The emergency mid-summer sports huddle with Allen McCallum, Luke Jones and Nestor on the Maryland Crab Cake Tour at Reter’s Crab House & Grille in Reisterstown meant a frank last-place discussion about David Rubenstein, Mike Elias and the All-Star break and trading deadline with paramount importance to the future of the Baltimore Orioles.
Nestor Aparicio, Allen McCallum, and Luke Jones discussed the Baltimore Orioles’ struggles and the future of General Manager Mike Elias. They highlighted the team’s recent poor performance, noting they’ve been no-hit in three of the last five games. Luke emphasized the need for better hitting in the second half and praised Brandon Hyde’s summer. They debated the readiness of top prospects like Samuel Basallo and Coby Mayo, stressing the importance of apprenticeship and defensive development. They also discussed the impact of analytics on player deployment, particularly the team’s reliance on left-handed bats and the need for right-handed power hitters.
SUMMARY KEYWORDS
Baltimore Orioles, Mike Elias, Adley Rutschman, minor league performance, pitching issues, analytics, prospect development, catcher apprenticeship, offensive strategy, injury impact, trade deadline, team rebuilding, fan engagement, Maryland crab cake tour.
SPEAKERS
Allen McCallum, Nestor Aparicio, Luke Jones
Nestor Aparicio 00:00
Welcome home. We are W, N, S T am 1570 task of Baltimore. We are Baltimore positive. We are positively in Reisterstown or registers town. We’re giving away the Back to the Future scratch, also courtesy of the Maryland lottery. It is the Maryland crab cake tour. It is a summer day, sort of huddling up here with my two baseball key, massabi who somehow, someway, have never done this together on my airwaves. Alan McCallum has been my baseball guy for 30 years. Anyone familiar with wnst knows that, and of course, Lucas been with us for going on 17 years now. Our 27th anniversary begins on August 3. I’m getting out to new places like reader’s crab house. Here. We’re gonna be out at 1623 brewing. In Eldersburg in a couple of weeks. We have Old Faithful on the 10th the new Costas in simonium. That’ll that’ll happen in the afternoon. And we’re also going to deepasqualease in Canton. I’m looking forward to that’s going to be a great, great show. Dan Rodricks is coming. Joe Giordano is coming, Pete karenge stopping by that day. That’s the eighth but right now we’re in Reisterstown, Lucas here, Allen is. Here we are in the midst of a baseball conversation in regard to healing the Baltimore Orioles. This is so typical. And Alan, I’m going to roll you under the bus big time right now, because back in the day I Allen did radio, and Spiro Swami, all these guys, Messina was there, and whenever I would leave them to do anything, I’m trying to sell things. Do things. Deal with listeners. Do email. I come back and they’re talking about ops or they’re talking about war. We weren’t talking about ops and war back in the day. I can assure all I know is I went, peed, and I came back, I tried to get your orders in for lunch. And I sit down, and I put my hand my head, the first thing I hear is and then there’s ruchman. So I walked in on and then there’s ruchman, but I did miss the last four and a half minutes of your off air ramblings. I think, where we want to start with this with Luke’s premise, which is, they got to hit the ball in the second half. That’s the only thing that matters. You talking about Elias keeping his gig and where that is, and me wondering if any of them really know what they’re doing. And Luke, you had some sort of GPS metaphor that you used as to how lost they are in the desert at this point, when, as we sit here, they have been no hit deep into games three out of the last five days, yeah, and
Luke Jones 02:21
I mean, obviously the last week has been very ugly, and I think we all acknowledge they played better over the last month, but the bar was so extraordinarily low through the third week of May, as Brandon Hyde can attest to, which, by the way, I’ll continue to say Brandon Hyde having a way better summer than anyone in Baltimore at this point. I said that at the time, but that still holds true.
