Longtime NFL insider and Gainesville bagel maker Jason Cole returns to discuss the gamble of trusting league injury reports, the return of Lamar Jackson and future of Ravens with Nestor over some memories of the Super Bowl glory of Joe Flacco.
Nestor Aparicio and Jason Cole discussed the Baltimore Ravens’ current state, focusing on the team’s defense, which Cole described as the most vanilla and unenergetic in 25 years. They highlighted the lack of a pass rush and the impact of injuries to key players like Lamar Jackson. Cole expressed concern about the Ravens’ ability to win in January, citing the defense’s flaws and Jackson’s potential limitations. They also touched on the NFL’s handling of injury reports and the influence of gambling on team strategies. Cole mentioned his new bagel shop in Gainesville, Florida, and his admiration for Lamar Jackson’s overachiever mentality.
Nestor Aparicio’s Introduction and Segment Overview
- Nestor Aparicio welcomes listeners to WNST AM 1570, mentioning the short week for football and the long week for the World Series and baseball hirings.
- He highlights the upcoming locations for crab cakes and mentions the Maryland lottery.
- Nestor introduces Jason Cole, a longtime NFL insider, and discusses the history of the Ravens, including the Matt Ryan interview and the Super Bowl win.
- He references the firing of the offensive coordinator and the hiring of Jim Caldwell, noting the team’s response to winning a Super Bowl.
Discussion on the Ravens’ Defense and Injuries
- Jason Cole and Nestor discuss the current state of the Ravens’ defense, describing it as the most vanilla and unenergetic in 25 years.
- They mention the lack of a pass rush and the impact of losing key players like Matt Judon and Marlon Humphrey.
- Jason Cole compares the current defense to the championship teams of the past, highlighting the importance of defensive linemen like Sam Adams and Suggs.
- They discuss the trade for Kyle Hamilton and the team’s reliance on a nickel base defense.
Injury Reports and Gambling in the NFL
- Nestor and Jason Cole discuss the impact of injury reports on defenses and the design to play offenses.
- They express frustration with the NFL’s handling of injury reports and the influence of gambling on the league.
- Jason Cole explains how gambling creates a demand for accurate information and the potential for insiders to influence the market.
- They discuss the NFL’s efforts to control information and the potential consequences for teams that mislead about player injuries.
John Harbaugh and the Ravens’ Management Style
- Nestor and Jason Cole discuss John Harbaugh’s management style and his tendency to push the limits.
- They mention the paranoia within the Ravens’ organization and the team’s willingness to lie to win.
- Jason Cole believes that Harbaugh’s actions could lead to serious consequences from the NFL, including the loss of a draft pick.
- They discuss the potential impact of the NFL’s investigation on the Ravens and the broader implications for the league.
Jason Cole’s New Venture: The Bagel Bakery
- Jason Cole shares his new venture, a bagel shop in Gainesville, Florida, called the Bagel Bakery.
- He explains the shop’s history, its community involvement, and the quality of their bagels and coffee.
- Nestor and Jason discuss the potential for Nestor to visit the Bagel Bakery and explore the Tom Petty trail in Gainesville.
- Jason mentions the upcoming Penny Fest and invites Nestor to visit the shop and enjoy a pumpkin Bundt cake.
Lamar Jackson and the Ravens’ Future
- Nestor and Jason Cole discuss Lamar Jackson’s potential to win a championship and the challenges the Ravens face this season.
- Jason Cole expresses concern about the team’s defense and the impact of injuries on Lamar Jackson’s performance.
- They compare Lamar Jackson to other quarterbacks like Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen, noting his strengths and weaknesses.
- Jason Cole believes that Lamar Jackson’s career may be limited by his reliance on his legs and the potential for injuries.
Historical Context and Comparisons
- Nestor and Jason Cole draw parallels between Lamar Jackson and other quarterbacks who missed opportunities to win championships.
- They mention historical examples like Bert Jones, Randall Cunningham, and Dan Marino, highlighting the challenges of winning in the NFL.
- Jason Cole emphasizes the importance of maximizing talent and overcoming flaws in a player’s game.
- They discuss the potential for Lamar Jackson to achieve success in the future, despite the current challenges.
