Minting the new era with more of the same Hard Ball?

The Baltimore Ravens made former defensive assistant Jesse Minter the new head coach of the operation in Owings Mills on Thursday afternoon. Luke Jones and Nestor discuss the decision to stay very rooted in the Harbaugh tree by hiring a defensive coordinator who Lamar Jackson is familiar with from three seasons together here. Is this big change – or just a continuation of the same program with a freshly minted face?

Nestor Aparicio and Luke Jones discussed the hiring of Jesse Minter as the new head coach of the Baltimore Ravens. They highlighted Minter’s defensive prowess, noting his success with the Los Angeles Chargers and his familiarity with the Ravens organization. They speculated on Minter’s staffing decisions, including potential offensive coordinators like Cliff Kingsbury. They also reflected on the departure of John Harbaugh, emphasizing Minter’s leadership style and the need for a balanced approach between strategy and emotional intelligence. The conversation concluded with plans for the 25th anniversary of the Ravens’ championship and upcoming events.

• [ ] @Nestor Aparicio – Book and host guests from the Super Bowl 35 team and archival guests for the Ravens 25th anniversary celebration segment (confirm lineup and logistics for Wednesday)
• [ ] @Nestor Aparicio – Publish the timely Thursday-night item on the website at 5:00 PM as planned (post Chad Steele/Sashi segment)
• [ ] @Nestor Aparicio – Share and distribute the piece about Michael Bronfine (prepare and publish the segment or article referencing the interview and tribute)
• [ ] @Nestor Aparicio – Organize and run the Super Bowl week ‘cup of soup or bowl’ events at the listed venues (Faintlys Monday, El Guapo Tuesday, Koco’s Wednesday, Pizza John’s Thursday, Costas Friday) and coordinate with Maryland Food Bank and sponsors

Jesse Minter’s Career Path and Ravens Familiarity

• Nestor Aparicio introduces the topic of Jesse Minter’s career path and the Ravens’ familiarity with him.
• Nestor mentions the upcoming 25th anniversary celebration of the Ravens’ championship and the various guests and archival content planned.
• Nestor shares a personal anecdote about losing a friend, Michael Bronfine, shortly after the hiring of Jesse Minter.
• Nestor reflects on Michael Bronfine’s contributions to the community and his passion for the Ravens.

Press Conference and Staffing Decisions

• Nestor and Luke Jones discuss the timing of the press conference for Jesse Minter, scheduled for next Thursday.
• Luke explains the benefits of waiting a week to allow the staff to crystallize and avoid travel issues due to the snowstorm.
• Luke speculates on potential staffing decisions, including Jesse Minter’s role in calling plays and the possibility of Chris Horton staying as special teams coordinator.
• Nestor and Luke discuss the importance of the press conference and the questions that will be addressed.

Jesse Minter’s Background and Achievements

• Luke highlights Jesse Minter’s background, including his work with the Chargers and the praise he received from opponents.
• Nestor and Luke discuss the consistency of Minter’s defense and the top-tier statistics his teams achieved.
• Luke emphasizes the importance of Jesse Minter’s familiarity with the Ravens organization and his previous work with Mike McDonald and Wink Martindale.
• Nestor and Luke reflect on the potential changes Jesse Minter might bring to the Ravens’ defense.

Leadership and Communication Styles

• Nestor and Luke discuss the differences in leadership and communication styles between Jesse Minter and John Harbaugh.
• Luke mentions Kyle Van Noy’s observation about younger players being more focused on the “why” and “how” rather than just passion speeches.
• Nestor shares his experiences with Marvin Lewis and Jim Schwartz, emphasizing the importance of execution and technique over rah-rah.
• Luke and Nestor agree that while rah-rah has its place, the ability to make adjustments and communicate effectively is crucial.

Jesse Minter’s Networking and Influence

• Luke shares an article about Jesse Minter’s networking and the influence of people like Mike Tomlin and his father, Rick Minter.
• Nestor and Luke discuss Jesse Minter’s early career and his transition from coaching to playing college football.
• Luke highlights Jesse Minter’s work with various teams, including Cincinnati, Indiana State, and Georgia State, before joining the Ravens.
• Nestor and Luke reflect on the pedigree and potential of Jesse Minter as a head coach.

