Jon Bon Jovi tells Nestor what it’s like to be famous and from New Jersey

Back in his #AlmostFamous days as music critic at The Evening Sun in Baltimore, Nestor Aparicio interviewed all of the up-and-coming rock stars. Jon Bon Jovi was in the midst of the “New Jersey” tour in the Summer of 1989.

In July 1989, Jon Bon Jovi discussed his band’s success and the New Jersey tour with Nestor Aparicio. Bon Jovi highlighted the band’s dedication to their craft, their strategic approach to touring, and their engagement with fans. He mentioned the band’s use of a full-time video crew and the changes in their setlist, including acoustic performances of hits like “Living on a Prayer.” Bon Jovi also touched on the band’s business savvy, their interactions with radio stations, and their involvement in charity and sports. He shared insights into their creative process, the band’s camaraderie, and their future plans, including a potential stadium tour and a trip to the Soviet Union.

SUMMARY KEYWORDS

Bon Jovi, New Jersey tour, Skid Row, MTV darlings, Slippery when wet, fan interaction, setlist changes, stadium shows, song selection, band dynamics, personal life, music influences, road life, charity work, future plans

SPEAKERS

Jon Bon Jovi, Nestor Aparicio

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Nestor Aparicio  00:00

Welcome back wnsg Taos in Baltimore and wnst.net it is our wnsg Rock week presentation. This is going to be one of my favorites, of the of all of these interviews we’ve put together, and certainly one of the bigger stars, and was a big star at the time of this conversation. So this conversation is from the summer of 1989 The concert was held on july 11 at the Capitol center. The opening band was Skid Row. You can go back and Google that one up. And Bon Jovi was coming through the second time to the Capitol center after selling out shows in the winter, doing a summer tour on the New Jersey album, which was just an enormous album on the backside of an enormous album, and slippery when wet. And you know at this point, they are the darlings of MTV. They are heartthrobs and Richie samboras cavorting was Cher. Just to give you sort of a time frame of all of this, because we’re going back almost three decades, but July 1989 and Bon Jovi’s pretty big star, and I had chatted with him at one point at the Baltimore Civic Center, then Civic Center, before it was royal farms arena, and this was when they played with Cinderella there. And I, you know, was sort of backstage at a meet and greet at that point, and the band had just broken with you give love a bad name was about living on a prayer was about to happen about three or four years prior to 1989 and where we are. We’re now at the point where they’re about to become one of the biggest bands in the world in 1989 and a real cross market sensation with ballads and hits and on billboards everywhere. And Bon Jovi still made time to do interviews, and we talked about that within the framework of this interview. It’s a very long conversation. It’s not particularly combative as much as I preferred slippery when wet to the album, and I had seen them in the winter, and they were kind of scuffling a little bit. And I think of trying to find out what it takes, and I saw this in the documentary many years later, what it takes to be on the road. It’s, I mean, I think the perception that I had was it was just all girls and boos and drugs these people needed to get from place to place and perform, and the bands that were good at performing, and Bon Jovi was one of those bands got to become an eternal band because they took care of their business. And if you’ve seen their documentary, it’s wonderful. Was made 25 years later, you know, after this interview, but this is still a very early, raw Bon Jovi when you consider his life and what he’s done, politically charitably in sports, in trying to buy an NFL franchise and being a sporty guy and being sort of an iconic New Jersey person on the back end of Springsteen. Really, one of the really cool things I got to do was speak to Jon Bon Jovi at this point in his career. I did not put this in the interview, but we had talked about putting together a show, or, excuse me, a story for the sun. My editor was looking for something off beat and really cool, something that would be a front page kind of story. And Bon Jovi agreed to let me behind the curtain on how a rock and roll show was put together. I had never written a story like that. I had asked him, because he was sort of famously good with people who cared about his music, and I did. And I think it comes across in this interview that I was a big fan, unlike, you know, a sticks or a rusher at the Ted Nugent or an Aerosmith when I was a kid, you know, I heard my first Bon Jovi song when I was 15. And he’s a couple of years older than me, so we’re more contemporaries than that, but still a really, really big star, one of the biggest musicians on the planet at that point, and it really knew a lot about the business. If you listen to this interview, he talks about the double day station, the other radio station in DC, because he knew the program directors. He had shaken hands with everyone in radio because he wanted to get runaway played. And you know, those songs in the early days that broke him. It was about MTV, but it was about every single market. And Bon Jovi understood the business of music, and you can hear that in this interview. And he knew that my stuff went all over the wire as well. At this point, I was just getting picked up by the LA Times syndicate for my freelance work, and you know, my stories would wind up in other places. So he had actually agreed to spend the day with me. He was playing tennis. He offered to play tennis and then come down to the Capitol center, and he got sick, and he actually called me a day and a half before and said he wasn’t feeling well, but he wanted me to come down to the show. He didn’t want to screw my story up. But he couldn’t spend the day. He said, Come down early. So I went down for sound check. It was a very short sound check. I went into the dressing rooms. In his dressing room, I’ll never forget there were he had a wardrobe, you know, on wheels, and in it were hockey jerseys from all of the places he had visited. It was a New Jersey, devils Jersey in there. There was a Pittsburgh Penguins Jersey in there with his name on it, because that’s what they did in that area. You know, they presented during the Encore, you know, Bon Jovi would wear a penguins Jersey out for the penguins fans at the igloo in Pittsburgh at that point. And that was kind of getting over. And you see pictures of that rock stars over the years. I remember, like, Getty Lee wore, you know, an Orioles cartoon bird on his T shirt. You know, underneath of the jersey he was wearing it at the arena. So but anyway, they opened for 38 specials. The first time I’d ever really heard of him at the spectrum. They were then opening for Cinderella, but quickly became a bigger band than that, and they were the biggest band in the world the summer of 1989 This is Jon Bon Jovi on the New Jersey tour. And I think you’ll really enjoy this. I know I did.

