Picking up the ugly pieces of a horrendous Ravens loss to Chiefs in Kansas City

It was a bad day in Kansas City for the Baltimore Ravens. Now 1-3 and overwhelmed by a game filled with injuries, Luke Jones and Nestor pick up the ugly pieces of a horrendous loss to Chiefs at Arrowhead Stadium.

Nestor Aparicio and Luke Jones discuss the Baltimore Ravens’ dismal 1-3 start, highlighting the team’s numerous injuries, including Lamar Jackson, Ronnie Stanley, and key defensive players. They reflect on the Ravens’ poor performance over the past six quarters, particularly the loss to Kansas City. Despite the team’s high preseason expectations, they now face a critical period with upcoming games against Houston and the Rams. The conversation touches on the need for the team to regain trust, improve their offensive strategy, and address the defensive issues. Both hosts express concern but remain hopeful for a turnaround.

• [ ] @Nestor Aparicio – Ensure the team maintains unity and trust in each other and the coaching staff to avoid any potential locker room issues during this difficult stretch.
• [ ] Determine Lamar Jackson’s status for the next game and monitor his hamstring injury.
• [ ] Evaluate the extent of Ronnie Stanley’s ankle injury and his availability going forward.
• [ ] Assess the timelines for the return of injured defensive players like Marlon Humphrey, Roquan Smith, and the defensive line.
• [ ] Identify the team’s offensive identity and play-calling approach to get the running game and Derrick Henry more involved in critical situations.

Ravens’ Loss to Chiefs: Initial Reactions

• Nestor Aparicio introduces the show, mentioning the Ravens’ loss to the Chiefs and the upcoming Maryland crab cake tour.
• Nestor and Luke Jones discuss the numerous injuries and poor performance of the Ravens, including Lamar Jackson, Marlon Humphrey, and Roquan Smith.
• Nestor expresses frustration over the team’s current state, comparing it to past disappointing games like Wembley in 2017 and the Lee Evans Billy Cundiff game.
• Luke suggests that everyone take a deep breath and notes the poor performance over the past six quarters, starting from the second half of the Detroit game.

Historical Context and Team Performance

• Luke reflects on the Ravens’ performance, noting that they have not played this poorly since the end of 2021 when Lamar Jackson was injured.
• Nestor and Luke discuss the team’s record of 1-3, which is the worst start in a decade, and the high expectations they had at the beginning of the season.
• Nestor mentions that both he and Luke picked the Chiefs to win, but not by such a large margin.
• Luke highlights the overwhelming pundit pick for the Ravens, given Kansas City’s urgency and the Ravens’ recent struggles.

Concerns Over Team’s Mental State

• Nestor and Luke discuss the mental state of the team, expressing concern over the players and coaches potentially losing trust in each other.
• Luke mentions the importance of winning the next game against the Houston Texans to stop the bleeding and regain some confidence.
• Nestor and Luke talk about the upcoming games against the Rams and the potential impact of the bye week on the team’s recovery.
• Luke emphasizes the need for the team to find their identity and circle the wagons to overcome the current challenges.

Offensive Strategy and Injuries

• Nestor and Luke critique the offensive strategy, particularly the decision to pass on third and three instead of running with Derrick Henry.
• Luke points out the inconsistency in the offense, noting that they have scored a lot of points but have also had some very poor performances.
• Nestor and Luke discuss the impact of injuries on the offensive line, including Ronnie Stanley and Lamar Jackson.
• Luke mentions the importance of the bye week for the team to recover from their injuries and regroup.

Defensive Performance and Future Outlook

• Nestor and Luke analyze the poor performance of the defense, noting that many of the players have been struggling even before the recent injuries.
• Luke highlights the importance of the upcoming games against the Texans and Rams to get back on track.
• Nestor and Luke discuss the potential long-term impact of the injuries on the team’s performance and the need for the defense to improve.
• Luke expresses optimism that the team can recover and improve, but acknowledges the challenges they currently face.

