None of the news has been encouraging out of Owings Mills. The injuries to Lamar Jackson and Ronnie Stanley on the offense and the decimation of the defensive front with Nnamdi Madubuike gone for the year and Roquan Smith, Marlon Humphrey and Nate Wiggins all early exits in Kansas City, Luke Jones and Nestor discuss the scorecard you’ll need to identify who will play against the Houston Texans on Sunday.
Nestor Aparicio and Luke Jones discussed the Baltimore Ravens’ numerous injuries and their impact on the team’s upcoming game against the Houston Texans. Key players like Roquan Smith, Marlon Humphrey, and Matt Abika are out, with a combined value of $150 million. Lamar Jackson’s hamstring injury is a major concern. Despite ranking third in yards per carry, the Ravens are 26th in rushing attempts. The team needs to adapt, potentially relying more on Derrick Henry and quick game passes. The conversation also touched on the need for leadership and the impact of off-field issues on team performance.
- [ ] Evaluate potential trade options to address the defensive line depth.
- [ ] Devise a defensive game plan that maximizes the strengths of the available personnel.
- [ ] Analyze the injury report and determine who is available to play against the Texans.
- [ ] Establish a run-heavy offensive approach if Lamar Jackson is limited or unable to play.
Ravens’ Injury Report and Player Availability
- Nestor Aparicio discusses the Ravens’ numerous injuries and the upcoming game against the Houston Texans.
- Luke Jones mentions the injury report, including the status of key players like Roquan Smith and Matt Abika.
- Nestor and Luke talk about the uncertainty surrounding Matt Abika’s future and the impact of his injury on the team.
- The conversation touches on the depth of the defensive line and the potential return of Roderick Washington and Travis Jones.
Impact of Matt Abika’s Injury on the Team
- Luke Jones explains that John Harbaugh ruled Matt Abika out for the year, raising questions about his long-term prognosis.
- Nestor and Luke discuss the significance of Matt Abika’s injury, noting his role as the team’s sack leader.
- The conversation highlights the lack of depth on the defensive line and the potential need for trades to address the issue.
- Nestor and Luke speculate on the future of the team if Matt Abika cannot return to play.
Offensive Line and Quarterback Injuries
- Nestor Aparicio and Luke Jones discuss the injuries to key offensive players like Lamar Jackson and Ronnie Stanley.
- The conversation emphasizes the importance of these players to the team’s success and the impact of their injuries on the offense.
- Nestor expresses concern about the team’s ability to win games with these injuries and the need for backup players to step up.
- Luke mentions the potential for Cooper Rush to start if Lamar Jackson cannot play, highlighting the challenges the team faces.
Leadership and Team Dynamics
- Nestor Aparicio criticizes the lack of leadership within the team, particularly from players like Marlon Humphrey and Roquan Smith.
- Luke Jones acknowledges the need for stars to step up and be leaders on the field, especially in the absence of key players.
- The conversation touches on the historical context of leadership within the Ravens, comparing it to past players like Ray Lewis.
- Nestor and Luke discuss the importance of having a cohesive and dynamic defense, especially with the current injuries.
Strategies for Overcoming Injuries
- Luke Jones suggests potential strategies for the team to overcome the injuries, including focusing on the running game.
- The conversation highlights the importance of running the ball effectively with players like Derrick Henry and Justice Hill.
- Nestor and Luke discuss the need for quick game and play-action passes to help the offense move the ball.
- The conversation emphasizes the importance of winning games, regardless of how they look, and the need for the team to adapt to the current situation.
Impact of Injuries on the Defense
- Luke Jones discusses the impact of injuries on the defense, particularly the loss of key players like Marlon Humphrey and Roquan Smith.
- The conversation highlights the need for the defense to adapt and find ways to be effective with the current personnel.
- Nestor and Luke discuss potential changes to the defensive scheme, including moving Kyle Hamilton to a more dynamic role.
- The conversation emphasizes the importance of getting takeaways and making big plays to help the defense perform better.
Potential for Upcoming Games
- Nestor Aparicio and Luke Jones discuss the upcoming game against the Houston Texans and the importance of winning.
- The conversation highlights the need for the team to find ways to be successful, even with the current injuries.
- Nestor and Luke discuss the potential for Cooper Rush to step up if Lamar Jackson cannot play, emphasizing the need for a strong running game.
- The conversation concludes with a focus on the importance of winning and the potential for the team to adapt and overcome the challenges they face.
SUMMARY KEYWORDS
Ravens injuries, Texans game, Lamar Jackson, Roquan Smith, Marlon Humphrey, Matt Abika, defensive line, offensive line, leadership, injury report, Cooper Rush, Derrick Henry, Kyle Hamilton, Houston Texans, Baltimore Ravens.
SPEAKERS
Nestor Aparicio, Luke Jones
Nestor Aparicio 00:01
Welcome home. We are W, N, S, T am 1570 tasks of Baltimore. We are Baltimore positive, trying to stay upbeat during the tough times here at a weird Oriole press conference. Who’s the manager? I don’t know, but they put the other manager up. It’s weird. And meanwhile, the football team has all sorts of problems this week as they come home. Take on the Houston Texans. We’ll be talking lots of Texans football this week in Houston, in the history of Houston, and even bringing some old Allers on this week to get ready for the Texans game. In the meantime, Luke Jones is out in Owings Mills, where you’re going to be downtown on Wednesday at fade least giving away Raven scratch off the new mad at aversion. I hope they’re lucky. I’ll be a costa somewhere. My cost is shirt, and Timonium says Dundalk, and we got to make a new like Timonium one for next Monday. So two crab cake tours stops this week. All the brought to you by the Maryland lottery. Also want to give a shout out to our friends at GBMC. My colonoscopy set for next month. We’re now into October, so it’ll be next month, as well as as our friends at Liberty peer solutions and getting us out, keeping our water clean. Luke is in Owings Mills, you’re the most important guy in town this week, next to Lamar Jackson and the injury report brought to you by Cole roofing and Gordian energy, as we get our tech service out. I mean a lot to unpack with the NAM the Matta BK news, I guess the roquan Smith news is there. Some of this would have been speculative on Sunday night to say Nate Wiggins did look like he might want to play this week with the shoulder thing, or Marlon Humphrey was in the tent. So we’re watching all of this, but we’re wondering who’s going to be on the field this week, and the MATA BK thing, man, that thing is really taking a turn in 10 days, hasn’t it?
