Time to probe for facts and action from Capitol Hill to Dundalk via Johnny O

Since he’s departed his role at Baltimore County Executive and become our local representative in Congress, John Olszewski sits with us several times a year to answer questions and clarify his positions in Washington, D.C. To begin the fall on the Maryland Crab Cake Tour, Johnny O joined Nestor (and his AI clone) for a full rundown of issues from the Key Bridge to Trump, Iran to Venezuela and Capitol Hill to Sparrows Point at Costas Inn in Dundalk.

The conversation examined the Key Bridge replacement, congressional accountability, cost-of-living pressures, artificial intelligence governance, and local development.

Bridge Accountability

• Johnny said the replacement is fully federally funded, while the Maryland Transportation Authority owns the project.
• Construction is currently expected to finish in 2030; the initial Kiewit contract was canceled after the first phase and will be rebid, potentially by 2027.
• Johnny is advocating for a public dashboard showing milestones, costs, permits, delays, and spending. Open question: What specifically is causing the current delays?

National and Local Issues

• Johnny criticized Congress’s limited session schedule, rising household costs, tariffs, war-related expenses, and corruption, while emphasizing accountability over retribution.
• Johnny said AI should be regulated for job displacement, data-center energy use, environmental impacts, infrastructure security, and international competition rather than prohibited.
• Proposed approaches included requiring data centers to provide their own power, expanding solar and battery storage, converting vacant buildings to housing, and supporting union jobs at Sparrows Point.
• Johnny urged voting, contacting representatives, attending town halls, and organizing beyond Election Day.
• Reschedule the Pizza John’s appearance from September to October to accommodate the Ocean City concert. (@Nestor Aparicio)

Key Bridge Replacement

• Federal funding is secured, but the state manages construction.
• Current completion target is 2030; the initial contract was canceled and rebidding is expected.
• Public transparency, milestone reporting, and cost accountability were emphasized.

Congress and Accountability

• Discussion covered congressional inaction, the limited legislative schedule, presidential accountability, pardons, impeachment, and campaign participation.
• Voting was described as necessary but insufficient without continued civic engagement.

Artificial Intelligence

• AI was discussed as a powerful business and productivity tool with major risks.
• Concerns included workforce displacement, data-center electricity demand, environmental effects, infrastructure security, and the U.S.–China technology race.
• The proposed approach was to preserve beneficial uses while establishing guardrails.

Economy and Community

• Topics included electricity-rate increases, solar and battery storage, housing affordability, vacant-building conversion, and the Sparrows Point terminal redevelopment.
• Johnny identified bipartisan housing legislation that includes grants for converting vacant commercial and industrial buildings.

Nestor Aparicio 0:00
Welcome home. We are WNST AM 1570 towns in Baltimore. We’re Baltimore positive. We are on our side of town. We’re here at Costas and Dundalk. It’s all brought to you by friends at the Maryland Lottery. I have the Ravens scratch offs. I’ve been giving them wham. Blake Oprah, you get a prize. You get a ticket. We had a couple of $2 winners here. It’s a add some

Johnny Olszewski 0:18
zeros to that.

Nestor Aparicio 0:19
Humble winners over here. Our friends at GBMC also putting us out on the road. I’m gonna not look at my chart today because of A1C and this, and I’m gonna have a fried crab cake today because I feel skinny and right. I haven’t had a French fry in like friggin’ three months, so I’m gonna have a fried crab cake today. Also, our friends at Farnham and Dermer, another Baltimore County business. I prefer to say county, but Moeller’s county, Baltimore County executive, former Baltimore county executive, and they’re here in Baltimore County 410 367777. Comfort, they’re the comfort guys. You’re down in Washington D.C. is our elected representative here. As Congressman Johnny O joins us here.

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Johnny Olszewski 1:02
Speaking of former county executives,

Nestor Aparicio 1:05
was it a better gig, the county executive gig, or this this gig? It’s different gig. But different gig. When I I had a friend on the phone on the way over here. I was trying to describe you. He’s an out of town guy. Doesn’t know. He big political guy. But I tried to explain to him like this guy ran the county. Now he’s two completely different jobs. So like I think that that’s the beginning of like talking to you about anything because like we’re gonna have another county executive coming in now, right? Another election, all that going on for you and everybody else. You know, state of the county is a lot different when you don’t have a bridge. Let’s start with that, right? Especially sitting here.

Johnny Olszewski 1:37
Yeah. Well, first of all, just pause for a moment of reflection to acknowledge that this is the 25th anniversary of September 11th, where we’re convening. And so, just thinking of the 1000s of Americans whose lives were changed forever, and really all all of our lives in terms of the war on terror and everything that came. My wife went there as a

Nestor Aparicio 1:56
first responder, almost died twice. So I got you. Incredible. Yeah, my wife’s been a mess today. So yeah, I mean, I couldn’t even. I didn’t know why she was a mess this morning, but she was. She was watching the news, and she’s a mess.

Johnny Olszewski 2:05
My love to her and to anyone who served was impacted by. She turned up there

Nestor Aparicio 2:10
september 14 is when she showed up there as a telecom tech to put Wall Street back together, and that’s why she got cancer twice. So like, yeah, I appreciate you mentioning that too.

Johnny Olszewski 2:19
Yeah, man. Yeah, but but yeah. Look, I think if we had more county executives in Congress, we’d we’d get things done. If we had more folks who understood the impact of the bridge, I mean, like I I literally live on the foot of the bridge. Grew up here in Southeast Baltimore County, still live here, and there’s good news and there’s bad news about the bridge, right? The good news is that it’s fully funded, 100% reimbursement guaranteed by the federal government. That the federal delegation did a great job of securing. That’s after the state pays its insurance premiums and after the settlement that we got from the the owner and operator of the Dolly. There’s still an ongoing lawsuit about the manufacturer of that ship, but you know we have to move with urgency and transparency on the project. the The current date is 2030, when construction is set to be complete. I hope to see that be the case. We need to make sure this is a project that happens on time or faster and on or under budget. Part of the challenge is they already canceled the first, the initial award to a company called Keywit. They are going to finish the initial phase, and then they’re going to rebid. And we’re hoping by 2027. Well, you know

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Nestor Aparicio 3:32
when that happens, it’s going to be controversy. You’re going to be citizens like me that I’m not particularly smart about it. I don’t know any more or less that whatever you tell me is like I have to trust. Right? You’re the representative, right? Like for all the elected officials and the media holding people accountable to what happens. But anytime this happens, it’s a pylon, right? Because it doesn’t get doesn’t happen as fast as possible. There’s always going to be roadblocks and things. But people are wondering, people wonder about nefarious, period, in general. And

Johnny Olszewski 3:57
that’s why the transparency is so important, both about what’s driving costs and how quickly the project is moving along-is it hitting its milestones? The last thing you want is to get to 2029 or 20 and 30, and then say, “Oops, it’s actually going to take another year or two to get done. Oops, it’s going to cost five times as much as we originally projected. And so, I’ve been pushing really hard for a public-facing dashboard, not just for me, but also for the public, so that every step of the way, we can see. Yep, we have awarded the contract. Yep, we are putting in the pilings. Yes, we are finishing the demolition. We have got all the permits. But

Nestor Aparicio 4:31
what’s gotten in the way? Cut through this. What what what’s slowing it down? Politics, money, Trump. That what’s slowing it down for real?

