Another week, another terrible fumble by future Hall of Famer Derrick Henry and another Ravens loss in September. Our defending football champion Dennis Koulatsos returns to discuss the many problems of the Baltimore Ravens with Nestor after the 38-30 loss to the Detroit Lions on Monday Night Football.
Nestor Aparicio and Dennis Koulatsos discussed the Baltimore Ravens’ loss to the Detroit Lions, highlighting the Lions’ physical dominance and the Ravens’ struggles with injuries and offensive line issues. They noted the Ravens’ lack of ball security, particularly with Derrick Henry, and the predictability of their offense. Dennis emphasized the need for better coaching and physicality, especially with key players like Matt Abika and Kyle Van Noy out. They also touched on the upcoming game against Kansas City and the importance of rest and preparation. Nestor shared his experience with a driverless car, praising its safety and convenience.
Action Items
- [ ] Analyze film and identify specific technique and scheme issues on the offensive line.
- [ ] Determine if Marlon Humphrey and other injured players will be healthy enough to play against the Chiefs.
- [ ] Develop a more creative and effective game plan to get the running game and Lamar Jackson’s mobility back on track.
Outline
Baltimore Ravens’ Loss to Detroit Lions
- Nestor Aparicio introduces the show and mentions the short week ahead with Kansas City game.
- Nestor Aparicio welcomes Dennis Koulatsos, noting their long absence from discussing football.
- Dennis Koulatsos comments on the hype before the game and the pregame show with electronics and Jason Kelsey playing the saxophone.
- Dennis Koulatsos highlights the Lions’ improved performance under Dan Campbell and their physical dominance over the Ravens.
Analysis of the Lions’ Victory
- Nestor Aparicio and Dennis Koulatsos discuss the Lions’ aggressive play and the Ravens’ struggles in the game.
- Nestor Aparicio mentions the headline “Fearless Lions came roaring into Raven’s den and bullied the bullies.”
- Dennis Koulatsos notes the Ravens’ lack of physicality and the Lions’ better offensive creativity.
- Nestor Aparicio and Dennis Koulatsos discuss the Ravens’ injuries and the impact on the team’s performance.
Challenges for the Ravens’ Offense
- Nestor Aparicio and Dennis Koulatsos discuss the Ravens’ offensive line issues and the lack of ball security.
- Dennis Koulatsos mentions the predictability of the Ravens’ offense and the Lions’ better blocking.
- Nestor Aparicio highlights the Ravens’ past success against NFC teams and the current challenges against the Chiefs.
- Dennis Koulatsos questions the Ravens’ play-calling and the decision to go for a two-point conversion late in the game.
Concerns About the Defensive Line
- Nestor Aparicio and Dennis Koulatsos discuss the Ravens’ defensive line struggles and the impact of injuries.
- Dennis Koulatsos mentions the need for better pressure on the quarterback and the challenges faced by the interior of the line.
- Nestor Aparicio expresses concern about the Ravens’ front seven and their upcoming games against CJ Stroud and Matt Stafford.
- Dennis Koulatsos highlights the importance of physicality and the need for better coaching and scheme adjustments.
Lamar Jackson’s Performance and Team Dynamics
- Nestor Aparicio and Dennis Koulatsos discuss Lamar Jackson’s performance and the need for better weapons around him.
- Dennis Koulatsos notes the Lions’ effective coverage and the lack of open receivers for Lamar Jackson.
- Nestor Aparicio mentions the importance of getting the ball to Zay Flowers and Rashad Bateman.
- Dennis Koulatsos suggests that the offensive line’s issues and the lack of physicality are affecting Lamar Jackson’s performance.
Upcoming Game Against Kansas City
- Nestor Aparicio and Dennis Koulatsos discuss the upcoming game against Kansas City and the challenges it presents.
- Dennis Koulatsos emphasizes the importance of being physical and getting better rest and preparation.
- Nestor Aparicio mentions the Ravens’ history with the Chiefs and the need to change their mojo.
- Dennis Koulatsos highlights the importance of a good game plan and the need to punch the Chiefs in the mouth.
Dennis Koulatsos’ Personal Update
- Nestor Aparicio shares his recent trip to the Hollywood Bowl and his experience with a driverless car.
- Dennis Koulatsos expresses his skepticism about driverless cars and his preference for traditional driving.
- Nestor Aparicio describes the experience of riding in a driverless car and the safety and convenience it offers.
- Dennis Koulatsos shares his own experience with a robot-delivered meal and the creepy aspect of it.
Final Thoughts and Promotion
- Nestor Aparicio and Dennis Koulatsos discuss the future of driverless cars and their potential benefits.
- Nestor Aparicio emphasizes the importance of productivity and safety in using driverless cars.
- Dennis Koulatsos promotes his car dealership and the current deals on new and pre-loved vehicles.
- Nestor Aparicio concludes the segment with a light-hearted note about the Ravens’ upcoming game and the need for humor.
SUMMARY KEYWORDS
Baltimore Ravens, Detroit Lions, Derrick Henry, offensive line, Lamar Jackson, Dan Campbell, Kansas City Chiefs, defensive line, ball security, play calling, injury concerns, physicality, driverless car, Waymo, productivity.
