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With the slow starts of the biggest financial investments of the shaky offseason of Mike Elias and the new Rubenstein ownership, Luke Jones and Nestor reset the expectations for a playoff hopeful franchise is sustaining equal parts patience and “win-now” pressure. Shane Baz flashed on Tuesday night and all aspects of Pete Alonso have our historians discussing two Davis guys whose infamy stalks the newest Birds first baseman.

Nestor Aparicio and Luke Jones discussed the Orioles’ recent performance, highlighting Shane Baz’s encouraging outing against the Astros. Baz pitched 5.2 innings, striking out six, and showed promise with a new sinker. The conversation also touched on the Orioles’ upcoming series against the Yankees, emphasizing the need for consistent wins. They compared Baz’s potential to Chris Tillman’s prime and discussed the importance of Pete Alonso’s performance. The segment also covered the Orioles’ defensive struggles and the need for better overall team play.

  • [ ] @Nestor Aparicio – Bring Maryland Treasure scratch-off tickets to the May 13 Faidley’s Crab Derby stop and give them away to attendees.
  • [ ] @Nestor Aparicio – Bring Maryland Treasure scratch-off tickets to the May 21 Fishmonger’s Daughter stop in Catonsville and give them away to attendees.
  • [ ] @Nestor Aparicio – Host the May 7 Planet Fitness Baltimore Positive segment in Timonium and record the planned AI segment with Dennis O’Donovan.
  • [ ] @Nestor Aparicio – Host the May 13 Faidley’s Crab Derby Baltimore Positive segment in Essex and record the AI segment with Dennis O’Donovan.
  • [ ] @Nestor Aparicio – Host the May 21 Fishmonger’s Daughter Baltimore Positive segment in Catonsville and record the AI segment with Dennis O’Donovan.
  • [ ] @Nestor Aparicio – Contact Rick Vaughn and Charles Steinberg to invite them back on the show to discuss Glenn Davis and related topics.
  • [ ] @Nestor Aparicio – Prepare and record a Glenn Davis history segment for the show, using accurate details about the 1991 trade and his time with the Orioles.
  • [ ] @Nestor Aparicio – Have an in-depth conversation with Katie Griggs about transparency around the Orioles’ TV network, ballpark attendance, and related topics.
  • [ ] Research and confirm the exact dates and financial details of the Glenn Davis trade to ensure accuracy in the upcoming history segment.
  • [ ] Monitor Caden Bodine’s performance at Single-A and report on his progress over the next few years.

Outline

Maryland Crab Cake Tour and Upcoming Events

  • Nestor Aparicio discusses the Maryland crab cake tour, mentioning stops at Pizza John’s and Essex.
  • Nestor talks about attending a fitness event in Timonium and watching the Derby and Preakness at Costas.
  • Nestor mentions upcoming guests, including Dick Girardi and Greg Share, and his Maryland treasure scratch offs.
  • Nestor looks forward to an interview with Ivan Bates about law and order and mentions political guests.

Orioles’ Recent Performance and Upcoming Series

  • Nestor and Luke Jones discuss the Orioles’ recent performance, including a day off during a home stand.
  • Nestor highlights the importance of the upcoming series against the Yankees and the need for better play.
  • Nestor and Luke discuss the significance of Shane Baz’s performance against the Astros.
  • Luke notes the Astros’ struggles with pitching despite having a strong lineup.

Shane Baz’s Potential and Orioles’ Investment

  • Nestor and Luke discuss Shane Baz’s potential and the Orioles’ investment in him.
  • Nestor emphasizes the importance of Baz’s consistent performance.
  • Luke mentions Baz’s work on a new sinker and its impact on his pitching.
  • Nestor and Luke reflect on the Orioles’ limited resources and the importance of smart investments.

Historical Context and Comparisons

  • Nestor and Luke discuss the Astros’ fiscal sanity and their investment in local talent like Hader.
  • Nestor compares the Astros’ approach to the Orioles’ financial constraints and player acquisitions.
  • Nestor reflects on the Orioles’ history with players like Glenn Davis and Chris Davis.
  • Nestor and Luke discuss the pressure on Pete Alonso to perform and the expectations for his contract.

Orioles’ Lineup and Individual Performances

  • Nestor and Luke discuss the Orioles’ lineup, including players like Adley Rutschman and Gunnar Henderson.
  • Nestor emphasizes the importance of Alonso’s performance and the need for other players to step up.
  • Luke highlights the encouraging performances of Taylor Ward and other players.
  • Nestor and Luke reflect on the need for better defense and overall team performance.

Orioles’ Future and Fan Expectations

  • Nestor and Luke discuss the Orioles’ future and the need for consistent performance.
  • Nestor emphasizes the importance of winning to re-engage fans and improve attendance.
  • Luke mentions the need for the team to stack wins and avoid losing streaks.
  • Nestor reflects on the importance of transparency and accountability from the team’s management.

Upcoming Events and Guest Appearances

  • Nestor promotes upcoming events, including appearances at Planet Fitness and Faidley’s.
  • Nestor mentions guests like Jamie Moyer, John McClane, and Greg Share.
  • Nestor discusses the importance of supporting local businesses and events.
  • Nestor reflects on the community’s support and the impact of his radio show on local engagement.

SUMMARY KEYWORDS

Orioles success, Shane Baz, Yankees series, Pete Alonso, Adley Rutschman, Taylor Ward, defense issues, Mike Elias, Glenn Davis, Chris Davis, baseball acquisitions, fan expectations, Maryland crab cake tour, Baltimore positive, sports radio.

SPEAKERS

Speaker 1, Luke Jones, Nestor Aparicio

Nestor Aparicio  00:01

Welcome home. We are W, N, S, T, am 1570 tacit Baltimore. We are Baltimore, positive, positively getting the Maryland crab cake tour out. I’m wearing my Costas gear because it’s sort of geared to it’s not really orange. It’s not really salmon. I think it’s sort of peachy. It’s apricot. I don’t know we can argue that, but it’s along the orange side, and we’re not going to be at Costas until maybe June, but we have a lot of Maryland crab cake tour stops, including pizza John’s and Essex. On Friday, we’re going to be playing a fitness in Timonium next week. Might be having a Costas crab cake before or after that, as well, as well as on Derby and Preakness at Costas. My wife and I are going to cost this in Timonium on Saturday night. Open invitation. Anybody wants to come watch the derby. We’ll be there about an hour before the derby. By the way, they run the derby at 651 just for anybody out there. Dick Girardi is going to be coming on. Greg share is going to be come on. Yeah, the son of Richard. Share the Greg share, it used to be on Bal that guy, he’s going to come on. He loves the derby. And I do have horses here in my in my Maryland treasures, but these are the acid tea courses. I will have the Maryland treasure scratch offs to give away. It’s been a lucky batch. Dr Steve got lucky last week at Koco’s, and we had some great guests. We were cost us two weeks ago. We were fadeleys before we’re going to be at faidley’s again on May 13 for the crab derby. Ivan Bates is going to come by and talk about law and order with me, so I’m looking forward to that he and I see each other around town. It’s like, I got to come on. So that’ll be cool, because people are yelling about that, and I have a bunch of political folks coming on, but this will be a baseball segment, because Luke Jones was at Oriole Park at Camden Yards on Tuesday night as the Orioles took sort of a weird 36 hours off, and they’re out signing autographs and all that stuff they get to do on that might be the only day of the year where they have a day off during a home stand in between a series where the game ends in the afternoon and they like, if they have kids, they get, like, a day and a half to kind of hang out with their wives, people they like, or just get some rest repack a bag, because they got to go to Yankee Stadium this week. Dude, I remember how you know this is and to see them sort of come to life a little bit, even if the ballpark is not what Don rovac and Katie Griggs wanted to be on any given night. It’s good to see him battle at a time where this thing could go sour. And I think everybody’s looking at the Yankees thing and saying, like they got to start playing some better ball. You and I got on them about the Red Sox 17 to one and the Red Sox Pu and their whole front office fiasco, and then you lose to them the bounce back important. Shane Boz, even more important. And, you know, Alonzo, I mean, just checking some boxes here. Rushman, you know, some things that have to start going right for them. At least. Helsley, for a night, it went right, and that’s a good thing against the last place Astros