Final Thoughts and Future Plans
- Nestor and Jason Cole wrap up their discussion, with Jason Cole reiterating his admiration for Lamar Jackson and the Ravens’ organization.
- They discuss the potential for the Ravens to win the division and the importance of the defense improving.
- Jason Cole shares his excitement about the Bagel Bakery and the potential for future visits from Nestor.
- They conclude with a light-hearted discussion about crab cakes and the possibility of Nestor visiting Gainesville for the Tom Petty trail.
SUMMARY KEYWORDS
Ravens defense, Lamar Jackson, injury report, NFL insider, Jason Cole, bagel bakery, Gainesville, defensive line, pass rush, John Harbaugh, gambling, point spread, playoffs, Super Bowl, football history.
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SPEAKERS
Jason Cole, Nestor Aparicio
Nestor Aparicio 00:01
Welcome home. We are W, N, S, T. Am 1570 to Baltimore. We are Baltimore positive in a short week for football around here, long week for World Series and baseball hirings and a new Orioles manager, and always in for crab cakes. We’re having two locations next week. This week, we are at state fair on Tuesday. It’s all brought to you by the Maryland lottery. I will have Raven scratch offs to give away. Had a lucky batch at a Costas and simonium Last week, where we were joined by the great Dave shining talking some baseball from the Washington Post. You’ll hear that this week, Brian frosh, our former Attorney General, talking about the Constitution and emoluments clauses and why you can’t, just like, wipe out the East Wing of the White House, amongst other things. This guy is politically active, but they’re more active usually when Cal and Stanford are playing on a football game or that sort of thing, or when he wants to come and debate various football things with me. He is a football historian. He has voted on the Pro Football Hall of Fame for a long, long time. And the word out of Gainesville, Florida, is that he makes a hell of a bagel as well. Jason Cole is our defending champion of all things offense, defense, and I just want you to know, Cole, I’m going to give a chance to promote your bagels in a minute. But when I saw Matt Ryan interviewing Joe Flacco on the field, as Flacco was about to play in a Bengals uniform, and I had to break out Purple Rain. Two, to go back to all of my draft coverage from oh eight, about how the Ravens really wanted Matt Ryan, and it worked out okay with Joe, and Joe’s got a ring and Matt Ryan doesn’t. And you and I are probably sitting 50 feet apart when Matt Ryan screwed that up along with the Falcons. But I did go back right here, page 343, in the Opus Iliad that is Purple Rain two, and there it is, dancing on the edge of chaos. That was December 10, 2012 that was a question posed by you in a Super Bowl year. So when the team was one in five, I thought, I got to call Cole we got to talk about what dancing on the edge of chaos really is around here?
Jason Cole 02:02
Well, that’s the we’re at that point there, when, at that moment in time, they did respond by winning a Super Bowl. So the edge went towards greatness, so
Nestor Aparicio 02:13
8Well, that’s why there was written about it. You know, when you fire, I know you showed up. They fired the offensive coordinator Christmas week. That’s where that reference comes from, correct?
Jason Cole 02:22
Oh, absolutely. Yeah, it’s, it’s, and hired Jim, yes, put Caldwell in charge, yeah, got rid of cam Cameron, brought in Jim Caldwell, and all of a sudden, magic happened when they got serious, which was great for them. This is a little different situation. Well, different situation like, like, this is the tools of a great team still exist here. Is it going to happen this year? Probably not. Think that the Zach Orr experience right now, I have questions about because I think their defense, this is the, this is the most vanilla, unenergetic ravens defense I’ve ever seen in 25 years. Is that maybe 26 years? Well, I go back to
Nestor Aparicio 03:14
listen. I go back to Ray dancing and setting the place on fire before it begins. Now, we’ve had fans pile out of that stadium the last couple of weeks, that whole defensive mojo of we’re going to get after your quarterback. We’re going to give you hell on four downs if you decide to go that far, the pass rush isn’t coming. Jay, I mean, and I don’t know what Decosta would have up his sleeve for deals or draft picks or where they would be, but I know the way they think, and they think they’re going to win the division at nine and eight and then go raise hell in January. Because, as you pointed out, they got a lot of good football players here.
