Antisemitism is on the rise all over the planet and it must addressed and discussed. Dr. Elliot King of Loyola University Maryland educates Nestor about the Cardin Lecture series theme for this fall and the visit from acclaimed author Dara Horn, whose controversial book title “People Love Dead Jews” has sparked open conversations, will speak on October 21st at McGuire Hall.
Nestor Aparicio and Dr. Elliot King discussed the Jerome S. Cardin Memorial Lecture on antisemitism featuring author Dara Horn at Loyola University Maryland on October 21. Dr. King highlighted the polarization on college campuses and praised Loyola’s harmony. He emphasized the importance of addressing antisemitism, noting Jews are the largest targets of religious hate crimes in America. Horn’s book, “People Love Dead Jews,” critiques American culture’s focus on historical Jewish achievements over current antisemitism. The lecture aims to foster Jewish-Christian relations and combat contemporary antisemitism.
Cardin Lecture Series Introduction
- Nestor Aparicio introduces the show, mentioning the Maryland crab cake tour and the upcoming football games.
- Nestor discusses the Jerome S. Cardin memorial lecture with author Dara Horn on October 21 at Loyola University Maryland.
- Nestor welcomes Dr. Elliot King, a communications professor at Loyola University, to discuss the lecture series.
- Dr. King comments on the changing demographics of students, noting they are getting younger.
Challenges of College Campus Polarization
- Nestor and Dr. King discuss the polarization on college campuses over the past decade.
- Dr. King highlights the difficulty of having reasonable conversations about difficult topics on some campuses.
- Nestor compares the polarization on college campuses to his Facebook page.
- Dr. King mentions that Loyola campus has been a picture of harmony, thanks to its Jesuit values.
Historical Context of the Cardin Lecture Series
- Dr. King explains the historical context of the Cardin lecture series, focusing on fostering Jewish-Christian relationships.
- Jerome S. Cardin was a prominent figure in the Jewish community in Baltimore in the 1960s.
- The lecture series is organized by different departments at Loyola, with this year focusing on communications.
- Dara Horn, a well-known novelist, will be speaking on Jewish-Christian relations.
Dara Horn’s Book and Lecture
- Nestor and Dr. King discuss Dara Horn’s provocative book “The Haunted Present” and her lecture on October 21.
- Dr. King explains that Horn’s book “People Love Dead Jews” argues that American culture often overlooks the prevalence of anti-Semitism.
- Horn’s thesis is that the Jewish community is still a target of religious-based hate crimes in America.
- Nestor shares his personal experience visiting the Anne Frank House and the impact it had on him.
Anti-Semitism and the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict
- Nestor and Dr. King discuss the challenges of having conversations about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
- Dr. King emphasizes that opposing Israeli government policy is legitimate but not the same as denying the Jewish people’s right to a homeland.
- Nestor shares his concerns about being labeled anti-Semitic for speaking out against certain Israeli policies.
- Dr. King explains that many Jewish people in Israel also oppose the current government’s policies.
The Role of Education in Addressing Anti-Semitism
- Dr. King discusses the importance of addressing anti-Semitism in education, using the example of teaching “The Merchant of Venice.”
- Horn argues that teaching anti-Semitic literature normalizes anti-Semitism.
- Dr. King mentions that Horn wrote her book because she was tired of explaining anti-Semitic incidents to the media.
- Nestor shares his experience of seeing armed guards at synagogues, highlighting the fear and normalization of anti-Semitism.
Changes in College Campuses Over the Years
- Nestor and Dr. King discuss the changes in college campuses over the years.
- Dr. King notes that college used to be a weeding-out process, but now it is more supportive of students.
- The impact of COVID-19 on the psychology of the current generation is significant.
- Loyola University has maintained a small, intimate campus with a tight-knit community.
The Importance of the Cardin Lecture Series
- Nestor emphasizes the importance of the Cardin lecture series in addressing anti-Semitism and fostering understanding.
- Dr. King highlights the need for thoughtful and loud conversations about anti-Semitism.
- The lecture series aims to educate the community and address the prevalence of anti-Semitism.