Luke Jones 01:42
Yeah. I mean, obviously John Harbaugh officially ruled him out for the year on Monday. That wasn’t shocking, but the follow up question, which I asked, and someone would have asked, because it’s a neck injury, was, you know, what can you share about his long term prognosis in terms of 2026 his football future, all of that. And John Harbaugh deferred to bat a BK on that, for him to speak on that which, at the very least, that tells you there’s uncertainty whether this is going to be a case of, does he have to undergo some kind of a surgery that he needs to continue his career, that he may need for a better quality of life, but could end his football career, right? I mean, I don’t want to speculate too much, but it was very evident that there is uncertainty about his future, right? I mean, and it has nothing to do with football, he’s a great player, right? He was still the Raven sack leader at this point in time for four games into the season, with him having not played the last two better hope he doesn’t need the team for the season. Well, sure, yeah. I mean two, two sacks that that would tell you that this year has completely gone off the
Nestor Aparicio 02:53
rails. I would settle for two pressures this week on the quarterback. Yeah.
Luke Jones 02:57
I mean, well, they’ve gotten some pressures, but not nearly enough sacks. But, you know, this is unfortunate. I mean, you’re talking about someone who’s 28 you know, who is has become one of the very best defensive tackles in the league, you know? I mean, it’s, it’s unfortunate, but at this point in time now you you have to move forward knowing you’re not going to have them this year, and we’re going to see what happens, you know, I’m not going to say he’s never going to play again. You know, obviously John Harbaugh deferred to him. It sounds like there’s some decisions, or perhaps some more opinions that need to be gathered in terms of what his long term prognosis does look like. You know, we saw him on the sideline in that Detroit Monday night game. You know, he’s upright and walking and everything. This isn’t like a catastrophic worst case scenario, but it can be, if you try to continue your career against the best opinions of doctors and everything. So this is tough. I mean, one thing that we talked about throughout the off season, I like their starting defensive line, but we talked about the depth factor. We talked about the fact that they did not draft a defensive lineman until the sixth round, Aeneas Peebles, despite the fact that this draft class was considered quite rich as it pertains to defensive linemen. So it was one of those spots where they didn’t have the most dynamic depth, or the deepest depth, as far as that position group. So you lose him. John Harbaugh did confirm Roderick Washington will be back, which I don’t think was shocking. You know, it was an ankle injury that he was on the field for the end of that Detroit game. So it’s not as though he, quote, left the game with an injury, so they will get him back, you know, a couple weeks after the by Travis Jones, I think has a good chance to play this week. I mean, he practiced last week, you know, before ultimately being inactive. So that that would lend you to believe that he’s not terribly far away. But, I mean, we talked. About this in the aftermath of the game, when you’re reaching for your roster to see who number 69 is, or who number 91 is, or, you know, in the case of Brent urban, you’re saying, hey, Brent urban is on the 53 I mean, that’s a lot, you know, when you’re playing the Kansas City Chiefs or anyone for that matter. I mean, you need, you need depth on your defensive line, and right now they don’t have that. So the matabique News, does that force the issue in terms of Eric Acosta taking a look at what could be out there via trade, I think it absolutely does. But when you’re talking about an infirmary report as lengthy as theirs is, right now, they’ve got to stabilize, you know, they’ve got to get some of these guys back healthy, and I think that can help inform you moving forward what you need to do. You know, you don’t want to necessarily make the first deal, but you’d like to make the best deal you can make between now and the trade deadline, while also understanding there’s some urgency at work here, when you’re one and three, right? I mean,
Nestor Aparicio 05:58
mada BK is never going to step on the field again, they’ve got a problem even beyond this year, right? Like they just
Luke Jones 06:05
well, and that’s and that, to me, is where the the trade factor becomes that much more interesting, because you’re talking about a position that, even if you say, All right, well, we’re going to draft a defensive tackle with our first round pick and all right, if this season goes off the rails, maybe you’ll be picking in the top half the first round, right? I mean, or you respond and then rebound and you’re picking later. But either way, generally speaking, defensive tackles aren’t plug and play to the degree that they’re going to necessarily make a huge impact right away. So that’s where I think the trade factor does become more interesting, but depending on who’s available, and it’s, you know, it’s week five, you’re not going to have too many teams out there that are full blown selling just yet. But if it’s someone that’s on the level of a matter BK, in some shape or form, are you willing to give up an early draft pick? Right? There are always guys to be had. If you want to give up fourth, fifth, sixth round picks, things of that nature. But if you want to go out and get a dude, are you willing to give up a first round a future first round pick or second round pick? I mean, obviously that’s well,
Nestor Aparicio 07:16
and these are also salary cap issues with a team that has a lot of dudes.
Luke Jones 07:20
Well, there’s that. And I mean, mada BK, if he has to retire, there’s still going to be cap ramifications for that, as far as how you have to handle that, you know, because you’re talking about an injury driven retirement, where he’s not just deliberately walking away, but he’s forced to walk away. So there are cap you know, there’s cap headaches with that when you’re talking about someone who’s only someone who’s only in the second year of a four year, what, $96 million contract, or whatever it, you know, just just south of 100 million. Off the top of my head, I can’t remember, as we’re speaking, but what is
Nestor Aparicio 07:55
it, $25 million a year player? Sure,
Luke Jones 07:57
yeah. I mean, we’re, you know, and you’re talking about a very dynamic football player. I mean, this is the stinks. I mean, it stinks for him. I’m, I’m happy he got paid, but it stinks for him, and it really stinks for the Baltimore Ravens, because this is a guy that has been extremely dynamic and what over going since the start of 2023 he has 21 and a half sacks. I mean, that’s, you don’t have too many interior defensive linemen
Nestor Aparicio 08:23
in the history of the game, the John Randy, a handful of guys. Hello. He was a little bit like that. But he wasn’t a sack machine, right?
