John Martin of Maryland Lottery makes his weekly visit with Nestor to discuss the 50th Anniversary celebration kicking into spring and some important words for the bracketologists and for those taking advantage of the new sports gambling activities around March Madness this month.
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SPEAKERS
John Martin, Nestor Aparicio
Nestor Aparicio 00:01
Welcome back at W and S T TAS Baltimore and Baltimore positive this is gonna be a good one. We are in the March Madness not just the madness of Lamar Jackson and franchise tags and like all of that but weโre getting the Maryland crabcake tour back out on the road now we did have a cancellation or actually a move move. isation a postponement postponement to move fade leads to a couple of weeks from now. We were a drug city last week. Itโs all brought to you by the Maryland lottery first chance to give away the wishbone old schooler scratch offs and my old school people in Dundalk new right what to do with it. I had a $10 winner at drug city on Friday with Mr. Calvin Stadium, which I just want to thank you, John Mark. Before I get into this, I got to thank our friends and window nation as well who sponsor our Marilee crabcake tour. This thing has moved into a new direction, where I get to bring a man who was very special to me seventh, eighth, ninth grade, my middle school music teacher, a man who was very special to a lot of people because he taught for 56 years in schools from Pikesville to Dundalk. We had people come out and give him hugs, and he played the piano. And heโs a wonderful man, Calvin said. So thank you to the Maryland lottery for getting us on the road. And you know what I learned John Martin, I learned in like truck cities kind of a special thing with the Maryland lotteries being like their old school 1954. They were like one of the first people in 1973 That said, Give me the tickets, give me the scratch. Iโll skate. We want to play the lottery here. So 50 years later, youโre celebrating a lot of places like drug city, I think and cost us and other places like that.
John Martin 01:37
Absolutely. We are matter of fact, we have it on our calendar for the month of April. Thatโs kind of our return back to our retailer network. And we have somewhere in the neighborhood of 30 to 40 retailers who go back to 1973. or there abouts. Weโre gonna do this close enough. If youโve been with us a long time youโre in the club. So yeah, Iโm gonna dust myself off what am I traveling suit and, and head out and actually have some fun with some great people, great families, a lot of me Iโve turned over there. Theyโre the next generation of of ownership in 50 years, thatโs to be expected. But nonetheless, itโs gonna be a lot of fun in April, weโll talk more about as we get to it,
Nestor Aparicio 02:21
I want to know about that, because I want to, like hit some of these places that might be and honestly, John, we put this partnership together a couple years ago, in the middle of a plague and Iโm doing this thing, I would just say some places like drugs, city, drugs City is one of those places that Iโve known about my whole life. I went there the other by the way, I want to plug you for a minute because
John Martin 02:40
this is gonna this is gonna cause my wallet.
Nestor Aparicio 02:44
I had George foetus on. Who is the Owner of drug city, you got it honest. Heโs a Greek town, pharmacist kid whose mom sent him over there to get a job, but he wanted to buy in the place, right. And these these really serious scratch offs. And this I have a sample. This isnโt a real one. But this is a real one, Iโll be giving these away on the crabcake tour. But but the $50 scratch off and he said to me, he literally looked heโs like, I thought like, whoโs gonna buy $50 scratch off, then it says $5 million prize. He said we canโt keep them in. He literally said that heโd be they canโt keep them in. So there are places like drug city that has this fountain, that I would think 15 years and I havenโt heard of them. But in their neighborhood. Theyโre legendary places, right? That had been a part of a lot of how many places? Could you get a lottery ticket in 1973? Because we think there were computers. I mean, Iโm just thinking like, in a different way, as far as you probably had to kind of go out of your way to get a lottery ticket in the beginning, maybe right?
John Martin 03:42
Well, you know what, itโs interesting. And folks can go to MD lottery.com. We have some of this nostalgia in history there. And I know because Iโve read it once somewhere in that, in our pages on our website, it will tell you the exact number of retailers, I believe it was in the you know, 2002 to 3000 numbers. So they really rolled this out. This was more than I expected. And then, you know, generationally when we brought in the Kino product was kind of like the next bump, which was back in the early 90s. So yeah, I mean, over time. And of course, today we have 4400 retailers. And thatโs been that number has been about static now for probably the last 10 years has been right around that number. Because I think by todayโs age, right, weโre 50 years in if you donโt if you havenโt heard about the lottery havenโt been paying attention. And and if you have youโve made a business decision one way or the other, either to have it as part of your portfolio or not. And we respect it either way. So you know, I donโt see a big infusion of additional retailers at this point.