SPEAKERS
Speaker 1, Nestor Aparicio
Nestor Aparicio 00:01
Welcome home. We are W n s t, am 15 70,000 Baltimore. We are Baltimore positive. I get all the plugs out. It’s a short week. Kansas City looks at the Owings Mills this week and any breaking news, what happened first on the W n s t tech service, all of that brought to you by cold roofing and and Gordian energy, and I do have Raven scratch offs. They’re kind of shimmery with the bad thing. I hope they have better luck than the Ravens actually had on Monday night against the Detroit Lions. I am thrilled to have this next guest on. It’s been a little while since he and I have wrapped up a game. I meant to have him on after the Cleveland game, but I was away and I came back, and then I went away again, and I’ve been trying to travel to make, you know, bad politics and weird things and football angst and baseball non playoff activity all go away, but it’s always nice to touch base with old friends. Dennis collatzos is so with coons Ford security Boulevard, people ask me about you. They’re like, where’s Dennis? I’m like, he’s right here on my phone. You need his number. You buy a car because I need I call you. I’m my car’s okay right now, but I miss you. I miss our coon sponsorship. I miss chatting with you several times a week, and more than that, people want to know is Dennis doing better than the Ravens?
Speaker 1 01:23
For the moment, I’m doing better than they were Monday night, for sure. Nestor, the lot of hype heading into the game. Great, great. The pregame show with electronics, Jason Kelsey playing the saxophone breast dressed in ravens marching band gear that was a lot of fun to see, but I
Nestor Aparicio 01:43
hope he has better behavior than Steve Smith,
Speaker 1 01:44
oh my gosh, and the or his brother. But it was clear early on, these are not the same old lions Nestor, these are not an automatic W for any team that faces them. Dan Campbell’s proven us to be a very good coach, a very good motivator. You can tell this team was fired up, uh, came in with a chip on their shoulder and just really bullied the Ravens against the bottom line. They just had to wait with them. They smacked him around on the offensive line and defensive line, and really controlled the game from the opening whistle.
Nestor Aparicio 02:14
Well, it’s funny. You say that because I’m writing my headline. Fearless lions came roaring into Raven’s den and bullied the bullies. That’s one of our headlines at Baltimore. Positive for Luke and I. And, you know, I don’t even know where to begin with this, right? Like you and I haven’t talked, I think we did a draft set piece together back during the draft time, because you’re a draft Nick you love the draft, and I feel bad that I haven’t had you on. I mean, I meant even had preseason football sucks, right? Like, what is there even to say when they don’t even get out on the field other than we hope they’re healthy, then likely goes down? They lost our Darius Washington, all these things that have conspired to atrophy them to some degree. Then the Kyle van Noy thing happens now as we look at it, Matt abika looks this looks to be really problematic, if something is not announced in the coming days or hours by Adam Schefter or whatever. Humphrey looks gimpy, not right, older, whatever it is, the Derek Henry fumbling problem, the running the ball problem that they’re having Lamar getting sacked, holding the ball, not looking to run, not having the space to run, and not playing well against good teams. You know that that really is there was a point where they bullied teams. I’m beating the 40 Niners, beating these NFC teams, beat up the lions two years ago like this. Going to see a different Kansas City team this week feels like a different Baltimore team to me, three weeks in
Speaker 1 03:48
no doubt about it. Nestor, the wild thing is that one of these teams going to be one in three at the conclusion of Sunday’s matchup between the ravens and the chiefs, and that’s not a hole you’re going to be in. Not not if you’re planning on making the playoffs and having a good seating but even Lamar Jackson didn’t look right to me. I don’t know if he was holding the ball too long. You can tell that from my vantage point. Zay flowers kept taking his helmet off in the fourth quarter in frustration. He was open. Rashad Bateman is always open, and I don’t know what Lamar was looking at. He threw an errand pass. I believe in the second quarter, should have been picked off, but wasn’t. And so a lot of holes in the game. I also thought that their offense has become pretty predictable, particularly when you bring in Derrick Henry and number 84 in front of him to block for him. I thought the lions did a better job. They were more creative and had a more attacking offense. So I think that the lot of work to be done, they’ve got to figure it out. And Patrick Ricard, I don’t know how big of a factor he is in him missing from the team, but as you mentioned, Derek Henry’s lack of ball security three games in that that’s going to be a great cause for concern. I mean, if the guy gets 1520 carries a game, you can’t put the ball on the on the ground three times.
Nestor Aparicio 04:59
Listen. And I’m as bullish on Derek Henry’s anyone. I mean, this goes back to you and me at trade deadlines two, three years ago, saying he would be a game changer for them. I still believe that he’s the only Jersey I have in my closet. You know, is it Derek Henry jersey? Literally, it’s a Houston Oiler jersey. And I didn’t mean to wear Honolulu blue, when my Raskin global shirt here just kind of the way it came up. It’s more periwinkle than Honolulu. But in the case of Derek Henry, I’m still a believer. I’m not a believer in the offensive line right now. And to your point, scheme wise, ravens got out coached tremendously in the game that double hand off at the line. I mean fourth and three going over the top to st John, just the balls to go fourth and three on the road, the calm with which Jerry golf plays the game, versus the frenetic energy of guys throwing helmets on the sideline. And you’re mentioning helmets offers a flowers. I didn’t even notice that. I don’t know if you know or not. They don’t want me at the stadium seeing what they’re doing, so they’ve thrown me out of the Little Kevin Byrne press box in the corner. So I don’t see all of that, those things that I used to see in the stadium that I just see the television broadcast now like everyone else, and the thing I see like anyone else is ravens football was built on the line of scrimmage. I mean, you, you know, I know you’re svelte these days, but you’re once alignment as I understand it. EVT, and did your line work on but play both sides of the ball. I was alignment on the Dundalk house, opening blocks for John Rollo. If you can believe that, I almost didn’t. I didn’t make weight one time at Patapsco. But this is when I in 1978 I was 10 years old, but line play and understanding the importance of line play, and you’ll appreciate the fact that I spent last Saturday with members of the sack pack. I was actually with Dutton. I was with Joe Erman last week. So I understand pressure on the quarterback, and what that means, as well as what it means for an offensive line that has been for this franchise in recent years, going back to Ryan Jensen and and Walker and those guys that went off to other places and got paid, they’ve they’re fly by the seat of their pants with this offensive line At you know, beyond the draft lender bomb and and drafting in the second round last year, the Washington kid, they it’s not a place where they invest the offensive line.
