When we talk about prosecuting crime in Baltimore County it makes everyone’s ears perk up and local attorney and candidate Sarah David tells Nestor about her path and vision as candidate for Baltimore County State’s Attorney at Pizza John’s in Essex on the Maryland Crab Cake Tour. Do you know who your State’s Attorney is or what they do or how they could be helpful to you as a citizen?

Sarah David, a candidate for State’s Attorney in Baltimore County, discussed her campaign and vision for the office. She highlighted the need for better community engagement and data tracking in the State’s Attorney’s Office, noting that many residents are unaware of its existence. David emphasized the importance of addressing property crimes, financial fraud, and community education on issues like domestic violence and senior fraud. She also stressed the need for proactive enforcement and vertical prosecution to tackle organized crime. David has received endorsements from various political leaders and is committed to improving public safety and accountability in Baltimore County.

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• [ ] @Nestor Aparicio – Schedule and host Nick Stewart as the next guest on the show

Sarah David’s Introduction and Campaign Launch

• Nestor Aparicio introduces the show and mentions the location at Pizza John’s in Essex, highlighting its historical significance.
• Nestor promotes various sponsors, including GBMC, and introduces Sarah David, a candidate for State’s Attorney in Baltimore County.
• Sarah David expresses her excitement about running for office and the importance of community engagement.
• Nestor and Sarah discuss the significance of the State’s Attorney’s Office and its impact on the legal system and community safety.

Sarah David’s Background and Career

• Sarah David shares her background, including her education at Johns Hopkins and her work experience in New York City and Baltimore City.
• She discusses her role in the Freddie Gray case and her transition to working for the General Assembly and as a political corruption prosecutor.
• Sarah highlights the challenges faced by the Baltimore County State’s Attorney’s Office, including lack of community engagement and data transparency.
• Nestor and Sarah discuss the importance of accountability and community resources in addressing crimes and supporting victims.

Challenges and Opportunities in Baltimore County

• Sarah David emphasizes the need for better community engagement and data tracking in the State’s Attorney’s Office.
• She discusses the rise in domestic violence cases in Essex and the importance of preventative measures and education.
• Sarah mentions her social media series aimed at educating the public about available resources and the importance of reporting crimes.
• Nestor and Sarah discuss the broader issues affecting Baltimore County, including public safety, community resources, and the impact of political decisions.

Sarah David’s Platform and Vision

• Sarah David outlines her platform, focusing on community engagement, data tracking, and addressing financial fraud.
• She discusses the importance of vertical prosecution and proactive enforcement in tackling organized crime and financial crimes.
• Sarah highlights the need for collaboration and information sharing among different public safety agencies and community organizations.
• Nestor and Sarah discuss the importance of transparency and effective communication in addressing public safety concerns.

Sarah David’s Campaign and Community Involvement

• Sarah David talks about her campaign activities, including door-knocking, community events, and social media engagement.
• She mentions the endorsements she has received from various political leaders and community members.
• Sarah emphasizes the importance of voter registration and participation in local elections.
• Nestor and Sarah discuss the significance of local politics and the impact of community involvement on public safety and governance.

Sarah David’s Personal Motivation and Commitment

• Sarah David shares her personal motivation for running for office, including her commitment to public service and community engagement.
• She discusses the challenges of balancing her professional and personal life while running for office.
• Sarah highlights the importance of inspiring and empowering the next generation of leaders.
• Nestor and Sarah discuss the broader implications of political engagement and the role of community leaders in shaping the future of Baltimore County.

Sarah David’s Final Thoughts and Call to Action

• Sarah David concludes the interview by emphasizing the importance of community engagement and data tracking in the State’s Attorney’s Office.
• She encourages listeners to get involved in the political process and support her campaign.
• Sarah highlights the various ways people can stay informed and get involved, including her website and social media platforms.
• Nestor and Sarah discuss the importance of staying informed and active in local politics to ensure a safer and more prosperous community.

SUMMARY KEYWORDS

Baltimore County, Sarah David, State’s Attorney, public safety, community engagement, crime prevention, financial fraud, corruption prosecution, voter registration, political campaigns, crime data, community resources, public affairs, law enforcement, crime trends.

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SPEAKERS

Sarah David, Nestor Aparicio, Speaker 2, Speaker 1

Nestor Aparicio  00:00

Welcome home. We are W, N, S, T am 1570 tassel, Baltimore. We’re Baltimore positive. And if you didn’t know it before you know it now we’re at Pizza John’s, because I knew the minute that I would open the show here in the Maryland crab cake tour, we would hear orders, because that’s what happens when you begin a show here at lunchtime in beautiful Essex. My parents homeland, right around the corner from Mount Carmel, where they were married, 1945 US, 81 years ago. Wow, whoa. Essex has been here a little while, one of my favorite places, right around the corner from Skateland. We stopped down and get pizza before we went skating. I mean, pizza, skate land was it was Skateland pizza. It wasn’t like, it wasn’t like pizza John’s pizza. So I have brought some new friends to the east side, and everybody falls in love with pizza John’s when they come here, but they also fall in love with my Maryland treasures, scratch offs in Maryland lottery. And I’m about to promote our other crab cake tour sponsor, GBMC, because it involves my first guest in a large way, and her being here today running for office, which is always perilous but rewarding and in my opinion, inspiring. We’re going to talk a little bit of law and order, as Jack worden once said, and and justice for all. And we’re also going to promote our friends at Farnham in Dermer who make us more comfortable. Made me more comfortable, and I had the plumbing issue back on April Fool’s Day, and it was no joke. My thanks to them, 410, 367777, Sarah David is here. We’re Pete Johns in Essex, where you are running in this tender part of Eastern Baltimore County, where my first girlfriend, Heidi, live right over there, and my uncle Norman lived right down there, and John Allen’s band played right over there at the seagull. They’re all different things now, lunacy and all of that, but you’ve never had a pizza, John’s pizza, and I’m here to change that today as you try to change Baltimore County.

Sarah David  01:57

Yes, yes. And I’m looking forward to

Nestor Aparicio  01:59

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all right. Well, here we go,

Sarah David  01:59

delicious.

Nestor Aparicio  02:00

Well, that’s the first thing you realize when you walk in here. It smells like the kind of place you want to order a pizza.

Sarah David  02:05

It definitely does.

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Nestor Aparicio  02:06

How are you

Sarah David  02:07

I’m doing well, how are you? Thank you so much for having

Nestor Aparicio  02:09

All

Nestor Aparicio  02:10

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right, so I don’t know anything about you. We’ve I’ve reiterated that in the first 15 minutes as we’ve sat down, and I know your friends at Don Moeller and a lot of the other democratic people that are running. We’re going to talk about Scott Schellenberg. We’re talking about past, present, future, the county. Everybody that knows me knows Dundalk. Grew up here, live here, work here, play here, vote here, all of that. Everybody knows what side of the ticket I’m on. So you’re on the little side on June 23 that I get to mail something in, or I get to go pull a ballot. I only know of you because you started showing up on my timeline as political candidate. I don’t know six eight months ago. What you tell me when you decided to do all this and when I could have heard about you?

