His father Kevin served as Baltimore County Executive and was on the campaign trail attempting to become the Governor of Maryland in 2018 when he tragically died. So, it’s not a huge surprise that youthful Karson Kamenetz would be dipping his toes into the political realm with a run at the county council seat at stake in the 4th District on the northwest side of the beltway. We discuss what is important to constituents in our area right now like traffic, crime and affordability. And the power and expectations of his family name.
Nestor Aparicio interviews Carson Kamenetz, a 24-year-old candidate for Baltimore County Council District 4, about his campaign and background. Kamenetz discusses his father’s legacy, his own journey from computer science to law school, and his commitment to addressing local issues like reckless driving, public safety, and education. He emphasizes the need for modern government practices, better community representation, and honest leadership. Kamenetz also highlights the impact of redistricting on his district, which includes Pikesville, Milford Mill, and Green Spring Valley, and his plan to prioritize public safety and economic development.
- [ ] @Nestor Aparicio – Host the “Walk a Mile in Their Shoes” event at GBMC on Friday at 4 p.m., as announced on air.
- [ ] @Nestor Aparicio – Schedule and book David Marks as a guest on the show to discuss local traffic and speed issues.
- [ ] @Nestor Aparicio – Speak with Pat Young about the planned opening of Fishmonger’s Daughter in Catonsville and coordinate any related coverage or promotion.
Karson Kamenetz’s Campaign Introduction and Personal Background
- Nestor Aparicio introduces the show and mentions various events and locations, including the Maryland State Fair and the Maryland lottery.
- Nestor Aparicio and Karson Kamenetz discuss Karson’s age and background, including his involvement in computer science and cybersecurity competitions.
- Nestor Aparicio reminisces about Karson’s family history and his involvement in the community, including his father’s political career and his own experiences with Karson over the years.
- Karson Kamenetz shares his journey from computer science to law school and his decision to run for office, inspired by his father’s legacy and his own desire to improve his community.
Challenges of Being a Young Politician
- Nestor Aparicio and Karson Kamenetz discuss the challenges of being a young politician, including the perception of youth and the need for energy in politics.
- Karson Kamenetz emphasizes the importance of honesty and transparency in leadership, especially when making tough decisions.
- Nestor Aparicio and Karson Kamenetz talk about the impact of redistricting on Baltimore County and the diverse communities within Karson’s district.
- Karson Kamenetz highlights the importance of community representation and the need for elected officials who understand the needs of different socioeconomic and ethnic backgrounds.
Community Issues and Campaign Platform
- Nestor Aparicio and Karson Kamenetz discuss the top issues in Karson’s district, including reckless driving, speeding, and public safety.
- Karson Kamenetz outlines his campaign platform, focusing on safer communities, stronger schools, and a government that serves everyone.
- Nestor Aparicio and Karson Kamenetz talk about the importance of addressing community concerns, such as potholes, traffic, and public safety.
- Karson Kamenetz emphasizes the need for modernizing government services and improving communication with residents, especially older adults.
Education and Economic Development
- Nestor Aparicio and Karson Kamenetz discuss the importance of education and economic development in Baltimore County.
- Karson Kamenetz highlights the need for a strong education system that produces talented individuals to attract and retain businesses.
- Nestor Aparicio shares his experiences with diverse communities and the impact of immigration on local schools.
- Karson Kamenetz emphasizes the importance of redeveloping and restoring existing infrastructure to maintain the suburban feel that attracts residents.
Technology and Modernization in Government
- Nestor Aparicio and Karson Kamenetz discuss the role of technology in modernizing government services and improving communication with residents.
- Karson Kamenetz shares his experiences with AI in law school and its potential applications in government.
- Nestor Aparicio talks about the benefits of AI in his own life and the potential for AI to improve public services.
- Karson Kamenetz emphasizes the need for government to keep up with technological advancements to better serve the community.
Final Thoughts and Campaign Strategy
- Nestor Aparicio and Karson Kamenetz discuss the importance of community engagement and the need for elected officials to be accessible and responsive.
- Karson Kamenetz outlines his campaign strategy, including door-knocking, community events, and social media to reach voters.
- Nestor Aparicio encourages Karson to stay true to his values and to be an honest and transparent leader.
- Karson Kamenetz expresses his commitment to serving the community and making a positive impact in Baltimore County.
SUMMARY KEYWORDS
Baltimore County, Karson Kamenetz, campaign message, district 4, reckless driving, public safety, redistricting, community representation, budget priorities, education system, traffic issues, local issues, government modernization, community engagement, political career.
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SPEAKERS
Karson Kamenetz, Nestor Aparicio
Nestor Aparicio 00:00
Welcome home. We are W, N, S, T, am 1570 to Baltimore. We are Baltimore, positive, positively out here at Costas in Timonium. Yes, we’re at the racetrack. We’re not state fair, but we’ll be there in a couple weeks. That’s over Catonsville, but we’re at the place where they have the State Fair and I have the Maryland treasure scratch offs in the Maryland lottery. I’m holding all four of them up because they’re kind of cool. There’s a bay bridge. There’s a sort of Black Water theme with birds and crabs and oysters and stuff. This is my favorite, I think, because it’s the boardwalk in Ocean City, and we’ve had a couple 80 Degree Days. And as you can tell, Carson, I’m getting very Eastern up here, as well as the beaches of Assateague and the ponies, which met the racetrack. I did a big piece on the horse racing thing this week with Dick Girardi that I want everybody to check out about the future of the Preakness. And this guy’s dad ran Baltimore County. I’m gonna have some Baltimore County. Pat Dyer’s coming out. Nick Stewart was supposed to come out today. He’s gonna come out in a couple weeks. I think he’s gonna join me in Essex on May 1 to pizza. John’s. We’re gonna be at Koco’s Next Thursday the 23rd we’re going to be across the street from here at Planet Fitness and simonium on May 7, and then back downtown for the Preakness crab races at faidley’s on May 13. Carson Kamenetz is running for office. I’ve known him when he was a younger man. You 18? Yet?
Karson Kamenetz 01:16
How old are you? I am a little bit older than 18. I’m 24 right? 24 now I like to say I’ll be 25 when elected. I got to give myself that extra I’d still card your
Nestor Aparicio 01:24
8ass, and I wouldn’t let you in. You know what I mean? I’d say you shouldn’t see that ID. I’d shimmer it a little bit. 24 look at you. All grown up, yes sir.
