How is life different (and maybe better) in Salisbury and rural Maryland?

Our defending champion and former Delegate Carl Anderton drops by in his new role as Director of Rural Economic Strategy along with Wicomico County Executive Julie Giordano to discuss life on the Eastern Shore from MACo in Ocean City. (And a little Ravens football, too!)

SUMMARY KEYWORDS

salisbury, people, run, county, years, stop, crab cake, baltimore, county executive, zoo, oyster, drafting, eastern shore, republicans, good, offensive line, ravens, moore, conversation, rural parts

SPEAKERS

Julie Giordano, Nestor Aparicio, Carl Anderton

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Nestor Aparicio  00:00

Welcome home. We are W, N, S T, Towson, Baltimore, Baltimore, positive. If you can’t tell I’m losing my voice here at the beaches, all that salt water in the air. I think here, our friends at the Maryland lottery have sent us down here. I only sound hungover. Actually feel pretty good, better than I did yesterday. Gold Rush sevens doublers are here. We are at Mako at the Ocean City Convention Center. And this thing has to end soon, because I need to go home across the bridge, because I’ve been over here these eastern shore people. Too long, way too long. Our friends at Liberty, pure solutions. Have water that will cure me. I literally have royal farms coffee in my this is a Maryland lottery mug. So I have that going on. Our friends at Jiffy Lube have sent Luke, who they do allow into Orioles games and to ravens games practice to do that this week. Well, I’m down here with elected and special appointees as well today, our defending champion, Carl Anderton, better known throughout the Eastern Shore, lower Delmarva as conbred, joins us here along with y comico, and that’s not the war. That’s the wick in E y comico, she’s county executive for Wicomico County. I went to bed early last night. It doesn’t sound like I did. It’s so loud at these parties down here. And I talked to so many of you. I’ve been dancing with you, talking to people, secrets, this fakers, that Republicans, Democrats, Harford County, Howard County, Prince George’s County, because I can’t call it PG, so I’m out of gas. I mean, tell me, how do you guys do

Carl Anderton  01:40

this, honestly, it’s gorgeous Prince George’s County. And also that’s a beautiful mug, by the way, if you leave that sitting on this table for more than 45 seconds, I’m gonna take it home. I already gave you lottery ticket.

Nestor Aparicio  01:55

How are you guys? We are good. He got in the middle of me and him, and I know this is a ready establish a bromance relation. I don’t know. He’s a Republican, you know? So, you know, I mean, some you know, like we all got to get along here.

Carl Anderton  02:10

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It’s a beautiful courtship. It is. Tell

Nestor Aparicio  02:13

people in Baltimore about whycomico County? Sure. So

02:16

what comical County? You know you were talking about being those nonsense,

Nestor Aparicio  02:19

wrong? I call y como comico. Well,

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Carl Anderton  02:23

you gotta give it a Baltimore County twang on it. Of what comics, why comic you can

02:29

do either one. But actually, this is home for us, so it’s actually kind of nice. We’re back and forth. I have to go do the ribbon cutting for our county fair this weekend, so it’s kind of nice to be able to go back and forth. You know, usually when Makos on the other side of the well, actually, no, usually the winter one is here as

Nestor Aparicio  02:44

well. So yeah, begins at that community college, like, where the chickens are pretty much, it’s

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a little bit before that. So yeah, so we’re down a little bit further. So Stadium in your side? Yes, okay, so stadiums, yeah. So we have a stadium. We have Salisbury University, yeah, Warwick, yes, in there. So we

Carl Anderton  03:02

have a zoo. We have the second largest airport in the state, the only other one with commercial airlines. I think there’s a second airline coming soon. There

Julie Giordano  03:10

is a second airline coming so we are super excited because we’ll have a direct flight to Florida from here. So that’s really nice. So we’re going to steal some of that. Bw, where you send them Orlando, where we were taking them? Probably. MCO, yeah. We’re thinking Orlando. I thought it was going to be like, more of the West Palm Beach. West Palm Beach area.