Speaker 1 07:32
Well, you know, there’s only about four in the NFL right teams that want to physically dominate you. I certainly say
Nestor Aparicio 07:40
that again, because you broke up on me. You said there’s only, there’s only
Speaker 1 07:45
five or six, what I call muscle teams in the NFL, teams that will come in and pound you and try to be more physical than you. Certainly the ravens are one of those teams. But definitely the lions, as they showcase Monday night, are definitely one of those teams that were better at it, at bully ball than the Ravens. And, you know, the buffalo built with the same way, you look at their trenches, the way that they’re built, the Eagles, all these teams that are Super Bowl front runners, they’re bullies.
Nestor Aparicio 08:10
Well, the problem with the Chiefs is they haven’t been built that way last couple years, right, right?
Speaker 1 08:14
And they’re paying a price for it. When you you like, to your point, you’ve got to invest assets in your offensive defensive lines. Clearly, the Lions have done that, and you combine that with good with the great coaching scheme and aggressive coaching scheme. And read, let me this semester, late in the game when the Ravens scored to make it 3830, why? Why did they go for two point conversion? I didn’t. I didn’t get that in that moment. What was there to gain by by making a but by making or missing a two point conversion versus kick, get the extra point and then your onside kick. I question a lot of things that they do, but that was one of them that really stood
Nestor Aparicio 08:51
out. The fourth and nine punt. Where are you on that four minutes left? You’re going to give them the ball. They got the ball back.
Speaker 1 09:01
Yeah, you know what it they made the right decision. I think they just didn’t execute. They failed to execute. But I
Nestor Aparicio 09:07
don’t know where your confidence level would be on a fourth and nine with the game on the line, it
Speaker 1 09:11
wouldn’t, I mean, it just wasn’t, which I think is why they punted. I think they made some mistakes in the past, and they certainly made the mistakes given the bills the ball back with a few minutes to go and relying on their defense, not realizing their defense couldn’t stop receive but again, there’s been questionable play calling. They’ve been all over the place. They’ve got to figure it out. They’ve got to get an identity going again. And just because they’re missing madabecon And Kyle van Noy, that doesn’t give them the excuse that that’s the reason why they lost Nestor?
Nestor Aparicio 09:41
Well, there is something to be said about your best players not being on the field last year. If they had nothing else going for them, they were injury free for the most part, got most of the horses to the courses, and now that we make this turn life without Matt abika For the season, to think of. Out that, or even think about it this week, life without him, they look like a different football team, and the fact that the pass rush without van Noy wouldn’t be as good, and where we are with O way, or where we are with Mike Green, or where we are with a job or anybody else that could get after the quarterback. It feels like that’s not just a lion’s problem. It feels like that’s going to be their problem right now, that the defense and that front seven, and what it means for roquan Smith and no matter BK, Patrick Queens not coming back in the door, Lewis isn’t coming back in the door. But what that front seven has been it looked really problematic to me on Monday night. It looks like this is not one of those things that could take care of itself. As you see CJ Stroud next week and you see Matt Stafford the week after that, I am worried about their defensive front seven at this point, without Madame beat game and both running into and rushing the passer?
Speaker 1 11:05
Yeah, I think we all are Nestor. If they can’t get pressure on the quarterback with four men, they have to blitz, which exposes the secondary, right? That’s not an ideal situation you want to put your defense in. I had the pleasure of meeting Mike Green. He’s a fine young man, but he’s young. He’s wrong, he’s wrong. It’s going to take him some time to develop. But really the biggest problem, though, the interior of the line, where’s Travis Jones and is saying they need to go back and watch film and figure out who got blown out and why? Is it a technique problem? Is it a scheme problem? What do they have to do to get better? Because they have a short week to prepare for the chiefs. That’s, you know, that’s, that’s an absolute, right?
Nestor Aparicio 11:39
There might have been a penne soul problem.
Speaker 1 11:43
Maybe, I’m telling you, man, they got pushed all over the plane. Rope one, I mean, I’m seeing rope one get pushed 567, yards downfield. They couldn’t keep him clean.
Nestor Aparicio 11:52
Well, been a tough week around here. Dennis Galantis, hey, you’re selling cars. You’re still selling cars. What’s going on out there?
Speaker 1 11:58
Still selling cars. Still chopping wood here every day sport of Baltimore, still taking care of our friends in our community, and it’s great that we do a lot of repeat and referral business, just like just like wnst does.