Luke Jones 08:31
He was and generally speaking, even the ones who are that it’s, it’s not for a long period of time, I mean, and look, I mean, Madame BK had his career year, two years ago, he didn’t have as many sacks last year. We understand that, but there’s also a lot of nuance that goes into that, especially for interior guys, because it’s way easier to double team a defensive tackle and all of that. So, you know, it stinks. I mean, again, a four year 98
Nestor Aparicio 08:57
run better, right? Like, in a general sense, with Ray Lewis back in the glory era. It’s one thing having Sam Adams and Tony Sarah goose in front of you. It’s a whole lot different, if you don’t you know guys getting pushed around. It’s different up there. It’s all related, right? I mean, Kelly, Greg’s even like the lunch pail guys that were good three to five year players here between, let’s say, 25 and 30 years of age like you know, that’s kind of where that sweet spot is, and that’s why Matt abika this year and next year were poised to be the best two years they were going to get out of his career at a time when you have roquan, you have Kyle Hamilton coming on. You still have Marlon Umphrey ran. You have Lamar in his prime. You have the zay flowers in the likelies and these other guys working out into their presence. And I would say this for the defense, Luke and how the complimentary part of the football thing is losing the rush, losing the run game, you’d say, well, we got Lamar on offense. We’re good. And then the other side of the injury report, at least for this week, is the Lamar. Hamstring. Not good. The Ronnie Stanley thing, not good. In general, the offense hasn’t been good in general. When the offensive line has been healthy, they’ve struggled. Derrick Henry not touching the ball just there’s so much football. There’s so much meat on the bone with one and three, but the injury things all I can smell right now, because that’s not a one week thing or a two week thing. That’s a next five or six weeks thing. And when you’re one and three, there’s no covering up, you know, let’s be honest. They go three and three the next six games. That’s That’s good. That’s treading water for where they are, three and three, fine, all that, yeah. And then they’re wake up in their three and five, and that kind of stinks, well, or four and six, and six and that kind of stink.
Luke Jones 10:41
Sorry, yeah, yeah. I mean, the one thing I’d say, I mean, it’s really all about getting to the bye week as it pertains to the injuries, but splitting these two, making sure you’re not one in five, you need to try. Yes, you can’t be one in five, right?
Nestor Aparicio 10:56
This week’s got to be the one you win. Yeah, this, yeah, this is a better match up for you than the Rams coming in, sure.
Luke Jones 11:02
I mean, the rams have looked like one of the best teams in the NFC, one of the best teams in the NFL. Who’s gonna guard puka nakua, that’s what I want to know. I mean, they have Davante Adams as well, although he’s he’s been banged up here recently as well. So you never know. But, I mean, but
Nestor Aparicio 11:15
mismatches are a problem for this team right now, because they had special players for that purpose that had now have been relegated
Luke Jones 11:23
or or they have special players for that purpose who haven’t played very special in the case of Marlon Humphrey, who, you know, even before the calf injury on Sunday. I mean, we didn’t talk about it a whole lot, Kansas City went right after him. It was clear they saw what we saw in the first three games of the season that, I mean, Nestor, and, you know, I’ve been uh, higher on Marlon Humphrey as a player than most, even at times where, you know, two years ago, where he had some injuries and wasn’t playing at his absolute best.
Nestor Aparicio 11:53
I feel differently. I just so strongly dislike him as a person that I watch it from the outside and just say, I expect a lot out of you, dude, because you you run your mouth, you’ve been a complete jerk every time I’ve been in a room with you, when I witness it so like I look at him and say, the light’s a little brighter on you because of your position, because of your veteranness, because of the part of this where you’re supposed to be this special player, that when you fail to be that on an island for this team, and the ball is going over your head, and I do think he’s injured. I mean, as much as it is, what it is, I don’t he’s definitely injured. He’s injured. So, I mean, I can’t even pick on him about getting picked on, but I’m seeing what you’re seeing, which is the other coaches know what’s up, and he is a liability. Now he is a lie, as it currently stands. He’s a liability.
Luke Jones 12:47
I mean, he, I would, I would venture to say he was one of their absolute worst starting defensive players through the first three and a half games, right? Even, even before the calf injury on Sunday, he’s been that bad, and he was excellent last year, right? I mean, he was a Pro Bowl player again last year after 2023 was injury plagued. And, you know, we talked a lot about where he was so, you know, and not to pick on him too much, because he’s not alone. But they need their they need their stars to be stars, you know, especially when they’re on the football field. I mean, I don’t think roquan Smith’s been very good going back to last year, you know, relative to expectations, relative to contract. Well, you talked
Nestor Aparicio 13:25
about that the day he was signed. It was a lot of money for a linebacker, and that whole Ray Lewis level of expectation in modern football, and what was going to happen in their defense and the way they wanted to play, and who was next to him. I saw Patrick Queen making plays the other day, nine o’clock in the morning over London, and I’m thinking to myself, you know, you couldn’t pay them both. I get, I get all of that personnel standpoint, but it, it was a better defense here two years ago.
Luke Jones 13:50
It was but. But I would also venture to say, if you ask Pittsburgh fans, Patrick Queen hasn’t been great there either, so, and you would say, well, he’s not playing next to roquan Smith, so there’s a give, take and look. Let me be clear. I want to clarify, clarify, for anyone who’s listening, I’m not saying roquan Smith has been a bad football player going back to last year. I’m talking about what the play has been relative to the contract. And I think 2022 he was phenomenal when he arrived. That’s why they signed him to the deal they did. 2023 they had arguably the best defense in the NFL, certainly one of the best two or three defenses in the NFL, basically, by any metric you want to look at. Last year we saw what happened. Now he was better late in the year as the entire defense was, and this year it’s great against Joe Flacco and the Browns other three games of the season, not so much and but he’s
Nestor Aparicio 14:40
