What took Nestor so long to get to Arbutus?

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What took Nestor so long to get to Arbutus?

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Our friend, sponsor and consigliere Bill Cole of Cole Roofing and Gordian Energy considers the Sorrento of Arbutus cheesesteak and crinkle cut fries a legitimate food group in his locally-based business so when Nestor got the invite to do the Maryland Crab Cake Tour near his Worldwide HQ in Southwest Baltimore, this one got tasty and spicy. But, shrimp on a cheesesteak? What’s going on over there…

Overview

Nestor Aparicio and Bill Cole discussed their long-standing relationship and Cole Roofing’s 20-year sponsorship of WNSD. Bill’s business is in Violetville, near Arbutus, and he shared his history of moving there in 1997. They talked about their fitness routines, with Bill emphasizing his daily workouts and Nestor’s yoga practice. They also discussed the importance of reliable news sources, particularly the WNST tech service, which has 5,000 subscribers. Nestor proposed a contest for memorable WNST texts, and they planned to attend the Mako event in Ocean City, emphasizing the value of networking and business connections.

• [ ] @Nestor Aparicio – At the Mako event, whenever a meaningful conversation with a prospect creates a reason to follow up, pull out a phone and schedule a follow-up meeting for next September.
• [ ] @Nestor Aparicio – Obtain the accurate current subscriber count for the WNSD tech service and share the real number with Bill Cole.
• [ ] Continue brainstorming and refine the WNSD tech service contest/app concept (including prize ideas and how to leverage it to grow the subscriber base) before the Mako trip, so it is ready to discuss in person.

Cole Roofing and Arbutus Connection

• Nestor Aparicio introduces the segment, mentioning his long-standing relationship with Jim Schwartz and the sponsorship of Cole Roofing with WNSD.
• Bill Cole explains that his business is technically in Violetville but is adjacent to Arbutus.
• Nestor and Bill discuss the location of Violetville and its proximity to other towns like Nottingham and Lansdowne.
• Bill mentions that his office is 200 feet from the city line and describes the Amtrak train that runs nearby.

Cole Roofing’s History in Violetville

• Bill Cole shares that his family moved their business to Violetville in 1997.
• Nestor Aparicio and Bill discuss their frequent visits to Sorrento of Arbutus, with Bill preferring cheesesteaks over pizza.
• Bill mentions that he and Nestor are having cheesesteaks for the first time at Sorrento, celebrating Cheesesteak Day.
• Nestor talks about his diet and health, mentioning his sponsorship with GBMC and his recent colonoscopy.

Health and Fitness Routines

• Nestor and Bill discuss their fitness routines, with Bill mentioning his daily workouts and Nestor’s yoga practice.
• Bill talks about his struggle with running and his recent interest in rowing as a form of cardio.
• Nestor shares his experience with yoga, emphasizing its mental and physical benefits.
• Bill and Nestor discuss their different approaches to exercise and the importance of finding activities they enjoy.

Networking and Business Events

• Nestor and Bill talk about the upcoming Mako event in Ocean City and the importance of networking.
• Bill shares his strategy for booking follow-up meetings during events like Mako.
• Nestor mentions his conversation with Kate Parish from Accelerant about the value of networking and business events.
• Bill and Nestor discuss the changes in their drinking habits and the impact of social events on their health.

WNST Tech Service and Memorable Moments

• Nestor introduces the idea of a contest around the WNST tech service, asking for memorable moments when people received important texts.
• Bill shares his appreciation for the tech service, especially for updates on game postponements and player moves.
• Nestor recounts his experience of breaking news about the Ravens’ schedule at the Liars Luncheon.
• Bill and Nestor discuss the significance of major news events like the death of Len Bias and the Anquan Boldin trade.

Trust and Reliability of News Sources

• Nestor emphasizes the importance of trust and reliability in news reporting, especially in the context of the WNST tech service.
• Bill and Nestor discuss the challenges of verifying news in today’s media landscape.
• Nestor shares his pride in maintaining the integrity of the WNST tech service over the years.
• Bill and Nestor talk about the impact of major news events on their personal lives and memories.

Cole Roofing Services and Solar Solutions

• Bill Cole explains the services offered by Cole Roofing, including commercial roofing, repairs, and preventative maintenance.
• Nestor mentions the need for a new roof at the station and praises the work done by Bill’s team.
• Bill discusses the benefits of solar energy and the challenges of navigating the complexities of tax credits and electricity rates.
• Nestor and Bill talk about the importance of reliable and efficient energy solutions for businesses and homes.

Final Thoughts and Cheesesteaks

• Nestor and Bill wrap up their conversation, discussing their plans for the rest of the day and their excitement for the cheesesteaks.
• Nestor shares his preference for a traditional cheesesteak, while Bill suggests trying a shrimp cheesesteak.
• Bill and Nestor talk about their upcoming plans for the Mako event and the importance of enjoying the experience.
• The segment ends with Nestor and Bill heading to Sorrento of Arbutus to enjoy their cheesesteaks.

Nestor Aparicio 0:00
Welcome home. We are W N S T A M 1570 Towson Baltimore. We are Baltimore positive. It says so all over my face. It is our final segment. We’re here at Sorrento of Arbutus. And yeah, I think a lot of things when I think Arbutus, I think of like I used to see it on TV. It’s a funny word, you know, like Arbutus is an interesting thing, maybe how you would pronounce it, like Tosin or Dundalk, but I’ve been through here a couple times, Jim Schwartz and I have had a 31 year relationship now, where it’s been a source of great pride for him and great consternation for me that I get to make fun of Arbutus, having never been here, I’ve never done the show here, but the other Arbutus angle is Cole Roofing is a two decade sponsor of WNSD. Are you an Arbutus business? What are your like adjacent bit? What are you, your 242 number, right? Yeah, that’s a Lansdowne kind of number,

Bill Cole 1:01
very technically we are in Violetville, but like the

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Nestor Aparicio 1:04
hell is that real?

Bill Cole 1:06
That’s that’s how we, nobody from Violet, how we roll. So Nottingham, technically no, I think Nottingham is much more significant than Violetville these days. But you got a post

Nestor Aparicio 1:16
office,

Bill Cole 1:17
I mean, I guess, all right, Violetville,

Bill Cole 1:20
yep, but it’s our previous adjacent show. John Martin plays a game,

Nestor Aparicio 1:23
Maryland Lottery, every week because they have winners from all these places, right? Like last week he came up with Dunkirk. Do you know where Dunkirk, Maryland? He, whenever we get a place, he’ll be like, do you know where you know someplace you’ve never heard of? If you’d have given me Violetville,

Bill Cole 1:39
yeah, you wouldn’t have got that.

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Nestor Aparicio 1:40
I know Lauraville.

Bill Cole 1:42
I only know it because there was a volunteer fire department, like at the end of our road, and it was the Violetville volunteer fire department. So that’s the only reason I know that our address is Baltimore. Like, are you in the city or

Nestor Aparicio 1:54
in the county?

Bill Cole 1:55
We are in the county, but literally 200 feet from the city line.

Nestor Aparicio 2:00
But you’re not in Lansdowne, you’re not in Arbutus, you’re not in Halethorpe.

Bill Cole 2:03
Nope,

Nestor Aparicio 2:04
you’re not in Baltimore Highlands, that would be on the city side, right?