Nestor Aparicio 12:10
Well, I’m trying to repeat and referral, but I don’t want to repeat Monday night. Certainly don’t want to repeat the Orioles season and all of that. Where are you on the Mars maturation and all this that his best skills and the showcasing that you want to do with him, it is a symphony. It’s an orchestra, and as much as when they get behind, it still feels like he wants to put the Superman cape on and go into phone booth and play the role of the hero. I am worried about the components around him on the offensive line, because the running game has to be better ball security, obviously. But even ball security, aside, the level of success that they’ve had now over two football games plus a quarter is problematic, and I hope they get likely back positive signs, Mark Andrews came back to life. Positive signs, you and I have not had a conversation about DeAndre Hopkins being a part of this, but still a weapon that they certainly could utilize, and lamar’s legs as a weapon versus Lamar as this pocket passer who’s getting caged in and sacked. Yeah.
Speaker 1 13:22
I mean, Lamar and the first two games look like an MVP candidate. Not so much against the lions. What do we attribute that to? One thing is to the Detroit Lions their time of possession. I mean, they ran the they they had the ball for, I think, 20 minutes in the first half alone. The best weapon, the best way to keep Lamar Jackson in check is to keep him on the bench, and that’s exactly what happened. So maybe when he gets in the game, his internal clock speeds up. He feels like he has to make a play, but he just didn’t look right Monday night, Nestor. And so the other piece is he said that the lions did a good job of caging him. They had a spy assigned to him. Well, if you have a spy assigned to the quarterback that you’re playing on 1111 football, which means that somebody should be open. You have, you have man coverage downfield. And I think Lamar didn’t miss receivers routinely downfield for whatever reason. He just didn’t see him
Nestor Aparicio 14:12
and say flowers wasn’t a factor in the game the way you’d want to get the ball in his hands, right? Just get the ball in his hand somehow. No.
Speaker 1 14:20
And he just like Bateman, they’re usually they’re open more often than they’re covered. And he has such great weapons. You talk about D hop, you talk about the tight ends, I mean, Charlie Kohler showed up Monday night. He has weapons he can distribute the ball to. But to me, maybe perhaps it’s more scheme that was the problem, along with the lack of physics, physicality from the offensive line in the loss of the lions
Nestor Aparicio 14:45
Dennis kalau, so rejoining us for a little football chatter here in advance of trying to change the Mojo around here, they won a lot of games with Dennis was here every week. They’re heading to Kansas City this weekend for the barbecue, you know, Dan Monday Night Football. Black jerseys, you know Ray Lewis statue and all that he touched his foot and Johnny you and we’re going in, and we’re doing all that I have my Colts. Memories from last week we celebrated 75 Colts. I talked to Lydell for a half an hour. Was a thrill. I Roger Carr shook my hand. It was unbelievable. Never met Roger car in my life. Um, all the years ago in the Ravens game, sitting in the first row section 513, see six and seven and looking down, and how many times I would see the ass of a quarterback on the three yard line, five yard line, crowds Crazy, right where Ray danced right, in that end zone and back to the end zone, and then the next time it’d be incomplete into the line, incomplete Hunter lines up trying to figure out how not that get blocked or have a safety in our end zone. We’re breathing down on them. I can’t remember being in that end zone seeing somebody start at the one and a half yard line, and 11 and a half minutes later be having a touchdown on the other end on a Monday night football game in a packed house and the let’s go lions chance at the end of the game, there was just a lot of bad things happened on Monday night for me.
Speaker 1 16:18
They chanted. They chanted not only at the end of the game written Nestor, they were chanting the entire time. I was surprised with how many Lions fans that I saw. They were there. They were there numbers. And they were very vocal. I mean, they had a defense chant going a couple of times that you couldn’t hear on TV. I mean, they were very, very vocal. And of course, as their Ravens fans exited late in the game, they became more vocal. Or their their voices became louder
Nestor Aparicio 16:41
once you go backwards 98 and a half yards, and you know that the team has the capability of doing that, and then you can’t stop it. That’s how they got two touchdowns behind.
Speaker 1 16:53
Well, they did to us what we do to teams, right? And watching a team run for 225, yards on you, it’s like watching paint dry. It’s just very painful. It’s just, yeah, they’re beating you with paper cuts, and of course, then they bust the long ones. Right? That’s what happens. You pound pound, pound, and you break one. It’s what the Ravens do. And it was just a reversal of Fortune’s Monday
Nestor Aparicio 17:13
night Kansas City. I mean, we think of them as being a diminished version of themselves. Certainly, the one and two record would speak to that. I think the trophies in the case, when you walk in from the minute you land there in a football environment, the lack of success there in a general sense, that it’s tough place to play. Ravens are two and a half point favorite this week.
Speaker 1 17:36
No, so they shouldn’t be put into that without what I say.
Nestor Aparicio 17:41
Well, you know, they’re two and a half to make you laugh. There’s your enticement there. I don’t know what the enticement would be, but the vibe is that Monday’s a bad beat. You wash it out. I don’t know. I watched the game. I saw a lot of bad vital signs beyond Derek Henry fumbling because I’d still give him the ball 99 out of 100 times. I’m fine with their I’ll give him the ball again. I’m good. If he’s gonna fumble 16 games in a row, I’ll give him the ball every week, because that’s what, that’s how they’re gonna win. They’re gonna win with Derrick Henry. They’re not, not gonna hide Derrick Henry. I don’t know about the running part of the Lamar game. I don’t know about this offensive line and play calling for monkin to say we got guys here that we can only do so much with. We’re a little limited with the offensive line, with file Lele and with what we want to expose them to, and where we can be successful in running the football. But week one buffalo, they’re pulling guards, they’re pulling tackles, they’re getting out, they’re getting lead blockers. They’re getting the ball into zay flowers hands. They’re, you know, but a pitch out to Derrick Henry at the goal line and having him throw a jump ball get a $50 million I mean, just some really bizarre things that happened on Monday night.