hurting his ear that whole day and all that. I would just say this with roquan Smith, and this is, this is what I said the day they dealt for him, right? I’m thumbs up on this with the Costa, I was like a brilliant move. You know, you got somebody’s lottery pick and didn’t have to give one up. Then you have to pay him. And then you and I talked about that. Value versus the cap. And at that time, they were still screwing around with Lamar. They didn’t have Lamar signed, and they were in the middle of all of that. And they give all this money to an outsider. And I said to you at the time, I’m like, it’s kind of weak if you have to import a heart transplant for your defense, that you have to get the bear star to come in and be your lion. You know what I mean, and I don’t know who their lion is. And we watched a lot of this with Ed Reed, Ray Lewis and Suggs vying for that role, playing that role where every imported guy they would bring in would come in here and say, there’s not a lot of oxygen. Even Dion, there wasn’t a lot of oxygen in the room when Ray Lewis was in the room. Because Ray Lewis was one of the greatest players ever. Players ever, one of the greatest leaders ever. We’ve seen all that, the dancing and all that. I didn’t expect that out of roquan, but I think there was a point where they brought him in, because Marlon Humphrey is a pretend leader, and completely a pretend leader. Anytime, Marlon Humphrey, Terrell Suggs was a pretend leader, too. So anytime that they tried to step into that role of alpha lion leadership thing, leading the little huddles and all of that stuff like, that’s so organic as to as far as to what that is. And we talk about the Orioles like, where’s the leadership in that? Who, who’s, who’s the clubhouse captain, who’s the Kevin Millar, who’s the cowboy up, who’s the straw that stirs the drink? Does it have to be a great player? Does it have to be an everyday player? And football does. And the roquan thing for me was always he was employed to fulfill that role from the outside in, and I thought he brought a lot. I mean, when he showed up, it felt like there was a different dude on campus. It really did. I mean, I felt that way. And I thought, well, they know what they know, and they know that they needed this piece, and they went and imported it because they couldn’t draft it. They weren’t bad enough to draft Rokon Smith, right? So bringing him in, I’m a couple of years into it. I’m a little disappointed with that part of the Tiger sauce to look at it and say, has he played to Ray Lewis? Well, come on, man, I wasn’t expecting that. Sure. I was expecting this cohesive part of I miss Patrick queen. I’m going to get Simpson to play better. I’m going to get Buchanan to play better the backside. I mean, Kyle Hamilton’s their leader, right? I mean, and he is so, yeah, quiet and so, uh, dignified, and so above the fray. And even he said something last week that the fans got all up in arms about, or whatever, but like, he’s the only guy in the locker room that showed up. I mean, I’m kicked out because they won’t let me, I don’t send you. So in Kansas City, they got John Jenkins stepping I mean, everybody is sneaking out the back door the way mark Andrews did, and that is, I’ll speak to leadership, and I’ll speak to Chad Steel’s arrogance and Eric decostas disappearance and John Harbaugh’s dishonesty, I’ll speak to all of that from the leadership and the Justin Tucker cover up and just all the crap that they do out there that’s awful. There is a point on the football side of it where I do look to the leadership and say, who’s running the place, who’s in charge of the place, who is getting guys on and off the bus, from a player standpoint, to stand because I saw Rob Woodson, I saw Shannon sharp, I saw Tony Sarah gusta. I’ve been around real men. I’ve been around leaders. I’ve seen it. I’ve been around a lot of these cats, and I’m watching from the outside. And this is one of my problems with the mancellino thing and the Elias thing that really rubbed me wrong. On Monday, my nose doesn’t smell any authenticity or any leadership. And for the Ravens right now, and I’ve been long winded about this, I would just say one in three who’s going to step up? And it ain’t roquan, because they playing this week, right? And it might not be Lamar, because he might not be playing this week. So who is going to come in and be a leader on the field. When Harbaugh has that bewildered look on the sideline to say, who’s who’s leading us, when the corners tapping his head and saying, I don’t know the play call, yeah, yelling from the backside, what are we in? What are we in? And the quarterbacks getting delayed games on the offensive side. I mean, dude, it’s nice. This whole thing, this whole thing is a house of cards from Sashi brown and the owner out on his yacht, and how people are treated in his building, how women are treated in his building. I’ve seen it. I know it all the way down, how I’ve been treated. And now they’re losing, and somebody better step up to stop the bleeding, beyond Kyle Hamilton being the only guy to show up in locker room after a loss to another loss to Patrick mahomes, and everybody’s hiding. And I guess I’ll defer and say, How’s Lamar? Because that’s really the only thing anybody tuning in this week. The only thing that matters is Lamar. Is playing on Sunday. They have a chance. If he’s not, they don’t, and all the rest of its eye wash at this point.
Luke Jones 20:06
Oh, I mean, we’re gonna find out. I mean, it’s, it’s certainly, and I’ll push back a little bit in saying, just don’t, you know, hack on how they treat women in their building. I’m not addressing that. Well, I will. I’ll be happy to I’m, I’m I’m talking, I’m trying to keep it on the field, Nestor,
Nestor Aparicio 20:23
but I think off the field leads the on the field a lot of ways, lot of ways. If they were, if they were that dysfunctional and they were that devoid of leadership, they wouldn’t be as good as they’ve been. But their leaders aren’t even going to the field this week. Is my point fair? That’s hard if we’re gonna Yeah, leaders haven’t been great leaders in that way, in that way,
Luke Jones 20:44
in what, what? Because they got hurt. No, when they lose,
Nestor Aparicio 20:47
they they’re not fair enough. Can’t be found. Well, that’s when I learned the most everybody i
Luke Jones 20:52
I’ll throw this out, and then I’m going to continue on with but find me the first post game loss quote from broke on Smith so far this year, and he was hurt Sunday, so, but he didn’t talk after Detroit. He didn’t talk
Nestor Aparicio 21:05
after Well, that’s not leadership anyway. So it’s not leadership that period. That’s why I go back to 22 and say when they brought him in, I thought he was a dude. It felt like a dude in the beginning.
Luke Jones 21:13
You know what? I would also say Ray Lewis was good for one of those a year too. And you know that Ray Lewis? There were times he, he’s he snuck out the back door a few times over the course of his career. Now, it wasn’t
Nestor Aparicio 21:24
every game that dude over 20 years. I can’t he did it a few. No. I mean, I, you know, I had my issues with Ray, but I go take that with Ray. I mean, Ray, for the most on time, Ray couldn’t talk. I understand. Show back up Tuesday morning and apologize for it, because Kevin Burns said, but I don’t, dude, come on, dude. I know, but, but I want
Luke Jones 21:41
to be historically Be a man. I want to be historically accurate. There were a few times over the years Ray Lewis did do that. But, yes, it was certainly a hand over. It was not in every every game thing. And by the way, roquan this year, he’s talked
Nestor Aparicio 21:57
after losses in the past. So Ray Lewis would stand in front of me as a man, and acknowledge it probably wasn’t. I also, I also want to, and I don’t think that Mark Andrews would even acknowledge that while he makes his USA ads.