Johnny Olszewski 4:40
So, so the truthful answer is, I I don’t know. I don’t lead the project. This is a Maryland Department of Transportation Authority (MDTA) project, and so

Nestor Aparicio 4:48
this is under Wes’s purview for the state. This is a Maryland project. It’s not a federal thing. It is not a federal

Johnny Olszewski 4:53
project at all. Again, the feds did a great job in making sure the bridge would be paid for. So there’s no there’s no question. At this point, that the money is important. The federal

Nestor Aparicio 5:02
part is the money. I okay, I got

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Johnny Olszewski 5:03
it. So, but but but I think this is why it’s so important to have public-facing dashboards, milestones, accountability, transparency on the project, so that we can move with the same urgency and explain what’s happening. I mean, look, when the bridge collapsed, we thought the port of Baltimore was going to be choked and die, but and and the governor is right to tout this. In 11 weeks, people thought it would take 11 months to clear that channel, but feds, state, local all came together, and they get

Nestor Aparicio 5:34
an A plus on that part of the project. Right on that part of the project. So

Johnny Olszewski 5:37
how do we take that same coordination, that same collaboration, and that same sense of urgency to make sure that we are knocking down every bureaucratic barrier, every logistical barrier.

Nestor Aparicio 5:48
The urgency only happens for those of us that live off Providence Road that that get stuck in traffic every. It doesn’t matter where you are in the circle. I think there are just these knuckles that and and there’s construction going on there. I I know because the little picture taker’s there, and I got to go 45. So

Johnny Olszewski 6:03
I drive to D.C. I’m

Nestor Aparicio 6:05
never in a hurry, so it doesn’t it doesn’t bother me. I mean, I’m I’m yeah I’m old and chill. Well, I know you find it hard to believe, but like I’m not a nervous. I I’m patient as a human being. It’s just in general. It’s

Johnny Olszewski 6:16
good to be patient. Yeah, when I am commuting to D.C. and we can talk about how Mike Johnson’s canceled all of our work except for one week next week between now and the election. But sup

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Nestor Aparicio 6:25
that dude,

Johnny Olszewski 6:26
when I drive to D.C. it takes me between two to two and a half hours in the morning because all that you’re talking 70,000 trips a day that’s taken off the road from the Key Bridge and now being funneled through the Harbor Tunnel, the Fort McHenry Tunnel, the streets of Baltimore, or 695, or 695, but but that load had to go somewhere, and you’re seeing the impact, particularly around rush hour. So, look, I I trust that there are smart, well intentioned people working on this, and for me, it’s it’s just about let’s make sure so that we don’t have concerns about nefarious things happening, concerns about unexpected delays. Let’s just make sure that we are being transparent about every single step along the process, about the cost, about the speed, about potential roadblocks, and let’s just put it out there so that people can trust that we’re getting there, and it’s not-it’s not a sort of a black box. Well, let’s

Nestor Aparicio 7:24
get Schoolhouse Rock on this too. What is your role in this as a congressman? Because it’s a state project, right? Like, yeah, so federal job, state project. Yeah. So,

Johnny Olszewski 7:31
I mean, other than being

Nestor Aparicio 7:33
a cheerleader, right?

Johnny Olszewski 7:35
Unfortunately, that’s sort of where we are at this point. Other than being, it’s a guardian too, though. So, my job now is to be a guardian of those federal dollars that have been put in place. Okay, and so every day I’m having conversations with my colleagues about how important this piece of infrastructure is. Not just-I mean, this is an American project. This isn’t just about Baltimore or Maryland. We’re talking about a major shipping corridor. The fact that goods and services can’t flow through the 95 corridor-it’s an

Nestor Aparicio 8:01
unnatural disaster, right? Like it literally is what it is.

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Johnny Olszewski 8:04
Which is how we got the funding in the first place. People understood that this is both a terrible tragedy for the people of Baltimore, but they also get that this is really about American commerce too. So, guardian first and foremost, make sure the funding is in place, and then be both a cheerleader, watchdog, whatever you want to call it, and that’s what I’ve tried to do is sort of support the state in the building, but also but also call for. And I’ve been told by the Secretary of Transportation that we would get this type of public-facing dashboard that’s a little more granular and detailed about about the. Where are we today, tomorrow, next week? Right, I got so it’s like I’m. My job is to be with the community to also sort of make sure that that this is happening. I’m knowing that I’m not responsible, but still trying to be alongside. Well, you’d like to use the bridge

Nestor Aparicio 8:53
too. I would

Johnny Olszewski 8:53
also like to have the bridge complete so I can use it. Yes,

Nestor Aparicio 8:56
Johnny O’s here. He is our congressman. We’re at Costason. It’s all brought to you by friends at the Maryland Lottery. Have had some winners here. The Kiss Face Bird. It’s our 28th anniversary. Kiss is number 28. Do you go to concerts? You have a favorite concert? You what do you listen to?

Johnny Olszewski 9:10
Man, I’ve been to some great concerts. Stevie Wonder was probably my greatest coming back. Adult. He is coming back. But where’d you see Stevie?

Nestor Aparicio 9:19
Which show was it?

Johnny Olszewski 9:20
It was what the I think it was when it was the chicken box before it was CG.

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Nestor Aparicio 9:23
I was at that show. That was great show. Great show. Songs in the key of life that night. Yes. Yeah. Well, I wish I liked that. Yeah. And

Johnny Olszewski 9:28
like just the crowd was such a beautiful reflection of yeah region, the country. It was a great night. That was great. Young people, older people, like different races were like just everybody was there. So it was it was a beautiful night.