Nestor Aparicio 04:39
Well, I mean it but rolling it out was something and 50 years later to still be here and drug city to be one of them. You know what I mean? Like and for me to be there last week to roll it out with these tickets. It was really kind of special and serendipitous because I didnโt play it that way. You got a lot of stuff going on and itโs March Madness. People are in my world bracketing out waiting out, I had a whole bunch college basketball sort of experts. Iโm waiting till next week to have more because I like I want to get more insight once the brackets get out. But itโs even more exciting locally because Marylandโs playing this year.
John Martin 05:11
It should be a lot of fun. I mean, itโs a funny thing happened in a way to the to the tournament, right. I mean, the Terps kind of made me stub their toe a little bit and last week of the season, but next week, come on, you know what, that thatโs the beauty of it, you know, everyoneโs reset to zero.
Nestor Aparicio 05:26
Itโs a second chance like the lottery. Oh,
John Martin 05:29
I see what you did there. Thank you. Thank you. I like that, you know, I caught myself in the monitor because if nothing else, I am vain. You know, I note to self donโt wear the gray sweater with the with the beard, man thatโs
Nestor Aparicio 05:43
very studious. You know, it looks like Iโm about to learn. Iโm sitting up in class with notes is what Iโm doing. You know, Professor Martin today? Well, I
John Martin 05:51
tell you what, then letโs get right to the learning stuff. Because as you alluded to, thereโs plenty of going on in our 50th anniversary year, we have a number of tickets, youโve youโve mentioned our instant lottery ticket, the $2 price point, which is a throwback to our 1976. Very first scratch off ticket, we have our $50 ticket called 50 years. And most of these games say most of these tickets have Second Chance prizes. So thatโs thatโs the beauty of it. If you donโt instantly win on the scratch, please enroll those tickets in your mind lottery rewards account for cash prizes that are revealed throughout the year. But no cash prizes as significant as our 50th cash bash 50th anniversary cash bash, which will culminate in September at the State Fair where one lucky player will have the opportunity to win up to $5 million.
Nestor Aparicio 06:47
I like going to the state fair because thereโs stuff there. You know what I mean? And they bring bands in I went last year, itโs good time. Hey, I want to talk about this thing for a minute. Because when I brought the guys from drug city on there, like weโve been buying a lot of these and breaking even and winning. But this $5 million dollar Scratch is literally unprecedented. Nobodyโs ever been ever been able to Scratch and win $5 million. And couple of these outright?
John Martin 07:13
Yeah, not certainly not in the state of Maryland and you know, ticket just to give you a little behind the scenes inside baseball stuff here. You know, each each state kind of plays to their level of first of all population. And why is population matter? Well, it just you know, as you disperse your player ship across all the strata in a state, you want to make sure you have enough people who are apt to pay $50 for a ticket, some states have not jumped into the $50 ticket. Itโs not a given. Because you have to offer a commensurate prize of value. And as we escalate, our $50 ticket has a top price of $5 million. You go to a larger state like like Texas, and they sell $100 ticket, which will just knock your socks off, right, Massachusetts. I mean, some of these states sell $50 tickets, like itโs itโs, itโs itโs nothing to
Nestor Aparicio 08:05
think about that. And sometimes he thinks like a little itโs like, well, and then I think people go to casino and play $50 hands all day long. I mean, like, unless I was in a casino, you couldnโt get a table for less than a $25. And in a lot of cases. So I donโt I think we think about it a little bit differently. And I would think the lottery we think about it differently. And if youโre a player, yeah, you want to have a good butyl when you want when you want to win big, and the guys that were playing a drug city that we were talking about this particular ticket, theyโre like, Hey, man, itโs 5 million bucks. Itโs like thereโs a chance to somebody, somebody around you. We hope weโre the ones that sell it quite frankly, right. The retailers want to sell it do.
John Martin 08:43
Yes, because retailers get a commission on on not only selling the ticket but cashing winners in their store. It can be a very lucrative business for for retailer. Itโs funny, you mentioned the casino. Part of it that was a definite input into our thinking is, well, gee, you bought a lottery player will that you know, 50 years ago, they bought $1 ticket and we we gasped when we tried to offer a $2 ticket, weโre doubling the price, what would happen? And now you know, we sit around talking about $50 tickets. But youโre right, a big market for this we anticipate and itโs proven out to be are those casino players who would not probably chase a ticket less than that donโt even know what a lottery ticket at one or $2 looks like. But youโre right. If theyโre sitting out on a night out at a casino when theyโre theyโve made the investment and theyโre playing responsibly and theyโre managing their budget. A $50 ticket to them may be appealing. So we do anticipate engaging a different type of player at this price point.