Luke Jones 22:09
I also think we have to acknowledge leadership for a football team runs way beyond just talking to the media. It’s part of it, but it’s way much more than 100% much more than that
Nestor Aparicio 22:20
when Marlon Humphreys the team, because you can also have Instagram sticking it in guys faces, and they’re and they’re clearly like, Marlo, get your ass in the back and have some jello get out of here. You mean, like, I see all that they do in social media, and I just wonder where they’re Shannon sharp Stoney, Sarah gooses, where they’re they’re leader of men,
Luke Jones 22:41
kind of a different game now. I mean, I look, I feel the same way about some of the stuff that you see on social media or a player puts out a podcast the next day, and kind of is like, ho hum, we lost whatever. But I also think that’s some of that’s just generations change, right? I mean, it is, but
Nestor Aparicio 22:59
I love Kyle Hamilton, because I think it’s authentic. I don’t, and I feel that from the I don’t feel like there’s anything informative going
Luke Jones 23:05
on with you, you and I didn’t talk about it. But you know, the comments that he made last week, and he he addressed it right after the game and even apologized to fans. You know, he made a comment saying, you know, Ravens fans are a little he thinks Ravens fans are a little spoiled. Look his overall sentiment, if you actually want my honest opinion, I don’t know if I’d say it’s spoiled as much as I do think some Ravens fans have lost sight at times. I don’t think this is necessarily the time to point that out, because it has been that bad these last few weeks, but I think they have lost sight in recognizing how good they have had it over the last 25 years relative to most franchise and how hard it is to do Sure, no question so. But I think his word choice, it was the wrong time, the wrong messenger, the wrong place for that, and he apologized for it, and I think it’s fine,
Nestor Aparicio 23:58
and the fact that he I didn’t even mind it. I like that. I like that he’s authentic. I like that he’s the same guy all the time. Flacco to the end of the day. The reason I love him so much, always the same cat, you know what? Always the same guy. Win, lose. Interception, Super Bowl. MVP benched, passed over. 4121 Same, same. That’s leadership, that’s that’s why he’s still starting in the league, because it’s not the skills, it’s not and it doesn’t even necessarily mean to win. But there is a point where you want, that you want, that you need, that to win.
Luke Jones 24:36
You do. He’s, he might be the worst starting quarterback in the league at this 100% I don’t disagree. I mean, the if the Browns had any kind of anything at quarterback right now, browns would actually be interesting in this division, because their their defense is legit, but, but to bring it back to the ravens, yeah. I mean, this is when you find out. I mean, we’ve talked about this concept going back to 2019 Uh, and we’ve talked about this, and let me be clear, when I use this terminology, I think they’ve been a front runner kind of team, and what I mean by that is when things have gone well, and my goodness, save for the two years where Lamar got hurt. I don’t mean right now, because, you know, those two years where he had a season ending injury suffered in early December. I mean, when things are good, they’re real. They’ve been really good, right? That, as far as the regular season, the role that they’ve gotten on I mean, they had a 12 game winning streak in 2019 they did what they did in 2023 being the number one seed. When, when things are going well, they go really, really well.
Nestor Aparicio 25:43
Well, in September and October, November, December, they go well into the third week of January. And then when they go bad, then what happens here, dude, they don’t know how to lose a spoiled Yeah. I mean, the fan base is spoiled, but so is the organization, in that the organization doesn’t know how to handle turmoil and
Luke Jones 26:01
and I think problems, I think where the question comes, you know, and you just alluded to it, where what they’re dealing with right now, as far as like, they lose their aura, they really get their feelings hurt. That’s generally speaking, happened in January. There’s no coming back from that until the following season, when it happens in January, right? Your season just ends. I think the difference that we’ve seen and look, they’ve lost games, obviously they started, oh and two last year. But the Owen to last year is way different than what this one in three is, right now, the Owen to last year was you lost in Kansas City by a toenail. You know, as far as having a chance to to win the game at the end and the following week, it was that weird, fluky ravens beat themselves, kind of thing, right? This year, there are three losses. Ravens collapsed in the fourth quarter, week one against buffalo. We’ve seen that, right? We’ve seen that story. We talked about that a lot in week one and week two, as far as just that kind of a loss, feeling like that’s happened too many times. That wasn’t what happened against Detroit. Detroit. It was a tight, you know, it was close game into the third quarter. Detroit really handled them over the final two quarters of that football game, and then what happened in Kansas City? I mean, even before the injuries that was trending towards, they just got their butts kicked. I mean, point blank, there’s no ravens beating the Ravens. Last two weeks, they got beaten by teams that were better than them. I mean, Detroit, I think, is better than them overall. In Kansas City, despite the fact they had a one and two record as well, they showed their championship medal. They and it helped getting Xavier worthy back. There’s no question about that.
Nestor Aparicio 27:45
It also more off the field, getting Ronnie Stanley off the field, roquans off the field, Marlins.
Luke Jones 27:51
Yeah, of course. I mean, well, it’s why I wrote this, why I picked Kansas City. They were healthier. They were healthier, they’re more experienced, they’re a smarter football team, all of that. But what’s that they were home. Oh, yeah, yeah. Sorry, I didn’t hear what you said. Well, I mean, the whole part that the Ravens were favored on the road is like, sort of, okay, they won this game ever, right? Well, that, and that’s I said it to you in the aftermath. That’s where I was. And I don’t even think it was so much locally, but I think so many of the national pundits that just picked games, I was, like, shocked. How many were picking the Ravens that you’re giving the Ravens all this benefit of the doubt, yet you’re quick to bury Kansas City. That felt a little backwards to me. Not that, not that the Ravens going into the game should have been buried.
Nestor Aparicio 28:32
The Kansas City stunk all last year, and almost went and went to the Super Bowl. Had a chance. Yeah, you know, like,
Luke Jones 28:38
You mean they stunk going 15 and two.
Nestor Aparicio 28:41
They stunk all year last year, went to the and that that’s why they shouldn’t be any good this year, like now you’re talking about being spoiled. Oh my god, yeah, City fans, if they don’t go out and win 40 to 20 every week, the sky’s falling in Kansas
Luke Jones 28:55
City well, and I think you’re starting to see that transfer over to Philadelphia a little bit in the way that, no, in the way that the Eagles are winning games, but they’re not necessarily the most esthetically pleasing way that they’re winning. I mean, I mean, obviously the post game chatter was, you know, they targeted AJ Brown, a bunch, but he had, what, two catches for seven yards, or whatever it was. And, you know, he he puts a quote on social media that indicates he’s not the happiest, and everyone’s like, well, you know, Philly, all they want all these games. So, I mean, I what it’s like up to, like, 18 of 19 or 19 of 20. Count the postseason. I don’t know.
Nestor Aparicio 29:26
Champion, you’re in first place. Shut up, dude.