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Bill Cole 2:06
Nope,

Nestor Aparicio 2:07
Lenthick comes on the Anne Arundel County side, right? Dude, I lived in Perry Hall, White Marsh, Nottingham, and Carney, I don’t know the difference,

Bill Cole 2:17
so the Amtrak runs like we’ll call it 500 yards that way

Nestor Aparicio 2:25
toward the brewery

Bill Cole 2:26
between my office is literally like 1000 yards that way, but there’s a train that runs in between here, so you have down this way, you got to go up that way to get here. Yes,

Nestor Aparicio 2:42
I remember the train coming through Arbutus as being part of the issue of Arbutus. Right,

Bill Cole 2:47
yeah.

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Nestor Aparicio 2:47
How many years has your business been in Violetville slash I’m gonna call it Arbutus? I say, where’s your business? You’ve always said it’s our abuse. I think

Bill Cole 3:01
I really don’t even say that anymore. I say St. Agnes, saying that you know where St. Agnes Hospital is. Yeah, I’m like right behind there. That’s what I tell people. That’s the easiest landmark. So,

Nestor Aparicio 3:11
all right, Sorrentos.

Bill Cole 3:13
Yeah.

Nestor Aparicio 3:14
How long has your family had this business in this location?

Bill Cole 3:18
So we moved down here in 1997

Nestor Aparicio 3:20
so 29 years. How many slices of pizza or meals have you had at Sorrento?

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Bill Cole 3:26
We’re really cheesesteak guys. Oh, okay. All right, come to Sorrentos, we’re doing cheesesteaks. It’s Cheesesteak Day.

Nestor Aparicio 3:32
I did not know that.

Bill Cole 3:33
Yeah,

Nestor Aparicio 3:33
it’s that good.

Bill Cole 3:34
I mean, it’s great. Yeah, I mean, I haven’t had it yet. It’s great.

Nestor Aparicio 3:37
Today’s my day.

Bill Cole 3:38
Yeah,

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Nestor Aparicio 3:39
I came here for the crab cakes. I’m gonna leave with the cheesesteak.

Bill Cole 3:41
Yeah, I mean, they, you know, it’s the whole.. it’s, you know, it’s like there’s something to be desired from consistency, and you know, we know we’re getting, we know the fries, we know the cheese. Like, you want Sorrentos? Yep, I don’t even have to tell them what I want, like they just do it, like we got it on like they have a cheese

Nestor Aparicio 4:02
steak here, then

Bill Cole 4:03
I’m my problem. Has anybody had it? No, I don’t know. My problem with that is that I try not to eat as many cheesesteaks today as I did maybe 10 years ago.

Nestor Aparicio 4:13
I’m talking about it,

Bill Cole 4:14
but I love cheesesteaks, like my nickname in high school may or may not have been Billy cheesesteak, so like I would not not eat a cheese steak to go take an adventure with a shrimp cheese steak, right? Like I would

Nestor Aparicio 4:30
just go to say straight, so I should just get a traditional to start with.

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Bill Cole 4:34
What we should do is we should ask him to do a shrimp one and a cheese stand. We’ll cut them in half and I’ll give you half of this and a half of that, because I wouldn’t mind trying it, but I never, but I would be disappointed to have not had the regular one, you know,

Nestor Aparicio 4:47
if you’re getting a cheese steak tonight, you’re pissing off your wolf and your cardiologist, GBMC is sponsoring me these days, and I’m thanking God, because like I had to put. Olips with the colonoscopy, I mean, I know I’ve looked sexy and healthy, and like all that, but I had to call, and only because Christina and Greg did a sponsorship with me. Then I’m like, all right, I’ll do the damn colonoscopy to get the sponsorship, you know? Yeah, I’ll give the blood, I’ll get the appointment, and then I got my A 1c back. You want me to read from my chart, you know what I mean.

Bill Cole 5:22
Nope, you think of me as

Nestor Aparicio 5:23
being really healthy guy, for you do right, do. And

Bill Cole 5:27
there are parts of your life that I aspire to have, like you’re.. I can’t do the yoga thing, but like I wish I could. I know I could, but it has.. I haven’t figured out how to work it into my life yet, right?

Nestor Aparicio 5:37
What are you doing? The extra, your wallet, you’ve lost, you look great.

Bill Cole 5:41
Oh, I work out every day. You’re

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Nestor Aparicio 5:42
working out every day,

Bill Cole 5:43
every day.

Nestor Aparicio 5:44
What does working out mean for you?

Bill Cole 5:45
Sometimes it can be running. I mean, I’m playing a fitness sponsor,

Nestor Aparicio 5:48
so I can work on all those machines. I get it, you’re doing a traditional,

Bill Cole 5:52
yeah,

Nestor Aparicio 5:53
but what do you enjoy?

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Bill Cole 5:55
I don’t.

Nestor Aparicio 5:56
None of

Bill Cole 5:56
it. Yeah, pretty much none of it. Like that’s when

Nestor Aparicio 6:00
I hated most of that. No offense to Planet Fitness or The Wire, any machine or any PE. Like, I’ve just done all of that all my life. Yoga is a different thing for me, because of the relaxation, the mental part, the turning the phone part off, the you against you part. The fact that nobody grades me, nobody tells me I hit the ball, didn’t hit the ball, the ball was in or out or foul. There’s no golf involved. It’s sweaty, it’s nasty, it’s gnarly, it’s unbelievably challenging, unbelievably challenging for an hour or an hour and 15 minutes, and when it’s done, it is exhilarating, and I don’t have to run, it doesn’t hurt my knees, I don’t bang, I’m not on some stairmaster, I don’t have a headset on, because I wear a headset for a living, so I don’t want to, like, jog and listen to music or anything like that, you know. Although I love music, that’s what I love. I’m selling you on my yoga. What, what about

Bill Cole 6:54
I.. I love music, so that it certainly helps. I am easily bored, so I want to change exercises, like a whole bunch, right? And, like, I like running, like running is really enjoyable for the first, like, three minutes, and then after I can, like, from three to, like, eight or nine, it’s pretty, like, I want to quit, but then if I can get through that eight or ninth minute, then I can run for a half hour if I want, so, and I know lots of people struggle with running, like joints and stuff, so I’m really the bank, my knees feels

Nestor Aparicio 7:30
to be able to do, you know, I walk more than anyone. What’s the other notion of me running 1000 feet instead of walking? It feels like, why, and it also feels risky for me to be bouncing on a reconstructed knee, so that’s what, but I need to do something right. I was gaining weight, my back was screwed up. I mean,

Bill Cole 7:52
if I could wave my magic wand, I would play basketball once or twice a week.

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Nestor Aparicio 7:58
Sure,

Bill Cole 8:00
I am currently in a real struggle with golf, like I thought for a long time that I was like an average golfer, and if I ever just like committed a little bit, I could probably be okay. And now I’m pretty much convinced that I’m terrible, so that’s.. I’m really struggling with that. How often are you

Nestor Aparicio 8:16
playing?

Bill Cole 8:17
Not a lot. Well, that’s why you’re enough. That’s

Nestor Aparicio 8:20
why you’re terrible.