Jason Cole 03:47
They have really good football players. They have the most, again, the least active defense I have ever seen from a rate, from a Ravens outfit. I’ve just I’ve never seen one that does not is not acting, especially along the defensive line. I mean, you go back to the championship days, yeah, Sam Adams and Sarah goosa. Yeah. I know everybody talks about Ray and the past rush, but the real key to that that that first championship team with that great ravens defense was Adams and Sarah goosa had career years at the same time. So you took two guys who were who are incredible talents, and have them play at the top of their ability for an entire season, right? So they were amazing that year, on top of the fact that she had Ray Lewis, you had bullware and, you know, you had Rob Burnett, yeah, really deep defensive line. You had a really deep secondary, you know, like that was a great, great defense, and that set the tone for an era, you know, like that. They have lived off that, that for 25 years, and now we get to this year, and I the first three weeks of the season, I don’t recognize anything. You. About what used to transpire for the for what was a Ravens defense. And I don’t know if it’s Zach or because I’m not there every day. I’m not there at all, and I don’t know you know what the plan is, but they’re not good, and I know they don’t have a lot of star defensive lineman, but they have quality depth on defensive line that they should be better than this.
8Nestor Aparicio 05:23
Well, they thought that when they lost matabiki, that’s a nightmare. See, they lost Matt, roquan, Marlon, Humphrey, were all gone, not to mention Lamar on the offensive side the last couple three
Jason Cole 05:35
weeks before all those guys I’m talking about week one in week two.
Nestor Aparicio 05:40
Well, then they dealt away away to pick up a safety, because inherently, Jay, you know, they wanted to move Kyle Hamilton back to being in a game wrecking position and not playing as a traditional safety. The only way to do that was to get a real safety. So they’ve sort of traded away for Hamilton, they’re never in base. Their base is a nickel in a general sense. And you know, they’re really missing our Darius Washington, that they’ve had to make amends for that, but they have nobody rushed the quarterback. I’m in agreement with you, right?
Jason Cole 06:15
8And they don’t do the things that fake it, if that makes like when Rex Ryan, who was one of the former defensive coordinators, didn’t have great defensive lineman. I’m not talking and I’m talking generally like, whether he was in Baltimore or with the Jets, or wherever he was, if you’re lacking great defensive lineman, what do you do? You answer by doing, you know, shenanigans up front. You run twists, you run stunts, you run overload blitzes. You just you change the numbers up front to cause havoc and confusion. You know, you dance on the edge of chaos with your with your fronts when you lack talent. So what I see is, okay, we’re going to line up and just get, try and get after the quarterback without doing a lot of exotic stuff. And again, I don’t know if that’s Zach or or some philosophy thing, but for the Yeah, and I haven’t watched the last two weeks, I’m just gonna be I, I have watched other teams because I’m not really concerned with where the ravens are right now, you know, especially when Lamar is hurt like, you know, they’re, they’re, they’re going to struggle without him. So I haven’t watched him on defense a lot, but when they were healthier at the beginning of the year, I didn’t, just didn’t see anything. I didn’t see anything that hinted at creating problems.
Nestor Aparicio 07:39
Jason Cole is here. He is our historian, and this, you know, I don’t have a lot of time with you today, and it’s a short week, and they’re playing the dolphins, and the dolphins came back to life. And we could talk about Flacco and Aaron Rodgers and bad uniforms and all sorts of things out there, but this injury report and in our time together, I’ve known you going on three decades, the notion that I don’t think you and I have ever talked about point spreads gambling. It’s become part of the furniture of the conversation now, in a way that I don’t discuss the game that way. I’ve talked about the game a certain way for 30 years, but the injury report, for your purposes and my purposes, was how defenses were going to design to play offenses. How Cooper Rush’s offense is going to be completely different than Lamar, but the point spread moving five points on the lies of the head coach and the general manager under the disguise that everybody in the building is just going to pretend that Lamar is going to play John Harbaugh is working on Schembechler rules from like last century. And then there’s the reality of the point spread and the reality of gamesmanship versus lying versus Saturday saying we’re going to redo the designation of the full versus limited, because he ran scout team yesterday, so he fully participated. This is, quite frankly, Jason as a former media member who was exterminated like a cockroach by Chad steel and John Harbaugh. This is part of their bullshit. You know what? I mean? Like, they just make it up as they go along and nobody’s watching. It feels to me like the NFL is watching Big Time, and the FBI would be watching after the NBA nonsense when a line moves five points on a Saturday afternoon, and everybody in the building pretty much knew he wasn’t playing.
