You’re aware of the Cleveland Browns drama and the loss of DeShaun Watson and 1-6 team on the field but the bigger circus with billionaire owner Jimmy Haslam is trying to get a dome built in a municipality where all of the politicians dislike him as much as the fans. Cleveland reporter Daryl Ruiter gives Nestor a primer on the Browns awfulness amidst stadium drama in Northeast Ohio.
SUMMARY KEYWORDS
Browns stadium, Deshaun Watson, Guardians playoffs, Progressive Field, Brook Park, political resistance, Cleveland sports, Ravens game, NFL draft, stadium renovation, fan disappointment, Browns offense, Watson injury, Browns future, stadium funding
SPEAKERS
Nestor Aparicio, Daryl Ruiter
Nestor Aparicio 00:00
Uh, welcome home. We are W, N, S, T, am 1570 Towson, Baltimore and Baltimore positive. Uh, possibly short week. This week, Lamar is on top of the world. They beat Tampa Bay trying to figure out. Marlon Humphrey, my man, Luke Jones, will be back and forth. Uh, over into Owings Mills. I will be in Owings Mills this week. Finally, I have made my return to Owings Mills. Will be it mama half shell on Friday afternoon. Uh, giving away Raven. Scratch offs, come on by. Have an oyster with us. Um, my man fin going to be there. It’s all brought to our friends at Liberty, pure solutions, 100 clean water is the way to make the well water clean water. They also do a lot of plumbing. Our friends at curio wellness and far and daughter, of course, sponsoring our 26th anniversary around here, and our oyster tour, as well as the crab cake tour, brought to you by Jiffy Lube multi care. This guy has covered a lot of bad football, some better baseball, and certainly some basketball. He’s one of our defending champions. He is right or wrong fan. He’s done the sports for about a quarter century out in the Cleveland area. He has been all over the stadium situation out there, which has been as big a story there as the Deshaun Watson story, and who’s going to be quarterback and who’s not. And Darryl writer, I I thought of you and all of my Cleveland friends the last couple of weeks as I watch baseball from what I lovingly call the Jake. She’s grown up so much, but just given the Yankees hell and that game three was amazing and great Cleveland sports moment that came up short, but it did make me go to the internet and look at the Cleveland home jersey of the great Ricky Vaughn, the 99 there was a guy in game five was wearing that jersey. And I’m like, I would wear that jersey. And I kept saying to my wife, on the heater, Ricky on the heater. And I, you know, I wanted it for all of you. And I know you came up a little short man, you think you didn’t think we wanted the Yankees to win around here. But it is, you know, Cleveland, Baltimore football week here and bad things have happened. I figured I’ll call writer and see how the hell he’s doing. How are you everything? Okay?
Daryl Ruiter 02:06
I’m fine. I can’t say the same for the Cleveland Browns, or their fans or guardians fans right now, who are a little disappointed, but honestly, they shouldn’t be. You’re right. I mean, it was a great season. Nobody picked the guardians to win the division, let alone be in the American League Championship Series. It was fun busting your coconuts there on Facebook as you were making fun of them not getting it done. And I was just kind of like, Yeah, how’d them Orioles do this year? How was it watching from the couch, watching the Guardians, and not the Orioles and in the in the postseason, winning games. But, you know,
Nestor Aparicio 02:43
I had a lot of sports hell, once we get to be this age. I went through this Munch bishop, and I met this week, and my old pal, Bernard bikini and all the art modell stuff that you feel from the angst of your childhood, as I have, or say, angst, angelos, angst, right that we’re trying to get over here. The the commanders came up here, they have a prayer now, because they don’t have bad ownership, bad ownership, but get you blown up. I don’t know how the Browns can possibly fix the situation there, right? Like, I mean, at least with the Guardians you have, like, they’ve been pretty good the last 30 years, you see the difference between well run and not well run. You’ve had all that with Dick Cavaliers a couple of times too, right?