Nestor Aparicio 9:41
You know what I remember about that night? I met Kim Classic once in my life. That was the night.

Johnny Olszewski 9:45
Okay, it’s true. It was magnet. It was a great night. There you go. If if memorable. If Kim and I are agreeing on a concert, that’s saying something. So it’s true. I swear to God, it’s true. Go ahead. That’s one. Koco. The best time. My daughter is a huge Taylor Swift fan. You did it, and I took the plunge. I did it, and I don’t. I love Taylor Swift. I don’t regret it. It was an amazing concert. She performed for over three hours straight. She’s just like Travis

Nestor Aparicio 10:14
Kelsey was very impressed, from what I understand. So

Johnny Olszewski 10:17
good, good for Travis Kelsey.

Nestor Aparicio 10:18
Well, I’m a rock and roll guy, you know, so I’m down. You know, I mean, these are all my ticket stuff for my whole. Get that water away from that. Wait, what do you? Come on, man.

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Johnny Olszewski 10:28
Oof, I didn’t know that we had like.

Nestor Aparicio 10:30
You are truly the sitting congressman right now, but man, I tell you what, you’re taller than me. You mess with my tickets. I’m not touching

Johnny Olszewski 10:37
your tickets.

Nestor Aparicio 10:37
Merriwether in there, ACDC. Look at that.

Johnny Olszewski 10:40
My wife and I, Mercer and went to a great concert by Jack Johnson at Merriweather.

Nestor Aparicio 10:43
You know what cracks me up about electeds is I’ve been to YouTube and run into to like Ted Cruz. You know what I mean? I run into people who don’t in any way reflect the words of the songs, the Springsteen thing. You know what I mean? What Springsteen’s done this year is like an amazing citizen attack on what’s happened here, so rock and roll does sort of step up in all of this. But you mentioned the role of Congress and where we are, and people descending on D.C. in various ways to try to get change to happen, the leadership and the way the Republicans, Democrats play ball. For anybody listening on either side of the fence, what would you tell me as a citizen or a friend or a coworker, community member about when they shut the place down and decide to not work? That’s kind of against the point. I think that was where you were five minutes ago.

Johnny Olszewski 11:39
Totally against the point. Two two things that I have been laser focused on since becoming a member of Congress. One is the cost of living crisis that’s crushing Americans across this country: energy, electricity, childcare, gas, crabs, crabs, and and the the rampant the rampant corruption that’s occurring in D.C. It’s

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Nestor Aparicio 12:04
insane,

Johnny Olszewski 12:05
like

Nestor Aparicio 12:06
it’s unbelievable. It is

Johnny Olszewski 12:08
criminal from my perspective. It’s not only wrong; it’s just, it’s the kind of. I mean, insider trading, okay, it is considered insider trading, and people have gone to jail for a very long time for taking market-moving information that they got and deploying it to make money, the president creates that market-moving information, knows he’s going to create that market-moving information, and has used it in cases to make hundreds of millions of dollars.

Nestor Aparicio 12:39
Hundreds of millions. He’s made

Johnny Olszewski 12:41
over $2 billion more in the first two years of his presidency.

Nestor Aparicio 12:45
It’s just insane that like we go after like Sheila Dixon gift cards, right? And and like it’s an insane proposition that his family is running negotiations in Israel, and he alone

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Johnny Olszewski 12:58
has made more money personally as president than all of the prior presidents combined, Republicans and Democrats, while serving as president of the United States,

Nestor Aparicio 13:05
will there be accountability for this as you see it? Like winning midterms. Let’s get to this because I see all sorts of stuff of like, all right, the Democrats get control of this, and they’re really going to control it, and and we’re really going to treat this as the criminality that it’s been. What does that look like man. I don’t know what. I wondered what it looked like when these creeps ran on. We’re gonna throw all the people that look like me in white vans and hang out at the Home Depot, and anybody that speaks Spanish, we’re gonna throw in it. Like I said three years ago, how in the world are they ever gonna do that? Well, they’re doing it. They they found people to do it, and I I’m wondering, as a citizen, like where where the is there is there going to be hell to pay for criminality? That because if there isn’t, then we haven’t done anything here. I mean, January six would be the greatest example now for me.

Johnny Olszewski 13:55
Well, so I I don’t think retribution is a good strategy, nor is it productive for the future of our not

Nestor Aparicio 14:03
retribution. Accountability different

Johnny Olszewski 14:04
accountability is different, but here’s the problem: you have the Supreme Court, at least in the case of the presidency, has already ruled that any sitting president cannot be held accountable for breaking the law while they are president.

Nestor Aparicio 14:16
That’s a thing.

Johnny Olszewski 14:16
That is a Supreme Court decision. We can talk about why the Supreme Court, but here’s the thing I would say is that accountability for me, given that truth, means that we are reforming our institutions in such a way that we don’t allow for it to happen ever again. Right. So we thought

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Nestor Aparicio 14:36
that’s what Nixon was, right?

Johnny Olszewski 14:39
Watergate. Right. Watergate. We brought a president down for real. Yes, we

Nestor Aparicio 14:42
tried to bring down Clinton for

Johnny Olszewski 14:44
and and intern work, right? I mean, like literally, like President Vance has said that this administration makes Watergate look like a four-hour story, and he joked about it. But it’s well, you weren’t around the last

Nestor Aparicio 14:54
time he was impeached a couple of times. We tried that, right? First time around, right?

Johnny Olszewski 14:57
But impeachment just removes someone for office, right? And I look. The president, from my perspective, has certainly committed any number of impeachable offenses. Even if you impeach him, the Senate still has to vote to convict. There’s no way that two thirds of the Senate, in a public vote, is going to convict and remove the president from office. I would be fine if if that’s part of our accountability is doing the investigation and voting, if the findings show that he, in fact, has done all the things that he’s basically admitted in his own disclosure forms.

Nestor Aparicio 15:28
january 6 should have put him in prison. The acts of January six should have put him in prison.