Karson Kamenetz 01:33
And I gotta tell you, being young and doing this is not easy. You know, everyone loves to love
Nestor Aparicio 01:39
the young when you get to be old doing something, man, you got energy, dog,
Karson Kamenetz 01:43
I think the energy is what we’re about Absolutely. You know you gotta be energetic today in American
8Nestor Aparicio 01:49
politics, all right, so I think you came in my life at the Bobby Flay event when my wife was sick. I guess we’re going back 2015 now. So I get I felt like I’ve seen you 11 years, your mom, your family, going through the tragedy in 18 with your dad. I think you came on the show when you were the junior student achievement six, seven years ago. I think I booked you on with Don Moeller because he’s trying to prop up your political career. And I thought, well, that kid will run for office someday, but he’ll probably go into some other thing and make money in the private sector and forget this thing, because his old man died on a political trail trying to change the world. And lo and behold, nah, this is what you want to do, man, it’s what you’re built to do. I gotta tell you,
Karson Kamenetz 02:34
you know, I was a computer science guy my entire life. That was what I thought my future was.
Nestor Aparicio 02:39
What did you think you think you were gonna
Karson Kamenetz 02:41
8be when you grew up? I thought, you know, I competed in red team, Blue Team hackathon competitions for cyber security my entire life.
Nestor Aparicio 02:48
I did stem last night, the robot, right? Robots. How’d you do I know, I just MC it, man. I kicked Ray Lewis’s ass, and I retired 10 years
02:56
ago. Always retire ahead,
Nestor Aparicio 02:58
yeah, I beat Ray Lewis on video. And I’m like, I’m never gonna touch that thing again. And but I watched the executives compete. So, I mean, I was a smart kid, but I wasn’t like on the, you know, stem steam, you know, political science, robot Commission, or, like, science technology. No, I It’s a bug. I was a verbal kid, as you can imagine. I was more English, verbal. Well, I’ll tell
8Karson Kamenetz 03:21
you what. I took a math class in my senior year when I was getting ready to go to college for computer science. And I said, you know, this really isn’t for me, this whole math thing, this calculus thing, and calculus,
Nestor Aparicio 03:32
hell, I barely made Algebra Two. I can do
Karson Kamenetz 03:34
addition, subtraction, multiple. I’m great with
Nestor Aparicio 03:37
8all that. You start putting variables in there, and pi, I’m out.
Karson Kamenetz 03:41
Fortunately, you know, I decided, you know, law school doesn’t have math. That’s not a prerequisite there. And I thought, hey, there’s no better way to help reform and change. He was, yeah. So this is really the sickness I inherited, to be honest with you, all of it, whether it’s Law School politics, just the desire to improve the place that you call home, because that’s that’s, frankly, you know, my value. It’s my value as a Jew. It’s my value as a person in Baltimore County, and I think that’s what is asked of us. I remember sitting Shiva after my father passed, just hearing these small stories to me that meant nothing, but to the people telling them, rec programs saved a shift added for police officers or firefighters
Nestor Aparicio 04:22
like and you can only do that when you get involved in government to be able to do good things.
Karson Kamenetz 04:27
Yeah, yeah. And it’s like, who am I to not? Who am I to say? Okay, that was my father’s thing. He helped a lot of people. When I have the same tools at my disposable disposal, and a lot of the people are still alive exactly, help your dad Exactly. There’s a lot of goodwill around so I figured, why not try to just make the best of it and do the best that I can for Pikesville and locker
8Nestor Aparicio 04:45
and now you’re where you’re running. Give everybody the way Carson cabinets is here. We’re and I told you this before we went on the air, because I never really had a heart to heart with you. Last time you came by, I think you were in the middle of things. You’re sitting your brother was here, your mom and like, and I waved to them. And Hi Jill, but I don’t think I’ve ever, like, really sat and talked to you, other than the one or two times you’ve been on the show on the air. But I don’t think we’ve sort of broken bread. But I didn’t know your dad that well, right? Like, so like Don Moeller, obviously, was my high school guidance counselor, though, Don 4044, years now, congratulations on the regents, by the way. Congrats. I had to look up, what the hell that was some intellectual thing. He’s not even getting paid for it, which is, you know, come on, power. It’s power. Well, that’s fine. That’s not been my powers in this. But your dad, as I know it, and I didn’t know him well, was like this tremendous intellectual about community and law and the right and wrong way to do things. And I know he was alive during the beginning of the Trump thing, and he was out on the trail running against that as governor, and before that as county executive. And they’d be proud of Johnny, oh, serving down in DC. And had so many things that have happened. But if your old man was still here and Trump was running the country, you’re, I mean, you would wake up every single morning. He’d be waking up every morning, yeah, to make sure that ice isn’t here, pulling me out of here, asking me where my passport is, because I happen to look Venezuelan, you know, like I knew what your dad stood for, which always allowed me to bring him on as a politician and Don’s guy and like all that. But I never, like, sat with your dad at an event, or sat at a table, or, like, had these conversations. But I was in after he passed, it came to me through so many people. When they would see Don at my table, they would talk about Kevin, and they talked about Kevin in this incredibly intellectual way, which is probably why, when he saw me at games, he’s talked a little baseball with me, because he little baseball with me, because he probably didn’t want me to talk about trash pickup or schools or taxes, or, you know, the divide, the crime, policing, all of these things that over the last decade have become a lot more appealing for me to talk about, because I want to Change them, and in order to change them, we need people elected who stand for this. You want to change these things so you’re the next generation. So I’m delighted to hear what you got up your sleeve.
Karson Kamenetz 07:10
Yeah, you know, and love him or hate him, because, you know, growing up with him in office, you see a lot of both. But you know my father and what he instilled in me, and I think why so many other elected officials and community leaders have gotten behind my campaign is because leadership is really about telling it like it is. It’s being honest about trade offs so you can bring everything to the 100th degree, but if you don’t show the folks around you, hey, this is my thinking. This is how we got from X to Y to Z, they’re less likely to accept it, and sometimes tough decisions are made, I think, with the budget that we’re dealing with in Baltimore County, because, of course, the federal government is shoving more and more responsibility onto the state of Maryland, and in turn, they’re shoving more and more onto the counties that we are going to have to make some really tough decisions. And I think we need folks in this office. We’re going to have a brand new council and a brand new executive that is willing to be honest about what types of trade offs we’re going to make, because they thought
Nestor Aparicio 08:06
about that. This is going to be a huge transition in the county, no matter how this
Karson Kamenetz 08:10
8happens, seven new council members now.