Daryl Ruiter 03:21
Yeah, and, and the challenge for the Guardians now is the fans showed up to the ballpark this year is that the ballpark got a a good 430 plus million dollar makeover that is continuing this off season. In fact, if there was anyone disappointed that the Guardians made the playoffs and and won their division series and got to the ALCS. It’s the contractors, because they have a lot of work that they have to do before opening day 2025 to get that ballpark basically completed. They’re eventually it’s actually going to take one more off season next year, but they’re gradually replacing all the seats in the ballpark. They’re repairing the concrete and putting epoxy on it and changing out the green seats to blue seats, so it’s going to have its own, you know, personality, if you will. It’s going to have team colors in it instead of the the green seats that were there before. But all the service level is being gutted as we speak, new club houses, new club areas for both the team as well as fans and whatnot. Behind home plate is going to look completely different next year. Those dugout suites are going to go away, and it’s going to, I think, have a little bit of a Dodger Stadium feel. You know, that’s
Nestor Aparicio 04:39
amazing, because you were the first place that had that in 95 I was out there with the Albert Bell, with Hannah storm. I was in the dugout when that, when the whole altercation happened that night. I was there, and it was such a brand new, beautiful place. It was cold at it snowed during the World Series. I have my old pictures and all that, but I remember, even when Camden Yards was new and cushy, i. I thought your ballpark had some more grown up, cool ish kind of things. You always had somebody standing there drinking a beer behind home plate. You know, that’s like what the Cowboys experience is now. In football, high fiving the players as they’re coming off the field and whatnot. That Stadium was the first one to sort of do that 30 years ago. And it is amazing in your state and city that it was tortured by art modell. And are we going to have a baseball team? We’re going to have a basketball team? How are we going to get an arena? We’re going to steal from Richfield? Like all the things that your community’s gone through, we’ve gone through it here, and we just give the money away. Now, after you lose the Colts, after you lose the browns, it’s so easy for Dolans and and Haslams to just get money, because we need these stadiums to keep the teams, and we’re doing it here with the baseball team, football team at the same thing, football team closed down last off season, you know, dusting it all. And what they’ve really done here is just trying to get more money out of rich people. I mean, they haven’t really built the thing for fans, really?
Daryl Ruiter 06:02
Yeah, it’s all about the clubs and the suites and the thing. And, you know, that’s part of the reason, you know, progressive field has the look it has, is because the, it was one of the ballparks that was built using sweet money, you know, that was a funding mechanism. So dugout suites, they had a, you know, the three layers of loges on the third base side and all that, which, you know, over the years, those have been combined now because they’re just they’re not in demand like they used to be. But, yeah, that big
Nestor Aparicio 06:31
tarp up over what used to be this beautiful glass club section where they wanted to serve you a state, yeah. So
Daryl Ruiter 06:39
the reason why that’s there is because that’s under construction. They’re redoing all of that, and so they put the tarp up there just to kind of, it
Nestor Aparicio 06:48
wasn’t ready for the World Series. It would have been lost revenue. Oh
Daryl Ruiter 06:51
no, no. That’s that will be that is supposed to open next year by opening day as well. And it’s basically that terrorist club thing, but it’s reimagined. It’s going to be a more of an outdoor experience, version of the terrorist club and things like that. You know, they put in, you know, they tore out the the risers in right field and then down the left field line there, and they put in those party deck things with the awnings on them and that. But, yeah, I mean, it’s a significant makeover. The arena got a makeover a couple of years ago, which got us the, I think was the 2022 NBA All Star game. So the Cavaliers and the guardians will both be taken care of for the next 15 to 20 years or so, and now the big fight that is about to commence. It now that the Browns have made their decision. They don’t want to renovate the existing stadium. They want to build a dome next to the airport in Brook Park. And all the politicians here are saying they’re not going to help the Browns out. They have no interest the county. The county’s fighting the browns on it right now. The mayor of Cleveland be honest with you, it really didn’t care if the Browns left the city limits because