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With no Roquan Smith and no early answers for Justin Herbert and the Los Angeles Chargers, Luke Jones and Nestor discuss the Ravens slow start and big finish in a balanced 30-23 win at SoFi Stadium. The scoreboard now reads: John Harbaugh 3, Jim Harbaugh 0 in HarBowls.

Nestor Aparicio and Luke Jones discussed the Baltimore Ravensโ€™ impressive 30-23 win over the Los Angeles Chargers on Monday Night Football. They highlighted the Ravensโ€™ defensive performance, particularly the 123 yards allowed in the first quarter compared to 162 for the rest of the game. Malik Harrison led the team in tackles, and the defense held the Chargers to zero plays of 20 or more yards. Offensively, Derrick Henry had 101 yards after contact, despite not scoring a touchdown. The conversation also touched on the Ravensโ€™ penchant for aggressive fourth-down decisions, exemplified by going for it from their own 16-yard line with two minutes left, which led to a touchdown and a significant momentum shift.

SUMMARY KEYWORDS

Ravens win, slow start, impressive victory, defensive progress, Malik Harrison, big plays, road performance, Derrick Henry, running game, Lamar Jackson, fourth down, risky decision, playoff hopes, physicality, Thanksgiving

SPEAKERS

Luke Jones, Nestor Aparicio

Nestor Aparicio  00:01

Welcome home. We are W, N, S, T am 1570 Towson, Baltimore and Baltimore, positive. Happy Thanksgiving to everyone out there celebrating. I hope youโ€™re eating pumpkin, a mince meat, sweet potato, apple, apple with a little like raisins in it. Do it all a mode is the best way. Uh, Curtis, of our friends at wise markets, our friends at Maryland lottery are sending us out on the Maryland crab cake tour. I will have Raven scratch offs to give away beginning next week. I should be wearing my Coco shirt. Weโ€™ll be at Cocos next week. Uh, also going to be at gertrudes, at the BMA next week. The entire schedule out at Baltimore positive com, as well as this good looking guy whoโ€™s not as tired as he usually is on a Tuesday morning out on the front of Baltimore positive but Late Night Football. We sit around watch football all weekend. Hey, donโ€™t blink, dude. Theyโ€™ll be playing again in 48 hours, right? Like all day long Thursday, half the day on Friday, and then the ravens are going to see the eagles on short rest on Sunday. But feels a lot better when you win. It feels a lot better when youโ€™re running the ball. It feels a lot better when you could win a game without roquan Smith, um, impressive victory on Monday night. Theyโ€™ve had a lot of them, um, but this is just the latest one. A good win for them.

Luke Jones  01:16

It definitely was. And I think when you just said it, I expected the Ravens offense to back, to bounce back, another slow start. Youโ€™d like to see this team figure out, or get back to coming out of the gate fast the way they were earlier in the year. You know, they still scored 30 points, so you canโ€™t quibble about it too much. But I think for me, when you come into this game on the heels of the Pittsburgh game and the perceived progress there, we talked about it a lot in our pre game conversation. You need to start stacking defensive performances that indicate some progress, and thatโ€™s not an easy thing. When youโ€™re missing row Quan Smith and youโ€™re looking at the candidates behind him, whether itโ€™s Malik Harrison or Christian Welch or Chris board. More responsibilities for Trenton Simpson. I mean, that was shaky, and early in the game, it looks shaky, but you have Malik Harrison step up. He was the primary, primary guy responsible for doing that. Led the team in tackles, very physical, certainly not someone that you look to, that thatโ€™s going to shine in past coverage, but thatโ€™s most linebackers in todayโ€™s game. But I just I was encouraged by seeing this defense settle in after that opening touchdown drive. And you see how that looks. You see how the first quarter looks. Think they gave up 123 yards in the first quarter, and they gave up 162, the rest of the way. I think you know, this was a defense that had given up big play after big play after big play throughout the season, two good quarterbacks and bad quarterbacks, good offenses and bad offenses. So to limit the chargers to zero plays of 20 or more yards. Thatโ€™s encouraging to me. You know, I think Troy Aikman said, said it best during the telecast, in saying that what weโ€™ve said for a few years now, this is a Ravens team thatโ€™s judged by whatโ€™s going to happen in January, and youโ€™re trying to size them up, and youโ€™re trying to make progress. And obviously you have to qualify and you need to win games, and when youโ€™re seven and four in danger of going seven and five, you canโ€™t be thinking about the playoffs as much. But when you go on the road after a road loss in Pittsburgh, and you play like that, you improved eight and four. The signs were positive to me, and for me, it really started on the defensive side of the football, because itโ€™s one thing to play well at home. Weโ€™d seen this team play well at home at times this year, but until these last two weeks, you really couldnโ€™t point to a single performance on the road where you said, Oh, this defense played really, really well for 60 minutes. Theyโ€™ve played well for 60 minutes. You know, not perfect football, but theyโ€™ve played well over the last two weeks. And for me, thatโ€™s the formula. They donโ€™t need to be elite. They donโ€™t need to be the 2000 ravens, or the 2011 ravens, or anything like that. Just be better. Donโ€™t give up the big play. Keep it in front of you. Make tackles for the most you know. Make tackles you know. Donโ€™t miss too many tackles, donโ€™t commit too many penalties. Theyโ€™re still working on that last part, but I was encouraged by what we saw and you said it. I mean, this was some really nice win eight and four feels a lot better coming home knowing youโ€™re going to face probably your biggest test of the of the regular season. You know, the remaining games in the regular season. You know Pittsburgh as well, of course, but this Philadelphia teamโ€™s playing as well as anyone in football, so for them to get that win on Monday night, knowing the challenge that they have now on a short week, that that said something to me, and I was like I said, most impressed with how this defense hand. Old not having roquan Smith on the field.