- Nestor encourages listeners to attend the lecture on October 21 at Loyola University.
SUMMARY KEYWORDS
Cardin Lecture, antisemitism, Dara Horn, Loyola University, Jewish Christian relations, college campuses, polarization, hate crimes, Anne Frank, Israeli government policy, Palestinian conflict, Jewish community, higher education, campus safety, diversity.
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SPEAKERS
Nestor Aparicio, Dr. Elliot King
Nestor Aparicio 00:01
Welcome home. We are W, N, S, T, am 1570 Towson, Baltimore. We are Baltimore. Positive. Always getting ready for the football games this week, and every week, Luke is out in Owings Mills. I’m out doing the Maryland crab cake Tour presented by the Maryland lottery. I’ll have some Raven scratch offs to give away. Let’s see. Faith leads this week cost us next week, Coco’s the week after that. And by the time we get to my next segment, by the end of the month, we will have toward crab cakes all over the place. And I drive by the Loyola campus all the time. And every year we get together and we talk about a lecture previews. And this year, very important topic, anti semitism, the Jerome s Cardin memorial lecture with author Dara horn will be held on Tuesday, October 21 at the Loyola University Maryland, McGuire Hall, right on campus, right here in beautiful Baltimore, and here to talk about all things communications. Professor, I’m a communicator, Elliot King, and we I love having professors on I love talking about things like this that educate folks, especially on college campuses around here. I don’t I went to college once. It’s been a little while, but when I come on the college campuses now, it’s amazing to me how much different it is. And I know you’ve been a professor for a week or two, life’s a little different. If I were like Rodney Dangerfield, went back to school now, I’d find things a little different Loyola, wouldn’t I?
Dr. Elliot King 01:19
Yeah, I would say that that’s very, very true. One thing that’s really curious, the students keep getting younger and younger. I have no idea why.
Nestor Aparicio 01:26
8Well, I mean, we’re, you know, and it’s like when the suits get smaller in the closet, you wonder what’s going on. So communications professor, my degrees from the University of Baltimore in corporate communication, 1992 they taught me how to make videos to work for like Acme X company to make corporate training video. You know, that’s what I went to school for. I’ve been a sports radio guy for 35 years and a journalist all these years. For you, with these series and lectures, and the things you teach on a daily basis, I think on an on an annual basis, when you’re bringing in someone to lecture, there’s a whole you’re trying to get more people in than just people interested in the topic, or taking a taking class on the topic anti semitism. We’re right into the heart of everything going on in the world right now, with hatred in general, and trying to teach people more about love than hate on college campuses.
Dr. Elliot King 02:17
So true. And one of the really shocking things over, I’m gonna say, over the last 10 years, really, that happened on college campuses has been how polarized the campus has gotten and how much dissension and how difficult it has been to have reasonable conversations about difficult topics. And both sides have polarized, one side chats down the other side. It goes back and forth like that. Unfortunately, that is
Nestor Aparicio 02:46
like my Facebook page. Prof,
Dr. Elliot King 02:50
undoubtedly it is. Fortunately, I want to add not on Loyola campus. Loyola campus has been a, really a picture of harmony and people being able to talk to each other, even about very difficult topics, which has been a been a real blessing at Loyola, that we’ve been sort of spared a lot of that polarization. I’m going to give it over to our Jesuit values have helped us there, but it’s very difficult to have these conversations, and especially over the last two years, it’s been so shocking to me on these, you know, marquee campuses, Columbia, Harvard, UCLA, just the shouting down, the Anger, the bituperation that goes on around these difficult issues, and then we saw it, of course. The epitome of that was the murder of Charlie Kirk, wherever you wherever you stand on what Charlie Kirk stood for, wherever your position was shocking.