Speaker 1 18:56
Dennis, yeah, again, I would recommend that the they leave Henry by himself in the backfield. Anytime you bring in the fullback, you signal to the defense which side of the of the field they’re going to run. They didn’t run any misdirection. There were no creativity whatsoever. So if they’re they have to put Derrick Henry in a position to be successful versus putting a full black a full box in front of him. And if he the full backs on the right side of the field. That’s where they’re running for the left side of the field. That’s where they stack the box. That’s where they’re running. That’s why he’s gaining one or two yards a carry. He’ll break one once in the blue moon, but they’ve got to give the man an opportunity to excel.
Nestor Aparicio 19:32
Well, the misdirection, the sleight of hand of Lamar. And Lamar might run left and and Derek Henry might run right and say flowers. He may eat the ball and hit, say, flowers on a crossing route that goes 82 yards. And, you know, and they have that explosive ability, right? Like they have that ability quick strike one play, they have a running back that can do that. But the blocking up front, I mean, and I always say alignment, assignment, technique, I. Lineman assignment, that’s fine. They’re getting their ass beat so and that that’s not even technique. It’s not alignment, assignment or technique. That’s literally, you know, you’re just getting beat. You can be in all of those positions. They they’ve gotten manhandled up front. And I, I don’t like that. I don’t like the 30 something left tackle. I don’t think Linder bombs 100% I certainly know Marlon Humphreys not 100% the Nixon bumps on this team right now make them vulnerable. And if they come out and they slap around Kansas City on Sunday, God bless them. It’s good they’re two and two, they’ll get where they need to be. But this becomes like this is a as big as September football game as they’ve had around here a long, long time.
Speaker 1 20:45
You know what? They better get some rest, get some ice in the tub, and then they better hit the weight room, eat some big ribeye T bone steaks, some cowboy steaks, and beef up and and get stronger as a week goes along and and nurse themselves back to health. Come up with a good game plan. Punch the chiefs in the mouth and be the more physical team, which they weren’t on Monday night, and they paid a price for it.
Nestor Aparicio 21:07
All right, Dennis, I’m gonna get off the beaten path here with you. I know you’re not out on Facebook monitoring. You know, everything I’m doing, but my wife and I went away over the weekend first let me travel together a little while, because I’m not doing these football trips. I’m a little antsy, you know, to go do some things. I went to the Hollywood Bowl. I know you always are, you know, as a fellow Tony Robbins kind of guy, you’re always telling me to pursue my my American dream, like my Raskin global shirt on. So I the Hollywood Bowl was on my bucket list. And the who played, and Aerosmith, unbelievable show. So went out west. And here’s something I did. And my buddy Thomas Dolby has talked to me about this, because he has a driverless car. Car drives itself. We got one of those waymos. We were in LA, and we saw him driving around with the little whirly bird on the top. We’re like, oh, it’s driverless car. Look at that. So I, I feel like I’m in an episode of The Jetsons, right? Yeah. And we decided to do it, no matter what the cost was. We were like, You know what? If it’s a limo cost, we’re going to take a short ride to breakfast. And it costs 25 bucks to go to breakfast. We’re going to suck it up, because it’s like, it’s like going to the sphere. It’s like doing something that you know that you can only do right? Turns out, I learned a lot about you. Have you ever taken a driverless car?
22:25
I have not, and probably will not.
Nestor Aparicio 22:30
What’s wrong with you? Why not? Look, I’m
22:32
not. I’m old school. Man, I got to have my hand on the wheel.
Nestor Aparicio 22:35
I mean, you getting cabs, you getting busses, you get on planes.
Speaker 1 22:39
But there’s people driving these things, not you trust people. I do over machine
Nestor Aparicio 22:49
other than me. I didn’t trust me.
Speaker 1 22:50
My Ford f1 50 had blue cruise, which is hands free, and I love it, but, but it does give me the ability to put my hands back on the steering wheel if need be.
Nestor Aparicio 22:59
What is that you’re just dropping gimmicky gadgetry Ford Motor Company.
Speaker 1 23:05
Wait, it has what? Yeah, it’s, it’s called Blue cruise. And what happens is it changes lanes by itself. I mean, it just drives you to your destination, but it also does, once in a while, recommend you put your hands back on the steering wheel when traffic gets a little little dicey. So I like, I like to have both worlds. I like to have the ability to for the vehicle to be driverless, but also to drive it. So I’m not ready to trust just a machine to
Nestor Aparicio 23:29
drive the ability for it to be driverless. You’re not anti driver lists, right?
Speaker 1 23:37
You’re an airplane, right? I’m not going to get it on an airplane without a pilot, right? What’s the airplanes take off, they’re an autopilot, right? But at some point you have to take, switch off the autopilot and take control of it, which is why being capable of correcting a machine’s fault.
Nestor Aparicio 23:59
So we get in, we get in this thing, and it was more inexpensive than we compared. It was cheaper than taking an Uber or Lyft, right? And we
Speaker 1 24:10
like the experience, so I can tell that you really enjoyed it.
