After Joe Burrow and the Bengals marched up and down the field at will on Sunday in Cincinnati, Luke Jones and Nestor discuss the deficiencies of the Ravens’ defense and the problems young Jayden Daniels and the Washington Commanders will present for defensive coordinator Zach Orr this week in Baltimore.
SUMMARY KEYWORDS
Ravens defense, Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson, Marcus Williams, Roquan Smith, pass rush, dual threat, defensive struggles, offensive identity, Jayden Daniels, tackle issues, Joe Flacco, Kurt Warner, Tom Brady, Patrick Mahomes
SPEAKERS
Luke Jones, Nestor Aparicio
Nestor Aparicio 00:01
Welcome home. We are W N, S T tous, Baltimore, Baltimore, positive a what a week ahead we have not just my birthday, Luke’s birthday, we’re giving away Raven scratch, Austin. The Maryland lottery will be at Pizza John’s on Friday afternoon. What time? I don’t know. Anytime there’s pizza there. I’ll be there all afternoon. We doing some radio, doing some video, doing some podcast. Leonard raskins Birthdays this Friday, so he’s coming by for his birthday as well. He had a crab feast the other night. We’ve been at Costas. We’ve been at fadelies, and we’re about to take the show back out on the road with the oyster tour as well. Brought to you by our friends at Liberty. Pure solutions, one 800 clean water. They keep your water clean anything plumbing, anything well water, especially they do great our friends at Royal farms power us up, as well as Jiffy Lube, a multi care getting Luke back and forth to owing smells where there will not be any complaining, bitching, looking backward at the Cincinnati game. So we’ll do it right now. We appraise the special teams to some degree, certainly the offense and what’s happened there. I think we’ve been appropriately critical of Coach Harbaugh and timeouts and clock management and the fact that they were losing by 10 points twice in the fourth quarter and made that comeback, but they were losing by 10 points twice in the fourth quarter because they couldn’t stop a nosebleed, as old buddy Ryan would tell me, couldn’t stop nosebleed. Nasty. That was, that was one of mine. I didn’t even put that in that piece with David bachino Last week on my Lawrence Taylor beat the pros thing, but they couldn’t stop a nosebleed, Luke,
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Luke Jones 01:30
they couldn’t and I mean, they actually did a decent job in the first half. I mean, obviously Cincinnati goes 10 plays, 86 yards on their second drive. But remember the opening drive for Cincinnati, three and out, the third drive, the drive that followed that touchdown, three and out, three and out again, one first down allowed, and then a punt and well, the Bengals get the ball back with under a minute to go in the first half. And it was a very, very, very different story from that point on. Hey, I’ll say this much. They did make a couple big plays at the end of the game, namely, Marlon Humphrey with the interception that allowed them to drive and kick the game tying field goal, adjusting Mata BK with the sack on first down that that thwarted any thought of the Bengals winning it in regulation. So and they stopped the run on those three very conservative play calls from Zach Taylor and the Bengals offense after the Lamar Jackson fumble. But I mean, look, they kept 38 points. I don’t really know where to even begin, other than just the fact that they were completely shredded by Joe burrow, and this Bengals passing game. And I mean, they, they had no answers whatsoever in that second half, like I said, until the very end. So I think there was a sense of the Ravens defense having turned the corner when they held buffalo to 10 points and they made, you know, remember van Noy had the big play when it looked like that Bengal or that bill’s game was threatening to turn sideways a little bit, the defense made the big play to kind of calm things down, and they dominated again from that point on. But this was not just what we saw against Dallas in the fourth quarter or against the raiders in the fourth quarter, this was two plus quarters of seeing the defense absolutely shredded. So the good news is, most teams don’t have Joe burrow and Jamar Chase and T Higgins as it pertains to a passing operation, but this group needs to get better, and they need to clean things up. And I think through five games, to me, we’ve seen the makings of a really good defense at times. But when it’s gone sideways, it’s gone really sideways, and it looks really bad. So I mean, they’ve got to figure that out. And you know, we’ve talked about it. I mean, the transition from Mike McDonald, who would basically solve Joe burrow in this Bengals offense the last couple years to Zach or who, I’m not putting it all on, Zach or but he’s in charge of the defense, right? I mean, he’s running the operation. So they’ve got to figure this out. Because while