Nestor Aparicio  05:01

I think every week weโ€™d like to think that Derek Henry is going to look like. I mean, you saw Fast Times at Ridgemont High the guy thatโ€™s six foot eight and everybodyโ€™s five foot 10, and everybodyโ€™s trying to tackle him. Um, it certainly felt like men versus boys at various points. And it doesnโ€™t always feel that way. It doesnโ€™t feel that way on every run, when he gets stuffed, but it does feel like when there is some space, and you could get Derek Henry into space. So much is made in the broadcast of putting Lamar in space, and Iโ€™ll hear that all day long, too. Theyโ€™ve been trying that for seven years, to some degree, the idea of both of them in a running attack, even with a team that coming into this, they didnโ€™t allow a lot of points. They didnโ€™t play great teams, but theyโ€™ve been a stingier defense, certainly at home, it felt that way early on. Jordan stouts out there punting early in the game, and the light went on in the running game. And you and I talked so much before Derek Henry got here, and I was tweeting that he would save them and change them. I think He changes them when they they give him a chance when theyโ€™re first and 20 and first and 25 you know, after leg whips. You know, the running game is not the running game at that point, but in first and 10 base offense, whatever their base is, and him running and getting four yards, six yards, eight yards, and putting them in second and two, second and four, you know, second and one. You know, whatever we are first in the next batch, moving the change and the running game. I liked what I saw on Monday night in a way that I havenโ€™t liked it in a couple of weeks well, I

Luke Jones  06:41

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think we talked about it going into the game, that this was a chargers defense that for as well as theyโ€™ve played, theyโ€™ve been a defense that really likes to play too high they like to use light boxes. And we talked about how is that going to look against the Ravens offense that figures to test that with Derrick Henry and the running game. And from

Nestor Aparicio  07:00

the high camera. They safety comes running up, and Henry just runs by him, right, right? You know, coming up to the line of scrimmage, you know, after snap, post snap. Thatโ€™s not a great plan on Derek. Henry really isnโ€™t well,

