactly. So I’m working on all parts of this so that in December, I think I will have a master spreadsheet.

Ed Stylc 38:39
I can add one for you. You were at a concert 25 years ago tomorrow. Journey. I held the

Nestor Aparicio 38:44
ticket up already. I showed it to Leonard Raskin, and I said, “What’s unique about this ticket? And he’s like, “Did this concert happen? That’s what he asked me.

Ed Stylc 38:51
Night Ranger did not happen because they were grounded. I have the ticket. I had the

Nestor Aparicio 38:55
tickets up in my hand an hour. I still had that. I still have that stuff. It’s a York Fairgrounds ticket, and Night Ranger’s on. And

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Ed Stylc 39:00
it was the craziest thing. My brother let me know. No

Nestor Aparicio 39:02
planes. Yeah,

Ed Stylc 39:02
that morning weird, and we had no radio in the car. His radio was broken. We’re driving up, and we-I think we had one cell phone. It wasn’t a smartphone, and we look up in the sky, and it’s weird. Then we got there, and we find out Night Ranger’s canceled. And then Journey opens up with a Star Spangled Banner. It never meant more.

Nestor Aparicio 39:20
Night Ranger didn’t play, huh? Yeah,

Ed Stylc 39:21
they were grounded. It was just Journey, and we-I ran into you that night. I-I-I

Nestor Aparicio 39:26
don’t-I don’t remember Night Ranger playing. It’s funny you would say that. They didn’t play. Here’s what I remember. I remember how.

Ed Stylc 39:31
I remember running into you, and then do you remember Lou, the guy used to record all the shows and sell them at the record show? He was up there, and and he he he didn’t get the gravity of the moment, how how great it was to be with all these people. He was pissed because security caught him with his camera. He was taping the show. Oh, okay. Yeah, which now would be wouldn’t be a big deal at all because everybody’s taping the shows. Well,

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Nestor Aparicio 39:52
it’s like they ripped the film out of my camera to do the. That’s what they did to him. Serious moonlight. They rip your film out. Yeah, that’s what they did to him. Sons. We’re at Costas. We’re going to be at State Fair on the 24th. I think Pizza Johns. I think I’m going to do in October because we have this Ocean’s Calling thing. I had Mark Bryan from Hootie and the Blowfish on. They’re playing on the 25th. I’ve never seen the Dave Matthews Band.

Ed Stylc 40:13
Neither have I.

Nestor Aparicio 40:14
So that would be an opportunity for me. Shaggy’s opening the show in Ocean City. So I’m trying trying to get down to that. We’re talking music and memories and having some fun here at Costas. I’m gonna step out, take a break. It’s good seeing you, man. You too, man. Roy was gonna win a Super Bowl.

Ed Stylc 40:27
No, I think they’re gonna. Yeah, the Rams thought

Nestor Aparicio 40:31
they were gonna win until Wednesday night. Well, you know they got they got into Australia like like

Ed Stylc 40:35
28 hours before kickoff.

Nestor Aparicio 40:36
Well, how’d that work out?

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Ed Stylc 40:38
Not well.

Nestor Aparicio 40:39
Not well. They probably should have done a little bit of bio, whatever they did, but we’ll see how the Ravens do. Luke will be out in No Ex Mills all next week. We’re wrapping up the baseball season around here. I am a man of letters and writing things. And hey, G, you gonna sit in on the show? Well, maybe I wrap the show up. It’s my Zumba teacher and friend, G. How you doing? By the way, your husband was referenced earlier today because he apparently went to a concert with Ron West to see some band that I don’t remember, but he was with your husband. So if that that matters, ask Dave if he went to a concert with Ron West in 1981. He did. Do

Ed Stylc 41:18
a segment; he’ll get you to talk.

Nestor Aparicio 41:20
No, no, no. GG and I are gonna have beers, man. We’re childhood friends. This is this is she’s Eastwood and I’m Colgate, and we’re gonna get together and talk about losing the mall. They took the mall, G. They took the mall. I just drove

Ed Stylc 41:31
around the mall loop on the way over here. I wanted to see what was going on. We did John Allen and I

Nestor Aparicio 41:35
went over and had a boo hoo. Funniest thing happened that we did the goodbye party, and John and I’ll talk about this, but we left Pizza John’s to go to the mall that night. We went to the what used to be the Applebee’s and whatever’s the Crab Claw or whatever it was at the time. We were there happy hour. We got a couple beers and a couple of dudes from Eastwood showed up. Gee, and they were older than us, and and they were fans of John more than me. Like whatever they they knew John knew them. Like they were and they were older than us,

Ed Stylc 42:00
right?

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Nestor Aparicio 42:01
And the one guy’s like, “Dude, I worked at the head shop here when it was a shopping center, man. There was a head shop underneath the Hess, and I’m like, there was a head shop at the mall. He’s like, “Well, it’s before the mall. It’s like before Nixon outlawed. He’s like, “It was like 7071, 72. There was a head shop underneath the Hess shoe store. He’s like, dude, let’s go over there and see. I know where the door is, man. Maybe we could go down there and see. It was like in the basement, and I’m like, people have recollections of the mall beyond the Penguins and the Penguin Room and Santa, and I getting these stories from people has been great. That mall

Ed Stylc 42:38
meant a lot to me. That bowling alley. I remember jumping on the bus outside of Sacred Heart of Jesus, and I was like in first grade, but like a big boy moment. Even though there were teachers, no parents, just gonna go bowling. Yeah, it was that was big boy moment.

Nestor Aparicio 42:49
The mall was a big deal. All right, I’m rapping to show up. I’ll take a break. That’s it. We’re Costas. Back for more right after this for Baltimore Positive. Stay with us.

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