Nestor Aparicio  03:23

I see. Yeah, bingo. Exactly right. All right. So, for being a Baltimore guy, I’ve talked cornbread before, and I’m probably going to try to broadcast down at Salisbury next month, because I’m doing this crazy oyster to my 26th anniversary. Ignore the 25th cupcake on the screen. We’re going to 26 soon. I guess. Got my artists. I got things happening here, but it’s our 26 years. I’m doing these oysters, and I come over these, for sure, I’ve really started to love it, like, you know what I mean, like some ugly pie. I began my day today, you know, with some ugly pie, we stopped. I had a little oatmeal butterscotch cookie too, from there. So I’m learning places over here. But I’m learning so much about the water, so much about agriculture and then the growth part. When I’ve been coming here my whole life, but I drive through, as I’ve told him, he stops in Salzburg, you keep going because the girls were at the beach, the beach was at the beach, everything was at the beach. The bars, Batman was at the beach. So we were always in a hurry. Now I get a little older, I stopped, I mean, exploring black water. Getting off the road a little bit. I’ve gone up suicide bridge and have me crab cake. There’s a carnival, like a weekend carnival that has an oyster apparently, is delicious.

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Carl Anderton  04:33

Hebron. Hebron, right now the shark

Nestor Aparicio  04:34

town. Sharktown. That’s the one I’ve been wanting to do. What to

Carl Anderton  04:38

get you an oyster fritter sandwich, bro.

04:40

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The line is long, get their dating. See

Nestor Aparicio  04:43

people don’t know about I’ve learned about this. And two years ago, I came this close on a Friday night of like abandoning here to go to that Sharpstown. It

Carl Anderton  04:52

would have been worth it. I

Nestor Aparicio  04:53

seen pictures. It’s like a complete commute. So I get a postcard.

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Carl Anderton  04:58

It is been worth it. I gotta who. Pushers, a little relish on there. You’re good to go, man.

Nestor Aparicio  05:02

So what’s important to the people? Like, what comical? What

05:04

comic? Oh, why comic? Oh, yeah, well, it’s actually kind of what you said. So, you know, with Carl’s new job, now, you know, it’s not our delegate anymore.

Nestor Aparicio  05:12

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I’m about to learn about that. Be nice to you person, then we’ll get to

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him, yeah, but our job is to get people to stop, right? So, like, we want to, you know, showcase what we have going on. And so we’re not just that drive through town. We are a place to stop before you get to the beach. So I think that’s kind of where this new job may come in, where we’re really pushing economic development. And, you know, really want to see good growth, you know, where it should be. So can

Nestor Aparicio  05:35

I be nice to Salisbury for a minute? So they’ll welcome you back to Mogan. So Oyster House next month. Absolutely. My wife and I were dead set on going to ugly pie, right? And we learned about ugly pie because of grace Foxwell Murdoch, and she gave me that relationship few years ago with Jake, who I also text on the way down, is supposed to stop by, and he’s, y’all are here. He’s big shot now, Secretary, hey. Secretary, yeah, but, but I hit him, and my wife and I were Google mapping, and we, like, the bypass road never existed when I was a kid, right? So you had to come through Salisbury, even though we didn’t really stop much. But there was always that Arby’s. It always had special milkshakes on that corner. That’s right. And I said to my wife, I think we’re making a right at the Arby’s. And it was a block too soon to get the ugly pie. So we like Wrong Turn on that she made the wrong turn at the Arby’s in downtown Salisbury. We went down the bottom, and here was a little park. We got down to this park, and my wife, like, sort of stopped the car, and they were like ducks. And then on the left there was an elementary school that looked like, it’s out of, like a 1950 it looks like a

Carl Anderton  06:41

movie, says the original High School, why? Comico, middle school, high school,

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06:47

tell him who spoke there. You

Carl Anderton  06:48

tell him. No, you tell Ken, exec, you tell him who spoke there. The famous guy, pretty famous. FDR, I think was. JFK, no, I thought no, yeah, you know what, you’re right, yeah, super

Nestor Aparicio  07:00

Democrats, go ahead. Oh man, I’m on you guys today. So I made the turn, and my wife’s like, this is beautiful. And I said, Well, you know, when Jake, they came on, he and Grace were like, the zoo, the zoo. My wife loves animals, right? The zoo, the zoo. I didn’t know Salisbury had a zoo until I met with the mayor, right? So y’all gotta you know, I’m trying to help you back home, for people to stop, but we made a wrong turn to get the most delicious pie in the state. No offense, Rodney, but this, they make some great pies down there. Really do. And we, you know, we dropped 20 bucks right there in Salisbury back on 50. Boom, right the next thing you know, we’re at the Warwick community college and then Ocean City, Maryland, one of my favorite places. So I’ve been coming down here my whole life, but me too, brother, stopping and making us stop. What makes one stop in your county?