Nestor Aparicio 08:13
How did redistricting affect the west side, in a way? Because, I mean, I’ve had Julian on and I Barry Williams on recently, talking about things going on in Pikesville, there at the armory, and just so many people connected to that side, Izzy, I mean, on that side of town, to know that, you know, there was a lot of controversy in that long before, you know, they made the decision to elect a county executive that I can’t even put on the show with me that this has been a really tough couple years in Johnny’s absence and your dad’s absence in this transition. And look, I grew up with Todd Crandall, you know so mean, I haven’t been tough on Todd, but Todd used to do the show Costas. He doesn’t anymore, and I know he’s about to exit as well. There’s just no matter what side of the county you’re on, and I live on the north side, but I’ve connected to the east side and do my show on the west side. This is a time of like, transition. And anybody that would look at you and say, You’re new of your dad, but you’re young. How young you know? Because I think everybody did know you when you were 12 or whatever. So giving you a hard time about your age to come on, I’ll probably be doing that to the end of time. You’ll probably be the governor of the state or the president. I’ll be still be like, are you 18?
Karson Kamenetz 09:21
Well, the rule is, stick, dude, when I’m old, then you can’t call me old, all right, that’s, that’s the rule. Then I
Nestor Aparicio 09:27
still feel young, but I’m definitely old. I’m definitely not young. I think you’re young. No, I’m young at heart, but so you’re but redistricting and all that, there’s, it’s been upheaval all the way around, not just on the west side. It’s been, you know,
8Karson Kamenetz 09:39
it was a two and a half year process where folks said, Okay, this is what we’re going to do. We’re going to expand from seven members to now nine, to shrink the size of each district, to ensure more accurate community representation is possible, and to allow folks with different backgrounds, you know, ethnicities, ages, to run and you. The process took a long time. It was very divisive. And on the west side, specifically, we had districts one, two and three, or, sorry, one two and four. And now we have 1234, and half of five, all on the west side. And that means a lot of communities got spliced up in different ways. My my district specifically, it has Stevenson and green Spring Valley, which are, you know, upper middle class, upper class families, and then, you know, Pikesville locker and Milford Mill. It’s incredibly diverse, not just ethnically or racially, but socioeconomically. And I think that’s why it’s so important, that when folks go to the voting booth and decide who am I going to pick, they pick somebody who not only knows where we’re going in the next generation, but also where we came from, and I think,
Nestor Aparicio 10:43
but also, instead of just picking people that look like them or go to the same synagogue or church or have the same skin color, I miss Baltimore, come on, let’s call the come back to the truth that the silos we’ve all lived in. And I don’t know if you saw Dan Roderick show from 1966 but it was just so I’m a big
Karson Kamenetz 11:01
Dan Roderick fan. I have to did you go
Nestor Aparicio 11:03
8to the show? I didn’t go to the show was unbelievable, because it told the story of this city from 60 years ago that hasn’t changed as much as maybe we would like it to. And Dan poked real hard at that real in a funny way, but it’s not funny and it’s not poignant. And when you start splicing the county up in 2026 and we’re still talking about maybe Jewish people voting for a Jewish candidate, black and white. And the fight that went that goes on underneath of that, when it comes to schooling, money, crime, which side of Liberty Road you live on, or like I lived through that in Dundalk, right? I mean, you know, Turner’s all the things that I went through as a young person that I didn’t even understand when I was your age. Like, literally, yeah. So I mean, I’m very proud of you, your dad. Be proud of you for running, just putting yourself out here in this way. But this is what you’re inheriting in Trump Landia as well. Yeah, yeah.
Karson Kamenetz 11:54
And I gotta tell you, you know, there is that identity politics. I think we see it top down from the national level. But I think more than anything, the bar is so, so incredibly low for our elected officials and politicians. If you show up, that is half the battle. And I think people are much more willing to vote for you if they see you showing up, if they see you come with good ideas and a new, fresh energy, regardless of race, you know, creed, anything, because folks see the problems. We all agree on the problems. It’s just about getting somebody into office that’s willing to be honest about how we fix that.
Nestor Aparicio 12:27
What are the problems? And your district number is now,
Karson Kamenetz 12:30
now four. Just four,
8Nestor Aparicio 12:31
all right. And this is locker and Pikesville around the beltway, sort of like where the Pikesville Hilton is, yes, sort of out past roost Chris and up like a little
Karson Kamenetz 12:41
toward green spring, correct? So it goes all the way up to caves and Broadway. So, okay, all of Stevenson, almost all of the typical green Spring Valley, but
Nestor Aparicio 12:48
not really, Owings Mills, no
Karson Kamenetz 12:51
8at all, unless you call Lenny’s deli Owings Mills, and that’s, that’s
Nestor Aparicio 12:54
like the right side of Avalon, exactly.
Karson Kamenetz 12:57
Yeah. McDonough, no, not McDonald’s. Too far north McDonald road is the line?
Nestor Aparicio 13:03
Okay? I’m just doing this like a citizen, like
8Karson Kamenetz 13:07
a Baltimore County I gotta tell you, half the battle while we’re knocking on doors, and we’ve done 1000s where folks are saying, I didn’t even know that there was a redistricting. What district Am I in?
Nestor Aparicio 13:16
Who is pub? Because there’s not one source of getting good information, no.