Sarah David  02:51

Well, we launched our campaign in March of last year.

Nestor Aparicio  02:55

Okay, so you’re

Sarah David  02:56

like, a little over a year, yeah. Okay, over here. And so we have been, you know, working hard to sort of get these issues out in Baltimore County. What was really surprising to me, so, I’m a career prosecutor. I’ve done some other things, but, you know, for prosecutors, we all know about the State’s Attorney’s Office, it’s, you know, something that we’re all familiar with, but

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Nestor Aparicio  03:17

it’s integral, correct, like it’s, you have to deal with them every minute of every day, and a better State’s Attorney’s Office makes all every attorney. You’re just everybody’s a little bit more on point. Can I say that as a citizen? Does that make sense Absolutely,

Sarah David  03:30

and also for citizens, you know, it makes everybody safer. You know, the more engagement the State’s Attorney’s Office has. But I was shocked when we started this campaign in Baltimore County, because as we started knocking on doors, meeting people. Basically, the first question everybody asked us was, like, what is the state’s attorney? Like, do we have a state’s attorney? And so we started learning that, you know, there’s so many issues to talk about, but the first issue we needed to talk to voters about was, we do have a State’s Attorney’s Office in Baltimore County, and it is a really important office, and let’s talk about how we’re going to change it. But that’s been a really interesting sort of space for us in the campaign. It’s just making sure people know, you know what this office is.

Nestor Aparicio  04:08

I think anytime I do, I bring a politician in, or someone that’s working to be, or even just a community leader in some way, the Schoolhouse Rock going back to Don Mueller and I, by the way, we are officially in the same space where we launched Baltimore positive. I launched it literally on the day that they were bringing the healthy Holly books out. Literally was sitting in that room right there with Dutch Ruppersberger, who was then sitting Congress came at Dutch loves Essex. Dutch loves pizza John’s. We launched the show, Don and I don, West Side, me, east side, Dutch, every side. And as we sat down, we did the show at four in the afternoon. And I swear to God, Denise coat came on and Kathy pub, the books were coming out, like, literally, the Feds were on the scene. And I’m like, Baltimore. Positive. Whoop. Here’s my because, I mean, I launched this to run. This is no secret that I launched this to run for mayor in 2020 Brandon, I mean, and I did, there were a lot of Democrats in that pool. And, I mean, the election got moved and George Floyd and Freddie Gray and Kathy pub, everything that Donald Trump, covid. I mean, all of that was like baked into 2020, where were you at all of your prosecuting people, right now, that’s what you’re

Sarah David  05:27

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doing, right? So, yes, so I have so coming back, sort of in my career. I grew up in Pikesville, and then I went to Johns Hopkins. I studied political science in Arabic there. So actually, then I moved to Cairo, and then to Morocco, and then I came back to the United States, and I worked for the New York City Police Department in their counterterrorism division. I was tasked the Joint Terrorism Task Force, and I was the primary briefer to the Deputy Commissioner

Nestor Aparicio  05:50

during before Trump. Like, before

Sarah David  05:53

Trump, like right post 911

Nestor Aparicio  05:55

okay.

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Sarah David  05:55

And so the idea was sort of revamping, right the New York City Police Department to address the new sort of counterterrorism threats post 911 so I did that for a little while. Then I came back here for law school, and then I became an assistant state’s attorney in Baltimore City, and that was sort of during, you know, all of the turmoil with the Freddie Gray case. I was one of the attorneys. Who

Nestor Aparicio  06:19

were you there during the cops?

Sarah David  06:21

Yes. So I was assigned to the clean team of the Freddie Gray case. So I was one of the prosecutors on sort of the clean team. Ultimately, the cases were dismissed. When

Nestor Aparicio  06:28

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did you arrive in the city? What year?

Sarah David  06:31

When did I move back to the city?

Nestor Aparicio  06:32

Yeah,

Nestor Aparicio  06:32

to work in the city. To work you were clearly there in 16, if Freddie Gray

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Sarah David  06:36

Yes, it would have been I moved back here for law school, I think in 2010 okay, I would have been working around like 2013

Nestor Aparicio  06:44

my I lived at the harbor during all I mean, I lived at the harbor from 2003 to 2022 Yeah. So, I mean, for all of O’Malley, you know, through all of that, obviously Sheila, you know, I think the perception the city and the wire part of all of that, where, where were you, with what you were seeing there that would inspire someone, at this point in your career to want to run for public I mean, like, I’m trying to get to the being a good, effective lawyer to I’m running for office. This is the first time you’ve run for office. Okay, yeah,

Sarah David  07:18

I’ve run for office. And so I actually, you’re

Nestor Aparicio  07:20

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like a regular citizen, right? Like it had been that for a long, long time,

Sarah David  07:24

for a long time,

Nestor Aparicio  07:25

okay, yeah. And

Sarah David  07:26

I, you know, I, I left the State’s Attorney’s Office to actually work for the General Assembly, and since then, I’ve been a political corruption prosecutor. So I prosecute cases all over the state of Maryland that relate to police misconduct, political corruption. I do that in Talbot County, Wicomico County, Baltimore County, and so that’s what I’ve been doing, and that’s when I’ve sort of noticed Baltimore County’s falling behind. You know, Baltimore County, State’s Attorney’s Office has not sort of kept pace with the way that prosecutorial offices are functioning around our state. And

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Nestor Aparicio  07:58

why is that? Is that a budget issue? No,

Sarah David  08:00

I think that it really is a priorities issue. And I think, you know, we’ve only had two State’s Attorneys in Baltimore County since 1976 just two. And I think that the result has been sort of an office that has just run the same way for 50 years, while around us, things have changed. And one of the things that’s changed, coming sort of full circle in our conversation, is prosecutors caring about community engagement. And the reason that it’s important right? Is like we talk about accountability, right? Someone commits a crime, you want them held accountable? Well, there’s a step in there, which is a trial, right? And so you need to prove that they committed the crime. You want them to be held accountable for. I

