Ever since he saw them at the Baltimore Civic Center in February 1980, former music critic Nestor Aparicio has been chasing Styx around the country. JY has been a recurring character on his radio show for three decades. This one was a โmirror, mirror on the wallโ segment. And the pic is from 1996 backstage at Merriweather Post Pavilion.
Nestor Aparicio reminisces about his long-standing fandom of Styx, recalling his first concert in 1980 and the bandโs evolution over 33 years. He discusses the bandโs sold-out Pier Six show and their longevity, noting their resilience through various musical eras and the departure of Dennis DeYoung. James Young (JY) reflects on the bandโs success, their reunion in 1995, and the challenges of maintaining a five-member partnership. They also touch on the bandโs live performances, the impact of โRenegadeโ at Steelers games, and the bandโs relationship with REO Speedwagon. JY expresses admiration for the Ravensโ Super Bowl win and discusses the bandโs future plans.
SUMMARY KEYWORDS
Styx concert, Pier Six, sold out, band history, reunion tour, live act, Dennis DeYoung, musical conflicts, fan expectations, nostalgia tour, Super Bowl performance, Ravens fans, Bears preview, White Sox, Blackhawks
SPEAKERS
James JY Young, Nestor Aparicio
Nestor Aparicio 00:00
Mean, and I hope I have this potted up loud enough, and there it is. So weโll have some fun with this. It is 9am youโre listening to w, N, S T, Towson, Baltimore, and Iโve had a Iโve had a long run with this band. Back on February 5, 1980 I attended my first real rock and roll concert I was 11. I told my mom I wanted to see the sticks band, but I always thought it should be spelled s, t, I, C, K, s, because thatโs the way sticks was spelled when I was 11, and then I had to discover the river and the mysticism and the crystal ball and the pieces of eight. But it was cornerstone that was the cornerstone in 1980 and 33, years later, Styx is playing at Pier six tonight. Iโd love to tell you tickets are readily available, but theyโre not. Itโs kind of like really sold out. And Iโm sure thereโll be lots of boats in the harbor or boats on the river in this case. And I think Iโve done enough sticks ranting here to at least make JY laugh. I was introduced to JY through chips. Enough of enoughโs enough. And Iโll give JY my my best chips enough impersonation as I bring him on too. Thatโs him singing. Heโs not Miss America. He might be Mr. America. Hey, JY, howโs it going there, brother, whatโs going on?
James JY Young 01:24
Hello, Brother,
Nestor Aparicio 01:25
whatโs going on? How are you, man,
James JY Young 01:27
Iโm great. Iโm absolutely great,
Nestor Aparicio 01:29
you know what? And Iโm going to be really, really honest. I wasnโt going to call your band manager. I wasnโt going to call Terry, who does your PR. I was just going to let this thing go. I live about three blocks in the pier. I wasnโt going to hit you up for tickets. I wasnโt gonna bang you to get on the show. And then I realized I was filling in this morning, and you were in town today, and Terry hit me, and Iโm like, because I like leaving you guys alone. I literally, I love you guys. You were the my first love, my first band, and Iโve taken so many pictures. Iโve seen you in 50 states. I bugged you for tickets. You donโt need to put up with me anymore, you know, and and here you are and getting out of bed and doing this Good morning. How are you?
James JY Young 02:07
Iโm great. I absolutely great on
Nestor Aparicio 02:09
the road again. Wait, wait, you guys get a Toriel 90. I mean, did you really think back in 1980 when youโre playing the Baltimore Civic Center, that you would still be doing this 30 it wasnโt there. There was a thought that this had to end when you were 40, when you were 25 right? Well, I
James JY Young 02:25
mean, who was saying in my generation, hope I die before I get old? And I think that, you know, weโve seen all the, you know, the the apart from Elvis, you know, most of those bands and the Beatles day Park Five, kind of, kind of, you know, they all fell by the wayside when the psychedelic era came in. And then that all fell by the wayside. And and the classic rock fell by the wayside, really. In 1991 grunge came in. And 1994 1994 I thought this was, you know, that we had, that was all over for us. And then I see, you know, in 1995 we get the band back together and find a manager who says, you know, just make this, make this an event, and put Tickets on sale, and they will come. And indeed, they did come in 15, 20,000 people a night in 1996 for our reunion tour, we did a DVD of it, and weโve been going out on the road every year since then, and itโs virtually impossible to get new music played, but the demand for us is a live act. It just continues to grow so itโs, itโs crazy good, not the same as it used to be, but nothing is. And unlike some of my NFL playing buddies, who you know that, you know you get to be. I mean, how Ray Lewis with 36 was he 37 when he finally called it quits? I mean, thatโs, thatโs, thatโs a long run for a football player, but for me, in my early 60s, itโs pretty crazy good.