Luke Jones 29:28
No, no, no. I mean, this is how everyone else perceives it, like not even, not even Philadelphia fans themselves. I think it’s more just like how the football world perceives it up. I mean, two years ago. I mean, this is why I said, with the Ravens being one in three, it’s obviously so much more magnified when a team starts one in three, compared to losing three out of four in November or December like the Chiefs did two years ago, right? I mean, everyone was ready to bury them. Oh, it’s the Ravens year. Kansas City’s so down they’re probably not even going to win their first playoff game. And then before you know it. You know, they’re, they’re beating the Ravens in Baltimore to go back to the Super Bowl. So, but to bring it back to the ravens, we’re going to find out about this leadership. Because this is, this is rare territory for this group at this point in a season. And again, I get it. People will say, well, they started, oh, and two last year. The eyeball test is different. The optics of this, how it feels, is way different than how last year felt. And now you take all these injuries into account, which look, Matt abika aside, these aren’t long term injuries. I mean, you know, the NFL Network reported roquan Smith has a great two hamstring strength. Okay, he’s he’s going to miss at least the next two games. They have the bye week. You’ll see where they are at that point, and maybe he has to miss one more after that. But the point is, they haven’t suffered eight season ending injuries. We’re not at that kind of a level. They lose the
Nestor Aparicio 30:51
next two weeks. They’re one and five at the by getting roquan back, getting, you know, whoever they would get back at that point, they just, they got two hours of football here the next two weeks to keep the season alive and not have it really,
Luke Jones 31:07
I mean, not be in a position where you’re talking about in the terms that we talked about, the Orioles and beginning Cooper
Nestor Aparicio 31:12
rush plays on Sunday, and they lose 23 to 16 to Houston at home. What are we talking about on Monday.
Luke Jones 31:21
How’s lamar’s health? I mean, like, we’re talking about lamar’s health, but what are we talking about?
Nestor Aparicio 31:26
We talking about, how do they get to 10 and seven? Like, is that what we’re talking about?
Luke Jones 31:30
Might be, yeah, might be at that point, well, but, but I would also say, you know, do you think Pittsburgh’s going to be much better than that? I mean, I, I don’t think Pittsburgh bad, let me be clear. But I can’t say. I’ve said I sit here and I’ve been overwhelmed by what I’ve seen from them. You know, Cincinnati showed you who they were once again on Monday night, got got their butts kicked. All the talk about Jake Brown, and even from guys like me, who thought, Oh, he’s pretty good backup quarterback, hasn’t looked that way this year.
Nestor Aparicio 31:57
Well, let’s go through it for this week in the injury report, just because we’ll, we’ll get to get back together later in a week. I have all these Houston guests coming to Luke Jones is here. He’s Baltimore, Luke. We’re going to be at fatalities on Wednesday. Brought to you by the Maryland lottery house, Raven scratch offs as well. Lamar, Ronnie, Stanley, Marlon Humphrey. We already know roquan is not playing.
Luke Jones 32:15
Marlon Humphreys not playing either. I mean, Marlon Humphrey has a calf injury. I think that you know the initial report from Ian Rappaport was a couple weeks. I mean, that takes you to the bye week.
Nestor Aparicio 32:27
Okay, so Marlon, Humphrey, roquan Smith, Matt abika, there’s $75 million worth of player on your defense, Lamar, $50 million player. Ronnie Stanley, another 20, 25 million on the left side, yeah. So we’re talking about $150 million worth of their players that aren’t going to be on the field this week. And then we’re talking about who is on the field and whether Derek Henry can be effective, or what this means for Tyler, Linder bomb or the other good or what it means for zay flowers to be running around hoping Cooper rush can throw the ball to him, or Isaiah likely getting back on the field, or Kyle van Noy getting back on the field, you know, these or even Travis Jones trying to get the other guys back. I wonder how much that matters when the six Highest Paid guys on your team aren’t going to make the field this
Luke Jones 33:14
week. Well, I mean, you’re going to play the game either way, right? I mean, you’re going to roll the ball out and you’re going to play. They’re not postponing the game. So I hear you, believe me, I do. At the same time, the Houston Texans are one in three. Houston Texans haven’t been very good. They have their issues. Now, that doesn’t mean that I can sit here with a high degree of confidence if Cooper Rush is starting at quarterback, but you also do have a lot of other good football players who are healthy on Sunday, so that’s where you need to lean into that. I mean, we’re going to find out. You know, I don’t think Lamar is dealing with a major hamstring injury here, but, you know, it’s a hamstring. And you know, generally speaking, if you leave a game with the hamstring, the following game is in jeopardy. Now, maybe he gets treatment, and maybe by, I don’t know, Thursday or Friday. He’s on the practice field, and looks okay. And they were being extra, extra cautious when they pulled him from the Kansas City game. And then he’s, you know, then he’s playing,
Nestor Aparicio 34:12
he will not be able to run a full speed on Sunday, based on ice. And so the fact that he doesn’t have that part of his game, you know, that’s just the most special part of his game that you really change what they can even if he’s on the field, he’s not Lamar anymore, he’s
Luke Jones 34:29
if he’s nowhere close to the to that, then he shouldn’t be out there, because that means there’s a high setback risk, which, as much as you want and even feel you Need to win this game if it’s at the expense of Lamar having a braid two hamstring or something worse than that, and he’s out two months, then your season is shot. So that’s what I where I said there’s a fine balance here with some of these injuries right now, where you know you have the bye week coming up in a couple of weeks that will. To afford a respite and a chance for guys to heal and to feel better about the health of your football team coming on the other side of that. But if you’re one in five, I mean, it’s not over, but it’s ov, ov with half an E, you know that you would need to get on an absolute roll at that point in time to even just, you know, to be, have a chance to win the division and be the number four seed or something
Nestor Aparicio 35:27
like that. When you’re one and three, the only game that matters is this week is one and four is just not but we’re all different level of one and four trying to make the playoffs. But you have to, but you have to be
Luke Jones 35:37
realistic about where guys are from a health standpoint, if Lamar, if it’s not smart putting them out there, then you can’t put them out there. I mean, you can’t because it’s not week 18, right? I mean, if
Nestor Aparicio 35:46
it’s you’ll see that right away. If he can’t move. I mean, you know, the eye in the sky doesn’t lie on that first set of downs. He fades back to you’ll see it on Friday in practice out there.