Jon Bon Jovi  05:47

Hello, hi, Nestor, yeah,

Nestor Aparicio  05:48

hey. How you doing? All right, lot interview. Sam, yeah, missing a good tennis match is what you’re missing. Yeah,

Jon Bon Jovi  05:57

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I’m gonna get out there and play myself today. Your wanted man, busy guy,

06:01

where are you now?

Jon Bon Jovi  06:02

New Hampshire.

06:03

What part of New Hampshire? Manchester, really?

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Jon Bon Jovi  06:07

I never even been here.

06:10

How big a place you playing

Jon Bon Jovi  06:11

tonight? Unbelievably,

Nestor Aparicio  06:14

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you’re off today, and you can’t even enjoy it. I

Jon Bon Jovi  06:17

am enjoying it.

06:18

Gotta talk to schmucks like me. No man, I

Jon Bon Jovi  06:21

don’t mind at all.

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Nestor Aparicio  06:25

You’re still playing pretty full hauls. I I know here that they’re having some not problem selling tickets, but they put two shows on here. Actually, we

Jon Bon Jovi  06:33

didn’t want to do two shows, and the promoter was trying to stuff two shows down my throat, because it’s a lot of money for him. We had no intention of ever doing two shows that we’d been there once already. That was enough, and we’re playing somewhere right after Richmond

Nestor Aparicio  06:48

or Richmond, Richmond, yeah, on Wednesday, yeah. So

Jon Bon Jovi  06:52

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we hadn’t played Richmond yet on this tour, and we’d already been to the cap center by bag, if I stuck my arm in too deep, it’ll eat it, man, I got more in my bag. Yeah. So we haven’t been to Richmond before, and that’s where we’re going.

Nestor Aparicio  07:13

So where do you head after New Hampshire? I mean, how much traveling are you doing? How much flying are you doing?

Jon Bon Jovi  07:18

We fly almost every day. We’re here. We got in last night about 233 o’clock, woke up today, doing my phoners, and we have the day off tomorrow. We play here, then the next day. I have no idea

07:37

it’s July.

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Jon Bon Jovi  07:40

Throw my June itinerary away, which is sitting in my book. You made it, huh? Deal, where I am, what I’m doing. I just work here.

07:53

How much sleep do you get?

Jon Bon Jovi  07:56

I get six hours a day at least.

Nestor Aparicio  08:00

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I guess that’s enough. How much, how many changes have you made the set since you guys reviewed before?