Jason Cole 09:26
Yeah, like, this is the problem, and this is the problem that is incurred by marrying yourself to gambling. Is all of a sudden information. Gambling is all about information, the best of them. And where do you get that information? How do you get that information? And what teams don’t want is they don’t want insiders who give away, you know, like they don’t need Damon Jones. They don’t want what. Happened the NBA with Damon Jones reporting about what happened LeBron James and what kind of condition he’s really in, right? Like, that’s a really gigantic problem they’re trying to avoid now. It exists in the NFL. Don’t, don’t feel yourself. There are too many people who have access to too many people, to too many players and too many coaches who and those that first group that have access. And I’m not talking about reporters, okay, I’m talking
Nestor Aparicio 10:32
about the tight end that’s been out there all week who has a cousin in Alabama who just texts him and says, whether Lamar is going to play or not, right, whether it’s for gambling or not, the truth is the truth, and the truth comes out. And that’s really problematic, as it involves.
8Jason Cole 10:46
But there are like, like, what? There’s always low level of assistance on every team, okay, guys who are trying to make, who are making 3040, $50,000 a year, who have access to information because they’re in the they’re in the building, they’re in the room, and they’re the ones who are the most easy to influence, okay? Or there are guys who are on the team who may have gambling or drug problems, okay, and they’re in deep for it. They have access to information. And though, and look, I’ve been on private websites that had better access to better info, injury information from 20 years ago. I’ve been on those sites where they’re gamblers and they’re saying, I, you know, here’s what’s exactly wrong with this guy, because they have, they’re paying people for the information. And what the NFL needs to avoid is having that become standard operating procedure, and when coaches lie, and I’m not just talking about, you know, Harbaugh and you know what happened here, but when coaches or team are misleading about practice and whether guys will play or what’s going to happen, then you’re opening the door for your low level assistance to have more power, more juice, and therefore be influenced by gamblers who are doing anything they can to pay for the most information well,
Nestor Aparicio 12:15
and I think in the case of the ravens, what is their responsibility? Because har ball doesn’t think that way. He’s the most paranoid human I’ve ever met. And they are all willing to lie about whether I’m a media member after 30 years, Jason, whether Justin Tucker would have ever done anything, whether, I mean, they’re willing to lie to win. Winning is all that matters to them. I’ve been around them for two decades, three decades, in some cases with the Costa and others. And they do treat it as though private business, state citizen. They treat it like a governmental operation. And you know that you’ve been around the most paranoid of paranoid and Bill Belichick and Tom Brady taking air out of footballs that I absolutely believe they did because they never fumbled the football in Foxborough over years. So I, you know, I think there’s some evidence, and then there’s some the obvious truth, which is, when a guy’s not practicing and you’re listing him as something that he’s not, I don’t know what the league is going to do about that. My feeling is, in a week when the FBI and Trump’s goons and cash Patel went after the NBA, that the NFL, at this point is probably going to make a real clown out of har ball, no ravens, and take a draft pick and really, really gin this up, because this is a two time MVP. It moved the line five points on the day before. And they’re clearly, they were dishonest.
Jason Cole 13:37
Clearly, yeah, and they also happen to be in the, you know, in the backyard of Washington, DC and so, yeah, and Trump has, you know, he has friends in the NFL, but he also has, you know, enemies in the NFL because they wouldn’t let him into their little fraternity when he wanted to, when he wanted to buy the Buffalo Bills. So, yeah, I mean, there’s, there’s gonna be some of that, unless they, they take action and take serious action. So yeah, it’s gonna cost him a draft pick. It could be a third rounder, could be a fourth rounder, but it’ll cost him a draft pick. And look, John Harbaugh. Look, I think John Harbaugh, in his heart of hearts is a decent guy who let, and I know you have a difference of opinion here, okay, but my, my, I
Nestor Aparicio 14:26
8always believe that I bet my career on that Jay, by the way, I bet my career on the fact that he was a decent guy.