he wants that lakefront property, because they’re trying to do a lakefront project too. But it’s just interesting listening to the politicians do what politicians do, and that’s lie through their teeth. And you know, they we had a big West six tailgate scene that has been shut down because the city refused to send law enforcement to protect from people interfering in that and then once they shut the tailgate down. Then last week, or for the lot, you know, last week’s home game, they sent a ton of police presence over there to make it look like the tailgate was causing all the problems. And it’s just, it’s shady stuff like that. You know, you can’t cry for small business when you’re doing shady stuff like that. So a lot of its lip service, but yeah, the county doesn’t want to support the project. So
Nestor Aparicio 08:45
hassles have been, have been, you know, unpopular. And clearly, signing this quarterback and the outcome has been, from a fan perspective, unpopular, but just this is a disaster right now when you’re trying to get a stadium built too,
Daryl Ruiter 09:00
yeah. I mean, I mean, you know, and the plans are beautiful, you know, they want to build a complex next to it as well to help service the airport. Cleveland Airport’s supposed to get a $3 billion renovation and makeover, rebuild, whatever you want to call it. It’s going to be beautiful when it’s done, it’ll be a state of the art airport. It’s often voted one of the worst airports in the country. So they’re really going to invest to get that fixed up. You know, Dan Gilbert, who owns the Cavaliers, his bedrock company right now, they’re building $100 million practice facility. They just broke ground on it last week on the river banks of the Cuyahoga River, down right below where the arena is right now, and his company is working on a $3.5 billion development all along that riverfront to
Nestor Aparicio 09:48
Mr. Detroit, right immediately does right? Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Daryl Ruiter 09:52
And so there’s a lot of really great stuff about to happen in Cleveland, but the Browns are kind of taking center stage with this process. Project in Brook park that they finally decided that they want to do, and now they’re getting all kinds of political resistance. And we’ll, we’ll see what that ends up being. But you know, the Browns don’t want to be on the lakefront anymore. You can’t get to the stadium. It’s the stadium’s in bad shape. It’s a billion two just to fix it up and make it 15 another fifteen years, there’s talk about closing the Lakefront Airport here in Cleveland, the city then was like, hey, what if we renovate your stadium, close the airport, and you build the new stadium on the old airport site. And the Browns are like, yeah, that’s going to be like, instead $2.4 billion billion dollars that you’re clutching your pearls, it’s going to cost to build the Doman Brook Park multiply by three or four, and that’s what that whole project will cost. So how you going to pay for that? If you don’t want to pay for, you know, this particular project? So again, a lot of it’s a lip service from the politicians right now. So it’s going to take some time for this thing to shake out. But the goal for the Browns is to open the doors in August of 2029 which will let them, you know what’s going to happen. Roger Goodell is going to dangle the Super Bowl. I mean, Jacksonville is getting a second Super Bowl because of their renovation they’re doing in Jacksonville. They’re putting a roof over that stadium. So the NFL has promised Jacksonville the Super Bowl there. So Goodell is definitely going to promise Cleveland the Super Bowl at some point the NFL draft is going to come back to Cleveland, because we got short changed during the COVID year in 2021 be able to compete for the Big 10 championship game, college football playoff games, college football national championship game, men’s final four, you know, because you’ll have the dome in that so there’s all these events that Cleveland isn’t even in the conversation for by dumping a billion Two into the existing stadium. Well, if you pay twice the price now, you have all these other events that you can get. And for me, I think that that’s a you know, that that’s that’s a pretty wise investment, considering you look at the arena and all of the you know, all of the the money that has been generated from that arena, with all the events that you know do come to Cleveland because of it. So imagine what we can do with an indoor dome that seats 68,000 people. Darryl,
Nestor Aparicio 12:07
I’m celebrating 26 years here, so we’re bragging on that and eat 26 oyster. But I’ve been on the air for 33 years, and by the time the stadium got here, I will use the name and not have you cough, but David Modell and I were dear friends, exactly. David never lied to me. You know, in the general sense, like I have very few people in life that never lied to me.