Luke Jones  02:53

team, no question about it. I mean, it was a good way to start off a series. It’s not something that we’re going to make too much of. But they won, and they they beat a team that’s struggling. I think it is important to note that Houston came into this game. They’re a very strange, bad team, because they lead the American League and run scored, they can hit. It’s just their pitching has been awful. So you see that lineup, and it’s not the same lineup that it was a few years back. It doesn’t have the same depth to it. Certainly they’ve had attrition and some guys hurt and all that, but they still have Jordan Alvarez hitting second. They have Isaac parades. They have, still have al duvae, so there are still some names in that lineup that can hurt you. So I was encouraged by what I saw from Shane Boz. That’s dare I say, I don’t, I don’t want to say necessarily the first because he’s had a couple solid outings. But that, to me, was as close as saying, hey, that’s the Shane boss. I was excited about the Orioles acquiring, and I’m not making too much of it, he didn’t quite get through six innings. Some bad batted ball lock it with two outs in the sixth inning that that kind of prevented him from getting through six the pitch.

Nestor Aparicio  04:01

We’ll defend you. Because you already said, like, when they acquired him, you’re like, hey, let’s do a segment on boss. I think he can be a difference maker. And if you go back into the archives of Baltimore positive or YouTube, or wherever you follow us, X, you know, wherever it is, it’s sitting there that you were a defender of the acquisition of him, and listen, I’ll talk about the money, because I’ll talk about the money all day. I’m the one guy that can Fred Hollander is not allowed to talk about the money. Rob long is not allowed to talk about the money. Like there it’s literally you and I having honest conversations about where their resources, they’re very limited, but open for business resources go at a time when every nickel spent is important for them, that they make an investment in someone that wants to invest in them, which isn’t gun or Henderson or any of the Boris cuts, by the way, John McClane sends his love. I had Matt Thomas on with the Astros coming to town like you. And mafia down there. And you know, they’re talking baseball as well. And the Astros are the team that have not gone deep in on their career, but to bring him back. But they let guy Bregman, you know, guys gone right, all the pitchers, right. And then they invest in Hayter, the local boy here, Severna Park and another Severna Park. We had other we had a kid get drafted this weekend at Spaulding, right? So, so it’s been a good time around here for young people to be beyond mark to share in Cal Ripken, but, but the hater thing is an example of like, Oreo fans would love that, right? Local good, you know, like all that let out of the bullpen, and it’s like Oriole fans would have loved Corbin burns, right? But the Astros have been the other side of that to some degree of fiscal sanity, and so much so that John McClane, who’s an astro lover, has followed them since, you know Jimmy win and Joe Morgan and you know Nolan Ryan, all of that, right? Because I kid him about all of that, but he’s a real fanboy about the asteroid. He’ll still tell you they didn’t cheat that much. But he’s also an NFL Hall of Famer and a guy who covered bum Phillips and love you blue. And you know, everything that’s going on brought Super Bowls to Houston. He’s in every hall of fame there is, and he’s looking at this and saying, like, all right, it’s been a nice 10 year run, but it doesn’t run forever, but when the pitching runs out and the money’s not there, and the system isn’t what it was, and Elias and my Dell, where they’re shining stars with luno, and they’re all gone now in espada was going to be the manager here, and now they’re in last place. It’s a whole different I mean, look for me there have reiterated Astro ball and all of that stuff as to how it was going to work out here and how it worked out there, and what the expectations then become for where you allot your money. And Shane Boz is one of those things that, like they went in early on him, you went in early on him. And it isn’t about the money anymore. Now it’s about like, Dude, we’re, you’re an, is you have to be an, is you can’t be a, might be. And I mean, if he takes the ball 30 times this year and gives us anything like what we saw on Tuesday night, that would be a nice level of like I could live with that day in and day out, feeling like I might get that every fifth day.

Luke Jones  07:25

Yeah. I mean, that was much more of what they need. I mean, sure you’d like them to pitch a little bit deeper. That’s fine. It’s five and two thirds innings. I’m not doing cartwheels or throwing a parade for him, but he pitched better. And I think the thing that was interesting about it, and I’ll not going to get too far into the weeds here, but he’s been working on a sinker, and to this point in the season, he had not really thrown that, other than just as a show me pitch. I mean, you can go back and find him throwing it a couple times here and there. He threw that a good bit on Tuesday night, and I think he ended up throwing it 13% of the time, you know. And obviously his foreseen fastball percentage went down as a result. And I

Nestor Aparicio  08:04

And nobody’s looking for it, right,

Luke Jones  08:06

literally, right. I mean, like I said, I mean, he threw that. He threw that a little bit more against the Giants back in eight in early April. He he threw it just a couple times against the pirates and the twins his first couple outings. But he brought that out. And I think he talked about it after the game, because we asked him about it, and he thinks that just it gets hitters looking a little bit down in the strike stone. So then when he comes with either the four seam or the cutter, I think it gives you know, it kind of changes the eye level a little bit. And I think that makes that we’ve talked about the fact that he throws a fastball and can hit 9899 but hasn’t necessarily got a ton of swing and miss with it, but I think that’s something that can allow him to do that a little more so nice.

Nestor Aparicio  08:49

The stuff guy, right, always has been before, after, during, and he’s a thoughtful fellow, right? I mean, like, in a general sense, like, you know, he talks like a pitcher. I saw them interview him in the dugout when they’re not throwing seeds at each other and being jackasses and like, I get six or eight minutes during an inning in the dugout, which I’m against in every way, be it Diana Rossini or rob long or anyone I just it’s not my thing, but if they’re going to talk to him, that’s how I Get to know him a little bit. Won the broadcast, and it felt to me like the kind of guy look, you know, I I had a major league player out last week at Koco’s. I like sitting and talking to thoughtful big league players about all of these kinds of things. And I think the more of that for you and me, the better. We’re not in the bobblehead club or in the discount club or in the squirt me, and you know all you know, we’re we’re in the how can they win? And Shane Boz getting better, and then finding ways to take a guy who’s got all of the ability to have you jump on the table for him four months ago, have them pay. Him before he ever took the ball, based on what he did in Sarasota, just based on him being a guy that comes to work every day and has been through hard times, right with injuries and all of that, and the money’s nice, but to your point, I guess that was going to come unless his arm fell off, right? But there is a point where, like now, the money is not even the issue, or the roar of the crowd, or how angry Oriole fans can be. And I think Alonso is confusing the Oriole fans with Mets fans in regard to like, how harsh the criticism of rock Koco is going to be if he continues to hit sub Mendoza. It’s not that kind of place, but it’s a place where I think a guy like boss could really focus and be a guy we’re talking about three, four years from now, in that McGregor Flanagan, whatever the modern era. Chris Tillman, you know, whatever the modern era would be like, um, I don’t know what maybe Scott Erickson or even Ben McDonald were not. Jim Palmer, I’m not giving you that Sure. I’m not giving you Hall of Fame. I’m giving you, you know, a guy’s going to earn this money by having outings like that a lot, a lot, and being counted on three out of every four times to go out and give you something that looks like a night where your bullpen is not going to have to get up until eight o’clock, 830 for the early crowd, but I it’s so crucial that he’s a good signing