Nestor Aparicio 03:45
You know, I put a bunch of crazy pictures up on Facebook and Twitter over the last 15 hours, since I realized you were coming on the show. And I actually had to get out of bed this morning and do morning radio for Drew whoโs golfing today. Good luck drew with your tournament. And you know, the minute I put stuff up, and I know you get this, and you may want to, you know, I ask questions to athletes who blow off questions. The first thing is, you know, whereโs Dennis, which Dennis from the band, and I saw behind the music, and itโs been 20 years now, and I guess youโll just get that forever. And I donโt know what the stock answer is, but I always think to myself, I started this radio station 15 years ago, and Iโve had the part ways with guys, and I still get emails about that, and I still get that on my Facebook page, and people donโt understand. I think itโs amazing, like, when I go see rush that those three guys still love each other and get along the way they do. Because I donโt have the same friends I had in high school. I donโt have the same friends I have when I was in my 20s, you know, and keeping businesses together and bands together and people together. I canโt think of anything harder than being in that, that marriage, and then I go watch the Eagles DVD and see everything that theyโve been through over 40 years and still making great music. It really is. I mean, itโs, itโs a tough spotlight to be in, and itโs a tough business. I would think, as you said, you thought you had five times it wasnโt going to happen. Been in your ear. You know, how do you deflect that? Or how do you even answer that? And I think Lawrence Gowan does such a great job in the band that I donโt want to say I forgot about Dennis, but I saw Dennis last year, and I see you this year, and itโs all good, and as long as everybodyโs happy and playing the music and having a good time tonight, isnโt that what itโs really about? You know, I
James JY Young 05:17
look McCartney goes on, does his own thing, and Lennon and Harrison are not around, and Ringo is out with his own band at age 72 heโs in the best shape of his life. Heโs heโs having a great old time out there. And he puts together great, you know, sort of all star bands that surround him. And theyโre both happy. Theyโre both not dealing with the drama of of the band interactions, and you talked about marriage, how many two way marriages end in divorce? 50% so to keep a five way marriage together. I mean, the odds are far more difficult. And when I was a Mormon, not just kidding, the the you know, itโs Dennis. Dennis, the young and incredibly talented guy. We did some great work together. He and I were always we shared a love of sports and we shared a love of wanting to be successful, but our musical tastes were there was a middle ground where they sort of coincided to a point. But I think Dennis really sort of reworked himself to sort of resonate more with me, because I was more cutting edge guy when, when I joined up with these guys and and then he became more and more his mainstream self, and then pretty soon his, you know, musical theater side came out. And, you know, we just heโs heโs doing what he wants to do, and he really doesnโt want to do what weโre doing to the extent weโre doing it. So weโre doing 110, shows a year, and heโs out there on his own doing maybe 3040, shows a year. And I mean, if we were together, he might only be able to survive 70. So weโre doing twice as many shows with two sticks entities out there on the road, and we all still share in the record royalties, and we continue to sell the catalog stuff. And so, I mean, heโs happy, I presume, Iโm sure heโd like to be back with us for a few bit, but we just got such a great thing going here, and we have, thereโs a brand new chemistry, and itโs been almost 15 years, and I love my band mates, and Dennis hated being on the road, and we love being on the road. So itโs a matter of, this is where weโre at now, and I truly wish him well, but I donโt see any reunion in the future. I donโt see McCartney and Ringo getting night together. I donโt see Dennis and sticks getting met together. You
Nestor Aparicio 07:36
know whatโs funny is I went out to see, you know, Mick and Keith, and I paid my former $400 and went out to see the stones, you know, a couple three months ago. And you know, theyโre even bringing guys back from 30 years ago to play songs, yeah. So, you know, I think, from a fans perspective, you want people to get along. And then thereโs the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, where, you know, David Lee Roth got back together with, you know, but I just really do find it amazing, donโt you? Donโt you have some appreciation for that relationship that you still have with the guys in the band, that itโs amazing. Because when I go see rush to think that those three guys have never broken it up, but you two now, you know, 35 years still the same guys, that is so unique, itโs so hard to do. And Aerosmith, right? Well, they put different guys in the band, Crespo and du fey were in the band for five years, and they had their their moments of, you know, the Toxic Twins and all that stuff, but itโs so hard. And I think that thereโs an appreciation for relationships that the fans donโt really understand, you know, and I guess they they canโt, because everybody wants it the way it used
James JY Young 08:37
to be. Itโs not their job or their duty to try and understand the dynamics of what it is to be in an artistic partnership. But because there was conflict, I think we wrote some great music collectively back and for you know, and recorded and produced some great records back in the 70s and early 80s. And it was because of the inner conflicts, or the conflicts between us in a way that I think the music was forced even to a higher level, and it might be otherwise, and but those, those were agonizing years in terms of trying to coexist.