not every team has Joe burrow and chase and Higgins, it’s not to say other teams aren’t going to have talented quarterbacks and talented passing outfits, so they’ve got to figure this out. I mean, after Sunday’s game, you know, as they wake up Monday morning feeling good about a win, overall, they’re back down to, I think, 31st and passing yards allowed. So gotta get better there. I mean, it’s great to stop the run, don’t get me wrong, and they’ve stopped the run all year, but you got to be able to get to be able to do better than what we saw in that second half against the Bengals. I mean, thank goodness for Lamar Jackson in this ravens passing game. And, you know, two minute offense rising to the occasion because, I mean, they didn’t stop anyone through the bulk of that second half. I mean, that was pretty embarrassing by ravens defensive stand. Hundreds. Well, I
Nestor Aparicio 05:01
would also say historically, they’ve been a little bit more balanced in the thought that the defense would at least be good enough to put you a 20, a 23 up at Lamar to get to 27 or 30 on their worst days, on their best days, they’re shut the door, right? That’s that’s how the guy out in Seattle got his gig. That’s how Anthony Weaver, our pal has got the gig in Miami. The players have come a long way. That’s how Patrick queen got his contract in Pittsburgh. So like, on and on and on and on through all the graduates of the program, from CJ Mosley, you know, on through and the guys they’ve kept behind and the guys they’ve signed and spent big money on like Marcus Williams and big draft picks on like Nate Wiggins, right? So, um, where are you in the evaluation of, are they good enough? Did they underestimate the pass rush in the in the aftermath of Clowney? Uh, Matt abika got an incredible deal, and roquan is on an incredible deal, and Marlon Humphreys on an incredible deal, and Kyle Hamilton is their best player. So, you know, there’s a point where the money and the balance of what they’ve done on offense, spending a lot of money, a lot on the running back, um, save little money on the left tackle, and that’s gone well. I mean, Ronnie Stanley’s playing above grade now, which is from a money standpoint, but the defense and the money and the draft picks and what you’re expecting out of the middle of the defense, and the middle back of the defense has been sub optimal,
Luke Jones 06:33
yeah. I mean, I think that’s fair, and that’s, you know, I mean, let and let’s be clear, on Sunday, the Bengals threw it all over the place, right? I mean, it wasn’t just the middle of the field. I mean, they, they did whatever they wanted, basically, which is still why I, I go back to that final, their final drive after the Lamar fumble, and I just kind of scratched my head that they just decided, Oh, we’re going to run it three times against the heat of the defense, and we’re going to try a 53 yard field goal. I mean, it just didn’t make sense in that way to me. But, you know, we’ve seen, and this has been the theme early on, that that intermediate to deep middle portion of the field has been a major problem. I think, roquan Smith from a past coverage standpoint, and the inside linebackers from a past coverage standpoint, acknowledging that, yeah, when you went from Patrick queen to Trenton Simpson, there was probably going to be some growing pains in the same way there was for Patrick Queen early in his career. And he was a first round pick, not a third round pick. So I can’t say I’m shocked by that, and they’ve adjusted accordingly. Played a little more dime they take Trenton Simpson off the field in some obvious passing situations. You know, I think that’s the right thing to do strategically. I think we can question at times whether that has worked, in terms of whether that personnel grouping has then done the job you needed to, but you alluded to it. I’m not sure what the ravens are getting from Marcus Williams at this point in time, and I know we’ve talked at length about the fact that this guy was healthy for most of his time in New Orleans, and he’s dealt with injuries, you know, dealt with an injury that, you know, really derailed what was an awesome start his first year with the Ravens. Remember, he had like, three picks the first two games, or whatever it was. I mean, was playing at a really high level, then suffered what I think it was, a fractured wrist, and then was out until late December, or late November, December, whenever it was. So that was unfortunate. Last year, we know he played with the torn Peck for the bulk of the year. Really impacted his ability to tackle. But that said, I don’t think he played Orly over the bulk of the season. I think you know that element of his game was lacking, but I thought he was still good in coverage. I mean, their defense was excellent last year. But I and we talked about this a lot with the Raiders game, with the Dallas game in the