Bill Cole 8:21
I thought I kind of could just go out and like make my way around, and maybe 28 you could do that, not it’s

Nestor Aparicio 8:27
48

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Bill Cole 8:28
It’s been a, it’s been a challenge. I mean, I love that. That is a lot more enjoyable now that I’m in pretty good shape, like, well, it’s not better, it’s worse, but I can.. I’m not exhausted. You’re stamina, yeah? Like, I’m not exhausted. I like it. Maybe I’m my body’s changed. Well, I mean, I lost some weight, better shape, and like all

Nestor Aparicio 8:52
that. You probably would have thought that would equate to a better golf game. Give a shit about your golf game, and I don’t, right? That’s, you know, I really only care about one thing, this, like, literally being a competitive way, and I’m not even competitive with this in the way that I would bag on PAO with the fan all day, because it’s too easy, but I mean, like, I could be a real competitive jerk, and as Stan Charles, I am, but I’m not anymore, I, you know, I’m 57 I’m mellowing out a little bit, I think the yoga has helped me mellow out a little bit, like, and certainly, and when I talked to Kate about this, I did a whole thing on the yoga earlier, the sleeping part, I mean, look, we’re all trying to find a better quality of life, we’re all trying to be happier, healthier, sharper, better than we used to be, even though we’re getting older and we’re falling apart, we’re trying to find ways to be smarter or more efficient AI, you know, whatever it is. I just think it’s crucial that whatever you’re doing to be healthier, I shouldn’t even say physically fit or whatever, that you’re enjoying it, that’s when I promote Planet. Fitness, man, my wife is going to Planet Fitness five. She’s going to Maine all month. She has.. she.. she said to me when she went to Planet Fitness a month ago, she’s really getting in good shape, and she’s a walker, and she’s a superstar. She needed to find five or 10 items in the gym that were pieces of equipment that she liked, because if you don’t like

Bill Cole 10:21
it totally,

Nestor Aparicio 10:22
you won’t like going to the gym, you won’t like doing it. So, to me, whatever it is that you enjoy doing, it’s just crucial for anybody out there that is not unhealthy. If you are unhealthy, you want to get healthier. The most important thing I can do is not say go to the gym or do yoga or run track or lift weights, it’s find something physical that you absolutely love doing, even if it’s just walking, find something you love doing.

Bill Cole 10:49
Yeah, I mean, I would just say that a slightly different way. For me, it, it was, I started rowing like I don’t know, machine, yeah. Okay, and I don’t really know why, like I didn’t want to run, like that seemed like a terrible idea. Why would I run? The rowing was much easier. You kind of sitting down, right? So, but I built up enough better cardio that all of a sudden I would try running. Running wasn’t that, wasn’t that as bad. Yeah, I puts it as bad, because for me it’s all about I’m just looking to do enough that I can tolerate the outcomes have been so rewarding. See, I’m

Nestor Aparicio 11:27
looking to make it good and rewarding. Yeah,

Bill Cole 11:30
that would be measurable reward. Yeah, that would be playing basketball or playing soccer or running around with my kids or swimming in the pool, like if those things would be enjoyable. Playing a sport would be more swimming in a

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Nestor Aparicio 11:42
pool sounds like fun to get in shape,

Bill Cole 11:44
kind of. I don’t know, kind of struggling with that too, like it’s kind of like barely not drowning. You’re not my.. you just got to get, you got to remember how to really do it and start to do it well, and practice it a lot, I think. But John

Nestor Aparicio 11:59
Allen, I was out with him last time went to Black Crow’s, he played drums in Child’s Play two weeks ago on the stage in the reunion. Awesome, and you know he’s getting a little older, like me, and he said that he got, he’d been singing for an hour, and then they put it behind the kid, and he said he got halfway through the second song, and his arms didn’t want to do it. Yeah, he said my arms just didn’t want to go anymore, right? And he’s a drummer, you know. So, yeah, and you don’t want to get

Bill Cole 12:27
there, right? Like, you don’t want.. I don’t want to land there. I.. what has it’s been the outcomes that are rewarding? It keeps me going, so I find things that I can tolerate that I’m willing to do, right. And then I never believed people that said you have more energy, I have way more energy in my days now than I, you know, used to.

Nestor Aparicio 12:48
You didn’t believe that that was possible. Yeah,

Bill Cole 12:50
that if that, if I exercise really hard in the morning, that somehow my day I have more energy throughout my day. That is, that’s counterintuitive, doesn’t make any sense to me. It’s illogical, right?

Nestor Aparicio 13:00
That your body would get better over time, and you really would have that benefit,

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Bill Cole 13:04
that the 2o’clock like just lots of caffeine. I mean, I still, I still drink a lot of caffeine, but you know, I don’t know, it’s been really fun. I just tell people, look to your point, find something you can do, just start with anything that you can tell. Weather’s

Nestor Aparicio 13:23
getting better, too. You know, it’s winter, it’s way harder in winter. Don’t you agree?

Bill Cole 13:27
Oh, yeah.

Nestor Aparicio 13:28
I mean, dude, we had that ice thing out, that ice cap for three weeks. That was just not, I want to go out and work out, or I want to go to the gym. That was, I want to pull the covers over my head and make hot chocolate,

Bill Cole 13:39
true. But to the point of being bored easily. I mean, I, during the winter, I got a jump rope, and I was jump, jumping rope in my garage, just that’ll kill you for something different. Yeah, jump rope is really hard. Yeah, man, it was hard to do when I was 13, super hard, super hard. But, but I just got to find different stuff. My buddy Andy

Nestor Aparicio 14:00
Caplan just and Gus Caplan just my Greek buddies in Colgate, they were in boxing training,

Bill Cole 14:05
sure,

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Nestor Aparicio 14:05
and they like this is the rocky era, late 70s, and we were like chasing

Bill Cole 14:10
chickens, dude, they were so

Nestor Aparicio 14:11
impressive, their jump rope skills, like the way they could just, they did it the way like it, and whenever they would bring a jump rope over, like, oh, girls, jump rope, and you do it for five minutes, you realize, wow, this is really..

Bill Cole 14:25
it’s legit.

Nestor Aparicio 14:27
I haven’t jumped rope in years, that sounds like fun to me.

Bill Cole 14:32
It’s.. it’s infuriating,

Nestor Aparicio 14:34
because you’re gonna get your feet tight. Yes, yeah, and

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Bill Cole 14:36
you’re like, you finally find the rhythm, and you’re. and it’s really getting hard, and then you grab your, your heel, and you’re like, God, I saw just the feeling of doing that. I haven’t done that in a long time. It’s fun. I want to do

Nestor Aparicio 14:49
that at the beach with you, but it’s

Bill Cole 14:51
fun. Bill Cole

Nestor Aparicio 14:53
is here, he may or may not see me at Mako. I got a whole story for you, Minko. And then,

Bill Cole 14:58
all right,

Nestor Aparicio 14:58
How much you think those booths. Are that they want to charge me for this year to not do my podcast?

Bill Cole 15:03
I don’t know, that’s sounds like a story.

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Nestor Aparicio 15:05
Sounds like an annual coal roofing sponsorship to me.

Bill Cole 15:08
Yeah, okay.