Luke Jones  07:13

see, the problem is, is really not a great plan. Thatโ€™s what makes this offense in general, right? I mean, weโ€™ve seen some teams in recent weeks bottle up, Derek Henry, way more and to your point, when youโ€™re in first and long and second and long, no oneโ€™s going to operate well from that, thatโ€™s why the penalties have been such a big drag for this team on either side of the ball. Steelers last week. Yeah, yeah. I mean, itโ€™s, itโ€™s a big reason why so. But I think when you look at how this game started, they fall behind 10, nothing. I thought the first 10 minutes of the game or so, they did not match the physicality of the Chargers early in that, in this football game, and that was unnerving to me, you know, understanding you werenโ€™t going to have roquan Smith on the defensive side and what that could mean and on the offensive side because of what we just said, you fall, fall behind 10 Nothing. Whatโ€™s that going to mean for your running game? Are you going to get away from it too quickly? Are you going to continue to commit penalties and be in first and long and second and long like they were last week. But I think after that, those first couple drives, they really settled in, and the physicality really started to swing in their favor, I think for Derek Henry, Iโ€™ll say this. This wasnโ€™t his best statistical game in terms of just yardage total, and itโ€™s the first game all year. He did not score a touchdown, of course, but he had a season high, 101 yards after contact per pro football focus. Theyโ€™re tracking. I didnโ€™t think their run blocking was good, let me be clear. Iโ€™m not saying it was bad, but I thought this was a game where Derrick Henry really took it to another level from a physicality standpoint, in getting extra yards and running through tacklers using two stiff arms on one play, those types of instances where you have a short yardage play and it looks like you might not pick it up, and he picks it up. So that was great to see. To your point, it was good to see their run game kind of look a little more like it did earlier in the season. Not Not that itโ€™s struggled. I mean, you look at their numbers, I mean, theyโ€™re number one, right? And theyโ€™re number one, you kind of look at how theyโ€™ve done there. I mean, the lions and the Ravens, and then kind of everyone else running the football this year, throw the Eagles in there as well. Sorry, I should not disrespect saquon Barkley this week, but I just think Derek Henry really ran through a lot of tackles. And I think as the game went on, the Ravens were really able to lean against the Chargers team. That I still think is good, you know? I donโ€™t think this is a case where the Chargers were fraudulent. I just think you saw that the ravens are a serious contender, and they were. Weโ€™ve known that even after the Pittsburgh loss, you know, I think as frustrating as it was and youโ€™re not ready to write. Anything off or dismiss any of those possibilities, but I think you saw the Ravens look like a serious contender, getting a really quality win on the road, and really leaning into physicality on both sides of the ball after the slow start. And I think you saw a chargers team that hadnโ€™t really faced anything like this, right? You know, going back to 25 years ago, Ray Lewis would always say about the defense, you know, they donโ€™t know how fast we are. Brian Billick would say they donโ€™t know how fast we are. This offense is has a similar mindset, from the standpoint of, weโ€™ve talked about this with Lamar for years. You know, you can prepare for it with a scout team, running back or wide receiver playing quarterback, but until itโ€™s Lamar Jackson out there, you donโ€™t really have a good grasp on how tough it is. Derek Henry, same thing.

Nestor Aparicio  10:48

You see it when Lamar runs away for defensive tackles and defensive ends, in a way thatโ€™s almost like a fly. You know what I mean? Like flicking a fly like you canโ€™t catch Lamar and spades, and I donโ€™t think front sevens in general, linebackers in linemen. Think Iโ€™m fast. I can catch a tight end, I can catch a running back. I could catch maybe even Derek Henry, if not Keaton Mitchell, somebody thatโ€™s a sprinter right, catching Lamar in space, even the move he made at the one yard line, and Iโ€™ve said to you, be careful, because he stopped short and doesnโ€™t move out of bounds. And he was going to score there, but he went down to the one yard line. And I was a linebacker, safety that came as a linebacker that came across at the one yard line and sort of over pursued, and Lamar just stopped on the hash mark at the one yard line and just walked into the end zone after a linebacker over pursued tremendously. And I think when these guys who do this professionally go back and watch their film of how they played Lamar, everything youโ€™re talking about is I thought I had him how many defensive lineman, specifically big, strong guys get in on him and get a hand on him and canโ€™t get the ball him down. He dirts the ball, he eludes them, and they never get a clean shot on him, which it goes back to why I wouldnโ€™t have drafted him, running into linebackers like, literally, for whatever reason, heโ€™s, heโ€™s like, Teflon. Well, thereโ€™s 31 other GMs that didnโ€™t draft it. Oh, they were done too well. There was two years ago where every team in the league could add them and look at the COVID Anyway, letโ€™s not go down that road. Well, we well, but weโ€™ll be doing that for the right No, we can go down that road because you can do that the rest of our lives, because nobody wanted him, and because I donโ€™t know how this showed up on film or doesnโ€™t show up on film, I know he makes fools out of Pro Bowl caliber Hendrickson, different guys that get out on him and feel like they have Hubbard, a couple you know that they get out on him and theyโ€™ll be telling their grandkids about it, because they still havenโ€™t caught him. They and he still hasnโ€™t been hit hard in seven years in the league. He hasnโ€™t been Joe Flacco getting hit by the Kiko Alonzo. He hasnโ€™t had that happen in space. And heโ€™s always in space. Always in space.