Jason Cole 14:33
I understand. And then, and what happens with John Harbaugh is he keeps pushing the line and pushing the line pushing line, because he’s a harbor, and he was trained as a harbor to always, you know, push and push and push. And right now there’s nobody there to push back against him, either within the organization or outside the organization, who can tell him, John, you need to just stop. You just need to, you need to not do this in. Anymore. You need to stop acting this way, because he will listen to common sense. You know, most of the time, unlike his brother, his brother will not listen to common sense, but John will listen to common sense, because there is a good person inside of John Harbaugh, again, he just keeps pushing limits and pushing limits, unless somebody says, Dude, you’ve gone too far, then he doesn’t wake up from it. And that’s, that’s the problem you have, because he will have a logical conversation. I just think that there’s, it’s sort of like Mike Shanahan, when he was a great coach with Denver in the 90s, and they had that great running team. One of the things Mike Shanahan was a brilliant designer of offenses, you know, which is why Kyle, Kyle Shanahan is that guy now that, you know, just genius stuff. And he loved throwing the football, but he had Alex, Alex Gibbs as an assistant coach, and Alex is up for the Hall of Fame this year. And the value of Alex Gibbs is Alex Gibbs would stand next to Shanahan during games, and he would in the most and sometimes the rudest ways go, you need to run the ball. Alex Gibson would say to him, no, stop throwing it. Run the ball. We need to do that. And sometimes you just genius. People need a reminder every once in a while that their ideas, not all their ideas, are great.
Nestor Aparicio 16:32
Last thing for you, Jason, Jason Cole is here, by the way, tell me what you’re doing. I mean, you’ve written books on the Broncos. You bring up Elway, you bring up all this stuff. I want to give you a little oxygen to talk about what you’re up to right now, before I go back in on Lamar in on offense.
Jason Cole 16:46
Well, I bought a bagel shop in Gainesville, Florida, seven months ago, called the bagel bakery, not, not the most original name in the world, but we do a great bagel it’s been in business for 26 years. And I just thought, this is number one. It’s just something I really wanted to do. We give about one we give 1% of everything we make to local youth sports that I love, because my kids grew up here and, you know, they played, they rode in high school and in middle school here. I love the community. Here, it’s, we’re about two miles from the University of Florida, and we make a great bagel. And I like, I like bagels, so it’s just kind of perfect. I’ve always wanted to do this. I thought for years and years and years, I really wanted to buy this place. And I was negotiating the guy for years, covid hit that put up the kibosh on it back in the in the late teens, you know. And so 2020 I couldn’t do it anymore. And then back around 2023 it rekindled the ID and said, you know, if I’m going to do this in my life, I have to do it now. And so I’m doing it. And, God, it’s great. Well,
8Nestor Aparicio 17:55
I’m gonna come down. What I need to do is, when I get to Gainesville, I need you to take me on the Tom Petty trail, you know? So, like, there’s got to be some
Jason Cole 18:03
southern that’s a varied and that’s, that’s a wild trail. Let’s just put it that way, in
Nestor Aparicio 18:11
this task. Well, hey, man, I mean, I’m
Jason Cole 18:14
8Penny fest is coming up later this month. You should come down. I’ll send you, I’ll send you a message. There’s a petty fest, really? All right, a petty fest
Nestor Aparicio 18:23
might not happen this month. Might happen next year, though. I mean, I did get the Albuquerque balloons in Finally, after all these years, last month, so I am on the trail to doing different things. So there you go.