Team Morale and Fan Reactions

• Nestor and Luke discuss the impact of the loss on the team’s morale and the reactions of the fans.
• Nestor mentions the importance of the team’s performance in the upcoming games to regain the fans’ trust and support.
• Luke emphasizes the need for the team to stay positive and focused on improving their performance.
• Nestor and Luke talk about the importance of the team’s leadership and coaching in guiding them through this difficult period.

Upcoming Events and Community Engagement

• Nestor announces the Maryland crab cake tour and the upcoming events at Fadely at Lexington Market.
• Nestor mentions the importance of community engagement and the support of the team’s sponsors.
• Nestor and Luke discuss the importance of staying positive and supporting the team through the challenges they are facing.
• Nestor expresses gratitude to the team’s fans and supporters, emphasizing the importance of their continued support.

SUMMARY KEYWORDS

Ravens loss, Kansas City, Lamar Jackson, defense injuries, Ronnie Stanley, Marlon Humphrey, Roquan Smith, Patrick Mahomes, offensive strategy, mental toughness, upcoming games, Houston Texans, Rams, purple therapy.

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SPEAKERS

Luke Jones, Nestor Aparicio

Nestor Aparicio  00:01

Welcome home. We are W, N, S T am 1570 task of Baltimore. We are Baltimore positive picking up the pieces of the mess on Sunday afternoon out at Arrowhead Stadium in Kansas City. We will be doing the Maryland crab cake tour beginning on Wednesday, brought to you by the Maryland lottery. I will have these ravens scratch offs to give away. I like the matt finish on these. We’ll see if they’re a little luckier than the Ravens have been thus far. At one and three, we’re picking up at fade these this week will be a cost this next week. The whole schedule up out at Baltimore positive Checking in now on the GBMC hotline here, Luke Jones, who will be out knowing smells this week? Uh, trying to figure out, I don’t even know where to begin. Dude, right? Like Lamar the injury the defense, Marlon, Humphrey, roquan Smith, the entire defensive line decimated the loss itself, one in three on and on. Ronnie Stanley, on and on and on. I How did I get to him last I don’t know, dude, what a disaster. And people were saying maybe Wembley in 17, or the Lee Evans Billy Cundiff game. I don’t remember anything quite like the segments we’re about to do and whatever the purple therapy this city is going to go through this week.

Luke Jones  01:20

Well, first of all, everyone needs to take a deep breath, because that’s necessary at a point like this where you are coming off of, I mean, wow, that was as bad as it’s been. And really go back to the second half of the Detroit game, you know, I, I was struggling to think, when was the last time, not counting the end of 21 the end of 22 when Lamar was hurt. But I was trying to think the last time the Ravens have had so much go wrong, and they have played so poorly over a six quarter stretch, when you go back to the second half of the Detroit game, and I mean, it’s, it’s a wow. I mean it absolutely is. Now it’s late September, going into October. There are 13 games to go. The season is not over, and anyone who says otherwise is being a little too fatalistic about this. That said they’re one in three. They’re one in three for the first time in a decade, they’re one in three with a team that entered the season and just three weeks ago had a 15 point lead in Buffalo with five minutes to go. They entered the season as the wildly popular Super Bowl favorite.

Nestor Aparicio  02:31

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They’re the biggest story in the league this week for all the wrong reasons. Right? Sure.

Luke Jones  02:36

Well, and I will say as an aside, I thought it was absolutely insane to see the overwhelming pundit, you know, pick picking of the Ravens in this game, considering Kansas City is Kansas City, and they had even more urgency, even though the

Nestor Aparicio  02:57

two, we’re two for two, you picked against them and I picked against them, right? We both picked. I mean, I certainly

Luke Jones  03:02

I didn’t pick them to get their butts kicked the way they did. I mean, no one was, no one saw that coming,

