On the eve of another Masters, our Augusta insider and head PGA Pro at Pine Ridge Ed Miller, heads back to Butler Cabin and briefs Nestor on the big weekend of golf that will get you back on course to hitting the ball on a Classic Five local course here in Baltimore.
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SPEAKERS
Ed Miller, Nestor J. Aparicio
Nestor J. Aparicio 00:01
Welcome home we are wn St. am 5070, Towson, Baltimore and Baltimore positive. Weโre taking the Maryland crabcake tour back out on the road. Iโm wearing my Coco shirt because that was trying to honor Ed Miller here for classic five because, you know, I always see the golfers coming into Cocoโs, but weโre gonna be a Costas on Tuesday all day long leading up to the Oriole game at two oโclock, talking about bridge issues in the peninsula and all sorts of very important things. Also on Friday, we will be at fadeless down at Lexington market, the new Lexington market. Itโs beautiful come by. Youโll recognize it because all the same stuffs hanging on the walls, but itโs completely updated. Itโs completely modern, the foodโs delicious. Come on by two until five on Friday. Iโll be there with Luke Jones from two until three. And weโre live because I like walking a tightrope and not urinating during my show between two and five because I wonโt have time to do that live radio changes everything and how are we been happy golf season to you I owe my apologies for my tardiness. As David Lee Roth said I donโt feel tardy, but i Everything
Ed Miller 01:01
is great. Nestor thank you so much for having me. Looking forward to the season weatherโs hopefully finally breaking and weโll see what happens even then look to warm the other day.
Nestor J. Aparicio 01:11
Hey, you know, I mean, watching all this cold ass baseball. Iโm thinking itโs cold every itโs cold to go after cocoas and get a crab kick the other day. Yeah, I guess for golf season. Weather is, you know, for most people not for I mean, I know a bunch of knuckleheads go out into shorts and play when itโs 38 degrees, right for kids. But for most people to enjoy the sport, you know? 5862 You know, just something that that moves the needle and sunshine and not with these rain last weekend.
Ed Miller 01:44
Yeah, wasnโt the best golf weather this past week, unless you wanted to ride around in a boat before you hit your shop. Yeah, well,
Nestor J. Aparicio 01:51
I guess for the season to really get into gear this. This is what weโre doing. Weโre working with classic five again, appreciate the partnership as always. And weโll talk about classic five because I talked about in the ads and I I sort of think like everybody sort of knows where they are. They probably donโt and youโve moved around from place to place. And Iโm over Cocoโs I was there two weeks ago getting a crappy a bunch of golfers came in and because itโs right around the corner, right I mean, I guess the thing about classic five is just one right around the corner for almost everybody.
Ed Miller 02:19
It seems that way. Yes, sir. We got the whole Baltimore area surrounded and then golfers were probably from Mount Pleasant the other day
Nestor J. Aparicio 02:24
i Thatโs exactly where they were from when I strike up conversation with them about radio and sports and new Orioles ownership. I did not you know golf is not something for me that I would naturally be in a conversation. Like if I sat next to Jim Nantz on a plane I probably wouldnโt talk golf with him. If I sat with a golfer I might not talk golf with him so much. The baseball conversation it is amazing. Everybody talks it when people talk golf on a golf course right now, given the political state of all of this and all the prime golfers in the world and had to sort of pick aside or make a stand or say something that pisses people off one way or another um, golf it feels to me on the outside itโs been a little bit targeted more in that way than any of the other sports that we have to talk about whoโs playing where and why and for how much money and what they said in the media the last six months right?
Ed Miller 03:16
Absolutely itโs itโs definitely the last 18 months or so itโs definitely been a new topic in golf with the whole live thing and everything and I guess the irony in that is the Masters this week which in my mind is always kind of started the golf season when the Masters rolls around but Augusta is one of the few that you know allowing 13 to 14 live players actually play so it ramps up again and you know it gets all the customers and the golfers talking again you know like you said they pick aside some guys or for some guys weโre against it and
Nestor J. Aparicio 03:45
oh professional wrestling Now the one thing about golf like yeah, youโd love Tiger Hey Tiger but but nobody really rooted against or for most people other than you like John Daly who didnโt or Yeah, I mean some people didnโt like certain personalities with golfers or whatever. But it was much more like not like the wrestling circuit where you had good guys and bad guys but very very fiercely independent. Same with tennis nationalities are involved all of that stuff you like left handers you might like Mickelson or whatever. This is been a little bit more on the toxic side for me on the outside and and again Iโm not up on the fire with it. But to say like Itโs like professional wrestling itโs like good guys and bad guys. And I think that thatโs really unfortunate because Golf was never that way.