Daryl Ruiter 12:28
By the way, you would be one of very few people that David Modell never lied to. Okay, that’s
Nestor Aparicio 12:32
fair. Fair enough. You know, I, I don’t believe that, but nonetheless, David and I spent a lot of time together, and whenever I would bring up the stadium early in our relationship, this is when he’s your David Modell and arts kicking the dogs, and they’re just trying to figure out the name I’m talking about, when they were planning the stadium, literally in that period of time, which, by the way,
Daryl Ruiter 12:54
the great stadium you really did. David came
Nestor Aparicio 12:56
into my I have the tapes of it. I know I have the tapes a phantom when he died a couple years ago, and I beat him up pretty good first time in saying, You got to build a dome. Dude. How are we going to get Billy Joel? How are we going to get Jay Z how are we going to get a Super Bowl? How are we going to get a Final Four? Build a dome. Build a dome. And David’s, you know, the cigar. We’re never gonna have a dome here. They didn’t. But all these years later, now you think it’s a good idea, because of all the reasons that I thought 30 years ago it was a good idea. You know, the stadia here, now that I’m old and been been thrown out, literally as a media member, by their design, like literally who they are, and the people that have owned it, this Angelos group, just awful people for 30 years, have added and the Raven situation, which you didn’t like art. I haven’t really come to grips with Steve Bucha being a good human, maybe a good football owner, but not a community citizen guy at all. I’ve been live here like all the things he thought 20 years ago when he invested. He’s not a part of that. It’s more of a corporately run. Sashi Brown’s running it. Alright? You want to Cough. Cough on that. How about that? Darryl, I’m
14:01
not, I’m not going to cough. I’m
Nestor Aparicio 14:03
going to laugh. Okay, fair enough, right? So he’s running it. That’s how serious it is here. Hey,
Daryl Ruiter 14:08
I was glad he’s not picking your football players. Okay?
Nestor Aparicio 14:11
But, and we’ll talk about the Sean Watson in a minute, and we’ll talk about Lamar, which, you know, this is second generation of nose pressed up to the glass with Ed Reed and Ray Lewis, that, you know, we’ve had something from a winning perspective, but I’m, I’m being really honest with your dome situation, and I’ve been at your football stadium, and I know all the traffic probably no, I spent a lot of time in Cleveland, right? I think about our stadium, the billion two we just gave this particular brand of billionaire. We thought we were giving it to Angelo’s. Turns out we’re giving it to Rubenstein. Eric Getty is going to be the guy that gets all the money out, because he’s going to be the eventual owner the baseball team on the football side. Pashadi got his money, came in. He’s making, bought it for 600 million, going to sell it for six or 8 billion by the time it’s all over with. But through all of this, the investment that the people make in this, whether it’s the Jake. That’s now than progressive, or whether it’s the gun that’s now, whatever you’re calling it, and not knowing LeBron was going to be there and bring your roses and bring your championships, it really is amazing how some communities come together to do this on behalf of some teams. And like you’re saying right now, the Browns are toxic to the politicians there right now here our mayor and our governor, we’re all Orioles because the teams are good, right? But nobody wanted to hug and play snuggie with Angelo’s or Dan Snyder or with art modell 30 years ago in your case, right? Yeah. And
Daryl Ruiter 15:32
you know, the timing couldn’t be worse. So you know, the expectation was the Browns were going to be a contender. Remember, they were coming off an 11, 511, and six season. Last year, they made the playoffs. You know Joe Flacco, who is obviously like Baltimore, second son, came in and saved the season. He’s now, you know, did very well going over to Indianapolis, and he’s played very well for the Colts, filling in for Anthony Richardson in his time there. But you know, really miss Joe Flacco here in Cleveland right now, that’s for sure, because this is by far one of the worst offenses that I have ever seen, and that and I covered one in 15 and oh and 16 Cleveland Brown teams. But it’s that bad. I mean, they’re struggling to score 14, 1516, points per game. Their high is 18. They haven’t scored more than 18 points in a single game, and they’ve only done that once. So should be a fairly ugly blood bath for the Ravens coming to Cleveland off a short week. That might be the only thing that could save the Browns is the fact that, you know, Baltimore had to go on the road to Tampa Bay. And you know, obviously they won that game Monday night, rather handily against Baker Mayfield and company. But the Browns offense is laughable. The defense is pretty good, but the Browns offense is it’s a joke. It really is. And don’t know who the quarterback is going to be this week because Dorian Thompson, Robinson’s got a middle finger injury. They just added Bailey zappy, excuse me, off the Kansas City