Nestor Aparicio 15:08
For two days on the floor in Ocean City. All

Bill Cole 15:10
right,

Nestor Aparicio 15:11
sounds like you and I might be having some extra orange crushes. It at, are you going? I’m

Bill Cole 15:17
definitely going. It’s going to be a killer year. We got like a super good crew, going.. there’s a lot of people that are gonna be down there. We’re gonna.. we’re gonna.. we’re gonna figure it out really good. So I

Nestor Aparicio 15:26
gotta go,

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Bill Cole 15:26
I think. So I got my room. I’ll put it to you: you don’t have to go. If you go, you’re gonna have a good time. You’re gonna meet a lot of really good people. You’re gonna do a lot of good business. My also my philosophy.. well, then you

Nestor Aparicio 15:38
just taught me into going.

Bill Cole 15:39
I know Ocean City. That’s kind of.. let me show

Nestor Aparicio 15:41
you a picture that’s Ocean City. It’s Ocean City.

Bill Cole 15:43
So, the rule that I’ve adopted for this Mako trip is that no

Nestor Aparicio 15:48
drinking, right?

Bill Cole 15:49
Oh no, definitely not the rule. The rule is, if you talk to someone and there is a reason to have a follow-up and you have a meaningful conversation. You have to pull your phones out and book time to get together next September. In September,

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Nestor Aparicio 16:09
okay?

Bill Cole 16:09
Because what the normal play is, I’ll

Nestor Aparicio 16:12
call you when I get home, or I’ll

Bill Cole 16:14
send you a note when I get home, and you know you do see him

Nestor Aparicio 16:16
next year. You do, but then they got a

Bill Cole 16:19
follow up, and then everybody gets back in the office, and then September, and then you end up with a date in October. Let’s go, bro. Yes, because if you get that date in October, by the time you get a good conversation going, it’s Thanksgiving, and it’s done. And then you got to start in January again to pick up that momentum again, and then you’re, you know, you’re trying to get done before the spring, all right, dude. I mean, I

Nestor Aparicio 16:42
just sat here with Kate Parish from Accelerant a couple hours ago. We talked about her yoga. Kate does yoga, and

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Bill Cole 16:49
she’s also, from what I hear, I have not witnessed it, but one hell of a karaoke singer, and does it down the beach. She had her favorite places down the beach.

Nestor Aparicio 16:58
She and I have never discussed karaoke.

Bill Cole 17:00
Yeah, well, we

Nestor Aparicio 17:00
have to go to Waltz in, so we have to do.

Bill Cole 17:03
She is apparently very, very good.

Nestor Aparicio 17:05
Well, I know she’s an improv actress. I know this about Kate, so we’ve been down that lane. But yeah, so you know, she came by earlier, and we talked about accelerant, we’re talking about Mako, we’re talking about business and networking and all that, and the value of all that, and it’s, it’s, I turned the Mako thing around, and you immediately went into Bill Cole, serial networker, business community guy, put her together of people, you immediately went into that, you’re coming to Mako, won’t be the same without you, you’re on the team, we’re gonna have the best people there, you’re there, that’s who you are at heart. You just talk me into, because I’m still kidding. I’m like, I don’t think I’m gonna go, and now you’re like, it’s Ocean City, dude. You’re going

Bill Cole 17:50
right. I just came from meeting the guys down at CFG, because you know they’re working hard, trying to get people in the building, and trying to figure out corporate sponsors. They’re getting me there for Bryan Adams on august

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Nestor Aparicio 18:02

9. I’m going to be there,

Bill Cole 18:03
and yeah, they said, “Oh, we’re going to, we be at Mako. Like, yeah, it’s like, okay, yeah, like watch the work we can do in Mako. See, the

Nestor Aparicio 18:12
best part about this is that you honestly, you’re not going to portray me as any sort of a saint, okay? If there’s a heaven, I’m probably getting in. I met a pretty good human, but I probably drink less than most people you know. When we’re away, you would agree with that, right? And it probably started that way when I was your designated driver, like five, six years ago at the beach. That

Bill Cole 18:34
true story, that you..

Nestor Aparicio 18:35
well, I mean, and the true story is, I was bud sponsored, Miller sponsored, core sponsored. I had two alcoholic parents, you know. My mom liked to drink beer as well. I like to drink beer. I like to drink. I’m a happy drunk. I’ve never had a DUI, DU, anything. I’ve never punched a girl, punched a boy, called. I am a peaceful drunk, but I, the hangovers, as I’m getting older, it’s just.. it’s over for me. I mean, dude, it’s just over for me. I took one look at you and Ryan Ripken in Vegas, and I realized, no, it’s not for me. But what I want to say to you is, I drink less every year, and I began at a level where I could drive you. The only thing about Mako that I say to you, and this goes for Mako, for anybody out there that does some partying, and this isn’t like an AA conversation, because I do drink. I had a drink last night. I’ll have a drink. I’m having two tonight. I like to drink. I just, my life’s better, a lot better when I only have one or two at maximum ever, and that third or fourth one, even at a Black Crow’s concert, or even in the parking lot at a Rush concert last week in LA. It’s just I can’t drink at that pace anymore, and make Mexico’s a drinking event, you would admit, right? So, like,

Bill Cole 19:53
yeah, but we’re changing, but we’re, but we’re changing that, and look, I totally can’t change it. Yes, she starts

Nestor Aparicio 19:58
in the bar at midnight.

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Bill Cole 20:00
It does, but that doesn’t mean that I have to have a cocktail.

Nestor Aparicio 20:02
Yeah, I don’t either, right? That’s all saying,

Bill Cole 20:04
so I, I like to think that today the world is changing. Maybe it’s because I’m getting

Nestor Aparicio 20:11
drinking less. They are, they are,

Bill Cole 20:13
and I have a wide spectrum of friends who go from don’t drink it all by choice, don’t drink it all, because we told them that they needed to stop all the way up to people who drink a lot, and nobody’s probably sure, right? And they seem to do well, or you know, like all, so some

Nestor Aparicio 20:32
of them even own professional sports teams. I’m totally around to tell them,

Bill Cole 20:36
right, I’m totally okay with whatever flavor people want, and they need to be courageous and choose to do it, whatever pace and speed they want, right. It isn’t about the booze, it’s not about the booze. I definitely think the boos make it easier because some people just aren’t great in social environments, and then you, you land in some people, make it harder, like

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Nestor Aparicio 20:59
I see them when they’re sober, and I like them, and then I run into them after 10 o’clock in Vegas, and they’re a complete instant jerk off, right? And I’m like, I ran into a guy at a concert last night who was so rude to me in Vegas that I didn’t even speak to him last night, because I’m pissed, and he was so drunk that I don’t think he knows how pissed I really am about

Bill Cole 21:18
it. I struggle with the people who I literally can’t understand what they’re saying to me, which is usually a sign that I’m just going to bed because I’m not catching up ever. Is the night you

Nestor Aparicio 21:33
were really hammered and I was really sober, and we’re on that deck party at like 18th street, and I’m talking to the server and a young girl comes up to me and she says, dude, you got any weed? And I’m like, what are you doing coming to me asking me for you? You look like you have weed, man. Ocean City is like two years ago, and I’m like, man, Mako’s changed. Mako is really, really true. I don’t

Bill Cole 22:01
know if that was Mako at that point in the evening, that that might have just been general, and I

Nestor Aparicio 22:06
didn’t have any crew, and I wasn’t giving it to her. I had any, but