Ed Miller 04:34
Correct. Right? Thatโs you know, Iโve been a golfer my whole life and itโs always been about whoโs your favorite golfer looking forward to certain events but youโre right the last year has definitely been about pick a side and almost becoming like politics or religion.
Nestor J. Aparicio 04:49
And more than that, I guess on a Sunday at at Augusta when you know weโre the Azaleas are out and theyโre piping in the birds, whether in the bees or whether theyโre real or not. I donโt Though they sound cool, they keep they make me turn the sound up friends, you know, but I would just say when all that is taken away over watching 50 years of the Masters back then Nicklaus and Arnold Palmer and all that stuff, it really is about the play, right? I mean, it really like it is about the shot, the lay the air, where the whole you know, like, once it gets to that, and I guess everybodyโs thankful for that. I mean, the same thing would be said about March Madness were to me, theyโve destroyed college basketball, they had to do this pay the kids, but they donโt have to, for me to sit here talk about it all day. Iโm not all that interested in it. And then the other part of it is sort of like, they play and then you know, you get to watch Caitlin Clark play, you get to watch not Tiger Woods, but you get you know, like you get to watch Modern golfers do what they do, and you get to go out on the golf course and say, I saw him hit that shot. Iโll never be able to hit that shot, but itโd be trying. Right. Exactly,
Ed Miller 05:58
exactly. And you know, the irony and all that too is weโre talking about Tiger even though I do believe heโs playing this week, but you got a young guy and Scottie Scheffler heโs heโs doing the closest thing to Tiger you know, in the last 10 years and you know, weโre talking more about the 13 live guys coming over like rom I guess thatโd be good for television, their little John ROM or Scottie Scheffler maybe on the weekend, who knows, but Well,
Nestor J. Aparicio 06:20
right. If youโre on Sunday, itโs itโs alive guy. And then then it becomes something that everybodyโs talking about. I just think thatโs so unfortunate, but thereโs been so much money in golf, itโs so much interest in golf, you spent a lifetime teaching people how to play, this is your time in the season. Tell me what youโre doing now, because youโre up at Pine Ridge, Pine Ridge is unique because I mean, the machines up there and you can go and play alone and have a computer and measure every shot. I mean, I sort of looking at it is when Iโve seen it is just a way to get better at golf. If I were if I were going to pick up a club, my backโs a little better, by the way. But if I were going to pick one up and get after it, I might be more inclined to like, start there and see what Iโm doing right and wrong. Absolutely.
Ed Miller 07:03
You know, like, I appreciate it. But yes, now Iโm at Pine Ridge, and probably one of the busiest facilities in the state of Maryland, definitely in Baltimore. But we have the top tracer at the driving range. Weโre hoping to get both both sides of the fence meaning you know, the experience golfer who wants to use the technology to get better. And weโre also looking to get the casual golfer who wants to come out and, and have some fun play games on the computer and all that kind of fun stuff. We actually got a food truck trailer up there at the driving range now to you know, serving alcohol, that kind of stuff. So
Nestor J. Aparicio 07:33
I knew that was a missing ingredient. When I was up there about two three years ago. Iโm like, yeah, the food up here for me. I you know, we have food truck up here. Perfect idea. I would say for Pine Ridge, more than nit, Look, man, Iโve been on all these courses, right? Iโve done every charity, Iโm doing this 25th documentary. And I did golf tournaments back at River downs in the late 90s. There I had my towel for me cheese, May of 1997. You know, it was the first first annual nasty outing golf out. And you see, youโd be shocked that I have a little issue with all this. But you know, I think for anybody thatโs going out to play, you want to get better, you want to have some level of instruction. I mean, from the minute that norm taught me to not hold the thing like a baseball bat, you know, I think for people that maybe are away from the game, watch the Masters this week, maybe theyโre into the political WWE strife of good guys. Maybe maybe that brings attention back to the game. But that attention always leads to I want to pick up a club and I want to play in many, many cases. Most people that watch golf, want to play golf, and enjoy playing golf and want to do it better. Absolutely.