Jason Cole 18:34
I’m having a wonderful and wild time
Nestor Aparicio 18:36
the bagel bakery, if you’re in Gainesville, Florida, with my pal, Jason Cole, all right, so last thing with Lamar and the offense and your belief that one in five, two and five, Miami, Minnesota over the bridge, the Jets, the the Browns mean they have winnable games here I hear you on the original sin of not having a pass rush. Where are you on the Ravens in their cosmos of having this ultra incredible player, this revolutionary player, not being able to win in January, you still bought in that the costume and lion har ball and and Lamar and roquan and this group, Ronnie Stanley, that they can write this thing and play a playoff game in January to give themselves a chance
8Jason Cole 19:25
this year? Yeah, no, not this year. I don’t think so. I mean, they’re too deep a hole. Yeah, who knows? Maybe I’m wrong. I mean, you know, with Cincinnati, out of a Cleveland’s Cleveland, you know, the Steelers just okay, maybe, maybe they have
Nestor Aparicio 19:40
four games left with Cincinnati and Pittsburgh, and all I’m saying is winning the division might be nine and eight. It
Jason Cole 19:46
might be, it might be. So maybe there is. I just there has to my biggest problem. I just keep coming back to the defense. Okay, it’s just it’s so incredibly. Flawed, and that’s even before you get to the the Lamar Jackson. What is he in January? Will he have that game? Now, like I’ve said this many times, I didn’t quite believe in Lamar early. He has made huge strides. I think he’s a great player. He is not Patrick mahomes, who I think is the best quarterback in the league. Still, I don’t care about stats. I don’t care about anything else. I want guys who win games he’s not quite as good as Josh Allen in a playoff atmosphere, because he’s not quite as pure thrower. But we’re talking about just the most microscopic of differences between those two guys, right? Joe burrow is different, but burrow is not part of the the equation this year. And he’s kind of a china doll at this point in time. He just, you know, he gets hurt and dinged up too, too often. So look, I love Lamar Jackson, and I think that there is somewhere in his career, in the next six or seven years, there is a championship to be won, I’m afraid, however, it’s only going to be one championship that he wins in his career. I think that he’s gonna, and he’ll be fortunate to win that one title in his career because of the fatal flaws, like he’s missed three opportunities already, and three really good opportunities to win championships, especially the last two years. And it’s like, you know, like they just, you end up like Dan Marino. They just don’t come up that often, or you get dinged up, and all of a sudden you lose five, four or five games, and you’re not a good playoff seat. I mean, the story has been written so many times over, so many different quarterbacks, that I’m afraid it’s going to apply to Lamar, that it’s going to slip away. And the other thing with the Lamar is, and we always have to remember this, there’s going to come a point in this career where he slows down. It just has to be and are you going to be able to generate another Derek Henry, who is the perfect compliment to Lamar Jackson, who forces defenses to account for the running back first and not have to play Lamar first. That opens everything up. I mean, like Derek Henry is a unicorn himself in this era, and so, like, there are a lot of factors that last year was a big miss, and this year is a normal miss because of injuries and because of your transition on defense. Like, this stuff happens, and then all of a sudden it’s like, one year becomes the next becomes the next, and it’s like, is he ever going to win a title? And I’m really afraid that’s what’s going to happen with
Nestor Aparicio 22:48
8Lamar Jackson, you know, I should bring this up with you, because you are the great historian of all things. Jason Cole is our guest. Longtime NFL Insider. Bert Jones came back for the 50th anniversary of the 75 colts and the 7576 77 colts, they’re my first childhood team after Johnny. You love Bob. We lost Marty domres as well a couple weeks ago. He passed away here, stalwart in the Baltimore community, and I’m getting Bill troop meme sent to me when Cooper rush can’t get out of his own way, and they’re scoring three points in front of Tom Brady’s making fun of him in the broadcast. But I would say this, you know, to you all these years later, I was a season ticket holder in the late 80s for Randall Cunningham and Buddy Ryan and rich co tight, and that air baldy was on those teams in the late 80s. And this, you know, you mentioned Marino, these missed opportunities, you know, I mean, I’m going to be in Nashville later in the week, Steve McNair, and how they came a foot away. You and I were down in Atlanta that night. So it’s just that missed opportunity, part of how close you get and how quickly the Orioles found this out. Being an Orioles fan here, the sand goes through the hourglass quickly, the Lamar thing, really, we are getting a little weird here at one and five, and he’s not playing. And I just, um, I’d hate for it to be the Bert Jones of this era, or the Randall Cunningham or the Dan Marino, because I think to some degree Lamar deserves more than that.