Nestor Aparicio 09:11
You know, you talk about those years in the 70s and stuff. And I guess Springsteen would be another guy I could bring in, because when I went to see Springsteen three, four years ago, he went into that wave that you guys kind of started, in some ways, doing the whole album. You know, he was doing, Born to Run one night and, you know, and wild and innocent one night, you know, born to USA one night. You guys went and did the Grand Illusion of piece eight. I saw you at the theater down at the Hippodrome a couple years ago. Loved it. Iโve seen the DVD of it and all that stuff. But that whole nostalgia for doing those songs, watching you do those songs that I havenโt literally listened to since spinning literally the phonograph, you know, watch it drop the needle and pray, as Bruce Springsteen would sing it, to learn those songs again, must have been kind of fun for you.
James JY Young 09:58
It was, it was fun. On some levels, it was a heck of a lot of work on another level, but in in hindsight, I mean, it was, it was a great exercise for us to put ourselves through, and it actually made me a better guitar player, and it made this a better band. And it, you know, we actually, you know, dusted off some what turned out to be gems that music written 30 years ago, but seems perfectly timely today, and maybe even more so than it was then. So itโs been, it was a great thing to kind of freshen the live act up and just put a different spin on. And thereโs a great DVD, which finally has been aired on Palladian VH, one classic here, and, you know, starting three, four months ago. So I
Nestor Aparicio 10:40
would love to talk to you about these catalogs and put it together, because Iโve been to, you know, Fauci over 1000 concerts. I mean, you remember me from back in the music critic days and in the 80s and all that stuff. And I mean, God, I think Iโve seen you guys 40 or 50 times alone, let alone all the other bands that I love that Iโve seen so many times. But you know, as a fan, you pay the money, you come to the show, you want to hear the hits as an artist. And I think artists, and Iโve learned this when you were in your 40s and maybe early 50s, there was some, not just you, but bands in general, always wanted to get the new music out, because they were still writing music that they felt was relevant. The fans are like, you know, play Come sail away, you know, give me crystal ball. Give me the old stuff. And then I think now maybe over the last 10 years, when I go to see sting, itโs a greatest hit show. When I go to see the stones, itโs a greatest hit show because youโre paying top dollar, youโre out there, everybodyโs waited weeks, months, years, driven, taking the night off, got the sitters, or the grand sitters, in some cases, some cases, theyโre bringing the kids. Now, how compelled Do you feel to have to play a greatest hit show at this point in the how many people tonight will be seeing you for the first time? Probably not that many. But I love hearing the obscure stuff. But some fans just, you know, donโt bore us. Get to the course, right? Well, thereโs,
James JY Young 11:54
thereโs, thereโs, you know, we start the show with with some very well known music. And then we, then we dig much deeper in the middle of the show. And then we ended up, you know, with, you know, five, you know, home run songs. And so we still, we still like to dig deep. And if there was new music, it would find its way in there. And eventually thereโs going to be, but it, I mean, as you say, people want to come out and hear this soundtrack to their glorious, miss, bent youth. And thereโs, thereโs a lot of sticks music we donโt perform, but some people might want to hear like Babe and Mr. Roboto. Particularly, we donโt play the softer side and the quirky side kind of stay away. Weโre, this is a hard rock and, you know, side of the band thatโs going to be on stage with myself and Tommy shot tonight, along with the rest of them. And so people we I try to give them, we try to hit, you know, people want to hear Renegade and Come sail away, too much time on my hand. People
Nestor Aparicio 12:56
here do not want to hear Renegade. Stop, right? Letโs go into sports right now, I
James JY Young 13:01
guess, I guess maybe in certain small pockets, renegade doesnโt want to be heard. But this is a pocket right here. Got another ring last year. I think that people could could leave before we play the last song. Okay,
Nestor Aparicio 13:14