Nestor Aparicio 09:37
John Martin is here He is the executive director of all things Maryland lottery and gaming the gaming part being important here. And you mentioned news and where we are this the uptick we will see next Thursday, Friday, Saturday. And you know, I donโt know the march madness that the NCAA ever figured this all out but putting it right in the middle of St. Patrickโs Day, right. So people weโre out and about next weekend, this will be the first chance to literally at, you know, 10 3011 in the morning, you got brackets, you have all of that, but youโre watching these games, to maybe have a little bit more fun, a little bit more interest in it. And also through the weekend. This is a time where I would say gambling the word game. This is where everybody, everybodyโs played March, everybody has filled out a bracket, who likes sports in this country to win $1 You know, win mythical, whatever, wherever they are. This is a time to play for sports. And, and itโs, itโs something across the country that everybody gets involved in. Because state you gets in every once in a while. And here itโs happened. And weโve had miracles here with UMBC and compensate as well.
John Martin 10:48
Itโs interesting, Iโve not seen any data yet, it may still come out between now and tip off next week. But at the Superbowl, they hypothesized and extrapolated that the first time ever, that the Superbowl, public wagers exceeded the private wagers. And what I mean by that is, you know, weโve all been to Super Bowl parties, where you throw a buck and you get a square and you do those little friendly bets at the you know over the guacamole in the salsa, youโre youโre doing your wagers at the sports parties. But this last Supra was the first time that the legitimate mobile and retail wagering overtook that itโs legit
Nestor Aparicio 11:29
is what weโre saying where itโs gone, legit.
John Martin 11:31
And I wonder if weโre going to see a similar story from our friends at the American gaming Association ata everless have to march madness because again, as you alluded to, everyone over the years of a certain age knows about playing again squares and your brackets and your pool and whatever you do, but Iโm wondering if maybe the tipping point is going to come again, if not this year, probably next, where the the legitimize the the the public, wagering will overtake that,
Nestor Aparicio 12:00
whatever the stigma would be right to say, itโs on the up and up, I keep going back to on the up and up. This is a chance where, you know, people play in the points where, like, it makes it more fun to have five bucks or 10 bucks on a game. If youโre watching Roanoke plate. Yeah, Iโm making that up. But when the spreads at the end on these three pointers, itโs just itโs March Madness. They gave it the name for that, and people are glued to it. And itโs sports and and itโs more than one game, right? The Super Bowl, we could say the Super Bowl is the biggest event, whatever. Itโs one game March Madness. Iโm gonna go play 40 games next weekend.
John Martin 12:37
And it is I think you will you mentioned before that did the NCAA really think about it St. Patrickโs Day and all these other things going on, now that they may have fallen into that it may have just happened that way. Iโll tell you what was by design was the the designation of Marches Problem Gambling Awareness Month, that wasnโt an accident. And for all the right reasons, because again, with increased outlets comes increased responsibility.
Nestor Aparicio 13:02
I really did wonder why March I mean, I saw it in notes. And I didnโt even realize we were going to talk about it. But like, I was wondering why March all the sense in the world.
John Martin 13:11
And nowโs the time and youโll youโll see it more in television, youโll hear it more in radio, Maryland lottery gaming is proud to support all the efforts as relates to Problem Gambling Awareness, all year long, but particularly in March and and on our website, we put some some key takeaways, and Iโll just kind of run through them very briefly here. But people can go to MD lottery.com. For more information. But you know, first and foremost, please spend within your limits. Never borrow money to make it better to play. Understand the game youโre playing. If itโs March Madness, understand the seeds, and the point spreads. But if youโre playing Powerball and Mega Millions, if youโre playing pick three, again, understand the game that youโre playing, and what are the true odds of that. Please donโt put more on your plate. If youโre feeling stressed, if you had a bad day, with a spouse with a significant other at work, whatever. Maybe just relax, donโt donโt make a bad decision following a very difficult game and recognize as proficient as you think you may be, for the most part and knowing sports or sports expert, John. Yeah, Iโm glad weโre talking about right. But particularly on the lottery side, these are games of chance. There is no skill. When you buy a Powerball ticket. There is no skill when you buy a keynote ticket. These are games of chance. You can argue well, yeah, I am a sports expert. So I know the lines of it better. Okay, yeah, there may be some skill involved with sports wagering, but you know, another time in place. You know, there are bad beats and then there there are people make careers out of out of chronicling those. And probably most importantly, play for fun play for the entertainment play with friends who can help you stick to a plan stick to a budget. This is not a profit making venture people should not be thinking oh, Iโve got got rent due next Thursday. Let me go all in on on the 16th seat this week. So, you know, some tips and some some friendly advice, because thatโs what I do.