Nestor Aparicio 02:40
Only got a happier hymns give me when you’re wild with next but you know what? And
Luke Jones 02:44
full disclosure, I was Alan and I were talking a little bit between segments, and I use this analogy where, look, when Mike Elias and sigma Adele arrived, we know that the Orioles were absolutely in the Dark Ages. First of all, they had lost 115 games, or whatever it was, in 2018 in a year that. Mind you, they entered. They tried, actually hoping to make it as a wild card at the very least. And clearly, that’s why they that’s why they better not lose 100 to this year. So fully acknowledging there was, there was a lot of catching up that needed to be done. They did that. They did that very successfully. They got to the point where they were considered innovating and cutting edge around baseball. And they did that, and they built this thing that from the second half of 2022 through the second half, or through the first half of last year, was arguably the best team in baseball, and certainly one of the one of the 234, best teams in baseball with the most coveted farm system, exactly, exactly, and thinking the arrow was just pointing up in just about every way you can imagine. Okay, the pitching you can but you had Bradish, you had Grayson Rodriguez, you had Felix Bautista, who had been such a pleasant surprise there, and all these resources. So you fast forward to where they were at the end of June last year, which was again a record that was right there amongst the best in baseball. Okay, their pitching questions wasn’t as dominant, but their offense was a top five offense in baseball as it had been the year before, and had trended that way in a couple of years for for us to talk in terms of almost feeling like a light switch was flipped, and for it to have regressed and declined as rapidly as it has, and it’s gotten worse, not so much the last month, but speaking in terms of the second half of last year being middling, and then it being bottom 10 and some categories even being worse than that, in 2025 I get it. Injuries are part of that. Fully acknowledge that, but still so bad, where you just look at this and it’s like, it’s almost like a someone who had, like, this great toy, like a GPS that, oh man, everything’s going along great. Look how smart we are. And I’m. Not even trying to get into like, the arrogance of analytics. I know people will speak in those terms, and I’m not, but that’s not even my point here. But it’s almost like something just disappeared or went away, and they just like
Allen McCallum 05:13
someone stuck a voodoo took a boot at all and stuck a knife, knife in its back and said, You will not succeed. And
Luke Jones 05:18
anything, and even in the minor leagues, like their numbers in the minor leagues, in the lack of success in the minor leagues. Now, part of that is, yes, you did have some top prospects graduate. I understand why they’re not ranked number one anymore, but even just in terms of team success and guys they’ve drafted the last couple years. I mean, you know Enrique Bradfield, who I kind of like, but he’s had hamstring issues and has missed a lot of time this year. Vance honey cut their first round pick last year, has had a disaster of a start at Aberdeen, which Aberdeen notoriously, is known as kind of a tough place to play, and you even look at like gunner Henderson and guys like that.
Nestor Aparicio 05:53
Why is it? Do you know? I think you know the I’ve heard
Luke Jones 05:57
different things about the ball. I mean, I’ve only watched, I think, one or two games at Aberdeen. So I don’t want to speak as an authority on it, but I’ve heard about the, you know, the ballpark, the lighting, the atmosphere, all these different things really okay, but, but, but all that said, everything, even in the minor leagues, is not trending. Other than Sam visayo, who has looked phenomenal as a triple a hitter, but part of me is just like, is he going to struggle like all the other guys do when he gets called up? So
Allen McCallum 06:24
everybody wants him to come up right now. And for me, I think they get this part right that I believe in apprenticeship. That’s the first thing. I think he needs to he needs to earn his bones, particularly behind the plate. And he has, that’s my big thing. He hasn’t played behind the plate that much. They need to get him more reps. We are seeing in real time at the major league level what happens when your catcher, who’s supposed to be your field general, is not productive behind the plate defensively.