8Nestor Aparicio 03:58
We commoditize racism and hatred, in a way that’s just so I do business with Coppin State. Coppin State, you know, I have their profits on all the time. We talk about all sorts of issues of HBCUs in Baltimore and things that power Baltimore, and kids coming from other places that make Baltimore stronger. Loyola has always been one of those campuses. I mean, you know, I was young once and running around to concerts at REITs arena and basketball games. Jimmy Pat So, so, I mean, I’ve been on and off the campus, but I went to Towson last year on a day when the new president was coming in, Dr Ginsberg was coming in, and I went over to to it was literally getting to know you with a lot of the students. And I got invited on the campus because I’m a Towson business. I my research. And I went over the day I was there for performative purposes. There were a lot of television cameras on campus, in general, because they were bringing the new president. So of course, the Palestinian Gaza all of that. There was a protest for the cameras like and so I saw it. And everybody in the communications departments there is making sure that it’s not a Charlie. Incident, making sure that it’s just a protest. And it stayed, but I walked in on that year ago, and I thought, wow, this is a little different than it was at UB, when I went to night school and just went to school and and how polarizing it can be. Then you add racism, you ask classism, you add sex, because all of the gender issues, all of all of that. I remember when college is where we sorted this out, where we all could get together and talk about it, which is where we learned diversity, which is where we learned a liberal arts education. To say, I know a little bit about everything, and I know enough to be educated, enough to not be a racist, to not hate people based on gender, correct, religion, any, any of those social ails. And I think it’s fundamental for especially for young people, as we’re not allowed to teach it apparently, in schools anymore in a lot of places in this country, and they burn in books that college would be a place where that wouldn’t be the case. And I know maybe that speaks to the cardinal lecture, maybe a little bit of the history of why you do these lectures to sort of open people’s minds a
Dr. Elliot King 06:02
little bit. Well, that’s exactly, that’s the exactly the point as Jerome Cardin was a central figure in the Jewish community here in Baltimore in the 1960s he was a, a major character, a big philanthropist, a banker, back in the day before there was five banks in the country. You know when there was community banks and regional banks,
Nestor Aparicio 06:24
and you remember provident mercantile? And, hey,
Dr. Elliot King 06:28
8there was a bank. There was a bank here called Loyola bank. At one
Nestor Aparicio 06:31
time there, I still have the passbook.
Dr. Elliot King 06:35
We had our own bank named after Loyola. It was awesome.
Nestor Aparicio 06:38
But don’t trust bought it. Trust me, I know all about it. There you go.
8Dr. Elliot King 06:41
And and so anyway, he was a loyal graduate, prominent figure in the Jewish community, and he endowed a lecture series that was specifically targeted at fostering Jewish Christian relationships. And so what it goes the way the series is organized, every every year, one of the departments at Loyola gets to invite a speaker who’s sort of associated with their discipline, so a historian, somebody in literature, a philosopher, a theologian, and this year was our year communications, and we invited Dara horn to to give this lecture on Jewish Christian relations.
Nestor Aparicio 07:29
Dara horn will be speaking over at Loyola University. By the way, Ellie King is my is my guest. He’s a communications professor at Loyola University. A few years, how many years?
Dr. Elliot King 07:38
Oh, just 33 short years, all communications, all communications.
Nestor Aparicio 07:43
8Well, how we communicate? I I learned Marshall McLuhan back when I was in college in 1991 and the medium is the message and all of that stuff. So Darryl horn comes in on the 21st let’s talk about the lecture. And she got a very provocative book title. You know, I so as far as people coming out and having, uh, provocative. That was Charlie Kirk’s thing. Was provocative, um, in the haunted present Darryl horns dream for living Jews. Um, let’s talk about this a little bit, what she will be discussing, and what your expectations for, uh, folks in our audience might want to come out and be a part of this and hear what she has to say on the 21st
Dr. Elliot King 08:20
so, so, okay, that’s the title of her lecture, the title of her book which really attracted our attention. She’s, by the way, a very good novelist, and is known as a she’s written about six books, and they’re, I highly recommend her novels. They’re very interesting. The book that caught our attention and why we’re bringing her, she wrote a collection of essays called people love dead Jews, which is a very provocative title. And the first sentence of the lead essay in the book starts, people love dead Jews. Live Jews, not so much. And what her main thesis is, is the way that Jews are looked at in American culture now, sort of takes our eye off the ball about how prevalent anti semitism still exists the Jewish community. God bless in America. Post World War Two, America has been a wonderful, wonderful time to be Jewish people, but there’s still quite a lot of anti semitism. Used to be under the surface, actually, over the last several years, not so much under the surface that if you look at the statistics, Jews are the largest targets of religious based hate crimes in America, and we’ve unfortunately hold that. We’ve held that title for quite a number of years. And so to understand exactly what she’s saying in that first essay, it leads off with the idea that Anne Frank, the Diary of Anne Frank. Everybody reads The Diary of Anne Frank in high school. It’s sort of a compelling account of World War Two, of the Holocaust. And the most favorite line of the book in Anne Frank is towards the end of the book, she says, despite everything that has happened, I still believe that people are basically good, and people love that line. How resilient that line is, how wonderful she is. This young teenager who’s hiding from Nazi persecutors can say, I still believe people are good. And what Dara horn argues is that takes our eye off the ball, that three weeks later, people who were very bad killed her, and we lose track of that. And what we look at looking back at what Jews have accomplished in Jewish civilization has accomplished over the years, we look back at it in a way that gets in the way of us seeing actually the degree of anti semitism that still exists and still has to be combated.