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Nestor Aparicio  03:07

but we thought they’d be one in three. Both of us began the day Sunday with predictions full out on Baltimore, positive. If you call our 800 number, we’ll have our picks. No, I’m making that up, but, but we, we picked this. I mean, we both thought this was once the defensive line starts falling apart. You can’t stop the run against the guy like Patrick mahomes. I, I didn’t feel good about this because of that, and then once the game started, I’ll let you pick that pros up because like, losing players along the way, including Lamar. But it just was as bad as I had feared. Yeah, well, I’m not going to give myself credit for picking Kansas City to win when I didn’t think it was going to be anything like this. That that’s, you know, I’m not going to be disingenuous and say I foresaw a butt will thing because I did six injuries or seven injuries, however many add them up. I don’t know about fighters, but

Luke Jones  04:02

even before the injuries, they play poorly. I mean, they played poorly last week when madapeka was the big one, and Van Noy as well. But I mean, it’s just, it’s discouraging. I mean, it’s alarming. I think for as much as you can point to it being early, like I just said it was, and the fact there are 13 games left, and it’s absolutely relevant to note that the schedule will soften up as excuse me, my cat is

Nestor Aparicio  04:36

I love your I love that your cats. I don’t like it right now.

Luke Jones  04:41

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Sorry that’s great for everyone on YouTube, everyone on radio, saying, What the heck, but, but I think when you just look at how this has, I don’t have spiraled, is the right term. But, yeah, it is, because they had a 15 point lead in Buffalo, and they looked. Through the first three and a half quarters of this season, they looked every bit the part of the best team in football. And, yeah, okay, the defense wasn’t great through the first three quarters of that game. You’re playing the bills, right? I mean, everything was on schedule, right? I mean, in terms of how they looked, in terms of Lamar, in terms of Derrick Henry, in terms of just everything, and to just see how it’s gone so south here and now with the injuries on top of that, that’s where you point to it and say, Okay, you’re one in three. Are they fully capable of climbing out of this 1,000% and I’m not going, you’re not going to argue with me otherwise, because they’re absolutely capable of that, in part because I’m just not that big of a belief. Believer in the rest of the division, either Pittsburgh, acknowledging their their win over in Ireland, Sunday morning. You know, acknowledging that aside, I’m still not seeing any of these teams in this division that’s going to run away and hide, and the Ravens are not gonna be able to catch up.

Nestor Aparicio  05:58

Chargers are gonna run away and I’d either based on what I saw the Right, right? I mean, the bills