Luke Jones  13:10

Not easy to hit a moving target, right? I mean, itโ€™s, you know, and obviously, all it takes is one, but yeah. And I think, you know, there, there was that play at the goal line, which everyone, if you saw it on social media, everyone was putting up the video of him doing that same thing to a kid in high school, right? Same exact thing. And I think thatโ€™s whatโ€™s so impressive, because youโ€™ll see lots of highlights of pro athletes doing things like that in high school, because theyโ€™re that much better. But when you do it in the NFL and youโ€™re you remind yourself, wow, these are the very best in the entire world, and he still does those things. Itโ€™s amazing. The other play that really stood stood out to me. I think it was, it was one of their defensive tackles, I think was tart, who was unblocked. God, Lamar just kind of casually sidestepped him, casually he it was almost like you could almost see Lamar laughing in real time.

Nestor Aparicio  14:01

Thatโ€™s what Iโ€™m talking about. That play there is I get in I should at least be disruptive. I mean, they should at least disrupt the play, just so you donโ€™t have a successful play. It should at least be an incompletion, if not a sack, if not a stack strip, if not an injured quarterback, it should be something other than six points the other way, or whatever that play wasnโ€™t. But whatever that play was is a positive yardage play, but, but

Luke Jones  14:27

this is, this is what makes this offense so incredibly difficult. When you start with that, what Lamar Jackson does physically, what the demands that he puts on a defense, the stress that he puts on the defense. It makes Derek Henry that much better. It makes their play action passing that much better. It makes their wide receivers and tight ends that much better. It helps their offensive linemen block, even though, yeah, there will be some plays where Lamar will scramble into pressure, things like that. Weโ€™ve seen that thereโ€™s, thereโ€™s a cost to doing business with with that over the course of you. 60 minutes over the course of a 17 game season, but itโ€™s, you know, heโ€™s the centripetal force here. Heโ€™s what makes everything work. And thatโ€™s why I wanted to give Derek and Henry some extra props, because some of these games where heโ€™s put up massive yardage go back to the Buffalo game. The very first play remember, runs for the touchdown. He wasnโ€™t touched on that play. And so much of that just has to do with, okay, Buffaloโ€™s run defense and light box, all that you can say that, but itโ€™s because they have to account for Lamar Jackson in the way that other quarterbacks donโ€™t put that kind of pressure on you when theyโ€™re just handing the ball off. So for Derek Henry, like I said, 101 yards after contact on Monday night. It speaks to not that the blocking was bad, far from it, but it speaks to it was really a game where the Ravens needed to lean on physicality, and they did that, and they did that effectively, and thatโ€™s something that they didnโ€™t do against Pittsburgh nearly as well, in addition to the penalties and and all the miscues and all that. So it was just good to see that. But just in general, you know, going back to the Lamar thing, I mean, theyโ€™re so difficult to defend because they do so many things so well, and I think thatโ€™s where, for me, Iโ€™m not shocked by what they did offensively on Monday night by any means, because weโ€™ve seen them do it basically every game except the Pittsburgh game this year. But thatโ€™s why, seeing the defense do what they did, and I and I keep saying, it doesnโ€™t have to be an elite defense. It doesnโ€™t have to be great. Just be solid. Be solid. Keep the ball in front of you, donโ€™t give up the big play, donโ€™t bust coverages, donโ€™t commit penalties, although theyโ€™re still committing penalties. But well, getting off the field on third down is crucial for them. Yeah. I mean, itโ€™s just but, but thatโ€™s a chargers team that chargers

Nestor Aparicio  16:53

had a third and 13. They converted earlier, third and five. They, you know, they were converting and talking about converting ravens on fourth down from the 16 yard line. I mean, I donโ€™t know what the hell he was thinking, but I mean it worked out. Like, I mean, on a night when bad decisions worked out, I would say, you know, and even even things like, when Andrews caught the ball, Jim, I keep saying hardball, the Chargers should have challenged that. Iโ€™m not convinced he had possession of the ball on his hip when his No, no, no. Iโ€™m talking about before the touchdown, early in the game, oh, the first touchdown drive. Iโ€™m talking about No, no, the one where they were disputing whether, yeah, I think the referee didnโ€™t. There were three different colors of the turf there, okay, from where the back line was and there were logos, and I saw it the same way. Iโ€™m like, Whatโ€™s the outline? You know, whereโ€™s the white? Whereโ€™s whereโ€™s the chunk? Because there were three lines where his feet went down in the end zone. Now Iโ€™m talking about early in the game, first quarter. There was a play at the side. Andrews had sort of possession, sort of not sort of one foot down, sort of two feet down. I want to challenge that. Just to slow the thing down, he had time outs. It was second quarter. The Ravens still werenโ€™t scoring at that point. Um, I thought that that was kind of a weird not challenge in the game. But in a general sense, the Ravens did everything they wanted to do once they got going, which is run, run, run, run, run, and but the the the act the fourth down, going from the 16 yard line with two minutes left to go, like, that was a bad decision.