Jon Bon Jovi  08:05

Quite a few would have changed the material drastically. The cap Center is one of those few arenas in America that has their own in house video. But we’ve taken a full time video crew out. We’ve also changed the opening act. We’ve Skid Row before. I mean, it’s like a whole different animal now, if you saw it now, you know, I mean, it’s, I know I’m going to market the second time. Believe me, I do. I do much different than we do last time, but it’s cool. Well,

Nestor Aparicio  08:39

I remember the last show. I mean, you just it didn’t seem like you really have to. Emphasized slippery a whole lot. I mean, you did more of the stuff off in New Jersey, which is, I guess, is expected when you’re, you know you’re out on the road to sell albums more than anything else, and to get your face around. But I mean, you left, like, raise your hands off. You left, never say goodbye, off. And if you put those songs back in depending.

Jon Bon Jovi  08:58

I mean, take a song like, never say goodbye. Guy really asked me to do it yesterday. You know, you know, Do this, do this. I do do requests quite often. Say, raise your hands. A lot of shows and said, Okay, what do you want to hear? You know, something like, raise your hands. I used to open with it every night, right? So I’m pretty bored with it. Last night, I felt like doing living in sin. Well, I left that I’ll be there for you, which was the number one, you know, single in America to do living in sin, because there’s just so many of the slow songs that you can play. But I did never say goodbye acoustically, just with an acoustic by myself. And it was different. You know, we’re doing prayer acoustically, just me and Richie, and again, that was my biggest number one single ever. You know, it was number one for four weeks. But we we do it with two acoustics. Just to change up a bit, we’re doing wild as the wind. We’re doing love for sale on. On.

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Nestor Aparicio  10:02

I remember in your encore, you did a whole bunch of oldies. He’s still doing that

Jon Bon Jovi  10:05

or and they change daily. You know, it’s whatever I’ve heard on the way to the show that day. Yeah,

Nestor Aparicio  10:11

I mean, you just call it out on stage, or you make this up during the sound check, sound check. Usually,

Jon Bon Jovi  10:20

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I I listen to the radio in the day sometime where I I’m playing CDs in my room, or, you know, however, I heard music that day, I’ll hear a song and say, Oh, what a great tune. Let’s do that, and we’ll work it out at sound check. One thing I got is a band of players. My guys can, they can play boy, you know. So I just call out the key, and we’re in.

Nestor Aparicio  10:42

How much are you using that ramp that we’ve seen in the video? I mean, I saw it live, but, yeah, we use it twice during the night. You still open it up one, let it rock.

Jon Bon Jovi  10:51

Lay your hands on me still. Yeah.

Nestor Aparicio  10:53

Well, let’s let it rock. Is when you first use the ramp again. Or have you been using that? I think the time I saw you, that’s right. We were

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Jon Bon Jovi  11:00

well, because it depends, again, it depends. I send lay your hands down on me on that ramp I like doing right at Rock out there, because there’s a time delay, and it’s the kind of song that really fits in where you could be half a beat behind. So that works for me out there. It’s also a big participation song, and so that works as well. So

Nestor Aparicio  11:28

did you feel like the album is cooled off a little bit now you’ve been out for nine months. What were your expectations for this tour coming off of

Jon Bon Jovi  11:34

something so big phenomena? Of course, I’m not satisfied. Doesn’t mean not that it’s not good. I mean, five and a half million in America is nothing to bitch about. I’m not satisfied.

Nestor Aparicio  11:51

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Were you expecting to be doing stadiums by the

Jon Bon Jovi  11:53

summer? I’ve already I’m doing stadiums in a lot of places. I sold out giant stadium out of the house record at giant stadium two weeks ago. Not Bruce, not amnesty, not Madonna. Michael Jackson, who no one. I put 72,000 people in there, the most there’s ever been for a show. I saw

Nestor Aparicio  12:10

there was a full page ad in Rolling Stone. Yeah,

Jon Bon Jovi  12:13

we sold out way before that ad was even I don’t know why the promoter bought it, but I guess just to tell America that we did it three hours. We played silver Stadium in Rochester just the other day. We played the rubber ball in Akron last weekend. So, yeah, we’re doing stadiums where stadiums are called for,