Carl Anderton  07:48

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That’s what makes them stop, right there, the zoo, the zoo, the park. You know, it’s an opportunity when you’ve been traveling all day to kind of chill out for a little bit before you get over here to where it’s hectic again, you know? I mean, where the the where the hub of Delmarva is the literal crossroads, the literal geographical center of the peninsula. We’re 30 miles from the ocean, 30 miles from the bay, 100 miles from the tip of the

Nestor Aparicio  08:13

peninsula, this much fresher than it is Amen brother Bay Bridge, right? I think

08:17

it’s good too, because if people are in an Ocean City, I mean, there’s a lot of things going on in Ocean City. If you want to take that break, you know, if you want to go to a shorebirds game, or if you want to come to the zoo, or if you want to do that, you can, you know, you know, bring your whole family back. You know, he’s

Nestor Aparicio  08:29

trying to get me shorebird. Yes, ma’am. One thing we all share here that I have with him is he is a raven and Oriole maniac, yeah, who lives really far from the stadiums, as I see it. I mean, every time there’s a concert or Hershey or Philly or Jiffy Lube, and I love Jiffy Lube, but I don’t love going to Manassas. It’s like, it’s a long way you I see you on a flatbed truck with some of your boys on game day, I have literally walked through Camden Yards and the football stadium and just Yeah, and I’m like, Dude, you live way over there. You’re driving home. Did you get a room, right? You’re like, we

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Carl Anderton  09:06

call that around the corner, you know? I mean, we’re two hours from everywhere. It’s a geographical oddity here, so we just get used to traveling, yeah, but it’s, uh, I love being up there, man,

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I don’t think you would have endorsed me if I wasn’t a Ravens fan. I

09:21

think you’re right, you Raven, Oh

09:23

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yeah, absolutely.

Carl Anderton  09:24

She tailgates with us. Okay,

Nestor Aparicio  09:26

so let’s talk some football. Then.

09:29

Derek Henry, we’re ready.

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Nestor Aparicio  09:30

So I would say this is my 33rd year doing sports radio Baltimore, right? And we didn’t even have the football team. I was a lobbyist to get the football team that threw me out, that took 600 million of dollars that people like these gave to a billionaire to then move the media up into the corner and use it as excuse to throw me out. But that’s another story altogether. The season starting with this expectation for both of these teams, baseball team, the pitching, you know, whatever, but they’re going to play games in October. The ray. Could be playing in the middle of that. And there’s, there’s a level of expectation in our audience that I’ve never seen before, where they’re ready to crush the manager again on the baseball team and the football team. It’s, well, we went to playoff games. It’s not enough. I mean, there enough. The bar is really, really hard.

Carl Anderton  10:16

That’s good, though it should be that. I mean, we don’t want to be like Cincinnati or Podunk, cities where they’re like, Oh yeah, man, hey, man, the highlight of our year is making the playoffs. No, that’s expected. That’s expected.

Nestor Aparicio  10:28

Why the Ravens gonna win the Super Bowl? Cornbread? Well,

Carl Anderton  10:30

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I mean, if we can stay healthy, we have the best roster in the league, top to bottom. If we can stay healthy, that’s always our issue, man, is health. You know, ever since about 2014 it’s just been like, there’s always one section of this team that’s always just banged up. It’s either the offensive line, defensive line, normally it’s a secondary. We never can have enough corners or safeties. Never you sound like Luke Jones, but it’s the truth. Am I lying? Plus

10:54

we can’t leave the run game. Can’t leave what wins this game we’re

Carl Anderton  10:57

supposed to do when we’re supposed to do it, hardball, ran the ball

Nestor Aparicio  11:02

three times in an AFC Championship. Terrible.