Nestor Aparicio 06:51
This isn’t like the old days where we don’t want to start his clock. You know? I mean, what? We live really 10 years of that with leaders and these other guys. I don’t I
Allen McCallum 06:59
don’t believe they can’t have another miss. They can’t have another star prospect come up and hit 110 and be bad, and particularly right now, be as bad as most, as difficult as they’ve had a time with their pitching. To have a kid come up and not be ready to manage a pitching staff is just something they can’t have right now. So I think there are a lot of pieces. I think there are a lot of pieces in this with sambasayo. I think they’re right to wait. I think it would be wrong to start. I think by late August, he needs
Luke Jones 07:27
to be here’s what I would like to see. And I agree with you. I completely agree with you. And as fans, as media, we have enough examples here now to understand and keep reminding ourselves, success at triple A does not equate to success in the major leagues, especially right away. Yeah. So now that that being said, ideally, working from the circumstances they are dealing with here now in late June, knowing that Ali Richmond is going to be out until after the all star break, most likely, assuming it’s not too much longer than that, I think if you’re looking for your ideal way of how this plays out pertaining to the catching position, and Samuel basayo is Adley rutschman. Comes back July 20, somewhere around there, I am doing whatever I can to get Gary Sanchez out of here at the trade deadline, even if I need to kick in a million dollars and I get a couple Dominican lottery ticket prospects, sure, because then, to me, that creates runway to then promote Samuel bisayo At some point in August, which is what I thought was there was their plan. And I kind of thought so too. But I think that then puts him in a in a place where if Adley Russians back, you’re not he’s not in a position where there’s too much pressure to catch him too much. Because I think there’s still long term question as far as what exactly he’s going to be from a defensive standpoint, you know, I think if you’re looking at it ideally, over the next couple of years, he catches two or three times a week. Adley rutschman catches three or four times a week. He plays a little bit of first base. He DH, is plenty, you know, Kobe mayo, dH, first base. And, yeah, you’re hoping, because there are some people that think he’s got upside to be a your Don Alvarez kind of bat. Now, that’s putting a lot on a young 21 you know, not quite 21 years old. So let’s temper our expectations in 25 and 2026 with that kind of talk. But yeah, I’m with you. I think he needs to develop behind the plate. I want to see him not catching seven days a week at Norfolk, because you’ll want to run up into the ground, but he needs to catch very regularly, more regularly than he is. You hope the elbow stays healthy, because that has actually been an issue for him the last year or two, and and that that kind of ties in with not knowing exactly what he looks like defensively long term, right? But I was just looking at some nerdy numbers the other day, his everything about his batted ball profile at Norfolk says this guy should hit and from a pure offensive standpoint, could end up being the best out of these guys could maybe, who knows, right? But it looks really good on paper. Cooper, but I’m with you. Let this guy catch. I think he’s, I don’t think he’s caught 30 total games at triple A just yet. I think he’s, you know, combined last year and this year, he’s like, 2526 27 something like that. So let him catch for another month and a half. Let’s say, and let’s look at this post trade deadline. Gary Sanchez, in my mind again. Move them, pay a pay off a million dollars just to get them out of here. And you have ruchman, and you have bus IO Maverick Hanley can be a bridge if you need a couple more weeks whatever. That’s fine. But I’d like to see basayo Here third week of August at the latest, but at last week of August at the latest, and then give him regular at bats, catching DH a little bit of first base, and let him get whatever the first 50 plate appearances are gonna look like out of his system, because he probably
Nestor Aparicio 10:52
see everything you’re talking about right now. Like if Angelo was alive, none of this could happen, right? So it is a new world after 30 years of one way. Think we’re thinking about it more conventionally now, but, but there is no conventional way to think about this. Is the general manager trying to keep his job, right? If the front office is desperate to sell tickets, and they are, because it’s a mess, you know? How bad do you want to break it up? How bad do you want it to look? Where are you in bringing kids that might not be ready anyway, it’s still going to hit a buck 88 right?
Allen McCallum 11:19
So let’s, let’s look at this. I mean post steroid era, or during steroid era, guys were playing into their 40s and still putting up numbers post steroids with analytics. The move has been, move veterans out earlier and bring up young guys to let them figure it out. But if you look around the league, even the Texas Rangers, who won the World Series Two years ago, Evan Carter, who could not be stopped, Wyatt Langford, Roman Anthony. Roman Anthony in Boston. I mean, guys, young guys, are not coming up and and even looking like major leaguers to the degree they they used to. Jackson Merrill in San Diego. They’re also minors. And
Luke Jones 11:59
sometimes they like. Look at Corbin Carroll, who’s rookie of the year, but a lot of last year looked lost. Now he has figured it out. There’s,
Allen McCallum 12:07
there’s a level of regression that’s happening that I’ve never, I can’t remember seeing across the major leagues. So it’s not just the Orioles, but when you have a team that is built on the idea all our young guys are going to propel us to Shangri La, you feel the effects greater than that, but, but I there’s no question that that they can’t have another can’t miss prospect come up and Miss right now. But they’ve got guys again. Coby mayo, who you’ve got to put them out in the field and say, let’s figure this out. Let’s figure this out. Let’s figure out what you are.
Luke Jones 12:43
And I think he doesn’t, even though he hasn’t shown up in the numbers as much just yet, but the eyeball test, he’s working more counts. He’s not striking out 50% of the time like he did his first 50 plate appearances in the major leagues. And he looks more comfortable. And they’ve even talked about that. He’s talked about it that, you know, I feel a little more, I mean, my biggest pet peeve, and I complain about to Nestor twice, and I’m going to do it a third time now, was those final two games of the angels series. He had a two hit game, and he had an RBI double, and then he said, arguably his two best games as a major leaguer. And I get it, the bar was very low.
