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It’s always a long offseason when you drop a tough playoff game but this one might be different. Luke Jones and Nestor Aparicio discuss the Baltimore Ravens’ disappointing loss to the Buffalo Bills, highlighting key moments such as Lamar Jackson’s two turnovers in the first half and Mark Andrews’ crucial drop in the fourth quarter.

Luke Jones and Nestor Aparicio discuss the Baltimore Ravens’ disappointing loss to the Buffalo Bills, highlighting key moments such as Lamar Jackson’s two turnovers in the first half and Mark Andrews’ crucial drop in the fourth quarter. They reflect on the Ravens’ regular-season success compared to their postseason struggles, noting the team’s inability to perform consistently in January. The conversation also touches on the potential impact of the Washington Commanders’ playoff run on local fan interest and the broader implications for the NFL. Both analysts express frustration with the Ravens’ inability to capitalize on their regular-season dominance and speculate on off-season changes and future prospects.

SUMMARY KEYWORDS

Ravens loss, Buffalo Bills, Mark Andrews, Lamar Jackson, playoff struggles, media accountability, defense performance, game-winning drop, offseason plans, Super Bowl hopes, Washington Commanders, rookie quarterback, regular season success, postseason challenges, future outlook

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Nestor Aparicio, Luke Jones

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Nestor Aparicio  00:01

Welcome home. We are W, N, S T, am 1570 Towson, Baltimore. We are Baltimore. Positive. It’s going to be tough to be positive in this one. Ravens eliminated on Sunday night by the Buffalo Bills. Luke Jones is here joining us. We’re going to be doing a cup of soup or bowl all the brought to you by the Maryland lottery. I will not have Raven scratch offs to give away. The season is over. There will be six lucky winners, and we’ll talk to John Martin and Seth Elkin about that a little later on this week, I will be writing about Mark Andrews hiding from the media and how that’s cool or not cool in Buffalo in a general sense. We’re going to talk a lot about the off season and about cleaning out lockers and about who goes where and why, and Todd monkin And who’s getting a job. And Todd monkin And Ben Johnson are now readily available, and suddenly Cliff Kingsbury has worked to do this week. So it is a weird Final Four to see Philadelphia and Washington together. You know, I didn’t even know that was possible, like, I forgot Washington could compete like this. And now we’re going to sit here and suck our violet thumbs for another 51 weeks, 53 weeks, whatever long it’s going to take to find out that they’re not going to the Super Bowl next year, because Luke, they’re not going to the Super Bowl this year, and you’re not going to Super Bowl this year. I’m not. I’ve made all these plans to go to New Orleans. I had the Natchez Rename. They were going to call it the nasty Natchez. We were going to go out on the boat. We were going to do it all you and I, like, I had to taste a barbecue on my tongue after Kansas City one on Saturday. Let’s go through the game. I mean, we’re going to have plenty to go through with Mark Andrews hiding in the, you know, from what’s left of the media, sure, Jameson had really tough questions after he apologized for asking them. I don’t know what to make of this, other than the national media will pile on. There’ll be plenty of time for that. There’ll be an honor session down in New Orleans. Will Lamar will get his third trophy or not, or not. It won’t matter. It doesn’t matter. Doesn’t matter to him, I don’t think certainly doesn’t matter. Today, they came up small on the biggest stage, and champions don’t do that.

