Didn’t those Terps numbers and letters glow look like a mood ring?

Leonard Raskin and Nestor discuss college football madness on the field and the marketing of sports and football jerseys making our television screens scream color chaos. Some are throwbacks; some are throw ups! And about those Ravens’ purple helmets…

SUMMARY KEYWORDS

Pittsburgh week, Ravens purple, college football, Maryland oyster tour, financial advice, Orioles offseason, Rubenstein ownership, Ravens logo, gold pants, purple helmet, Ovechkin record, NHL goals, estate planning, wealth protection, Maryland lottery

SPEAKERS

Leonard Raskin, Nestor Aparicio

Nestor Aparicio  00:01

8

Welcome home. We are W, N, S, T AM, 1570 Towson, Baltimore and Baltimore, positive. We are positively into Pittsburgh week around here, positively into crab cake season, as well as the Maryland oyster tour that we put in progress back in September. We’re releasing our dates and our oysters here in months with ours, and certainly the Maryland lottery has made that happen with us. Have Raven scratch also be giving away. We’re going to be a Cocos. We’re going to be a Costas. We’re going to be a fat lease. All the usual suspects back at State Fair, we were just down to Pizza Johnson Essex, although I had a delicious pizza as well as a sausage sub at Pizza John’s on Sunday night. This is weird, man. We have a three out of four Sundays where the Ravens aren’t playing. This is the week they are playing in Pittsburgh. Luke will be covering the game. He’s back and forth courtesy of our friends at chief Newburn farms to Pittsburgh and back and forth to Owings Mills all week. And you can follow him at Baltimore, Luke. But Leonard Raskin is going to join us now. We’re in the Raskin global shirt. Here. He is our insider with all things finance and money. And, you know, I, by the way, speaking of money in the Orioles off season, Luke and I did an hour on whether mister Rubenstein is going to sign one. So I’ve met mister Rubenstein since the last time you and I got together. I saw that the weirdest thing. And I said this to Luke, how did this happen? How did this happen? I was at it. Beth to philos long story. Greg ash, thank you for recommending that as well as good corned beef to me, but listen the Ravens thing and the weirdness. Brian Baldinger always said to me, my partner and my yogi, my the guy who got me on the yoga mat for the first time 25 years ago, yeah, Brian would always say football is a seven day life cycle. It’s a fruit fly. It’s a fruit flies live seven days. I don’t know if that’s true or not, but I don’t know. So he said, every seven day, you know, Baldy, let me get the thumb out. Baldies, like every seven days we play at one o’clock. Anything that alters that nasty, it’s not good, you know. So I always think about it that way. And man, when I’m on a couch all day with my kitty cat, I’ve I feel like blowfeld in James Bond a little bit, but you have this giant dog that gets on your right, right, right? My kitty gets on my chest and She purrs, and I’m watching the commanders and the Steelers play on me right. And we’re three out of four weekends. We don’t even play on Sunday. So we get to be really good. You get to play on like Monday night or Wednesday night or

Leonard Raskin  02:27

Christmas, Thursday night or, who knows when. Absolutely how are you? Man? You alright? Doing alright. Doing alright. Watching a lot of college football, I went 15 and four in my football poll this weekend. Not a bad, not a bad weekend. I missed, obviously, all the big upsets on the weekend, but the Buckeyes are number two in the country, and getting ready for a couple big games coming up. And the Ravens had a fabulous, strange, wild Thursday night, that was fun to watch. And then, of course, the the commanders just couldn’t pull out a win against the squealers up there, that was bad. And what a night game on Sunday night, my goodness, there is some, some adventure going on. The the Houston Texans and the Detroit Lions played two football games. Houston played the first half, Detroit played the second half and and what a wild finish to some wild and wacky as a guy who

Nestor Aparicio  03:37

manages money, you don’t want to throw five interceptions with your money in one season, right? No

Leonard Raskin  03:41

five intercept. Look. The guy had four interceptions in seven games and five in one night, and they won. We all had a bad day, right? We all have a bad day. And yeah, that’s when you pick all the stocks that go down in the same day. That’s a bad a bad

8

Nestor Aparicio  03:56

cities, colts, fans of fire and Flacco, when he threw the first two interceptions, and then all of a sudden they’re leading, you know, right? But, you know, I want to say this because you you mentioned something, and you’ll find this shocking, given my background. I only own one piece of college gear in my whole closet, anywhere in my There you go. I own one thing that has a college logo on and other than I own a Lamont Jordan Terps jersey that I had 20 years ago. 15 was a 15, but it was really big. It was too big for me, right? But right, I wore it. You know, even when I was fat, it was big for me. Um, so, like,