Future Staffing and Offensive Coordinator

• Nestor and Luke discuss the importance of Jesse Minter’s offensive coordinator and the potential staff members he might hire.
• Luke mentions the role of experienced voices in the room, similar to Cam Cameron’s influence on John Harbaugh.
• Nestor and Luke speculate on the potential candidates for the offensive coordinator position and their impact on the team.
• Nestor emphasizes the need for a balanced approach to coaching, combining strategy with emotional intelligence.

Ravens’ Offensive Struggles and Player Performance

• Nestor and Luke discuss the struggles of the Ravens’ offense in recent years and the impact of player performance.
• Nestor highlights the issues with players like Derrick Henry, Zay Flowers, Mark Andrews, and Bateman, and their impact on the team’s success.
• Luke and Nestor agree that while coaching is important, player performance and execution are crucial.
• Nestor reflects on the potential changes Jesse Minter might bring to the offense and the importance of rejuvenating the team.

Jesse Minter’s Potential Impact on the Ravens

• Nestor and Luke discuss the potential impact of Jesse Minter on the Ravens, both on the defensive side and the overall team dynamics.
• Luke emphasizes the importance of Jesse Minter’s familiarity with the organization and his ability to connect with players.
• Nestor and Luke reflect on the potential for Jesse Minter to bring a new energy and approach to the Ravens.
• Nestor concludes by expressing optimism about the future of the Ravens under Jesse Minter’s leadership.

SUMMARY KEYWORDS

Jesse Minter, Ravens, head coach, defensive coordinator, offensive coordinator, Lamar Jackson, Todd Monken, defensive system, player performance, coaching staff, press conference, Baltimore positive, 25th anniversary, Maryland crab cake tour.

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SPEAKERS

Nestor Aparicio, Luke Jones

Nestor Aparicio  00:01

Welcome home. We are W, N, S T am 1570 task of Baltimore. We are Baltimore positive. We have a new head coach in Owings Mills. Gonna be discussing that with Luke Jones. We’re gonna be getting the Maryland crab cake tour after the storm. We hope you’re with us. We’re gonna be celebrating the 25th anniversary of the Ravens championship on Wednesday. I’m going to have some guests from the Super Bowl, 35 team, but also just a lot of archival things. So if you’re out during the snowstorm, you click, Listen Live at Baltimore positive somehow, if you’re driving, I hope you’re not, or if you’re home and you have a radio put it on, but and obviously, out at the front of Baltimore positive, dozens, maybe as many as 100 pieces with Tony. Sarah goose is Shannon sharp, Brian Billick, Marvel, Rex, Ryan, all down the line. We will be celebrating the 25th anniversary of that before I bring Luke in, before we talk about Jesse Minter. And we have and you can find more at Baltimore positive. If you’re on the wnst tech service, you know you got a timely on Thursday night. Maybe you didn’t know AT and T but we’ve seen it out on time, and he’s five o’clock, Chad Steele and Sashi, they love 501, give it to Bal. We’ll put it on the website at five o’clock. It’d be a five o’clock thing. I lost a friend on Thursday afternoon. I mean, Thursday is such a crazy day, just in general, with Jack Smith and January 6 and and I know deniers in my life, and it really, really angers me. I’m with the drop kick Murphy. Murphy’s on this one. I don’t like Nazis, just just me, just speaking for as a Venezuela but we lost a friend. I lost Michael bronfine, and this happened moments after the hiring of Jesse Minter. Michael was the founder of Curia wellness and foreign daughter and Neighbor Care and a whole bunch of things. You’ve heard his daughter, Wendy on the show. He has been on my show with Gina shock, discussing cannabis and discussing the plant, discussing schedule one and legally, all of those things. But he’s just a great guy and a local guy and a caves guy, and one of the people that put the PGA Tour at caves and helped out and and hosted me beyond that. Just, I don’t know I’m going to share the piece, just a wonderful guy to talk to, and a super smart guy, and a guy that I’m just going to miss. So I just wanted to throw that out. I’m wearing my curio shirt, ideally, Luke, and there was no bigger rave fan than Michael Bron find ideally. This is a curio. Oh, but it looks a little bit like a Lamar eight, and it’s crazy that in the aftermath of the mentor thing, and we’re going to talk mentor, mentor, mentor, mentor, really, the big thing is, what’s going to change? And is Lamar happy? And this thing all kind of happened quickly with the snowstorm coming. I don’t even know if there’s a press conference, because, like, I don’t get Chad Steel’s email. So is there a press conference, Luke? If they scheduled such a thing,