Nestor Aparicio 11:19
I’ll tell you this i i probably cheated and read the Cliff Notes in high school with the Diary of Anne Frank. But then I went to the house about four years ago in Amsterdam. I’ve been to Amsterdam half dozen times in my life, in my 20s and my 30s, my 40s, you go for different reasons. I was there a couple of years ago. Now in my 50s. I’ll be 57 in a couple of weeks, and I spent the three hours and did the tour and got locked in the room and came out. And I don’t say wrecked my vacation, but I wrecked my vacation. It was, you know, I went from having a good time in Amsterdam, being in Amsterdam, to wow, you know, I mean, I should have taken that book a little more seriously in 1984 Miss Monday gave it to me in high school at Dundalk. Yeah, I would say this on the anti semitism piece. And this is my online this is my own personal if, if Darrah were here and I were interviewing her, talk to her, I find it very difficult as a non Jew to have these conversations about Palestine and Gaza, because I don’t believe in genocide. No Jew should either. And any defense of anything Palestinian comes off as anti I mean, I’ve been called anti semitic several times this year and and I had a long chat with Chris Van Hollen, Senator Van Hollen, who joins me often here about him being called in every time I share anything of him. He gets called anti semitic because he doesn’t want every every Palestinian wiped off the face of the earth. And you know, I felt I followed Greta Thunberg, and I see what’s going on in the water there. And I say, you just in a general sense, and what Netanyahu is about, and it’s closer align with Trump for me. And that doesn’t make me anti semitic. I want everyone to get along, but I think there is a if you speak out, you will be called anti semitic. And I think that that’s, that’s, that’s dangerous, that’s dangerous.
Dr. Elliot King 13:05
Yeah, absolutely. So just to be totally transparent, I’m anti Netanyahu too. Oh, and guess what? By the way, I’m also anti genocide. Now I also don’t think that,
8Nestor Aparicio 13:15
which makes me throw Jewish because I’m anti because I didn’t have to go to Dachau and to know what happened there, I’m not a denier. It’s awful history that’s trying to be erased by people who are anti semitic, by the way, exactly.
Dr. Elliot King 13:30
And this is one of the really, really, really complicated things of this present moment, of what, of what we are talking about, too. Because there are a lot of Jewish people who are completely opposed to the way that Netanyahu is conducting the war in Gaza. And guess where most of them live? They live in Israel. About 60 or 70% of the Israelis oppose.
Nestor Aparicio 13:56
Well, they know the hatred puts them in peril.
Dr. Elliot King 14:01
8They’re in peril, believe me, they’re not pro Hamas. You know they’re not. They’re not Kumbaya. They’re not they under, they under. They understand it. But in Israel, every week for two years, 1000s of people have been protesting Netanyahu, well, for one year, protesting the war. Before that, they were protesting other don’t
Nestor Aparicio 14:22
kill these people’s babies. Don’t Don’t do that. Don’t stop these people. That seems to be fundamentally what your religion breaches in kindness and in the state of Judaism, you mean like I, I just don’t understand the violent part of it, and I’m not there, and I see it from afar, and it it, it frightens all of us. I think it does.