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11:04

I sat there with nobody’s even throwing. We were there. Yeah, we were in the governor’s box. We were there. We were

Carl Anderton  11:09

yelling, like, run

Nestor Aparicio  11:10

the ball. Well, Jerry Coleman was in my seat in the press box. So Wes, Moore is

11:14

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next to us. We have Adam Jones next to us, and we’re watching it. And Wes had to do, you know, he’s got to do the governor thing. And I told him, I said, if you get up one more time and these ravens do something bad, you got to sit in the seat, stop moving. I’m very superstitious. Don’t do I know. I know the

Nestor Aparicio  11:32

chair cheer about that. I mean all the money people spent, all the well then, and that leads to that disappointment, leads to we got Derrick Henry, which is the first in the county executive said, Right, yep, I have been for three years. Every time at the trading deadline offseason, I say to Luke, they need Derek Henry, and then Luke and I go into that’s a lot of money for a running back. They don’t traditionally spend money on running backs. They, you know, they’re going like everybody else, cheap, cheap, cheap. One of my really good buddies who’s as big an Oriole fan as you Chad wiesling, who is a sports agent. He’s the agent for the running back from the Raiders. It’s now with the Packers. Josh Jacobs. Oh, Josh Jacobs, so he was at the forefront of trying to figure out how running backs aren’t getting paid. And much like you guys as politicians, standing up and saying, Come on, man, they’re running the ball. They’re not $2 million players. You know, they’re ten million players. So trying to find that money. And the Ravens were all in on that. Now, all of a sudden, bad knees on Dobbins. Young guy gets hurt. We need a running back to me, the Derrick Henry thing. If they win the Super Bowl, that’s the lead story for me. That’s, that’s the lead of they got the running game. Now the lead store is going to be the offensive line, right? I mean, Joe del Sanders now gone with this sickness. I haven’t been home in two days to like, even Luke’s been writing about it at Baltimore positive. But the offensive line on, you know, August 15 is still a scramble, a bit of a scram. You haven’t seen it. I’m an old school football guy, man, like I’ve seen a lot of football. That’s worrisome for me.

Carl Anderton  13:03

Well, that’s the cornerstone of your whole team, is your offensive line. If you can block whole you can do anything. If you can’t block, you ain’t doing it. You know what?

Nestor Aparicio  13:10

Every offensive lineman I’ve ever met my life says that true,

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Carl Anderton  13:15

true story, though, true story, Brian baltinger agrees with you. Well, you know what? That’s the one thing we probably agree on, but he, you know, but, but they’re right. I mean, you know, that’s your that’s your cornerstone, that’s your foundation. Blocking. You know, your pass game, your run game. Everything revolves off, having time, time to get through, time to get around, time to let things open up. So you have to block. I see what the cost is doing by drafting these young guys and getting himself into a nice five year window on that sport. That’s sporting best way too. And that’s the way it goes. Now, you got five year, we got to work cheap, right? And so, you know, once you’re paying a quarterback 50 million a year, something’s got to give, you know. And so if he’s got lightning in the bottle with this, and I think he does, I mean, there’s some real talent on this online. And if that comes together, and we’re able to make the, you know, hold this line, open up these gaps, you know, and allow for things to develop downfield. I mean, there’s no reason why.

Nestor Aparicio  14:08

Under arms Pro Bowl, right? No doubt about that. They drafted that, and there was speculation when they, you know, dealt Hollywood brown away. I want, you know, I want to see Lamar throw the ball and not have to run because Derek Henry’s run,

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yeah, absolutely. I

Carl Anderton  14:21

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want him to run because he wants to. That’s when it’s fun. I want

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him to throw more because, look, quarterbacks stay healthy when they don’t run, I can stay in the pocket. She’s speaking

Nestor Aparicio  14:29

my language. Now I don’t want my

Carl Anderton  14:32

thing is this, let that man cook, let him do what he does.

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I mean, I want him to do that too. I want him to do that too, but we also want him to stay healthy

Carl Anderton  14:41

too. You

Nestor Aparicio  14:41

know how he got the name cornbread?