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Nestor Aparicio  12:37

but places like Washington, you’ve already been to, you’re going to come back and do the arenas. Okay? What was the process for picking songs on New Jersey? And I heard some some strange things that you got a bunch of kids together and you played a bunch of songs and said, What do you like? What happened

Jon Bon Jovi  12:51

is, we recorded a lot of songs demos. We gave them out to whoever felt like listening to them, just to get another opinion. And then we had a party at the studio and invited a bunch of strangers in, but people that were, you know, music fans, unnecessarily, Bon Jovi fans, music fans, had a party and played the song. And then, you know, in the course of the night, hey, you like that, you hate that. You know, it wasn’t like a test at school, which has been, you know, it’s been misinterpreted. You know, it was just a party. There’s a lot of junk food and a lot of people around, and you could see if someone was tapping their foot to it or not. And I said, you like this tune or not, and some of the songs that I wanted on the album didn’t make it, but that’s okay, you know? I mean, why be selfish about it? Are they?

Nestor Aparicio  13:35

Have you played any this live, or have you practiced them? Or Yeah, I

Jon Bon Jovi  13:39

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did a thing on a national radio syndicate once of a song called diamond ring, which I really wanted to put on the record, which may be on the next one, something called, let’s make it baby, which I think, you know, is going to turn a lot of people’s heads. It just wasn’t the time. So next, maybe next time, which I’ve never done before. I’ve never held music for a next album, but I think I may do that next time. How

Nestor Aparicio  14:02

do you think that the stuff that made it on the New Jersey is going to stack up against slippery or Fahrenheit, or any of the other older stuff? I mean, 10 years now, you’re going to look back and say, Well, New Jersey was a down period for us, you know, after slippery,

Jon Bon Jovi  14:16

I don’t think it is, you know. I mean,

Nestor Aparicio  14:19

well, I know. I mean, just from my own personal standpoint. I mean slippery when I went to parties the year that was out, that was it. I mean, that That album was playing, that album was playing on the beach, that album was playing in the malls, in the elevators, everywhere. And I still play it. I mean, I still play it a whole lot, and I haven’t gotten sick of it yet, whereas, I mean, I haven’t listened to Jersey enough to get sick of it yet. But of course, it’s not four years old now. So 10 years now. What do you think

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Jon Bon Jovi  14:47

I would hope to say that you know that for my first year, I always said that the first album was as good an album as I could make. So that’s the same way I feel about jersey is the very best album I could make. You know? I mean, I had to listen to it about 10 days ago when I started doing love for sale again, because I forgot the words to it. They put the record on one day in the dressing room. And I never listened to my records ever. I have no idea we were doing in and out of love, because really just started getting into these requests, right? So somebody yelled out, in and out of love, and I forgot all the words to it, okay? And the next day, I listened to it in the dressing room. I forgot it, you know. So I put on a jersey album, and I like the album. It still stands up with me, you know, nine months later, I think it’s a good album. So, you know, to me, it’s as good an album as I could make.

Nestor Aparicio  15:40

Can you hang on one second call waiting. Thanks. Hold on. Do when you’re on the road, do you go home or like your Meadowlands shows? Now, that had to be something special. I mean, how many of your friends were there? I mean, your several people had 1500

Jon Bon Jovi  15:55

backstage passes.

Nestor Aparicio  15:59

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One hell of a party.

Jon Bon Jovi  16:01

I definitely make sure we throw a party at home, that’s for

Nestor Aparicio  16:06

sure. Now, where is home that you gave your house away? Oh, I mean, what happened with the MTV giveaway? What happened with that, that whole thing, they

Jon Bon Jovi  16:15

were sponsoring the first leg of the tour. They wanted to do a contest. They wanted something to do with the state of New Jersey being that was the album title. And my brother, Matt, 14 years old kid, said, Hey, why don’t we do this? And it was as simple as that, why don’t we give them the house? Because the house was for sale anyhow. And they did. The house was the

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Nestor Aparicio  16:39

house that Bon Jovi grew up in, was up for sale. No one thought

Jon Bon Jovi  16:43

was just on the market. I mean, it didn’t, you know, it didn’t necessarily say, Hey, this is John Bon Jovi’s house, you know, buy this and make it a museum. My parents live there. I don’t live there, you know,

16:53

but you grew up there, yeah.