Nestor Aparicio  08:35

always think about that, if somebody did something awful to me, my wife, a family member, who would, who would be there to make sure justice is served, no matter what, no matter I think, I think I thought about this more seeing Springsteen in Minnesota a couple weeks ago and seeing two murdered people in the streets. I’m Venezuelan. I’m East Baltimore. My elementary school, where I was the, well, the Flores family of Columbia was the other Hispanic family in my elementary school. But in the 70s and 80s, there were no Hispanic people in my neighborhood. It’s now 80% Hispanic, and people have the shades pulled down, like, like, you know, like, it’s Amsterdam, and, you know, in the 30s, you know what I mean, like, it’s crazy. And I, I do wonder with who would be the person that would serve justice, and that’s where you and people like you serve on behalf of the community, right? And that’s where Scott jellenberger has been, and that’s where Anthony Brad, I mean, anybody that’s serving I, you know, I’ve, I’ve had a lot of conversations with attorneys, but modern days where you look up in the President’s in the corner doing breaking all sorts of laws. It is really we’re in a weird spot here when I start to talk about to attorneys about what’s happening in our culture, in our country, based on the fact that the rule books getting burned every day, yeah,

Sarah David  09:52

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and I think that that’s why it’s really important. You know? I think that corruption work is really important because it is about truth to power, right? It is about saying it does. Matter who you are, it doesn’t matter how much money you have, it doesn’t matter if you break the law, you should be held accountable. And you know, that’s the work I’ve been doing. But when we look at sort of just the general challenges of a State’s Attorney’s Office, it’s addressing all of those types of community needs to make sure that people understand for any crime, right? Accountability does come for making sure that people have some relationship with the office. And the fact that most people in Baltimore County don’t even know that we have a state’s attorney means that if on any day, right, through no fault of their own, any person could be the victim or witness of a crime, you know, just like what you were saying you’re considering, right? And so if they don’t know that we have a state’s attorney, right, they don’t have a touch point in that office like that’s reducing their comfort level and coming in and making sure that

Nestor Aparicio  10:44

our

Nestor Aparicio  10:44

victimized looks like who’s going to stand up for me, right?

Sarah David  10:47

And they need to make sure that our office is a space where people have those touch points even before that happens, right? Because it’s really helpful. If you know who to call, like our police department in Baltimore County, they’re out and about, like they’re at community meetings. They’re talking to people so and the reason is because if there’s a crime that happens, right, it’s easier to call you know officer Joe who comes to our community meeting, because you know that person. And I think that the fact the State’s Attorney’s Office has our state’s attorney’s office has no community engagement arm, right? They also don’t have any data that they’re making available to the public, so they’re not telling anyone in Baltimore County what they’re doing, like, what’s their conviction rate? What cases are we successful in? What cases aren’t we successful in? Right? And that’s the type of stuff that they’re doing around the state that’s working. Because if we’re having a hard time proving sexual assault cases, we need to figure out why, and we need to fix it. If we’re having a hard time proving property theft cases, we need to figure out why, and we need to fix it, but if we’re not tracking any of that, then we’re not actually addressing the challenges of the county, and that’s been the problem, you know, with the State’s Attorney’s Office, and that’s what I’m really working to fix. Sarah

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Nestor Aparicio  11:52

Davis here, Peter Johns, we were in Baltimore County, and I’ve been trying to keep all the political people that have had on somewhere near their jurisdiction to feed them lunch. We’re on the Maryland crab cake tour, all presented by the Maryland lottery. I have I have birds and mollusks, I have boardwalk, I have Bay bridges, and I have ponies on Assateague that we’re giving away on the behalf of the Maryland lottery. But I mentioned GBMC earlier, and I got my doctor’s report back today’s if it’s the first time I’ve gone and given blood in 25 years like, I’m just not a I told you, my wife’s almost died. Like, so I’ve GBMC sponsored me. They’re trying to keep me alive at a colonoscopy a couple months ago. That kind of probably saved my life. And now, do they have diet pizza? You think here pizza? John’s,

Sarah David  12:36

I don’t think they have diet pizza. I don’t think it’d be very I’m

Nestor Aparicio  12:39

gonna go for the skinny salad. I’m gonna have to go for the oil and vinegar. I don’t eat the blondies here, but man, if I did my a 1c beam. So nonetheless, I met you at a GBMC walk two weeks ago, and I threw the shirt the walk a mile in their shoe shirt into the from East bald into the wash. And then I haven’t worn it yet, but I have my GBMC shirt, and I’m actually going to be recapping walk a mile in their shoes on Monday, so next week. So you’ll hear from that I met you there, and when I asked you what you did, prosecutor, and I’ve read up a little bit on you, but like, I know what you look like because you’ve been on my Facebook for eight months. So there he goes. A little political juice for how social media can help a politician in modern era. But I think I grabbed you on Facebook. I think I invited you maybe on the show, even in the if you go back, probably sometime in the late fall. I’m like, Hey, you’re running for something. You want to come talk to me. I like talking about the county. I like talking about the law. I like talking about what happens to victims of all sorts of things. I think the most sensitive thing I’ve ever had on the show. I’ve had a lot of sensitive issues, but I sat right here about six months ago promoting walk a mile with nurses that are front line. I’ve been raped, I’ve been assaulted, I’ve been beaten. I’m a boy, I’m a girl, I’m a man, I’m a woman, whatever you are, what GBMC represents. And then I’m like, Oh yeah, you’ve been victimized. Oh yeah, you’re hurt, oh you’re bleeding, oh you’ve been powered, you’ve been you can’t go back to that person because they’re they live in your house, like, and I’m from East Baltimore, I feel like I’ve seen I grew up in a broken home. I mean, you know, down the street, I saw everything, but then I started to think about, oh so the police, oh work, oh kids, oh family, oh the law, oh the hospital. There’s just so many people involved in this, but at the end of the day, keeping that person safe from that moment forward, becomes everybody’s responsibility, and I guess maybe that’s how you wound up elbow bumping me over a really beautiful community event over there at GBMC, really awesome day. Yeah,

Sarah David  14:47

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can’t say enough about the amazing work that GBMC has done in Baltimore County in protecting sort of survivors and making sure that they’re there, you know, to be sort of that that space with the DNA testing.

Nestor Aparicio  15:00

I was going to ask you about that, because that’s a whole lane. We could go down that lane. I’m sure that that’s your other than being medical. That’s probably your lane and prosecution at this point, right?