Nestor Aparicio 15:11
Well, you know, Iโve never been a sports gambler, right? And weโve talked about inside information in my journalism in 30 years, that that wouldnโt have been no bueno. For a long long stretches of time, you know, and whoโs injured, whoโs playing and having that sort of information that Mr. Harbaugh doesnโt like out none of people in the NFL like out either. But I did have an occasion many, many years ago, to be with Marvin Lewis and Iโll out him because heโs not he but we would watch film together every Friday in his office back in 1996 9790. He wanted to teach me football legitimately wanted me to heโs a teacher, much like Mr. State, Iโm a wonderful, heโs a teacher. Thatโs what football coaches are there. They teach young men how to play football, and technique and all that. And we were watching film one day, and he looked at me and I had a something crazy happened, the Ravens lost three touchdown lead, and everybody got beat at the end, because they werenโt very good in that period of time. And he was defensive coordinator. And he looked at me like, how do people gamble on this man, heโs like, I, I have all the inside information. I have no idea whether weโre gonna win or not. I have no idea which way the ball is gonna bounce. And the crazy stuff happens in games. So I took that to heart 30 years ago to say even the experts are the experts of the experts admit, I donโt even know what pass interference is. Sometime so please be responsible, I guess at heart, my comedic you know, because everybody likes that fun. Itโs March Madness. Just know your limits. Right?
John Martin 16:37
You know who else likes to have fun Nesta? Winners. Winners of Maryland lottery games love to have fun and why was in your living room
Nestor Aparicio 16:43
last week when I? Well, I my wife and I came down because we were going to drug City. She loves Mr. State. Um, so she took the day off. Like, sheโs like, I want to go see Mr. State and beat you up on the air and give you a hard time. And, you know, Iโm like, okay, so come along, shoot that day off, we came down, I had to pick these up because theyโre new, theyโre fresh. Itโs 50th anniversary, all that. So I came in and I my wife had never been, I thought sheโd been with me before, but sheโd never been there. You know, when I got this gig, she thought I was going to pull the little ping pong, but you have the machines in the lobby. So she I said youโre gonna love the machines. And then I took her to the buddy rugo room and Iโm like, the only people that get to go in this room are you and me and people that win like more than 100 grand or 50 grand or 100 grand? Well, they have to win.
John Martin 17:30
Oh, you know what, weโll let anybody in that room. The because we were celebrating, we celebrate all wins.
Nestor Aparicio 17:39
So well, but people get to come down and take a picture and they really get to have a good time when they win right and winners. Itโs fun winning when you when you scratch one of these you donโt just get the 5 million box you get itโs fun to come down and be a part and you love the stories that go along with it.
John Martin 17:56
You know those stories are in for many people are life altering and you know, just as you can go to NBA lottery.com and read a lot about it but but we try to feature a little bit of everything, whether itโs our fast play game, people winning on $50,000 on the fast play ticket. Powerball tickets, bonus Match five, you know, you look at all these things. And ironically, these things run in cycles, a lot of $50,000 winners, coincidence and our 50th anniversary year? I donโt know maybe maybe not. Well, you do know
Nestor Aparicio 18:28
when these things get printed out. Thereโs a winner out there and itโs going to come in and itโs probably going to come in from the state of Maryland and you know theyโre going to be really happy people and every point thereโs going to be story along with all those stories up at MD lottery.com You can find John Martin here each and every week and out on the front of Baltimore positive.com As we take the Maryland crabcakes weโre out on the road and get these $50 tickets that on a sample but I have real ones weโre going to be giving away on the Maryland crabcake tour in conjunction with our friends at wind donation. Did we cover everything John? We got people square you do have weโre gonna make some basketball picks next week. Weโll have some fun with that next week. How about that should
John Martin 19:03
be fun you know weโll be out and about I think you mentioned it last time. Thereโs a little bit of step in our prep in our step here and a little bit of Spring Fling and weโre going to be at the Maryland home and garden show we were there last week weโll be there that the the wrap up week. weekend this weekend. I may be out there myself personal appearance.