Nestor Aparicio 24:13
Well, we watched them in LA, and we said, Well, we had a car in LA, so we we didn’t need one in LA. So we saw them, and we got to Phoenix. And I was in Atlanta about six months ago, and I’m walking by on the Georgia Tech campus, and a little robot came by me, a little look at a dog. It was a small little object with a flag on it and a camera. It was a little thing. It was delivering tacos to someone on campus. It was a little wagon driving up on the sidewalk, navigating. And it was, it was it was tacos. It was a taco delivery. On campus. So, like I said, it’s only one time I’ve seen that. I haven’t seen the driverless cars. So we saw it, and my wife’s doing the same thing you’re doing. Like, I don’t know I might be that. I don’t know if I feel safe. So we landed in Phoenix, and in the morning, we were going to breakfast. We were we were at the airport seven in the morning. I thought it was going to cost a lot of money. I just thought, like, this is an exclusive. This is going to be like getting a limo. It’s going to be like, Uber Black. The $12 ride is going to be $32 to go get breakfast. And I don’t want to do that. So we were going to go over to Tempe, and they were having that memorial rally in Arizona. So like a lot of the roads were closed off and all that was going on. My eighth grade English teacher was trying to have breakfast with me. I couldn’t get to her, so my wife looks it up. It came to the hotel we were staying in an aloft and it took us down a boulevard past Arizona state. We weren’t right past the stadium where I saw Neil O’Donnell throw the pick, you know, where I saw Trent Dilfer take over the ravens and everyone so sun, Devil Stadium on the backside. And it was 730 in the morning. We’re going out for breakfast. There weren’t a lot of cars. It didn’t get on the highway. And it drives the speed limit, okay, 35 miles an hour. It’s going 35 miles an hour. So we got in it, and we’re we Facebook Live, because we felt so, so sexy. It’s seven in the morning. We’re there, got a got a coffee, and we’re going through the car’s immaculate. No one’s driving. And we started talking to our snooze. We’re flirting with the waitress that was, you know, she was bringing us coffee, went on. We’re like, we took one of these cars. She’s like, Yeah, nobody around here takes she’s a college student. There’s a nobody takes them. They they go slow, they don’t get on the highway. And I’m thinking, so they’re safer. So every single thing that they do is safer than the jack wagon that we hired as an Uber driver eight years ago in Phoenix that smelled like whatever that episode of BBO was with Seinfeld. This was the worst smelling human I have ever been in a vehicle with, and he was our Uber driver, and he picked us up in Phoenix in 2007 1617, Super Bowl. And my wife and I still talk about, like, that’s the Uber driver you you do not want. So this car was a jaguar. It was immaculate. Wow. It was, it was silent. It was, you had musical options in the back seat. It said, don’t touch the wheel. We know, like, you know, if I want to get intimate with my wife in the backseat, I know I’m being videotaped, right? So I’m not stealing anything. I’m not you feel a little bit like you’re being watched, but it’s kind of nice and pleasant, and it feels like a shuttle ride. It doesn’t talk to you or anything, but it did say hello, Jennifer. When it picked her up, it had her name on the lights. When it picked her up, it only would unlock the door for her. The app unlocked the door of the
Speaker 1 28:07
car. See, our kid just went out out in LA a couple months ago, and they took one of those vehicles. And our daughter’s boyfriend, he’s a little rambunctious, so he opened up the door, he cracked the door, open it, he closed it real quick, because he wanted to see what happened. And somebody over the speaker said, is everything okay? We noticed the doors opened. So they, they are monitoring you 100% of the time.
Nestor Aparicio 28:29
It’s aI monitor, I’m sure. But I, I Well, it does talk to you. It says you’re here, you know, welcome, hello. You know, it’s very space age. So we took it, we got out, we felt it was a little weird, but it was like, I almost wanted to talk to the driver. It didn’t exist, because I always flirt with my Uber driver, because I’m a talker, you know, I talk to everybody. You know, just especially when I’m away from home, I tend to be a lot more gregarious when I’m in an airport in El Paso than I am. I don’t know, DeSantis having a pizza. You know what I mean.
29:02
Now, the question I have for you is, did you leave a tip? You
Nestor Aparicio 29:05
don’t have to tip. So that’s the other part. So here’s what happened. We were chatting with this young lady who was our server, and she said, Nobody takes these. And I’m thinking to myself, all right, so it’s cheaper, little slower. It’s safer. Dennis, here’s what I’m going to tell you. We took it over to Carolinas to get Tex Mex tacos. If you’re ever in Phoenix, drop me a note. I’ll send you some good places. So on the other side of the airport, 3.2 miles, it was a $10 um, Waymo ride. So we got another Waymo, we get in it, and we’re going the other side of the airport. And it was a quiet kind of area near the car rental area near the airport where we were going. So there wasn’t a lot of activity. It’s not a residential area, per se, more industrial kind of, sort of by the airport. And we were. Going on a very quiet it was, it was literally an industrial road, and someone was driving a car. And, like you mentioned, your maybe future son in law, Jimmy the door to see what would happen. Someone gassed out on our Waymo to, like, pretend it was going to hit it. In other words, just left the stop sign a little early, accelerated into the intersection the Waymo just slowed down, move, went around it and didn’t get spooked the way. Like, if you were driving and someone pulled that issue, might get out and have a fight. You know what I mean? Like, this was something they did to Jimmy our car, because we were in a driverless car, to see what would happen. And I even watched it like they looked like they were going to come out and hit us and T bone us. The car responded to it favorably, much more favorably than a driver would. And I’m going to give you the last thing in that you told me eight minutes ago you would never take you still would never get in one of these.