Nestor Aparicio 13:16
You believe in Elias or mancellino
Luke Jones 13:19
on that both. It’s more a front office thing. I’m we need to, we need to get out of 1975 and I’m not you guys. I mean, the Earl Weaver book was good, but it’s not that way. And we, yeah, the manager does not have autonomy over the batting order. Sure. I mean, they just don’t. So like, what for me? I looked at that with Kobe mayo, and then he made two starts on the road trip. It’s crazy. And
Nestor Aparicio 13:40
you wonder why Buck can’t be a manager anymore.
Allen McCallum 13:42
Well, I mean, let’s just analytics aside, they have so many left handed bats. They need some right handed bats in the lineup every day. And mayo, if you tell me I’m not going to play Kobe Mayo against Jacob deGrom, okay, fine. I get it. He doesn’t have to play every single day. But most everybody, but everybody else with who is not a three time winner, I want him in the lineup because I want him to, I want him to figure it out, and you don’t figure it out on the bench. And last time
Nestor Aparicio 14:12
I checked this offense, collectively, hasn’t been very good, right? We’re not talking, I got one hit last night. We’re not talking about guys that are barely you know, we’re not talking it was cows or I’ve been dealing them all since a week and a half, but it’s
Luke Jones 14:24
just those are, like, something like that is where I look at this. And I’m just like, what are we doing here? Yeah, like, and that’s me talking. I’m an analytics guy, I’m a nerd, but like, I see something like that, I’m like, There’s a like that feels like a disconnect kind of thing right there. That’s
Allen McCallum 14:39
the act of a team that’s saying we’re trying to get into the playoff race before the by the all star break, and we’re going to play the lineup that statistically gives us the best chance to win and and I understand that, that that’s what’s what the thought process is, but it’s a badge,
Nestor Aparicio 14:55
but when you’re religious with it, with the with the blackjack book, and that’s. The way you’re going to play every hand, because that’s the way sigma Adele thinks about it. That’s the way Elias thinks bad choice.
Luke Jones 15:05
Yeah, well, and I think it’s a bad choice, even from an upside perspective. I mean, like I said, I think it was the previous segment, but I said, you know, a big part of what happens over the second half of the year, and I’m not even talking in terms of, like, oh, trying to win more games. This is more like, get all these young guys going, and I think you’ll win more games as a result. Yes, I think the idea of Kobe Mayo being in the lineup, okay, maybe the next week or two, that might not help you, but I’m thinking that that might help you a heck of a lot more come July, August and September, and especially in this is really what should be in mind, 2026 and beyond. Yes, right? If Kobe Mayo is truly going to be as good as his biggest proponents think he’s going to be, and he’s put up numbers in the minor leagues that suggest
Allen McCallum 15:47
and the road is right in front of you because, because
Luke Jones 15:52
he’s not coming back. And, by the way, play the freaking kid, not to mention Ryan mountcastle, hadn’t hit worth a you know what over the last year. What
Nestor Aparicio 15:59
would the answer be, if you really as an old school, legitimate media guy, if I could sit in the office and say to manzalino, because I knew him, what? What happened there? What were you thinking there? Because Johnny Oates, and you remember Johnny, right? I mean, Johnny hated me in 1992 and 93 because all of my questions were questions, literally in the little manager’s room there, like, Johnny, why did you have that reliever? And Johnny was like, you don’t ask me questions. Like, you know, like, early on, it’s like, can you not ask them what they see,
Luke Jones 16:32
you know, it’s asked and what is what is said. But it doesn’t mean they give you an answer that’s, you know, tangible to the point where you’re what
Nestor Aparicio 16:42
are they saying behind closed doors, after Mayo gets three hits in two days, and they and they, they bench you. They right. Man, Selena was asked about it was, I think it was at the end of the road trip. I’m just trying to get to their rationale beyond that’s what the book says, that that’s easy for me to say, that if that’s the answer, that’s the answer, I
Luke Jones 16:57