Luke Jones  02:44

it’s scheduled for next Thursday, you know. So basically a week from which I’ll be totally honest, as much as it’s great to build on the momentum, so to speak, in terms of hearing from the coach directly, I kind of like that, because it now gives them a week first of all, not trying to drive through a foot and a half of snow, or however much is ultimately going to fall by Monday. But I think gives you a chance to let the staff crystallize a little bit in terms of who’s going to be the offensive coordinator, who’s going to be the defensive coordinator? Is Jesse mentor going to call plays which that’s my assumption at this point in time, on the defensive side of the ball. Does that mean Chris Horton, who obviously knows Jesse Minter, is going to stay as special teams coordinator? So it kind of gives you that a little bit of time for that to crystallize a little bit. You’re not going to

Nestor Aparicio  03:34

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have to ask him a bunch of questions that are going to be answered by next Thursday anyway, regard to his staff, in regard to all of that, he’s going to sit through a snowstorm and get this done from LA I from LA, I guess, yeah.

Luke Jones  03:44

I mean, however it works out. But yeah, I mean, you obviously have zoom, you have cell phones all that, so you can do all that, those kinds of things a little more easily. And I think it’s, it’s notable that the ravens, even, you know, they conducted their second interview with Joe Brady on Thursday, the same day that they hired Minter, I’m wondering how much of that was asking Joe Brady about being a head coach, and how much of that was, what do you think of Jesse Minter, and what would you think about being the offensive coordinator here, right? So you know he’s one name Cliff Kingsbury has been tossed around a lot. There have been there’s been chatter. There have been reports. I know Diana Rossini even mentioned that Lamar Jackson would be excited about working with someone like Cliff Kingsbury and other players vouched for someone like him who would bring an offense that we wouldn’t. Didn’t necessarily think of Todd Monckton as an air raid offense, but more similarities than you think so. So I think all of those questions, which are the natural next questions? You know, we’re going to talk about Minter still, but what’s next in terms of his staff, those are the natural questions, because, well, you have an MPP quarterback that you’re hoping to reinvigorate. You’re hoping to rejuvenate an offense that was incredible in 2024 Four and took a step or two back this past year. There’s no question about it, regardless of the reasons why. And it wasn’t all Todd Monckton wasn’t all Lamar Jackson’s health. Lamar Jackson was healthy. The monk and offense worked. It looked, it looked, yeah, it wasn’t perfect at the beginning of the year, but they were scoring a lot of points.

Nestor Aparicio  05:16

So let’s be honest, man. Todd Monckton, of all the dudes we’ve had around here that drew it up, probably rough around the edges for Lamar. And certainly it felt that way to me, even in the press conferences, that he was really a throwback Ball Coach. I mean, he, like, he seemed like the guy would have funny socks and a whistle and, you know, like, be a commercial kind of thing in the modern Get off my lawn, old guy kind of way. But scheme and getting guys open and taking advantage of zay flowers and taking advantage of Derek Henry, with a crappy offensive line, I could use a worse word for that, right? And with guys that, quite frankly, dropped the effing ball or got stripped or got fumbled or got turned over. I mean, Derrick Henry had a fumbling problem here. Zay flowers has a fumbling problem. Mark Andrews has a drop problem. Bateman has a problem. You know, Isaiah likely. I mean, these all are people who caught balls in Todd monkens offense with Lamar Jackson’s arm, with John Harbaugh’s leadership, with bad offensive line play for the most part. And you know, they’re all unemployed, Harbaugh got a raise, and we don’t even know if Lamar is happy or not. But I look at it on the outside now that it’s over with in the bubble, and look at it and say, might be the players dropping the ball, not the coaching, you know, or the personalities, or we lost by three points again because our defense bled 17 points in the last six minutes of a game on the road. Yeah.