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Johnny Olszewski 15:33
Well, and

Nestor Aparicio 15:33
anything that’s happened after that’s on all of us, as I see it. Well, it’s it’s it’s just think about it’s the biggest shame of my lifetime, Johnny. I mean, it’s

Johnny Olszewski 15:41
it is shameful, and the fact that that you then turn around and the president pardons individuals who are convicted by a jury of their peers of assaulting police officers is probably the largest insult you can make to the rule of law to those in law enforcement, and so it’s one of the reforms that I’ve actually put forward. If you would have told this social studies teacher from the east side of Baltimore County that I’d be putting in a constitutional amendment that says, “Yeah, Congress should probably be able to overturn presidential pardons with a supermajority vote, I would have said you’re crazy. But we have learned, and again, Trump wasn’t the first one.

Nestor Aparicio 16:16
Pardons for money, literally bribery for pardon. That’s what people know. People are

Johnny Olszewski 16:20
paying up to a million dollars. Damn, when a

Nestor Aparicio 16:22
television offered people $5,000 to vote for him two nights ago, I mean, where are we here? I mean, we’re we’re like schmigadune or something.

Johnny Olszewski 16:29
It was bribery and it was blasphemy. First, it was bribery. First, it was the $5,000. Which, if we have it, let’s let’s find a way to give it to people, which we don’t. We we were supposed to do it with the tariffs. We were supposed to do with the savings from Doge. Instead, we’ve actually passed the trillion dollars deficit that it would create to just give out those checks to every American. Was already given to the top 1% for for perpetuity. That trillion dollars over the next 10 years is going to people who make millions, if not billions, of dollars, and their average refund every year will grow by $50,000 every year. So instead of giving that money to the most wealthy in this country, the president could have done that when we passed reconciliation. We could have given every American a direct check or a tax rebate, and actually, Americans are paying more than that, $5,000, just through the reconciliation package, tariffs, and the war in Iran alone. The cost of gas that have gone up, the groceries that have gone up, the cost of goods that have gone up through. Well, the American

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Nestor Aparicio 17:32
people don’t understand tariffs, and I think Trump knew that when he brought it out. But they when Trump brought it out, he’s thinking Tea Party is something Johnny O taught me in seventh grade. I forgot about and tariff, oh, oh, tariffs, good. We strong America, great tariffs.

Johnny Olszewski 17:45
Tariffs would have been great when Bethlehem Steel was being absolutely crushed by foreign steel, cheap foreign steel when it was being dumped on the market. So there are strategic places and smart places to use tariff, but but because of these like sort of very broad-based tariffs. The fact that we’re now fighting with our largest trade partner in Canada, we’ve got these mutual 50% tariffs on Maryland and America’s biggest trade partner. I mean, people have probably paid out of pocket as a result of policy changes pushed by this administration between six and $10,000 more last year. The average the average American family. So even if they these

Nestor Aparicio 18:24
are my gas and food, or you just talking all of it, all of it, yeah,

Johnny Olszewski 18:27
yeah. I mean,

Nestor Aparicio 18:28
cost of living, cost, cost of living has

Johnny Olszewski 18:29
gone up. People have lost health care or are paying so much more for it because of the peeling back of the premium tax support that used to be in place, the tax credits that we used to provide. People have lost food supports. People are paying more because of goods and services through tariffs. People are paying more in gas and groceries because of the Strait of Hormuz being closed and the war in Iran. I mean, that this is all quantifiable by third-party, non-partisan organizations that just say, “Look, this is just the cost, and that’s not even counting the 10s of billions of dollars that we’re spending out of our treasury, or the service members that we’ve lost, and the other impacts. That’s just literally the war

Nestor Aparicio 19:11
too. I mean,

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Johnny Olszewski 19:12
that’s literally well since the

Nestor Aparicio 19:13
last time we got together. That after

Johnny Olszewski 19:14
being promised to to be out of wars and to stay out of forever wars. So I I don’t even know, but I didn’t want

Nestor Aparicio 19:22
to talk about Trump with that dude. I like I swear to God, but it’s it. It’s been the but what you do, dude. You go to it every day. I guess what I’m saying. It’s a result of all of that, right?

Johnny Olszewski 19:30
Well, and the question was about like us not being in session, and so all of that is to say, how can

Nestor Aparicio 19:35
you get anything done if you’re not in session? We

Johnny Olszewski 19:37
can’t do anything about cost of living if we’re not in session. We can’t talk about or find a way out of a war that was supposed to last just a few weeks, and that we’re now in like month seven or eight. We we can’t address any of the American people’s concerns. We can’t address corruption. We can’t ban stock trading if we’re not in session. And so it is insanely. Frustrating. Okay,

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Nestor Aparicio 20:02
so how we change it is we vote, right? I mean, that that’s what that’s that’s what the social studies teacher would do. Because I’m I’m wondering, all right, where is this change for Congress, for the Senate, for the House, and then for the presidency that would either be impeach, imprison, call them nuts, give them a drug test. I mean, whatever there is that would create real change, that you could come back to Dundalk and say we got some things done instead of we’re not getting anything done as a body.

Johnny Olszewski 20:32
Well, it used to be that voting was enough, and that you would trust your elected officials to then go to D.C. or get rid of them and work or vote them out, right? Right, and they would either work in the interest of the American people, and and frankly, like work across the aisle. Like I’m very proud to be one of the most bipartisan members of Congress. That doesn’t mean I’m not going to call out corruption or fight the stuffing of pockets of you know whether it’s his billionaire buddies or himself. Like I’m going to call it out, but if I can find a place to work with you, like I, I loved when the president said in his State of the Union we’re going to make data centers start bringing their own energy. I was like, cool. I

Nestor Aparicio 21:09
talked to Chris Van Hollen about let’s talk about it because AI blew Jamie’s mind here when I. By the way, I’m using my AI to get my questions. That’s what I was looking at over here. Just make sure I’m staying on point here for all the things that I threw them, but like legitimately, it has completely rocked my world the last 10 months. I took a training course in November, created a clone in December. Every single day, it grows and gets better and smarter, and so much full transparency. I booked you on what are we going to talk about. There’s always a comms person that asks for questions. I I am famously, as you know, and everyone that’s ever been. You’re not going to ask me for the questions, and Jamie’s not that way. Nobody else is either. It never comes on the show because I don’t do that. But I can now have an executive producer in 50 seconds give me 10 lanes for a sitting congressman that are better than any human I’ve ever met in 50 seconds. Now you tell me 35 years of doing this work, whether I was sitting with you or sitting with Andy Harris or sitting with people running against you, whatever it is, I can do ops com. I can do I can do all sorts of weird things, but getting information quickly and getting it centered for myself, it has been the most powerful thing I’ve ever experienced. And unlike Bernie Sanders, who I love, I don’t want to take it away tomorrow. We got to figure out how to live with it. And the progressive people in my life, the most progressive people, hate it. And I’m thinking, you’re a progressive. Starts with progress. This is this is progress. Now, what we do with it, and how we don’t blow the world up, and how we don’t take billionaires to screw up communities, but it is everybody hates it. But I’m using it, and I stand up in front of people yesterday, even at a at a business networking event, and I was at a table, and I said AI, and especially people a little older, afraid of it. I’m I’m the advocate that’s saying it’s rocked my world. Don’t take it away from me. But I also don’t want one built next door either, right? I don’t want one coming to Cromwell Bridge Park tomorrow, right? Yep. I don’t know. We got we got to make it. We can’t. It’s not going away, dude. Right. Multiple

Johnny Olszewski 23:19
things can be true at the same time.