Karson Kamenetz 13:21
And that’s part of the problem. It’s that we have a county government that isn’t using technology the way it should, and isn’t disseminating information. It simply isn’t modern enough. And that doesn’t mean for our older adults. Hey, we’re expecting to get online to check out this information. It means that it shouldn’t be me as a candidate, knocking door, showing you how to do this. It means somebody from the county should be showing up, especially for our older adults and seniors, and saying, Hey, this is how you get your services. This is the money you are already leaving on the table. This is how you see even the lowest things, like what district you’re now a part of. It’s, it’s an uphill battle with that stuff. It feels like government is always the last to modernize in this country. Well, because
Nestor Aparicio 14:01
8it moves so fast. Yeah, you know, apps and mobile. And for a 24 year old young man, by the way, Carson cabinets is my guest here. We’re Costa said. It’s all brought to you by the Maryland lottery, GBMC, where I’m doing walk a mile in their shoes on Friday, and encourage everybody come out for that on the south Chapman, four o’clock. And, of course, foreign and Dermer, which is not in your district, because they’re a little too far up in Owings for you, but the notion that, like these problems we have, and you see, when you knock on doors, everybody’s got a different complaint. Everybody’s got a different point of view. Some of it may be accurate, some of maybe wildly inaccurate, or just uninformed. Or I use the word ignorant because, in Dundalk, ignorant meant you were, like, rude, ignorant just means, like you’re just ignoring, you just don’t know. You’re just not looking for answers or solutions. And this politician want to be knocks on your door and says, Are you registered? How are you registered? You know what district you’re in? Do you know this is a primary election? Do you know it’s June 23 because I felt kind of late to me when I looked it up. You know, I’m like, absolutely April. We got. Be electing soon here, like they like and then I literally, when I looked this up in January, and I’m not a candidate hopeful, or want to be in any way anymore, I’m done with that. But I left that when I left,
Karson Kamenetz 15:12
yeah, you got to leave the door open always
Nestor Aparicio 15:16
that I’m not running for office. Can I say that
Karson Kamenetz 15:19
I endorse Nestor? All right,
8Nestor Aparicio 15:21
maybe I’m thinking about it. All right, you need help. No, I would just say, like, what is the number one complaint you hear, and what is your platform? This is not like my wife. Now, when I was gonna run you a bit of a platform, I said nobody’s gonna read it anyway. They don’t know where to find it. What are the three biggest problems we have in the county? I know when I’ve talked to other county executive candidates, whether it’s Nick or Izzy or Julian, they’ve all talked about flight from the county you’re running for. Is your district growing, shrinking where you know where you are, is different than running for county executive when at bat diary or later on, about county problems, they used to be your dad’s problems, and Mueller and everybody else, but the issues in your district alone. What? Crime, policing, schools, money, seniors, all the above, right?
Karson Kamenetz 16:10
Sure. So, I mean, I’ll tell you, you really hit it on the nail when you’re knocking on doors, folks aren’t always telling you the same thing. They don’t always have the problems in their head ready to just spout out to you like a fire hose, you know. So you have to work at it. You really have to talk to people. And my job, what I see my job is, if elected, is focusing on the issues that we all agree exist, because that’s, that’s, you know, sort of your responsibility as an elected officials
Nestor Aparicio 16:35
to look out for the constituent services would mean, like potholes, right? And that’s
Karson Kamenetz 16:39
8a large part of the job. But, you know, first and foremost, I think every single door in neighborhoods across this district care about reckless driving and speeding. I hear it every day in my life, and it’s really because of how we developed this county, from the get go, since this Chow, since the charter was formed in the 50s and 60s, when we really started to grow, we now have a lot of roads that are aside Reisterstown or Liberty Road that folks are using. These are neighborhood streets to avoid congestion, and I gotta tell you, Google Maps will push you through it absolutely. And when you talk about the fact that for the first time in 100 years, people are leaving this county, and then you look on their neighborhood street and parents are telling me they can’t let their children play outside because they’re so concerned about a car speeding up mill for Mill Road or winan road.
Nestor Aparicio 17:28
It they should see me on 83 trying to get road here.
Karson Kamenetz 17:32
Fortunately, we have some speed cameras there, you know. But I saw
Nestor Aparicio 17:36
workers out today on the way here, like Charles Street and was 45 and I’ve gotten the, you know, the ticket for going too fast, you know, on 95 with a little camera flashes in the middle of the night, like what just happened here, but the tragedy we had on the West Side A few years ago over security with workers and stuff like that. It feels like we’re in a constant state of construction, if you’re on 695, and it feels like people are driving. And Rogerson, I’ve talked about this too. It’s, it’s insane. Yeah, I don’t ever get on the highway and make it from York Road to to Bel Air road without seeing three insane, crazy people or people look like they’re literally racing for money. Yeah. And it’s,
8Karson Kamenetz 18:15
it’s a broader crime issue. Absolutely, there are raceways across this state, and it’s pretty unbelievable. And and I am not innocent of participating when I’m in a hurry. You know,
Nestor Aparicio 18:25
I think that. See, I never drive fast. Maybe I shouldn’t have been. I don’t drive fast. I was expecting, oh yeah, one that said five of the speeding flash tickets in the middle of the night because I’m driving somewhere and I’m just going 67 and a 55 and there’s nobody on the road, but like my wife, we giggle about it because she never gets banged and I’m always the one that the little ticket shows up and I I am not the guy that drives. I’m like, I’m the least aggressive driver ever. I frustrate people. Good for it’s not my I don’t I’m just never in a hurry anymore. I know it’s part of being old. When I was your age, I was a disaster, man, imagine me at 24 Dude, stop.
Karson Kamenetz 19:03
I bet you were killing it, you know. But the speeding is really the symptom of the larger problem. Folks feel less safe in this county than they have ever to be honest with you, and and the police department is saying, Hey, we’re short 300 officers that we need to keep people safe in this county, to the point where in Pikesville, there’s one traffic cop in the Pikesville precinct. The entire day of this area is covered by one scene.
Nestor Aparicio 19:25
8I would say, like, the way you make money is put more cops out, give more tickets. That’s what I would think. Like, yeah, I’m thinking like, that’s a solution, one of the hardest parts. And I hear Don every time I see this jackass headset, talk about murdering people with our military, literally, war, criminal, Department of War, MF, under a prison. The notion that policing is such a tough job that nobody wants. You’re 24 you’re not running for being a cop. I am certainly not, and I You’re. Mother, your cousin, someone you love, your neighbor, your best friend. There was something about being a little boy and wanting to be a postman or a policeman or a doctor or a lawyer, you know, whatever you would want to be when you’re a little boy, wanting to be a police officer. And listen, this speaks to being blue and all of the dirty cops we had in Baltimore City doing all sorts of things we’ve made movies about, and all of that, the nobility in it. And I hear Don Moller in my ear a lot, but one of the things he would always say, you don’t want to be a cop, because you’re looking for adventure, you know, and what person makes a good cop, and how hard that would be to find. And I think that that’s as much an issue as budget. If you had a billion dollars and you paid every cop 250 grand a year, it still would be a really hard job, and it would still be really hard getting the right people in that job.