Luke Jones  18:31

I mean, it worked out, but it was a that was a really, that would have tipped the field if something would have gone wrong on that fourth down. And they went back. They thought about it. They thought about it. Was time out. They come out, they did it anyway. And Iโ€™m like, wow, you know, I wouldnโ€™t have done it. But the analytics community has said for years that if itโ€™s fourth and one, like, weโ€™re talking fourth in inches, weโ€™re not talking fourth in a long 1/4, and 2/4, and three. If itโ€™s that short yardage, analytics have said for years to go from basically anywhere outside your own 10 yard line. Now, I wouldnโ€™t have done that. Letโ€™s be clear. Iโ€™m not going to sit here and say that. I would have, you know, signed off 100% oh, letโ€™s do it. But a couple factors there. One, if your running game is so important, as youโ€™ve talked about over and over and over and over, run, first run, first run, first run, first Derek Henry, this. Derek Henry, that all that if your running game is that important and that great and that valuable, and you canโ€™t pick up that fourth down in inches from anywhere on the field, how important is it? Then, how good is it? Then, how well they lost because they couldnโ€™t

Nestor Aparicio  19:33

get, they couldnโ€™t get two yards, and didnโ€™t have Derek having on the field

Luke Jones  19:37

situation at the shore. And again, thatโ€™s, you know, thatโ€™s a different situation than what weโ€™re talking about here. But my point with that is one, if you have a run game that is as great as you think it is, and has looked use it. And the other factor here, and I think this is where it really plays in at that point in the game, what a chart. Majors. I think had had, was it three possessions at that point? Touchdown, field goal. Youโ€™re really wondering how many points are going to score at that point in time. Youโ€™re really having trust issues with your defense at that point in time. I think if, if John Harbaugh knew his defense was going to play the way it did the rest of the game, he probably punch the football there, but at that point you donโ€™t know that, right? I donโ€™t think anyone was looking at the game when it was 10, nothing. I donโ€™t think anyone was thinking that the Ravens were going to hold the chargers to under 20 points until the very last touchdown at the end of the game. So,

Nestor Aparicio  20:33

so I think that was exactly points from the 16 yard line. You know, youโ€™re not playing about points there. Youโ€™re playing about we were playing keeping the ball right? We want to keep the ball, but if we give the ball up here, itโ€™s seven, weโ€™re giving the ball a 10 yard line, you know, as opposed to, letโ€™s punt it out of here and give him the ball in the other 30 or 35 if we get stabbed with a good pun. And letโ€™s play two minute defense and put our defense back on the field. Thatโ€™s what 31 other coaches would have done. Thatโ€™s what, not 31 coaches. 1030 thereโ€™s no coaching in football. Dundalk high anywhere that would have gone fourth and one for the 14 yard limit to half minutes left to go. Like I just Thatโ€™s not normal. Thereโ€™s nothing about Iโ€™ve never seen that before. Iโ€™ll probably never see it again, because it probably wasnโ€™t a great idea. It worked, and they scored a touchdown, and Henry breaks the play and and because you have that ability, but from a decision making standpoint, it was screwy.

Luke Jones  21:31

I mean, sure thatโ€™s the easy thing to say, but they scored a touchdown there.