Luke Jones 35:56
That’s also where you have to look at this and say, you signed Cooper rush at the start of free agency. He wasn’t someone you signed in June because there was no one better in your mind out there. Tim, yeah, you picked him Now that said, I don’t have a high degree of confidence in him, in the way that I wouldn’t have a high degree and confidence in Tyler Huntley. Or if you know when Matt Schaub filled in for Joe Flacco and then Jimmy Clawson and Ryan Mallett and Iraq Taylor, I Rod Taylor before that. I mean, they’re backup quarterbacks for a reason. There aren’t 32 quality starters, let alone talking about these backups that you’re suddenly going to feel great about. But I will say this if there’s one. I don’t even want to say silver lining, because that, you know, it sounds disingenuous to say that, but, you know, maybe I say it in jest. Let’s say if there’s a silver lining, if Lamar Jackson doesn’t have to, can’t play on Sunday, man, you have no excuse not to get Derrick Henry the ball and to get Justice Hill the ball. And you know what? Let’s, let’s take Keith Mitchell out of the garage and see what that Ferrari looks like at this point in time. And you go, 2008 or 2018
Nestor Aparicio 37:04
you know, whichever version of the original, and follow lay lay and and you know the front line
Luke Jones 37:09
somebody, you gotta put it on somebody. Like, someone’s gotta win. Like, if Lamar is not out there, what you’re just gonna forfeit. You know what I mean. Like, you gotta go play. You gotta adapt. You’ve gotta figure it out again. The Houston Texans are not a juggernaut. Don’t. Don’t, get me wrong, don’t, don’t misconstrue. Don’t confuse that with me saying that, that they’re not capable of beating the Ravens. I mean, you know, they’re capable of beating the Ravens with Lamar, if the Ravens aren’t going to play well, if they’re going to play like they played the last couple weeks overall, their offense has been terrible. But at the same time. So anyone was saying about Kansas City, and, my goodness, the Ravens defense made Kansas City look like the 2018 chiefs all of a sudden, where they’re chucking the ball all over the field and guys running wide open, and mahomes Throwing four touchdowns. So you know, this is gut check time, you know? And obviously Lamar, Lamar status, is the headliner. But if you, when you sign Cooper, rush the idea, the thought with any backup that is worth anything at all is, what if your starter has to miss a few weeks, you know, two or three week injury, can they win us a game or two?
Nestor Aparicio 38:19
If they can’t even do that, then they give us a chance to win. I mean, I watched Browning run around the other night with the bangles, and I’m like, he looked okay a couple years ago because he had better talent around him. Oh my god. I mean, you give a quarterback No no, no running game and no protection, just
Luke Jones 38:33
completely neglected their offensive line. And it’s part of the reason why Joe burrows hurt. It’s why this is why I wasn’t even high on Cincinnati before he got hurt because they they don’t know what they’re like. They don’t know what they’re doing. In terms of having a playoff caliber team, which, I mean, they made it to a Super Bowl four years ago, but in terms of taking the next step, building, sustaining, evolving Cincinnati’s clueless on. That’s why they had that’s why they had these windows. But then it ends like it just ends. Whereas teams like the ravens, current state of affairs aside, adapt and evolve, and they make difficult decisions on certain players, but then they add other guys, right? And you augment and all
Nestor Aparicio 39:14
those different that’s why the Eagles and the Steelers, there’s been consistency in some of these organizations. The Seahawks had it for a long time with Phil with Pete Carroll Sure, well, looks like they might
Luke Jones 39:23
be getting it with Mike McDonald, who’s looking pretty, pretty promising right now, which I’m sure Ravens fans unhappy with John Harbaugh, but we’ll be quick to note that but, but I think if you’re talking about a Lamar Jackson less ravens on Sunday, you need to get the running game, going and going at a high degree, at a high level. I mean, Derrick Henry played his entire career without Lamar Jackson, until last year, and he was still a 2000 yard rusher and played with some okay Tannehill was good for a couple of years, but he played with some nondescript, lesser quarterbacks, and he still put up huge numbers. So why can’t you do that on Sunday? If Lamar can’t play your defense, that’s that’s where it’s trickier, right? I mean, as much as CJ Stroud and that Texans offense have, they’ve been pretty punchless as a unit, I guess, until they face the hapless Tennessee Titans this past Sunday. But well, who’s going to be out there for the Ravens. I mean, I mean, we talked about it in the aftermath. I mean, Zach or Chuck Pagano, John Harbaugh, you know, I think we need to put more on John Harbaugh as it pertains to the defense. I mean, he’s a secondary coach. I mean, if you want to talk special teams, yes, that that was his forte for most of his coaching career before he arrived in Baltimore, but he also coached secondary that. In fact, that’s what he did his final year in Philadelphia. So John Harbaugh’s in on that too. In terms of, given the personnel you have right now, as messy as it is, as deficient as it is in certain areas, what can you do in terms of putting together a game plan that can get you playing functional defense. We’re not talking about the 2000 ravens or the 2003 ravens, or even the 2023 ravens, for that matter. But can you devise a defense, a defensive scheme, a game plan that, with factoring in your personnel and its limitations on either talent or experience, give yourself a defense that at least gives you a higher floor than what you showed last week.
Nestor Aparicio 41:25
The hardest part is moving parts, and you know that, and communicating without robion Smith and then Marlin on the back end, knowing you’re going to get beaten up front, knowing you’re not going to have the pass rush you need to have.
Luke Jones 41:36
I’ll give you one right now, that I think needs to happen. And this is easier said than done, because I’m not sure exactly who goes into his current spot. I think they need to get Kyle Hamilton back at the nickel one look. I thought Keon Martin did some nice things as an undrafted rook. He had a couple plays where he looked like an undrafted rookie as well, filling in for Marlon Umphrey. But I think, and it’s risky, because I don’t know if Malachi Starks and Sanusi Kane who would be the replacement, and I’m implying you would go to more three safety nickel and three safety dime, but one with with roquan out Hamilton, presumably will be the green dot helmet guy who’s relaying the defensive signals. Pre snap two, I think it just enables you to play him closer to the line of scrimmage more consistently and maybe get a few more splash plays. Look, this defense is going to give up yards and points as it’s presently constructed. We all know that. But can you get a little more variance in there? Look in the way. Look how the bills play defense. The bills give up points. We saw that in week one, right? But they also make some really big plays at some critical times. They have a dynamic factor to them that, frankly, the ravens, even last year, when they were playing well down the stretch, didn’t have, well, you don’t set the
Nestor Aparicio 42:54
quarterback and you don’t take the ball away. It’s tough. So that’s right, the thing they’ve had is they stopped the run. The rate, right? If you stop the run, put you in bad down in distance and get you off, beat you on third down, and get you off the field, your head on third down, that’s a problem.