Luke Jones  06:03

are clearly a different cut, and there are different covenants. They’re healthy too, but, but even they, if you watched red zone, and I mean, the Saints were giving them a game for a lot into the second half of that. I mean, the league’s Crazy, right? We talked about, it’s a week to week League, and that’s part of why, while I’m absolutely concerned. I’m not pressing the panic button at this point in time. But when you start to look at the injuries, and you know, the fortunate thing is, other than the MATA BK situation, we which we still don’t have long term clarity on other than he’s out for. He was out this game and obviously out for at least the next three games, right? I mean, even your best case scenario of whatever it is you’re talking after the bye week for him and Broderick Washington, but now you have all these other injuries. But I think the thing that concerns me Nestor, and this was part of why I did pick Kansas City on Sunday, winning a close game, because one, they’re battle tested. They’re a champion. And when I when I say the Ravens aren’t battle tested, I don’t mean in the sense that they’ve won a ton of football games in the regular season in recent years, but we’ve talked about it in January. We’ve talked about it when they’ve blown fourth quarter leads. It’s not really their forte to kind of be in this position. Now. They they lost three out of four with a healthy Lamar in November of 2020 and they righted the ship, and that was a covid years weird, all that, you know. So it’s not as though it’s completely unprecedented for the ravens to have some scuffles and some struggles with a Lamar Jackson led team, or offense and football team, but when you have the defense that’s just in this disastrous state that it’s in right now, that’s a disaster. The offense for me, you know, the Ronnie Stanley injury, and obviously Lamar, and we’re gonna have to see how that looks. It didn’t look, you know, it didn’t look like a catastrophic hamstring injury. But you know, is he gonna play next week? Is he gonna play the week after that? You know, they had the buy after that. It’s kind of looking like an early season by is going to be just what the doctor ordered with how banged up this football team is right now. But I think what worries me more than anything is just the between the ears part of this. And I think when you start like this, there’s a tendency that if you’re not careful, guys can and when I say guys, I mean players and coaches, for that matter, to turn on each other. And I don’t mean like in a spiteful, personal way, but you start to lose trust in what you’re doing, what your teammates are doing, what your coaches are doing, all that if you’re not careful, and that’s where things can spiral in the sense of, okay, the one in three Houston Texans are coming to town Sunday. I’m picking the ravens to win right now. I think, I mean, unless Lamar is ruled out, or all these guys are ruled out, but even then, it’s Houston. But got the Rams after that, rams have looked pretty good, right? So you just kind of look at this thing, and it’s like you have to weather this storm and find a way to win a football game next Sunday, no matter how it looks. It doesn’t have to be by four touchdowns. You don’t need to put up 40 points on the board. You don’t need to pitch a shutout on defense. Just figure out a way to win to stop the bleeding. And then you can exhale a little bit, albeit very briefly, right? Because you know you’re only if that happens, you’re still two and three and three and in danger of being two and four if you don’t beat the Rams. But I just for me, when you have as much going wrong as it’s going wrong right now, I do worry about the mental part of it. You know, I said and I wrote this at Baltimore positive.com and my 12 ravens, thoughts going into Sunday’s game that I didn’t really think this was a must win game for either team, but it wasn’t under, under the hood game. And what concerns me is, you see how Kansas City came out. Yeah, they got Xavier worthy back that absolutely helped their offense. There’s no question about that, and I thought it would, but you see how they responded, and then with the ravens and obviously the injuries piling it up. Made it even worse. But after that first drive, I mean very little to write home about that was positive about this game. I mean, good opening drive, and then after that, you know, they defense held them to a couple field goals early, but then the dam just completely broke after that. But what’s their identity? You know, how are they? How are they going to, you know, circle the wagons and pick each other up through this, right? I mean, those are questions, and I don’t say that about the Ravens. Like, that’s just a general thing. When you’re going through,

Nestor Aparicio  10:33

Lewis, you never asked that question. Now, I don’t know who they’re, Ray, Lewis, I really don’t. And I look man, I’m not making excuses for them at all right, like, in any way, like Humphrey, roquan, matta, BK, Ronnie Stanley, you start to take away center field on this team. You know what I mean? You’re just, you’re taking away, and then Lamar at the end, and whatever that whether that was, he’s had enough today, and it’s gamesmanship in any sort of I don’t mean,

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Luke Jones  11:07

I’d like to think that’s not the case. I mean, it’s not as though math, they weren’t down five touchdowns at that point in time. There was still enough time at that point that you absolutely yeah now and a

Nestor Aparicio  11:17

comeback. So Ronnie Stanley, I’m concerned. Yeah, I mean, it’s the ankle,

Luke Jones  11:23

and we you and I haven’t had a chance to talk since Friday’s practice, but he was listed as limited. But as far as the open part of practice, he was off on a side field, working with the trainer, and he wasn’t moving well. I mean, and I think it’s very apparent how quickly he left that game that it just wasn’t working for him. So, I mean, it’s they’ve got to figure this out. And I think if there’s one takeaway beyond just the overall performance, you know, over 60 minutes and the injuries, what the heck was that first offensive drive of the second half? They had third and three inside CBS was like, I don’t know Nance and Romo were out to lunch in that part of the game, because they kept saying

Nestor Aparicio  12:11

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they’re not very good. Man. Oh, it is just

Luke Jones  12:15

for hours. That was just, hey, everybody’s Great. Everybody’s the best. Everything’s great. I’m trying to make a point here, but yeah, but yeah, it was third and three. Right. TV listed as third and one, if you follow like the NFL, you know the their GSIs website that has the live box score and updated stats real time all that. It was certain three, but it was third and three and Kansas City had scored. It was 27 to 10. Why aren’t you giving the ball to Derrick Henry there? What is this team trying to be? Because the way their offense is playing, and has played the last couple of weeks since Cleveland shut down their running game the way they did, they look like they want to be a finesse offense. I mean that that right there. And again, they were down 17. I’m not saying they’re they win the game or they stage a comeback there, but that right there made me question like, what’s their identity right now?