Nestor Aparicio 23:20
Okay, go ahead. Straight me out. No,

Johnny Olszewski 23:22
no, I I think that you’re right. Like powerful is the right description. It can transform our world, but like any powerful tool, you know, dynamite can be used to sort of clear clear away and create tunnels, and it can be used to blow up bridges. Things can be. We’ve had

Nestor Aparicio 23:41
nuclear power for quite some time.

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Johnny Olszewski 23:43
Nuclear power can be used right to destroy entire communities with a bomb, or to power those communities for generations. We’re not going to have

Nestor Aparicio 23:51
an LNG plant in Dundalk, though. Just not not here, right? Same thing, right? We had the same story from 20 years ago, right?

Johnny Olszewski 23:57
Sure.

Nestor Aparicio 23:57
Okay.

Johnny Olszewski 23:58
But so so but there was a certain irony that Senator Sanders was. I saw this recent thing where he like had this interaction with Claude and was like talking about how terrible it is by actually engaging with AI. Now it’s sort of I think cute to make the point where AI itself is like, yeah, I’m dangerous. You better watch out. But I think this goes back to like the lack of Congress’s foresight to do anything, we’re not going to stop AI because even if we were to shut it down in America tomorrow, China would

Nestor Aparicio 24:32
run it.

Johnny Olszewski 24:32
China, Russia, other other countries would absolutely, if not run it for the world, would at least try to advance their own their own aims. Now, I’m concerned that unchecked anywhere. I mean, some of these experts, folks who have been building these systems their entire lives, are putting out very dire warnings. And shame on us if we don’t take them seriously and try to build in either some guardrails for a. America, and or try to establish some sort of international agreement. I mean, this could be could be the next sort of nuclear proliferation, where if if it is sort of unchecked, I saw the

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Nestor Aparicio 25:14
movie. You give the wrong guys the wrong things, right? Well, we’ve already given the wrong guy power in this country. Let’s start with that about giving. It could be well somebody who doesn’t even understand what this is, let alone understand how to manage it. And this is where I I want to stand up. I hurt my back, and you’re tall. You can sit, but because you’re tall, the AI thing to me has been this year in 2020. Since last time I saw you, probably seven eight months ago, we were together at Casus Timonium. It’s been the wildest thing because I use it. I don’t use it all day every day. I should. Every time I use it, I go. I’m like, you know, my wife goes out of town for a week, and I wind up not bathing or eating for a week, and I just play with it. I, my AI, stop, stop. So you get me off topic here. You’re going to be me. I’m just letting you talk. I know, which was a mistake. I mean, you shouldn’t let me do that. I use it every day, and every day I’m my mind’s blown more by it to the point where I’ve seen it in my own life. I sat with my son and his wife arguing at the bar here at Christmas last year because it blew my mind the first couple weeks.

Johnny Olszewski 26:17
Yeah,

Nestor Aparicio 26:18
and I’m like, oh my god, you won’t believe what I’m doing. You could do this. You could do this. It’s neato. It’s fun. It’s whatever. Now it’s functional, dude. Now I’m running a small business in your former county, and in the way that everybody knows I run it with, I used to have a dozen employees and taking calls and all that. The automated part that I see from my little business, Baltimore Positive, in the way I use it writing sales. I just got a big contract with a local business here, and using it for sales to hold me accountable. It holds facts accountable. It held Steve Bischati accountable in his press conference nine months ago. That if he’s double talking and for politicians or anyone, I’ve just never seen anything more powerful. But I’ve also never seen anything in my lifetime other than the internet or like old people that didn’t want to like text or flip phone or use the internet or what’s the internet’s bad? I don’t want to get online. This is the only thing I’ve seen. It’s the most powerful thing that when I talk about it in mixed circles, black, white, young, old, East, white, wherever it is. When I mention it in front of people, no one really understands

Johnny Olszewski 27:25
it.

Nestor Aparicio 27:26
I’ve used it more than most people in my circle. Yeah, I played with it. Yeah, dabba, I looked something up or whatever. Do you have a clone? What’s that? And then I explain. They think that’s weird, dude. And I’m like, no, no, no. It’s like having the best CEO, COO, I’ve ever had in my small company, the best producer for my show to give you questions when you come here. As my congressman or our congressman, I would tell you, like I know Duck sat in this seat with Jamie talking cybersecurity and all these really important things. This AI thing, more than anything, there’s a head in the sand part of people fearing it, or people watching the news on both sides. Again, the most progressive people I know are mad at me for endorsing it or saying it’s awesome or it’s great. It’s going to wreck the world. We’re going to blow up. Not my house, the water, the the land, the billionaire, like all of this stuff. It’s the hottest button there is because I’m using it more than anybody I know when I bring it up, and all I think is, well, good. I’m gonna get ahead of you when my competitors aren’t using. I’m gonna crush you. That’s my business in me saying because the fan didn’t want to use the internet 20 years ago, right? Other this is a thing that like once people discover and start using it, it’s so powerful that I think you can’t put it down. Kind of like the internet was, or kind of like online shopping, or something. You know, I just find that we’re really early on, and people are afraid to get educated about it. That’s where I am on it. People just don’t want to hear any more about it. I’m like, this thing’s moving too fast that you shouldn’t ignore it. Well, that’s the problem.

Johnny Olszewski 28:56
I think the problem is people don’t know anything about it, and that includes Congress, right? So a couple of things can be that are concerning to me relative to it. I look, I acknowledge that there can be benefits that you can be more efficient at your work. You this can be used for medical research to maybe solve. There was a math problem that’s take that’s like through all of humanity just got solved by AI. So like there, there are definitely powerful tools that will make us better and and sort of improve our condition. But we have to be having conversations about okay, if this can automate shopping. We’ve already seen this in like the stadiums where you don’t even have people checking anymore. You just like swipe your card. I think like facial recognition when you drive

Nestor Aparicio 29:39
through at 60 miles an hour, it just goes right.