so, so letโs, letโs get to this. Because the three things that Iโve been getting on my Facebook page when I put up these moldy, oldie pictures of you and I back when we were younger men, and is, you know, whereโs Dennis? Love the band, you know, pick a song. I love a song, whatever. And itโs those bastards played red that theyโre Steeler fans there. And Iโm like, no, theyโre actually Bears fans. And I donโt even know how the hell that happened, but Iโll tell you this, JY, and this is Godโs on. Iโm in that ravens locker room all the time and after, and weโve beaten Pittsburgh up there a couple of times. The these 22 year old African American football players that listen to hip hop and Jay Z and you know when T PAIN whenever theyโre listening to they donโt know who you are. They donโt know that song, but they know it now. And honestly, to the Ravens players that have been around. Terrell Suggs loves that song now, because it fires him up. You know, I mean, like, Iโve had several ravens guys say to me, we love hearing that up. He said, as much as the towels come out and they think it fires them up. If youโve been a raven for 5678, years and youโve walked off the field having lost playoff games up there. The Ravens players love that song. Now, the fans here hate it, but the Ravens players have, have, have, you know, theyโve, theyโve met their oppressor. But how did that thing happen up there? Because I donโt think you guys had anything to do with it. No,
James JY Young 14:38
honestly, I our manager, Charlie, who youโve met, called me up one day and and said, thereโs a playoff game, and I donโt know it was, this was back 10 years ago, and said, you know, the mother bleep and Steelers they just played, played renegade on the television broadcast. We heard it there, in hindsight. Children, and we were shocked, because no one, you know, No one warned us in advance that they were doing this. But, I mean, I like to think there was a buddy of mine who was a program director in Buffalo at rock station, and he moved down to Pittsburgh, and he was kind of in his at his peak. John McGann was his name and and he was at his peak. And so a
Nestor Aparicio 15:19
Bills fan is at the heart of this Steeler thing. Donโt tell me that. Well, I
James JY Young 15:23
donโt know if, well, I mean, he was a sticks fan. And I the fact that he was born in Victor, New York, I suppose, made him
Nestor Aparicio 15:30
a bill fan. And it canโt be that bad if he was a six fan. Heโs all right, you know? I
James JY Young 15:34
mean, he played, he played six music to death in 1978 we sold out two shows there back then, I think because we had a friend in the program director spot him, he just talked us up. And and Renegade, who, when I first started out, I could have guitar, guitar solos too long, but then it wound up there was like a battle of the band sting the rock radio station did back then. And Renegade, kind of, kind of one beat defeated everything for almost a month on that station. That just became a huge song there. And then it kind of faded away. And then 30 and then 30 years later, some guy at, you know, Heinz Field, decides to just put it up there. And then they got people fired up. And then the Steelers came back to win a game and and they havenโt used it ever since. And I know Charlie, our managers from Pittsburgh originally, and and heโs friends with the ownership over there, and they said there and they said there was, there was a movement afoot to try and change, change that song about five years ago. And they said, No, change that song. So
Nestor Aparicio 16:29
we have that in Baltimore with, thank God Iโm a country boy for Orio games. It started in 1979 and 34 years later. Thank God Iโm a country boys played every single night in the seventh inning, and when they tried to take it away, because Angeloโs hated it like he hates everything that the Orioles fans wanted. The fans demanded it to come back, and it came back, and itโs, I mean, John Denver has been dead 15 years. Theyโre still playing it, and I think thatโll be played forever. I think you youโre good for life. I think the Steelers will play that song forever. Well,
James JY Young 16:54
itโs part of the fan experience. And you know, what are you gonna do? We had nothing. I mean, we made help make the song popular with with by creating that record and by having a dear friend, the program director. Siege is my is my judgment, how it became. So everybody in Pittsburgh knew the song. So when somebody put it up there, everyone recognized and kind of responded to it. But it was, it was definitely somebody that worked, you know, at Heinz Field for the Steelers, and decided to try it one night, and it just worked like gangbusters, and they come back to win. So itโs, itโs been, you know, just kind of took out a life of its own, that moment, to just only grown from
Nestor Aparicio 17:32
there. JY, I mean, you know, weโre friends. Do you have to really just go there and put a jersey on and sing? Itโs, I mean, do you have to go that far, but they have to invite you in, and do you have to, like, be a special guest to the Steelers when youโre there? Hey, we
James JY Young 17:44
played. We the first time the Ravens won the Super Bowl, and Brandon Stokely got behind Jason seahorn and Dilfer threw the pass. Hold on.