Sarah David  15:08

Yeah, I think that the I think that what you’ve alluded to, though, is there’s a really important point, which is, when it comes to sort of how we treat victims of sex offense, right? Those victims are experiencing a lot of different forces in their lives, you know, rather than sort of just, you know, I’m coming in and reporting this crime, they’re also weighing exactly what you said, Well, if I continue forward with this trial, will I lose my house? Will I lose my kids? Will I lose my job? If

Nestor Aparicio  15:33

I call the cops, my husband’s gonna lose his job, right? Like, boom, just, I like things that I sat here over a pizza with the folks from GBMC, and my jaw dropped. And like, you know, this is why I can talk football, baseball, it’s important. But this is real citizenship, community stuff. And to your point, the Schoolhouse Rock part of people don’t. 90% of the people coming and getting a pizza today. No offense, if you didn’t learn this in seventh or eighth grade, or you haven’t had a hardship, I don’t know where else you get this sort of education,

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Nestor Aparicio  16:02

and

Sarah David  16:02

that’s also sort of the answer is right, and or could be right. The State’s Attorney’s Office and other jurisdictions are doing this right? They’re going into schools. They’re teaching about healthy relationships, they’re teaching about consent. Other State’s Attorney’s offices are doing a really good job making sure that people know about these resources, right? Because you got to know about it before it happens, and then you sort of know what sort of is available to you, or when it happens when you come in. It’s not just about, you know, coming up, showing for, showing up for the trial, right? It’s about sort of getting connected to all of those things. And it’s, it’s, you know, great to be talking about this here in Essex, because the domestic violence cases in Essex actually have been going up and up and up in the past few years. And so one of the things that we need to do is this preventative stuff. And look, I’m not waiting to be elected to do it. You know, you mentioned our social media. We did an entire education series Keeping survivors safer with Sarah, where we educated on sort of, what are some of the resources in Baltimore County, you know, have, what are these nonprofits that people can go to? That’s one of our education pieces. Another one you were talking about the amazing nurses who do this work, was a nurse that came in and talked about rape kits, right? And talked about why it’s really, really important to get a rape kit, even if, even if you’re not going to go forward the prosecution, like the timing matters, and all those things and that type of education, right? Can save people’s lives, because it makes them understand that sort of there’s not just one solution, there’s a lot of spaces, and we see fatality assessments go way down when people have access to these resources. And so I see an opportunity to have a state’s attorney in Baltimore County that prioritizes those preventative conversations, right, that goes into the community and says we’re here, but also all of these other people are here to your exact point, right? It’s all of these community resources. So not only are you not alone in this, but you have options in this. And I think that that is a really important message.

Nestor Aparicio  17:53

So David is here. She is running for State

Sarah David  17:56

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Attorney, State’s

Nestor Aparicio  17:57

Attorney of Baltimore County. That’s a mouthful. It

Sarah David  18:00

is

Nestor Aparicio  18:02

okay. We’re at Pizza John’s. It’s usually a mouthful for the pizza down here, as well as cheesesteaks. I really want french fries and gravy. And I got this message today from Dr Sanusi, so I’m on ice water and lemon right now. And so the inspiration for you to want to become, quote, unquote, a politician, which is part of the job of doing this right like I don’t sense that you have fancied yourself as you’re raising a family and doing this kind of work on behalf of citizens that you fancied yourself someone who’d be door knocking 10 years ago or 15 years ago. Have you been involved ever in political campaigns?

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Sarah David  18:43

I have when I was young. Actually, I started working on political campaigns. I was 11 years old,

Nestor Aparicio  18:49

community organizer,

Sarah David  18:50

one of my father. My father is a professor, and one of his students was running for office. And so now that I’m a parent, I know how expensive camp is, so I understand why my parents thought it would be better for me to just join a campaign for the summer, because, remember, back then, the elections were in September, the primary election, so it was sort of like a good little, like summer gig. And so I did that at 11, and then, you know, at like 15, and worked sort of, you know, doing some of these lower level, you know, field stuff. And then, you know, really transitioned into, as I’d mentioned, into more of a like counterterrorism intelligence space, and hadn’t really come back to sort of political campaigning until, obviously, in my personal capacity, the referendum on choice that was really important to me two years ago. So started again, getting back

Nestor Aparicio  19:34

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in

Nestor Aparicio  19:34

again, once you start playing Roe versus Wade.

Sarah David  19:36

Yeah,

Nestor Aparicio  19:36

this

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Nestor Aparicio  19:36

is a woman off. Well, I

Sarah David  19:37

think it should. I think it should piss men off too. I think that it’s, you know, it’s this is, these are healthcare issues. And I think,

Nestor Aparicio  19:44

got a mom, got a sister, got a daughter. Love her, yeah? Come on, let’s go.

Sarah David  19:48

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Yeah. I mean, we really, you know, it’s tough to it’s funny, it’s tough. I have a nine year old son, and it is tough to explain. I mean, he is so I’ll say blessed, although not all would agree to be surrounded by. A lot of very, very forceful women, and a lot of women who, you know, speak with a lot of authority, as

Nestor Aparicio  20:06

was I, which is why I don’t eat tuna fish. To this day, I had my aunt would make me, you know,

Sarah David  20:11

yeah,

Nestor Aparicio  20:12

I fight authority. Authority always wins. Yeah,

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Sarah David  20:14

well, and I think it’s good to have, you know, to be raised by by women who exude power and other things. But he it’s hard to explain why

Nestor Aparicio  20:22

your mom,

Sarah David  20:23

pardon

Nestor Aparicio  20:23

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you, tiger mom,

Sarah David  20:24

a little bit a little bit a little bit. And I think that, like one of the hard things to explain, though, is sort of why we are in this fight, right? Why we are fighting for rights that we had so many years ago, why we have to fight for certain elements of equality. My mother

Nestor Aparicio  20:39

was born in 1919, my mother that got married here, she didn’t have the right. Didn’t have the right

Sarah David  20:43

to vote,

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Nestor Aparicio  20:43

right? She wouldn’t

Nestor Aparicio  20:45

born,

Sarah David  20:45

yeah.

Nestor Aparicio  20:46

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So, like, I have to put that into perspective

Sarah David  20:48

exactly,

Nestor Aparicio  20:48

like, where, where we are and where we’ve come from,

Sarah David  20:51

and so think about sort of how it is for for women, you know, especially my mother’s generation, who fought so hard, and then, and then got, you know, Roe v Wade, and then to see it overturned for our daughters, right? I mean, that’s to the I have a five year old daughter, and the notion that she would is growing up in a space with less rights than I grew up with is, is something, you know, very concerning.

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Nestor Aparicio  21:11

Got you active?