Speaker 1 31:00
I wouldn’t say never. But you know what? There’s a time and place for everything and not to get way too off track. We were at a Turkish restaurant in town about a year ago, and we were bought a meal by robot. I mean, this thing just came to our table with with
Nestor Aparicio 31:15
our food. I have one of those in Canada at an Asian joint two years ago.
Speaker 1 31:19
Isn’t it just a wild experience? You’re like, Okay, you take your food off the tray, you put it in front of you, and then it leaves. I don’t know it
Nestor Aparicio 31:25
was like the Jetsons waiter, right? Like the Jetsons,
Speaker 1 31:29
I robot in a creepy kind of a way. That was a creepy movie anyway, but I hope that’s not a preview of common attractions anyway.
Nestor Aparicio 31:36
This was not creepy at all. And I like, I’m doing a whole thing with you, because you sell cars, Dennis, here’s where I was on it, and I’m not, I’m not BS in you, okay? Like, I’m being really honest. It goes slower. It doesn’t go on the highway, so high speed accidents wouldn’t happen. Now, we took it over to Carolinas, and then from Carolinas, we were going to Scottsdale to go day drinking. It’s 103 degrees, and I knew it wouldn’t get on the highway, so it was just going to take so if I got it in Delaney Valley Road and I went downtown, it wouldn’t take 83 it would take York Road, it would take Perry Parkway. It would go 45 or 55 it just doesn’t get on freeways, right. So it takes a little longer to get there. I swear to you that if on Saturday night, I could go see the black crows in Woodstock, New York, and you had a car, you had that car that that specific Jaguar that was nice, or a nice Ford that I could just get in the back seat, take my laptop and get in the car, and it would take Pulaski highway right instead of I 81 through Scranton, it would just take me through the Amish country up through and I would have a perfectly pleasant 55 mile an hour road up and down the hills of Amish country. And I wouldn’t have to drive. And when the show’s over in the dark, get in the back seat, take a nap on the way, be like a limo driver without the limo. I’m telling you, okay, I felt completely safe. And I felt like it was not only that. It was almost like more sensible, like, human error is a thing. I know. You know, this huge
Speaker 1 33:20
thing, of course, then you also minimize road rage. I mean, what are you going to get at? Meta, a driverless
Nestor Aparicio 33:24
car? No, if, if nobody drove and they all drove themselves, you wouldn’t have jackasses driving 80 miles an hour racing either, right? So like I looked at it and I thought, Dennis, I remember holding this phone up for Ed Hale, is running for governor 20 years ago, and I tried to explain to him, I remember holding this phone up for Steve bashati, who told me, I don’t type. I’m like, I’ll get people to do that. I’m like, No, you won’t, because you won’t be able to communicate with humans. I tried to explain that Steve Bisciotti doesn’t have a lot of emotional intelligence, apparently. But I tried to explain to him, I was trying to explain to people technology and Facebook and MySpace. You were my sponsor, and I said, we’re gonna have a web page, and we’re gonna have we’re gonna stream our radio. One day, we’ll zoom and Jetsons each other. I’m telling you, the driverless car thing, above and beyond, seeing the Hollywood Bowl, spending great time with my wife, visiting with people I liked having having memorable experiences that driverless car weirded me out. And I thought of you, and I thought, when you have a car, that I could come over and I would never have to drive it, and I’m not afraid of it, and it had. And here’s the last thing I wanted to leave you with, this we’re rolling around like a phoenix ghetto in $120,000 Jaguar, right? Like, really nice, and we’re in the back seat. We don’t have a driver. We don’t have a gun. Everybody in Arizona has got a gun. Just ask around. So I’m thinking, like, safety wise, carjacking wise, all of those things that you would think about in a city, would this thing avoid neighborhoods I would be afraid of getting shot in? Or what I’m thinking to myself, what could be safer than being in a car? Car that’s got cameras literally everywhere. Who would carjack that? Who would screw with it? Who would get in it? Who would screw with it inside, other than your future son in law trying to Jimmy the door, but you’re being videoed. You’re being surveilled the entire time. I’m thinking like it’s probably a pretty safe way to ride around Baltimore. If I had $120,000 car with and I would never have to drive it. It would be easier to ensure probably, because it wouldn’t make bad decisions to make accidents. I don’t know. I’m just thinking out loud globally about the idea of it and how the Waymo people make money on it. It was a paradigm shift for me, which is why I’m even discussing with you more than the Ravens game right
Speaker 1 35:39
now. I’ll tell you this. Nestor, in regards to safety, when I go downtown, I Uber if somebody wants to take no attachment to whatsoever. So that’s one safeguard that I use in my travels in downtown to downtown Baltimore, which is infrequent.
Nestor Aparicio 35:56
Yeah, we drove down Sunday night. I don’t feel that way about Balti. I lived in downtown. I don’t I don’t feel that way at all. I don’t watch Fox 45 i i Follow the murder rate I talked to. Yeah, I follow my nose. And I’ve spent time in the city lately. A lot of time cities getting better. I There’s no question in my mind about that. It’s getting cleaner. It’s getting better. Is it perfect? No, but I went down Sunday night saw Yankees fans. Ever was a pickle fest? I went to see yacht rock. We parked on the street, no problem. Well lit. People everywhere. People were moving around at 10 o’clock on a Sunday night. It felt, you know, again, I was in LA, on the worst parts of LA. I was in Phoenix, driving around Scottsdale, nice areas, other areas in a a driverless car. The driverless car in Phoenix took me through this amazing little desert that sits to the east of where you would take the 101, to Scottsdale. I because it didn’t take that. It took us through this beautiful botanical garden in a zoo like, you know, I’m telling you, I’m when you’re in the driverless car the first time, think of me. All right, okay, just think of me, dad.