Karson Kamenetz 20:49
I think you’re totally right, and that’s why we have to really look at recruitment and retention. And you mentioned the budget, and you know, on the council, the council members can only cut or mend the budget. We can’t add to it. So really, when I talk about police, I talk about what I’m going to be prioritizing. When it comes to budget season, I’m going to be cutting areas that I think are seriously not necessary. You know, I always talk about the Towson loop, and I hope that Johnny O and David Marks aren’t going to kill me for saying this, but I think it’s $7 million expenditure that we spend every year that can easily be allocated towards anything else, and it would have more use. I I frankly, have never seen anybody ride on this Towson loop, for example. So we’re gonna have to cut a lot of these inefficiencies and really prioritize what matters most to people. And I think first and foremost that’s making sure that they feel safe on their streets, in their car, driving to school, walking their kid to the bus stop before work. So you’re gonna
Nestor Aparicio 21:40
see that means traffic and police. Oh, yeah,
Karson Kamenetz 21:42
you’re absolutely right. Yeah, 100% and they go hand in hand. You know, the police department has a certain number of mobile speed camera units, and they rotate them. And these are $3,500 and for some reason, they can’t get more of them. So neighborhoods that are begging and begging that get 80% of their street to sign up for this camera. They get it for two weeks, two weeks to stop this speeding that is driving them to leave this county in the first place, because they feel so unsafe.
8Nestor Aparicio 22:09
That’s a Carson candidates. Is here. This is one of the three people say. Why do you do Baltimore pub? Well, I can only do so much on the Orioles and only so much on the Ravens lion and they’re lunching in the I mean, and I do a lot on that. But like I this is the first time I’ve heard this issue. Maybe I need to get Mike or tell on over here. You know, whenever Crandall leaves Dundalk, I had David Marks on a couple weeks ago. People think I don’t have Republicans. I’m having one coming right after you. So stop with all that nonsense. I have seen people on but I but Patrick Dyer won’t sit here and make a stink about Trump. We’ll go at it. But, you know, I don’t have a problem with that. But I always
Karson Kamenetz 22:45
say, if you’re politicizing local issues like potholes and speeding, I think we’re really in trouble. So I well, I feel
Nestor Aparicio 22:51
the same way. We’ll have David Marx on because, like, I don’t know that if we really sat and talked about things, we’d have a lot in common in that way. But he comes on every six months, and, I mean, he came on right after White Marsh had a real problem on a weekend night, and he was leaving me to go do a town hall on White Marsh. And they had a they had a fight over there. And Fox News, you know, made it, whatever Fox News wants to make it, but the notion of cars going too fast in front of my children in my neighborhood, that’s different than somebody’s gonna abduct my kid or shoot my you know, like those kinds of criminal parent things you would think about this is just do, do the speed limit, put some bumps in, like we’ve done, you know, I drive on roads back here in Towson, sometimes charmuth, and some of these places where I’m going over to the radio station, wherever, and I’ve seen speed bumps pop up, and I’ve seen neighborhoods just say we’re gonna put a big hump up, because we don’t Want idiocy here, and this, I shouldn’t even say this too, because I grew up over in Bank Street and Colgate and east side. This was a an issue my parents had, 1978 about people driving too fast, and the next neighborhood took it to the next level, Eastwood, where Johnny O’s people were from, where his dad, they put stop signs on every corner four way in a little row house neighborhood, and that freaked everybody out. And then they put speed bumps up after that, I tell you, I remember going, I had a girlfriend. Neighborhood, up and down, up and down. And I’m like, the hell are you when you’re 18, you don’t understand. Maybe some of
Karson Kamenetz 24:12
8them are pretty bad, I gotta tell you, but I think you
Nestor Aparicio 24:15
gotta let it slow people down. Remember Essex as a kid? They put those humps in on roads, regular little roads. And it just makes people think like kids might be rolling down here on a bike, man, you know.
Karson Kamenetz 24:28
And it’s not just, you know, oh, you know, these darn kids or these darn people speeding. And it’s, it’s a real issue when you think about again, why people are leaving.
Nestor Aparicio 24:37
Well, in the modern day, you have a phone, you can, you record it. Record, yeah, say this person’s a jack wagon. Yeah.
8Karson Kamenetz 24:42
And there have been multiple fatalities in my district alone, in, you know, this fiscal year, since 26 started, because of serious, you know, violations of our, of our traffic law, people going double,
Nestor Aparicio 24:54
triple the speed limit, old folks who can’t get across the street.
Karson Kamenetz 24:58
My district, especially. Especially is one of the
Nestor Aparicio 25:01
8oldest in the county. I Oh, I hear that from everybody that the county is
Karson Kamenetz 25:03
getting older, not the not the oldest, the most mature, the most experienced in the county. I would say
Nestor Aparicio 25:09
this, this kid’s working all right. Election mail in all of that, June 23 Give me your pathway here the next eight weeks as aspiring political
Karson Kamenetz 25:21
hope for cars, yeah. I mean, everywhere I’m going, people keep telling me different versions of this same thing. You know, we love this place. This is a beautiful, beautiful county, 200 miles of waterfront that you lived a lot closer to than I did growing up. 2000 miles of stream, not yet, right? Not yet. And our green space, you know, we have such amazing parks, not just destination parks, but, you know, pocket parks. And I think if we can expand on what makes this county great, we can prevent people from leaving folks move here because it has that suburban feel, and we can’t remove that. We can’t do what we can to advance past that, because that’s what people want. You know, Pikesville is a village. It’s not a metropolitan center. It’s a village. And we need somebody that’s going to lead accordingly, that understands, hey, this is what Pikesville is. This is what Woodlawn is. This is what locker and Milford Mill are. And we need to redevelop and restore what we already have before we start going and putting pressure on that beauty that people move to come here to enjoy in the first place. So I think to prevent people from leaving, that’s my main task. That’s my path. That’s the vision. And we do that by building on the great bones that we already have here
8Nestor Aparicio 26:33
in this county. Well, I’m, you know, I’m gonna go up to your website now, because I’m gonna give you opportunity here to sure to really give me the 1000 points of light and the Carson cabinet campaign.
Karson Kamenetz 26:42
Which name, which Carson for the county,
Nestor Aparicio 26:45
for the county? Fo are, yeah, for the county. Oh yeah. All right, I want to look, because listen, my wife, when I was going to run for office, she’s like, You got to have a platform. Oh yeah, we so. There it is. Meet Carson. All right. Give him some money. Here we go. All right, safer communities, stronger schools and a government for everybody. We love this place. That’s it
Karson Kamenetz 27:05
8perfect, yep. So you know, would love to talk to you about schools too. So I remember dad air conditioned them all he got
Nestor Aparicio 27:15
and Colgate done. Johnny Oh came over and gave the final Papa blessing after we lost your dad, I was wearing a mask. I’m all choked up and crying over Colgate. And the other thing about Colgate that is amazing, and this is speaks to the county, maybe not your side of the county, but in general, the way people look like me and ice comes and drags
Karson Kamenetz 27:31
them out, you’re not going anywhere.