Sarah David  21:12

Oh, very

Nestor Aparicio  21:13

two years ago you got active. You got pissed

Sarah David  21:15

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off. I think you’ve

Nestor Aparicio  21:16

been pissed off a while. Yeah, we all have, you know. But I think there comes a point where you make that decision that, quite frankly, this whole show, the whole reason I’m not on the radio screaming about what Pete Alonso is batting right now, or Raven signing colleius Campbell, which I did this morning, and you could find it at Baltimore positive, if you wish, was just sort of this overall concern about Freddie, gray, Trumpism, the city, my investment, people leaving the state taxes, Trumpism, Trumpism, you know, on and on and on and all and then covid, and then worried about businesses like this going out of business, right? Like all of this. If you’re not politically aware or active in some degree, I don’t know that we have a lot to talk about, because it’s affecting, like, how much gas is down the street today, right? Like, so we can talk about all that. I can go into that lane with you all day and all night. Over. We have Kiante here at Pizza, John’s. I can say but, but, but, but in all seriousness, like I the more serious I get about these issues, the more, quite frankly, ignorant. I think a lot of people are on the Schoolhouse Rock thing to say, hey, let’s all get on a level playing field here, so we know what our rights are, what what America is supposed to represent, what the Constitution is. And when I start to talk to lawyers, their heads spin like the exorcist saying, like, I don’t even recognize this, and what can I do about it? And I think I told you before we went on the air, but I want to pay homage to Uncle Ted and to Don Mueller and everybody else that put me into this space to some degree, sort of like all I’ve got is an FCC license that Brandon Carr would come down and tell me, like he’d go after Jimmy Kimmel this week might be me next week, right? And I’m thinking like I’ve had, I’ve had a license to broadcast with the federal government for 28 Yeah, I’m in business with them, whether I want to be or not. I’m thinking this is not somebody’s got to stand up. And when I sit with Chris Van Hollen, or I sit with Ben, Ben Cardin, or I sit with Westmore, anyone who’s standing up for people getting the bridge bill, whatever it is, there’s a difference between Teddy Roosevelt, right? Being here, sitting here pizza John’s, and you being an angry lawyer and maybe or being somebody saying, hey, vote for me. I want to affect real change. So in your case with the county, what? What are the three things that got you angry enough involving the county to say, I’m going to change a, b and c. So I guess when I was going to run, my wife’s like, You got to have a platform. So what’s, what is your platform in that way to be to throw your name in the hat and do what you’re doing that you didn’t think you were going to be doing?

Sarah David  23:51

Sarah, yeah, and I also say, I also want to say, in light of this is, you know, be more positive, etc. It’s not just anger, right? It’s opportunity. It’s, it’s not just saying, it’s not just sitting here saying, you know, this is this is all bad. It’s that we’re not doing the good we could do right like we have so much opportunity to facilitate really strong change. I mean, we don’t have a Baltimore County is so siloed. We don’t have sort of the sharing of information and also of skill sets that we need to bring together to solve our problems. If Baltimore County had a leader in the public safety space that acknowledged and understood and led and said, Look, here are all the people we need to get at this table together to solve this problem, that would make a huge difference in moving our county forward. And so it’s really for me, it’s inspiration that there is real opportunity and obviously frustration that it’s not happening. But I think that when you look at public safety and what we could build if we actually engaged the resources that our county has, we have people for when I was at the NYPD, for example, it was. Just, let’s train the officers to identify terrorism threats, right? We had a program called NYPD shield, where we actually went out and trained the real estate community, the banking community, all different types of organizations about, sort of, what were the terrorism threats that we were seeing. And it

Nestor Aparicio  25:18

happens, you can’t have chaos. And in New York, you had chaos,

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Sarah David  25:21

yes, and I

Nestor Aparicio  25:22

you

Nestor Aparicio  25:22

didn’t have, you didn’t you didn’t get a trial run there. That wasn’t a fire drill. That

Nestor Aparicio  25:26

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was a real

Sarah David  25:26

thing, and it was constant. And I think that we just aren’t doing we aren’t engaging our community in ways that sort of are like, okay, here are our challenges in these spaces. What is the table? What? Who are the people that we need to get together to work for the solutions. I don’t think you run for office because you have all those solutions. I think you run for office because you’re willing to solve the problems, right? You’re willing to take a leadership role in getting something solved. And it’s, you know, arrogant to think that you can do that on your own, right. And I think in Baltimore County, there has just been so much of a history of siloing of resources as opposed to collaboration to really address these issues. And that collaboration involves community engagement, it involves crime prevention, and we just haven’t been engaging in that side at all. And so also just not to know what’s happening in our county. We have so many conversations about public safety in this county with literally no information. We have no information from the State’s Attorney’s Office about what’s happening in the case.

Nestor Aparicio  26:25

Give me, give me a give me an example or three about that.

Sarah David  26:29

Okay, so, like, let’s talk about, you know, we hear a lot when we go around the county in a lot of different areas, we hear a lot of concerns about property crimes, right, theft, and what we hear over and over again, is it’s not worth the business’s time, right? To pursue the case. Somebody

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Nestor Aparicio  26:45

stole the candy bar. They stole something that’s worth 10 bucks 50 but this walking out on bills is a serious issue,

Sarah David  26:51

right? Well, that and also, but also, sometimes people are stealing things that are not 10 bucks. They’re selling things that are 1000 bucks. Businesses aren’t pursuing it. So are we? Are we losing those cases? Are witnesses not coming forward in those cases? Are we able to hold people accountable, if we could track are these? Are these groups that are committing these crimes? Is it just individuals? And if we can track that information right, we can actually successfully prosecute the cases. But if we have no idea what’s happening, then we can’t and also, there are different types of crimes that often people don’t report. Another series that we did on our social media was keeping seniors safer. With Sarah and we talked to members, actually down in Turner Station in Dundalk of the senior community about sort of the fraud that’s been happening targeting seniors who people calling

Nestor Aparicio  27:41

my mother, oh my gosh. My mother died at 98 years of age in 2018 and in the modern era, you know, she would get calls getting this. I mean, if I get that damn city citation text again from Iowa or somewhere south of Seattle, Washington or work I’m getting, I got the same one, and I’m thinking, who is policing this? I swear to god, I almost put a screenshot up and said, Who’s doing something about this? Because it’s scamming somebody, and, if nothing else, it’s scaring a lot of people unnecessarily, in a world where we don’t allow people to yell fire in a crowded theater

Sarah David  28:19

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and like, but there’s, there’s two sides of that, right, like, there’s making sure people are encouraged to report it, and then showing people what you’re doing about

Nestor Aparicio  28:27

spam. Gotta report your spam. But

Sarah David  28:31

also, you know, the prevention piece, right? By telling people what types of things are out there, it makes them second guess. And again, these are sophisticated frauds. And so, you know, like, they can take people’s grandkids voice and call them, and think about how scary that is. And so I think that the challenge is, when you don’t track any of these things, you’re not tracking your complaints, you’re not tracking and also, then you’re not tracking what’s effective on the back end. You know other jurisdictions, for example, you know, engage in mental health, addiction, you know, low level crimes, what’s called diversion, making sure people are connected with resources you know, for the underlying issue of

Nestor Aparicio  29:10

the crime, and

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Sarah David  29:11

then we can track, do these people re offend? Do they not? What programs are working, what programs aren’t? If we have that information right, then we’re making the county safer, because we can invest our resources in spaces that are working and not use things that are not working, and we can try new things that are working other places. Our state’s attorney’s office is doing none of those things. And that’s the problem. We can’t just sit here and say, and I know you interview a lot of people, so you know it’s like the trope in Baltimore County, right? Well, that’s not how we do it. We’ve never done it this way. That’s not how we do it.