Luke Jones  11:28

for them. Yeah, I mean it absolutely is. I mean it. And as I pointed out to you at the time of the deal, a reminder for everyone who’s maybe hasn’t or doesn’t have the terms memorized five years, $68 million I mean, it really, if you go through the remaining years of club control, right? And we said this all,

Nestor Aparicio  11:48

Angelos money, it’s not a lot of

Luke Jones  11:51

it’s not this, it’s not this insane investment. It’s a real investment though. I mean, it’s a real investment, but it’s not this insane investment in terms of like they’re paying them number one starter money or number two starter money. I mean, money. I mean, honestly, you kind of look at the deal in terms of what they bought out in terms of years of free agency. It’s kind of a two year, $46 million deal. Now he has to pitch better than he’s pitched to this point a month into his Oreos career to feel better about that. But the point is this isn’t he needs to be a Cy Young candidate, or a guy that’s making all star games. To your point, can he at least settle into being a legitimate number three starter, right? I mean, that’s, I think that’s kind of what you’re hoping the minimum floor is for boss on this deal, right? Especially understanding that we’re talking about that money in 2029 and 2030 right? We’re still, can I

Nestor Aparicio  12:42

just say this? Because let’s not get into the weeds of this week or where they are in the standings. Let’s go back to the offseason, and they needed pitching help, right? We were all in agreement of that. We’re all okay. I’m buying in on Rogers. I did 92 wins. I bought in on Bradish, fine. You know, we bought in on Kramer as a fifth starter, right? That it wouldn’t be Sagana. Wasn’t going to be Suarez, but it was going to be something. And the something turned out to be, not Ranger Suarez, not any of the other crochets, any of the other things that were out there, or even crazy things they could have done with the Tigers, right? Like, you know, nothing blockbuster, but this was the acquisition. This was the targeted guy that we can get, give some players up, get him, and then sign him, and then he’s going to be a guy, not a dude, but a guy, but a guy who we’re going to have next year and the year after that, and the year after that, because the day after the deal happened, you were the first one saying, like, they gave up a lot to rent him, you know, but they’re not really renting them on the cheap, but it’s cheaper if they’re just renting a guy for a year than buying Chris Bassett. And we didn’t even know about Chris Bassett at that point, right? Like, I don’t even know what was the rotation at that. I guess efflin coming back was something that was also but like, at that tender point of whenever that was January, December, Christmas,

Luke Jones  14:11

late December, Boz

Nestor Aparicio  14:13

was a you liked it, but they need to do more, right? And the more turned out to be Bassett, the more turned out to be efflin springing in spring that felt good enough that you and I got on board on that Friday night start before opening day that felt like, wow, like, you know that’s their opening day starter, and he’s their five, and if he can give him 28 starts, hey? And that’s how I felt that all that’s gone, and we are where we are now, and Brandon Young’s making starts, and we’re hanging on. But the boss thing from a glue that holds this thing together for Elias, for the acquisition that he made, Rogers too. I mean, he gave up an all star outfielder for Rogers, right? But to and, you know, Bradish comes from another era and another time, and like all of that. But I want to say about Elias, pinning their hopes and their success, we talked a lot about a lot of these other guys, boss, it’s in the middle of this, back to the day after they gave him the money, which happened sort of on opening day. And we were talking about other things, and I think we talked about it and saying, Hmm, impressive. Mr. Big money pants is giving money out. But this is really about Elias being a true believer in the way that I think you were the morning after he got we got him that like this. This could be what we’re going to see here, and it is going to have to be, if they’re going to be a 92 win team,

Luke Jones  15:36

right, right? And again, I don’t want to make this a referendum. It’s not like His start was spectacular on Tuesday night, but it was better. It was more like the guy that you project, right? I mean, and, and just to clarify, I mean, this wasn’t a rental. I mean, he, he has two more years. He had two more years of club control after this year, right? So, so I just wanted to clarify that. But you look at it in terms of the investment you’re making? Yeah, they gave up some real prospects. I mean, not Adley rutsman in 2021 or gunner Henderson in 2022 but they gave up prospects here, a couple first round picks

Nestor Aparicio  16:10

from a year ago. They guys you’re going to have to go play against a year from now in Tampa,

Luke Jones  16:14

right at some point. In fact, the catcher, Caden Bodine, go, go. Look at his numbers. Albeit they’re at single a but he’s raking right now, so that that’ll be something that we’ll be keeping an eye on here over the next

Nestor Aparicio  16:25

five years. There’s another credit to Mike Elias and Eve Rosa, you know, like, like, Hey, man, give up something to

Luke Jones  16:30

get something. I mean, that’s always what we have to remember about these trades,

Nestor Aparicio  16:33

and you have to pay them when they arrive, which is where we are with Boss, right?

Luke Jones  16:37

Sure. Well, I mean, they didn’t have to pay him right now, but if you’re trying to limit that cost control. If he does pop in a way that you’re envisioning over the next few years, then you know, if he becomes

Nestor Aparicio  16:49

a legitimate Dude, it says true believer, is what it says to me, right?

Luke Jones  16:53

True Believer? I mean, if they didn’t, one, they wouldn’t have given up what they gave to get him, and two, they wouldn’t have extended him before he made his Orioles debut, right? So it’s clear what they think about him. So it’s just nice to see what he did Tuesday night again. He’s got to build on that I mentioned. For me, it was less about the results and more about the Hey. I like the fact that he used a sinker. I think that’s interesting to add into his repertoire. Everyone sees the high 90s fastball and the knuckle curve. I mean the knuckle curve, he gets swing and miss with when that’s good, he’s good. But I think to add something, to change things up, to make him less predictable, in terms of sequencing, in terms of where hitters are putting their eyes on any given pitch, I think that’s something that is capable of helping him and making him better. And you know, to your point, that you brought up, and look, I’ve talked to him a handful of times now in the last month. I don’t know him very well by any stretch of the imagination, but he is a guy that, you know, seems cerebral. He seems to have a good attitude in terms of behind the scenes and going about his work. You know, talking to a couple other guys in that clubhouse, seems to be someone that’s a little wise beyond his years, and in the way that he conducts himself, which

Nestor Aparicio  18:06

you like well, and I think that goes into them giving him money. Sure, he’s the kind of guy they like having around like,