Bill Cole 22:09
you had the long hair, you had the nice looking shirt on. She definitely thought you were going to share your weeds. Well,

Nestor Aparicio 22:15
speaking of a guy with long hair with a good-looking shirt, this gentleman over here has a cheesesteak that I just, I want that cheese steak bad. He’s got a better ponytail than me. He’s offering it to me too. Don’t you do it, don’t do it, don’t make me end the show here with Bill, because I told him we’re ordering cheese steaks and I’m getting the show over. This guy’s got a cheese steak and french fries, I think that’s my sign that I’ve been here at Sorrento of Arbutus for six hours. Bill Cole of Cole Roofing is our final guest. He’s one of our great sponsors of our WNSD tech service. I want to throw this out at you, because I threw myself an email this morning. I’m a little bit like the Michael Keaton character in Night Shift, making little notes of myself. This is Nestor reminding build, you know, like that. So I wrote myself an email today. I was driving around, and this was my silly idea. I got to find it, because I emailed myself. How did I.. did I not? Did I send myself an email to my spam box? Either way, my idea was around the app, and around the WNST tech service, which I think they’re like 6100 people still on the service, could be wrong, might be less than that. You’re my sponsor, I’ll get you the real number, but it’s, it’s less than 10,000 and more than 5000 that that it hasn’t grown much in the last 15 years, and it hasn’t shrunk much. It’s one of those things we introduced early on, and you get it, I get it, I still get any time. I got one earlier today. We pitcher came, Helsley came off the DL, right? I want a contest around that with the new app that I’m going to put together with my vibe coding and all that, but what I really want to do is make it experiential, and I want to come up with a prize that could be like a man cave or something like that, but here is the premise. The premise is I want the best story of where you were when you remember getting a WNST text that was mind blowing,

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Bill Cole 24:12
right? Sure,

Nestor Aparicio 24:13
already Donovan died, someone was traded, the Anquan Bolden trade, you know, I try to think of places I was where my phone went off, and I’m like, oh my god, the Orioles traded, the Orioles signed Pete Alonso, what, whatever that was, because we’re 20 years into this service now, and you sponsor it. I don’t need an answer right now, I’m just giving you this to germinate on over less alcohol at Mako. We’ll talk about this at Mako.

Bill Cole 24:41
You don’t want me to even give you my just go first. Go ahead, good. My gut says the most, the craziest, mind-blowing text, if it existed, was Ray Lewis and the murder thing. That

Nestor Aparicio 24:53
was before that, that, that was before the tech service.

Bill Cole 24:56
Okay, okay,

Nestor Aparicio 24:57
that was before the tech service,

Bill Cole 24:58
because at that time in my life. This is probably a pretty big part. It’s a big

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Nestor Aparicio 25:03
story that happened today on my timeline. It was, are you ready?

Bill Cole 25:06
Yeah, you

Nestor Aparicio 25:07
sitting down. How old are you?

Bill Cole 25:08
48

Nestor Aparicio 25:10
was 40 years ago, Friday.

Bill Cole 25:13
Okay,

Nestor Aparicio 25:14
that Len Bias died.

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Bill Cole 25:16
Yeah, yeah, okay. So, Len by eight

Nestor Aparicio 25:18
years old. Yeah,

Bill Cole 25:19
so Len Bias for me is all stories told by other people, Dad, Grandpa, Joey, yeah, like, like all the stories, like I get, I have appreciation for it. Watch the Celtic documentary, like I like, I get it, because I’m a basketball fan, so I get it, but didn’t live any of it,

Nestor Aparicio 25:37
so that would have been,

Bill Cole 25:39
yeah, unbelievable. At 830 it was on.

Nestor Aparicio 25:42
I walked into the Sun newsroom. I was 17 years old. I was.. I’d been working there five months now. I had been at the news, other newspaper, so they.. we had a wire called Urgent. Urgent, yeah, sure, was it.. was it.. was a.. I don’t know how to explain it in computer verbiage from 40 years ago, but it was a wire folder. It was a folder, it was a full, no, not like that, it was a folder that, if there was a plane crash, if there was a hijacking, those, if there was an earthquake, right, and I’m giving you major global news, how about

Bill Cole 26:14
Atlanta Olympics bomb, absolutely, was that tech service, you think that

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Nestor Aparicio 26:19
was 1996

Bill Cole 26:20
so still not no tech service

Nestor Aparicio 26:22
started in oh 567 somewhere in there 56456567456 so so the tech service is 20 years old, it’s definitely 20 years old, right. So what I want to do is have fun around that and give away a prize, a really big prize, you know, worth 1000s of dollars to someone that’s already on the tech service, right. And if you’re on the tech service, you have an idea, send me, or even if you have a memory, well, they gotta send it, you gotta

Bill Cole 26:52
record a video, right, of them. I don’t know, I want to do something, I’m whiteboarding, I’m spitballing, but I want to do

Nestor Aparicio 26:59
something around the awesomeness of our tech service that would then lead to the app or the next thing to get more people signed up for it, that it’s so awesome you should be on it. It’s still so awesome, but it’s so awesome that we’ve created memories for these 5000 people that are on it. I would, I would like to think I could get 500 people that are on it to give me their number one memory to enter a contest to win something, and out of those 500 memories, I bet I get 30 or 40 different moments that people would remember about a trade about the Orioles signing of Baldo Jimenez, or just stuff that Danny

Bill Cole 27:40
Machado, yeah, like, so, so I will tell you, and unfortunately, my guess is 98% of the people that are gonna listen to this are already on the tech service, so this doesn’t help much, but, like, the mere fact that I can count on the text to come to my phone that the Orioles postponed the game because there’s a potential thunderstorm, and are rescheduling as a double header two weeks from now, or whatever. That’s gold. I don’t care if you’re never looking at another one. If you’re planning on going to the game that night, you’re not. You’re doing your day, you’re like you’re occupied, and that is a sort of Orioles don’t do for me.

Nestor Aparicio 28:20
Well, in a perfect world they would, if you example, I don’t know. I’m asking, like, if I, Rod Stewart, canceled a concert the other night at San Diego, right? Like, I was, I saw him in Vegas, I bought a ticket on Ticketmaster, I had my, my little code that moves, we all know what that is, right, little barcode, they know who I am. They know I’m coming. I’m on Ticketmaster. If I don’t have a push on Ticketmaster, I won’t get the notification right. I might get an email in my email box that says tonight’s show has been canceled. I would think the Orioles, when they move a game, if you’re on Birdland and you are sitting on tickets, but you might not get the push, you might not have the push on it, right?

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Bill Cole 29:03
Yeah, I don’t know, that’s weird. We’re in a

Nestor Aparicio 29:05
different space all the way around with all of this, and I think that I thought the tech service had sort of run its course that nobody would want it, but the minute it went away, everybody got pissed. Yeah, and then you sponsored it, and it’s like, okay, we’re three years into you sponsoring it. Bill Coles here from Cole Roofing, we were at Sorrento of Arbutus, we’re doing the Maryland Craft Gig Tour, and I’m just literally spitballing. And if you love our tech service, throw me an email, Nestor Baltimore positive.com I do want to do something contesty around the tech service, and around our 28th anniversary, and around how cool it is that we offer – that’s what local places can offer that other places can’t offer.