Nestor Aparicio  29:39

Experience that it’s I’m experiencing that right now. I’m gonna talk to Nick Stewart about that. I’m gonna talk to Julie and I’m gonna talk to Pat, Listen, man, you know, I I live here, I work here. I own a business here. I own, you know, property here, I vote, here, I eat here. All my businesses are here, right? Well, you’re. The city, the county where, you know, I, by the way, Sarah Davis here, if you’re listening out on radio, where Pete’s, John’s, we’re doing the Maryland crab cake tour. Even though she might have pizza, you have a good, nice crab cake here. They do. They have a really nice crab cake here. So moving this into action, what I don’t understand the funding of your department, I like again, to your point, I’ve lived here my whole life, and I it’s a bit of a mystery. Yeah, Scott’s been on once or twice on a zoom back in the Mueller era, Scott, you’re welcome. Come meet me on the other side. Come meet me over cost us a couple weeks. I I like talking about this, but I do think we only learn about it when we’ve been impacted by it, right? Like when something bad happens, like, who do I call? What? You know, where do I go? And at the end of the day, if anything really awful happens, it’s going to wind up in your desk, right? Or something like you, right? Corruption and prosecution of corruption, political corruption. That’s our that’s door number three for you. What do you have to say about that? Because when you were talking about tracking minor crimes and this and that, all I could think about were those thugs on January 6 tearing down the Capitol and the whatever, the records were whatever, and then just being like, set out onto the streets. And the perception that we just put criminals every day in Apple, it sends criminals back to Baltimore City, and I’ve gone down that river years ago from the wire straight on through in the county as you see it. Give me a couple of corruption things that you’re like, I want to straighten this out, other than just reporting itself, right, like, literally, just facts, right? So

Sarah David  31:40

I think that what we really need to focus on also is building an office that can address sort of these types of crimes, which often involve, like, a lot of financial fraud. And I’ll say this, that sort of, that’s not been a place where the State’s Attorney’s Office has put a lot of energy, and I think that that needs

Nestor Aparicio  31:58

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to change financial fraud, meaning online,

Sarah David  32:00

no, I mean, like,

Nestor Aparicio  32:01

just out in the open,

Sarah David  32:02

there’s all of it, right? It’s, it’s sort of like a division of the office, right? That should it’s, it’s both online and it’s in person. It’s

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Nestor Aparicio  32:10

just people getting ripped off financial period, right? It’s maybe not with a gun, maybe not with a break in, but they’re getting ripped off. They’re getting their money stolen in some way, yeah, and

Sarah David  32:20

it’s embezzlement, and it’s all of those types of, like, when we look at corruption, like, it was funny. Somebody said to me, you know, how do you go from, like, counter terrorism to corruption like that makes no sense. I was like, it makes perfect sense. It’s money and networks, right and

Nestor Aparicio  32:33

tracing it

Sarah David  32:34

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right, but tracing money and networks and so I think that, like, one of the most important things that the State’s Attorney’s Office can really improve, and this is obviously transferable to drug trafficking, gun trafficking, and human trafficking as well, is, is creating units that, do you know, proactive enforcement, and it’s called vertical prosecution. You have prosecutors engaged from the case from the beginning. That’s that’s sort of the model that we do in the corruption space. And that way, sort of, you’re interacting with each part as the prosecutor is part of the investigation. You get to build a case, and that’s where you get to target like sophisticated networks and other things, right? And that’s a really, really important tool, not just for corruption, but for really isolating the sources of a lot of crime, which can make a really big difference. And again, our state’s attorney’s offices around the state are doing this. It’s not just our federal partners, and I think that that’s a real space where, where we could build something important in Baltimore

Nestor Aparicio  33:24

County, in our county, is the biggest problem, guns, drugs, gangs. I’m just thinking, I don’t watch Fox News. I’m just gonna pretend I do. But the problems that would be that would wind up in your office as code red, you know, real threats other than crazy kid in Essex takes a gun into a school, individual things with sophisticated organized crime in some way. Yeah,

Sarah David  33:52

and I think that that’s where we need to do a better job. Also, when we talk to you know about why data and tracking makes such a big difference, and why sort of this conversation is important, is that it’s, it’s it’s not just sort of what we think it is right. We should know what it is like you’re talking about, sort of the rhetoric around like Annapolis, everyone’s being let out. Nothing happens. This happens.

Nestor Aparicio  34:14

What I heard on the news,

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Sarah David  34:15

I know, but, but how much more persuasive would it be if the state’s attorney was able to come in and say, This is where we’ve seen an increase. This is why we need these resources, and these are the resources that we need, right? That is why having actual information matters in solving these problems like the we can always have like perception issues, we can have anecdotes, we can have rhetoric, but if we want results right, we actually need to be tracking and building cases in a space that matters. And by the way, our state’s attorney’s office also doesn’t have any like public affairs mechanism, so we’re not even getting the benefit of the deterrence that comes with sort of marketing, the effectiveness that we have when it comes to if we have it in the well, there’s plenty

Nestor Aparicio  34:58

of

Nestor Aparicio  34:58

people marketing fear, right? In a general sense, not marketing success, right? I mean, and I haven’t had Brandon Scott on lately, but the murder numbers going down, that’s a good thing. I had Steve Miles on the show a couple weeks ago, and fadeley’s coming in Lexington market. I mean, there don’t PR mean, just sell me the good news. I’ll take the good and the bad, but just give me the reality, right? Let’s find the reality, not the right or the left or even the center, just the truth that’s as citizens, as residents, 90% of my interactivity and the air I breathe, and the cookies I get and that I shouldn’t be getting, and the pizza I eat that I’m damn well gonna eat before I get out of here, because I’m a pizza John’s, but it’s in Baltimore County. We’re sitting in Baltimore County right now. You’re from Pike’s role. I’m from Dundalk. I live in Towson. You’re you know, we’re, I’m gonna be at Catonsville in two weeks, at fishmonger’s daughter, I saw you at the GBMC. We’re kind of all in this together. And well, how can people contribute to you? Hear more about, you know what you’re about. Educate people a little bit more. I’ve tried to educate folks. Here. Sarah Davis, here she is Baltimore County resident running for the law and the order in Baltimore County, which we don’t talk much about. And Scott schellenberger, his name’s been on ballots for years and years, and you’re trying to get your name out a little bit, right?

Sarah David  36:11

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Yeah. And look, I’m really proud of, you know, also the support that we’ve gotten in the endorsements that we’ve gotten in this campaign, you know, just showing that Baltimore County is ready for a different vision and change. You know, we’ve been endorsed by the former speaker, Adrian Jones, as you mentioned, former executive, County Executive, Don Moeller, Senator Shelley hettleman, the former State’s Attorney in Baltimore City, Greg Bernstein. Delegate Kim Ross. Delegate Nick Allen. Delegate Cheryl pastor and many, many other Why

Nestor Aparicio  36:38

do you think they’re endorsing you?