Luke Jones  18:12

you know what I mean, but, but this is something where you look at it, and we’ve talked about it, I mean, they need better from him, they need better from Rogers. They need better from Bradish. Those are the upside guys, right? They that’s not to take, you know, that’s not to let Chris Bassett off the hook. He absolutely has to be better. He’s been really bad. But we also understand Chris bassett’s 37 years old. There’s not a whole lot of upside to extract from someone like that at this point in time. You’re, you’re trying to extract whatever’s left, whereas these other guys are guys especially talking about Bradish and Boz right? Rogers is in a contract here, so whether they’re going to extend him, or he’s going to stay or anything like that. I mean, that all of that’s to be determined. But in the case of Boz and Bradish, those are your upside guys. I mean, those are the guys that you need to be at least in the conversation when you’re talking about your one and your two, regardless of whether they’d be the one in the two. For other teams with better rotations, they need to be in that they need to be in that space. For you, you need to feel that way. I love the fact that you brought up Chris Tillman, for example, right? If Shane Boz can be some kind of version of what Chris Tillman was at his best in his best three years with the Orioles, that deal will be perfectly fine, right? That contract would be perfectly acceptable of looking at it through that lens, even though Chris Tillman was never a guy that got Cy Young votes or anything like that. So we’ll see it was good to see that it was good to see him pitch the way he did, you know, side or tied his season high and strikeouts was six. You know, very close to getting through six. I mean, a couple bleeders that, you know, just they had to go to the pen at that point in time. You know, real soft contact with two outs in the sixth. I know I asked him about that he was. Irritated about that. You know that that was just some bad luck right in that spot, but it was good to see. And like I said, I’m interested to see where he goes with the sinker usage now, and obviously a lot of that’s predicated on how many, what lineup are you facing? How many righties? Righties are in there? How many lefties? So he’s a work in progress when it comes to that pitch specifically, but it was interesting to see him break that out, especially on the heels of and I’ve talked about it, I haven’t been terribly impressed with how he’s pitched to this point, but I did like what I saw on Tuesday night, and you’re hoping that continues. And like I said, you could say it’s a last place team, but the Astros have swung the bat. I mean, they’ve scored runs. That has not been their issue. So was good to see that. And this, now maybe we talk a little bit about the offense. I mean, you mentioned it. Adley rutsman, this is, it’s early, right? And rushman is only played in 15 games. It’s 60 plate appearances. But man, I think he’d be hard pressed to find a 60 plate appearance stretch going back to July of 2024 that rut where rutsman has looked as good at the plate as he’s looked over this 60 plate appearances. So he needs to continue to do that, obviously. But that’s been encouraging to see we’ve talked about Sam beside Oh. Sam pasayo has an 801 ops at this point in time. No, he’s got the average up close to 250 he’s walking a little bit. He’s showing a good approach. I mean, one of the more refreshing things about Tuesday night’s game before Alonso hit the two run homer, but even that, they had a nice, nice approach, where they were going the other way. I mean, rushman going the other way. Bicyo had one gunner, Henderson, going the other way with his lead off single in the bottom of the first inning, and Alonso goes out to right center. I mean, that was not saying that that’s something that’s going to continue in mass, but it’s nice when pitchers are pitching you away, especially with two strikes. It’s nice to see you have the ability to do that. I mean, that’s something that has not necessarily been the case of what their approaches look like, especially going back the last couple years. So it’s good to see again, Astros can’t pitch. So I’m not going to just like I’m not going to make too much of the boss outing. I’m not going to make too much of the fact that the Orioles scored five runs against the worst pitching team in the in the American League. But I did like the approach, and it was great to see Alonso get into one. We talked about, we talked to him before the game. He made the comment. He said, Look, I’m feeling better with my at bats. The results aren’t coming yet, but I’m feeling better with my at bats. That was good to see. I mean, they Well, this is where, by the

Nestor Aparicio  22:40

way, Luke Jones is here. If you’re out on the radio dial, if you’re on the wnst tech service, you’ll get all the breaking news first brought to you by coal roofing and Gordian energy. And, of course, our partners at farn and Dermer. By the way, I’ve had Zach on this week, and he asked me more about the lock and for April Fool’s story. So I had to tell him some stuff about that, because it’s been like a month since I’ve had him on, and I needed him to come out and fix my plate. Out and fix my plumbing and do all that stuff. So I had Alan on, and I just want to interrupt you about Alonzo, because you’re on a roll about one game, and then they’re going to play these two quick ones against the Astros, and then they go, and then it’s on to New York, right? And I think at least on my Facebook and when I put up things, it was a it was a big win for them on Tuesday, as I said, just to kind of get their confidence back, they got two games, two quick ones, like the way they did last weekend with the Red Sox, and got their ass kicked. Right? This Yankee thing’s big this weekend in that they hold their own. You know, I don’t need to see them sweep the Yankees in the Yankee Stadium. I just can’t have them get swept and a two and two. Fine, one and three. No bueno. Yeah, bring in one some hope. I think they sense. This is a big series in when you only get so many blows at number one, and you know you’re going to be chasing them like it’s like the horse races, but you know you’d be chasing them around the track the whole way. You know this, right? And I do think psychologically, you and I pretty depressed. Alan and I were pretty depressed. I had John McLean on. He’s depressed. He’s an Astros fan and a Texans guy. He went on, we haven’t played in an AFC Championship game since 1979 and I’m like, Whoa, that’s longer than 83 so, you know, like, there is this thing where, if the baseball season is to disintegrate, we go into football season, and we have other things we could talk about. I don’t want it to disintegrate any more than I wanted to Preakness to disintegrate when I’m talking about it this week. Alonzo rushman, I Richmond, I’ll give you baz. We just did 20 minutes on boss. Let’s just keep keep to the lineup itself, because holiday can’t help them. He’s not here and you know, but Tyler O’Neill in the lineup, and who’s making 20 million a year or whatever, like these guys that have been paid, signed, delivered, they have. Have to, like, show up even more so than Kobe mayo, or even more so than Colton cows, or who they’re counting on. But because none of us really count and Colton cows are none of us are looking at that and saying he’s going to save the team. Maybe he could save him for a weekend. Maybe one weekend, he could go seven for 12 with three home runs and drive in eight runs and they beat the Yankees up this. I mean, maybe, I mean, he’s capable of that, right? They, I guess they all are, which is why they’re here. All of them, Mayo is capable in five home runs this weekend. A Yankee, they all are. That’s why they’re in the lineup to some degree. Maybe, you know, Blaze Alexander isn’t that guy, or maybe even Leo Torres, Tavares, the Jeremiah Jackson, these guys that have been fringe guys, but for Alonso to eat up and rush me to eat up, that’s what’s going to be absolutely foundationally necessary. And when I talk to Alan about this a little bit, the Alonso thing is interesting, because when we talk about all of these players, and I want to leave this with you, because this is when it’s fun with you and me and Alan get together. Um, rushman. We can bet on all of this, right? I can go and bet, bet, bet like Barney Rubble, bad bet. I could bet on whether rushman is going to turn this around or not, and I could bet on whether cows are going to turn this around or not. I think Henderson is going to be fine, right you? And I believe that. I think Alonzo is one of those guys that when he’s hitting the buck 80, and it’s going bad, and the weather’s cold, and he’s hearing echoes of not just he’s hearing echoes of the Polo Grounds and Shea Stadium and, you know, you know, and Citi Field and New York and tabloids and like bright lights and all of that. And Steve Cohen. I don’t think any of that chases him around here when the stadium’s empty, and maybe somebody cat calls him off the off the on deck circle, but I doubt it. I sat down there. I don’t think anybody’s out there to boo the Oriole. I don’t think that that that quality of fan even exists so much around here anymore, other than the call over at the fan and yell at yell at Ed Norris or something, I don’t know, but I feel like there’s going to be more oxygen here. And the Alonso thing is like, I feel like I’m going to wake up in August and he’s going to have 19 home runs and 74 RBIs, and he’s going to have won a couple of games. He’s going to have a couple of games like Tuesday night where he, you know, really hits the ball and in a victory,

Nestor Aparicio  27:24

I’m not worried about him, so therefore I’m not writing letters to him online or criticizing the money or the contract, or even Elias for signing. And they had to do something, and if I were to write to him, and I think I’m going to gently this weekend. Dear Pete, welcome to Baltimore. Have I ever told you about the time that I wrote Glenn Davis around Baltimore, the first year I was on radio, hurry, I’ve never mentioned this to you. Have I you have not. Okay, so I worked at the paper in the 80s. You were a little boy. What you’re our educational resource here, tell everybody about the Glenn Davis trade and what it meant to the team and how on you were five years old, and you know how what a big deal

Luke Jones  28:05

this is. I was seven. So they traded Steve Finley, Pete Harnish and Curt Schilling, and I’ve

Nestor Aparicio  28:13

heard of those guys. Yeah,

Luke Jones  28:14

yeah, you’ve heard a lot about those guys. I mean, even Pete Harnish, who was the worst of the three had, was a pretty good player for X fans.

