With the Baltimore Orioles mired in last place (again) and talking trade deadline, it was time for Leonard Raskin to move the conversation across the parking lot where hope abounds, Lamar and King Henry run and local fans have hope for a Super Bowl parade down Pratt Street. It’s time to talk football in the Charm City!
Nestor Aparicio and Leonard Raskin discussed the Baltimore Ravens’ high expectations for the 2025-26 NFL season, emphasizing the need to overcome strong competition, including the Bengals and Pittsburgh with Aaron Rodgers. They highlighted the Ravens’ past losses due to self-inflicted mistakes and the importance of the first month of games. Raskin used a golf analogy to explain setting realistic expectations in investing, comparing it to the Ravens’ performance. They also touched on the challenges faced by the Baltimore Orioles, the ownership of the Cleveland Browns, and the broader issues in baseball, including revenue disparity and player relations.
SUMMARY KEYWORDS
Ravens, NFL camps, Maryland crab cake tour, football season, Super Bowl expectations, investment strategy, par analogy, player injuries, ownership challenges, baseball revenue, Peter Angelos, David Rubenstein, Aaron Rodgers, Joe Burrow, Baltimore positive.
SPEAKERS
Leonard Raskin, Nestor Aparicio
Nestor Aparicio 00:01
Welcome home. We are W, N, S, T, am 1570 task of Baltimore. We are Baltimore, positive. It is summer, summer. Summertime. Around here, we’re taking the Maryland crab cake tour out on the road. We’re going to be in Eldersburg at 1623,
Nestor Aparicio 00:15
as well as the morning edition of Zeke’s coffee. This week. Take a little respite next week, and we will come back after real hard beginning on August 3, which is our 27th anniversary. We’re kicking that off. Our friends at curio wellness is well as a Maryland lottery, taking us out onto the road. We’re going to be doing crab cake tours all over the place and all my favorite places to eat. Um, this guy joined me in one of my favorite places to eat. Uh, he was at the new Costa centimonium last week as part of our Maryland crab cake tour. And, you know, we didn’t talk enough football last week because it felt like a long way away. Luke was away, and the all star game and the all star break, and the Orioles are dead for rights and trading deadlines and all, you know what, all that we’re going to do there. But the football thing is really what keeps hope alive here, this time of year, and all of the focus and all of the energy, much of the chagrin of Mr. Rubenstein and Griggs and and Elias, maybe to his benefit, will go to the football team. And, you know, Luke and I hadn’t done a piece here talk football in like, three weeks, three and a half weeks, literally, he came back, we did a piece, and within 30 seconds, we’re back to Super Bowl or bust that that is where it is. And no doubt, you know, that’s a different level of expectation. That’s like me saying, Raskin, you’re going to handle my money, but I got to get 14% every year, all the time. You know, risk, no, no risk, right? Exactly, right. Good luck with that, right. Good luck with that. Well, I mean, that’s one of the ways they should put themselves, right. Look at right? It’s all about expectations. And just what you said, you know, talk to money for a second. When we meet with people, we set those expectations. And one of the things we use a golf analogy. I use a golf analogy to talk to people about investing. And the reason is, there’s this, there’s par, right? Everybody knows what par is, whether you’re a golf fan or not, you’ve heard par. So we talk about par. What we say to people is par is an expectation of return based on level of risk, and over time, we’re going to expect to hit par. And if you want somebody that’s going to drive and crush it and beat par and hit well above that with with the level of risk that you’re expecting. We’re not your people, because that’s not what we’re shooting for. You don’t put the ball in the water, that’s right, or even a trap on open weekend over in Ireland, that’s right. We have expectations, and this is what we hope to hit. And people accept that, and we move along doing their money now with the ravens, they’ve set those expectations. They’ve had those couple years where they were in the into the championship week, they’ve come up short against a couple really strong teams, but certainly teams they could have beaten. They’ve in both games, I believe, looking back, beat themselves in both losses on their way to the Super Bowl. And so here we are, 2025 26 season. And I agree with the assessment. It’s, it’s they don’t have to win the Super Bowl, although that would be fabulous. They’ve been in two. They’ve won two. We’ve been at two.
Leonard Raskin 03:19
But that’s the that’s the standard. If you don’t get into the game, it’s a bad season, and it’s a long way to go to get there. They got a lot of competition to fight through. They got the bangles to fight through. They got Pittsburgh with Aaron Rodgers, oh my God, to fight through. And they got the rest of the league to fight through the look their first game.