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I do know how he got the name cornbread. Do

Nestor Aparicio  14:45

you want to tell a story? I

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well, there, there’s my version of the story and what I know, and then maybe the feeling there’s lore involved. There is lore. There is lore. So Carl, I do have to say, and my director of administration, Bunky loffman, was. Kind of his sidekick here. They do a fantastic job. It doesn’t matter if you are testifying on a bill. It doesn’t matter where you are. They quote movies all the time. And they, they will have these, like, movie quotes, and they will do, you know, their thing. And I’ve done it four times in this interview. Yes, that’s what I’m saying, like, and it’s amazing. So, you know, I think you were in the General Assembly, like, ready to go and you say they call me cornbread. I mean,

Carl Anderton  15:22

I used to you. I used to work on the radio, right, right? So that’s the name I used on the air. You were

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Nestor Aparicio  15:27

the huckster at the baseball games, right? I

Carl Anderton  15:29

was it, yes, yeah. Now I remember Yeah, yeah. And that’s how they found me. You

Nestor Aparicio  15:34

were the wild child in between, eatings, yep, selling fried chicken for Mr. Perry Amen, brother

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Amen, I guess I should say that it prefaced there, and then,

Carl Anderton  15:45

yeah, to raise a tender chick, there

Nestor Aparicio  15:46

you go. There’s no better ad for

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Yeah, we love fruit. I lay that down. You did that was great. All

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Nestor Aparicio  15:55

right, so he’ll be the Orioles going to win the World Series because you’re wearing orange today. Not

Carl Anderton  15:59

even so well, Purple’s in my heart, brother, you know? I mean, if pitching comes down to pitching again, these two teams are hilarious, because they both have Achilles heels. The Ravens drafting receivers, the Orioles drafting pitching. It’s keeping pitching healthy. This is, well, one in the same, you know. So if the pigeon could come around, if, by some miracle, they can get healthy and come back to their form, yeah, we can absolutely win the whole thing without any hesitation. I think we can repeat 1970 where you have a World Series championship in a suit.

Nestor Aparicio  16:33

Just don’t want to repeat 69 when they lose. Well, no, no, my dad didn’t bring that up. Yeah, I don’t want that I was born or 71 I was on the planet for all of this. Thankfully, I don’t have any memories, right? I got 79 that’s enough. I got last year’s A F C championship game, you know, I’ve got the condemn, you know, like 2011

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and last year, it’s going to haunt us forever. Well, the

Nestor Aparicio  16:54

most important thing is, you know, we’ve given them the money to solidify these franchises, and now for Eastern Shore people to come to my city, yeah, to leave behind money, take with them memories, right? I mean, same things you guys want when people come to the pension for Baltimore, what’s the perception often you come to Baltimore? Well,

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so I’m actually from Baltimore, yeah, so I’m from Catonsville, so we come quite often. My family is right on the outskirts. We come up for ravens games. We’re coming up. You know, I was just up there last weekend school, so I was at Roanoke College. I transferred to Salisbury University, as you you know, met a guy, thought I was going to get married to him, didn’t marry him, but ended up kind of falling in love with the shore. And it’s great. It’s two hours away, you know, my parents are right there, if I need to get there to them, but it’s a great place to live. It was a great place to raise a family. And I

Nestor Aparicio  17:39

hear that a lot, I mean, and as the county executive down here, like when I come down at the beginning of this conversation was, there’s just more of everything. There’s more fast food, there’s more people, there’s more houses, there’s more want to be here. The sprawl that used to be when I was a little boy in the 70s, some high rises, you know, up in the 90s, and has now sprawled out up Delaware, Rehoboth. I mean, you feel you, you, when you get to Salisbury, you start to feel like there’s people over here, all it used to be

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18:07

chickens, yeah. And, well, I think that’s right. And I think that we’re in such an exciting era at this point in time, because we’re just starting to see that growth. You have the big Ross building downtown. We’re gonna have a performing arts center downtown, so we get to be in the foundation part of that. And so I think that’s what’s really exciting. Sauce bears, go grow right? Big, yeah, yeah. And it should. You need to have people in office that are willing, you know, it’s very interesting. You know, as Republicans, typically across the state, there are, even across the country, they’re all about development, except where I live, you know, they’re like, We don’t want any development. We don’t anything going on. And for me, you have to grow. So I’m actually one of those people to say, Yes, I believe in development. I think we should be developing in the appropriate areas. We need people, or else our, you know, the city dies, so you have to grow and you have to keep going. So

Carl Anderton  18:47

no, she’s right. And you know, it’s like you said, 20 years from now, it’s going to be completely different, yeah, but so we have to make sure we do it right. We have you can only cut the cake one time, so you have to cut it right with all the development. So

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here’s the one good thing, with us being a little behind, we get to look at everybody and how they did it and say, Well, we’re, we’ll take that. We’ll not going to do it that way. We’ll