Nestor Aparicio  28:22

Remember Pete Harnish? Yeah, yeah, so.

Luke Jones  28:25

But there was just such a thought of, man, you can put something. This was going to be Eddie Murray returning to the lineup, hitting behind Cal Ripken. I mean, that’s really what it was. A couple years

Nestor Aparicio  28:34

later, he did 40 home runs in the Astro dass dude, which was

Luke Jones  28:38

like, and everyone thought, wow, you know, he’s going to be at Memorial Stadium for a year, and it’s going to be the slugger to put in the cleanup spot when they’re going downtown to the new ballpark and all of that. And it was an absolute disaster. He got hurt, and it was just

Nestor Aparicio  28:54

so I’ve never in all of the wine and the beer we’ve drank on the road and fun we’ve had, and 20 years of knowing each other, I’ve never had this car because I wanted to write about this. And I feel like sometimes I can be reiterative. So I’m working at the paper when all this goes down, and I am Ken Rosenthal’s understudy, so therefore I’m up every night putting a paper out about Glenn Davis. I was not a sports radio listener. So this is the era of Jeff Rimmer? Probably, yeah, it was definitely Jeff Rimmer. Yeah, I was the era of Rex Barney there, Stan Charles after the games, and that’s it. I mean, like not even Joshua Lewin or Greg share, who’s coming on my show this week. So I want to give Katie and Don and mark a little history lesson here. Joshua doesn’t need a history lesson, because he knows I’ve lived it. So does, so does Vivian. By the way, Viviana is coming next week. Viviano has insisted on coming to Timonium, so I guess he’s probably going to go over to Costas. He’s got a little side, you know, size ulterior motive, to go with a crab cake for the family. But viv’s coming out to Planet Fitness. On Thursday. So I’m looking forward to that. So also doing a big AI segment on that. So Glenn Davis, Glenn Davis, in 19. I want to Google this, so I’m getting the dates right, because I like, I can totally whatever the transaction was. It was an 8990 I’m loosely

Luke Jones  30:19

getting would have been December of 90, or either December of 90.

Nestor Aparicio  30:22

You can Google it while I talk about it. How about that? So you can get the facts right down to Houston and how much money he was making and where it all went, and they were moving Memorial Stadium that the fantastic fans that had happened, oh and 20, wanted to happen before they’re transitioning this. They still have the Washington market. Peter Angelos is suing, is fighting with somebody in Greektown and running a bar, literally. So Glen Davis became public enemy number one pretty quickly, because it didn’t go well from jump, it just never he came here and it just didn’t go well. So and everything went well. Curt Schilling was a little further along the line. But it’s very obvious that that Finley and Harnish could play. We had been through the 89 season, and why not. And like all of that, 1991 December 13 of 1991 so my year into the Glenn Davis era Luke at that point? Yeah, what did he hit in 1990

Luke Jones  31:26

9191 91 well, he, just to give a little bit of context here, he played for about three weeks, two weeks, I guess it was two and a half weeks, and he was hurt, and he didn’t come back till August. I mean, he was hurt. What he had? The was it the neck issue? I think he had at that point. It was a

Nestor Aparicio  31:42

was a trapezius eventually,

Luke Jones  31:44

but, but he did. He did not come back until the the third week of August. So he finished his first year with the Orioles hitting, 227, 307, on base, percentage, 460, slug. He only had 10 home runs, but he only played.

Nestor Aparicio  31:58

What’s really cool was I noted Alonzo is a huge baseball historian, huge my Roberta Clemente guy told me all about this. He donates to the museum up there. So, and I’ve not met Pete Alonso, but I think Pete Alonso would like me immensely if we got some time together. Talked about my Aparicio family name and a little bit of oral history and more about Jim Palmer and Brooks Robinson and whatnot. But nonetheless, um, nonetheless, and Mike Flanagan, which he should know about too. Everybody should know about Mike Flanagan. I’m not gonna let that story die. But nonetheless, Len Davis is public enemy number one on sports radio. Kenny Albert comes to me. Kenny Albert, by the way, did you just see the celebration for Kenny? Did you see that online that he is now called more games than anybody in the history. He just passed Dick Stockton, wow, for like so. So Kenny, Kenny is doing skip Jack games, and I’m at the paper, and Kenny says, Nestor, gonna do a New York style radio program. You want to be my co host. And Coleman’s running around at the time. And so this is the winter of 91 December 13 of 91 I’d have to get the date. Luke, okay, but like the date is sometime between December 13 of 1991 and opening day of 1992 I don’t know what that date would have been. I can tell you this, we tried to get great guests. I mean, Kenny would get, you know, forget Joe Buck, he would get his father on. You know what? I mean, like, we would get New York. Kenny would get his father on. We would get guests out of New York. Kenny would drop names and, like, we would break news we were big, you know, like, we wanted to make a career out of this. So did Jerry Coleman. So like all three of us at that time, and somehow, some way, Glenn Davis agreed. Maybe Bill stecca was involved. Maybe Rick Vaughn was involved. I don’t remember. Maybe Bob Miller. They all knew me from the paper, right? I mean, I was on the phone with these people every night of my life getting stats from Bob Miller off the game for Ken Rosenthal’s notes from Comiskey Park at three o’clock in the morning from Angel Stadium at two o’clock in the morning from Oakland. They didn’t play the National League back then, youngster, so there was no Candlestick Park calls. But there was that one night during the World Series where Rosenthal called in from the pay phone. That was in 89 but in 91 I’m Aparicio. I’m doing a radio show with Kenny Albert on the skip Jax radio network at AM, W, i, t, h, am 1230 Glenn Davis agreed to come to the studio and do the show, and he came to the studio, first off, a real Christian man, and a man who’s lived his life, took the money that, whatever 510, 12, million, they gave him back then, whatever you could tell me the numbers they they it sounds like it sounds like dog litter at this point, right? It sounds like he was making two. Point 8 million a year. It was something like that. Maybe it was 3.6 or something, but three 3.27 There you go, baseball. Ref, there you go, Okay, three months, but that was big money back and getting taxed during the Clinton era. So there you go. You Republicans.