Luke Jones  02:14

Yeah. I mean, what do you want me to say is it’s absolutely the truth. And I think the difference between this game and some of their previous playoff losses where, you know, they, they wouldn’t move the ball. Well, you know, there were games where Lamar just didn’t play well, really, from beginning to end. I mean, this, this wasn’t that, in the sense that they moved the ball and, you know, they they scored points, and they were good on third down, and they were two, two of three inside the red zone, although certainly being goal to go from from the two and coming away with a field goal hurt. You know, the play calling this wasn’t refusing to run the ball like last year. And you know, you can, you can point to a play here or there, right? But I thought, to their credit, Buffalo did, came out and did a good job against Derrick Henry in the first half, right? I mean, they especially those first couple drives. Even though the Ravens marched down the field on their opening drive, they didn’t do anything on first down. I mean, Buffalo stopped the Ravens on first down on that first drive, it was the Ravens converting on third down and making plays otherwise, you know, I mean, they buffalo clearly sold out to sell the or stopped Derek Henry early on. I think they played much more man coverage and blitzed more than certainly they did back in week four. I mean, that really went against tendency as far as that defense. But, you know, the Ravens scored points in the second half. Lamar had an excellent second half. And, you know, but too many, I

Nestor Aparicio  03:49

felt like they fell into the groove of running the ball in the second half and into the cold and had shaken off the chill of the mistakes earlier in the game. And here came the rally right. The defense rallied to force the field goal, right? I mean, like, because it looked like the bills were going in. It looked like the bills were going into me, they’re at home. They’re running downhill. They got Josh Allen, and they inexplicably threw the ball right at one point, right? So, like, I when you know you want to run the ball there, right? Like, run it, run it, run it, run it. I don’t know. The bills got away with it. They won. They got away with it. Their defense got backed up on a two point conversion. Had a play Breakdown. Let a three time pro bowler go wide open, to the sticks, let Lamar Get out, get open. Couldn’t get enough pressure on him. High ball game, right? I mean, let’s not praise the bills in the aftermath of this, right? Like they allowed the Ravens. They allowed the Ravens in the game in No, I’m just saying, like, right, well, didn’t take it to the Ravens. You. Ravens kicked the ball around. They threw the ball around like they they gave the game away in the end, literally. And Tucker didn’t even have to miss a kick. Yeah. I

Luke Jones  05:09

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mean, look, Buffalo played a cleaner football game, though. I mean, not perfect, right? And as I said, I kind of, yeah, right, right. I mean, that’s and buffalo is good. I mean, buffalo, they scored points in the first half. And it wasn’t all on the defense, obviously, because of the long fumble return. But, I mean, let’s face it, that call on on tredavius White, that pi call on 35,000 that was a bad call. You know that? That was tough. I mean, but things like that are going to happen over the course of 60 minutes, right? And, you know, but the defense held buffalo to six points in the second half. And you know, to your point, they were down at the goal line. And, I mean, the game could have been over there, and they stopped Josh Allen on third down. But I thought it was a curious play call, you know, I thought it was a situation where, why wouldn’t you just, you know, instead of getting cute, and, you know, with your formation and everything, just have your 250 pound Ben Roethlisberger like quarterback, just take the snap and barrel ahead, as he’s done all year long for them. But, you know, I mean, again, we we talk about everything that happened over the course of 60 minutes, and it comes down to mark Andrews has to catch the ball. You know, we’re going to sound like a broken record all off season. About this. We’re going to talk about it in the regular season. We’re going to talk about it next January. You’ve got to catch the ball in that spot. It’s that simple. And you can you have to show up

Nestor Aparicio  06:33

with your locker afterward when line up to sign auto pay you for your autograph, and you’ve made 10s of millions of dollars. You’re a pro bowler, you’re one of the faces you want to come out and be honored as the ring of like all of that, you can’t hide from Jameson Hensley and Jeff. Sorry, back on a 10 degree night when the seasons you can’t, you can’t hide. I that bad enough that I’ve been thrown out, or I would have been there, right? But this is the reason you’re there on behalf of the fans, is to answer questions and to be accountable, integrity, accountability, humility, gratitude, boom.