Leonard Raskin  04:33

So, what is that one thing I have an old Miss visor

Nestor Aparicio  04:37

that I bought, and this will really speak to the fun we had last time we taught college football, which is, do you rip the goal post down, or do you not? Do you march to the river in Vanderbilt from the West End? So we mentioned the Vanderbilt scenario with the Alabama and the goal post and going down right, I bought my Ole Miss. At I saw Jay Cutler play there. I bought my Ole Miss hat on vandy’s campus. When Ole Miss was there, they were selling gear, because there’s a lot of Ole Miss. I mean, the stadium was half empty. Rector said, Right, sure, it was Vander Ole Miss, right? And, you know, even though Jay Cutler was cute and all you know, it was more like a frat party with pretty girls in Nashville. It’s just 15 years, that’s right. So I have that have had that hat forever. So when Ole Miss and I’ve been the Vaught Hemingway, I broadcast from Oxford, Mississippi. Yeah, I love my time in Oxford. I mean, Elvis is grave, like the whole deal, right? Going to Memphis and put on my blue suede shoes bone in the plate. So I I’ve done all of that. And when Ole Miss, and I don’t know how this happened, Saturday, yes, I work my ass off, right? My wife and I have been working weekends, doing this, doing that, getting this ready. You know, I’m working on my business always, and things I want to work. Did yoga in the afternoon. Dog ass tired, six o’clock at night, and we parked ourselves, and I intended to work more, and she put on college football, and I sat. I didn’t fall asleep. I sat for five hours and I watched Ole Miss good dance storm, right? Yes, yes, all of the Alabama, or excuse me, you LSU, right, Alabama, Alabama. But I saw and I didn’t even know this, and this speaks to my ignorance. Yeah, and the n, i L Yeah, and the whole thing probably the death of Kirk herb Street’s dog, which affected us. He was here Thursday, when the dogs, yes, yeah. How much you love dogs, and I love cats. And like all of that made me hold my cat a little bit more over the weekend. Yes, indeed. Way, I think we all shed a team, right? I mean, so I’ll say this, I didn’t know the Terps were playing the number one team in the country. And I’ll say this, they

Leonard Raskin  06:58

8

played above their weight. I didn’t

Nestor Aparicio  07:00

know they were allowed to play Oregon. I’m just saying so I just want to admit that, and you can make fun in any way you want.

Leonard Raskin  07:06

Hey, now look, they they also, they gave him a good game too. They didn’t get blown out by any stretch. They they lost, but they put up a good fight. And you can’t ask for more than that, against the number one team in the country, in Oregon, that’s a tough place to play, and they’re really good. Oregon’s really good. They beat Ohio State by one point by cheating, but they won nonetheless. And so speaking,

Nestor Aparicio  07:32

we had the whole athletic director scandal over the weekend too, right? I could do 20 minutes on college football, and I barely watch it because it comes to me. I did two hours of Dion two weeks ago because I was talking all the Denver people, and that’s all they want to talk about Dion.

8

Leonard Raskin  07:47

And he won again. They won again. If Hunter, if this kid Hunter,

Nestor Aparicio  07:53

it’s the NFL in places where there’s no NFL, right, right? Well, they’re Colorado, yeah. But

Leonard Raskin  07:58

if this kid Hunter doesn’t win the Heisman, I don’t know what that awards for. I don’t know if you’ve watched any of their games. This kid is a first round, high number pick wide receiver that catches anything close to him and run routes like nobody’s business. And shadoor Sanders, Dion’s son is throwing it to him all over the field. He plays every snap and Zen. He is a shutdown corner and plays every single play on defense, and has picked the ball off and knocked guys out of the game the hell of a tackler, and this is why you want to watch them when they’re on this kid plays every single play. I don’t know if he’s on special teams, but he probably could kick field goals and run punts back if they asked him later.

Nestor Aparicio  08:49

8

I mean, and this, listen, I don’t want to get political this week, because I can give a kick because you lost, because the Mississippi thing. I could say the girls are prettier than ever, but they voted for fascism last week. So I could throw That’s right, that’s right. They voted for fascism. But I would say this on the Colorado side, from talking to them two weeks ago about it and Maryland with the reflective jerseys that we saw right Saturday. Yeah, they look good. They look like Danny Wiseman went. And I’ll say this. He went to a local Ford dealership that’s not sponsored here, not for it, right? So. But this is 30 years ago, and Danny, when he first got his money, became a Hall of Fame bowler. He bought the the Mustang on the dealership lot that Jeff Grossman showed me that change colors, it would be like iridescent. It would be, yeah, but then it would be purple. But then they did

Leonard Raskin  09:46

a new twist on the Maryland flag. I thought the uniforms were, you know why they wore that? Anybody

Nestor Aparicio  09:53

under 35 know what a mood ring is? You

09:55

think? No, no, that’s. Sure he has no idea. He has no idea, no, but he’s got Google. He could look it up. He

8

Leonard Raskin  10:05

could look it up, sure he’d figure it

Nestor Aparicio  10:07

out. Rings were the greatest thing ever, green and blue

Leonard Raskin  10:11

and black and red. It was like the greatest. It had. They were the greatest.

Nestor Aparicio  10:15

8

It had all the fiction built in it had. It was brilliant. Brilliant. Somebody

Leonard Raskin  10:19

made a quick fortune, one hit wonder, Texas, Midnight Runners, come on. Eileen,

Nestor Aparicio  10:24

what I’m being honest with you those lettering was that not a third ring,

Leonard Raskin  10:29

yes. But the point was, you know, Oregon has the like uniform of the week. They changed their uniforms every week. So Maryland, no, but that was the point. Marilyn had to go show up with something that was more than just a uniform. So they did, and they were, they look great. They look great. Be positive. Tell them more positive. Be positive. They

8

Nestor Aparicio  10:49

look great to be I’m about they look great. How did you like the Ravens on Thursday night? What? Where are you? And this was my observation. And I did the story the purple. Well, here I told this story at length for Luke, and I want to tell it for you. Yeah, and you might not know it, but you go ahead, dude. You ever long term listener, you told me, yes, you were at Whiskey Joe’s. That’s how long absolutely to me, right? Okay, Tampa Bay, baby, Tampa Bay. Friends and money together, long time you listen. I didn’t know you then, and I don’t know if you knew me when the dispute happened with David Modell about the flying B, right, right. I

Leonard Raskin  11:29

remember shoot him.