Luke Jones 43:09
So, so that’s where it’s risky. Look, I can’t sit here with any high degree of confidence and say that if you put Sanusi Kane and Malachi Starks as your deep safeties, that there isn’t going to be a ball that gets thrown over their heads, but at the same time, their defense has been bad. With Kyle Hamilton being back in that spot, not that he’s been bad, specifically, although he hasn’t been, you know, Detroit, he wasn’t good. No one was good in that second half for their D what’s more disruptive when he’s up on the line? I just think, yeah, I almost feel like you’re in a position like, Okay, you like him at that spot, but he’s not able to be as dynamic. You need, man. You need some higher variance. You need some good things that can happen. Maybe in the midst of, okay, you might give up 24 or 27 points. But if you can force two takeaways in the process, then that might be a different animal than All right, maybe holding them to 20. To 20 points, but we don’t do any of that. So, you know, it’s tough, I mean, and part of this is also, and we’ve talked about this. We talked about this even before. You know, Lamar left with the hamstring injury, and now we’re talking about the Ravens offense. Yeah, we’ve talked about their offense. Look their third in the league in scoring. It’s not as though the offense has been terrible all the time in its totality, but situationally speaking, whether we’re talking about red zone, whether we’re talking about goal to go, whether we’re just talking about high leverage in the fourth quarter, they have been very, very lacking in that situational kind of football. So if you’re talking about where they stand right now, whether Lamar is out there or not, how much would it behoove you to be able to run the ball better? Run the ball, more sustain drives, a little bit more doesn’t mean that everyone’s going to end in a touchdown. But do that get your play count up on offense? Because if you get your play. Count on offense. What happens to your snap count on defense. That goes down right if you can control the clock a little bit better, and yes, you still have to score points like you don’t want seven minute drives, and then you miss a field goal, or you punt from your, you know, from the 46 or something like that. But if you can sustain and play a little bit more bully ball. I know they’re not optimized right now to do that, especially if Stanley’s not out there, but as I pointed out to you, in the aftermath of the, you know, the post game and the loss, they played without Ronnie Stanley a lot over the last five years, and they’ve had times where they’ve played well without him. So that can’t just be an excuse to just throw up your hands and say, Oh, it’s over. So they need to devise, you know, especially if it’s Cooper rush, that you run the ball. You run the ball a lot with Derrick, Henry Justice Hill, and, like I said, Throw Keaton Mitchell into the mix. It’ll it’ll quiet down. Some fans have been clamoring for that. And you know, if you’re Cooper rush, you need to use some quick game, get the ball out quickly because your pass protection. I mean, I think they should have been doing more of that, even with Lamar these last couple of weeks. Where’s, where’s the adjustment been there? Todd monkin, in terms of handling the Blitz and the pass rush and and everything that they’ve been facing and struggling to handle, but quick game and play action, and if you can run the ball 40 times at a successful rate. You know, at least four and a half yards a carry, let’s say. And which that shouldn’t be, that shouldn’t be unreasonable with Derrick Henry. And you know the this, you know this group of running backs that they have, if you can do that, and you can ask Cooper rush to throw 15 or 20 times, right?
Nestor Aparicio 46:43
Saying Cooper rush, you think he’s playing, right?
Luke Jones 46:46
Well, I don’t know. I honestly don’t know, because, but if Lamar plays, it’ll be a diminished version of Lamar, right? I mean some to some degree. But, like I said, it can’t be too but
Nestor Aparicio 46:57
you say you want to run the ball, you want to run the ball, that usually means Lamar eight to 12 times that that’s not part of running the ball for me on Sunday, if he plays
Luke Jones 47:06
fair enough well, but that’s also why you got Derek, Henry. I mean, what’s wild? It’s funny. Someone pointed this out to me. I hadn’t fully realized it, but I’m gonna, I’m gonna leave you with one stat, and then, you know, we’ll reconvene as we get into the practice week, and we’ll see we always do, especially when it’s troubled times. Yeah, yeah, no question. But what’s wild to me is, through four weeks, guess where the Baltimore Ravens rank in rushing attempts. Just take a guess, 26th, 30th, Okay, guess where they rank in yards per carry, third, first, first.
Nestor Aparicio 47:46
Okay, and yes, they’ve had, they’ve broken some long runs that do mess with that. But isn’t that also the argument for not giving up on it? So and look, you know me, if Derek, if they have 40 carries, and two of them, mean, Derek Henry ran for 31 yards and 26 yards, you know. And two of those runs that move the field into a field, you move them across the yard line. If that happens twice on 21 carries on Sunday, you know, that’s good.
Luke Jones 48:18
That’s now, you also don’t want 80% of your carries to be one yard gains either, right? 12, sure, sure. So there’s a happy medium there. But my goodness, if there was a week that it calls for, I mean, if you’re not going to ramp up your running game, even if Lamar plays running game, and I agree with you, no, you’re not going to have Lamar be a heavy part of that if, even if he does play. But, man, if you can’t do it now, considering their their needs and where they stand as a football team, health wise, and doing whatever we can on offense, besides just scoring points to help your defense and to try to keep that your defense off the field as much as you can then, man, I don’t know moving well,
Nestor Aparicio 48:58
it’s going to be winning ugly the next couple of weeks.
Luke Jones 49:00
Oh, no doubt. And, and let’s be clear. And I know it’s, you know, truly, my last point here, just win no matter how it looks, whether Lamar is on the field or not, whether Ronnie Stanley’s on the field or not, whether any of these guys are on the field or not, you’ve just got to find a way. You absolutely have to find a way. And you know, then you you do if you could do that, then guess what? Then you’ll talk about the LA Rams and the task of that, you get to be two and three, hopefully get a couple guys back healthy that can help you there. But it’s all eyes on the Houston Texans and certainly, all eyes on the injury report these next few days, that’s for sure,
Nestor Aparicio 49:39
all eyes on crab cakes. For me. I’m going to be down at fadely. On Wednesday, I’m going to be a Costas and I’m wearing my Costa shirt in Timonium. On Monday, we will have a raven scratch offs to give away. These are the Ravens x2 scratch offs, $20,000 top prize, beautiful matted tickets. I will have them all throughout the fall. And of course, we have our curio tastiness now. Down to number one, which was the peach cake at Fenwick bakery. I hope you check it all out at Baltimore positive, all of that brought to you by curio wellness and far and daughter, I’ve been chasing Wendy brown final round to get her on the show this week as well. We have the infirmary Report, brought to you by our friends at cole roofing and Gordian energy. If you’re on the wnst tech service, you will get that first, our friends at GBMC have been spicing things up around here in regard to health and keeping us healthy. Out here in Baltimore County, had a little no sniffle this week, so I was like, whoa. I gotta check that out. I haven’t a cold in a long time. I’ve been bragging about that. I’m hanging in. Everybody else is sick with the Ravens. I need to be well for Sunday at one o’clock Houston, Texans are in town, Luke and I gotta talk some Oriole baseball on the backside of the Elias mancellino press conference on Monday. Busy week. Busy busy week. Welcome to October. I am Nestor. He is Luke. We are W, N, S T. Am 1570 Towson, Baltimore. We never stopped talking Baltimore. Positive. You.