Bill Cole 29:37
I agree, I agree. No, I mean, I like that I get the schedule in it, you know, baseball moving off the DL, any of that, whatever. Okay, try

Nestor Aparicio 29:48
to be judicious when they’re taking the eighth reliever and moving it back to Norfolk. Yeah, I

Bill Cole 29:53
get it. Luke runs a tech

Nestor Aparicio 29:54
service. I have, I don’t have nothing to do with it, stuff

Bill Cole 29:57
with Lamar, and like it, like their stuff. Only stuff there, right, that happens that I appreciate, just getting the little head, but I,

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Nestor Aparicio 30:04
but, and I hear that, and it’s all a little blip, and it’s all a little speed bump, and I hear it, but when something major happens, when someone dies, when someone gets traded, when there’s true breaking news, in the sense of, like, oh my god, the oh my god moment, right, like that’s what I’m looking for over the tech service, because what inevitably happens. My favorite text I ever sent, Deb, I told you the story about Anita Marks and that era,

Bill Cole 30:30
maybe, probably, but you can tell it

Nestor Aparicio 30:34
won’t involves the schedule. You’ve already mentioned the Raven schedule, you know? I used to be a real, like, ball buster. Oh yeah, that pissed it cast off dramatically, right? So, this was in the era where I was really pissing them off and getting it, and early NFL Network, where they didn’t have the whole, like, they shut the whole world down and embargo at all, and teams make their web. This is 20 years ago, so whenever Nita March was here, because I remember famously seeing her do it, but I had the schedule in the morning, and I had it in my pocket, and this is before any, nobody else could get it. The Baltimore Sun wasn’t scooping me, Mike Preston’s lazy ass wasn’t, Jameson Hensley, I mean, I’m a real reporter, come on, stop, dog. So I had the, I had the schedule in my pocket, and it was the day of the liar’s luncheon, and we went after the liars luncheon at the facility, and I’m not even sure that they, it was even in, well, it had to have been in the auditorium then, but it always wound up in the cafeteria for the lunch part of the liar’s luncheon, right, but they never did the liars luncheon where you actually got lunch, it’s a press conference, and then a lunch, right? So we go into the Liars luncheon, and I think even during then Marvin Lewis was texting me, or Del Rio, I mean, everybody in the league, Mike Petten, Mike Smith, I mean, I had moles, Rex everywhere giving me schedules, and I would piece it together, at least get 12 or 812, 10, you know, I could get Pittsburgh and Cincinnati and Cleveland pretty quickly, because I had moles in all three of their offices. Then it was about filling out the rest of it, right? So I had this laptop that we’re recording, literally it was this laptop with me out at the facility, and I had it all, and I opened up the little folder to send the text, and it’s three texts to send the schedule, because of the characters, right. So I’m in the cafeteria with all of my peers, who all hate my effing guts, because I’m me. So Jerry Coleman’s over there, and Preston’s over there, and Jameson’s over there, and Scott Garza’s over there, and Viviano’s. They’re all in the room because it’s the liars launches. Everybody has to be there, right? And this isn’t the era when, like, there was real media. Kevin Byrne was still here. Billy wasn’t the coach. Hardball was the coach by then, so we’re into eight or nine or 10, or like that, and I had to schedule. I’m in the.. we’ve done the Liars luncheon, and my whole plan was this, because they were going to release the schedule, 6o’clock to Bal, which usually meant 5o’clock 5o’clock hour. They would leave Monday night, and the Ravens are playing in Pittsburgh, and the whole schedule’s coming on WBE, oh, exclusively an hour when it’s already been on your phone at 2o’clock which I love that. Right, I loved sticking it up their ass. I’m a competitor.

Bill Cole 33:29
Sure, who’s

Nestor Aparicio 33:30
your biggest competitor in the roofing industry?

Bill Cole 33:32
Yeah, I don’t know. Well, when you

Nestor Aparicio 33:33
beat them on a contract, are you happy?

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Bill Cole 33:34
Yeah, of course, you’re

Nestor Aparicio 33:36
right. Right, so I’m, I

Bill Cole 33:38
like to win. So this is me

Nestor Aparicio 33:39
being the prick that I am, one of the reasons they hate me is that I had the laptop and I sat where I could look at everyone. I sat, I purposely sat at the circle tables where I could look at the whole room, and I think Glenn Clark was working for me then. I don’t, might have been Casey Willett, it wasn’t Ryan Shell yet. It certainly wasn’t Luke, but I was in.. I’ll ask Luke if he wasn’t Luke. Luke wasn’t with me yet, I don’t think, but I told them I know Drew was around, and I’m like, I got the schedule, and I want.. and I hit send, and when I hit send, I want you to look up just to see who was on the text service, right. This is a total. I’m glad I’m telling this story, because it’s so awesome. It speaks to my dirty, prickish soul. So, and the fact that I love breaking news, and that news, how speaks

Bill Cole 34:36
to community, and speaks to me

Nestor Aparicio 34:38
wanting to be first, and wanting to be best, okay, because I’m a prick about that, even though I don’t talk about it much, matters a lot. So I’m sitting in the.. I’m Michael Jordan when it comes to all that, right? Yoga is

Bill Cole 34:48
helping with this, I think. We just covered that, the mellow part, you know, just calming that down a little bit, you know. It’s yoga, the yoga that’s helping. You

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Nestor Aparicio 34:58
want me to breathe?

Bill Cole 34:59
No, no, you. Good, you may do some, you’re getting wound up. That’s good. You would do chance. Let’s go.

Nestor Aparicio 35:03
So I get the schedule, and it hits send, and it hits send, then hit send, and I watch all their asses go off, like all the buzzers, all the.. they’re all checking, and I looked up, and they’re all checking their phone, and there’s a fellow in the corner looking at me right now, and they were all just looking at me, and I just look down like this, and I’m like, like I’m ignoring them, but they all got it first. Sure, so that’s the legacy of my text farms. That was fun.

Bill Cole 35:28
That is fun.

Nestor Aparicio 35:29
That’s my favorite tech stores. That’s my favorite tech service story.

Bill Cole 35:33
That’s a good one,

Nestor Aparicio 35:33
but I.. I’m trying to think if I.. when I’ve gotten my text without knowing it, like when I’ve been shocked a lot of times. Luke will get a death or something when someone dies. It

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Bill Cole 35:48
tells you I

Nestor Aparicio 35:49
don’t know it. The other thing my tech service has told me, I’ve been in segments like this with doing where I put my phone down and something really big happens. The ownership change of the Orioles, I think, happened. Luke, text that out. Death of Peter Angelos. Death of Peter Angelos happened when I was on a causeway in Florida, four years, three years ago, whenever it was Sunday. I was driving around Florida, and I got the text from Luke, not, not. Hey, Peter died. I got it from the WNSD tech, so I learned of Peter’s death on my tech service.

Bill Cole 36:27
Yeah, I’m gonna say that mine is gonna end up being like I’m gonna have to go back and look at events that occurred 15 plus years. The Anquan

Nestor Aparicio 36:39
Boldin trade happened to me when I was in Arizona. I was there with my wife on spring training. I was thinking I was working on the book that never happened, and I got the text when I was in front of their stadium. I was in Glendale, Arizona, in front of the Arizona Cardinals stadium, and I got the text, which I did not know about.