Dr. Elliot King 14:48
It does. And so here’s the line, here’s here’s the line on that. And here’s the line to me between being anti Israeli government policy, which is two. Totally legitimate, because as a Jewish person, I am anti Israeli government policy, although right now, this moment today, looks hopeful that maybe we’ll bring an end to it. And as much as whatever my feelings are about Trump, in all honesty, if he could bring an end to it, God bless. Bring it into it. However, however, you can get there. But here’s the line. I think we could all agree that the Nazis were probably the worst regime that and Stalin were the worst regime in European history. Over the last 150 years, after Hitler was killed, he committed suicide in 1945 there was not a person in the world that says Germany does not have the right to exist. Every Nazis, no Hitler Germany, yeah, we actually reconstituted Germany. First it was divided, then we brought it back together. So where the line is drawn is not, oh, I’m against Israeli government policy, which I personally am against. The line is drawn when you say, Oh, the Jewish people don’t have the right to a homeland in their ancestral home, that we, the Jews, would be the only people in the world that actually don’t have the right to have a sovereign state. Now we could argue with exactly what that borders of that sovereign state are. For me, I’m a two state solution, two people, two states, you know, two people live in that the Palestinians and the Israelis live in that area. Two people, two states. I’ve been for that since 1968 when the year after Israel occupied
Nestor Aparicio 16:35
West Bank and Gaza, all of my lifetime I was born in 68 so, yes, yeah, there
8Dr. Elliot King 16:40
you have it. And so. So the point being, now you’ve raised a really important issue, because in my mind, the Israeli government now has cheapened the term anti semitism by throwing it around too loosely to people who just oppose their policy, which I think is eminently opposable.
Nestor Aparicio 17:02
We are blessed to have Ellie King on the show. He is promoting the Cardin lecture and speaker Darryl horn. The event happens at Loyola University on the 21st of the month. You get all the information out of Baltimore positive or go to loyola.edu it’s up on the events at 7pm It’s right there in McGuire Hall. And you can read up on the author Darryl horn as well. So for what you teach and why, the from the communications department, you tackled anti semitism and picked this book and picked this author, I don’t know that it could be any more timely for your campus, right? I mean, this, these are important conversations that have to be had. And we’re hoping, I mean, you’ve already expressed in the last five minutes some hope that this can be solved. I’m 57 Yeah, I’ll be 57 two weeks now, been going on all my lifetime, like waiting on the world Orioles World Series. I’ve been waiting maybe it’ll happen. I can’t say that. I’m bullish to believe it’ll happen, but I’m hopeful and but I’ve seen the cast of characters all of my lifetime that have kept this war going. And I don’t it needs to be talked about, but I know campus safety and quiet and how loud we are about this kind of conversation. You’re trying to be loud about it because you believe it’s important.