Nestor Aparicio  11:31

I remember so David and I were very close. I mean, I yeah, I’ve told this story a million times that we were close, but this is how close we were. On one issue, I saw David three times a week. Man, David didn’t run for me. David ran at me and said, Yeah, of course. People saying about my team. What are people saying? Well, how was your experience at the game last week? If you stopped fighting with the safe management people stop going on the radio and yelling at my team. I want to fix it. Come to me. That’s how David was, right. Yeah. So David gets sued. It’s ugly. He’s losing in court. Whatever happened happened, whether he stole it, borrowed it, didn’t want to pay for it, never wanted to admit that the drawings have whatever happened, right? David said we’re going to get a new logo. And I remember David being pissed, and he had a cigar, and they just got in the new stadium, and they’re trying to get their together and trying to not be the raisins, and trying to run away from four and 12 and, you know, I mean all of that right, kicking the dog. They say they had a bad reputation in 1998 99 right around the country, not with me, because I always saw their heart. I always saw that they were good, honest. I see it even more like, literally, after meeting Mr. Rubenstein and meeting Mr. Eric Getty, who I met them both, and dealing with Mr. Bucha, who I know well, like I it makes me relish people like David Modell even, yeah, sure, cherish them even more, right? David Modell never lied to me, and this will be a story. So he said to me, we’re not going to play under disputed mark. He’s my family. That was our crest. That was, that’s bullshit. I’m never admitted. I he’ll get a billion dollars from the league, but we’re going to do a new logo. We don’t. We’re not going to play under a disputed marking. That’s really what he said to me, like as words, yeah, yeah. So he says we’re going to get new logo and that sickle helmet B that they eventually became what we know as the Raven logo. The week that it was voted on, there were, like, free logo choices, yeah, Ravens fans voted yes. I remember the Baltimore Sun, right? Yep, yep. I’ll be really honest with you, Leonard, and this is, like, from my heart. I was a very influential dude at that point. People listen to me. You know that? Right? Yeah, the sun was so influential, right, that the pole was going to decide, theoretically, who knows what? David, yeah, right, do what they do. Do what they do. But I don’t think David was that way. David really. Because if David wanted to hear, if David had his way, he would have called the team, the Americans, because that’s really what he wanted to do, hmm, beyond train Americans. He America’s team. It would F with the Cowboys. He wanted to be the American, like, literally, that’s what he wanted to be. So he didn’t name the team that because he saw the overwhelming Edgar Allan Poe and the possibilities and, like, the marketing and the bird and the, you know, he liked all of that, sure. And with the thing that sold him. This is in Purple Rain. One the thing that sold him on Ravens. And this is before there was an internet. He went to the library. Think of it, the Enoch library. He looked up the word Raven and Gaelic, and it was Bertrand, which is Arthur’s middle name, Arthur B modell. Arthur Bertrand. Modell, Brown is Raven in some Gaelic length, like literally. So David, David was super stupid, superstitious, super superstitious, you know, like crazy. So he believed so when he said ravens meant to be my way is not the right way. And David had never had a problem with my way not being the right way ever right. So David said he. Are the logos the sun’s we’re going to do it in the sun, you know, like, how David would be right? The week that it happened, that you may or may not have voted, I don’t know. Yeah,

Leonard Raskin  15:09

8

I don’t remember too long ago. Who knows? Right? Right? Who knows

Nestor Aparicio  15:15

week it happened. I was so convinced that the kiss face thing was going to be the logo, because it was so much better looking than all of them that I was on vacation. I went literally, I went away to I was in Jamaica. I was in Australia. I might have been in Australia when it happened. I might have been in Austin. I have to really group now you’re going to make me look it up, because I want to be accurate, but I had no hand. I did not put my thumb on the scale. I was not on the radio when the poll happened, I wasn’t on the radio every day saying, vote for the kiss face. Vote for the kiss face because I just thought, like the kiss face is gonna win. Look how freaking awesome it is. That’s where I come at the logo last Thursday. I always thought the kiss face should have been the logo. And they put it on the helmet last Thursday, and they put it on the purple helmet, which I told David forever, get a purple when I already got it. Purple helmet. The Vikings were Northwestern we’re not going to look like we’re Washington University. We’re going to look like an NFL team. We’re going to wear black. And I’m like, dude, and I thought the Super Bowl jerseys we wore in 35 were too white. I didn’t think it had enough purple in it. I didn’t think the purple popped off the logo. I didn’t think it popped purple popped off the striping any more than those hideous Jaguar White helmets that they wore awful this week. So terrible, I’ll tell you this. I love the kiss face. I never lobbied for it. I’ve in my heart of hearts. Had I lobbied more and had it been legitimate, I feel like I could have put my thumb on a scale a little bit to make it the logo. I was blown away that they went with the B that they went with. I never loved it because it was backwards on one side of the house. Yeah, was it left in a right way? And I always thought that was kind of freaky and weird. And I thought have a front facing logo. And as Luke says, None of the logos in the league are front facing anymore. They’re all right, no rams horns. Kind of soda. So right, yeah. But for me, I thought the the actual decal was too small, but I love the helmet, and I’d love to see the helmet on a non cartoon jersey.

Leonard Raskin  17:16

There you go. There you go. What do you got? So, so I thought the purple was way cool. I thought originally, when they said they were going to wear it all, it was going to look like pajamas. And on a Thursday night game, Thursday night game, I’m thinking pajamas. And then you cap it off with the matte purple hat helmet with the Raven on the side, and you look like you’re wearing your pajamas with a helmet to go to bed. But I liked it. I thought it was cool looking. I thought it popped. I thought it was really good on Thursday night. And I like

Nestor Aparicio  17:49

it purple. I

8

Leonard Raskin  17:51

think it looks I like the gold, the gold mask, the gold face mask on the purple. I thought looked really good. One,

Nestor Aparicio  17:58

gold pants. Leonard Raskin, as we do fashion tweets here, one to 10 on the gold pants. Did you hate them?