Nestor Aparicio  19:09

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see it differently, because you’re a city person, um, I

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think I see it differently. So

Nestor Aparicio  19:14

I’ve been down raised amongst Democrats, if you’re, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I mean, so like, over 20 years, I

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Nestor Aparicio  19:19

had a conversation last night with a friend. I’m not going to out him, because I’m going to bring him on the show. He’s been on the show many times, long time. Sponsor ran for public office. Love him to death, but he’s a Republican. I did not vote for him. He knows that he’s been on the show. You know, we had a conversation last night at a Republican Party that I saw you at, all Republicans Harford County, and he said we got a wing ding in the corner. He’s only when I really talked to you last night at that party, who’s kind of quiet and and I’m not going to out him, but he’s going to come on because he’s going to speak for himself. But we said we have to talk it about Trump. And I thought I was going to hear one thing from him, and I heard another thing from him, like he’s a. Kinsinger, Republican. He, you know, he is an outspoken to my ears, I can’t believe the people in my party had bought into this eight years later, that we could have done better than this. We should do better than this. And then there’s larry hogan over there, who’s trying to do something way different than Trump without denouncing Trump. Because when you’re in your position over here, I see the signs you denounce Trump. Here you’re out. That’s a really precarious thing, and a thing that in I’m a Baltimore County alum. Lived there, but I voted in the city for 20 years. City voted 97.2% against Trump. That’s where I live, and over here, I feel it differently. What happens after November, if Trump doesn’t win, does it? Does Republic? Does someone like you then step in and more people that I could at least sit and have a conversation with, not like andy Harris, who I’ve never met in my life, who I can’t, I can’t even touch him, you know, if he sits next to me, it probably wouldn’t go well. I just good con. When you can’t have a conversation with people, it’s over. I think there’s something about you being from Catonsville that allows you to be more moderate here on issues that involve money right away. And I don’t know all of your politics, but the first thing you said is, I’m Republican fighting against Republicans about land here because they want to conservative by nature, right? Conservative by nature. So

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this is my thought on that there are only a couple of topics I think that make it so far left or so far right. Most people, I feel, fall in the middle. And so it’s about common sense. So for me, I have to be the county executive for all people. So my personal politics have nothing to do with how I run the county. Conservatively, yes, but for the most part, I have to think about every single person in this county. There are people that want that growth, there are people who want specific things, and so I have better schools and stuff. That’s part exactly right? So, and I was a teacher. So I was a teacher for 17 years before I was elected as county executive. So I understand that firsthand. You

Nestor Aparicio  21:54

bought your own Kleenex and pencils. Yeah,

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I’ve been there. Yeah, absolutely so. And I think you’re kind of in the same role too. You know, being a Republican, but you’re working for Governor Moore. So there’s a vision that he has. And so if you’re going to say, I’m going to work for the governor, you have to support that, and you have to be, you know, kind of that team player. So I think it kind of falls in the same way. I know, look, there are policies that Governor Moore and I may not get, you know, we might not agree with, but there are ton that we do. He’s about economic development, he’s about opportunities, he’s about bringing jobs, and that’s what I’m about. So we work on the things that we can work on together, and we have him and I have such a great working relationship regardless. And so those personal politics we have to set aside, and we have to do a job. We have to do a job for 103,000

Nestor Aparicio  22:35

people. You got a new job? Right? Yes, he does. So tell me what your job was and on a day to day basis, what you did because, I mean, I looked you came up to me at the Preakness couple five years ago and introduced yourself, said you were a fan of my show. I said, Thank you. So where do you live? Salisbury. I’m like you do know you can’t get am 1570 there. They said they’d never listen over on the shore. But the internet, you know, has made me accessible to you. I guess when Don Muller and I started talking politics, I don’t know when I came into your world. I know when you came into mine, but your gigs changed, but I looked at many people actually vote for you. There’s not a lot of people live over here, you know? I mean, I wish I could have won an election with a couple 1000 votes because I that ran, but in the city, it would have taken a whole lot more than that for me to be involved in

Carl Anderton  23:16

policy. So actually, I started listening to you when you were filling in on one of the National

Nestor Aparicio  23:22

Network on Salisbury. I was on Salisbury radio,

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Carl Anderton  23:24

yeah, yeah, you know, you would do fill in spots. And then I was across the bridge listening to 1570 and you were talking about a show in Kearney, and this was probably, that’s the barn, then the barn at Kearney, yes, 1997 98 was probably somewhere late 90s. And I went to that. How old, you know, went to that? Well, you know,

Nestor Aparicio  23:45

you came to my barn show I did, yeah, who was the guest I did?