Luke Jones  07:14

Well, I’ll go back to what I said in a previous segment. My rule of thumb is, if your teammates are going to be asked about you after the game then, but because, even if he talks, other guys are gonna be asked about I mean, it’s, you know, it was the game ending play right there. The rule of thumb for me is, if your teammates are gonna be asked about you, you need to be available to the media. Then, right? Don’t make your teammates have to talk for you alone anyway. But it just, you know, again, everything that happened in that game up until that point, and it’s a 60 minute ball game, and Lamar took accountability for his two turnovers in the first half. I mean, Lamar is two turnovers in the first half. It’s a big reason why they were down 11 points, right? And I get it, the interception buffalo did not score, but change the field position. And when you lose possession of the football, that means you can’t score any points on that possession. So it it costs you, regardless of whether you know the opponent, comes right back and scores off of that turnover. So you know, they needed a better Lamar Jackson in the first half. They got a great Lamar Jackson in the second half. Mark Andrews didn’t make amends, right? I mean, Mark Andrews chance to make amends may never come in this spot again. Who knows? You know? I mean, I think there’s probably an interesting conversation to be had there, as Isaiah likely is entering the final year of his rookie contract. But we’ll, we’ll have plenty of time to talk about, well, he caught the big one. Yeah, exactly. But, you know, so, so there’s a conversation for that, and we’ll get to that. But you know, it just comes down to it. Your stars need to be stars in the biggest moment. And you know, it wasn’t a perfect game for Lamar Jackson. And I’m sure that the National talking heads will, you know, they’ll talk about that all off season. They’ll talk about that all next regular season. They’ll talk about that as he is accepting his third MVP award in a couple weeks. But you think he’s going to win, by the way, absolutely go, go look at the generally speaking, unless

Nestor Aparicio  09:10

so the Josh Allen thing was a media thing made up by whomever, whoever the bar stool guys are, whatever like that was really the way this was going to get voted when it came down to it. I

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Luke Jones  09:20

mean, I not necessarily, because I think in early December, when you’re talking about, like when the Ravens lost to the Eagles and went into the BI week 10 days, I think, I think Josh Allen was, was that guy at that point and then, but you looked at the final three or four games, you know, Josh Allen didn’t have great statistical performances, cut the bills kind of had that weird win against the Patriots, where they were sleep walking through the first two and a half quarter body

Nestor Aparicio  09:46

of work is 41 and four and 900 yards, even though the season’s over at this point. But,

Luke Jones  09:51

but the big but the big tell is, and you know, you look at the AP all pro voting, Lamar was first team. Josh Allen was. Second Team, unless the AP voters are going to throw a big curve ball and name saquon Barkley MVP, which I don’t think is going to happen. It’s Lamar, and it should be Lamar. Lamar is the best player in football in the regular season, as he has been for six years now. Right? I mean, Patrick mahomes in the regular season, has a couple MVPs, but January has been a different story. January has been a different story for this amazing

Nestor Aparicio  10:26

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sport, right in that way that, like everybody just pisses on the homes. He’s going to be playing at home this week. He’s going to be in the game in the fourth quarter, and and they have a chance to go to another Super Bowl, and they’ve only really lost once all year. And

Luke Jones  10:41

then it’s held home, right? Because they don’t blow anyone out four

Nestor Aparicio  10:45

or five, six years into it too. You know, it becomes boring when, I mean, Steph Curry got boring until they changed their one of those pajamas that the warriors were but, you know, became boring until, Oh, it’s over. Boom, it’s over. You know, Tom Brady, you’re over. You know, like we’re in the middle of the mahomes thing. It’s not over. We’re in the middle of the Lamar thing. And it hasn’t pissed a drop.