Leonard Raskin  18:05

Think that burned them like I’m not liking the gold pants. I

Nestor Aparicio  18:07

8

like the gold pants more than most people do. I’m

Leonard Raskin  18:10

not liking the gold pants. No. Black, white, purple. Get rid of the gold pants. 6070s which I kind of we’re not the Pittsburgh bumblebees. No, I hate those. Those.

Nestor Aparicio  18:23

I’m not a big fan of Tom Brady or Brady Anderson, but I was big fan of the Brady Bunch. And there you go, that early 70s letter Raskin is here. He manages money, not doing it. And the American dream, you know, the purple light show. Where are you on a value meter with that as being something on the because everybody loves it.

Leonard Raskin  18:39

I love it. I love the wristbands with the the synchronized turn off the lights make the place crazy. I like the atmosphere. Look you got the band, you got the cheerleaders, you got the night with the lights on the wrists. It gives it that, that college feel of a pro football game. You know when, when the boy was at Ohio State for four years, the one thing that was crazy to me, with all the money they have the shoe is it holds 105,000 people in that stadium, and they have the old lights still that you have to turn on an hour before they warm up, you know, to get them ready. So they have night games all the time and no show. They can’t turn those lights off because they’re not LEDs. So that place is lit and it’s always lit, and there’s no show going on. And what a place to have some fun on that campus, if they would rock some red

8

Nestor Aparicio  19:40

when your kid was there, because, like, I will tell you this, I never had a kid that went to Maryland, right, right, but I have attended, you know, major college football games, right? Yeah, yeah, from Orange bowls to, you know, and I have been in most SEC stadiums, mostly for big ish kind of events, like the Daniel game wasn’t much, because. Because I was there for a raven game that weekend, so it wasn’t like but I’ve been there. I’ve been there twice. I mean, I’ve been there for I’ve been there for a basketball game, which I would tell anybody, go to Vanderbilt for a basketball game. It’s special. It’s unique. It’s different than any other place. I mean, there’s some things that I regret. Like I had never went to a game at Cameron, my kids been there. I’ve never went to a game at Indiana University back in the Bobby Knight throwing the chairs the little gym that they have there, right? But I’ve been to Penn State. I’ve been to, I haven’t been to Notre Dame, Ohio State, Michigan. I haven’t gone that way, but I’ve been to, to to with Madison, Wisconsin, but I’ve been throughout the SEC the shoe.

Leonard Raskin  20:38

It’s a good game, but it would be better if they could, they could have a little more of that, that crazy, wild on a night game. I went to about a half a dozen, about a half a dozen or eight games. And

Nestor Aparicio  20:48

where did you go? You went only to the shoe or G you went to, like, didn’t you go to the Georgia Dome for like, a gate? Didn’t you go

Leonard Raskin  20:54

8

to, oh yeah, oh yeah. Went to the went to the playoff games both years. Yes, indeed, went to Georgia, went to Dallas, watched him at Maryland. So we did three or four road games and about a half a dozen on campus.

Nestor Aparicio  21:08

I’m like, Listen, my wife, of all of the crap like that. We’ve done, yeah, from a Sports World Cups. We’ve done things, right? Yeah, yeah. Things in our life. The one thing that she hasn’t done a lot of that she thinks would be fun would be college football. Like, if I say it is great, hey, I’ve got Egg Bowl tickets in Mississippi two weeks from now for Mississippi. Mississippi, I’ve always told you the grove and, oh, by the way, it’s not going to be raining sideways the way it was Saturday, because I’ve been to the Grove, and I’ve been to, you know, between the hedges in

Leonard Raskin  21:47

Georgia. Yeah, big time college football is is wild Penn State during a white out

Nestor Aparicio  21:55

in Knoxville, Tennessee. Yeah, there you go. Lewis run the ball and watching team Martin throw it. That’s it. You know, it’s

8

Leonard Raskin  22:03

as good as it gets. Yeah, it’s a great atmosphere. It is. It is so different than than Pro, than NFL. Football, there are a few stadiums in the NFL where the fans are crazy rabid, like that, like a college game. I would say Seattle in the past, I don’t know how they are today, is like that Detroit right now is going nuts to go to Detroit and watch them play up there is pretty crazy.

Nestor Aparicio  22:30

Writing what they do at a Michigan game, right? Yeah,

Leonard Raskin  22:33

yeah, to a to a football stadium, and going nuts.

Nestor Aparicio  22:38

8

The ravens are aligned to transition fans by putting on the scoreboard when to cheer when not to cheer, like literally, that’s

Leonard Raskin  22:46

okay. Every week. Look, the people there are having a great time, and if it takes a little prodding to help some folks that don’t know better, okay, that’s not terrible, but you do see it every week in the club level. You do, yeah, but the place is pretty No, the place is pretty loud. The place is rocking. I don’t think people need that necessarily. I think it certainly helps get some people out of their chairs. But the place is pretty rocking. It’s a hard place to play a game as a road team. There is no doubt the record there is phenomenal as a home extraordinary.