Jon Bon Jovi  16:54

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So the house was for sale doesn’t mean that somebody wants to go and spend that kind of money to buy a house, you know, just because I live there.

Nestor Aparicio  17:00

So when you went out and moved moved out when you made your first album, or, yeah, okay, because it was my understanding when you did run away, that you were still pretty poor

Jon Bon Jovi  17:10

while in the streets, live in there, you know, I mean my third album, I was still writing songs there, but I didn’t live there anymore. All right,

Nestor Aparicio  17:20

when did you get married? I got like, a little blurb that said you were married. Yeah,

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Jon Bon Jovi  17:24

I’m married. I don’t want to get into my personal life

17:29

for public consumption

Jon Bon Jovi  17:30

only just because, you know, at some point you got to keep something sacred.

Nestor Aparicio  17:35

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How much do you see fans now? I mean, how many backstage passes are given on a certain night. How many to fans and how many

Jon Bon Jovi  17:45

to friends? I don’t know anybody in New Hampshire, but I would tend to think that till 50 or so.

Nestor Aparicio  17:53

So now today, you’re going to go out and play tennis. Is that right? You’re going to go outside. Do you get mobbed? No. I mean, don’t some fans. I mean the radical ones, just know where you’re going to stay, find out, and just wait for you to come out and with a tennis racket and a headband on,

Jon Bon Jovi  18:10

I imagine there will be some. And you sign an autograph, you take a picture, and then they’re happy, and you’re happy and you go out. It’s really not the great misconception that the world thinks it is, you know, if you go out in public, it’s not that people want you to die. They want to say hello, or they want to, you know, shake your hand, take a picture, get an autograph, whatever, and then that’s it. They don’t want to, you know, hang out in your room all day. Well, I mean, I’ve

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Nestor Aparicio  18:34

talked to you before. I met you when you played Baltimore couple years I thought that you were incredibly accessible. I mean, you weren’t what you are now then, though, I mean, the album just broke, and then slippery did, and I just thought by now, you might be the kind of person that would be couped up, that would have to be couped up, because, I mean, I mean, look,

Jon Bon Jovi  18:55

people go to me. Wow, you’re calling our hometown paper, you know? I mean, yeah, I am. What’s the big deal? I don’t mind doing it one bit. And you know, to me, it’s, it’s all part of it. I write you on it.

Nestor Aparicio  19:11

Okay, what music do you listen to when you’re you said you got your CD collection? JD, Constance, I wrote a story. I don’t know when you talk to him, but his story ran the paper today. He said you had a grab bag of quite a bit of different

Jon Bon Jovi  19:25

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stuff. I don’t know. Whatever the top tape that I’m looking at is Hank Williams, senior prince, the Atlantic rhythm and blues collection. Led Zeppelin, Ricky, Lee Jones, Don Hanley,

19:47

yeah. Like it, yeah. It

Jon Bon Jovi  19:50

takes some getting used to harvest. Graham Parker,

Nestor Aparicio  19:58

how much of the other guys in the band have you? Know, input. And when you write a song, you just write the lyrics. Somebody else writes music. Or I do both.

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Jon Bon Jovi  20:07

We both do both. So what happens

Nestor Aparicio  20:08

when you come to the studio, you get the other guys, Tico and these guys, and you say, this, what we want from you? Or

Jon Bon Jovi  20:16

no, not at all. My guys are, Oh, thanks. My guys are very creative. And no, here’s a little comparison. Rich and I wrote and produced a song for the Russian band Gorky Park, right? We helped get a record deal right, and their drummer did this whole album of his on a Simmons electric drum kit. So the kid has a hard time speaking English for one thing, and he doesn’t like to play drums for another.

Nestor Aparicio  20:48

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Maybe they smuggled the damn thing, just like

Jon Bon Jovi  20:50

this goddamn Simmons thing. So he leaves and leaves me to play the goddamn drums. I have to program every bass drum beat for three and a half minutes. I’ve never had to do this before. When I play a song, Pico is the world’s greatest drummer. In my opinion, this kid is amazing. He plays drums. I spent eight hours with the goddamn boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, bass drum. He plays it. I tell them I like it or I don’t like it. Change this, don’t change that. I don’t want to sit and program it based on for eight hours, so I leave it up to and that’s why we are a band.