Dr. Elliot King 18:16
You do want to be loud about it, but you also want to be thoughtful about it. And the main thing that I think that we have to get to is to be able to listen to each other and and understand each other. But also, in particular with Dara horn, and what her point is, and it’s a really important point, is you can’t turn your eyes away from hatred wherever it manifests itself, so the anti semitism that has been directed towards Jewish people Over the last several years has been glossed over. Like for example, you hear a lot of people say, Oh, the Israelis are attacking brown people, ie, the Palestinians, because they’re brown. It turns out that the Israelis, the majority of Israelis, are from the exact same stock. They’re also Brown. The Israelis that so, so that is saying that the is Israelis are behaving and motivated in a different way than others, is something that has to be addressed. Is something that has to be talked about. It’s not a racial thing that’s going on there. It’s a it’s an ethnic conflict between between two, two peoples. But here in the United States, one of her wonderful, wonderful examples is in high school, they teach The Merchant of Venice from Shakespeare. There’s no way around that. The Merchant of Venice has a highly, highly anti semitic character in it, very anti semitic. It Shylock so anti semitic that it’s a, you know, in common use, Shylock is a pejorative term people denigrate other people by using the word Shylock of all of Shakespeare. Why do they have to pick out Merchant of Venice to teach? You know, they got Romeo and Juliet. They got Hamlet. You know, all the Richard ones. They got plenty. And then people will give all sorts of excuses. They’ll say, oh, it’s Shakespeare. It’s the bard. It’s not really anti semitic. He’s reflecting the period of his time. And you go, Okay, well, yeah, but that’s set in Italy. He’s he’s in England. You know that he didn’t have to go and do that. I’m not saying that he’s anti semitic. I’m saying, if you’re teaching Shakespeare, why does it have to be, why does it have to be The Merchant of Venice? What goes on? And to have that conversation and to confront that conversation, and that’s a conversation that doesn’t really go on. It’s dismissed. And actually, she wrote the book because she’s pretty prominent person, like I said, she’s a well respected novelist and an academic. She has a PhD. She’s, like, really pretty impressive, very impressive person. They’d always call her up. The newspapers, the media, would call her up after there’d be another shooting at a synagogue and ask her to explain why there was the shooting. And she got tired of it. There’s the shooting because there’s anti semitism in the world, and because they attack Jewish places for being Jewish. In my synagogue, by the way, we have armed guards every
Nestor Aparicio 21:45
8time I’ve walked into several synagogues this year as an invited guest for events, for different things, and it is like the President’s there when I walk in, I’m getting metal. Wandered in. We didn’t do that at Our Lady of Fatima Dundalk, when I was you know, we just, yeah, when you think about doesn’t happen at the Cathedral when I’m downtown,
Dr. Elliot King 22:04
no. How did, and how did that get normalized? How did that get like, oh, yeah, you go to the synagogue, going to the airport, right? Going in, it was exactly, yeah. How did that get normalized? And that’s and that’s her, and that’s her. Her point that she’s trying to make is that,
Nestor Aparicio 22:19
is that there’s a living in fear part of being Jewish that is implied that,
Dr. Elliot King 22:24
and it’s been normalized, that this is, oh, this is just what, this is just what you have to do if you’re going to be a Jewish person. This is what you’re going to have to this what you’re going to have to do. To circle back to the campus, to me, so I have a degree. I went to Columbia. I have a degree from Columbia. And the idea that Jewish students on Columbia University in the heart of New York felt intimidated and fearful for being on campus. Was just shocking. Was just shocking. Like, how did that happen?
8Nestor Aparicio 22:54
I’m reading Getty Lee’s book, a rush based player, one of my idols, and obviously his parents escaped concentration camps, came to Canada. But his story is amazing because as a long haired hippie rock star, he talked about being Jewish in Texas in 1975 and Gene Simmons said to him, don’t say you’re Jewish in here. You can’t you can’t do that. You’re not in Canada anymore. You’re not safe, literally. And that’s something when I’m worshiping Getty Lee in 1981 and buying movie, I didn’t think of how different life would be. Elliot King is here. He is a good professor over of of all things communications, which Am I qualified to come back to school? You think they’d let me in over loyal?
Dr. Elliot King 23:34
Could I? Oh, man, you could come back and teach?
Nestor Aparicio 23:37
No, no, no, no. I’m still a student. I’m a I’m a forever student. Tell me before I let you go. And by the way, it’s October 21 if you want to be a part of the lecture, would highly recommend you stop by Loyola get educated. For all of us, how has the campus changed in all the years you’ve been there? And how are young people different? And how has it changed? Maybe you and your techniques and teaching people, what would I find to be a little different than my UB campus 35 years ago.
Dr. Elliot King 24:03
8So for me as a teacher, the main shift over the last 30 years is college used to be a kind of weeding out process. People would come and you’d have all these hoops that they have to jump through. And if and if kids couldn’t make it, it was like, okay, they couldn’t make it, that’s good. They they shouldn’t. They shouldn’t have gone on, and they should find something else to do. Now, college is really a supportive place for students. You come here, and our whole goal, at least at loyola’s whole goal, is to help you prepare for the next stage of your life. And we’re going to do what we need to do to help prepare that said students, especially the post covid crowd, needs more support covid. The impact on covid, on the psychology of this generation, really
Nestor Aparicio 24:55
is real. We knew that five years ago. I didn’t know what was going to happen, but we knew it was going to be something i.