Nestor Aparicio  23:12

I hear you 1,000,000% through, and I remember when Steelers fans couldn’t get in, and the reason they couldn’t get in, honestly, it was $300 to get in. And then I looked on my app Sunday, like 1230 got my cats cuddling up, and I got some and I’m seeing this Steelers commanders game right down the road and thinking, Yeah, nobody ever wanted a commander’s ticket in the Snyder era, right this come he’s been a wonder kind it drove the ticket prices through the roof here three weeks ago. Yeah, it was a home game. 350 bucks to get into that game on Sunday down there. And it was all Steelers fans like, yeah,

Leonard Raskin  23:48

it was a home game for the Steelers. And Sunday night was very bizarre. Watching Sunday night’s game in Houston, and they’re playing good ball and everybody it was a home game from Detroit. You know, I don’t think about people jumping on a jet from Detroit to get to Houston. I don’t know how that happened, but they took over that stadium. It sounded like a home game for the Lions. It was very bizarre. Well, they’ve waited college to be right, to be good, right now they’re good, and now they’re traveling. Can

8

Nestor Aparicio  24:15

you imagine if the Browns had the success that the patrons have had the Browns have fans like they you don’t see them, you don’t feel them, because, like Orioles, they had nothing to be proud of. By the way, Orioles, um Leonard Raskin is here. I’m wearing the rascal but tell me what you do with money real quick. Do your little spiel and then tell me what you do on the 20th too. Because I do want to talk about Stein, yes, indeed, yes. But I want to talk about off season money with the Orioles with

Leonard Raskin  24:43

you. Yes, yes, yes. So, so we do money. We do everything money. We do budgeting, we do protection, we do investment, we do estate plan, we do tax plan. We make sure that your money is working the way it should. The financial institutions and the government don’t tell you what to do with your money. At all properly. They have agendas. Their agenda is to make them profit. The government’s agenda is to take your money. Maybe the current new the new government, will take a little less of your money. Maybe the last time they were in there, they took less of everybody’s money. And next week, on our show, tariffs. That’s right. Hey, tariffs. Tariffs are a good thing to penalize the foreigners that don’t trade. Fair tariffs are horrible. If we have free trade, we don’t have free trade, we have to have fair trade, and fair trade starts with knocking the other guy in the mouth. Anyway, enough said. So we are about helping people figure out what to do with their money so that they can live their American dream. They can have the things they want do, what they want for those that they care about most, generally, people’s families. Is what they tell us, I want to have the kind of life that I can enjoy with my family. We want to help you do that. And on the 20th of November, coming up, and just we can change now, we will be having a Zoom meeting. More than welcome to come. It’s on the front of our website, Raskin global com. You click on the bottom right link to our calendar, and we will be talking about how to protect your wealth. A lot of people talk about how to grow your wealth, and they think that the only thing that matters is growing your wealth. I will tell you that it is very difficult to grow your wealth if you don’t protect your wealth, stuff happens, and when stuff happens, you’ve gotta make sure you’re bulletproof from the outside world. It would try to take your wealth that’s everything from car insurance to health insurance to disability insurance to life insurance to the way your assets are titled. We’re going to be looking and talking about all of those things, and what the industry tells you and what you should do, and where that dichotomy comes and why. So that’s on the 20th we’re going to be doing that, and we are all about protecting wealth, growing wealth, most importantly, helping people enjoy their wealth and transfer their wealth so that the takers of the world don’t come and steal it from your beneficiaries and the people you care about. All right, this

Nestor Aparicio  27:09

is a perfect segue to talk about wealth, yes, to talk about what you do and building wealth and independent capital and like all of that. Mr. Rubenstein, yeah. So you met him. No, no, so, but I want to give you all the credit that you richly deserve here, because I had, I had Viviano on telling the whole story about Kevin Butler, giving him the tip on art modell, we’ve already mentioned Arthur Bertrand modell in this piece, right? Make sure I give full credit that when I get the tip about who the new owner is going to be and that the team is going to be sold that I will always say, you know, it was Raskin. I think he brought that up with me. I did on the air one day. Yeah, a guy named Rubenstein to keep his eyes on that. And you told me about it, maybe in the summer, maybe I don’t tell me talking so last, and anybody wants to read my letter to David Rubenstein, which I would have read to him in front of him, reference it when I saw him, and I’ll be, you know, completely, um, I didn’t talk to Luke about meeting him. I will talk to you about it, and you can ask me, yeah, what happened? If you wish I had a I’m was much more. I had a beautiful night at bath to fill out, to be really honest. But yeah, and Mark rembom grabbed me on the door and said, you’re sitting with my family. And everywhere I looked, I saw people I knew, and we had a long talk about Judaism and Christianity and politics on the night before the election, and I got to meet the young rabbi who had stories and Mr. Rubens. So I had a beautiful night. This was the night before the election. So Monday, the whatever it was, right between the two football games, right there was 4878 72 hours. And it was a football game and election, and I spent three hours hearing Mr. Rubenstein do a thing, and then I met him briefly, but you were the one that told me he would be the guy. Um, in some way he said he wasn’t going to be the guy because of the leonesus thing. And I think he would have bought the Nationals. I don’t think he was married to the I think the He came to save Baltimore happened when the Nationals thing didn’t who would want to have the Nationals they were encumbered by whoever bought the Orioles? Right? Right? So I’ll just say this on the Rubenstein thing two hours into it. He doesn’t know a lot about baseball, and I learned that quickly that if I were to sit with him, I’d be respectful of fact that we’re not going to talk about Cal ripkens batting at me like he’s not that guy at all. Because to your point, you think you’ve managed money a little bit and done a good job. He’s a money guy. How deeply you have to study money, yes, to build billions of dollars of wealth. I want you to tell me your pathway to Rubens. I had never heard of him till his names came off of your his name came off your lips. Yeah. And the next thing I know, John Iran saying he’s buying the Orioles, and we’re all like wanting to see his television show, and he the Magna Carta and all this that I don’t something I don’t care about, that I’d love to talk to him about that, but I don’t think I’m ever gonna have a. Baseball conversation with Mr. Rubenstein, I don’t think he’s ever going to feel versed enough to want to sit down and really talk about baseball, because I don’t think he’s that interested in it.