Sarah David  36:39

I think that they’re endorsing me, because I think the county is ready to sort of move forward. We’ve again. We’ve had two State’s Attorneys since 1976 and I think there’s a broad space. How

Nestor Aparicio  36:50

many years Scott’s been in the office?

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Sarah David  36:53

20.

Nestor Aparicio  36:54

I had a conversation today with a friend of his childhood friend to his who I didn’t know this until an hour ago, literally, and we were, I said, he’s got to be fifth term, right? Like, I he said, No, I think it’s been three or four. So we were getting into this, so it’s been 20, okay, that’s, that’s good to know,

Sarah David  37:12

yeah. And I think that, you know, there’s just a

Nestor Aparicio  37:14

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and we had one all of our childhood, like, literally, right, from the time I had bicentennial in 1976 it’s crazy,

Sarah David  37:22

and I think it’s important, you know, we’re getting a lot of support. One, you know, look, I, you know, I have a lot of experience in these areas and that that’s, you know, helpful, but I think we just have a broad need in Baltimore County for the things I’m talking about, you know, for this type of change, so that we can move forward when it comes to public safety. And so if people want to get involved, you know, we have a website like Sarah for baltco.com, and we’re on social media. Same handle,

Nestor Aparicio  37:48

Sarah with an H,

Sarah David  37:49

Sarah with an H, yes, Sarah with an H, and I got

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Nestor Aparicio  37:51

to talk to you about the songs. Go ahead. We’re gonna have some fun here before we get going here.

Sarah David  37:55

But I think that

Nestor Aparicio  37:56

pizza,

Sarah David  37:56

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yes, but I think that that’s it’s really important for people to engage, because this is an important office, but because it’s, you know, it’s one of those offices where we’ve only had two State’s Attorneys, people don’t think of it. They don’t remember it during the election. And so I think that, you know, we’re really, really, that’s why we’ve been working hard for over a year, you know, knocking on doors and making sure that we are putting forward this message that this office is important and we have a real vision that will make

Nestor Aparicio  38:22

it

Nestor Aparicio  38:22

better. Let’s have some fun with citizen Sarah David here, right? So two years ago, and it really inspired me in a lot of different ways, Rick Emmett from triumph wound up on the show because of this. I had Kurt Newman from bodine’s, who’s going to be at Rams Head next week on and I talked to him about the greatest song, Sean Allen. And I have had this conversation, probably together, but not on the air. And by the way, he does not have covid, and he will be here rocking out in Essex, right down the street from the seagull where they the good old boys did it. So I woke up one morning and I had a gumption about the greatest song ever written. And it was one of those mornings where my wife and I have these weird shower lights, and I had music blaring at three in the morning. And I don’t think my wife might have been out of town. It was Christmas time, and I’m just like, waxing poetic. And I grabbed my Facebook, as I’ve been known to do, and I put something out, like, to the point of, like, what is the greatest song ever written? I’m not lobbying for any song. I’m just like, freshening up my iPod, which Dave shining appreciated. And so I put that out, and next thing you know, three hours later, I got 80 songs, and all of them have some validity, some like magic power from triumph. So I just want to promote triumph a little bit. And I’m like, I’m gonna put I put that in, and I’m like, Damn, that’s a great song, man. You know that I’m young, I’m wild, I’m free. Got the magic power, the music in me, like, just so someone put Sarah up, the word it was Dave shining. Put Sarah up. And I’m like, I. What Sarah? Because you get the SRA, right? Yeah. So my first Sarah was Jefferson air, Jefferson Starship, Mickey Thomas, who sings like an angel. You know, no time is a good time. So I’m thinking, that’s not the song Dave shining is talking about. And I thought, did He mean the Fleetwood Mac song? And I’m like, I love that song. You know, Stevie Nicks. I put it in, wait a minute, baby. Then I’m like, That is God shining. You’re a genius. So about two weeks later, he came to do the show with me, and it was over in West Baltimore, in the city. We sat down, and we’re like, talking, and I wore my Fleetwood Mac belt buckle, because I collect my rock today, I wore my bad company because you were me and and I said, I got up, showed off my belt buckle, which I won’t do that with you. I’ll do that with John Allen later. But because it glitters, well, it’s pretty nice, right? And it’s pretty glittery right now, it’s very like Skateland Essex was back in the day when I met Heidi. So I said to Sean, I’m like, Dude, what a great get that morning that you did Sarah, and he looks at me all like, pissed off. He’s like, dude, I’m a hipster. It was Bob Dylan, Sarah,

Sarah David  41:13

hmm,

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Nestor Aparicio  41:13

so I got to ask you, with a name like Sarah, that’s been immortalized in song, I just gave you three Sarah’s. Am I missing? Hold on. Hall of notes, Sarah, smile.

Nestor Aparicio  41:25

I

Sarah David  41:25

was just that you took. I was just gonna say a smile. What the first one?

Nestor Aparicio  41:32

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Because he just wrote Sarah. So I knew it wasn’t that song that’s right there with the Fleetwood Mac song, though, but it’s not. But Okay, keep going. Your name Sarah, this is not my name is Nestor. No one knows Nestor. I had to go to South America to find that

Sarah David  41:47

none of the Sarah songs are like, Layla, you know, like, like a song that’s

Nestor Aparicio  41:52

a one time,

Sarah David  41:53

right? Like that. You just like, hear it when you hear that name. And so I grew up

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Nestor Aparicio  41:57

like the Kiri girl. I might have been a boy. Yeah,

Sarah David  42:00

there’s no, it’s just sort of like, and also,

Nestor Aparicio  42:03

yeah,

Sarah David  42:04

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I grew up, you know, in the 80s, ever there were, like,

Nestor Aparicio  42:07

I have no idea how old you are, so I don’t know

Sarah David  42:09

there were 15 Sarah’s in like, all of my classes. So, like, I, you know, I’ve always had the

Nestor Aparicio  42:15

same East

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Nestor Aparicio  42:15

Baltimore. Everybody was Michelle, because of the Beatles.

Sarah David  42:17

Yeah, but I’m right. I’m will always be Sarah David, as if it’s one word, because there were like, 15 Sarah’s at any

Nestor Aparicio  42:23

moment south so we had John Allen,

Speaker 1  42:25

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yeah,

Nestor Aparicio  42:26

Billy Bob’s. And, you know,

Sarah David  42:27

yeah,

Nestor Aparicio  42:28

Ricky Bob. Ricky, Billy Bob.

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Nestor Aparicio  42:30

She is running for

Sarah David  42:32

State’s Attorney in Baltimore County.