Carl Anderton  23:51

Ogden, maybe. Okay, all right,

Nestor Aparicio  23:53

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he came every year,

Carl Anderton  23:55

yeah. But no, it was cool. And I think it might have been a two, maybe

Nestor Aparicio  24:01

2000 that’s 25 years ago. Yeah, yeah. All right, so you don’t want me long before

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the realization that 2000 was like 25 years ago. It’s crazy, right? Yeah, right, absolutely. Planet itself is

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Nestor Aparicio  24:13

and that I have socks older than that, which is crazier. But so you were delegate, correct? All right, so what did that mean? And they voted on you a couple times, and you’re a sitting delegate, but you were always sort of, you know, I’ve run into a plenty of democratic event, you know, like you’re not that guy. I mean, you’re obviously talk to me, right? Getting appointed by democratic government. I mean, I find that to be about as bipartisan a story as I could bring on the air here, right? Yeah,

Carl Anderton  24:39

yeah. So, you know, it kind of started, you know, serving in the legislature. You know, it started. It was here before the election. I was talking with then candidate West Moore, and so, you know, he found out that represented part of the Eastern Shore, and he said, so, so why does everybody here kind of feel like they’re, they’re left behind, you know? And I said, I’m not really sure. I said, we just always, we’ve been raised to believe that, that we’re not as important as the other parts of the state. And he said, Well, that’s something that we need to work on. So I was like, Yeah, I agree. We need to work on that. So we’ve had, we had other conversations.

Nestor Aparicio  25:13

We don’t feel that way in Catonsville, right? No.

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I mean, I don’t know. I never everybody Kingsville

Nestor Aparicio  25:18

feels like Baltimore city gets too much and can’t do, you know, I look, I’ve been doing it. I’m a resident. I hear it all right,

Carl Anderton  25:24

so, so he, but he was, you know, he said he wanted to be genuinely focused on the rural parts of the state. And so, as we had other conversations, you know, he was like, what would you do? And I said, you know, you should probably have someone that’s geared towards, you know, representing you in the rural parts of the state. And he was like, then we had other conversations, and then he approached me. He said, hey, you know, I want someone to be focused on the rural parts of the state, you know, I want you to do it. And I said, Absolutely, as it’s a no brainer,

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I think he’s done such a good job at listening, you know what I mean, and he sees the potential. He sees where we are, and I think that he respects that too. I think he respects the way of life, but also recognizes, hey, you know what? This was something where I feel that there was, like, a, you know, a shortfall, and so why not find somebody who’s from there? I mean, I couldn’t have picked a better person, I think, to represent that. So

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Nestor Aparicio  26:16

I got to wrap up, but I’m just going to make one constituent. I’m now a constituent of yours, right? Yes, because you represent the whole state. Oh, my God, he represents me. There we go. All right, so this is my first official thing for rural that, and I’ve been in every county I’ve had a crab cake. Proudly, in every county in the state might have a crab, an oyster, every county before it’s all I don’t know why I want to go to, like, to Cumberland for oysters, but nonetheless, I might do that. There was

Carl Anderton  26:42

something there I’m gonna leave alone. But anyway, as you carry on, you know oysters

Nestor Aparicio  26:46

now, you come sit on the show next month and give me all your special appointee stuff that you’re doing, and we’ll see if you can work on this. Okay, get an answer. Let’s do it. Let’s

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do it everywhere. I

Nestor Aparicio  26:55

drove on the crab cake tour two years ago, 2122 I did 25 crab cakes in 20 days. Then I did 26 crab cakes in 26 days the following year. Few breweries too. Okay, off the beaten path, off of 50 this does not work. This is the primary communication tool, right, for the whole universe. And it doesn’t work, right? So I am literally at Warwick Community College with my wife, with no sir, and I’m on 52 days ago, I’m on 50 now. This isn’t suicide bridge up near lock. This isn’t down with the geese in Blackwater down in Hooper’s Island, where they have that delicious crab cake down in old salties.