Nestor Aparicio 03:41
Ain’t easy. Well, the first month’s a mess. And that’s the thing I when I started, you know, looked at getting the dry erase board out. Start putting my September together, to figure out, you know, my American dream still, I still want to get to the Hollywood Bowl. And every time somebody goes there, they tell me, you got to get to the Hollywood Bowl. So I might think into the Hollywood Bowl some point September. So fingers crossed. But, yeah, what I do with my 10 cents I have left over when the show’s over with, but the notion that buffalo, yep, Cleveland, yeah, Detroit, Kansas City, not an easy not that September, you know the you will not be watching the Orioles in September. You’ll be watching this and saying, wake up on the day after the season starts one and oh, and you’ve won at Buffalo, and they beat the snot out of buffalo early in a year. That’s
Leonard Raskin 04:29
right, that’s right. And then they choke. That’s the wrong word, right? Choked. Lamar gave the ball away. Andrew mark. Andrews gave the ball the ball away. Well, no. Andrews fumbled. That was a legit hit. The guy cranked him, punched the ball. There it is. But Lamar, just like, rolled it out on the 50 yard line. Here, take it, please. So you know two giveaways, and then you’re fighting from behind, so you beat yourself. And look over the last couple seasons the game. They’ve lost in the regular season have clearly been games they could have, should have won, where they gave away turnovers, they gave away points, they just didn’t play well. I don’t think anybody really beat them. They’ve they’ve given away games they could have, should have won, and if they play their capabilities, they’ll win. So you wake up like you said. Want to know? Oh, and one, Detroit, ain’t no slouches. They play fast and hard and well, they’re
Nestor Aparicio 05:29
gonna see Joe Flacco in week two, I guess. I mean, I guess he’ll be
Leonard Raskin 05:32
the quarterback, or it could be shador, right? Shador, who knows? Right? Whatever it’ll be Cleveland. They have five quarterbacks in Cleveland. Yeah. How Cleveland is that? And what’s up with this draft pick nonsense? I’m sure you saw that Cleveland gave the second round pick a big guaranteed contract, and so now all these second round picks aren’t signing because they want to big, stupid Cleveland guaranteed contract.
Nestor Aparicio 06:01
He’s quickly becoming the pariah of owners, right? I mean, he was the one, and by the way, you know, for the Players Association to be and Bucha, he was part of this right back four years ago when they didn’t want to give Lamar money and they gave all the guaranteed money to Deshaun Watson. Standard that, yeah, that the pilot, j you know, fraudulent owner of the Cleveland Browns, Jimmy Haslam, has is marching to his own beat and is, you know,
Leonard Raskin 06:30
what he wants. He’s the He’s the new old Jerry Jones. He signed in his own contracts. He’s doing whatever the hell he wants. He doesn’t care what people
Nestor Aparicio 06:39
think. Hey, by the way, your guy, Rubenstein, came out last week and not on my show. By the way, guy, you’re, well, you were the first one who told me he was going to own the team. Yes, yes, I’ll so he’s your guy, right? Take my credit. You mentioned his name to me credit three months before he bought the team. Yes, I did. You were, like, an ownership whisperer, ownership whisper, I think they were. I mean, you
Leonard Raskin 07:02
really did. Yes, I did, and I stood by it, and he did, but, but
Nestor Aparicio 07:08
what do you think of his act so far? You haven’t bought tickets. I don’t see you running down there.