Ed Miller 08:41
You know, and honestly, doing it better is probably one of the key elements to having fun in golf and sticking it out. So, you know, definitely, our lessons and clinics have definitely ramped up over the last few weeks. And thatโs the best part about this time of year. Come out, get a lesson or two. You know, we donโt want you to take 100 lessons because obviously, the sooner we get you on the golf course, the more fun youโre gonna have. But itโll definitely help make your enjoyment of the golf itself better if you actually kind of know what youโre doing. So
Nestor J. Aparicio 09:10
I played little league baseball, I played literally football. I talked to John Rollo about that a couple months ago, I had him on the show, because we were on the same team, believe it or not, he was a giant then nobody wanted to tackle. He was sort of like Derrick Henry. Nobody wanted to tackle him. And I did bowling. You know, I did duckpin bowling. I was in Highland Tannerโs League and heโs from the fact that kids can be a part of leagues and can be a part of this and I think the other part of Pine Ridge, but itโs for all the courses because you can go to Forest Park, get to any of these courses and be involved in some way wherever you are. But Iโm on the north side now. You know, Iโm going to Towson area. Itโs it feels like itโs five minutes from almost everything even like Parkville Whitemarsh. Not that far. Tell me about like modern. If I had a nine year old boy or girl who Yeah, I donโt want to put them in the cross. I donโt want head trauma. I donโt want baseball theyโre not interested in that, you know, soccer, theyโre not down. Theyโre not good enough for that, that hereโs a sport, they could pick up something and start and say, All right, and something if Iโm a parent and I want to play my wifeโs always angling to play golf, that to bring a child down, put them in a league and get them started. How would someone do that? Absolutely.
Ed Miller 10:17
Well, you can definitely get to our website, you know, classic five golf. But at Pine Ridge, we have an interclub we have a junior camp starting in a couple months. We definitely like you said we have play days for the juniors want to say Wednesdays and Saturdays we say Junior
Nestor J. Aparicio 10:31
camps that you already have to be a golfer or is that a startup? Is that is that?
Ed Miller 10:36
Start up be a brand new golf for beginners? Absolutely. You know, as you advance through, we definitely have some more itโs for
Nestor J. Aparicio 10:43
like a kid, take take a week and go learn about golf. And by the end of the week, youโll be better at it.
Ed Miller 10:49
Okay, absolutely. And then, you know, like you said, thereโs definitely a lot more opportunity for juniors to play them when I was a 789 year old kid. Thatโs
Nestor J. Aparicio 10:57
what Iโm saying. I had no accent was no access point to me. I mean, Mr. Frank across the street, had clubs in his back in his trunk. And he played a Sparrows Point, but like 10 years old, like, you know, I mean, I didnโt know there werenโt a lot of people in Dundalk that had club Mr. Frank at clubs, Mr. Joe had clubs, but like, on my blog, there were a couple of men who play golf, my dad, my dad didnโt, but the race is my dad was baseball, boxing, football, basketball, just more traditional sports, page sports, but golf did not have the access points that it has now. And I think that thatโs a beautiful thing for anybody that wants to play. And I think we see that over the century that where our golf stars are coming from, itโs not just a Florida, Texas thing, or just an Arizona thing. Itโs an every everywhere thing, right? Absolutely.
Ed Miller 11:43
Absolutely. You know, itโs funny you say that, but we have a local kid whoโs got a chance to win the PGA Tour event today. Mr. Danny McCarthy, but youโre right Golf has just finally, you know, I guess you definitely think Tiger for that. But golf is definitely considered, I guess one of the more, you know, popular sports now. And youโre right, we see. I see 1000s of kids a season now, whether theyโre brand new or more advanced and playing in high school, but Golf has definitely become the opportunity for kids to be able to participate in play, just like they would lacrosse, soccer. All those other sports, baseballโs same thing.
Nestor J. Aparicio 12:15
You get to play in baseball, you got to practice basketball. A lot of that golf is itโs all practice. Itโs like yoga. Itโs just a series of classic five, heโs up at Pine Ridge. Theyโre gonna be on all summer with us. So full disclosure, I blew at off. I was late getting here because I worked on a Sunday. Because like, you go into a gosta you have been before, correct? Yes, sir. Iโve
Ed Miller 12:44
been a couple of times you and Iโve
Nestor J. Aparicio 12:45
discussed this before. So youโve been four times, give me the inlay to how you got tickets, how you go about doing it, once you do it four times. Iโm thinking like, if Iโm ever gonna do it, Iโm gonna talk to Ed because heโs done it wrong. Heโs done it right. Heโs done a good, heโs not a bad. But nonetheless, Iโm appreciative that you could still make this thing happen this week. And I want to hear your excitement about it. Because nobody wakes up thinking theyโre going to go I mean, Iโve turned down, Iโve told you this, I was offered a chance to do my show nasty nationwide. And I said, let Bob and bill go do it. Because they like golf better. Itโs just going to be better for them in the morning show like it just be better. So I didnโt go to the masters. And then my wife got sick. And then after that Mike Smith was the Falcons coach, and he invited me and itโs just my wife was sick, and she couldnโt do it. We had flight in the Charlotte, we had it all like mapped out and all that. So give me your week because itโs still something that I donโt want it to my bucket list anymore. I donโt know that, that I that I have that. But if you called me tomorrow and said, My buddies out, can you do and I say let me get the cat sat for my wife gets back. Letโs go. Iโm in, I would totally go. But I donโt want to go through the pains of whatever youโve gone through to do it. So I want to hear about this because Iโm excited for you. All right,
Ed Miller 14:01
well, I appreciate that. But this is gonna really, I donโt know, this might rock the boat a little bit. But Iโve been a PGA professional for over 20 years Nestor and I just found out about six years ago that as a PGA professional, I get free admission into the masters. And thatโs when I started going to the Masters now I get one ticket. But as a PGA professional, I get in and I get to go see the masters and you know, to relay that my best friend from high school put in for a lottery because thatโs normally how you have to do it. And it took him 18 years before he finally got tickets to the masters. And that was actually last year.