Dr. Elliot King 25:00
It’s real, and so students need a lot of support, and you have to work a lot of support. In terms of loyola’s campus itself, it’s been pretty consistent. It’s a very small, intimate campus that people see each other all the time, and it’s a pretty tight knit community there. We built a couple new buildings, but not that much.
Nestor Aparicio 25:23
I got invited about a man. It must have been about 15 years ago, 1215, years ago, I came onto campus, and I’ve only been into REITs arena and into a couple offices, and I actually gave a lecture in the communications department for journalism, because I’ve been a journalist all of my life. So I spoke to a bunch of young people. 15 years ago, I got invited by one of the profs who was a, it was a part time. It wasn’t a, Hey, you want to come speak to my class? Sure. And I showed up, and I parked my car, and I walked through a couple of buildings to get there, and I’m like, it’s really nice. Like, I had no idea how nice Loyola was going to be. And I feel that way when I walk around Coppin. I feel that way when I walk around Towson and I went to Dundalk Community College UB, I was very like, I worked at the newspaper. I just went to college to get through it. I wasn’t there to meet girls, drink beer, have fun, play. I just wanted to get the piece of paper and roll out. But I find that when I go back to these campuses now, I think they’re very incredibly welcoming places. They’re places that are when I spend time there, I’m like, Oh, I get why the young boys and girls like it here, like it’s nice, it’s comfortable, and it’s a place you want to be, not a place you want to get off of. You know, I It’s a place that feels homey. And I think all the colleges have worked really hard on that part of it.
8Dr. Elliot King 26:33
They have, and people have realized as well that the the residential college experience is what we’re we’re offering. By the way, I also went to commuter college. I was a commuter to college when I went to college back in the day, but and then I wound up with a PhD. But that’s another story, but it’s a whole college experience. Your education, the educational part, of course, is the most important part. What you’re going to learn, how learn, how to learn, prepare your skills to go to the next step. But residential colleges work is really hard, especially Loyola, to give people a really well rounded, in depth, diversified experience, to get them ready to go and move on to the next step after they go out those years between 18 and 22 when most undergraduates are there, which is the heart and soul of loyal is still undergraduate education, these are really important developmental years, and the role of the college experience is to be able to address that on many, many different dimensions, not just the academic slash intellectual dimension, but the social dimension, spiritual dimension, all the different dimensions.
Nestor Aparicio 27:52
Have I gotten this wrong? Are you? Dr Elliot King, is that a fan? Okay, so Dr King is here. I’ve just been calling him a plain old professor man standard. He’s got the PhD. He is the communications professor over Loyola University here in Baltimore, never to be confused with the Chicago one, where they play basketball too. Jerome s Cardin memorial lecture with author Darryl horn will be held on Tuesday, October 21 at 7pm It’s a good night. There’ll be some baseball games going on. You can skip them, get over there and and be a part of this thing. It’s at McGuire Hall. We’ll get all the information up@loyola.edu Dr King, my pleasure having you on. Please come back and continue to educate me. And if I can’t make it to campus, I’ll import you once a year, twice a year, you come on here and communicate with
Dr. Elliot King 28:35
me anytime. I would appreciate it. Love, love talking to you great.
Nestor Aparicio 28:37
Dr Elliot King, joining us here from Loyola University, here locally. I also want to give a shout out to my friends at Coppin State. I’m going to have Dr Jenkins out for a crab cake down at COP and say hey, and I tell you, you know, we’re back on the campus now with Maryland’s playing football, so kids are back at school. So I’m trying to get educated as well and keep it square here. Anti semitism is, is the topic, and don’t hate love. Love’s love’s more important than hate. Love. Love’s more powerful than hate. We always try to say that around here, my thanks to Dr King, as well as Karen Segal for setting this up. Get on out on the 21st and support the folks down at Loyola University. I am Nestor. We are W, N, S, T. Am 15 said we’ll get back to the important thing, like how the ravens are doing after this. We’re Baltimore positive. Stay with us.