Luke Jones  11:12

Seriously, it’s it’s frustrating, as can be, because you see how great of a player he is. You see how great this football team has been in the regular season. I think I saw the stat. I can’t remember the exact wording of it, but in terms of the number of wins they’ve had over the last six years, I think the only team that has eclipsed them is, I want to say it was the Colts. From what was it? 99 through oh five. I think it was. And, I mean, it’s the same story. I mean, Lamar is, you know, I say this as both frustrating, but also as a silver lining to remind that he still has a lot of football to play again, assuming relatively good health, in the way that anyone needs that to have a long career. You know, he’s kind of at the same point. Peyton Manning was in 2005 and it was the same deal. The Colts were this great team in the regular season, even some years where they were an absolute Juggernaut, and they’d be sitting at home for the Super Bowl and Tom Brady, or, you know, in the case of oh five, it was Roethlisberger and the Steelers as a wild card team, beating, beating them. And, you know, you just look at it and you just say, what it’s got to give here, you know, what, what do we need to do here to break through? And, you know, I think it’s, it really is as frustrating and as simple as you just got to get back to get back on the grind next year. I mean, it’s, you know, the team’s going to look different. All that, we’ll get into that. Well, plenty of time to talk about the off season, but you just look at this thing and you know, what’s it going to take? They’ve been the number one seed, you know, they they’ve now been the number three seed and and tried to go on the road, and as much as the two turnovers in the first half hurt and Lamar wasn’t as good in the first half. He was really good in the second half. Defense wasn’t as good in the first half. The defense was really good in the second half. I mean, six points, you’re not going to shut out the bills, so you know. And again, it comes back to one of your multi Time Pro Bowl, future Ring of Honor stars of your team choked in the fourth quarter. I mean, let’s call it what it is. Mark Andrews choked. I mean, if there’s a definition for choke, that was, that was choke. I And I think that term gets thrown around too liberally in the context of when a team just loses. But I mean, I’ll give, I’ll give Teron Johnson some credit or Terrell Bernard, sorry, who on the force fumble? I mean, he made a great play, but you can’t lose that football there. I mean, you can’t fumble the ball there. You’re at a point where you’re you’re in the bills territory, and you’re knocking on field goal range at the very least, you know, with just under nine minutes to go and but, I mean, the two point drop that was completely unforced, right? I mean, just catch the ball, the more through a pillow, soft pass that a high school kid would be expected to catch. There’s no one around them. I get it. It’s, you know, it’s a slick field and the elements, but catch the ball. Hit you right in the belly. Catch it. You know, we’re going to sound like a broken record. I mean, people are going to get there, which

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Nestor Aparicio  14:23

is interesting, because even then they were going to give the bills a chance to get back down. Sure. I mean, the drama of it would have been, who knows, rook one Smith pops the ball out, Tucker hits a 50 yard field goal in the Ravens win. I mean, that like or

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the bills, the bills get stopped. You play for overtime. You win the coin the coin toss, and Derrick Henry and Justice Hill and Lamar run 10 times for 870, yards and a touchdown. Game over buffalo doesn’t even touch the ball if you get a stop at the end of regular but you know, you don’t know, but you’d at least like to have the chance, right? You’d at least like to I the game. Up there and at least play it out. I mean, it’s, it’s excruciating. It really is. I mean,

Luke Jones  15:08

you can’t, I made, I made the point. You know, we brought up Billy Cundiff and Lee Evans in our previous discussion. That was the championship game. So I understand, you know, the stakes were higher there. But, you know, Lee Evans, go look at how many passes Lee Evans caught all year. I mean, he barely played. He was hurt most of the year and wasn’t very good. Billy Cundiff was kind of banged up at the end of the year. I could get a cap issue or something like that off the top of my head, and had kind of struggled. And you’ve pointed out, you know, the clock management there. I mean, he still needs to make that kick. But, you know, those are bit players. This, this is a, this has been a foundation player for you the last six years, you know. And you know, if Lamar throws a pick, or Andrews doesn’t catch a 5050, ball, that kind of gets popped up in the air and picked off, or something like that. You know, that’s that. That’s a different category. Even the fumble, as I said, Terrell Bernard makes it, stripped him, you know, made it, made a good play. At least acknowledge the defensive player make having a part in that, even if you got to protect the football there. But the drop, I mean, doesn’t get any, doesn’t get any worse than that in terms of just unforced. I mean, you just got to catch it. It’s no one in his line of vision. No one tipped the ball. He wasn’t hit by anyone. Catch the ball. And we’re to your point, maybe we are talking about Josh Allen leading the bills down the field in the last minute, 33 to, you know, to win the game. Or maybe we are talking about the bills winning it in overtime. Or, who knows, Justin Tucker might have had a chance to make a kick in overtime, and he misses it, and we’re talking about that. I mean, you know, not there so many things could have happened from that point, but it’s over right there. I mean, short of recovering an onside kick, it’s over at that moment in time. And it’s just, it’s excruciating. It’s such a difficult way to have your season end and