Nestor J. Aparicio 14:35
Did he go to the actual events? Or was it the warm ups? I know itโs Iโve had friends who have gone down there Tuesday, Wednesday, kick the ball around a little bit. And then Iโve had friends with a badge on Sunday and you know, walk in 17 Like the whole deal. Iโve seen it at every level. Um, and I maybe Iโll get there one day, you know, why do I need to go?
Ed Miller 14:54
Well, to me itโs like the Super Bowl of golf. You know, first of all, itโs a itโs a very into bid setting even though it is a major event as 1000s of fans, but the setup there is unlike any other golf tournament that Iโve ever been great places for the spectators to sit great views. And the one thing you know, like when I first you know, I watched the masters for 30 years on TV before getting there. And the sounds that cheers and they always talk about how thatโs like the one course in America thatโs itโs almost like a stadium, you no matter where youโre at on the golf course you can hear the cheers. And you almost know whatโs going on, on what part of the golf course and itโs like really narrow
Nestor J. Aparicio 15:31
and smaller than you think and hilly. Right, yeah,
Ed Miller 15:35
everything is so much closer. Thatโs what I mean. So you can be on the 12th hole. And when somebody makes the ego on 15 You know it and you can pretty much you can almost tell who it is even though thereโs no televisions or anything out there, but you just kind of know and you know, to top it off to itโs one of those events where the food and the drinks prices are still like 9095 and
Nestor J. Aparicio 15:54
you eaten those pimento sandwiches my mother used to eat down in the south, you know, birth
Ed Miller 15:58
year I went try to just to try it not really my cup of tea itโs gnarly.
Nestor J. Aparicio 16:02
Yeah, itโs like itโs like bad cheese and cream is terrible. And Millerโs here heโs going to the masters. You can visit him at Pine Ridge you can visit any of course is with Mount Pleasant forest Bark, bark. I left one out, left uplifted i i would get into it. I was down there. The other day I was down I was down Clifton Park because that was the Cocos right up the street from there from Clifton not mount Mount Pleasant now thinking about it. Like literally, um, but so for for local courses and for the weather and the water and all of this stuff. Every time Iโm at Pine Ridge, itโs just I was gonna say to you, youโre there now. I donโt want to be snooty because Iโm a Iโm a Dundalk punk you know what I mean? Country Club, but itโs, itโs beautiful. Itโs, you know, it feels like youโd have to pay to attend. You know, and Iโm not saying itโs not like that with more urban places. Iโve driven a bus to Clifton Park all my life going to 33rd Street. So I mean, you know, I used to go through that golf artery and coming off the course. But But then thereโs the bikini wax tree like beautiful, but classified has something for everybody including,
Ed Miller 17:11
absolutely you know, the classic five like you said, five courses. Clifton Park, ironically, our oldest over 100 years old, I am a little bit spoiled with Pine Ridge and that the reservoir that atmosphere it is very beautiful. Baltimoreโs very lucky to have that golf course around the reservoir. But like you said, forest parks fun, great golf course, Mount Pleasant, famous for the, you know, the PGA Tour history, great layout, but you can pretty much have fun at any one of our five courses guaranteed. And it will test your skill level, regardless of what you want.
Nestor J. Aparicio 17:40
And you get a PGA professional like Ed that will show you how to hold the club the right way. And are there any beginner tips that you would give to people maybe your first thing I would say to anybody, especially my age is stretch before you do whatever youโre gonna do donโt get hurt. So thereโs my thereโs the optimist in me to get people back out. But if people are dusting off clubs and are thinking about clubs, sizes, changes, want new this want new that want to get my game back to where it was in 1991. You know, whatever my kids were in college or whatever. This is a time where people do rekindle that right, they pick it back up again.