Nestor Aparicio  21:31

Well, I mean, how often you see each other when you’re you’re you’re done with it, when you go off with your wife?

Jon Bon Jovi  21:36

We live together. This band sees each other more than you see each other’s girlfriends and

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Nestor Aparicio  21:41

wives. Where did you meet Richie? And where did you meet these other guys? Wasn’t one of your members, your band and Frankie, the knockouts. Is that Chico? Okay, that was a good song, sweetheart or whatever. Whatever happened to that band? And why? Never even hear that song anymore.

Jon Bon Jovi  21:58

Where did you get they were managed by Robin of Batman and Robin ward. That didn’t help.

Nestor Aparicio  22:07

That’s pretty funny with the Philadelphia band. It was from Jersey. Jersey. Okay, you were already teamed up with Richie at this point. When? When all this had happened? No, Ricky wasn’t

Jon Bon Jovi  22:19

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in the band. No, I was putting a band together around the song run away to do a couple of clubs for this radio station, because I was sort of breaking regionally. Washington was playing me, as a matter of fact, DC 101, or was it wave?

Nestor Aparicio  22:34

Yeah, I think it was DC 101, I’m not sure. I don’t

Jon Bon Jovi  22:38

remember one of the stations down there, the double base station was playing me, and I didn’t have a band. I was just a songwriter looking to get a band together because I couldn’t afford to keep a band. Well,

Nestor Aparicio  22:49

they were playing you How did you get the song? You know, a song, it was

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Jon Bon Jovi  22:53

on a homegrown album, but it did, you know, like your little radio station makes their homegrown record, they played at once at midnight. Who compiled the music in this thing, though? I mean, a DJ, a New York DJ, okay? And he found me and Twisted Sister on the same album. He convinced me to be on it. I had no desire to be on it, because I thought they’d play this thing once at midnight on a Sunday night, you know. And I laughed it off, and I said, Yeah, fuck this. And

Nestor Aparicio  23:20

what were you doing at this

Jon Bon Jovi  23:22

time, songs and working in a recording studio. And what happened was, it was a fluke. I started to get national airplay. So DC 101, goes and plays my record. Well, wave was pissed off because they don’t know where this record’s coming from, but they want to play it too. So this is how this war started across the country, playing my record and I put a band together to play a couple clubs. I got all these guys. It was supposed to be three weeks. It’s been six years. The knockouts were just between albums. Richie and Al were trying to get their own band off the ground. Dave was going to college, and I was pumping, you know, my songs out. This

Nestor Aparicio  24:02

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is almost like a 50 story. You know, this used to happen 30 years ago, but now, doesn’t? It hasn’t happened that way at anybody with

Jon Bon Jovi  24:09

you, and it did, and it’s pretty wild. All right.

Nestor Aparicio  24:12

Have you seen any other live acts when you’ve been out on the road this go around? Have you seen the WHO yet? Or no, do you aspire to see it. Who’s

Jon Bon Jovi  24:21

down there now, aren’t

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Nestor Aparicio  24:22

they? Yeah, they’re here tonight, last night and tonight, yeah, somebody

Jon Bon Jovi  24:24

was trying to get us to go down there, but we’re gonna spend the night off. I heard the show’s phenomenal.

Nestor Aparicio  24:30

I mean, I’ve heard mixed reviews, but I heard it’s not really you know, the who you know with Pete doing his deal.

Jon Bon Jovi  24:38

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I never saw the who

Nestor Aparicio  24:41

I saw McKinney in 82 Yeah, and, you know, I thought to me, that’s the who, because, I mean, you know, I’m 21 years old, and, you know, I didn’t see Keith Moon, and I grew up in the 60s. So to me, the who is Kenny Jones. But I also read today in confidantine story that you you like baseball. How often to. Games. What else do you do on the road to

Jon Bon Jovi  25:03

our little game? If I’m in a town, I was in Pittsburgh and I went to a game, the only game I’ve been to this year. I went to a bunch of basketball games this season. We enjoy that. If we have a night off, what else we’re going to do? You know, bar

25:17

you don’t have any friends in New Hampshire.