Leonard Raskin 07:12
No, no, I think I I can’t blame what’s happened on him. Look, we do have hurt players. We do have hurt pitchers. Pitching is this game, and when we pitch, we can’t hit, when we hit, we can’t pitch. They fired the
Nestor Aparicio 07:26
manager, and the general manager hid for three and a half days. I’ll continue to bring that up and say, That’s not leadership. No, I
Leonard Raskin 07:32
get it, but he’s now the one, unless they get rid of him, he’s the one large and in charge. He just had a draft. He drafted, what? Seven,
Nestor Aparicio 07:40
yeah, oh yeah. They got, they got a pluses and all the traffic, because they had more and better and a bigger pool than anybody else,
Leonard Raskin 07:46
right? So they picked who they wanted. Hopefully they they have some strength. But you know, here, here’s the tragedy of it, Nestor, look, it’s July, mid July, whatever the hell the date is today. It’s middle of July, and most of the towns more interested in training camp for the Ravens than the Orioles, well, of course. And and for the last two years, we’ve had a lot of hope around the Orioles, and we’ve had some late September, October, Orioles, and that’s been good. And, well,
Nestor Aparicio 08:17
this is where I won’t be asleep now in August and September, when nobody’s watching them and nobody cares. And every cares, and everybody’s all purpled up. And in October, November, when the ravens are eight and two, or nine and two, or, you know, 10 and one, whatever they’re going to be, when the Orioles are or are not, making the team better in the quiet space, right? Of October, November, December, that’s when our expertise kicks in, that that’s like, when things are bad in the market, you manage money, and it’s like, Hey, this is when I need to hold your hand a little bit. That’s right, um, you know the people that have trusted me all along with all of the uncomfortable truths of the Orioles, there’s a lot of uncomfortable truths. When a new guy buys the team, says he’s going to do this, that and the other and doesn’t. And then last week, this is where I was going with my piece of Rubenstein is, yeah, last week he was on one of these talking head shows you can go find it. I mean, it’s all the whistler winds him up and gives him what he’s supposed to say, right? That’s why he doesn’t sit with me. That’s why they blocked me from coming in and even being in a room with these people, right? So he mentioned that baseball has a disparity problem with revenue and with with payroll, and they need to do something about that. And I’m thinking to myself, and I know this to be factual. I don’t know that I wrote about it in Peter principles, but I think I alluded to it, but I do remember sitting with everybody who knew Peter and knew him well that when Peter bought the team in 93 his pants were so big, and his ego and just all that bluster that Peter was just all of the whatever that was, was all the bravado, all the shit talking, all of the lawyer, all of the East bald. More scrap and all that. He really knew nothing about the history of the game, and when he bought the team, and he found that he was on the wrong side of the owners and the union, and being a union guy, and then he went and fought with Simon. He called Selig a used car salesman. He was like his partner. He called him a used car salesman. And like all of the quotes are, all of that’s in pure principles, yeah, sure, yeah. But like the notion that Rubenstein bought into this and really didn’t read Lords of the Realm and really didn’t know, I mean, Rubenstein doesn’t know anything about baseball, so like the notion that he would even speak out loud about busting a union, which is pretty much go, listen to it and think, put yourself in Steve Garvey’s shoes, or mark Bellinger shoes, or whomever. Marvin Miller, Donald fear, pick anybody on the the other side. You know, he talked about, we basically need to bust the Union, but we need to have cost certainty in a salary cap. All of that stuff that Marvin Miller never wanted to hear back in Andy Messersmith in all of our lifetime, 50 years now, you and I, I’ve seen the the owners get their pants clean, by the by the players, and then the owners cry poor, and Rubenstein doesn’t know what side he’s even on in this thing, and Angelo’s didn’t either. So this is the second time a guy has bought the team and doesn’t really fundamentally understand how damaged the players and the ownership and that balance has never been in baseball. And talking about like, Well, I mean reasonable people here, you know? I mean David, I’m reasonable. David Rubenstein, reasonable people here can see that. That’s why my stadium is empty and the Yankees and Dodgers have all the money. We just need to fix that. Good luck with that. Davey, good luck with that.
Leonard Raskin 11:51
Yeah, that ain’t gonna happen. Well, right? I mean, even speaking out loud tells me how naive he is, right? Well, you gotta, you gotta know your place. Look be I say this all the time, and I don’t know the circumstances I’m going to go with what you say relative to his knowledge and his thinking and so on. I’m there because I’m not reporting on I’m not digging into it like you are, but, but I like to dig into it more and actually get it. I get it. But here’s, here’s my point. I say to people all the time, I hear this. I hear this from people. Well, I’m a sophisticated investor. I know how things work. And here’s, here’s who says that very often, are people that make a lot of money or have somehow come into significant money, whether that’s by inheritance or they they had some stock options at their company, and maybe it gave them an excess of wealth, or they bought that one deal, that one thing they got into that really gave them a significant amount of wealth. But here’s the truth, because you earn money and because you have fallen into a certain amount of money, does not mean you understand anything about economics, finance and how money works. I’ve studied the craft for 40 years. This is what I do for a living. It’s what you do for a living. Is this? Is this talk sports, you know, Baltimore positive. It’s what you do. I don’t do this. So he has been a top of his game when it comes to the world of private finance, the world of hedge fund, the world of investing, the world of you know all that
Nestor Aparicio 13:31
he didn’t do that by sitting around reading the Sporting News eight hours a day.