Nestor Aparicio 27:35
Almost 80% of my elementary school is Hispanic. Now the old percentage was Hispanic in 1979 me Angie Flores, Tony Flores and Ricky Flores, there were four of us. Wow, that were Hispanic. They were from Colombia. My father was from Venezuela. And all of us were great, total gringos, you know, like speak English, like all that. When I’ve talked to the teachers over there, you know, the parents second language, the ESOL, the fear of ice, all of this nonsense that’s going on the country about immigration. We’re such a diverse county, I guess is what I’m saying, you know, and you talk about diverse, diverse district and where you are schooling and children, that’s just got to come first, man, and yeah, and
8Karson Kamenetz 28:19
it’s also a financial decision too, because businesses go where talent is anchored. So our schools are not producing the level of talent that our largest employers, like trade point, like BWI, like the Port of Baltimore, like McCormick say they want and need. I think gone are the days where a four year university is a prerequisite to success in this country. I think we’re generally but
Nestor Aparicio 28:39
half the kids that I went to school. We thought they were going to get a job at the point or a GM back in the day. That was because their dad worked there. Yeah, well, that didn’t, that didn’t work out, you know, like the educational part of where we’re going. Your young whippersnapper, Carson, how AI were you? You aied up?
Karson Kamenetz 28:54
Yet? I’m AI ed up? Yeah, I’m not using it for campaign or political stuff, but I gotta tell you, in law school, when you need summaries or sort of tips, it is a very helpful tool. It tends to hallucinate. I would say it tends to I
Nestor Aparicio 29:09
8had a hallucination this morning. It hallucinated the Orioles that only won five of play since 2006 and they’ve won six, really, Luke’s. Luke cleared that up for me. It was missing a victory against the Yankees, of all teams in 2012 So, yes, all right,
29:27
the wrong way with me. We’re done with AI.
Nestor Aparicio 29:29
You know, don’t take my clone away from me, dude. No, I got aI up six months ago, 57 years old, and I would tell anyone, look, I could stop doing all this and just talk AI all day, because I’m immersed in it. I feel behind the curve, but I’m way ahead. That’s just sort of the normal cadence of a 57 year old, because I want to take it all in now and execute it all now, sure, but I know it’s there, and I’ve called it a wonky Vader to me like I’m gonna push the button. I don’t know where. Going to go but something really crazy is going to happen. And I feel that way about AI, and it’s changed my life dramatically. And I don’t want to go back. I want to go forward. I want to go forward, better, safer, all of that, but the AI part, if last time I was with you, I think you came out about a year ago, hung out here with your pub. I didn’t AI, you know, it
Karson Kamenetz 30:18
wasn’t right at the moment. Now I’m
8Nestor Aparicio 30:21
I can’t wait to get done with all of you today and go home and play. You know, I mean, every day I discover something else I can do that’s really cool.
Karson Kamenetz 30:28
Think about teachers, right? When they’re reading an essay written by a student. How do you even
Nestor Aparicio 30:33
know cheating part of it? Oh, yeah. Were Cliff’s Notes when I was a kid?
Karson Kamenetz 30:36
8Yeah? You know, I remember Cliff’s Notes?
Nestor Aparicio 30:38
Yeah, your dad was the one that didn’t read the Cliff Notes. He wrote red Moby Dick. Yeah, I still read a story. I read Of Mice and Men, but I all those Steinbeck books that I wrote essays on Easter Eden, and I have grapes around.
Karson Kamenetz 30:50
I don’t read any of that. I I went to my old high school. I went to Gilman school in the city.
Nestor Aparicio 30:57
They made you read the real book. There they
8Karson Kamenetz 30:59
they made you read the book, and I returned.
Nestor Aparicio 31:00
Your parents were paying for you to go there. I hope you
Karson Kamenetz 31:02
read the real book. You know, every dollar, every dollar was a minute at Gilman, dollar a minute there, I saw an old teacher, and she said, you know, Carson, the book that you said at the end of the year that you really enjoyed. I’ve never heard anybody else say that before. It’s called the passing by nella Larson, or passing by Noah Larson, and great book, boring to talk about right now, right? Okay, but anyway, she said that because she had a student that she told me that didn’t read a page and submitted this wonderful essay about this book that he didn’t read. And absolutely you could do that back in the day with Cliff Notes, but he used AI. This is
Nestor Aparicio 31:41
8sophisticated, right now, you know, I set up. I’m admitting this to you for the first time on the air. I set up my voice clone over the weekend, and I set up my video clone. So this is the last
Karson Kamenetz 31:52
live radio show. You’re just
Nestor Aparicio 31:54
AI from here on air. Is the problem? I’m so effing expressive that getting the voice to sound like me is more difficult because of the cadence that sometimes I talk really fast, and sometimes I’m reading an ad, and sometimes I’m emotive. So I’m trying to figure that out, but I did, because Bill Kohl’s my friend, and he sponsors our wnst tech service. Of course, I put a commercial in in the in the Nestor voice, and it created it well enough that I know I could fool him with it. So I sent it to him the other day, and did he buy it? I don’t know. Man, like, Hold on. Let me see. Let me see if we will do this, by the way. Carson Camden, so give me your thing, and then we’ll let you get out of here and and we’re gonna vote for you and do all that. Tell me what your fourth
Karson Kamenetz 32:38
district, right? Yep. So this is the fourth district of Baltimore County. My name is Carson Kamenetz. Would love for you to check out my website. It’s Carson with a K for the county.com and we’re going to fight because our communities, time and time again, have been left behind, whether it comes to our school system, whether it comes to development around them instead of with them, and most importantly, public safety, you have nothing without that safety, and folks are leaving this place because they don’t feel safe and because it’s getting too expensive. So we’re going to, we have a pretty detailed plan on our website about what we’re going to do and how, and it’s all around the budget, because the budget is a value statement. It tells you how you’re going to act. It tells you what you’re going to support, what you’re going to deny, and too often we’re denying the things that people see us denying, and then they leave because of it. So if we want a strong tax base in the future, if we want to grow at a steady rate, we have to get a handle on reckless driving. We have to get a handle on our education system. We have to make sure our community members feel safe go to the grocery store, that our older adults can get a ride to church or across the street
8Nestor Aparicio 33:41
without getting hit by a maniac. Yeah?