Nestor Aparicio  17:02

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well, lot of things went into this. Yeah. Luke Jones is here Baltimore, Luke, we’re going to be out on the internet at 1570 all week, and we were planning on going to Kansas City. I had made New Orleans plans. We’re doing a couple of Super Bowl beginning two weeks from now. Brought to you by the Maryland lottery. We’re going to be feeding local people doing important work here that touchdown right before halftime. Um, you talk about wind out of the sails a little bit and allowing that to happen. Um, that to me, and then the fact that they answered in the third quarter by playing defense, you know, getting back in the game. But it it felt like they were playing uphill the whole game, and when Lamar fades right to find Mark Andrews in the end zone with a minute left to go and and it’s going to all get level set, all the turnovers, the mistakes, all of that was going to get level set. It is. It is telling. And most people thought like, well, the Ravens could afford mistakes and could get back into the game. Because people thought the Ravens were the better team all along the way. People spoke about them as a complete unit. The goat in Justin Tucker in the end, was going to come through for them in the end, you know, har ball, who’s going to the Hall of everything, according to Tony Romo, they just had all of this pedigree and everything that went wrong at the end of the evening. Pillow, soft throw, as you said, I’m going to steal that when I write my letter to mark Andrews about accountability and to who, who much is given, much is expected. They they they almost level. Set, everything like really, right? All the mistakes of the whole season would have been level. Set, all the penalties, all the everything, all you just catch the ball and it’s an even season. With a minute left to go, we send our defense out and play for a chance to go to Kansas City. That’s how close it was, because they didn’t play a great game. You know, we could sit here and talk about Mark Andrews and blame it all on him and play like all of that, but the Lamar pick, the Lamar fumble, the Andrews drop, just in general panel, a couple penalties that could have gone either way. In some cases it wasn’t their finest hour, but they gave themselves a chance to win. You know, in the end, they did overcome all of the problems of the year, the loss to the raiders and the browns, yeah. So what? We’re in Buffalo. It’s a minute left, and we’re tied. You know what? I mean, they had a chance to, like, literally fix everything in the end, even their mistakes in the first half and being down 2110, at halftime, I find it to be unfortunate for them, because it was sitting there the season was sitting there for them, this isn’t far fetched, and. Is going to be one of those ones that if John Harbaugh still spoke to me, and I was real media member, he gave me the warm fuzzy in Indianapolis five weeks from now, we’re out there scouting their 27th draft pick, or whatever it’s going to be, wherever they’re picking, um, that he would say, I’m never going to get over this one. Remember that when he came over after the kind of thing, I’m never going to get over this one. I don’t know. It was sitting there. It really was. And it’s this hard to do. It’s hard to get into the division game. Even on the road, be a three seed, win your division, because the Bengals are going to come next year. Steelers are going to do something I don’t, you know, I don’t take them seriously at this point, but seriously enough that they compete in a regular season. I’ll tell you that much they could. They can wreck you. Um, but that being said, they’re the class of the division. They’re expected to go into this off season and make all the right moves and the death moves and all of that. Um, even so far as to take Deontay Johnson trying to steal, steal picks and do whatever they’re doing. They’re doing it better than anybody, and they’re still the third best team in their own conference. Yeah.