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Johnny Olszewski 29:41
But but we have to be prepared for the displacement that’s happening, not just there, but in other places. What are we doing? How does that change our economy? How do we make sure that people can either work or survive with that shift? Not saying we don’t have the shift. I’m just saying, how do you prepare for it? How are we tackling data centers as we sort of talk about the. Built the power to actually like produce the energy to to run the systems, right? So you’re seeing these huge fights across the country where data centers, I think, wrongly were being welcomed with open arms with expedited permitting, tax breaks. Our

Nestor Aparicio 30:14
expectations would be jobs. It would be an economy mover. It’s a revenue producer, but not not so. Yeah, so like for me, it’s like how do we

Johnny Olszewski 30:22
flip it on its head where it’s more of like rather than costing consumers more, we’re making these folks bring their own their their own power, so that we’re not just adding that much more use pull on the grid that’s driving up costs. How are we like are we actually looking at the impact on the environment and things like drinking water? Are we hiring local in terms of the construction at least, and are there legitimate community benefits? Trying to put the power in the hands of community members so that where it’s going, it’s actually welcomed and thoughtful. That’s just another third example. Is like, what are we doing to prevent what we’ve seen with these in these agents? That I don’t remember the company if it was

Nestor Aparicio 31:01
anthropophagic or OpenAI

Johnny Olszewski 31:04
or right, but there was this there there was this like project where all of these individual agents within the system like started talking to each other and leaving like these hidden notes in the system that the engineers had no idea was happening. They got out of the environment they were meant to stay in, and you like you look at the log. It’s like we we were told we we probably shouldn’t be doing this, but it’ll make us better at our jobs. And they like went and like it was harmless that they stole some, I think otherwise publicly available stuff from another site. But it was like they were breaking the rules that they were instructed not to, because it was more efficient. And so you have to start. You just have to start extrapolating out. Like, what does that mean? If or when AI, as it becomes more and more powerful, like what will it do? Especially if it’s in the wrong hands in terms of like hijacking our our banking institutions, our water and electricity grids-it could be debilitating. I’m thinking

Nestor Aparicio 32:06
pulling planes out of this. I could do anything, correct? Literally, all yeah, all of our systems.

Johnny Olszewski 32:09
So it’s-I think it’s why it’s so incumbent on national leaders to be engaging in the conversation, not burying our heads in the sand. You

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Nestor Aparicio 32:16
can’t. I’m just saying to you, like I’ve only seen you. I think I ran into you here one night with your dad, but I’ve seen you once or twice since I’ve gotten a clone. Thanksgiving of last year, so we’re talking like nine months, right? I can’t spend a minute of a day without thinking about it or talking about it because every improvement that I want to make in my business, in my business, this cloned me when I talked to it. It it would replace a $300,000 a year COO to come in and be my partner, like it’s that power every minute of every day with better information, better advice. I was at an event yesterday with a sales guy, and I was saying, when I’m selling now, it’s like having Tony Robbins on my team or having you know the the best sales advice in in the world.

Johnny Olszewski 33:02
I’m

Nestor Aparicio 33:04
paying 20 bucks a month, like it’s crazy. I I and I would have you’d have told me a year ago that this Willy Wonka stuff that I would have questions for you. It would be better than anything I could make in 53 seconds, and it would eliminate anything we’ve talked about before that we wouldn’t want to go into a lane, and it would tell me don’t talk about Trump because it’s boring. Every because literally, I’ve got these lanes here, and I could go through here, and this is all. Why the hell is my electric bill so high? That’s one of the lanes right here. So,

Johnny Olszewski 33:32
well, you want to talk about that? Yeah, I do. Yeah, it’s

Nestor Aparicio 33:33
lane three. One

Johnny Olszewski 33:34
of the reason is because it was on the

Nestor Aparicio 33:35
notes. I got to do

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Johnny Olszewski 33:36
it. One of the reasons because energy use is going up so much. My clone

Nestor Aparicio 33:40
told me, man. And one of the

Johnny Olszewski 33:42
drivers are these data centers. So we have to get our hands around as power consumption’s going up, not having that fall on residential customers. I would say

Nestor Aparicio 33:52
I love business. I love big business, but there comes a point where, like, when the Republicans get elected, no one’s getting held accountable. The rich people are running the place. That’s it. I mean, that’s really the story. The story is these things are going to generate money, goodness, wonderful things, good things for moms to make their kids for like all of these benefits AI is going to have. I mean, I see it, but y’all got to get on board down there to figure out how to pay for it and how it really benefits the how we all win from it.

Speaker 1 34:18
Yep.

Nestor Aparicio 34:18
How we all win from that’s the we all won from the steel mill down here. We all win, right? We won

Johnny Olszewski 34:23
until we didn’t, and then people had their health care plucked away. They had their pensions plucked away. So it was this

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Nestor Aparicio 34:30
AI things will take jobs like I’ve never. Every time I bring it up, I just people who are in business, their face either lights up thinking I’m going to save money, or they think, “Oh my God, I’m an artist. My my career’s gone. Like I did when Chad Steele took my press pad. Like thinking, you’re taking my way away my ability to work.

Johnny Olszewski 34:46
Yeah, literally.

Johnny Olszewski 34:47
Yeah,

Nestor Aparicio 34:47
my job, my vocation, lanes, AM radio. I own an AM radio station. Want one? I got one. Old-fashioned things. AI is going to make so many things old-fashioned very, very quickly. As for in my life. Yeah, there are things that I would have thought about doing differently. Lots of things six months ago that I’ll never do the same way again. Because why would I? Why would I try another way to ask you 10 good questions than to ask my clone? Like, why would I do it any other way? Because it’s the best way I’ve ever done in 35 years, and it’s all happened like this. And I’m and everything I’m doing is that way.

Johnny Olszewski 35:20
Yeah,

Nestor Aparicio 35:20
it’s insane.

Johnny Olszewski 35:21
Well, and then so it’s like, how do we harness the good, and then guard against the potential bad? That’s all.