Leonard Raskin 13:36
But here’s my point. He because you have money and you buy a team. Jerry Jones, you know, you think you understand everything there is to know about the sport. And I would dare say that you need to know a hell of a lot about the sport to be an efficient, quality owner of the sport and and you can see the ones that are are the ones that win. It’s the same across the board. You look at football Now, granted, in football, think it’s a little more reliant on some great draft picks and some great coaching. Well,
Nestor Aparicio 14:13
this is where Bucha, he gets involved in personnel at draft time, but, but, and even strategy to some point. But Bucha, he’s into this by saying, I’m a maniac fan, right? I need to learn exactly. And he’s taken 21 years my point to know what he knows and what he doesn’t know, where to stick his nose,
Leonard Raskin 14:32
to let whoever run, whatever they’re running. That’s my point. You look at the this is really funny. Let’s, let’s talk for a second. Hockey, there was this big to do in the Stanley Cup final. I don’t know if you saw this at all. If you didn’t quick read, it’ll be worth looking at. People were crying out that the Florida teams are winning the Stanley Cup, and Vegas won the Stanley Cup, and it’s because the states they play in don’t have state income. Tax. Therefore the best players want to be there, to be there, and they’re getting paid a lot because they’re saving all this state income tax. So they went back over the last 30 years, and of course, they didn’t win all those cups. They had to have good teams with good coaches, with good players, and now they’re winning. But there’s plenty of places that didn’t have or that do have state income taxes that have won. It’s great ownership with great leadership that attracts great players. These players make enough. And we’ve talked about this. We talked about this back when Lamar was about to sign we said, if he went to Florida, how much would he make more? Yeah, he’d make more, but when you’re making 1020, 30, 50 million a year, what’s 7% Come on, really. That’s not where you’re going to choose to play be. That’s not the difference between creating wealth and not it’s who are the players, who are the managers, who are the coaches, and you got an owner who has to know what they know. And here’s what I say all the time to people, there’s this, if you look at a pie if we put a pie chart on the on the screen, there’s a little sliver in there about, let’s say baseball, football. That is what you know, right? Then there’s another sliver that is what you know. You don’t know. The rest of the pie is what you don’t know. You don’t know. And if there’s a lot on that pie, there’s gonna be a problem. You gotta know what you know, and you gotta know what you don’t know. I mean, look out west. You said it. Look out west. The Dodgers. There’s a state that has some state income tax
Nestor Aparicio 16:42
padres. But you know, Manny Machado stayed in San Diego. He made a lot of money for the Marlins, right? Who owns
Leonard Raskin 16:47
the Padres?
Nestor Aparicio 16:48
Well, um, the fella that owned them died. I don’t know the
Leonard Raskin 16:52
family, the family that owns the padres, I think, is the brother in law of the family that owns the Dodgers. It’s all it’s they know what they’re doing. They understand the game. They understand how to play it. They keep their mouth shut, they keep their head down, and they win. When’s the last time you saw the owner? You know, when you see Jerry Jones, you know, there’s a problem? Yeah,
Nestor Aparicio 17:12
the Padres didn’t have a bobble head for their owner. Let a Raskin is here. He is. Raskin global. We’re talking to football, football.
Leonard Raskin 17:19
Let’s get our draft picks, and let’s get on the field, and let’s see what we got. And look, you said it. We said it earlier, the first month. Man, the first month is going to tell the tale
Nestor Aparicio 17:31
well. And you mentioned Aaron Rodgers. We don’t play the Steelers till like, late in the year, so, like, he’ll be up. You say that? And I said, I said to No, I said to Luke, I’m like, they will be six and six, they’re always six. You know, they’re always 66 and it’s November and they’re scrapping, and they stink, and the running games good. Their defense can get at you a little bit, but you always play left handed against them. You always play like crap when you know, you never go in there. Freight train them. They always push around in the playoffs. I hear you, but I’m just saying, like I’m not ready to write them off. And I know how much you hate Joe burrow, which makes me sort of like him even more.