Luke Jones  21:08

I mean, I kind of, I said it in jest, but I meant it to a point. I said, Whoever wins this game goes to Kansas City, and the loser is relegated to headed a kids table in the AFC. I mean, that’s, you know, last year,

Nestor Aparicio  21:24

no better than San Diego. Well, you know what? I mean,

Luke Jones  21:28

last year, Buffalo was in that spot after they lost to Kansas City at home. And, I mean, it’s just, and they made

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Nestor Aparicio  21:34

hella changes, right? Oh yeah, they didn’t like this, like, and I had this, a lot

Luke Jones  21:40

of it was their caps. A lot of a lot of it was their cap situation. I mean, look, changes, changes are going to happen. I mean, you know, and monk, it’s going to be a coach somewhere, but he ended a week or No, he’s got a chance. I mean, I don’t, I don’t know that for sure. I still, well, somebody comforts him. He’ll be their coach by Tuesday, right? If he’s their guy, but, but my point is, with these. I mean, you look at some of these things. I mean, the Jets, I think, have interviewed everyone to be interviewed in the NFL. It’s crazy, right? I mean, every day it’s like, Oh, they’ve interviewed so and so anyway, we’ll see how that plays out. But it that’s a distinct possibility. There’s no question, you know, but Derek Henry’s a year older. What’s going to happen with Ronnie Stanley? You know? What’s going to you know, Kyle van Noy. I mean, you don’t have, yeah, the window is wide open. As long as number eight is healthy, the window is wide open, right? You have a chance that’s been established in the regular season. But you know, to go back to what you said. I mean, you think about where this team has been, 2019 the playoff game, the Titans took it to him. Right? They had early mistakes. Titans took advantage. Derek Henry ran for 200 yards against them. We failed on fourth down too. That is a turnover, but my point is, the Titans ultimately blew them out right? 2020 think about how they lost in Buffalo. It was the end of the third quarter. Teron Johnson, 102 yard interception return for a touchdown. 22 it wasn’t Lamar, and we know that the Ravens weren’t long for the postseason that year. Tyler Huntley at the goal line, right? I mean, think about that. They were getting ready to tie the game in Cincinnati, and Tyler Huntley, for whatever reason, tries to hurdle when he was supposed to go low and fumble return for a touchdown. You lose that game last year, even though it wouldn’t have tied the game, they were down 10. Zay flowers, you know, to start the fourth quarter if he goes into the end zone there, who knows what happens at that point, right? I mean, not saying Kansas City wouldn’t still win, but you’d have a much better chance if you score a touchdown there, and then you would have what happens with Mark Andrews. I mean, it’s just, it’s not just that they lose in the postseason. I mean, you know, since the the Titans loss in 19 these have been excruciating. You know, just hold your head shake, you know, cover your eyes like shrieking in horror at how they’ve lost these games. It’s just, it takes a lot out of you. I think it really does. I mean, the mental baggage that not just Lamar Jackson but this entire football team carries around now in terms of what’s happened in January and knowing how good they’ve been in the regular season and being the number one seed or winning a playoff game and going to Buffalo or, I mean, it’s just, it’s a lot, and that’s not to say they won’t overcome it at some point. If you’re going to ask me, yes or no, do I do I believe Lamar Jackson is going to win a Super Bowl at some point, I’m still going to say yes, because I, I don’t think Kansas City is going to win 10 Super Bowls in a row, right? I mean, not even Brady won that frequently, but buffalo can go out and win this but that’s the thing, right? You have buffalo, you know, give me the Washington

Nestor Aparicio  24:44

commanders here for all I know, they can go to Philly and win on Sunday. They can,

Luke Jones  24:49

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yeah, I mean, man, that, that kid, he’s already the best quarterback in the NFC. I absolutely believe that he’s already the best in the NFC. Oh, he