Nestor Aparicio  42:34

All right, so if you vote in the county on the Democratic side in the primary, do you want to do a little attorney citizen speech for why these people need to get registered to vote, even if they’re going to vote not

Sarah David  42:45

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for you. Oh yeah, no, it’s it’s really important to be registered to vote, because if you

Nestor Aparicio  42:48

don’t, please do

Sarah David  42:49

because if you don’t vote, then you know, you don’t get look at all of the things we’ve talked about, everything, and the things you can’t control, right? Like we just talked about, any day of the week you could be a victim of a crime. Like, don’t you want to make sure that all of these systems are in place to protect you, to protect you, to protect your family, to protect your kids, and all of that comes from from getting involved. And we have, for the first time, I’ll also note seven open Council manic seats in Baltimore County and an open county executives race. So there are a lot of local offices on the ballot, and so

Nestor Aparicio  43:16

it’s important.

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Sarah David  43:17

It really, really is

Nestor Aparicio  43:19

and all that crap you vote for later on with a Q and A read that stuff. It’s important. It

Nestor Aparicio  43:23

is

Nestor Aparicio  43:24

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about parks, about water, about safety, about resources. Tell you want to do the molar communication speech that the tourism gal gives me at Mako every year, which is, we have the water, and we have the most water, and we have water, and when there’s a lot of water, and we have the most boats, and we have the, like, Baltimore County’s like, this really cool place, right?

Sarah David  43:44

It is. But I’m not going to give a Don Mueller speech. I would not do it justice, but I will say Baltimore County is incredibly I grew up here. You grew up here, and we grew up in different places

Nestor Aparicio  43:54

of the county. We have a lot of Maryland treasures. This could be, this could be Middle River, right here, right here. It could be,

Sarah David  43:59

we both went to skate land.

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Nestor Aparicio  44:01

Yes, we did.

Sarah David  44:02

And you know,

Nestor Aparicio  44:02

I’m

Nestor Aparicio  44:03

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wearing the belt buckle.

Sarah David  44:03

You are. You are. I did not dress in my Skateland.

Nestor Aparicio  44:06

I saw the Michael Jackson movie last week at the D box in Towson, where it’s still cool to be going and being safe and doing all that stuff. So yeah, I gotta get Nancy on too, because towson’s Getting a beating right now. And I hate this, because I live and work and play in Towson.

Sarah David  44:20

I live there too.

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Nestor Aparicio  44:21

Sometimes even eat pizza in Towson. Don’t tell my friends in Essex, but man, I you know, like, come on. Man, I take this together

Sarah David  44:28

exactly, exactly,

Nestor Aparicio  44:29

even the Hereford zone, where you got two hours off from school tomorrow. So are you gonna have the I call this the black water because I think it is. I got crustaceans, mollusks, beautiful waterfront, and heron, and that looks like a hawk. I have this one. I have boardwalk, which is, you know, summer dreams, baby. Let’s go. I’m going to be at Mako in August. Hope to get down before this is, I thought this was the Key Bridge, but it’s the Bay Bridge, because there’s two spans. And then I have acid tea courses and ponies, which could be the Preakness horses, but they moved the damn thing to Laurel. But. It’s got sand. So I know these are acid tea courses, which Maryland treasure is yours? Sarah David,

Sarah David  45:04

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oh, the acid tea courses.

Nestor Aparicio  45:06

Acid tea courses, it is for Sarah David, we’re down here. Tell everybody how to find you on the interweb if they want to vote for you or not, or just read up on your platform because you’re now a politician, whether you want to

Sarah David  45:16

be or not. Yes, yes, yes. Sarah for baltco.com and same social handles at Sarah for baltco, on Facebook, Instagram, all of those wonderful did

Nestor Aparicio  45:25

it get everything in but the pizza thus far? Oh, I mean, how

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Sarah David  45:29

could we ever talk about everything? But this was great.

Nestor Aparicio  45:31

All right. Well, whether you win or lose, you’re always welcome to come back and try to make me smarter

Sarah David  45:36

anytime. All

Nestor Aparicio  45:36

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right. Sarah, David is here. We’re Pete Johns all brought to my friends at the Maryland lottery in conjunction with GBMC, which is kind of how I met Sarah, because we met each other on a man if every event that there’s ever been, if every wedding, every bar mitzvah, every ravens game, every Oreo game, was held on that afternoon at GBMC, yes, I will remember seeing people meeting you, having fun, taking selfies and all that. But I will just remember, like parking my car there, where they stuck me with a needle yesterday over GBMC to make sure that my blood’s almost normal. I’m only gonna have one slice today. I’m not gonna have two. We

Sarah David  46:13

went from a salad to zero,

Nestor Aparicio  46:16

double Provolone and on French fries and gravy. We’ve

Sarah David  46:21

had a lot of evolution on your

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Nestor Aparicio  46:22

backwards. Here a little

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conversation.

Nestor Aparicio  46:24

I parked in the same parking lot when I went for my medical yesterday, and I just remember walking up and thinking my for Greg Schaefer, for my friends at GBMC, like Christina who helped save my life with a colonoscopy. It was just such a perfect day.

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Yes,

Nestor Aparicio  46:37

you know

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absolutely

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so

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Nestor Aparicio  46:38

walk a mile in their shoes. Another thing I can promote, because that’s how I met Sarah. So see that meet me out at events, even if you’re Republican and you meet me at the Italian associated charities like Pat Dyer. Did you get to come out and talk on the show? I had a candidate from one of the districts in Baltimore County. I think four reached to me and another. So everybody, if you want to come on and you are a political aspirant. First off, massive respect in the Teddy Roosevelt kind of way. Nick Stewart, I’d noticed guy back when he was a citizen. He doesn’t know enough to get in front of me so that I know he’s here to break this up. Because I’ll sit here and talk to you about, like, pizza and birds, and why did you pick the horses?

Sarah David  47:17

Oh, because we always go and see the horses at Assateague. It’s a huge

Nestor Aparicio  47:20

now he’s getting in front of

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me like, now he’s figured it out.

Nestor Aparicio  47:25

Are you endorsing each other? So

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here’s

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the problem. And Mueller knew this when I was going to run, nobody’s gonna endorse my ass, you know, other than the pizza in East Baltimore. So Nick’s gonna come on. He’s gonna get a Maryland treasure. Listen, I’m gonna pull one of the horses out, so you get a chance at the horsey if you want. It’s all brought to you by the mayor in the lottery, as well as our friends at Farnham and Dermer, who saved my ass to teak a couple weeks ago. Man, I’m wake up in Minnesota, my wife’s calling me six in the morning, and I knew it was a code red because she wouldn’t call she knows better. And I thought, oh, no, What? What? Awful things happen. Pipe burst. Farnon and Dermer, 410-367-7777, they made my wife more comfortable. I’m gonna bring her you’re getting a salad on the way home. She’s gonna be like, it’s not my a 1c it’s your a 1c back for more from pizza. John’s Nick’s coming on next. And we’re gonna continue to talk about government in Baltimore County, at least. I hope I said it

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right.