Karson Kamenetz 33:42
Yeah. Rice town road, you know, broken crosswalks, broken sidewalks. That’s step one, in my opinion, is revitalizing where we have good bones like that. Reisterstown Road, Pike, how do we
Nestor Aparicio 33:52
get a message out about muddy drivers, other than ticking in the hell out of them, right? Like, yeah? Like, I don’t know. You know,
Karson Kamenetz 33:59
8I so I think it’s neighborhood by neighborhood. You know, some neighborhoods have to literally go down. People. Where are you going? Yeah, yeah. If we all had less urgency, maybe everybody would be more successful.
Nestor Aparicio 34:10
Look, I’ve been doing radio. How many are 35 years? How old are you 2424
34:16
year? Were you born a one?
Nestor Aparicio 34:19
Yeah. But so the technology piece here, I’m gonna try to see if this ad, if I can get it to play, and I’m gonna turn up this other Yep, that mics working. Let’s see here. All right, if your roof made it through winter, don’t celebrate yet. Check it. Coal Roofing has been doing that for Baltimore for over 100 years. A smart move now will always save you later. Coal roofing, don’t wait for a problem and make sure you subscribe to the wnst tech service brought to you by coal roofing and
8Karson Kamenetz 34:50
Gordian energy. It’s spot on. I gotta tell you, though it’s a little too slow for you, that’s the one thing. It’s not I don’t think I’ve ever heard you speak so slowly. Boy. Two more. Yeah.
Nestor Aparicio 35:00
Yeah, I wouldn’t say it that way. It’s like, wait, the way you say County, like Don Muller says, county, county, county, county, county. Yeah, almost, listen, unless you don’t say it, right, I’m not gonna vote. Are you a
Karson Kamenetz 35:13
water or a water? Yeah, see, my father was water, and we made fun of it so much. I’m a water guy. Now you know in that that dialog translate.
Nestor Aparicio 35:21
8I don’t know my Dundalk comes up in strange ways, and I don’t know what it is like. My wife’s from New Hampshire, and I hear Albernaz, and I’m like, I told Luke. I’m like, it’s hard for me to stay with him. I mean, with the accents tough, yeah, right, in the early going. And, you know, my wife speaks a different language after two beers, you know, from New Hampshire, yeah, absolutely. So it’s a little different. I don’t know where my done dog comes out, but sometimes my wife, personally,
Karson Kamenetz 35:45
that was pretty Dundalk. I think your done dog comes out every time you’re on the radio. To be honest with you, I feel it, you know, I feel it. And it’s a good thing. It’s a
Nestor Aparicio 35:54
good thing. Well, that was my AI clone, so that wasn’t bad. Yeah, right. That was great. It’s first time I played it for anybody shocking it out on the young guys. I’m trying it out seeing that works. Carson cabinets is running for office in the fourth district here at Baltimore County. He is the son of Kevin Kamenetz and Hi Jill and good luck to you, bro. Thank you very much. I like smart conversations, no matter where they are, and I certainly like it with people much younger. You give whether you win or lose, you. Give me a little bit of hope for freaking humanity that somebody Young’s out trying to do something good. I appreciate that.
Karson Kamenetz 36:25
And I tell you, we’re gonna win this thing.
8Nestor Aparicio 36:26
All right, I’m not giving any money, I’m telling you, right?
Karson Kamenetz 36:29
That’s all right. That’s all right. Come knock
Nestor Aparicio 36:30
some doors, though. Same thing I used to say when I was single, the girls, I can’t give you money, but I give you
Karson Kamenetz 36:34
8Love, you know. So there you go. And what did they say?
Nestor Aparicio 36:36
Back? Yeah. Rather have money, yeah. Bring me the chocolates in the flowers. I’m gonna bring you the crab cakes here. But never crabs, because we’re Costas in Timonium, not Costa down Dundalk. If you want crabs, go to Dundalk. You want crab cakes come out here. And they’re doing this construction. And right before I went on the air, first segment I did, I did with Drew van landing in from the foundation. We’re here about six minutes in. And right before I went and did the show, I went and peed, because I’m old and I had, I’ve been in here eight times since Christmas at that bar, my wife and I, we in here about once a week. You know, we put pictures up, and I don’t think I’ve peed here since, like, fall, because it’s cold out and the bathrooms down here, and I live five minutes from here, so, like, getting home was no problem, and I’m like, I’m gonna go the bathroom. And I went, and it’s like, a whole different experience here. Now you’re kidding, they have built,
Karson Kamenetz 37:28
go pee, but when you get I’m
Nestor Aparicio 37:30
gonna be they, he’s it’s construction. Have you felt your high knee move? Were you here? We had the earthquake 12 years ago. Remember the earthquake? Oh, yeah. I remember, yeah, yeah. Everything shook. I was at school. Everything shook here an hour ago. And I’m like, mahini moved in the same way an earthquake or like turbulence would move me. And I’m realizing they’re doing construction here. I think it’s just the so have you felt the rumble?
8Karson Kamenetz 37:50
I think it’s just your show to be no. Dude, this
Nestor Aparicio 37:52
camera was moving when they were drilling earlier, really. Oh, not with you and me, but the segment before. So I had that motion thing going on here. So we’re out at the track.
Karson Kamenetz 38:01
They’re getting greater and better here.
Nestor Aparicio 38:03
8They’re improving. It’s a construction zone out here. Dick Girardi was on this week talking about the future of the Preakness and the race. It was not happy talk. It was real talk. So, but he loves He calls this the spa on York Road. That was the name for that was the horse guys. They call
Karson Kamenetz 38:20
this the spa, okay, not my type of Spa.
Nestor Aparicio 38:25
Well, there is no TB over here, and the races are going on, so we come out here and Timonium, it’s never a dull moment. But whatever you do, and this is for the family, for the trianti, follows family. If you’re ordering carry out and Dundalk, make sure you’re going to Dundalk to pick it up if you’re ordering carry out, because they’ve had this communication gap. Sure, somebody leaves a message in Timonium and they want their food and Dundalk or vice versa. So there’s still the one year. It’s been one year since we lost dad around here, pub, pub, and one year since they’ve opened up CASAS Timonium. So it’s always good to have people. So it has been the last year because you came out.
Karson Kamenetz 38:56
It was August, August or something. This was brand new.
8Nestor Aparicio 38:59
We came out. Your mom’s first
Karson Kamenetz 39:00
time out here. Yeah, we love it here. We’re here all the time too. Got it to go? We need something like this in Pikesville. I got to tell you, I am sick of driving for a crab cake. Okay? I want one right
Nestor Aparicio 39:11
at home. Dude, when you were like, 12 years old, you did the show, and I asked you where you got your crab cakes. And you the Chinese joining Joey shoes. Joey choose.