Leonard Raskin  30:08

8

Yeah, but he owns it and and he’s the guy, and he gets to make the decisions, and he gets to write the big checks, and now he owns all of it with whoever his partners are that are funding some of that, and he’s got big, deep pockets, and he hangs out with guys that have big, deep pockets, and that’s what they talk about, how to make their pockets bigger and deeper. And so he’s a billion, multi billionaire, and he hangs out with those guys. And and the Orioles became available, and he had the opportunity, and he took it. So now the question is, what’s he going to do? This? This is obviously his first year, and we got a lot of free agents out in the marketplace. We got a lot of free agents of our own. And the question is, what’s he going to do about that? And how much money is he going to spend on boom? So I don’t know. I don’t know his baseball acumen, and obviously Mike Elias is running that ship.

Nestor Aparicio  30:57

Yeah, I don’t think he’s going to be like the antithesis of Peter, to some degree, is whatever you guys think is best gonna happen, but I don’t know where the money line would be, because he said things that night and I didn’t record it. In my mind, I’m listening to every word, right? I listening to it and realizing he goes place to place and does this. This is a routine. This is like the Brian Billick speech that I saw a dozen times, that you may have seen three times or twice if you went out to accelerate not everything, but the who I am speech, this is not the first time he got on stage and literally monolog for 55 minutes about his life and growing up in Baltimore, and his dad, who’s the postal worker, and how he was a bad lawyer and work for Jimmy Carter like I can recite most of it, honest to God, Leonard as God is my witness, right in your house of worship, I didn’t know any of it because I have not studied him. I didn’t want to be a guy that studied him. I wanted to be a guy who met him right and City College and vibed it out and said, What will he come on once a year and tell truth? Is he going to tell the truth the Bal or himself or to the people? How is he coming at this? Why did he buy the team? What are his goals? What’s in it for him? Beside a seat behind him play Leonard, he said a lot of telling things the other night. One of them was, I went to 38 baseball games this year. 38 more than I’ve gone to the last 50 years. Yep, yep. And I’m thinking to myself, Wow, you missed a lot. And he’s not young. He’s not a young dude. I’m thinking to myself that, why did you buy the team? You really are getting off on being famous. You have a large ego, because you like to talk about your famous friends and sure things you do while you poo, poo it. So I get that sort of, let me tell you how important I am, but it’s, let me make fun of it a little bit. Let me, you know, and like, I get all of that. And it was impressive. He’s an impressive man. Yeah, all of that. When I got up on him to talk to him, after waiting in line, everybody was sort of waiting and and it was a really lovely time I’ve been in. I don’t want to be disrespectful. Called sanctuary. The sanctuary, right? It’s beautiful. Yeah, it’s like it belongs in Hawaii. It’s so wooden. It’s just beautiful, yep, um, and I saw Don Felder perform there a few years ago. And I also was invited when I wrote Purple Rain two. And I didn’t do it there. I did it in another part, where it was down below, where I gave a raven speech, basically, and sold books because I was invited. I wrote a book on the right. They wanted me to come in to be a speaker, and I did, and that was dozen years ago, but my experience is there, so I waited to the end, and I came up, and most people just laughed. They were like, you know, yeah, it’s over nine o’clock zombie. I didn’t need to meet him or whatever, and I didn’t want anything other than to go up and say, I heard you reference my cousin in a way. I said, I’ve owned a radio station here. He told me to call Chris Ullman. I told him. I called Chris Ullman, and I said, he said, Why don’t you have a press pass? And I said, exactly what I said to Mr. Ohlman. I said, David, there’s been a lot of trauma here. And I said, and you sign an autographs, and which is he was doing? He was signing on, yeah, of course. I didn’t want a picture. I didn’t want an autograph, and I didn’t want to monopolize right? I just wanted to meet him exactly, and, and I said to him, there’s been a lot of trauma here, and those 10,000 seats in the upper deck are associated with Mr. Angelos, and I think you should know that. And he moved on from me. He didn’t want to engage in any way. Yeah, right, sure. Just moved down the line, and I moved down the line and said hello to the rabbi who gave a beautiful speech, yeah, on the night before an election, right? You know about all sorts of things. You know, we sang national anthems. It was, it was great. I mean, I I’m so happy. I went Greg ash. I want to give Greg Bruno Sammartino a big shout out, because he texts me on like, Sunday night. I’m watching football. Was after the Ravens game short week. He’s like, Mr. Rubenstein is doing this thing on Tuesday. And I’m like, election night. I think you went over there election night. Say No, no, no, I messed up. It’s Monday, it’s Monday, and I, like, it was a short notice thing, Leonard, I should have reached to you to go. But, like, I don’t know, like, that’s all right, it’s all good. It was, it was open to the public, right? You know, I saw Tom Davis there. I saw, yeah, there. But like, I um, I’m glad I did it. I’m glad I said hello, but I’m not, I’m not throwing rocks, I’m not chasing I mean, I should have a media pass, and I’ll begin every conversation with that, and I will feel segregated until that point, and because it’s what they’ve done is wrong, but Mr. Angeles that was wrong, he can admit that by inviting me back in. That’s up to him, right? But I’m that’s not going to stop me from saying what I’m going to say, how I’m going to say it. Absolutely. I was delighted to meet him, and I put effort into meeting him, and I put effort into trying to get to know him, and I don’t expect him to I learned a lot, and I think I haven’t lowered my bar of expectations for what I expect from them, from him, who interviews other people that he should come and sit on my show as a man, as a human, and sit next to me for an hour and just talk about things I’m not I have no gotcha questions, right? I’m not gonna let him do the 45 minute soliloquy that he does on the end. I’m gonna ask 45 minutes worth of questions that he hadn’t been asked before. Sure, and I’m not gonna provide the questions ahead of time. No, you know, so that’s crazy, but, but I, I, I am so excited by the fact that I was in New York City walking 25 miles on Wednesday, Thursday, and I stopped in the baseball store to look around, and I’m watching every thing they’re doing. And Juan Soto that we have an off season here, and we have a new thing and a going concern, I want to see what gets new right. And let’s see what