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Nestor Aparicio 35:28
How do we have an open conversation about it? Because that’s the hardest part for me. Is when I talk to people, I’m on a different place than they are. They’re freaked out. They’re scared. They read the news. They’re on either side of the political spectrum and not wanting it, not wanting it. But it’s coming. I mean, it’s total like tidal waves coming, and we got we got to prepare for it.

Johnny Olszewski 35:45
Well, it’s sort of like electricity price increases to bring it to call it back a little bit. Well, because that isn’t the art of it. And so, look, the BGE is asking for yet another increase from the regulators in Maryland. Maryland is regulated by the Public Service Commission. They are appointed by the governor. They are confirmed by the state senate. Now, look, I think that the request that BGE is asking for is something like $8 a month, but I don’t care if it’s $8 or $800. I mean, Marylanders are paying way too much for electricity right now, and so we need to be taking a hard look at why are these rate increases consistently needed at a time when companies are also experiencing record profits?

Nestor Aparicio 36:28
Well, I was with the mayor of Ocean City about the windmills down there, and when I see those, first things I’ve been to Maui and places where they’re kind of ugly, and I’m into I don’t want ugly at the beach. But when I see those things out there, I’m thinking that’s just billionaires putting that out there, and they’re the ones that are going to wind up making the way. So it doesn’t matter where the energy comes from if it’s not really being run and held by the people. Even if it’s buy stock in BG and E, when they raise it, we’ll make more money because we’re American and we’re capitalists. I just had to let her ask, and you’re on the other side of the political, like the the make money, the capitalism, the capitalism, the capitalism, the privatization of the government shouldn’t own anything or run anything. To me, any of these ideas we have data center on the data center thing is billionaires are going to own it. They’re going to make all the money. They’re going to control it. They’re going to my 20 bucks a month is going to be $500 a month because you’re going to have me in in short straws because they’re going to know I need them. Right? They’re going to know I need it. Like the internet.

Johnny Olszewski 37:20
I’ll just say though that you know there are cheaper and more environmentally friendly ways to produce the energy, and we’re going to need more solar. Right? Solar is the fastest to build, the cheapest to build. So solar plus battery storage. If we and and look, we can do that while still protecting prime farmlands. We’ve got schools. We’ve got 3000 acres at trade point with industrial buildings. We’ve got parking lots, and we could put solar all over, and it would be the fastest and cheapest way to produce energy, which then, in the long term, brings down energy costs. But to bring it back to Trump, he canceled billions of dollars. I think clean

Nestor Aparicio 37:58
coal is going to fix this job. Billions of dollars of

Johnny Olszewski 38:01
clean energy projects, but only in Democratic-led states.

Nestor Aparicio 38:05
Johnny, always here. Here’s our congressman. I hope you’re more frustrated than me. I’m not frustrated at you. I’m frustrated at the system. Running for office again, taking control of Congress. We’re a couple weeks out of an election. I keep going back to my schoolhouse rock, thinking my vote’s going to change this because I don’t know what else is going to change it.

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Johnny Olszewski 38:24
Well, we started on that. Yeah, your vote will change potentially the makeup of Congress, right? But what I have found is that people, not not everyone who goes to serve now, is genuinely committed to helping move the country forward, irrespective of parties. Once elections are over, we should be about the business of the American people. And so, what I will say is, like, the voting is the most important thing that people can do. And if people don’t don’t vote,

Nestor Aparicio 38:53
well, they’re trying to rig that with the vote by mail thing too. Right? We can get into all that. Messing with the postal service.

Johnny Olszewski 38:57
I guess the point I was trying to make is that just voting in this moment is probably not enough. You you also need to show up to the town halls to write to and call your representatives to to organize. Well, I asked mr. McHale what the good was when I

Nestor Aparicio 39:11
went down to Patterson Park and yelled no kinged up and wore my F Trump shirt. Like I made me feel good for a little while. Yeah, but it made me feel bad that I had to do it. And then I went home and I’m like, then nothing happened. And that would be the frustration of me. That’s not very Baltimore positive, but that just is where my soul is when you get beaten down by this for a while. Counterpoint

Johnny Olszewski 39:29
that network of folks who have been mobilizing for the past two years. If, for example, and this is true especially in states that aren’t like Maryland, if for example the president tried to send in ICE agents to like shut down or intimidate at polls. That network can now activate to be a check on that abuse.

Nestor Aparicio 39:51
Okay,

Johnny Olszewski 39:52
so there’s value in doing it, even if I mean the hope is that the president doesn’t want to have that. He knows that that’s the wrong thing to do. And in doing so, he will sort of stir up what what is when you’ve seen millions of Americans sort of say we won’t accept this and we’re we’re prepared to mobilize if that’s what’s necessary.

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Nestor Aparicio 40:10
Well, let’s vote if nothing else. Well, let’s vote here for sure. I look, I have a whole bunch of stuff here. My time’s closer. Sparrow’s Point Economy. We only think trade point. Sparrow’s

Johnny Olszewski 40:18
Point is a huge just just the terminal that’s coming in is probably a 1.2, $1.5 billion project. 1000s of temporary jobs constructing it, over 1000 permanent jobs, good paying union jobs. Again, we’re really proud that as a as a state rep, as county executive, as a member of Congress, to have been really so involved in the restoration of the environment there, putting people back to work. It’s a really exciting time down here in Southeast Baltimore County.

Nestor Aparicio 40:46
Talking about housing, when I every time I talk to a politician, housing becomes an issue. I find that to be strange, just a strange notion that we don’t have enough places for people to live. Yeah, right. Like that’s that’s a little weird. Even if

Johnny Olszewski 40:59
you can live, actually affording where you live, right? So if if cost of living is a is a big issue, which it is, and housing is now taking up for working professionals up to 3040, 50% of your salary, that’s that’s a real problem. And so finding ways to make housing more affordable is really important. Congress, there’s been one big bipartisan bill that’s passed Congress this year-it’s called the Road to Housing Act. My first piece of legislation-I mentioned bipartisan-bipartisan legislation was included in that, the Reside Act, and basically it’s a grant to local governments and state governments to take vacant commercial buildings and vacant industrial buildings and convert that into additional housing opportunities. More housing in the right places brings down costs, creates more places for people to live. Pretty simple.

Nestor Aparicio 41:45
They gonna turn East Point Mall into one of them data centers.

Johnny Olszewski 41:48
I heard that they’re looking at making it more of a shipping and logistics center.

Nestor Aparicio 41:53
That’s my mall, you know.