Nestor Aparicio  13:08

Well, they don’t want him on the field in those situations. That’s obvious. But why?

Luke Jones  13:14

I mean, why? Why are you in Why are you in passing mode on third and three, when that should be four down territory there? Freaking line up in heavy and I get it. Patrick Ricardo is not out there. Line up in heavy and and push, push the pile two plays in a row if you need to and get the first down and score touchdown, unless you think you can, well, then that’s part of the problem, because it’s Derrick Henry, and even with Ronnie Stanley being out, they’ve run the they ran the ball plenty of times over the last five years, successfully, even when Ronnie Stanley wasn’t on the field,

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Nestor Aparicio  13:47

just having Lamar out there creates a mismatch. You know, with the sleight of hand, in a general sense, it stresses the defense. When you take Derrick Henry off the field, you stress them less

Luke Jones  13:59

just I just that boggled my mind. And look, I understand when it’s obvious passing situations that, yes, you want Justice Hill out there. Justice hills a good football player. He is the, he’s the Blitz pickup pass protection leak out into the flat. You know, whatever you know when you’re

Nestor Aparicio  14:15

in carried five guys with him with his legs to get a first down early in the game. And I’m like, capable player, yeah, strong in

Luke Jones  14:22

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the bottom, yes, I did not like that sequence one bit in terms of where they are as a football team and more specifically as an offense. We all agree. All agree the defense is utter disaster right now. I mean, let’s face it, you can talk about the injuries, other than Matt abika, specifically, all these, most of these guys that exited, other than Wiggins, let’s say, have had absolutely had a part in their poor play on the defensive side of the ball. I mean, Marlon Humphrey has been playing bad this year now. Has he been playing through some kind of nagging injury or something like that? I mean, he wasn’t on the injury report this week, picking on him early in the game. Yeah, they went right out. After him, right? So you know, roquan, we’ve talked about his up and down play at times, and you know how much of that is whoever’s playing the will next to him, like and

Nestor Aparicio  15:08

I think dude’s playing in front of him too, by the way,

Luke Jones  15:10

sure, no question. And don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying that the injuries aren’t a concern they have. They obviously are, but I guess my point with the defense is the defense was playing poorly even before these injuries started mounting, but I don’t know that there’s just something. And you know, me, I’m not even Mr. Like, oh, Derek Henry, run for 2000 yards this year, and should carry the ball 35 times every single game, no matter what. I mean, I’m not that guy, you know? I mean, it’s all situational to situational game, right? You can remember, I was the guy that wasn’t necessarily jumping on the table about signing Derrick Henry two years ago, but like you have him, you’re in this spot where it’s third and three, you need a touchdown. It should be four down territory, and then you take him out of the game, and Lamar gets sacked, and then you’re kicking a field goal there. I mean, I just that was soft. That was soft offense right there. I mean, that was just soft. Where’s the toughness of the Ravens? So that really, that resonated with me as something in, specifically at the game, within the game, you know, the big picture within, you know, a situation that I really didn’t like, that didn’t sit well with me, and I just, I don’t know, so they obviously have to get healthy, and I think they will. I mean, these aren’t, these aren’t a bunch of season ending, you know, ACL tears and things of that nature, yeah, but

Nestor Aparicio  16:34

they feel Maggie enough that if you’re two and four, two weeks from now, I, you know,