Leonard Raskin 18:08
But you know, no, they got a shot to me. If you gave me a quarterback to pick, I’d take a shot. They have a good shot. That’s why I said we got to fight. We got to fight the bangles, and you got to fight Pittsburgh, just because you always do, you always have to fight Pittsburgh. It’s just the way the world works. But, but I’m not worried about the browns, but, but Buffalo and and Detroit and Kansas City coming out of the gate say
Nestor Aparicio 18:31
I’m not worried about the Browns until you lose to Buffalo 20 to 19, because the new kicker misses a kick, and now you’re only one, and the
Leonard Raskin 18:38
Browns are coming in with the new kicker under the bus already? Who knows? Well, here’s a prediction. This is a, this is a flippant prediction. He will miss a big kick at some point. He will, I don’t know where. Well, they all do. I mean, and Tucker never did, and that was the strangest thing about that was his, that was his claim. Well, that wasn’t the strangest thing about talking, no, no, that was his claim to fame, coming to the team, right? He, if I remember correctly, if stats bear me out, he never missed a kick in the fourth quarter in Texas, okay? I mean, I believe that was the statistic. And comes to the ravens, and he was a superstar. Let’s face it, undrafted, made his way, made his name, made a lot of money and was a superstar, and unless he’s tarnished forever, I think from a football perspective, certainly should be a Hall of Fame kicker now 10 games suspended, and who knows if we’ll ever play the game again. But hopefully he was smart enough with his money that he doesn’t have to Well,
Nestor Aparicio 19:38
when I see him, I’m going to read to him everything he called Julie sharper and the institution of journalism the minute that the news came out, that I read in Peter Johns that day back in January. And you know, if he ever sits with me, I’ll be like, you know, I just go down the list, you know, saying, like, that’s who he is. Nobody wants
Leonard Raskin 19:57
to sit with you because you’re too tough. Fluff. You’re You’re a you’re a raw journalist. They want fluff. They want fluff. Speaking of fluff, did you watch the all star game? I did. It was really terrible. Mostly, I think the game was terrible. I thought the game was good. It’s where they ended. It was so bizarre. The announcers, of course, are touting this as the greatest.
Nestor Aparicio 20:21
The announcers are just pimps, man, like, like, it’s just what has what used to pass for Howard Cosell and journalism behind the mic, where there was someone there that wasn’t in on the charade. It is now it’s a giant charade cheerleading. It’s a cheerleading it’s really, really
Leonard Raskin 20:41
like, this is my point. That’s why they don’t want to sit with you. They don’t want old scrappy Q, a, they want soft pedal.
Nestor Aparicio 20:51
They want reality TV where they write the script,
Leonard Raskin 20:53
right, right? Yeah, I always wonder how to watch any of those shows. All that’s going
Nestor Aparicio 20:57
to do is make my show a little bit more palatable for people when they do want to come and get something that’s honest. Because, like, I watch this, and I like, I watch baseball. In the presentation of baseball, I mean, the Commissioner is sitting there with three humbled servants. Dan, please sack Harold Reynolds, whom I love Harold. I’ve known Harold 30 years. I love Harold. And the wacky guy in the middle, that’s the conductor of the orchestra. I mean, look, you and I, we got political last week, but I’ll get even more political in the Georgia thing, where they they have all these rappers out doing this rap thing to nothing but white people. They put the baseball team 20 miles away from a subway stop so that there would be no people of color coming. They put the baseball, they moved the team out of the city to a place where only white people and rich people could get to it, and the and then, you know, then the country music comes in, because they got to get that. So there’s Zach Brown. Then, of course they would have waved the flag. And then, of course they’re going to have the military. So it’s God flag, military, country, rap, Latin, white baseball, apple pie, all of this, except, like, it’s all like a gas light, yeah, it’s like, and it’s so, yeah, it’s Pablo man. It just, and it’s a meaningless game. And I felt bad for the kid that from the Diamondbacks that got hit, right? I mean, anybody getting hurt? I mean, my dad always referenced the ray Fauci Pete Rose. My dad never liked Pete Rose because of that, my dad thought that was so cheap. Bucha, yeah, you know, Ray Fauci shoulder was never right. All that so right. But, you know, I look, I love the all star game. I 10 to 20 of them. I said to my wife about two o’clock on Tuesday, I’m like, It’s 103 in Atlanta. I would be on the you know, I would be on the freeway going out there. If they were nice to me, I would have been in Atlanta. I’d have been a part of all that. But watching the television presentation, they