Luke Jones  06:52

I mean, I look, I that’s completely fair and, and it’s not for me. It’s not either or it’s it’s not just one thing, it it’s never just one thing. That’s how the coach got fired, yeah, but, but, well, but that’s where you go back to and we talked about the same thing with Brandon Hyde last year with the Orioles, right? I mean, he can’t fire the entire roster, so the coach tends to take the fall. And how much of that is fair sometimes. I mean, it’s up for debate, but I think, and I would wholeheartedly agree with you. To me the message for everyone who’s left behind. And I didn’t, I’d throw Eric dicostia in there, right? I mean, the general manager and how the roster was built, where you look at this and say, Okay, you found Jesse Minter universally being praised. I mean, that look around the league. I mean, not just guys that were in Los Angeles, like Derwin James. I even saw someone pulled a clip from Travis kelsey’s podcast and was talking about how impressive the Chargers defense was in some spots when they when they face Kansas City. I mean, when you’re getting praise from opponents, that’s that’s saying something. One of

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Nestor Aparicio  07:59

them, though, that I can name four guys on the Chargers defense, right?

Luke Jones  08:03

Well, I mean, Darwin James is a great player, right? Khalil Mack, whatever he whoever he is now he’s, he’s a guy that’s going to be on the other side of roquan Smith, yes, right, yeah. So, so you kind of go down the list, but yeah. I mean, one of the things that you point to is, you look at the previous regime in LA with the chargers, and it’s not as though they didn’t have high expectations a few years ago, but what happened with that defense? I mean, it was just it was a major, major problem, and from the time that mentor arrived, they got Boso, right, yeah, sure, yeah, yeah. I mean, again, it’s not like they were completely devoid of talent, but you looked at areas of that football team, and it wasn’t necessarily like, like you’re thinking it’s the 2000 ravens or anything like that, but you look at how consistent they were this past year. Okay, did they get the have they gotten the acclaim this year? Of say, Denver, no or Houston, no, but go, look at their stats. They were top 10 in basically everything. I’m not just saying total defense, not just saying scoring defense, not just saying run defense, pass defense, but third down defense, red zone defense, if you’re an analytics nerd like me, EPA, DVO, a they were top 10 in everything, like just rock solid, Good to Great in everything. And to your point, you look at that defensive roster, and it’s not as though they had all pros at every single position, or they spent a ton of money at every single position. So I think you’re looking at that, you know, that element of Jesse mentor coming in that you’re excited about, one thing I wanted to point out to you. And as we, you know, we did our opening segment on this, you know, you kind of left, left off with the question of, what’s going to change here? What’s going to be different here? And, you know, we obviously got into the fact that Jesse mentors were. For both horribles. And of course, I pointed out to you that just because you work for someone doesn’t mean you’re exactly like that. We use our working relationship as an example of that, as far as personalities and differences and all that. And that’s not, you know, it’s not a good or bad thing, it’s

Nestor Aparicio  10:14

just how it is. But right now, but I’m eating a cookie. Thank you, but I look like I got cocaine on my face. I assure you, it’s powdered sugar.

Luke Jones  10:25

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But I heard Kyle van Noy say something interesting recently, and it’s so funny, because as we get older, we tend to in life, I’m not even talking just football or sports, but in life, we tend to talk down about younger generations, but Kyle van Noy, who’s in his mid 30s, made the interesting observation that he’s found as he’s gotten older and he’s seen young players come into the league, that there’s been a growing trend of guys that are way more about the why and the how, rather than you know, you’ve given passion speeches, and I don’t even think like he was saying this as a shot at John horrible. I think it was just the way that you’d think about how how you used to perceive a head coach compared to what you’re seeing now.