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Luke Jones  16:40

be a two and four. I mean, the other. I mean, like I said, Look at this. Look at the post buy schedule. It softens considerably. They have over these first four games. Have arguably played and not even arguably, they’re three of the best teams in the NFL. So I’m not saying that that’s good, that you haven’t beaten any of them. That’s obviously bad. But you also have to understand, you know, they’re not losing to scrub teams here, so the path is going to be there for them to get back on track. But gotta go do it. I mean, as I’m going to write at Baltimore positive.com the benefit of the doubt is wearing thin very rapidly here. So, I mean, you’ve got to

Nestor Aparicio  17:19

you are what your record says you are and and they’re not an unlucky one and three, we’re sitting here trying to figure out what’s good about it. I played that game with the baseball team the other day, and I’m still, I was really tough on the baseball team over the weekend. And I’m like, you know, yeah, I’d say, like, what are they good at? Right? What is this team not last year. Todd monkin, this that whatever what as constructed right now, what are they good at on their best day, and what’s the reality of these injuries and the depletion of dubious at best defense? Now, when you start to think about, well, if they’re going to play this week and the next month without the defensive line, and they’re going to play maybe this week without roqua Maybe this week without Marlon Humphrey. I don’t know, man. I mean, those are the reason those guys make $20 million a year. They’re not replaceable. And I, I went further down the depth chart. These are all guys, you know, because you watch the preseason games, and I did too, sadly,

Luke Jones  18:25

but maybe you’re reaching for the roster like, I mean, you’re seeing in a big way. Hey, I full disclosure. I had to do that, and it wasn’t so much that I didn’t know who Josh tupo was. I could I hadn’t memorized his his jersey number, because he just got signed to the practice squad this week, right? I had forgotten that CJ akoye switched from 97 in the preseason to 91 right? Because he’s been on the practice squad. And while I’m aware of everyone on the practice squad, they’re not at at the front of my mind. You know, they’re not,

Nestor Aparicio  18:54

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and then they’re in the game in the third quarter.

Luke Jones  18:56

Wow. Yeah, sure. So yeah. I mean, just as we talked about for six months with this Oriole season, that’s finally come to an end, and we’ll pick up that discussion at some point. The injuries are absolutely part of this, but there’s, there’s too much else going on that I’m concerned about as well, right? And, like I said, that’s why I really, you know, it seems like I’m belaboring the point, but that opening drive of the third quarter after Kansas City had driven down the field and the Ravens were about to answer, you know, in the sense that they got to the red zone, I just third and three taken Derrick Henry off the field. When that should right there at third and three, you should be thinking already, this is four down territory. We’re going to go, we’re going for it. We have to, we’re down 17 like we we’ve got to get something going here because, also, because our defense isn’t stopping a nosebleed, right? I mean that that has to be your thing. Well, that’s going to be there thinking for a while now, right? But I just, I don’t, I don’t understand why, like, that was finesse, like that was something a finesse team does right there. And I just, I didn’t like that. I hated that.

Nestor Aparicio  19:58

So you. Give the ball away. You don’t know when you’re going to get it back with this team right now.

Luke Jones  20:03

Well, I mean, and again, like I said, I mean, they, and they even, Henry had some runs on that drive, right? They came out and he ran the ball. Lamar ran the ball in the second play of that drive.

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Nestor Aparicio  20:14

It felt like Roma was saying, don’t panic, run the ball, right? Yeah, sure. And it

Luke Jones  20:19

felt like they were doing that. And then they get to that spot when it’s third and three, and you say, I don’t care if Derrick Henry only gets two yards here, I’m going to go for it on fourth and one. Then, right? I mean, like, that’s the thought there. And they didn’t do that. And it’s just it was bizarre to me. I mean, well, they’re