Chiefs practice squad. They did that on Tuesday. You’ve got Jameis Winston, who was the backup quarterback, but last week, ironically, was dropped to the number three quarterback, and that got everyone’s attention. Lo and behold, Deshawn gets hurt. It blows out his Achilles. His season is over. DTR comes in. The offense is still hot garbage. He hurts his finger, goes out. Jameis comes in while they, you know, scored a touchdown and a two point conversion late when the game was already decided, or whatnot. But, yeah, I mean, this offense is just God awful to watch. I mean, give me a spoon. Let me scoot my eyeballs out. It is that disgusting. They are ranked 32nd in just about every me. They’re ranked 32nd and point scored, total offense, third down conversions, because they’re always in third and long. They’re just they’re awful. They really are Nestor. So I didn’t get that
Nestor Aparicio 17:58
bad Daryl. Daryl writers here, right and wrong. Fan, you can follow him out in Cleveland. I because we could talk stadium, we could talk guardians, a million things. I could talk to you, but this week us playing, and how Lamar has looked and where this thing is from, Owen two, a couple of weeks ago, one long ago that that’s it. Was Owen two, and they had the unbury from that. And five weeks in there, the toast of the town. Every time I’ve had you on, there’s been a dipstick I’ve stuck in on where you are on the Deshaun Watson thing, aside from transgressions, you’ve had to report on and break stories on out in Cleveland and then see the locker room. But you were of the mindset of, he can play, you know, he’s a talented quarterback, if they can put him in a room and bubble wrap him and have him play football and concentrate on football and be helpful in doing that, you believed he could play a little bit. I don’t know that we were at that belief point anymore, right? Yeah, oh
Daryl Ruiter 18:52
no, I that. You know, it was basically me talking myself into understanding why the Browns did what they did. But no, he can’t play. He’s terrible. Can’t play. He’s horrible. I mean, it just like, I think there’s a chance he played his last down for the Cleveland Browns. In some respects, they may have to go with a 52 man roster for two years, even though his contract is guaranteed. But you know, less than 64% completion percentage this season, five touchdowns, three interceptions this season, he hadn’t thrown for 200 yards in a single game this season. No, he can’t play anymore. He doesn’t have it. And so when you have settled more lawsuits than you have been responsible for touchdowns in your career with the browns, or in games played with the browns, that’s a big problem, and the organization asked their fans to look the other way for the off the field accusations and transgressions. And a lot of fans did. There is a segment of fans that did not, and that, you know, we’re telling me. Hey, I’m done with the browns. I’m not buying another ticket, not buying another jersey. I’m done with the team. I’m so disgusted by the trade that they would bring this man into this community, etc, etc. But let’s be honest about it. Nestor is we know in the NFL, your your success, your talent, breeds the tolerance amongst fans as well as the organization when it comes to off the field misdeeds. You with the Ravens have seen various players over the years have their issues off the field, but as long as the Ravens were winning and those players were playing well, it was easier to turn and look the other way when those situations would pop up. And so here in Cleveland, it’s been a combination of you asked the fan base to compromise their moral high ground, to root for this guy and still root for the team. Well, the trade off was supposed to be he was the missing link to get the Browns to a Super Bowl, or at least to compete for a Super Bowl, and he was going to come here and win, and he was going to play well. Well, he’s done none of that Nestor, none of it, let alone been available. Now, injuries aren’t his fault, of course, last year, he got hurt against the ravens, or at least we think he got hurt against the Ravens when he suffered that broken, gloried bone. But this is the third straight year that he’s been with the Browns where he will not play a half a season. For them, not even a half a season. He played six games his first year because of the 11 game suspension settlement with the league, he played six he missed the final eight games last year. He missed three more. So yeah, six games he played last year as well due to injury. And now this year he he played. He appeared in seven games, and he’s going to miss the rest of the season due to injury. So it just might be high time for the Cleveland Browns to just bite the bullet on the remaining two years and 100 and or no 90s. I’m trying to do the math in my head, 90s collected
Nestor Aparicio 21:50
well in excess of 150 million. Correct? No, it’s three
Daryl Ruiter 21:54
times 46 so he’s around 100 and like 38 something like that. 130 8 million. He’s taken home. He’s owed now $92 million over for 2025, and 2026
Nestor Aparicio 22:09
you’ve done the math on the cap. What would what Brown’s roster look like next year?