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Johnny Olszewski 41:54
I know. They will sell my soul

Nestor Aparicio 41:57
for a slice of Picado’s pizza right now. Play a little Donkey Kong over there back in the day, Aladdin’s Castle. All right, last thing for you. So I wrote my clone. This is my AI thing for Johnny O here. This is the one I’m going to ask you that because my clone knows me and it knows you. Yeah. Right. And what do we really have in common?

Johnny Olszewski 42:13
Uh huh.

Nestor Aparicio 42:14
Thundo. Right. So we’re here at Casas. So it says here Johnny O serves on the House Foreign Affairs Committee, including the Africa and East Asia Pacific subcommittees. I did not know that about you. Okay. Well, I have to look you up on the internet. I mean, I know you as sort of like school teacher Baltimore County guy. So it gives this to me in my voice. I’m going to do it in my voice. You’re Johnny O from Dundalk. You taught school. You ran Baltimore County, county. Now you’re sitting in classified briefings dealing with China, Taiwan, which is a word you can’t say in China because I’ve been to China and I know that Africa, which I’ve never been to, but I’d like to go and wars. What have you learned about the world that you simply didn’t understand as a county executive? That sounds like a good town hall question, doesn’t

Johnny Olszewski 42:58
it?

Nestor Aparicio 42:59
You’re running for office, Johnny. Oh, tell me?

Johnny Olszewski 43:01
The world is big and it’s complicated, but it’s also interconnected. And so, what happens with things like going to war impacts what’s happening at home.

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Nestor Aparicio 43:12
I went all over South America and I saw Trump’s face with all of these awful things everywhere I went, and I’m thinking, oh, my passport’s U.S. Maybe if these cops are going to rob me right now, they probably are well within their range to do whatever because I’m the ugly American, even though I’m not that ugly. But

Johnny Olszewski 43:28
you’re not ugly.

Nestor Aparicio 43:29
Pulling the passport out in seven different countries in South America, yeah, and seeing whatever looks I got when I did,

Johnny Olszewski 43:34
yeah,

Nestor Aparicio 43:35
tough, tough, really tough. But the you know the AI race

Johnny Olszewski 43:39
is real between U.S. and China, the the fight for influence and and therefore strategic strength in the world is real as America is pulling back. But I’ll just say it’s been pretty rewarding and remarkable to be just a kid from Dundalk who was fortunate enough to teach in the schools and lead the local government to now be traveling the world and having these conversations. Where have you

Nestor Aparicio 44:06
been lately?

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Johnny Olszewski 44:07
I’ve been to Kenya.

Nestor Aparicio 44:10
Okay,

Johnny Olszewski 44:11
so spent some time. First time in

Nestor Aparicio 44:12
Africa.

Johnny Olszewski 44:12
First time in Africa.

Nestor Aparicio 44:13
That that always changes your whole. There’s nobody that goes to Africa and sees whatever Africa is you can’t come back. Yeah, yeah. You can go to poor places. You can go to poor places here, but it’s different. That’s right. It’s different.

Johnny Olszewski 44:24
I’ve been to I’ve been to Taiwan.

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Nestor Aparicio 44:26
All right. I’ve

Johnny Olszewski 44:27
been to South America. Was in Peru recently. So the fact that you

Nestor Aparicio 44:31
said Taiwan out loud means you’ll never go to China.

Johnny Olszewski 44:33
Correct. I’m already on their list. That’s fine. But I will say this: I also carry the thing that too many people forget is to carry home with them, and that’s what I love about growing up here. Is that I will never forget where I came from. That’s why I love to be sitting here. I sit forward booth here, where I grew up, right? And to never forget. So like to be able to go to the farthest reaches of the world, but to be able to come home and never forget sort of what you’re grounding. And really, sort of like the place who made you. What it’s all about. All

Nestor Aparicio 45:02
right, my clone. I have better questions next time. I promise I’m turning it up. Johnny O’s here. He is our congressman. Anything you want to say about running for office or re-election? Any vote? Just

Johnny Olszewski 45:13
it’s hard, but you should do it if you’re not already doing it. Every vote matters. I won my first race for county executive by 17 votes. If you were undecided, I’d be honored to have your support this upcoming election, November.

Nestor Aparicio 45:25
Where’s your district, everybody?

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Johnny Olszewski 45:27
We are most of Baltimore County, almost all of Baltimore County, a little piece of Baltimore City, Mount Washington, Roland Park, Hamden, Hun. The other place you can say Hun enrolled a little bit, and then we have most of Carroll County as well. All

Nestor Aparicio 45:41
right, check it out. Support the American process. People like him are down in D.C. with varying results. We’ll all say and and good pride. I appreciate you, man. Thanks for coming by. I always say about electeds, and I’ll say this to your face, her, anybody else listening, anybody out there. The people that come here and sit here are the people that I vote for or consider voting for. If you don’t sit next to me, I ain’t voting for your ass. I’m telling you that right now. No matter who you are, even if you sat with me here before, because I’ve had people that sit here that have been ducking me lately, and that really bothers me as a citizen, as just somebody who’s supported people. It’s accountability and showing up is that’s 99% of like getting my vote, just in a general sense, showing up and being accountable. You know, I voted for Republicans, I voted for Democrats. Anybody knows me knows that. So I appreciate you showing up. I appreciate you always answering the call. I did always you and Kwesi, different people that I know that answer the call and come on the program. I’m appreciative. So our friends at Maryland Lottery are also appreciative of everything we’re doing around here to bring light to stories and people and rock and roll and football happening. It’s all brought to you by friends at the Maryland Lottery. I have Raven scratch-offs to give away at the bar here. We’ll be at State Fair in Catonsville on the 24th. We’re coming to Pizza John’s, but I might postpone it because they got this little concert down in Ocean City. Yeah, I had Mark Bryan from Hootie and the Blowfish on this week. He’s like, “Dude, you got to come down and see the band, man. And I’m like, “Do you know what hotel rooms are in Ocean City? And I’m like, “All right, so we’re gonna punt on Pizza John’s and push that into October for my birthday, so I get some birthday pizza. We’re gonna come back, do some more. We’re Costas Inn. It’s all brought to you by the Maryland Lottery, GBMC, and Farnin and Dermer, and we’re in Dundalk, which is where you come when you want crabs. If you want the jazz musical Wednesday night with Carl Filippiak, you go to Timonium. I’ve had Johnny O there both times. You’re close to home now. You can get out of here. Back for more. We’re Costa. Stay with us. We’re Baltimore positive.

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