will say, in fairness to them. Now, I’m not saying I agree with this, but I think there’s a thought process that they try to acclimate and ease guys into it. I think you’ve seen that very clearly with how just about everyone, like even gunner Henderson, when you go back to late 22 when he had his cup of coffee, and early in 23 they’ve all kind of started out just playing their platoon side, right? So the guys that were right handed hitters, they kind of picked their spots. Maybe they face a few righties here and there, but they were mainly playing against lefties. That’s why, when Jordan Westberg was caught up, Adam Frazier continued to play. Now, I would say that with kind of was ridiculous, because Adam Frazier didn’t hit the second half at all right, of 2023 but that’s kind of been the progression you’ve seen with these guys, Jackson holiday, until very, very recently. You know, the last month, month and a half, was hardly ever playing against left handed pitching. So I think in their mind, because I think it’s very clear they don’t, they don’t believe in reverse splits. They think that that statistical noise. So
Nestor Aparicio 18:02
you almost always see, now, that’s a basis, right? I mean, you saying that really resets my mind about a lot of things. No, I just, I think, like say that again, they don’t believe, I don’t think they believe in reverse, reverse splits in many cases. So in other words, they’re never going to play a righty against the lefty if they have an option, that’s the reason lauriano is here, is to play against left handers right literally. That’s why he’s
Allen McCallum 18:25
accepted guys got hurt, and he’s actually been pretty good against right hand. Right
Nestor Aparicio 18:30
hand, if you are a reverse splits guy, and you’re Harold Baines at the end of his career and hitting left handed
Allen McCallum 18:37
so you say that, but Harold Baines, they didn’t play Harold Baines gets left handed fish. Was so funny because he was in my head right before he said that Harold Baines, and I think it’s because he had his knee injuries. Eventually, they just said, leave alone against left Harold Baines could hit off of
Luke Jones 18:51
anybody. My dad used to joke, Harold Baines, his knees are so bad. He could hit out of a wheelchair. My dad loved to say that.
Allen McCallum 18:56
I used to say, Harold Baines could be retired for 10 years. You call him up, he gets on a plane, lands in the winter somewhere, but the idea they wouldn’t play him
Nestor Aparicio 19:11
against the left, and if they don’t believe
Allen McCallum 19:13
it, fundamentally don’t believe in that. And again, okay, so I respect analytics. I respect, and by
Luke Jones 19:21
the way, I’m not saying I agree. I’m saying to me, we have an overwhelming body of work now of a few years that shows, even if it’s a lefty, that left handers are hitting better against them in that year, with a few exceptions, because a lot of times, if you do look year to year, it is statistically noisy. You’ll see a guy’s a reverse split sky one year the next year. It’s the exact but if,
Allen McCallum 19:44
but if that’s their thought process. Here’s the reality. They’ve got a bunch of left handed guys who can’t pitching no questions, right? So
Luke Jones 19:50
everyone can hit.
Nestor Aparicio 19:54
That’s actually I want to get Izzy in here in a minute. So I’m gonna leave the parting shot for you guys. Rutchman. Let’s just end with ruchman. With the two of you Allen and Luke, are here. Go
Allen McCallum 20:03
ahead, before Richmond, I would say this, I would like to see them move gunner back to the leadoff spot, because it seems to me that he’s done his best in that spot, free and easy. I’d like to see if that gets him going. Maybe the pressure of driving and runs doesn’t
Luke Jones 20:17
work. I think gunner has hit much better over the last month or so, but the power without power, yeah, but he started, but he’s hitting lefties. Finally, again, like a little bit, because he wasn’t hitting lefties at
Allen McCallum 20:27
all. I don’t know about Adley rutchman. He’s obviously, they’ve got, he’s got to figure out he was, he was coming along, was, it’s like he was being rebuilt over the last he had kind of dumped
Luke Jones 20:36
the toe tap and kind of just having a more traditional step.
Allen McCallum 20:40
I think Adley is a guy that spends a lot of time in his head. That’s the only thing I can, I can figure and I would like to see him just worry about getting on base. I think, when I think, when a guy is completely collapsed like that, that is a hitter, not a power hitter, nothing, but a hitter. You just say, I want you to get on base. I don’t care how you do it. I don’t care if you walk. I don’t care if you hit a single. I don’t care if you hit bloop it over the third don’t make it, get on base. And I think guys that are natural hitters, and I’m not certain that Adley is, but that’s what he was billed as. Yeah, I think when, when they go back to the basics and just work on that, that’s where they start to find themselves again. Is that going to work? I don’t know. That’s what I tell him to do.