Nestor Aparicio 19:22
I have a garden this year. We have it we live down. People said why do you why did you leave downtown and my wife wanted to garden we want to outdoor space we have like a little deck now like so this is this is our year so the Home and Garden thing just spin the wheel is that what weโre doing out there?
John Martin 19:38
Absolutely can spin the wheel you can stop by our booth at the Home and Garden Show and then later this month weโll be back at Timonium for a great fun event the annual beer bourbon and barbecue
Nestor Aparicio 19:50
festival. Thatโs my dude there. I love Greg, great event.
John Martin 19:53
If youโd like to out of those three youโre in good shape there if youโd like if you got the whole Trifecta youโre in real good shape. I
Nestor Aparicio 19:59
went through the slit Last week at York City, their bourbon spat I mean, no one has more bourbon Right. Like, they have a tasting room. Itโs serious. Itโs not. Itโs not my you know, but beer. Oh, letโs go you know barbecue. Oh, man. Yes.
John Martin 20:11
And then a little tease a little tease coming up in April. We have the annual Maryland chicken wing festival. I canโt say that without smiling.
Nestor Aparicio 20:21
I donโt know about this. Youโre making me Google this.
John Martin 20:24
Yep. Go Go check it out. Itโs in. Itโs in Annapolis at the ANA rental country. County Fairgrounds
Nestor Aparicio 20:31
Maryland chicken wing Tour presented by now. Iโm gonna stay with the crab cakes, I
John Martin 20:35
think yeah, youโre probably a good fit.
Nestor Aparicio 20:37
I am a connoisseur or at least I think I am when it comes to wings.
John Martin 20:40
Iโm sure you are, Iโm sure. And I know what I know what youโre a connoisseur of as well. And thatโs all thing. Oh is related opening day on the horizon. April 6 against Well, the team that shall not be named. But April sixth, the OH is Maryland lottery will be there. So we were looking for a great season.
Nestor Aparicio 20:57
Iโm home runs again this year, something different. You
John Martin 21:00
know what, this is going to be fun. And let me just tease it now. But weโre doing our annual home run riches pay off where we have a contestant the game. And for every homerun hit $500 This year, big deal. Big difference because we know at some point in the year the Oโs will hit their 50th. Home run. Traditionally, itโs the end of
Nestor Aparicio 21:20
May, beginning of June. See what you did there. Okay,
John Martin 21:22
if that happens to be your lucky game, you will win $50,000 Weโll talk more
Nestor Aparicio 21:28
about like that. All right. Weโll talk a lot about that because weโve talked a lot of oral baseball around here, right? Or is it gonna be good? Weโre into it. Every time you mentioned the Orioles in the lottery, all I think about is that Gary Rennick key homerun back in 19, like 79 or 83 whatever year it was when he won the lady the million bucks and the bases were loaded. And every time the bases were loaded, Brooks would say Now come on, Bill come on Scotty weโre gonna weโre gonna win a million dollars now. And he was always a pop out or he hit the bat, you know, something would happen. And then boom, it like I remember itโs 50 years well, 40 years ago, and I remember like it was yesterday. So baseball and lottery go together. So to crabcakes and wn St. Baltimore positive. Iโll be giving away the instant lottery scratch offs here into the spring I got I got I got loads of them. But I gotta make some crab cake dates. I want to throw this out just for everybody listening. If you have a crab cake recommendation, or even an oyster recommendation, because Iโm sort of on that a little bit as well, for later in the year. Throw it to me next at Baltimore positive.com. In the meantime, John will gamble responsibly, will play responsibly. Weโll bracket responsibly next week and will spring and St. Patrickโs responsibly as well. And I will see you on the other side for crabcake. All right. Thanks, Nas look forward to it. John Martin, Director of all things at Maryland lottery and gaming donโt forget the gaming side mobile wagering open we got March Madness happening next week. We got the Maryland crabcakes weโre back out on the road is also presented by our friends at window nation I love them because they make me wear the the floppy hat I feel like every time I put this on I think it Tony Siragusa back in the day with a goofy floppy hat and I looked really funny in it but Iโm gonna put it on anyway. 866 90 nation buy to get two free 24 months 0% financing and my friends it cost the same with the white. I am Nestor we are wn st am 1570, Towson Baltimore. We never stop talking Baltimore. Positive Lamar Jackson March Madness franchise tagging. Oh, itโs a mess.