Luke Jones  35:14

That was so big money then, though, actually it was the

Nestor Aparicio  35:16

Bush era. That point. Bush, right? Daddy. Bush, Glen Davis sat in the studio for an hour and a half, took phone calls from angry callers, and he’s a bit of an all shucks guy, and a guy who probably curses, you know, even less than you. And on the way out, he needed a ride, he said, I took a cab over here. Can you give me a ride? And I got my car was raining out as cold as hell too. I think it was like this might have been the end of January or February, and it might have been the following winter. Okay, because it was a winter, it wasn’t in season at all. It might have been the next year, because I had that was the year I got into the locker room and I got to know players who he might have known me better, but I don’t think so. I think I didn’t know him at all. Matter of fact, I in my mind, come on, it’s been 35 years. I’ve never even told this story, but I remember him getting in my car and just being the nicest man and me having a different vibe about him and hurt players once I met hurt players and saw what they go through, and saw messina’s arm on ice every night, saw Sutcliffe coming in with three beers, by the way, for if you didn’t see Eric Davis out in Cal Ripken is drinking a 12 pack after games. That was a pretty good podcast. You might want to go back and check that one out. But nonetheless, Glen Davis had a trapezius issue that, like when he took his shirt off, you could see it. And Brady Anderson and I had such a relationship then that I have a lot of players, the late great, Cheeto, Martinez and just a lot Ben was in that locker room, Sutcliffe, Elrod. I mean, a lot of good people, good baseball people, one of which I had on this week came a little later, Jamie Moyer and I did 35 minutes on pitching and mental state and, like, just change ups, just Jamie Moore and I went at it this week. But Glenn Davis, it changed my mind about him and what kind of person he was and what he was trying to do. But I was in that locker room where guys were like, I remember Brady and I having a real, like, dinner conversation about, he’s like, dude, his trapezius is just disappeared. It’s like his muscles are two different. It’s like, it’s not because he’s not trying. It’s not about the money. It’s not about Kenny. He used to be able to do it. Now he can’t do it, and he never really did it again, and he was the big hope for the the franchise, and then Chris Davis and I could just drop the mic and let you talk about Chris Davis. I mean, what the city did to Eddie Murray on a racial level and like, that’s all well documented, but like these great hopes that come to town, nobody’s ever gotten more money than Pete Alonso. So if I’m doing sports radio and just barking about money and the investment and all of that, it’s the money they didn’t give to Machado. And I think I said that to McLean when he was yelling about the Astros guys not giving money, and as much as Henderson’s gonna bloom and all of that, the pressure on Pete Alonso, who I just said all of those nice things about Glenn Davis, and I didn’t really know Chris Davis at all. I wasn’t given that opportunity to know any of those players, but to have this history and to give all this money to this guy. I don’t know how long he’s allowed to hit 200 and not be productive. But I think when Alan and I get together, and if you and me and Alan got together, the astute people in the room would look at him the same way I looked at Glenn Davis 40 years ago, and thought, he’ll be fine that I feel like with Alonzo. I can’t get critical until I see the body of work to some degree, because, like, I think he’s in his and I don’t think I need to be writing your underperforming boo to him, because I think he’ll be fine. I mean, the other guys I’m over, the guys who’ve never done it Jackson holiday, the guys who might never do it again, Jordan westburg, the guys that have been on a MEL carton, rushman, cowser, Mayo, pisayo, who’s still young, I’m way more worried about those guys to talk about it than I am worried about Pete. Alonso, well,

Luke Jones  39:34

I think there’s criticism in the micro and the macro right, short term criticism, immediate criticism, for that night or that series or that week, or, in this case, his first month. He’s been bad his first month, let’s call spade a spade, but because he has a track record, that is why he’s here in the first place. Right? They didn’t give him a five year 150 $5 million contract, but on hopes and dreams. It’s based on what he did with the Mets for going back to 2019 so yeah, he he’s worthy like he how he’s played is warranted criticism, as far as at the plate now, he’s been better than I would have thought, defensively, as much as we’ve criticized their defense, he’s been good defensively. Problem is they didn’t pay him $155 million

Nestor Aparicio  40:20

things are not losing like seven and 21 they’re not firing managers the way they are in Philadelphia and Boston and Right, right? I mean, they don’t have turmoil here yet. And if turmoil settles in, like it’s did in the Glendale, I mean, the Glen Davis era, turmoil settled in as they made the move to Camden Yards, and after 89 it all went to hell in a hand basket because of that deal. So I took phone calls for years, dude, in your childhood, you know, until 96 happened, I took phone calls for those five years about Glenn Davis. Glen Davis, Glen Davis in the same way that I still have Don Muller’s Facebook thing if they don’t sign, Chris Davis, I’m done with the Orioles

Luke Jones  41:04

and a lot of people who said that, right? A lot of people, you know the revision, the revisionist history on Chris Davis,

Nestor Aparicio  41:12

well, this is where it’s important for Alonso, that if I were writing a DR Pete Alonso letter, I would say, Dude, people like Luke and me and Don Mueller and everybody before us, we got the long history on everything from Jim Gentile and pub pal forward. You know what I mean? Like, we’ve seen it all here. I’ve seen the EARL WILLIAMS deal go bad. I’ve seen pitchers go bad. I’ve seen managers go bad. I’ve seen ownership go bad. And, like, I’m not going to be the guy on the radio beating up on Pete Alonso because Glenn Davis got in my car 40 years ago. And I understand how heavy the load is when you get paid, yeah, but all and when it hurts and you’re trying to play, I agree that.

Luke Jones  41:51

Said he needs to be better, and he knows that, right? He’s the first one I was.

Nestor Aparicio  41:57

He was the guy at the locker that night, right?

Luke Jones  41:58

You were what it was

Nestor Aparicio  42:00

five days ago, 10

Luke Jones  42:01

days into the season, whatever it was, where it was. I mean, it was very much like I appreciated his candor, but it was one of those things where I felt like, just as a baseball fan, not not, not even as an Orioles reporter or an Orioles fan, just as a someone who knows baseball, I would be like, Dude, it’s 10 games into the season. You’re fine. Like, don’t be so hard on yourself, right? But really, that’s how it was. But that shows that shows you he cares, right? Of course, you want a guy to care. And everything you just said, I don’t, you know, I don’t disagree with any of that, all that being said, they signed him to be a force multiplier for them in terms of the numbers he puts up, but also easing the pressure on gunner Henderson and on Adley rutschman and on Samuel besayo and Dylan beavers. And you you were hoping Jordan westburg and Jackson holiday, and we’ll see if and when those guys are back. You know, holiday should be back at some point. Westburg, who knows, but you know, Kobe Mayo go down the list of when you have someone that you can pencil in, 35 home runs, 100 RBIs, 280 average that you know that just that’s less production you have to worry about getting from these unknowns. I mean, your point in terms of the big picture

Nestor Aparicio  43:20

is alive and well, he’s an elected city councilman. Is he really in Columbus?

Luke Jones  43:24

It’s funny having just, I gotta

Nestor Aparicio  43:27

go find him, man. I what he just, it’s funny. I know in your childhood, he was a baseball card, right? Yeah, he was just a good man. Glenn Davis had, man,

Luke Jones  43:37

so it’s interesting. He, I’m trying to think this was heat, along with storm Davis,

Nestor Aparicio  43:44

who was also a good man pub one,

Luke Jones  43:47

I forget what it was called. It was actually a Christian music and like they had some motivational speakers, dude, people, no, no, it was, was where was it? Was it at the arena? I mean, you have to, I beg for a little bit of forgiveness here. I’m seven years old at the time. But they had something. It was in the offseason. And they had music, they had motivational speakers. They had like these, these guys that were like power lifters, that ripped phone books, but they gave their testimony. It was called, like, power jam or something like that. He might have been

Nestor Aparicio  44:24

promoting that on my shows.