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Jon Bon Jovi  25:19

I love going out to a game, all right, junk food, drinking beer.

Nestor Aparicio  25:23

You are going to go to Soviet Union soon next month. Okay, when are you going? And what’s your what does it look like there?

Jon Bon Jovi  25:31

We’re headlining a big, big show, one

25:34

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day, show two days. Okay, 140,000 people each

Jon Bon Jovi  25:38

day, televised in 50 countries. Album to follow the bill is we’re headlining, then scorpions, Motley Crue, Ozzy, Osbourne, Cinderella, Skid Row, Corky Park and two other Russian bands, Aerosmith may or not be on the bill. Who knows they’re supposed to be? Everyone did a song by an artist that someone died, either with drug or alcohol abuse. Someone did that. When someone did the who someone did then Lizzie, someone did the sex. Pistol, Hendricks, Joplin, right? And so this album is coming out next month as well. Basically, life, man. You know, it’s a great life if you can get it, and there’s no reason fucking up regardless of you know, if you’re in a rock band or you’re the president united states, you know, there’s a reason why church don’t get up every day into a big line of GAC and go to work.

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What’s that reason

Jon Bon Jovi  26:33

he’s gonna run the biggest business in the world? America.

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Nestor Aparicio  26:37

It is a business. Well, I certainly appreciate your time, and maybe we can

Jon Bon Jovi  26:42

still get it together next week. Hey, I’m open to what I’d like to do is

Nestor Aparicio  26:46

something just a little more in depth about what you really do or what you did yesterday, you know. And Wednesday’s paper will say, Well, bondjeri was in town yesterday. What the hell they do? All do? Everybody wants to know. I mean, that’s, that’s my number one question. I

Jon Bon Jovi  26:58

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like your angle. I think it’s great. But I, honest to God, I can’t tell you what my schedule is. I have no fucking idea.

Nestor Aparicio  27:05

So this isn’t even up. This isn’t even your decision

Jon Bon Jovi  27:09

to make. They’ll ask me if I would take the time to sit with you, and I would say, Well, you know, one is he a fan? One, does he know what he’s talking about, you know, but you do, and it’s fine with me. And you’re not a 40 year old guy that would rather listen to REM so I can handle this, you know, that would be, you know, I would have to know these things, because otherwise you’re going to come out and the guy’s going to want to know about my wife, and it’s really not his business, kind of, you know what I’m saying, right? Right? If you want to talk about what, what’s behind the scenes at a rock band show. I’ll do that Sure. When you call Margaret, she’ll call me back on Monday. You’ll say, Margaret, he said it’s cool. She’ll call me back and say, did you say it’s cool? And I’ll say, yeah. So Tuesday, if we can, in fact, do it, then it

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would be fine. What time? Kind of thing? Best thing, you come

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Jon Bon Jovi  27:55

there and that sound check, which is usually like five, 536 o’clock. See what it’s all about. It’s Tim boy’s birthday, so I’m sure he’ll be a little off the wagon that

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day. It’s the all star game. It’s

Jon Bon Jovi  28:07

the all star game. Yeah, no, but that’s not in Washington, California,

Nestor Aparicio  28:10

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Houston was last year.

Jon Bon Jovi  28:15

I’d love to go the all star game.

Nestor Aparicio  28:17

Can you do the national anthem? One year I’ve been asked to do national anthem for lots of things. No,

Jon Bon Jovi  28:22

not for me. I talked to rush a couple

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Nestor Aparicio  28:24

years ago, and they wanted to come to a ball game here. And we talked about about going together and Getty Lee and I, and we, I called the Orioles and I said, Hey, get some tickets for these guys. You know, Canadian rock band. They love baseball, and they put baseball in their albums. And they said, did he do the national anthem? Daddy says we don’t do the national anthem. We don’t do anything without a monitor. So, all right, well, then maybe I’ll get to get in touch with you Tuesday, and maybe I’ll bring a tennis racket or something. All right, thank

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you. Thanks John. Thank you. Bye. Bye. You.