Leonard Raskin 22:58
look great, didn’t they look great? And how about the comments from the that was one thing that from the commentators. I thought I was surprised that they enjoyed that, that they mentioned that, that they talked about it. Because I thought that was a thing baseball was, you know, stupid about we thought it was. I mean, it was,
Nestor Aparicio 23:15
it was terrible outfits last year. When they show the highlights from last year, looks like the Jetsons. It’s terrible, disgraceful. I mean, they looked, they did look great. I’ll give you that. And I love the traditions of watching Home Run Derby. I watched a lot of the beginning of it. I didn’t, I can’t make it the whole night. And watch the whole
Leonard Raskin 23:34
night. The story that cow and his dad pitching to him, his brother was catching big dumper. He crushed, he crushed the ball. I mean, he, he took it out, he destroyed it. It was outstanding. And, and I’m sure you saw the video, 10 year old cow. Did you see the video? Oh, yeah, yeah. He proclaiming he was the home run champion, champ. Yeah, talking about foreshadowing and a thought. I mean, maybe, every 10 year old that plays baseball has that video, and they just happened to he just happened to
Nestor Aparicio 24:06
every parent. Dose on their kids these days. They all have cameras, right? I mean, we are. I mean, would have
Leonard Raskin 24:12
been anybody’s story. It just happened to be his. The videos of
Nestor Aparicio 24:16
Ray Lewis blowing players up didn’t really exist as an 11 year old, right? Lamar has got video from when he was eight years old because
Leonard Raskin 24:23
his mother shot it and his coach shot it. You got it? Yeah? Have that to promote your kid for the scholarship. So all of
Nestor Aparicio 24:29
that, it’s gonna make great Gatorade videos for Right. Right? Here he markets money, and the protection of your money in the American Dream is Raskin global. You can find him out on the front of Baltimore positive he is salivating, not too hard, because he’s down in Delaware having a good time at the beach for a little while, but waiting for football season. And it’s here. It’s here. I mean, finally, we’re going to have injuries, we’re going to have fights, we’re going to have sweat, we’re going to have fans out there. There’s even a rumor that Steve Bucha and Eric decor. They might have to look at at me on August 3. You never know. Never know that ticket says, Does it say anything about
Leonard Raskin 25:09
everybody but Nestor can come, that’s what it says, usually
Nestor Aparicio 25:12
what it says. That’s, I appreciate that. So I took off my hat and said, Imagine that. Huh? Me working for you. The signs are all out there that we’re gonna have new Maryland lottery scratch offs. I’m gonna pressure lock and they have some lucky sevens as we get into our 27th anniversary, made possible by people like Leonard Raskin who support us, as well as our friends at Curia wellness and foreign daughter, as well as the Maryland lottery, who’s putting us out on the road. My 27 favorite things to eat all next month, Leonard, you’re going to be shocked by some of these, because a couple of these are are like gems that I’ve never promoted. I don’t put pictures up of everything I eat. Believe it or not, I am very sponsor centric, because you’re the ones that power me up and keep me alive and the ability to do this. But um, a couple of these are going to be like places you’re going to I’m ready, you’re going to see number 16. You’re going to write it down, say, I’m going to get over there. Check out that chicken dish. You know that’s right. So they’re gonna be my favorite dishes. These are gonna be the things that like I literally crave that I do some are very simple, Donut, pretzel, Snowball, you know what I mean? Right? Cookies, my favorite cookies in the world. I’m gonna, I’m gonna tell you where I get those. And I’m not trying to put a run on any of this, like the pizza spinner is, but I just really want to promote some great places. It’s our 27th anniversary. I was going to do a crab soup. Leonard, I was going to do cream of crab. And merrily, I’m going to do that next year. Okay, for the 28th day. There we go. This year. We’re just going to do good stuff to eat. Leonard, Raskin is here. You can find him out at Raskin global. He is here locally, ready to help you understand money. Help you with your money. Help you understand things like insurance and your work and your 401 k, where all your dough is going. You can find him out at Baltimore positive, I am Nestor. We are W, N, S, T am 15, 70,000 Baltimore. We never stop talking Baltimore. Positive.