Nestor Aparicio 17:53
A minute. Youโre getting excited. Stop, now. Stop now. You know, I just posted a picture up of that, and itโs funny, you would say that because of all these crazy things Iโve been through with you guys and how incredibly kind youโve been to me, and Iโll go into that in a minute, but, and Iโll go into that right now and just say, you know, I camped out for concert tickets for you guys on the Kilroy tour. I begged my parents to get me tickets. I begged my step brother to drive me down to the Capitol center on the Paradise Theater tour when I was 13 to go to the shows and all that stuff. You guys have just been awesome people and great people to know. And itโs really neat when you know you sort of idolize people, when you get to know them and they turn out to be great people as well. So thatโs my compliment for you. But that particular night before the Super Bowl, I came down the elevator, and I walked into the elevator at the Tampa Hyatt, and Tommy Shawโs in the elevator. And I looked at him, and Iโm like, What are you doing? Heโs like, What are you doing? And I you know, and like, and Iโm like, my teamโs gonna win the Super Bowl tomorrow. Heโs like, Yeah, I know weโre playing. And we took a picture, and I just put it up on Facebook a little while ago. And itโs so random that I would just bump into Tommy Shaw the night before the Ravens win the Super Bowl. And you guys were part of that, that that was a thrill for you. I remembered you guys thinking, when you get invited to do a Super Bowl now, you know, theyโre bringing in, you know, Beyonce and whoever else. But, I mean, I love me some Tom Petty and some who, and some Bruce and at the you know, I guess Bon Jovi will do it at some point. But for you to get invited to Super Bowl that thatโs about as big as it gets, right?
James JY Young 19:19
No, it was phenomenal for me, of the huge NFL fan that I am, to actually be down there, and, you know, be on the field at the Super Bowl, and be in the hotel just running into, you know, NFL Hall of Famer after NFL Hall of Famer as youโre walking through the halls in the lobby of the hotel, and and, and to go to Radio row where, I mean, you, you been San Diego Two years later, you sat me down with Don King. I mean, thatโs, I havenโt
Nestor Aparicio 19:43
put that picture up yet. Iโm way. Iโm gonna put that one up. Mr. America and Miss America together. Is that great? Perfect, man. Well, weโve, itโs been great. You know, I havenโt seen you in eight years because I havenโt bugged you guys because Iโve just, Iโm trying to not bug you guys because I. Just, I feel like, you know, I donโt want to be that guy, but the last time I saw you, I was randomly in Chicago for a Ravens game. I took the press box elevator up to steal food. I had all my gear on because I was going to go sit in the rain, and the five of you were sitting in the press box in Chicago. And Iโm like, the hell are you doing here? Youโre like, weโre singing the national anthem. And Iโm like, I mean, itโs random how this sticks. Thing has worked for me through a lifetime, but youโre a Bears fan, right? You know, give me a little bears preview.
James JY Young 20:29
I have no idea if we have an offensive line or not, and if we donโt have an offensive line and we donโt have a team,
Nestor Aparicio 20:38
true, thatโs it. Thatโs all youโre going to say. Jay Cutler, are you pro Cutler or Anthony Cutler?
James JY Young 20:43
I think he overrated. I think heโs a twerp on television. I think heโs, you know, the dumb little injuries he subjected himself to after, I mean, the one you know, where he hurt himself trying to tackle a guy after an interception which turned into a pick six. It was like, You idiot,
Nestor Aparicio 21:05
idiot, Spoken like a true fan, Jay. Why? You
James JY Young 21:09
know, I mean, and he just, he does not seem, Iโve never met the guy, and it may just be that heโs, you know, on camera, he gets a little weird. Some people donโt know what to say on camera. Itโs
Nestor Aparicio 21:21
also diabetic, and my wifeโs diabetic, so I have so much respect for a guy, you know, shooting up on the sidelines and needles testing and all that stuff. And so, I mean, I That being said, I
James JY Young 21:30
so maybe heโs got a blood sugar problem, and I didnโt know that. Okay,
Nestor Aparicio 21:34
yeah, well, I mean, I think that thatโs been used for his emotional outbursts, you know. And being married to a diabetic, I know a little bit about that. Anybody has a diabetic in their life, but thatโs been something that has been talked about on that way. But I do agree with you. I watch him on TV and think, you know, thatโs not what leaders do. Thatโs not what I feel the same way about Phillip rivers, and itโs funny here. For years, JY Flacco just took nothing but flack about not being that guy, not being the Screamer, not being the pointer, not being the emotional slam the helmet. You know, after throwing a pick, he would go to the sidelines and be not emotional about it, and all he did was take grief about not being that guy. So I think, from a fanโs perspective, no matter what they do, if they perform, we love them, and if they donโt, weโre looking for whatever reaction, and weโre going to criticize the reaction.