Nestor Aparicio  20:34

not at the point, and they’re not structured this way, that way they were when we snot talk them last year, which is, you can’t stop it. It’s coming left, it’s coming right. We’re going to run over you’re going to run around you. We’re going to pass it over your head. Lamar is too fast. Lamar is too good. Lamar reads defenses. They’re protecting him. He’s stepping up. He’s seeing the field well. He’s elusive. You can’t chase him. You can’t catch him, you can’t tackle Derek Henry, you can’t stop this too tight end, monster safe flowers, runs these perfect routes. They’re going to get him the ball in space, like all of those things, and that’s not even mentioned in Bateman, or, by the way, Hopkins just I marvel at Hopkins, even on plays where they have penalties and he doesn’t get the credit for that, but I marvel. Means he’s beautiful to watch. He really is above and beyond. Odell Beckham, like this is as good as it gets, where every time the ball goes up, it feels like he’s going to come down with it. But all of these assets that the offense has, or we perceive them as, having Pro Bowl center out of Iowa on the come right tackle out of Washington. Left tackles put it all back together again. It’s found the fountain of really good and five teams wanted to give him $100 million this off season. But he, you know, we figured it out. He’s our guy to I don’t know, you tell me, I just went through all the optimism of the offense, and now it’s week four, one and three, and who’s going where and why and what, and who’s fumble prone, and Lamar throwing helmets and throwing picks and putting the ball on the ground too. Yeah.

Luke Jones  22:10

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I mean, first of all, I do want to bring a little bit of balance to this as of you know, assuming the Monday night game doesn’t have a team scoring 80 points or something like that, like they’re third in the league in points scored. I mean, it’s not as though they but it’s, it’s the identity of it. It’s real. For me, it’s a case of the sum not being as great as the parts right now, whereas you kind of want it to be the opposite of that. I mean, like two years ago, their offense was very much a sum is greater than the parts because, you know, they didn’t have a stud running back and, you know, Lamar didn’t put up, like video game numbers, but they were just very efficient, right? Everything that they kind of drilled down on what they did well, and they did it really, really well, whereas this has been much more of, like a high variance offense, that it’s had stretches where it’s just been unbelievable, like they did in Buffalo through the first 50 minutes of that game, but then they’ve had stretches where, you know, Derrick Henry fumbles the ball, right? And, I mean, if there’s a silver lining, Derrick Henry didn’t fumble on Sunday, right? I meant to lead with that as a moment to, you know, kind of, see, lighten the mood a little bit, but, but, but it’s just, it goes back to what I said, like, what’s their identity, right? Now, they’ve scored a lot of points. You know, it’s not as it’s not as though that their offense has been horrendous, or anything like that, but it’s just been like, very, you know, just very two faced, very like I said, high variance, where, when it’s great, it’s great, but it’s also had some really bad lows. I mean, you go back to the first half of the Cleveland game. Browns have a good defense. You know, the lows just

Nestor Aparicio  23:42

ringing out. The lows are literally three and out, and we’re punting, and there is no drive. It’s not half a drive. You put half a drive together. You go for it on fourth down, you convert, you move, you kick a field goal. What do you get? Points, whatever you do. I would say that the difference in all of this. And this is where, you know, I had my awakening back in Carson, California, seven years ago, when they’re running around at there’s just first down efficiency, just how incredible they were at first down, which kept the ball away from you and or, you know, Lamar would run 48 yards, and it would be a six play drive, seven, always seven, sometimes eight, if they were frisky, right? You know, they wanted to do a two pointer. So it was, you were getting the ball back down seven every single time they touched the ball. And it was a matter of whether, was it going to be 11 plays, and is it going to be water torture and seven minutes and dink and dank and dunk or or, you know, and Lamar eight yards off tackle, second and two. They were always living in second and short and first downs were amazing. And when they get off schedule in that way, in any way he had. Know, they’re pedestrian at Second and six, and certainly Second and nine and second and 12 and second and 15 or whatever, second and one and two and three, right? Second one and two and three are beautiful, and they’re not in that anymore, well, but doesn’t live here right now.