Daryl Ruiter 22:14
I mean, the cap hit next year’s almost $80 million and the following year it’s almost $80 million so they have to take, they have, they’re going to have to, have to do the restructure and all that kind of stuff. So there is no, there is no eject button here for the Cleveland Browns. I mean, they, they, they bought the farm, and so they got to eat the rotten vegetables that are remaining and that. And that’s the the way I look at this to Sean Watson situation, and I they’ve already traded Amari Cooper to the Buffalo Bills. And my anticipation is at some points, area Smith will get traded. You’ll see some other pieces and parts on the final year their contracts get traded out of here, because the Browns have to now start collecting draft picks. As we have this discussion going into week eight, the Browns currently hold the number two pick in the NFL Draft, behind the New England Patriots, and that’s where we’re at. We are near the end of October Nestor, and we are back to talking draft in Cleveland, Ohio. Can’t you feel the excitement in my voice?
Nestor Aparicio 23:08
They would never tank to get the number one pick, would they? No,
Daryl Ruiter 23:11
no, they’re just that. No. They just naturally terrible. That’s, you know that. Now, back in 2016 and 2017 they made themselves naturally terrible. But this year, no, I mean, look, this is a team that came back basically whole. They added Jerry Judy in the off season. They added six members of a rookie class to the roster. You know, the Ronnie Hickman was added to the linebacker room like it was pretty much the same football team that went 11 and five minus Joe Flacco, and here we are. They’re coming into week eight against the Ravens one and six in the basement of the AFC north, where they have resided since, well, since the division was constituted. I was hoping the
Nestor Aparicio 23:56
Flacco be more glib in that Manning cast the other than I put it on for a little while, and then I had to go back to go back to Bucha Aikman because the game was too like in the balance, I was trying to pay attention to the game down riders here, he’s out in Cleveland dealing with all this, I guess last thing for you on the residue of all of this and what it means over the next six or eight weeks, or whatever he means this week for the football team, at least you don’t have Sashi brown picking the players. You know what I mean, like it at the end of the day, right? I mean, they’re, they’re going to blow this up and start all over again. I don’t know what it means for Stefanski, but you’ve seen this. So, I mean, what are we 810, administrations into this, the new Browns over 25 years? Well,
Daryl Ruiter 24:33
this is the most consistent stability that they have had under the Haslam ownership group. I mean, they had just given Kevin Stefanski and Andrew Berry, who’s the Executive Vice President and General Manager. They just gave them contract extensions to reward them for two playoff seasons in their first four years. But this obviously we’re we are back to square one now, where this is going to have to be another rebuild. They’re not nearly as close as we the ones
Nestor Aparicio 24:59
that’s. Signed on for Deshaun Watson, right? Like they weren’t meeting. No, yes, they are, yeah, well, but then they have to eat the 80 million and play without it or go get a new job, right? I mean, and getting a new job is like they’re signed so that the whole thing’s just an issue, dude, like, it’s how not to run a franchise. Like, literally, it’s how not to
Daryl Ruiter 25:19
run a franchise. They, made the Deshaun Watson trade out of desperation. And you know what happens when you make moves based on emotion and desperation, they usually go very, very badly. And there are those that would say that the Cleveland Browns are getting their comeuppance, that this, you know, this is well deserved. I’m not one of them. But there are people that say, Hey, Karma is a you know what? And this is what the Browns deserve by for making that trade and bringing that character of a person into the organization in the community. So they’re jurors.
Nestor Aparicio 25:51
Proved to them a couple weeks ago, he’s writing checks to make sure he gets his paycheck. Right, literally, right. Who? Watson? He
Daryl Ruiter 25:58
had a scandal eight, six weeks ago, right? He just signed a yeah, he just settled the most recent lawsuit, which basically alleged he raped a woman. Now, from a legal standpoint, it was called sexual assault and battery in the lawsuit, but the narrative of allegations in the lawsuit described a rape, so you know, and I reported on that. In fact, I didn’t even parse the allegations. I just copied and pasted the six paragraphs within the lawsuit and said, Hey, this is the unedited version of what is alleged to have taken place back in October of 2020, and the NFL is right now they’re investigating that. But I can tell you this, Nestor, I’m even though the settlement, I spoke to the lawyers involved in this, both for the plaintiff, as well as Watson’s attorney, both told me the settlement is confidential, but I get, I can all but guarantee you part of that settlement is you’re not going to cooperate with the NFL when they come knocking on your door, and now it doesn’t even matter, because, well, he’s not even available to play.