Luke Jones  44:26

There you probably why,

Nestor Aparicio  44:28

dude, if I have a tape, but I went Davis Mike.

Luke Jones  44:31

I went to that with, I don’t know if it was people from my church, or may have been with my uncle and my cousins, like, you know, my dad went, like a bunch of us went. My family may have been from church, maybe might have just been some extended family, but, but he did that. But it’s funny looking, having just looked at his baseball reference page, it reminds you how much of the issue was much more him being hurt than him just being plain bad. Now, let me be clear, go look at his numbers with the Orioles they. Weren’t anything what anyone had hoped or projected or envisioned him being, but that that nerve issue in his trap, like that happened in spring training, his first couple weeks with the Orioles, right that happened in spring training, and then he made it through late April, and he was on the disabled list, the rest of you know, until August. So I look, no one’s going to go back and remember that fondly.

Nestor Aparicio  45:25

Well, I’ll tell you what, man, I just sent a text to Rick Vaughn, the Vaughan, or the wild thing, and I said, I’m on the radio telling Glenn Davis stories, and realized it’s probably time to have you back on and Charles Steinberg is going to get a heater from me as well, because I just but there is a point for the Katie Griggs is in the Don robacks and the Craig Albernaz is to understand the history of the fandom here and understand for Pete Alonso, like I think there’s plenty of oxygen on a 500 team right now that’s been abused by injuries, right and Bad defense. I’ll pub continue to point that out. And an under achievement across the roster, literally, there’s no one Helsley, by the way, I’m putting him on the good side if he’s doing a good you know, like I’m trying to find guys on the team that I feel like they’re setting the standard right now, maybe rushman. The last couple you know, rushman’s gone

Luke Jones  46:18

to life. Rushman has been really good. Taylor Ward hasn’t hit home runs, but his numbers overall are really I mean, he’s walked more than he struck out. He’s leading the league in doubles with 13. I mean, he he’s got a 426, on base percentage. Taylor Ward is and that’s an all star candidate. Yeah, that’s even speaking as someone who didn’t love the trade, not because I had this irrational affinity for Grayson Rodriguez. It was more you’re trading multiple years of club control for Grayson Rodriguez, who may or may not figure it out at some point and be healthy over the next few years for one year of Taylor ward. That was the that was my disagreement with the trade, not to trade him. It was, did you get enough in return? But a month into it, which, you know, Grayson Rodriguez still not pitching for the angels, that it’s looked great, right? And so Taylor Ward’s been really good, besides, looked excellent over the last 10 days, and he’s going to have some struggles, right? He’s 21 we understand that you’re starting to see him look like the guy that everyone across baseball that follows the minor leagues evaluates prospects, has these prospect lists. That’s why people were comparing him to Jordan Alvarez, whether he becomes Jordan Alvarez or not. Like, you know, pump the brakes on that.

Nestor Aparicio  47:31

Well, this is why I’m not freaking out about the first 10 or 20 games of the

Luke Jones  47:34

season, right? So, so there are positives here that said Pete Alonso’s hitting under 200 even, even after his home run on Tuesday night, he has to be better. Gunner Henderson has a sub 300 on base percentage. He’s hit home runs, but he’s got to do more than that, right? So there are certainly things that have not gone well and things that need to be better. There’s no question about it. This team has been mediocre. Let’s just call a spade a spade for a month. It’s mediocre. They’re a game under 500 they’re not terrible. They’re not good either.

Nestor Aparicio  48:06

But here come the Yankees, and don’t bury yourself.

Luke Jones  48:09

No doubt, right? No doubt about it. I’m in perfect agreement with you. I don’t need to see them win the series in the Bronx, but they can’t get swept, right? You want to at least come away with the split, because we’ve talked about the Yankees, you and I have barely mentioned the Tampa Bay Rays are also playing very well right now. And you look at them in the standings, you don’t want to be in a position where, if this weekend goes sideways in the Bronx that you’re looking up and you’re seven or eight games back of the Yankees, and you’re six games back of the rays at that point in time. So there needs to be some urgency on the short term. Again, we’re talking micro versus macro in a big picture sense. I’m not I’m not giving up on this season by any means. In the short term, they’ve got to start playing better.

Nestor Aparicio  48:57

There’s if it’s going to be a big season. This is a week for them to play better base. Yeah, that’s exactly whatever they have. Whoever’s in Brandon, young it’s not going to be efflin. It’s not going to be holiday this week. It’s not going to be westburg next month. Whoever’s in Mayo, cowser, let’s go. Let’s go. O’Neill, let’s go.

Luke Jones  49:15

They got to play better defensively. Hey, I actually beavers misplay earlier in the game aside, they actually played, made some nice plays in the field on Tuesday night. Again, it’s one game in the same way that we were crushing them for what happened against the Red Sox. Nice to see them win Tuesday night. Go win a series.

Nestor Aparicio  49:33

Now, I want to see a week where, all they only have three missed plays, not where they do three at night, and when they cut it down to one a night. We’re okay with

Luke Jones  49:40

I made the comment. I’ll leave you with this. I made the comment the other day talking to someone else who covers the team. I said, Orioles defense, where every routine play is tough and every tough play is impossible. I mean, like, that’s what it feels like right now, but you can’t win like that. It’s, it’s really tough. They’ve they’ve got, they’ve got to find a way to play better. Defense. They’re not going to be a good defensive club. We know that,

Nestor Aparicio  50:02

but they, they’ve got the way, Alan and I did a deep dive into your accusations of Mike Elias. You know, we don’t call him a jackass around here. We just say he doesn’t take defense seriously. And Alan and I had a chat about that,

Luke Jones  50:15

yeah, I don’t know how you could argue otherwise.

Nestor Aparicio  50:16

I mean, well, this is the thing where, like, back in the day, Glenn Davis would come sit in my studio and talk about bringing acrobats out to, you know, educate to bring his religion to kids like you when you’re seven years old, the freaking General Manager fires the manager and hides for four days. So like, I we’re in a different era here of accountability for the whole franchise, where they let the Caucasian reporter in, but don’t let the Hispanic reporter and who owns the place, so, like, I don’t know what to say, other than we sit here and make accusations or say this or say that, or hold them accountable when they sit in the dugout like he did on Friday night and holds court every couple of weeks about whatever he feels like for the people that can fit into the dugout at that particular moment. And look, the Ravens do it the other way. They put up bars and gates and tell you, you get question number eight and like all of that. So I don’t lose any but the transparency part of what they are and what they’re trying to recruit, in regard to filling the ballpark up, in regard to creating interest around the team, in regard to their biggest star, batting sub Mendoza right now, and I could be the Jackass taking phone calls, crushing them all day. That’s not I don’t think that’s who we are, not you and me or the city or the fan base, but I do think like there is a different level of expectation now that Angelos is gone and they’ve been a winning team in and around two years ago, and that even people like me that they mistreat, holy mistreat, think they can win 92 games and can go on the radio and say that every day and bring it with conviction that, you know, I’m a believer that they’re trying harder, spending more doing that. I’m also a believer that I don’t know what their plan is, and that there’s any transparency in any of this, or what they’re doing with their television network, or how they’re getting people there behind beyond bobble heads, and how much it costs to go on a Saturday night, or to send you and your family down to see Nelly next week, or why Nellies there? And I don’t whatever like, I’d like to sit and talk about all of that, but, you know, it’s more about their minor league farm report on Masson or whatever. In the 30 minutes they give this before games, there’s just a lot that they’re trying to sell, that they’re trying to get over with, and really just trying to and I would just say this, if I’m in the room with Katie Griggs, I should have some honest conversations with Katie Griggs, with my clone online. It’d be funny, but you’re trying to get interest back, and the only way that’s going to happen, and Luke’s told me this 1000 times, you got to win, and it’s being 500 is not going to do that. Being sub 500 is not going to do that, and beating up the players that are here, from my perspective, because they made a lot of money. I’m glad we talked about Glenn Davis today. I may talk more about Glenn Davis, because this does remind me. You know, he’s he does need to do more and all of that. I just believe He’s the least of their worries right now. And I think Alan and I said that this week, like I’m worried about I gotta mama got a lot more things on her mind. And then, you know that, then the sure thing. And I think Alonzo will be fine. If we’re going

Luke Jones  53:15

to worry about Pete Alonso a month in, and again, worrying about him long term, compared to how he’s played for a month, he’s played poorly. He’d be the first to tell you that he hasn’t hit. But if we’re going to worry about that, boy, it’s going to be a long five years.