Nestor Aparicio  24:56

has a chance to go out this week and and be. To contemporary and go to the Super Bowl, but, but there you go, and look, I’m not boy for this franchise in this state teetering. And we talk about empty seats, and we talk about Chad Steele and the way the team is run, and the way the team has been run through the with this arrogance the last 15 years of har ball, all of a sudden, if the commanders were to go to the Super Bowl next week, I saw what it did in Cincinnati. It just completely changes the money, the complexion of all of it them trying to get a stadium down there, all of this where Steve didn’t have to worry about that termite down there doing anything now, all of a sudden, they could be the Yankees of the Yankees Mets relationship in regard to fan base money, not that it matters so much on the field, but we live here. I don’t want to see a burgundy and gold revolution. You know what I mean? Yeah. I mean, I wouldn’t be a good time for that. And I know we have Lamar, and I’ll give you that. But I’m teaching 26 years. They’ve never had a prayer. They’ve always been like the Orioles. They were just there, awful. Yeah, they were like the browns. They were just awful. And now all of a sudden, they’re a heartbeat away from a Super Bowl, and they have a kid that you think’s the best quarterback in the other league. I’m just saying, dude, the next five to seven to eight years, the Washington commanders are going to Command some fan base, some some interest. It’s 30 miles away. As much as I hate it, and I don’t you know if this is we’ll talk about it. They might as well be in freaking Mars. They might as well play in Mexico City or Monterey, because of how we feel about them, right? But they’re right there, and that is, it’s something to behold that they are playing, that they have arisen into this place in our state, that they’re playing for a Super Bowl this week. That’s because we’re not going to talk much about it this week, so I’ll just throw it in at you. Yeah, well, and let’s

Luke Jones  27:01

be clear, what we’re talking about here is not people trading in their purple for burgundy and gold, but you’re trying to grow a brand, right? And you have young people, you have kids, you have teenagers, and Lara Jackson is still one of the most marketable, recognizable names in the NFL in terms of just who he is as a player, he’s he’s in that, that small group, and the same thing said about LeBron, right? We don’t say Lebron James. We say LeBron Lamar is the same way most players we refer to as by their last name. You know, we don’t say mark for Mark Andrews. We don’t say Marlon for Marlon upper like we refer to players as their last name. Lamar is one of those first name recognizable players, right? I mean, you just say Lamar, and everyone knows who you’re. Everyone knows who you’re talking about, Mr. Jackson, if you know. So I so, you know the Yankees bets thing, you know. And I wasn’t implying that you were suggesting that it would go to that extreme. But the the idea that Washington, after so many years of just being pathetic, well,

Nestor Aparicio  28:00

there’s a rules to go now, right? I

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Luke Jones  28:03

mean, it’s, but it’s just one of those, you know, it’s also just frustrating, from a standpoint of, you know, he’s a rookie, and look where they are, right? I mean, it’s like, I mean, it’s like, Joe Flacco in 2008 right? Only the difference here is, go back, go look in Joe at Joe in 2008 and that postseason run, you know, he played fairly well against Tennessee. He didn’t play at a very high level. Roethlisberger did it early. Moreno did early, right? But Daniels is, you know, he’s playing really well. And again, I’m not, I don’t want to even get into Lamar versus Jaden Daniels as players, Lamar is way better than Jaden Daniels right now, but you look at what Jaden Daniels has done as a rookie compared to any rookie in the history of the NFL at the quarterback position? I mean, my goodness, he’s been a phenom. You know, it hasn’t just been Oh, he’s got a great defense or Oh, he’s got a great running game, and he’s kind of along for the ride, which was kind of the case for Joe in oh eight and Mark Sanchez in oh nine. And you know, when you think of rookie quarterbacks, but Jaden Daniels has been the MVP of that team by a long shot. Jaden Daniels, in hindsight, probably should have gotten more MVP talk, just in terms of what he’s meant for his team, literally talking about most valuable we get to be the Rookie of the Year. Oh yeah, and he will be, but, but yeah, you look at that, and it’s just if they get to the Super Bowl, putting aside the, you know what it means for fans and the local, you know, just recruitment.

Nestor Aparicio  29:27

I can’t put that aside, but I’ll let No,

Luke Jones  29:30

I’m saying put it aside for a moment. Nestor, you know, I’m not saying that that wouldn’t apply.