James JY Young 22:20
I mean, he should be called Mr. Playoffs, because if anyone would have thought the Ravens would have done in the playoffs what they did after the Giants came in here and and handed the Ravens their hat at home somewhere in November last year,
Nestor Aparicio 22:32
it was Broncos. But go, yeah, it was Broncos, yeah. Well, Giants did too
James JY Young 22:38
at some point late in the season. And I go, I just thought, you know, I didnโt think the Ravens had a prayer and, and he just didnโt throw a pick. Steady as she goes, boom, boom, boom, defense with Ray back, you know, all of a sudden, you know, elevated. Just their emotional game in which, you know, they just, they their mojo, working through the whole thing. And, you know, Jeremy running that the kickoff back that was the dagger that killed him. And as much as it seemed like that power outage was going to hurt him in the Super, I mean, they just, they, you know, they, they didnโt, you know. I mean, I go back back to 2000 and and one when they when they shut out the Cowboys at home. You know that reminded me the 85 bears who shut out the Cowboys in Dallas, 44 and nothing with a backup quarterback. I said, you can shut out the Cowboys. You can win the Super Bowl. And as I was on them right after that, I said, the ravens are going to win the Super Bowl.
Nestor Aparicio 23:36
JY, whatever you do tonight when you take the stage, say something nice about the Ravens before you play Renegade, just find a minute to just, you know what I mean, like make sure everybodyโs at peace tonight, and we can have a wonderful ending to what Iโm sure is going to be a great night. Ario speed wagging out on the road with you. Your boy, Kevin Cronin, who always loved my cousin, you know, every time he sees me, talks 59 Go Go socks with me all the time. How do guys in REO doing all right? Everything good. There
James JY Young 24:04
are great arias. Weโve done a number of shows with them. Set an attendance record of the Iowa State Fair just couple weeks ago. So weโre doing good
Nestor Aparicio 24:11
you guys do things together where you do a song or two and or just two separate sets. These days, thereโs one
James JY Young 24:17
tour where we did get together and get out and do that but, but typically they do their so we do ours and we go our separate ways. Who
Nestor Aparicio 24:24
comes first? Who comes second? Tonight? Tonight,
James JY Young 24:27
itโs reo. Weโll play first and we close the show.
Nestor Aparicio 24:30
Perfect, man. I love you. I miss you. Itโll be great to see you and catch up with you. Youโre in the home of the world champions here today. James Young, make sure you tell Tommy and Lawrence all the other guys. Weโll see him tonight. Thanks for getting out of bed early this morning and spend a couple minutes with Hey, itโs been a few years since I want, I want you to tip your cap for the White Sox, even though they stink right now awfully. I know what a White Sox fan you were, that that must have been fun. And obviously in Chicago, with the way the hockey teams played and all that stuff, thereโs
James JY Young 24:58
been hawks, the Hawks over. Really lit it up the last few years, and thatโs been a great thing. There
Nestor Aparicio 25:03
is hope is in there, after having a crappy owner for a couple of decades, that you can, you know, the kid took over. And, I mean, thatโs a hell of a story for Chicago, for Blackhawks fans, what happened there? Because the exact same story would happen our baseball team being taken over by creep who owns the team, who destroys everything, and they are also better. Now, itโs all good, but the Blackhawks, to me, were always that inspirational thing that, you know, even the teams at the bottom because of who owns the team, that thing got fixed there. I mean, he that guy was the most hated guy in Chicago, for sure, right words,
James JY Young 25:32
yeah, it, it. You know, the ownership does play a huge role, and the mindset of ownership plays a huge role. It canโt fix everything, but it can. It can certainly create a fertile soil for a team to grow big in, you know, and
Nestor Aparicio 25:50
must have been great for you be a White Sox fan and actually get a chance to celebrate, right? I mean long suffering. So hey, man, have a great show tonight. Canโt wait to see you guys. Hey, add Lorelei into the descent for me tonight, if you can. All right,
James JY Young 26:07
thanks, Jay. We may have another surprise for you instead. Really, okay,
Nestor Aparicio 26:10
I like surprises. Just, just say World Champions a lot tonight, and weโll forget about the whole renegade thing, I promise. Thanks. JY, take care. Appreciate it. There he goes. JY from Styx, long time friend and a really cool.