Nestor Aparicio  53:29

Accountability was never Glenn Davis’ issue.

Luke Jones  53:31

We’re not at that. I hope, right? Yeah, we’re not talking about that in those terms. I hope it’s not another Chris Davis, but until he starts hitting, hey, they need to win, and PE Alonzo hitting at a much higher clip would go a long way towards helping them. So yeah, in the micro, criticism is warranted. In the big picture, I’m with you. I would think he’s going to

Nestor Aparicio  53:53

be okay, as we argue about whether Mike Costas shirt is salmon or good color, regardless it’s, it’s on the orange or side of, like, if it’s, if I’m really getting full color up, it’s more peach ish than it is pinkish, if you get up. But Pete had this. There’s like, the management shirt, and they gave it to me. It’s a little large, but it’s nice. So, you know, oh, there we go. I want everybody to know of my orange heart, you know, for the Orioles here, and wanting them to not flop in the Bronx this weekend, right? We’re doing a lot of horse racing. Everybody get get out to cost us and support horse racing here this weekend, the Derby’s out. Get yourself a crab cake. Bet on the races. Put on a pretty hat. We’ll be at a cost this after about 536 o’clock. The race is at 651 on Saturday nights. I want to promote that. Also on Friday, we’ll be at Pizza John’s all afternoon. Man, I got the best guests coming on this show. I’ve had major league players. I got a former NFL player coming out next week. I’ve got like stuff happening here. I got politicians. I’ve got local leaders. I’ve got business people. I got. Friends, I got broadcasters. We’re doing the crab races down at Fayette Lee’s on the 13th. And I have Maryland treasures scratch offs to give away, all courtesy the Maryland lottery. Our friends at GBMC. Also a lot of guests coming on, based on I got my walk a mile in their shoes shirt. I got to start putting that on next week as well. It’s t shirt. It fits me a little little more brisk. I’m at Planet Fitness next week working out as well. That is on the seventh and I’m looking forward to that, because Mark Viviana is going to join me in Timonium on that. And we’re also going to do a special things for for Captain Trey and my dude at AI, Dennis o’donovans, gonna join me from profit cops. We’re gonna talk some AI 13th. We’re Alex in the market faidleys. And finally, on the 21st we the fishmonger’s daughter Damien’s getting the place open. I had a few drinks over there and a delicious cheeseburger last week as well. They say, Well, why are you going there? Not getting the crab cake? I’m like, get the crab cake at faylie’s on the 13th, I’m gonna go to fishmonger’s daughter. I’m gonna get the things out there that I can’t get. And they built this special table for me, Luke right in the front Frederick road. It’s going to be, it’s going to be my Baltimore positive, looking out at Bill’s music, looking over at El Guapo in the basement. It’s going to be my new scene setting spot in Catonsville. So Damien’s worked hard for it. So the 21st we’re going to be out in Catonsville, Mafia is going to be out. I got Tom quirk coming out. I got Mandy REMM, who’s running for council, person out there. It’s a bunch of other Catonsville stuff that’s going to happen that day. So I’m probably going to try to tie UMBC and maybe get Pete coringey out to the new spot. I got to tell him fade these crab cakes being served now at the fishmonger’s daughter in Catonsville. And they’re all going to come running out on the afternoon of the 21st so, and I will have Marilyn lottery scratch offs as well. Luke. I don’t know what else with the Orioles, other than to try to remain optimistic, right? Can I just say that?

Luke Jones  56:52

Keep winning like they won a game Tuesday. Keep winning. Don’t have these, don’t have these wins that give you hope, and then you lose three of your next four, right? I mean, they’ve got to start stacking wins. It’s that simple. Otherwise, it’s just who they are, right? They’re a middling game above, game below, two games below 500 ton a team, until they show otherwise, that’s what they’ve been, and it’s hard to argue against that. But nice win, you know, regardless, Nice win Tuesday night. You hope you can build on it. All right?

Nestor Aparicio  57:20

At some point around here, we’re going to you’ll hear Jamie Moyer, who joined me this week. We’ve just done like so many cool pieces. They’ve been all over the place. One of my favorite all time rock stars, Kurt Newman of the bodines. Bodines are playing next week in Annapolis. You’ll hear that around here. John McClane join me from Houston. Greg share is going to come on. Dick Girardi, we’ll talk some, some horse racing. Tim Wendell is going to be here as well. And if you’ve been listening on AM 1570 you’ve heard Dr Steve Ellie from familiar chiropractic and I get after it. Also Katie joined us from the American Diabetes Association. They’re doing their big walk next week down at Harbor Point. Todd Schuler came on and talked about law and order and Essex and the Preakness and the Preakness at Laurel. We also had Andy Koco’s on welcomed us with Katie Grasmick. They talked about something near and dear to my heart, which is LLS also at Casper wells, former major league baseball player from Schenectady via Towson, married to a Bel Air girl, now living locally and working with Heller kowitz. At some point, Brian kowitz is going to come back from Kansas City and talk to me about the weather, as well as some baseball as well. Gary adornado. Do you know Gary adornado is Luke? Should I? Gary has run high school sports for 40 years. Here. He worked at the sun a million years ago digital sports. I know you know that. And like so, Gary came out and we talked about high school sports for half an hour last week at Koco’s So and Carrie’s, like one of my original when I had my notebook when I was Hi.

Speaker 1  58:49

My name is Nestor Aparicio, and I’m here in Essex to cover this for the Dundalk high and the Dundalk eagle and the Essex times and the eye and the eagle and the avenue and Ken Coldwell.

Nestor Aparicio  59:01

So that was me, and I met Mike Preston back then, and Gary lambrick back then. So Gary adonato and I go back 40 years, if you read Purple Rain one, and I know you have Luke. He actually did all my typesetting for that. So it’s great to get him a crab cake and get him out of Koco’s I had, I had Marcella on, and we talked about crab cakes, and all the ways that I destroy them and bring them home and make them into crab melts, which I did all last weekend. So shout out to all of our sponsors, farden and Dermer, also keeping us in business around here, HVAC, plumbing. Zach came on this week. We talked about all sorts of fun things, because he loves the Orioles and the Ravens. We had some fun. I am Nestor. He is Luke. We’re after it all week long, baseball, football, mini camp, new ravens, 11 new birds. And at some point we’ll get a schedule, but we do know they’re playing in Rio. I’m working on my Samba. Back for more. It’s Baltimore positive. Stay with us. You.

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