Luke Jones 21:23
I would say this, and I agree with that. I think if you look at where this started with Adley rutschman, I think you go back to the beginning of last year, he hit for way more power. The first half of the last of last year, he became much more pull. I wouldn’t say he was pull heavy, but pull heavier than he had been before hitting the ball poolside, in the air more. It worked out great for about two and a half months. I actually, I remember saying this to Alan on the phone. I’m going to use the same who’s taking pitches to you know what I compared it to. I compared it to the movie Major League Two Willie Mays Hayes in spring training. Came in wanting to be a power hitter. He hit the, you know what, out of the ball in spring training, and was hitting home runs. And everyone’s like, Oh my gosh. Willie Mays Hayes, year two, he’s gonna be even better. And then the regular season came and it started to falter. Now, Adley rutschman, the numbers looked home. The power numbers looked great through the end of June. Was there some kind of issue? He got hit on the hand? I think that was maybe part of it. But I do think he fundamentally changed his approach, because he started walking way less the first half of last year, and that was another telltale sign he got away from it, who he was. And this, this goes perfectly with what Alan was just saying. And I think it just kind of snowballed or deteriorated, however you want to describe it from there, and I think he’s just really struggled to get back to that. And I do think the mental part of it, I do think when you have two swings as a switch hitter, I think that absolutely is a factor. Does that mean he should abandon once? Not necessarily, but I do think that complicates things. And oh yeah, you’re a catcher, and you’re handling work behind the plate and meetings with pitchers, and you’ve had a lot of turnover with so, as we’ve talked about, and you’re losing. This speaks to multiple variables at work here, but I agree, he never
Nestor Aparicio 23:13
lost. That was the kind of charming.
Allen McCallum 23:15
I also think that at catchers need days off. This is why I would not take him tickets. Catchers are number one. Was a one, one catcher, yeah, need days off,
Luke Jones 23:24
and no more of those. And Adley rutschman now like, let’s
Allen McCallum 23:29
let’s in the DH, every time he’s not behind the plate. Thing, I know he hits better as a DH,
Luke Jones 23:34
but I don’t think that’s been the case this year, though,
Allen McCallum 23:37
physical and mental rest is necessary, particularly for a catcher. All right.
Nestor Aparicio 23:41
Look. This is Izzy patoki, your councilman from the second district. Look at that hat. Look at that hat. Great hat. That hat screams. You
Allen McCallum 23:47
swear to Washington Nationals,
Nestor Aparicio 23:51
we’re at readers. We’re out here in in two as they would say, We’re Reisterstown registers down, according to Gary Thorne. It’s all brought to you by friends at the Maryland lottery at the Back to the Future scratch offs. We’re having a great day here. There’s crabs, there’s crab cakes, there’s salads, there’s soups, there’s hoop tea. They got all sorts of stuff going on out here. It is the Maryland crab cake tour. We will be on the eighth in the morning before it gets too hot at deepest Qualis in Canton, and then on the 10th, we’ll be indoors at Costa stemonium, the new location, christening it, although it’s not my first crab cake tour stop in that space that is on the 10th of July. Luke beat Max pizza, Dan and Wildwood all week for the Fourth of July, I did a big piece on the heritage fair coming back to life in Dundalk. So all you Dundalk folks, and I also, before I let my baseball guys go, have you ever seen me as excited as I was, to have Fred Lynn on the show this week. I mean, be honest,
Allen McCallum 24:42
I haven’t watched it yet, so I’m excited to see it.
Nestor Aparicio 24:45
He was phenomenal, man, like he was great. Do you know much I love Fred Lynn?
Luke Jones 24:50
I mean, knowing what era you grow grew up in,
Nestor Aparicio 24:54
Fred Lynn was my first favorite baseball player. I told him that I was seven years old. He wore my cousin’s shirt.
Luke Jones 25:00
He would have been a slam dunk, Hall of Famer, if not for injuries. I mean, let’s, let’s
Nestor Aparicio 25:03
call it to go look at his numbers from 75 to 81 it’s like crazy. Whoo, his 79 season. Whoo, all right. Fred Lynn is on W, n, s, t this week. Izzy Patoka is waiting in line 27 years to get on the program. I’m gonna bring him in. He’s, we’re gonna talk about the northwest side of town. We’re gonna talk about politics, talk about politics, talk about the community, talk about Reisterstown. I’m looking forward to it. I am Nestor. We are wnst. Am 1570 Towson, Baltimore. We’re readers in Reisterstown eating crab cakes. It’s what we do. You.