Nestor Aparicio  11:12

Well, that video of hardball dancing like the oldest white guy ever in the locker room and zay flowers and like that. That’s all the big trust, and that’s all the rah, rah rah, shish pub, ah, I’m your daddy. I’m your big bro. We’re family. We’re family. Family. I don’t know these guys know from family when they’ve been from Texas Tech to Florida to Georgia, because they got paid another 20 grand to go play their freshman year, one place their sophomore year, another place for a bunch of whores who wind up being Tommy Tuberville, you know what I mean, like, or what’s the clown that just took the job at LSU? Like, you know, they just wind up on this pathway of, I’m a businessman, you know, Dion, I’m a businessman, and I don’t know that they need all of that collegiate rah rah shit. You know what? I mean? They just, just pay me I, I mean, I would see it’s different. And then then it was with Tony Sarah gooso, and with the guys that I’m buddying around with this week for Super Bowl 35 they had a different mindset than zay flowers. I did this.

Luke Jones  12:19

Did might have, they might have, but I would say, look, there’s still a time and a place for that. And you know, one thing we’ll get into with Jesse Minter that, you know, one of my questions from afar, from him was not unique from Mike McDaniel. Mike McDonald was, how do you command a room? How do you communicate? Are you in charge, right? Are you in charge? Are you comfortable being in charge? Whereas, you know, you kind of, you know, what few memories I had of Jesse Minter, like I said, very limited. You know, he was very low on the totem pole when he was in Baltimore, at least from a front facing standpoint, right? But that was a question, because he was on the quieter side. And Mike McDonald was the same way. You know, when Mike McDonald first started having a once or twice a year press conference, when he was the Ravens linebackers coach, you know, and we’re talking way back at this point in time, you know, he was never someone where you came away from it like, oh my gosh, that guy’s 1,000% going to be a head coach one day. You thought he was smart. You could tell

Nestor Aparicio  13:22

that I learned about this 30 years ago when I met Marvin Lewis and Jim Schwartz, and they’re running me around and introducing me to young coaches and young Scout Eric Decosta, smart people, really smart people

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Luke Jones  13:33

all, no doubt. But I think there’s that part of it, but there’s also the emotional intelligence part, and how do you connect with players? So that rah, rah stuff, there’s still place for it. Like this is not at all saying that players don’t need that, but I think there’s also something to be said than when things aren’t going well or you have to make adjustments. What are you bringing to the table?

Nestor Aparicio  14:02

You’re gonna win the game. Marvin, for me, was it’s going to be the play. It’s not going to be our feeling somebody said on the radio about you or what the fans are yelling. It’s going to be the execution. It’s going to be alignment, assignment and technique, and that’s it. It’s nothing else. And can you get there, and do you know you’re you know where you’re supposed to be, and can you make the play when you get there? And and that’s what more, and that’s what it’s not about your girlfriend, it’s not about problems at home. It’s not about any of that you know like so as much as we talk about all of that in that moment, in that six seconds in the play, knowing all of that and working as a unit, that’s where you try to reign it all in but that humanity gets in the way. Feelings, I mean, we talk a lot about that, injuries get in the way. You know, a lot of that confusion gets in the way, right?