Nestor Aparicio 27:04
Well, he’s cashed a lot of money. He’s about to cash a whole lot more. Darrell Ryder and I are just spending money on sports, trying to have fun. He’s out in Cleveland on the backside of the Guardians, and we look, we’re all watching the Dodgers and the Yankees at this point, and the Ravens are going to come into Cleveland this weekend play a little bit of football. Luke’s going to be out knowing spells back forth. Brought to our friends at Jiffy Lube are going to be doing our our Maryland crab cake tour on Friday at mama’s on the half shell in Owings Mills, with my dude. Finn, looking forward to that as well. We’ll have the Raven scratch offs to give away from the Maryland lottery. Darryl, I always appreciate visiting with you, man, like your wealth of information. Real Cleveland. Guy, always in the know, calling like, like, you see it, the stadium thing is really the big picture story there, I think, even bigger than how the Browns are going to because they’re going to stink this year. You know that, but the stadium things more permanent. And that’s a that’s a big, big political firestorm out
Daryl Ruiter 27:54
there. Yeah, it’s going to be and it’s just begun, at least now the team has made the decision about what they want to do. And so now the, you know, the political posturing over that project that’s proposed in Brook Park will will take place, and we’ll, we’ll see how that shakes out. It’s probably going to be at least a year or so of back and forth with the politicians to get a plan in place to get the browns, you know, in a new stadium come the 2029 football season. Well, if there’s
Nestor Aparicio 28:26
any evidence that I was ever at the Crazy Horse in Brook Park, I was not, and the AI is not real, and none of it happened. Well,
Daryl Ruiter 28:35
the Crazy Horse, and actually, no, the Crazy Horse, I think, is the last lone standing establishment on Brook Park Road. Yeah, yeah. So that, oh, wow, I
Nestor Aparicio 28:46
didn’t make that up. Memories and gales are gone. So
Daryl Ruiter 28:49
for your listeners, what Nestor is referring to, that area that he’s
Nestor Aparicio 28:54
referring to 90s? Well, it used to be the big Ford plant right there, yeah.
Daryl Ruiter 28:59
Well, well, that’s where the stadium is going to go. Is the Ford plant. But down the street from the Ford plant was the adult entertainment district in Cleveland. Well, the brook Park mayor of years past has, sir since, gotten all those business, all those businesses, with the exception of two, shut down and replaced by car dealerships. So now Brooke Park Road, instead of being the adult entertainment district of Cleveland. It’s one of those, what do they call those auto Mart, auto auto street or whatever? Yes, yeah, yeah. So one of those car dealer districts or whatever. So sorry, but yes, I do believe that the Crazy Horse is is still standing, and this weekend, in your trip to Cleveland, you can stop by and in pay Sugar and Spice your your compliments. Listen,
Nestor Aparicio 29:48
you have great dining experiences there. You have great chefs like Michael Simon. You have great history there. Michael Stanley, rock and roll, great comedy. Drew, Drew Carey, just all you know, all the things you. Have, but in Baltimore, you think of crab cakes. There’s another thing here called pit beef. I don’t know if you’re familiar with this. Write this down. Pit beef in Baltimore is like a thing, okay? It’s a it’s a guy, fierce, a thing. All right, we only do it here. It’s only done one way. It’s only really done one way. No disrespect to cost us, or any of my sponsors that serve a pit beef sandwich. There’s a place called chaps, and it happens to be in a very similar parking lot to the brook Park, Crazy Horse experience. So we’re, you know, people always say Cleveland and Baltimore, we’re a lot more similar than you think. But I’m still not eating that ballpark mustard. I’m telling you, I’m not eating it. Darrell Ryder is here. He is out in Cleveland. I am Nestor. We are getting ready for browns and ravens. We like to have fun around here. Always good to see you. Darrell, I’m Nestor with W, N, S, D, A, M, 1570 task in Baltimore, and we never stopped talking Baltimore positive and Cleveland mustard. Bit be sandwiches and stuff. Nobody else talks about you.