Jason Cole 24:09
Yeah, he does go because Lamar Jackson has done as much or more. Lamar Jackson is a talented overachiever. And when I say that, you know, I reserve that for, like, some rare guys. I mean, like the Michael Jordan’s the world. Michael Jordan was a super talented guy who also had the overachiever gene. Wanted to maximize that. You know, Kobe Bryant had that kind of gene in him. You know, there’s Larry Bird, you know, was like that. I mean, there’s just, there’s a series of guys who, you know, they have some kind of flaw to their game, and they work really hard to get rid of whatever flaw they have in their game. And Lamar Jackson had a flaw in his game early on in terms of the way that he threw the football, and he had it, didn’t we all thought the the motion would would be a problem. He fixed it using the same motion. And I admire, I admire the hell out of Lamar Jackson, and he’s, he’s one of the great stories of a player who’s taking his talent and really maximized every ounce of what he is. And I give the Ravens a lot of credit of designing an offense around him and taking a chance on him, okay, and understanding the parts that you need around him to make the most out of Lamar Jackson, okay, I really, I love him as a player. And again, first couple of years in the league, I was like, Yes, I don’t think this is ever going to work this. You know, there’s this is too hard to fix. He fixed it, man, and he proved me wrong. And I love that about Lamar Jackson. But now we’re getting to a point it’s like, what’s happening here, like, you know, this is that season where the injury gets in the way, and something, you know, something doesn’t work out. And again, I’ve just seen this. I’ve seen a story, and I and again, I come back to his career may not be as long, you know, at top, a top level, because he depends so much on his legs. As the saying goes, I’m sorry. Bob Dylan was right now, yeah, the the slow one now will later be fast. That doesn’t happen in real life, sorry. The fast one becomes slow, and then all of a sudden you can’t play anymore, and you can’t do the things that you used to be able to do. All right,
Nestor Aparicio 26:46
look, I’m looking at the bagel bakery. I’m looking at the the vibe here, and it’s 4.5 stars right on Google. So you know, it’s good neighborhood hangout with hot, cold sandwiches for breakfast and lunch, plus organic coffee, which I like. And Espresso from
Jason Cole 27:01
Guatemala, from Guatemala. We, we bring it from from Guatemala, a little town in Guatemala. We, we give to the people fair trade coffee from Guatemala. There you go. All right,
8Nestor Aparicio 27:11
man, it’s been there since 1999 it looks like a lovely spot to have some Wi Fi. I’m most important this time of year, you have some pumpkin on pumpkin spice, something on the menu for me this
Jason Cole 27:21
week. Better better yet, I make, personally, I make a pumpkin Bundt cake with cream cheese frosting that everyone should buy instead of pumpkin pie for Thanksgiving this year, pumpkin bund cake.
Nestor Aparicio 27:35
Listen, I’m not, I don’t think I can do petty Fest this. But keep me in mind in the future that I’ve been to Gainesville for a gators game. I went down there many, many years ago. You Gator bait, all that. I ain’t coming for any of that. I’m coming for you for bagels, and probably on my way to Tallahassee to catch back up with Peter bullware as well at some point.
Jason Cole 27:55
8And we will do a couple of days. You can do the show from the bagel bakery. I
Nestor Aparicio 27:59
want some Appalachia cola oysters shipped in. I want you, you, you people down there to make a Maryland style crab cake for my crab cake tour, so I can make fun of you in Florida, for all, you
Jason Cole 28:12
don’t want, you don’t want crab cakes in Florida, that’s
Nestor Aparicio 28:14
right week. Give me some stone crabs up here. Bring them up from Joe’s. All right. We’ll do stone crap. All right. Jason Cole is here. Maybe bye week next year, we’ll have a petty fest or so. I don’t know you got me interested in I didn’t know there was a petty fest. Now that I know, all right, well, it’s, it’s on the bucket list as our bagels at the bagel bakery in Gainesville, Florida. Jason Cole has covered the National Football League for about four decades. That’s all written books, votes on Hall of Famers, and now the man makes a bundt cake. For crying out loud. You’re my hero. Bagels and bundt cakes being my baby, my next life will be yoga instructor, and you can come that’s what I’ll be doing when this whole thing falls apart and when har ball and the Costa finally get rid of me. I am Nestor. We are W, N, S, T. Am 1570 Towson, Baltimore, man, my tastiness tour. I need to do a North Florida tastiness tour of my curio friend, stay with us.