Luke Jones  14:49

Yeah, but I’ll give you an example that many Ravens fans maybe have forgotten about because it’s hard to believe it’s been 20 years. But what did Brian Billick do in the midst of the two. 1006 season, he took over the offense, right? Because they were having an issue, and you had an offensive minded head coach who was able to do that. Now it didn’t result in the Ravens winning the Super Bowl, and that wasn’t a long term solution, per se, but it helped. It helped in the moment, and it led to the ravens, at that point in time, having the best regular season in their history, win loss wise. So fast forward to today. You know, Kyle van Noy was making the point that players today really want to be coached from an X’s and O’s standpoint more than ever. And it’s not to say that rah rah is wrong or that there’s not the emotional intelligence part. I mean, all you’ve heard from former players is how much they love Jesse Minter, I mean, I think Derwin James called him an alpha and just guys just talking about he he’s the total package. Eric Weddle, who is someone that I have a great respect for, for his time in Baltimore, just knowing how much he knows football. The idea that he knows football, he knows what makes a good coach. He knows what’s going to make you successful. He flat out, said point blank that the ravens are that Minter is going to be to the Ravens what McDonald is in Seattle right now. So, so I thought that was interesting, but it comes down to this. And, you know, I used the Billick example in 2006 I mean Kent, when things start to go awry. And you mentioned, you know, the example of har ball dancing in the locker room like everyone’s happy and excited, and kumbaya when you’re winning, right? But we also know that it’s not always going to go that way. You’re going to have times where things get rough. 2025 was a perfect example of that, how much wherewithal. And look, when I say this, it doesn’t mean John Harbaugh knows doesn’t know football. John Harbaugh knows more football in his pinky nail than you and I will ever know. But at that level, when the bullets are flying and when things are going rough, your defense is awful, your offense is maddening in terms of its inconsistency. As 2025 was the case. What are you bringing to the table as a head coach to help fix that? And I don’t think that’s I don’t necessarily perceive that as being our ball’s fatal flaw. I think a lot of this was just the build up of multiple years of frustration and 18 years and shelf life and the idea and opportunity for a new voice and and Steve bashati made his decision, but I think in this case, now with Jesse Minter, you are bringing someone in who has the respect of players at previous stops, has familiarity with this organization. You know one thing that I didn’t necessarily emphasize a whole lot in our first conversation. But if you recall when Dean Pease retired at the first time, before he came out of retirement elsewhere, but when he retired as Raven’s defensive coordinator, they promoted wink Martindale, but there was a big emphasis over the course of that offseason to basically revamp and rebuild their defensive system. A one perception of Dean peas is defense, defensive, defensive system at that point in time, the Raven system in 2017 was that it was complicated. And I think what they wanted to do was to continue to have it look complicated to the opposition and make it difficult to decipher and difficult to play against, however, to make it easier to teach internally and to make it easier for their players to learn the system. So they went to work. And you want to know who to two of the biggest names that were involved in doing that behind the scenes. It was Mike McDonald and Jesse Minter. So it speaks to even at that point in time when he was not one of their highest profile assistants, nor was Mike McDonald in 2017 2018 but it speaks to what kind of football intelligence those two have. And, you know,

Nestor Aparicio  18:55

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I coach’s kid, we haven’t said that in the second Exactly, exactly. I mean, like and his dad is the one that gave John Harbaugh and Rex Ryan a hand up in life. I don’t

Luke Jones  19:04

know if you had, I don’t know if you had a chance to see and I understand it’s behind a paywall, but there, I assume it was a chargers writer, because this was written last, last season. I think it was written during training camp or early September, something like that. They did a profile on Jesse Minter. It is amazing. And look, I don’t want to inflate this, because this tends to be the case with football coaches. The networking is incredible. The people you meet along the way is incredible. It’s very much a small world kind of mindset, but the amount of networking and people that he encountered along the way, like, for example, Mike Tomlin and him are close. Tomlin was on, I forget which staff it was at one point in time. Knew Jesse Minter as a kid, and has kept tabs on him and would ask him how things were doing, whether he’s talking about, like, you know, his high school team, college team, yeah, all that kind of stuff. So. So, so that just speaks to, okay, yes, he worked for John Harbaugh, and yes, he worked for Jim Harbaugh, but you’re also talking about someone who worked through, you know, worked in college. His father was a coach, was at some different places, and, you know, just really has a football resume for a 42 year old who’s never been a head coach that still speaks to

Nestor Aparicio  20:24

him and was defensive backs coach at Cincinnati. Yes, that’s what it was. 99 and 2000 Yeah, yes. Right before we went to Tampa’s last college sports was in Cincinnati. Yeah.