Nestor Aparicio  29:35

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No, I just got my feelings hurt. They’re playing, and we’re not that, that that is, bad that’s effed up. I can’t that out loud. That’s kids are in the championship game and we’re not. That’s crazy. The last time they were in the championship game was a few months before Camden Yards opened. I remember it well. My goodness, I I was 50 feet from the bench when Thurman Thomas lost his helmet. Dude. I was eight. Years little Trump was sitting four rows in front of me. Yeah, so, but, but again, putting aside the RAM, long term ramifications of that, it’s just frustrating to see it, because it’s just like,

Luke Jones  30:12

if they win, which, you know, Philadelphia is going to be the favorite, as they should be, although Jalen Hurts status. I mean, he’s banged up. Who knows? I mean, maybe, maybe we’ll be talking differently in a few days, but you just look at it, and it’s just like, generally speaking, they’ve been so good. I mean, this where they’ve been the last six years in the regular season. It’s the best six year run in the history of the franchise in terms of regular season, right? And wins and losses in the regular season and two first round buys and being the number one seed and home field advantage. I mean, the kind of things that Steve a shotty years ago lamented, even even under John Harbaugh, in terms of wanting more home playoff games and not always being on the road and all. They’ve done that, but they haven’t taken advantage of it, and they haven’t been the best version of themselves in January. And it’s just, it’s incredibly frustrating. I mean, it really is. And again, I don’t know. There’s no simple solution to it, other than just you need your stars to play like stars, and you need to play like you play in the regular season. I mean, it’s just that sounds very simplistic, you know, I don’t know if they need to invest in a couple sports shrinks or something like that. I don’t know. I mean, it’s just, I don’t know how you account for your pro, three time Pro Bowl tight end dropping a pillow soft pass that would have tied the game, you know, I I don’t know how you account for your quarterback who’s been the best in football in the regular season over the last six years, you know, he had two turnovers in the first half. Now he made up for it. Lamar was great in the second half, but those two turnovers were a reason why they were down 11 points at halftime, and why they to your point, they were playing uphill even, even as they got their running game going and they got back in the game, you know, it was still, you know, it was still playing from behind. That’s not easy. That’s not how any team wants to play, let alone the Ravens with their ground game. So it’s just frustrating. And then to your point, you do point out what’s going on in Washington and Jaden Daniels and the possibility that they’re 60 minutes away from potentially go into the Super Bowl, but you had designs of being there. Man, that’s a long off season. It really is, and it’s just, it’s frustrating. It really is. And I don’t know, I can’t my only silver lining is, again, Lamar Jackson’s 28 and you’ve got a lot of talented young players on this team that are going to be around for at least the next few years. It’ll, it’ll evolve. You know, again, what happens with Stanley, you know, Marlon Humphrey is entering the final year of a contract you’re gonna have to pay Kyle Hamilton at some point in the next year. You know, off the next two off seasons. Same with Linder bomb. But, I mean, what’s it going to take? Other than just, you gotta go out and do it. And that’s just, you know, it’s, it’s frustrating. Lou Jones

Nestor Aparicio  33:06

is here. We’re gonna come back talk about cleaning out lockers and off season, and more about the bills and the Chiefs meeting in the AFC Championship Game The Washington commanders in the Philadelphia, one of them’s going to the Super Bowl Philadelphia or Washington. One of them. And I know all of you. I have all of your numbers, all your cheese steaks, all of your little burgundy and gold games, all these years, Riggins, Theismann, all of them. We’re going to hear from all of might even hear from Chris Cooley before it’s all over, with my youth and Dexter man, Leon with the grease man on Mondays and we didn’t have a franchise nose pressed up against the glass. I am Nestor. We are W, N, S T. Am 1570 Towson, Baltimore. Back for more. We will continue to talk ravens football, whether you want us to or not. We’re Baltimore positive. Stay with us. You.

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