Bill Cole 36:59
Yeah, that’s cool. And I’m

Nestor Aparicio 37:00
like, oh my god, Ozzy traded for Anquan Boldin. Oh my god, so it’s that, that’s what I’m looking for in this contest. So, if there’s anything I could spur on for you, it’s not what a prick competitor I was to Anita Marks and all the rest of those pretenders over at the fan. It’s it’s the fact that we’ve broken news in a way that’s memorable, and I want people to know about how good our effing brand is. That’s all.

Bill Cole 37:27
And you know this about me, like, for that, for that to stick, right? And for me to remember where I was, it has to be something that is emotionally moving that I’m connecting it to

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Nestor Aparicio 37:41
remembering where you were when Kennedy was shot, correct. 911 is a good one. You’re like, I

Bill Cole 37:45
can tell you that whole day, pretty much sports, professional sports in my life has had a diminishing value going on 15 to where

Nestor Aparicio 37:58
Len Bias dying that day was monumental, right? Right to where, like, I

Bill Cole 38:03
like Ray Lewis and the murder thing, like that was at the pinnacle of my fanhood of the Ravens.

Nestor Aparicio 38:12
Right?

Bill Cole 38:12
Right. Today I don’t even.. Justin

Nestor Aparicio 38:15
Tucker, we sent a text ad on that.

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Bill Cole 38:17
Yeah,

Nestor Aparicio 38:18
who cares?

Bill Cole 38:18
Uh, no, that was. that was crazy, right? I mean, he, he was here a long time, he was really good, like that was pretty terrible, like,

Nestor Aparicio 38:28
agree,

Bill Cole 38:28
yeah. So that Ray

Nestor Aparicio 38:30
Rice saw, all happened on our tech service,

Bill Cole 38:33
but I can’t tell you where I was, yeah, right, right, right, like that was terrible, right, and shocking, and like, but I can’t tell you where I was, like I can tell you my 911 day, right?

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Nestor Aparicio 38:46
Right,

Bill Cole 38:47
and like maybe none of this compares to your 911 day bias thing

Nestor Aparicio 38:50
for anybody of that age. Sure, 8o’clock in the morning, 9o’clock in the morning, it was just unthinkable,

Bill Cole 38:58
you know. 36

Nestor Aparicio 38:58
hours after he was drafted, it was unthinkable,

Bill Cole 39:01
sure. I think maybe this, when, when this is terrible, sort of morbid, but you know, I don’t really mean it. But, like, one day Ray Lewis is going to pass away.

Nestor Aparicio 39:11
Well, Brooks, dying, I mean, yeah, those moments already, sure.

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Bill Cole 39:14
But even Brooks, Johnny,

Nestor Aparicio 39:16
you, that wasn’t on our tech serves at Mendo One, that I was on the air when that happened. I was literally on the air trying to get it confirmed,

Bill Cole 39:23
right, but, but none of those, like, yes, important people, famous sports in our lives, but not like in my life, like Ray Lewis in the prime, right, yeah, right, so like, sure, when that happens, Goose

Nestor Aparicio 39:39
died, and Goose is a good

Bill Cole 39:42
one, that was shocking,

Nestor Aparicio 39:44
shocking, right? Yeah, it wasn’t sick, totally right. It was shocking,

Bill Cole 39:48
and I definitely had a love affair with Goose, right? Like, he was,

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Nestor Aparicio 39:50
see, for me, he was all that was a different story for me. I got a text from Luke that said there are some reports on the internet from. Some people in New Jersey who look to be friends with the Sarah Goose family, right? That this has happened. I immediately reached for my phone and text Goose,

Bill Cole 40:10
yeah,

Nestor Aparicio 40:11
and started calling Goose, because I wanted to pick the phone up,

Bill Cole 40:14
right? Yeah,

Nestor Aparicio 40:15
right, right. You know, you wanted to be wrong, sure. And I was on York Road when Luke hit me. I pulled into the Lytle parking lot at Padonia to try to confirm it, because I’m a news guy. You know what I mean? Like, that’s what I do. I try to confirm news. You

Bill Cole 40:28
also have a better memory and awareness of your surroundings as these things are going on. Like, I don’t know that I remember what parking lot I pulled in. That’s the Mary Lou Henry. I mean, my wife would tell you I have

Nestor Aparicio 40:41
a strange, yeah.

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Bill Cole 40:41
So I don’t know that I’m gonna nail this for you in any of this. My buddy Mark

Nestor Aparicio 40:47
Miller, you’re your buddy, I could

Bill Cole 40:49
piece it together. Mark

Nestor Aparicio 40:50
has known me my whole life, and Mark said something. We were pizza John’s with old friends. Mark said something to me the other day. He’s like, like, dude, you remember stuff, you’re like more than any person I’ve ever met in my life. You’re very Mary Lou Hannah, and it doesn’t feel that way to me. Sure, to my wife it feels freakish. Yeah, sure. My wife is like, you are her, you’re weird, you remember every moment of your life, every color, every girl, every boy, everything, every deed, every beach, every hotel, every room. You know, I don’t, I just don’t, you know, like it’s

Bill Cole 41:22
the best for me. Well, part of my Rain

Nestor Aparicio 41:23
Man, that makes me me.

Bill Cole 41:24
Like, I have probably kept a good enough schedule, and I guess maybe Outlook will let me go back far enough that if I get the date of when Syracuse, I might be able to take pictures, so we can remember, maybe able to piece it out. I don’t do that either, though. I’m very much like be in the moment. The

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Nestor Aparicio 41:41
last thing on the text, and then I’ll let you go get a cheese steak. Is there being the person on the inside who was trying to verify Tony Syracuse’s death? Sure, while Luke is like, I ain’t sending the text to, we know, because we’re friggin’ reporters, we’re not hacks from the Baltimore Sun. You know what I mean. So we are, we don’t, we’ve never sent a false text. How about that? 22 years, so fake news, f you. So, but when those things happen, and I become the person that has to confirm information that is different than when someone does die. In Luke, I right now, my phone, I could turn it over to something weird, awful, morbid, or even wonderful might have happened. We might have traded somebody, you know, whatever. Right, those are the moments I love about the tech service, and I guess that’s.. I’m giving up. I’m doing a big brand pitch for my tech service as to how cool and awesome I think it is, but I think it’s cool and awesome with 5000 people still on it. 20 years later, you’re sponsoring it. It could be bigger and better and more awesome, and all that, but what I want to do is just figure out how awesome it is, and figure out if other people have associations to those moments when they got the WNSD tax brought to you by Cole Roofing to show you more value, so I can inevitably charge you more for the promotion.

Bill Cole 42:57
Right on. Let me help you with that. I think it’ll be fun. I think it’d be fun to get people to do videos. You might need to throw, yeah, you mean stimulate, you may need to stimulate it with, like, where were you when this happened, right? That might, that might be how people put a story. Yeah, that might help people.