Karson Kamenetz 39:18
8Pretty good. Yeah, not gonna install Joey over there, you know, it’s a great restaurant, but I, I’ve had a better crab cake, you know, since
Nestor Aparicio 39:27
then, a little bit. Yeah, I still will get the shrimp toast over there. I get pretty good egg for younger I get, like, a chicken, chicken chow mein. Yeah, I’ve had lunch in there.
Karson Kamenetz 39:35
Many can’t be Joey’s. Great drinks too. It’s a good crowd. It’s a fun time. I have a
Nestor Aparicio 39:38
friend that I’m not allowed to be friends with that I have lunch with there. Sometimes interesting.
8Karson Kamenetz 39:42
Now I’m curious. I’m a journalist.
Nestor Aparicio 39:45
Carson, not gonna give you my source who’s tipping you off? I know I’m famous for the people who don’t love me here, they’re far more people who love me than dislike I agree with you. It’s God’s honest truth. Yeah, my wife would tell you that. So, you know, I think, I think, you know, I am beloved by the
Karson Kamenetz 40:04
right people. When you’re looking online, the only people that are commenting are the ones that aren’t the ones that you want to like you anyway. You know,
Nestor Aparicio 40:12
8that’s kind of how I you know, what I’ve had is a bunch of bots with all sorts of awful racial things, and they’re all following Trump. If they’re bots, I mean, they’re not real people in any way. With the picture
Karson Kamenetz 40:22
with the sunglasses on, yeah,
Nestor Aparicio 40:25
they got a fake name, like Rob Johnny or John Robbie or you, that is make names up. It’s all anti black, anti Trump or aunt, pro Trump, anti me, anti it’s and then you look and see that it’s not even like a really, it’s not a real account. Yeah? And I’m thinking like, this is I post so much about hating Trump that the bots are the Russian bots that are out defending him are like, jumping me, yeah.
Karson Kamenetz 40:50
So who do you want on your side? Nestor or the Russians? Right? That’s the real question here. Why ask that question? In 2016
8Nestor Aparicio 40:57
it didn’t go well in parts of Middle River. I got to be honest with you, Carson Kamenetz is here. He’s running for office. I’m not. So I can say whatever I want, but if this young, good looking guy knocks on your door, feel free to give him all your problems about potholes, people driving too fast, crime schools,
Karson Kamenetz 41:11
because you’re here for it. Yes, sir, yeah. Relentlessly, we’re showing up. So get used to it. I don’t say
Nestor Aparicio 41:17
this to most people. I would vote for you. Well, thank you. I can’t vote for you, but I would vote for you.
Karson Kamenetz 41:21
8You know, I’m not gonna say it, but come vote anyway, you know.
Nestor Aparicio 41:24
All right, I’m gonna say to you what your dad said to you with Don Moeller said to every kid, he told me this, that every kid that ever came into his office when he was the principal, the door would shut. And this is for Don too, and for anybody else. Jeff Muller, I’m sure, has heard this too. All right, look, whatever you do, don’t lie to me. Let’s start with that. And I think that’s a good space to start with everybody, right?
Karson Kamenetz 41:46
Absolutely, don’t lie to me again the Bible. So that’s good. The bar is low. I don’t
Nestor Aparicio 41:50
know what kind of politician or county Councilman you’re going to be, but be an honest one. How about that? Yeah, yeah,
8Karson Kamenetz 41:54
that’s that. All right. And if I’m not,
Nestor Aparicio 41:57
your dad died, missing. A lot of people off, but nobody caught him dishonest. That’s the truth. That’s the truth. That’s the truth.
Karson Kamenetz 42:02
Yeah, and people remember that you respect that?
Nestor Aparicio 42:05
8Well, 35 years into this, I said that to an Oriole fan yesterday. I’m like, you can say whatever you want about me, but I haven’t lied you 35 years. So if that’s angered you, then
Karson Kamenetz 42:13
be angry. Little different than our president. And that’s, that’s what I’ll say. You know, people are people are fairly selective about who they care. Lies to that nowadays.
Nestor Aparicio 42:23
He portrayed himself as Jesus Christ three mornings ago. So yeah, like, I’m president, he is risen. Yeah, we’re going to change that, and when we do, they’re not going to have enough cold beer here. Cost us back for more for cost is in we’re in Timonium, not Dundalk, but I’ll be back in Dundalk. I’ll be at Koco’s Next Thursday the 23rd on the first of May, we are at Pizza John’s in Essex. I’m really looking forward to that. On the seventh of May, we’ll be across the street from here at Planet Fitness and Timonium. I’m looking forward to angels energy and me getting my big new year’s top hat on. I can honestly say I’m in better shape than I was at Christmas time, because I walked 15 miles a day, every day, through South America last month. But I am. I’m getting fat. My back’s hurting me here, so I got to get over to Planet Fitness. May 7, May 13. We’ll be back at Fayette Lee’s at Lexington market, doing the crab races for the Preakness. Ivan Bates gonna join me that day, and he’s gonna be one of the celebrity crab guys. The problem that day is if BJ sur off shows up, because he’s competitive, so and BJ is close with the family there, with Amy and everybody, and hey, fishmonger’s daughter. I’m not supposed to say this on the air, but I received a very special invite earlier today. No, it’s not your district. I’ll talk to Pat young and you know all of that over in Catonsville, but they’re, they’re this close to getting fishmonger’s daughter open next week, certainly into May, so I’m looking forward to that. So we’ll be back at fadeleys, the original on the 13th of May for the crab races all the brought to you by the Maryland lottery. Oh, hey, you’re um, you can have one of these. Which do you want? Acid teak ponies, Carson, or do you want board walk? Leave that one for me. Do you want the black water motif of Heron, crabs, oysters, Bay and what else is on there? Oh, birds
Karson Kamenetz 44:03
on there. That sounds real sophisticated.
8Nestor Aparicio 44:05
Or do you want to spread spans of the Key Bridge? And it looks like maybe, maybe Ken Island. I don’t know what it’s, one of the islands over there. Give me one
Karson Kamenetz 44:14
Key Bridge in its honor. It’s not Key Bridge.
Nestor Aparicio 44:17
It’s Bay Bridge. Paper. Okay, that one. We got to get the key break
Karson Kamenetz 44:23
8too soon. Supposed to be done by now.
Nestor Aparicio 44:29
Wes call me. I am Nestor. We are W NST AM, 1570 Towson, Baltimore, back for more. We’re Baltimore positive. Stay with us. You.