Leonard Raskin  36:45

we spend. Let’s see what we spend and who we spend it on. And can we pitch and can we hit? That’s what matters, and they’ll feel fine. Can we pitch and can we hit? And

Nestor Aparicio  36:57

want them to feel like you’re going to support it no matter what they do, because that’s crazy. That’s crazy. I haven’t supported it, and I haven’t supported it. We haven’t given them money. Speaking of money, you want to get a veteran in here? Because

8

Leonard Raskin  37:09

let’s do it quick. Look, here’s here’s the the deal on this guy, let’s face it, the greatest goal scorer in the history of hockey. Gretzky’s greatest player, by far, revolutionized the Game Change the sport. But when he scored, goalie pads were smaller, the rules weren’t the same. It was just a different game. And he scored a ton. And here’s the end of it all, I think. And you’ll know these stats, or you’ll find them, Gretzky scored, I think, seven, seven goals in his last season, when, after he was 38 years old, Ovechkin, in the first 14 games this year, has scored 10 goals at 39 years Old and is still skating like a Russian bull and knocking guys over in the corner, going for the puck.

Nestor Aparicio  38:06

Joe Flacco is still standing back in the pocket and throwing and throwing perceptions, throwing quarters,

Leonard Raskin  38:13

throwing dimes and interceptions all over the field, but Ovechkin has the the capitals and a mindset that this record of for those of you that don’t know, scoring more goals than any player in the history of the NHL

Nestor Aparicio  38:30

8

reading machine trying to get it done this year, he doesn’t have to come back next year, and he

Leonard Raskin  38:36

is 32 goals from the record, and he is scoring on a pace to do that in March. And everybody thought he wouldn’t do it till next year, January of 26 and he’s on pace to do it in March of this year. Well, when you talk

Nestor Aparicio  38:51

about appreciating whatever amazing, right? Yes, whatever, we have seen something here, and I watched him, Yes, take the Stanley Cup from my table, absolutely and march it down the strip. Um, we’ve seen something here that, to your point, something that involves greatness, something that it is good to see. By the way, his name came up. Yeah, the days with Mr. Rubenstein is saying that Ted was going to buy the Orioles because he was Greek and Peter was Greek, and they had a relationship, literally, well, that’s what, that’s weird. So, so they had a relationship, and they were going to do this and that, and the television network, and he was good, and he’s saying, and then all of a sudden, you know, John angelos, this became available. I put a group together. I’m from Baltimore. It makes sense in the world. I wanted to do something for the city like and here we are now. The question is, how do you build that legacy when you’re set right? Question for Rubenstein, you’re 74, years old. What are you trying to you’re a billionaire. You’re having a good time. You’re

Leonard Raskin  39:49

sitting behind does he have kids? I don’t know his family story. I don’t know if he plans on having his kids come in and do it or what. But he doesn’t have a a long No, no. He

8

Nestor Aparicio  39:58

has a dog way of ownership. Google,

Leonard Raskin  40:00

yeah, right, right, right. I

Nestor Aparicio  40:02

remember that. Yes, yes, yes. Wife that ran a newspaper in Alaska, very Trump committed your side of the political Yes, yes. Google, all of this, I don’t know whether I’m all that interested in asking that. In that, if you were to say, Well, I’m saying, what

Leonard Raskin  40:16

8

happens? How

Nestor Aparicio  40:17

long does he keep like, what, you know, the baseball side of this and the money side of this, right? And how long does he keep leaving behind for my city? That’s all I get it.

Leonard Raskin  40:25

But I’m wondering what he’s going to leave behind to who, I don’t know who’s next.

Nestor Aparicio  40:30

So you’re a financial guy, that’s what you right? I’m

8

Leonard Raskin  40:32

thinking about the estate situation. That’s what I’m wondering. How’s he got a guy like you? I think I would imagine he’s got a number of guys like me, and they’re all talking to him about it, like, like, What the hell are you doing? David, what are you doing?

Nestor Aparicio  40:46

Is that? What you would say you’re investing? Would you say that?