37:09
You should do commercial for these people. You do a good job with it.
Nestor Aparicio 37:12
I would buy it tomorrow as a premium item so that I would never have to drive again.
Speaker 1 37:19
Yeah, we’re getting there. We’re not quite there yet. That’s an industry, the automotive industry, but we’re getting
Nestor Aparicio 37:23
close, and the reason for that is productivity. It’s not any other thing. I’m not a podcast listener in the car. I listen to music when I’m in the car, I don’t talk. My mom’s dead, so I don’t get to talk to her anymore, because people I don’t call my kid in the car and say, Hey, how you doing? You know, like when I’m driving, it feels like wasted time to me, you know. And I that was the part that for me. That’s why Steve buscetti had a driver, you know what I’m saying, so he didn’t waste his time. That’s why important people have limos so they can get work done and file things in the backseat. So I always thought of it like, that’s why people fly first class. I think, other than to get their feet rubbed and get a, you know, get service or whatever, but I feel like productivity was the issue for me, as well as, to your point, safety. So I went through crime, driving, all of that because I’m a safety first guy. You know this about me, right? Like I’m a survivor, fight or flight, like, Is this safe? Is this dumb? Is this a bad decision? Is this going to cost me? And I felt the same way about getting in that car the first time I thought, this is, this is a lot smarter than I thought it was 20 minutes ago when I began a conversation with you. And I just wanted to point that out, because I think you’re going to be selling these cars.
Speaker 1 38:39
Well, it’s, it’s weird until it’s not right. So what’s, I always say, what’s, what’s chaos for the for the flies, normal for the spider. So it all depends on your viewpoint.
Nestor Aparicio 38:49
Dennis, I made fun of Ed Hale and Steve bati, rich guys about technology here. Let me make fun of myself the first time, my kid sent me a thing on my phone that had a little envelope on the top, and I opened it. I’m like, the hell is this? He’s like, that’s, that’s a text dad. That’s what the kids do. I’m like, yeah, don’t text me. I will never text with you. You call me. Okay, when you you show that you care about your father. You call, by the way, his 41st birthday was yesterday. You call me now at this point, like, that’s how old man I was at 38 when I told them I will never text with you. And now at 57 I’m trying to, like, tell you, I’m telling you I got my first driverless car. This is a thing.
Speaker 1 39:39
Well, talking to self superior to text. And you and I know that right things get lost translation with text, email, etc,
Nestor Aparicio 39:45
I would have given nod because I was aware I went to Dodger Stadium, which is lovely. Every everyone should see a concert at the Hollywood Bowl, and everyone should see a baseball game at Dodger Stadium. That’s all I’m saying. And everyone should put their feet in the Pacific Ocean at some point. Do, but that’s neither here nor there, but if he but these are bucket list things to do. And Jana Marie Smith, the who should be in the Oriole Hall of Fame, for sure, she should be in the Baseball Hall of Fame in Cooperstown, for sure. She built Camden Yards, remodeled and saved Fenway Park, and has made Dodger Stadium loverly. We went out. She got me tickets. Were there, Clayton Kershaw doing our whole thing. My wife said, when we left, she said, I want Janet Marie’s address. I’m like, well, here’s her text number. She’s like, No, no, no, I’m gonna write her a handwritten thank you, and I’m gonna send it with a stamp in an envelope. And I’m like, good for you. So there,
Speaker 1 40:41
alright, old school still works. Nestor, it’s the best way to communicate.
Nestor Aparicio 40:45
Dennis, go out, so tell him that you sell cars old school, right? Come on and see you.
Speaker 1 40:49
Old school, come out and see me. Rates are just dropping. They just cut the rates. Great, special, great leasing deal. Leasing has come back in a big way. That’s where the best deals are right now. Coons for Baltimore, 400 new vehicles and stock 200 pre loved come out and see us.
Nestor Aparicio 41:03
410-218-0337, is the number. Can you lease me a car that drives itself for Saturday night? So, or even if I would, you know what I would do, I would make it take me to Ocean City for Oceans calling because I don’t want to drive down right. So I make it take me down on the back roads. Right? No problem. It would drive 50. It would that that thing would take. It would drive route 50. It just wouldn’t drive 95 Well, we can sell
Speaker 1 41:27
your vehicle right now, Nestor, that would drive you part time by itself, not full time, though.
Nestor Aparicio 41:32
Part does it. Who decides when I drive and when it drives you? Do you have what if I don’t want to drive? Did you just get to Easton and stop and say, I don’t want to drive you anymore? And you anymore, and you got to drive you have
41:46
to be involved. The decisions are yours. You have full control. I
Nestor Aparicio 41:49
don’t want any responsibilities. I have an FCC license. You know how tough that is these days. I hear you. Dennis konasos is here. He’s over coons four to Baltimore, giving me a chance to use my wisdom and sense of humor in my my quick wit. I need that this week. We all need a sense of humor. The Ravens wanted to. Luke has no sense of humor about any of this. He’s at knowing Mills right now. All of it will be brought to you by friends of Cole roofing and Gordian energy when you get that W, N, S, T, tech service update that Dennis is waiting for on updates on namdi, Mata BK as well as Kyle van Noy, Marlon Humphrey, just go through the list here. Short week, big stakes. I didn’t mean to say that big barbecue, too, Kansas City, Baltimore, positive. Stay with us. You.