21:34

I mean, look at all the fame and his brothers. I mean, thatโ€™s the thing. If weโ€™re

Luke Jones  21:39

going to crush the bad decisions, then we have to at least give credit on what works right? I mean that we have to be fair and that way. Again, would I have done it? No. But at the same time, you kind of look at how theyโ€™ve operated, and in that way, with the fourth down decisions, it kind of reminded me of the 2019 team. You know it kind of, well,

Nestor Aparicio  22:00

they went home because of that and against the chargers, right? They pulled that crap at home here against the charger. They did that all year Nestor, and they didnโ€™t mean that was part, and that was part of the end of their season, though, right? Okay, okay, but, but

Luke Jones  22:14

I hear what youโ€™re saying. Iโ€™ll say this. Just

Nestor Aparicio  22:16

say circumstances dictate what circumstances dictated that you should have punted on Monday night. He didnโ€™t. He thought about it. He went against the book. I mean, itโ€™s John. I mean, this is who he is. Heโ€™s going to go to the Hall of Fame because of it. I mean, circumstances said donโ€™t draft Lamar Jackson with the 32nd pick of the first round, because you have to rebuild your whole team, donโ€™t you know nobody else wanted him? They I mean, this is who they are. They are. Theyโ€™re running on gangsters. Is who they are at this point. I mean, they do things differently at every turn. And when it doesnโ€™t work, we hold our nose and say, you ran the ball three times against the chiefs in a championship game. And when it works, on Monday night at the two minute warning, Derek Henry runs left and right. Heโ€™s a genius, and theyโ€™re up at halftime, all of a sudden? Yeah,

Luke Jones  23:03

but at the same time, if they do punt there, and letโ€™s say the Chargers go down and score a touchdown, I mean, it can be a different game, right? I mean, so sometimes, you know, itโ€™s no bluster, no muster, right? I mean, I again, as I said, I would not have done that from from my own 16 yard line, but find me a coach, it would. Thatโ€™s why theyโ€™re like, youโ€™re saying you you need to pay more attention to high school football there. So I okay phone. You just said thereโ€™s not a coach but, but there are, there are some coaches out there who do not punt ever, like ever, unless itโ€™s like fourth and

Nestor Aparicio  23:35

fourth and one from the history in the animals League, in any sport, in anywhere, itโ€™s 000001, you know, like itโ€™s just, itโ€™s not something you do

Luke Jones  23:49

and but havenโ€™t we also seen that swing, though, that we see teams go for it more on fourth down in general now, compared to because John, John, because of John. I

Nestor Aparicio  23:59

mean, thereโ€™s been other ones. I mean, coaches, John was the first one to read the analytics and say, Well, Iโ€™m going to use that as gospel. Weโ€™re just going to go for it. I mean, this is not common. I mean, I sit here and watch football all weekend. Nobody has the level of confidence in their running game or their quarterback, Philadelphia,

Luke Jones  24:17

with Philadelphia with the tush push. And thatโ€™s, thatโ€™s part of where this thatโ€™s where this is coming from. And let me, let me be clear, the other 2/4 down that they went for, I had no problem with those. Those were pretty I mean, the one, okay, youโ€™re still in your own territory, but you see teams do that. But yeah, when youโ€™re talking about inside your own 20 yard line. When youโ€™re talking about if you get stuff there, you fumble the ball or anything like that. Itโ€™s at least three points like that. Yeah, thereโ€™s

Nestor Aparicio  24:50

the upside. Was John. The upside, itโ€™s thereโ€™s two minutes of football left here. Do you think youโ€™re gonna go down and score? If youโ€™re feeling good about that, are you feeling good about. Just burning the clock and getting one more 1010, yards, or a three and out, and then punting with 42 seconds left to go. You know, I donโ€™t the mindset for him, for John, and Iโ€™m not allowed to ask John questions anymore, because I smell funny. But if I were to ask John about this, John would probably say, Well, if we get a yard there, we feel like we get we weโ€™re in our Two Minute. We had our time outs, and we could get three points. Now they got seven. But, you know, the idea would be, yeah, you know, if we get one yard, weโ€™re going to keep the ball for the rest of the half. Yeah, and weโ€™re going to get three points. Weโ€™re going to find a way to get the ball 40 more yards and give Justin Tucker a chance to kick a field goal. That would have been if Lisa Salters would have gone on in real time and read his mind at that moment, he would have thought, and I think he even said to Lisa Salters on the way in, I just thought we could get a yard. I just thought we could get a yard like in the you know what itโ€™s going to cost me on the other side. Then think about that 3.7 points, giving them the ball to 15. I just thought weโ€™re good for a yard here. Okay?