Leonard Raskin  40:49

I would say, why are we doing this? What, you know, I talk to clients all the time about focusing on their strength. We’ve talked about, you do what you do. I’ll handle the money. You do what you do. When you take your eyes off of that, start doing other things, things have

Nestor Aparicio  41:03

8

shot. He would say the 10,000 hour rule. Like all of that, you can take you 10,000 hours, right? But he’s a good baseball owner, right? You don’t have 10,000 hours. You’re 7474 What are you gonna do a good baseball man, I don’t know. I mean, in many times, talk about Elias and Griggs and they’re gonna handle and he’s on to the next person he’s interviewing. He and Crystal next, spinning his spin of the Magna Carta. And what a good American, right? What a good Jewish American he is. He giving money to this group, giving money to that group, and God bless group, and coming in, and we’re going to make the Orioles good. But he’s a helicopter owner here, right? Like, I

Leonard Raskin  41:37

gotta call it what it is, right? He’s hanging out with the with the commanders. And I don’t, right? I

Nestor Aparicio  41:41

don’t see him as

Leonard Raskin  41:43

into a Ravens game. He’s hanging out with the commanders. I saw him on the sidelines of the commanders. By the

8

Nestor Aparicio  41:52

way, there are pictures, and I’m going to leave with this, the

Leonard Raskin  41:55

pictures. We have pictures. We have pictures. I have evidence, alright?

Nestor Aparicio  41:59

And I know you think the great eight is only one grade eight who’s hair’s greater than yours, by the way, certainly, Yeah, Alex, we had another number eight here. You familiar. I know the guy he wore orange and black. I know the guy little city up in Aberdeen dedicated to him. I know the guy he was pictured at the burgundy and gold plates. I know, I know I saw and I saw it, and that’s why he’s, you’re ducking me. Cal, don’t be ducking me. He was

Leonard Raskin  42:27

8

there with, he was there with, I think David, I I can’t blame him for doing that 30 years. You could do that once in your life. You know. Come on, 30 years I

Nestor Aparicio  42:41

have managed to, you know, let that go, let the jack can’t cook. And, yeah, no, when Governor Schaefer sat next to me with tears in his eyes, right, I wasn’t gonna let Jack can’t cook. Put that football team in Laurel. I told him, you put the team in Laurel. You won’t have any roads going to Laurel. That’s right. Red helicopters to bring people. That’s right. So yeah, so I go, come on, dude, build a museum. You and I have many Irv cross and Brent Musburger and Jimmy the Greek in the 80s, early 90s, where we were helicoptered in, fed the Washington football team. Thank you. Now good enough to beat the Steelers when we needed them. Still,

Leonard Raskin  43:21

still the Redskins to me, and sorry, Steelers on Sunday, never stealers. I only cheered for him because they were beating the Steelers and they couldn’t do it, alright, man, well,

Nestor Aparicio  43:33

you’re still a Republican. I’m still a Democrat. Amen sides independently, Trump day, baby.

8

Leonard Raskin  43:38

There we go. You know, we, did

Nestor Aparicio  43:40

get a larry hogan man, if we’re going to talk about things, yeah, that

Leonard Raskin  43:44

that not, not beat I told you, yeah, well, I told you, you know, three to one, two to one, three to one state Democrat.

Nestor Aparicio  43:51

8

I listened two weeks ago. We all know these elections are crooked, right? That’s right, they’re all crooked, yeah, right, they’re

Leonard Raskin  43:57

all crooked. I

Nestor Aparicio  43:58

remember January 6 now we have every day is January 6. That’s right. We’ll see. That’s right. I hope we survive it. That’s

Leonard Raskin  44:04

all. We’ll survive it perfectly fine. And America, we will survive, and we will all be wealthy and healthy and wise in our own homes. And let’s face it, if we had the way it should be, the way our our Founding Fathers intended it to be, the federal election, wouldn’t mean 10, 1/10 of what it means today. Government should be local. Three lesson next week, yeah, we’ll do Federalist Papers and we’ll talk about the the government next time.

8

Nestor Aparicio  44:29

Alright, and I’ll do Schoolhouse Rock here. Okay, there we go, with Democrats and Republicans. Amen here.

Leonard Raskin  44:36

Amen this year and friends and still able to talk and not hate each other. Larry

Nestor Aparicio  44:40

Hogan did not come on this program because Larry Hogan chose to not come on this program, and neither did also Brooks. She canceled on me twice,

Leonard Raskin  44:47

8

right? She was worse. She was worse. I stood

44:50

up. I wrote

Nestor Aparicio  44:51

to her people on Sunday night and said, Hey, come on now. You’re the Senator. Now, what? Now? What? People never had a problem having a crab cake with the ballroom Amen.

Leonard Raskin  44:59

Amen, there you go. Now, come on and talk. There you go. Alright. There you go, Alright, my friend,

8

Nestor Aparicio  45:05

we’ll shake hands across the across Absolutely, um, my friends at the Maryland lottery, our friends at Liberty, pure solutions. Uh, wanting under clean water. Uh, water is not Democratic or Republican, nor key bridges and there’s well water. You got well water you need friends like Liberty Pierce, hey man, clean water. I am back for more. We’ve I’m getting everywhere this week. I am doing something really cool next week. I’ve decided, since the ravens are playing on Monday night and going to Hollywood, yes, we’re going to do a Music Week next week. It’s International Music Day next Friday. So I’m going to unearth all of my modern music conversations next week here at am 1570 so I’m taking a little not a sabbatical or deep breath

Leonard Raskin  45:47

all the hardball bowl, baby. Well,

Nestor Aparicio  45:50

I’ll go back. I have a lot of visits with Jack and Jim Harbaugh. Yeah, there you go for the radio as well. So well, we’ll Whoa. Dust off the musty oldies, Golden Oldies around here. He’s Leonard. I’m Nestor. Please, Rasky global on the 20th managing money, managing your wealth, very, very important. We’ll be telling you more about it around here. I’m Nestor. We are wnst. Am 1570 Taos in Baltimore, and I promise when we come back, it’ll be Pittsburgh week. Here. They still suck. You.