Ed Miller 18:19
Absolutely. And you know, the one thing I would say that todayโs golf versus 20 years ago, the technology is out there to custom fit you so much faster. So you know your swing may not be as fast as it was 2030 years ago, and all that kind of stuff. And thereโs more choices and equipment. So we can definitely put you in equipment thatโs going to make golf a little bit easier, more fun for you without necessarily breaking the bank. Because again, the better you play the probably the more fun youโre going to have when youโre out of that golf course.
Nestor J. Aparicio 18:46
I pick up these clubs now when I go to like the charity thing I do with Leonard Rask. And he does the thing for Matt Walsh. And I pick up the clubs and Iโm like, doesnโt feel at all like the bag. It almost feels like Flintstone clubs, you know from the ones that I had back in the day from Sears you know? So donโt play golf like that. You got any thoughts on the masters of Pixar and you are going for the whole week? Youโre gonna be there through Sunday?
Ed Miller 19:08
No, Iโm actually only going for a few days Iโll be back to work by next weekend for sure. But
Nestor J. Aparicio 19:13
youโll be ill everybody like everybody else in front of the television at two oโclock on Sunday.
Ed Miller 19:17
I hope so. Yeah. degrees Bโs you know, but yeah, Iโll definitely be watching it on Sunday from the television. But My money is on Scottie Scheffler you know a second weโll see what happens.
Nestor J. Aparicio 19:30
Well, itโs itโs the best golf tournament in the world. Edโs gonna get down there take selfies and pictures of Butler cabin and get himself fitted for the green jacket. I got invited to Bob Eric and some other folks may be coming on later on this week as well. Itโs masters week enjoy it. Baseball is going on you got to be on the Orioles because you werenโt you began this whole thing Tom at the crappy weather.
Ed Miller 19:55
Now just excited to be an Oreo fan this year. You know that you know offensive cool down a little bit. Definitely excited to where the season goes. And, you know, ironically, half of the baseball players are golfers too, you know, so they just got to put their clubs away for a few months. But uh, yeah, letโs go close.
Nestor J. Aparicio 20:09
So I you know, for years I had orange Kool Aid packets that were here. And we would say weโre drinking the orange Kool Aid Kool Aid canisters because they were terrible. And even if they told you, they might be good, youโd have to be drinking the orange Kool Aid, you know, in order to buy in, I now have an orange highlighter. So you know, because Iโm here to highlight all the highlight things that are going to be highlighted because I feel things are gonna get better. Thatโs why I have the sunshine over my shoulders here like you know, John, John Denver sunshine on my shoulders makes me happy. At first place makes me happy good baseball, good weather. I hope to come and visit with you and I hope we do that. I want to get up there get the food truck and see whatโs going on and bring my wife because she really wants to play my back wonโt allow but I grew up and maybe play with a bucket of balls with her. Weโll do that at Pine Ridge with you one day weโll organize that Alright,
Ed Miller 20:59
sounds like a total plan Nestor would love to have you up there.
Nestor J. Aparicio 21:02
Weโll spend too much money at the Masters on $2.99 cent pimento sandwiches or whatever they are. Yeah, weโll do our best not to for sure. All right, enjoy yourself have some peaches and cream or whatever they have down there on the south end millet can be found at Pine Ridge. There are five courses classic five we talked about it all the time youโll hear the ads if you want to rekindle you want to pro you want to tip you want to just a nice course and a nice experience and affordable way go to classic five golf.com You can make appointments online or you can also reach them you can also make tee times so itโs very very easy to to get schooled up and get yourself back out on the golf course good stuff moving a little bit more than anything else. Itโs time to get almost went dancing the other night with alternate day but you gotta get I gotta get moving a little bit more. Thatโs what spring is all about around here. Weโre gonna be moving to Maryland crabcake tour all around town. We started Costas on Tuesday. The ninth on the 12th will be fade these walls to be failures on the 26th. I have postponed Cocoโs on the 18th and I had a Bruce Springsteen emergency. Thatโs all Iโm gonna say. So we punted on that. Weโre going to do Cocoโs in early June because sheโs got graduations and Morgan State and Coppin State, everybody wants to Go Goโs crabcakes so in May, weโre going to cool that down and weโre gonna go to some new places with the Maryland crabcake tour. It is brought to you by the Maryland lottery, Iโm Nestor we are wn St. Am 1570 tasks in Baltimore. And we never stop talking Baltimore positive