Luke Jones  26:09

I mean, thatโ€™s, thatโ€™s, itโ€™s like I said, Now from the from your own 16 yard line. Okay, again, I keep saying I would not. I would have punted the football there. But donโ€™t keep telling me about the running game, the running game, the running game if you donโ€™t have the confidence to get two inches right, which is what it was. But I think it was very obvious their mindset there that was that wasnโ€™t even about getting three points, that was about keeping the ball. It was about keeping the ball for the rest of that because the next two plays, they ran a minute off the clock, right? I mean, they did not go into a full blown yards away from

Nestor Aparicio  26:45

the end zone. They right there. To your point, they

Luke Jones  26:48

werenโ€™t thinking score there, right there, exactly. They were thinking, keep Herbert off the field, keep it and then they got the next first down. And then at that point, okay, then itโ€™s and certainly it helps when you throw a 40 yard touchdown to Rashad Bateman, right? Itโ€™s not as though they ran a 11 play two minute drive and, you know, weโ€™re working the sideline and getting eight, 910, yards of pop and just, you know, you know, moving it down the field that way. You know, they got a big, you know, two chunk plays, the plate of flowers, and then obviously, the touchdown to Bateman. So again, itโ€™s, yeah, itโ€™s risky. If you donโ€™t get it, thereโ€™s major downside, but there was major upside to that as well. But I still think that was much more indicative of his confidence level in his defense at that point in the game, where he did not want to give the Chargers an opportunity to get points there, and he wanted to play keep away and wanted to have an opportunity to, you know, then, then it was a matter of having a lead, and they still ended up giving up three points, you know, at the end of the half. So, you know, in some ways it was kind of justified at that point, as far as concerned about the defense. But I think again, if he knew that the Chargers werenโ€™t going to score another touchdown until the very end of the game at that moment, maybe they do punt the football and maybe they maybe he says, Oh, I am confident my defense, but he he didnโ€™t have a crystal ball to know that. So look, will it burn them at some point in time if they try a similar one to that? It could, or it could be the difference of beating Kansas City on the road. Who knows? So, you know, I say this all the time about opponents when they play the ravens, but it applies to the Ravens as well. Youโ€™ve got to be willing to take some risks. You have to, you have to take some risks against the Baltimore Ravens to beat them. And on the flip side, if youโ€™re the ravens, there are times you have to take some risks. And John Harbaugh felt that that was a time where, yeah, it was a risk because of the place on the on the field, obviously. But he also said, You know what? What good is my running game and my offensive line and all this talk about how physical we are and and having this expansive offense that can beat you in so many different ways, if, if we donโ€™t have the conviction to think that we can pick up five inches or whatever it was, you know, it was a very, you know, fourth and a very short one. So weโ€™ll see if they do it again at some point in that same circumstance. But it certainly was, uh, you know, it was the play thatโ€™s really swung that game, because, you know, they scored a touchdown and then, you know, the Chargers were working from behind the rest of

Nestor Aparicio  29:29

the way. Luke Jones is Baltimore. Luke, He can be found all week long. Donโ€™t bother him. On Thursday, heโ€™s gonna be dirky and gravy and hanging out with his family, doing all that good stuff this week. You can find me anywhere. The internet is sold as well. Weโ€™re out on blue sky social, trying to figure that out. I get locked off of Twitter at one point in the middle of the game because of the maniac thatโ€™s going to be helping run the country, which really gives me great, great hope for the future of all of this. Elon Musk, but nonetheless, our social media is alive and well. Our website is alive and well, tons of music stuff out done, some great interviews. Doing the Maryland crab cake tour five times before Christmas. Weโ€™ll be at Cocos and gertrudes next week. We will be at Costas The following week, as well as amicis and our friends at fadelies at Alexa to market. Have no fear, weโ€™re getting back at the State Fair. Weโ€™ll be back up at Cooperโ€™s north as part of our cup of Super Bowl in February. All brought to you by our friends at the Maryland lottery have Raven scratch offs to give away, beginning next Tuesday at Cocos at 1pm uh, all of it also brought to you by our friends at Liberty. Pure solution. One 800 clean water, making it happen. And of course, Jiffy Lube, multi care powers Luke up back and forth during a short week. It will power all of those cheese steak eaters and tasty cake eaters down here on Sunday taking over the city and getting green on early Sunday, tickets are 500 bucks. Go enjoy the game. Iโ€™m Nestor. Heโ€™s Luke. We got plenty of football ahead. Happy Thanksgiving. Weโ€™re Baltimore. Positive.com. You.

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