Luke Jones  20:34

So he knew a young Jesse mentor, and took a liking to him to the point where I think the chargers and Steelers played

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Nestor Aparicio  20:41

what this was. He’s your age. He would have been 16 years old. He’s literally Jesse Minter is your age. So, so, but, but the point

Luke Jones  20:49

with that is, I mean, he’s clearly someone that, even at a young age, he made an impression on people, right? I mean, even if I’m not saying Mike Tomlin identified him in his youth as, oh, man, you’re going to be an NFL head coach one day. But clearly, he was a son of a ball coach and had an interest in it, you know, originally was was just going to coach in college, and then was a player as a 16 year old played ball. Yeah, originally he was going to coach in college, you know, for his dad, and then he had a change of heart that he wanted to play still, so he ended up playing some college ball. And, right, so, but, you know, he was at Notre Dame, he was at Cincinnati. He was at Indiana State, Georgia State, comes to the Ravens in an entry level kind of position, you know, not, not different from Mike McDonald.

Nestor Aparicio  21:35

This is har ball getting a call from Rick mintern saying, my kid needs a game. Exactly, you know, let me tell you, that’s it. I mean, I mean, and that, and that’s what led him to getting this gig this week, that you’re going to go out to this press conference and I’m going to

Luke Jones  21:47

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watch on the video, yeah, so, I mean, it’s, but there’s, there’s a pedigree there that, look, it’s not a pedigree in terms of look point blank. Do I know for a fact that Jesse mentor is going to be a great head coach? No. I mean, it’s very

Nestor Aparicio  22:03

if I like the hiring, I’m like, they like the hiring, and they sure want to change much. And I guess, you know, at the end, we haven’t even discussed that, but Luke Jones is serious, but let’s take a quick break, and we’ll come back in and we’ll, we’ll talk more about this, because I know you wanted to take a deeper dive into what’s really going to change, right? I mean, it’s gonna really be the question line next week, right?

Luke Jones  22:22

Yeah, I mean, but I mean, I, I’ll kind of go back to what I said before. I don’t think the ravens are looking to, we’re ever looking to turn the organization upside down. Fair enough, you know. So what can you tweak? What can you change? What can you perfect? I mean, first on the list in terms of what Jesse Minter, X’s and O’s wise will bring is to improve the defense. But the next question, and that’s where maybe we’ll dive into it a little more, because this will be wildly important. Who is his offensive coordinator going to be? Who is going to be on his staff? Who might he hire as an experienced voice in the room? Because he is a first time head coach. Ala, think of, I don’t know, Cam Cameron coming in when John Harbaugh became the head coach, and what that meant for John Harbaugh in that way. So I think those are the fascinating questions that come next, and we could talk about that. Luke Jones is here.

Nestor Aparicio  23:15

He’s Baltimore, Luke, we have a new head coach. We have a storm coming. We have a cup of Super Bowl coming. Brought to you by the Maryland lottery. I’ll have candy cane cash scratch offs to give away our friends at GBMC, also putting us out on the road. The schedule is set. We’re going to be at faintlys on Monday. We’ve moved Tuesday from State Fair all the way across the street to El Guapo. We’re going to be over at El Guapa, where they were vandalized a couple of weeks ago. And you know what? It’s a cup of soup or bowl. And Luke, you don’t know this, but the pole over at, oh my god, El Guapo, so I’m going to have serious, serious chicken tortilla soup on Tuesday, Wednesday, we’re going to be at Koco’s in lauraville. Thursday, we’re going to be at Pizza John’s in Essex. I’m really looking forward to that. Some of my childhood friends are coming by for that one, so that’s going to be great, too. And then on Friday, we’re going to wrap things up Super Bowl week for a cup of soup or bowl for the Maryland Food Bank at Costas in Timonium. Luke’s here, I’m here. We’re going to talk about Jesse Minter, Rick Minter, minting a new Raven’s way in Owings Mills. We are W, N, S, T, am 1570 Towson, Baltimore. We never stopped talking Baltimore positive. We’re.