Luke Jones  25:13

But that’s why I keep going back to, you know, I’m a broken record about this. They were in third and three, and, you know, and whether that, it certainly wasn’t third and one, like Nancy Romo were saying, and even CBS, like their spotter had to, you know, they kept saying it was third and one, you could see it was three yards, or at least two and a half yards. So, but that’s, that’s not a running situation, you know, especially when you know, like, you want to get seven here because you’re down 17 points at that point in time. I mean, it’s just that was just weird to me. It was very bizarre to me that that they went in the direction they did there. And, you know, soon the game was out of hand. Not long thereafter, but, but, yeah, look again, they put, they put points up. And, you know, there was an empty, empty calorie. I mean, good for Justice Hill at the end of the game, but that was an empty calorie touchdown. In the same way they had an empty calorie touchdown at the end last week, which forced an onside kick. But again, you

Nestor Aparicio  26:10

know, Detroit, yeah, records the only thing that really matters. But yeah,

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Luke Jones  26:14

no. Well, we have to talk about more than the record, because this padding

Nestor Aparicio  26:18

out stats, I’m saying sure, in the case of making the game look, making the yardage look better on a 74 yard player, whatever it was, right? But, you know, but we’ve

Luke Jones  26:27

they, they scored 40 points against buffalo, right? I mean, they scored 41 against Cleveland. I mean, even last week, and okay, even throw out the last touchdown at 23 for me again, it’s really been these last six quarters. I mean, even you know that that Detroit game, it was, it was tied at halftime, you know? I mean, their defense was having its issues. There’s no doubt about it. But it’s not as though they weren’t in the game, but just the way this has gone over these last six quarters, in terms of how they’ve played across the board, and then when you throw the injuries into it on top of that. I mean, it gets, it gets scary. I mean, it’s, it’s unnerving right now. I mean, I know the the live stream, the audio wasn’t working, so a lot of fans missed out on seeing that, you know, right after the game, if they could stomach watching and listening to it. But I mean, they’re shell shocked right now, as they should be, right? I mean, like I said, even I picked Kansas City to win. I didn’t pick them the win like this, right? I mean, I was surprised by this. I mean, this was, you know, you mentioned the last time they had a game like this. You know, they they had a game early in 21 when Cincinnati came to town and beat them pretty good. But you know, even that you could kind of point to the secondary Jamar.

Nestor Aparicio  27:46

This feels different with mahomes. It feels different because but it’s also further along in how many chapters in this battle that they’ve lost now to Kansas City, and also where they are one and three, and also with Lamar with ice on his his hamstring and out of the game in the third quarter, which gives him no chance. But then, on top of all of that, Ronnie Stanley, roquan Smith, Marlon Humphrey, we know where we are with the entire defensive line. And I mean, let’s break we’re going to talk more about all this. We’ll come back. We’re going to talk individually about the defense and my homes, and the Chiefs coming to life, and even a little bit of the Steelers and this and that. He’s Luke. He’s Baltimore, Luke. We’re just getting going with purple therapy. We give a whole week they play on schedule at one o’clock next week against the Houston Texas. Luke will be out in Owings Mills all week. On Wednesday, I will be at fadely at Lexington market, and I’m it’s just been like the whole baseball thing stinking in August and September has kind of kept me out of fade leaves the way. I’d like to be down to reach shrimp salad, eating fried oysters, going to play off games this week. Red Sox, Yankees are going on. Cubs in a Padres are getting together. It’s like 1984 all over again. Give me the warm baseball fuzzy. So I’ll be watching some baseball this week. We’ll also be bringing the Maryland lottery scratch offs The Raven scratch offs down the fade leaves this week. We’re going to be a cost this next week. I’m putting other shows together in different Cocos. We’re going to be there in November, because we couldn’t do the end of October was a little bit of a thing. So all of our sponsors hanging in there, after what we went through with the baseball season to think that this is where we are right now, at one and three, I’m going to need to tell off, and I’m trying to pull the spirits of John Steadman and Charlie Eckman down on to me right now, and even John Feinstein, and just try to stay sane. And I don’t just mean what’s going on in Washington, DC. I’m Nestor. He’s Luke. We got plenty of football ahead. We’re Baltimore positive. Stay with us. You.