Nestor Aparicio 43:16
And the other part of it is, and I’ll leave it with this, because this, I’m glad we did this segment, because I literally was thinking about this like four hours ago. The other part of this is when I put something on Facebook, anything that’s outrageous, which could be anything Shitler says on any day. Did he really say that? Was that a real tweet? Probably, maybe. Is it really horrible? Then he probably did it. So we’re all trying to figure out what’s real and what’s not, in a general sense, when guys are beating the shit out of each other on the lawn in the White House, and we’re making it, that’s that’s entertainment for America’s 250 that that’s so outrageous that if I told you that 10 years ago, you’d be like, there’s just, you’re making that up, I would bet against that, right, so when I put crazy stuff up on Facebook, that’s true. People are like, is that true? And I’m like, dude, I’ve never.. I take such amazing pride in not being a whoreish monger of half facts or rumors of any kind, so when I reported, people were like, is that true? And I’m like, oh my god, there’s nothing more insulting than for me to present a fact, especially about sports.

Bill Cole 44:34
Yeah, but you can’t, don’t you can’t be insulted because that’s their universe, so we can give them a little bit of my universe, fair enough, but that comes from the universe.

Nestor Aparicio 44:42
If it comes from me, that’s my brand. Well, you

Bill Cole 44:45
should just have an auto response that says it’s true like it’s been true for blank years. Pretty much what I said. I pretty much say,

Nestor Aparicio 44:53
like I’m a real journalist. You’re forgetting that. I would not put it out here and say, does anybody know? Or what everyone knows, which is I’m hearing, I’m hearing, if I write, I’m hearing that means it’s a fact, that doesn’t mean whatever I’m trying to stir up something,

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Bill Cole 45:09
but every other organization that they’ve had in their life that was truthful, that is now no longer truthful, right, they, they get the right to ask you that. Well, it’s because we can’t trust 60

Nestor Aparicio 45:23
minutes, right?

Bill Cole 45:24
The newspaper, the 60 minutes, the ABC, the NBC News, the bits, it’s a bit, CNN, the Fox News, all of them,

Nestor Aparicio 45:30
right?

Bill Cole 45:30
Right, everything, everything on your phone, everything, that’s what makes us a

Nestor Aparicio 45:34
trusted resource. Then, when the WNSD tech service comes and says someone’s dead, they’re really dead, or when they’ve been traded, they really been traded or signed, or whatever,

Bill Cole 45:43
unless the Max Crosby thing, that’s where I was going. Ravens forgot to do something, that was the biggest text of our year. It was, I was gonna bring that one, I

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Nestor Aparicio 45:54
forgot about that.

Bill Cole 45:55
Yeah,

Nestor Aparicio 45:56
well, there’s your biggest text ever, right? This year,

Bill Cole 46:00
right? That feels lame. That it just happened. The Ravens

Nestor Aparicio 46:02
just traded for Max Crosby. What NSD is reporting it’s got to be true. Oh,

Bill Cole 46:07
we give away like two, unless Eric DeCosta confirmed lie. What do we do? Yeah, maybe,

Nestor Aparicio 46:12
maybe Eric DeCosta’s the liar, and Nestor’s the one telling the truth. Maybe crazy,

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Nestor Aparicio 46:16
Bill Cole, he’s here. You know, you love him, he’s Cole Roofing. You want horses, you want boardwalk, you want crustaceans and animals, or do you want Bay Bridge? I know you want a key bridge that’ll help all of this, but oh

Bill Cole 46:29
my gosh, tell me 21 I’m gonna go horses, horses for my boy Schuler, because he’s a horse guy. All right,

Nestor Aparicio 46:35
for your.. I think he took a horse one last month too. Bill Cole’s here, he’s called Roofing and Gordian Energy. Tell everyone what you do, and is it true that you have the Solex agitator bond?

Bill Cole 46:45
No, no,

Nestor Aparicio 46:47
man, with the gold. I got you

Bill Cole 46:48
tracked you commercial roofing, so that is exactly what you think it is like.

Nestor Aparicio 46:54
Not sexy

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Bill Cole 46:55
repairs, if there’s a leak in your building, we can fix it. We like to do preventative maintenance, so that it doesn’t leak in your building, and then any kind of roof replacements, new construction stuff, all that’s all this

Nestor Aparicio 47:07
hot in that tar. Yes, it’s getting

Bill Cole 47:10
tough. It’s getting tough out there, but we’re having, you know, I need a new

Nestor Aparicio 47:13
roof at the station. Your guys got up two years ago, and they’re like, so now every day I’m like, and when I hear something, I had a couple of moths in that. I better call Bill, and

Bill Cole 47:25
you’re all right for a little while. I think you’ll be all right. It’s coming. You think I do. Grooves are definitely one of them things where, like, go riding to the

Nestor Aparicio 47:34
end,

Bill Cole 47:35
don’t break it if it ain’t, don’t fix it if it ain’t broken. Like, once you start messing with it, then it’s going to kind of like always be a problem, so because of the way, say

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Nestor Aparicio 47:46
you pull the hair out, it goes back stronger.

Bill Cole 47:48
Well, there’s actually some science there, right? Like it’s asphalt, and these things sort of fuse together over time, and then you don’t really want to disrupt it, and you start breaking, you fix something over here, and it pulls something over there, so it really about asphalt on here, not really, but you went there, so and then we do commercial, my ass fault, right? We do, we do, there’s a bunch of T-shirts in there, I think the roofers would love commercial solar, so I mean, right now I get pictures from people who are opening their mail, and got this like lovely letter from BG saying that, hey, don’t freak out if blackouts happen, and here’s why your electricity rate’s going through the roof, and I mean it was a really scary letter, actually

Nestor Aparicio 48:36
almost like you live in Texas or something,

Bill Cole 48:37
yeah, or just like I don’t know, aren’t we sophisticated and like mature adults that we’re just gonna like handle this and not let it be a problem? Like, shouldn’t we be able to solve this? So, considering that, like, without power in three days, like society collapses, so it’s pretty high priority, I would think. But anyway, we help people figure that out. Three days,

Nestor Aparicio 49:03
shit, four hours, I got to eat the ice cream, then it all goes to hell.

Bill Cole 49:06
I mean, it’s a rapidly degrading, like, curve. So, yeah, I mean, there’s tax credits and all this other wild and crazy stuff that, that has made it, I think, almost too complicated, and has kept people away from trying out. Yeah, okay. So we really, I think, my guys do a really, really good job of trying to get it to, like, simple. This is what it would look for, like for you. This is what it costs. This is when you get your return. Like, does it make sense? Yes. No. Yeah, it really is all right.

Nestor Aparicio 49:42
Well, Bill Cole’s here. You can find him for solar, you can find him for corporate roofs, and you can find him for asphalt. It’s not my fault. And how’s your whoop doing? Okay,

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Bill Cole 49:51
yeah, no, really good.

Nestor Aparicio 49:52
All right, we’re gonna go wreck it right now with some cheese sticks. We’re at Sorrento of Arbutus. I’ve swallowed a lot of aggression and pride. He’s. While a lot of cheesesteaks here at Sorrento, I’m leading him here. I want Crooked Cut fries and gravy, but don’t let me do it. Don’t let me do the cheese. It’s what we do. I’m just gonna do the cheese day. I got us, I got a Greek salad and grilled chicken. I ordered grilled chicken today.

Bill Cole 50:17
Good for you.

Nestor Aparicio 50:18
Yeah, doing that again. Back from our word, Sorrento’s. It is the Maryland Crab Cake Tour. Stay with us. Luke’s on the West Coast, staying up late. We got baseball.