fourth quarter, I just, I see someone who’s in no man’s land a lot. You know, when you’re playing deep center field, yes, your job is to not have anyone throw the ball over your head. But that doesn’t mean that you play so far back that they just complete passes in front of you over and over and over. And we we’ve seen that be a problem now every time that’s happened, that doesn’t mean it’s Marcus Williams fault every time. Let’s be clear, and that’s part of the responsibility of looking at this and knowing that there’s always going to be some unknown in terms of what coverage they were in and what everyone’s responsibility was. In the same way that, if you recall, in week one, there was that busted coverage, right? And everyone initially blamed Marlon Humphrey. It was Kyle Hamilton who wasn’t, didn’t have deep half of the field the way he was supposed to. That was Hamilton’s fault, not Marlon Humphries. So we all still understand that. So I’m not saying that all of their problems in past defense stem from Marcus Williams, but I mean, for someone who’s a $17 million safety, he’s got to be a bigger part of the solution than what we’ve seen. You know, he he’s not doing much. Of anything back there, you know, whether it’s not making tackles or being slower to react in coverage, whatever. I mean, they they need better from him. You know,
Nestor Aparicio 10:07
8seeing Gino stone out there catching, uh, Derek Henry reminds me he, he caught some footballs around here too.
Luke Jones 10:13
He did. And look, I mean, I’m not, you know, I’m not saying Geno stone warrants a $17 million per year contract either, and the Bengals didn’t do that. But for in terms of value, in terms of play you’re getting for what someone’s making, Marcus Williams is a value problem right now. There’s,
Nestor Aparicio 10:29
I saw Chuck Clark out making plays on Sunday too, when I was watching football too. So you know, there, there’s some other guys out there that like escape the program here, that made a lot of plays here. That’s how they got to the other places, literally, right?
Luke Jones 10:42
Sure, sure. So, I mean, look, I’ve seen some people debate whether this rave, you know, the ravens are overrated in the secondary in terms of their talent. I mean, I still think it’s a really talented group at the end of the day, but they’ve got to start performing and, again, be overcompensated. I would say maybe, and, and some of it is also probably just, and I don’t say this, saying that Zach or is not going to become a good defensive coordinator, but I think it’s safe to say at this point that they’re having their issues that, frankly, they didn’t have really at all last year, say for maybe a couple games. And, you know, I mean, it’s, there’s definitely some some growing pains. And I’ll say this as much as I just spent time focusing on Marcus Williams and roquan Smith a little bit in past coverage. You know, over the first five games of the season, you know, their pass rush has been a little too feast or famine for my liking. I mean, look, Kyle van Noy was AFC Defensive Player of the Month in September, you know. I mean, he had three straight games with with two sacks. I mean, that was very impressive. What he’s giving you at in his age 33 season, very impressive. I think agape owe has been, overall, taking the next step in terms of what he’s doing. You know, Mata BK got paid, but the guy that to me, has been their best interior defensive lineman through the first five games of the season has been Travis Jones. I think he’s been extremely disruptive, even if it doesn’t show up in terms of tackles and sacks and numbers in a traditional line a box score. But I do think the pass rush collectively has been a little feast or famine. You know, I think what we saw on in the second half on Sunday, I saw, I can’t remember the exact number, but burrow was getting the ball out really quick. So there were a lot of times where, even if you had a good pass rush, I mean, he was just getting rid of the ball that quickly. So, you know, what were they doing pre snap? What were they doing from a coverage standpoint, you know, I, again, I without having a chance to extensively rewatch it and try to, you know, see the all 22 and all that it, it’s a little bit of an incomplete picture. But, I mean, 38 points given up is 38 points given up, right? I mean, clearly something is awry, and something hasn’t been right with this defense. So it’s just disappointing, because it felt like the bills game was the breakthrough to say, all right, that looks more like the Ravens defense, that looks more like a really deep, talented secondary, and doing what they did to Josh Allen, who had played phenomenal football through the first three weeks of the season. But you know, they clearly had him a substantial setback on Sunday. So again, not every quarterback’s Joe burrow, not every team has two wide receivers like Chase and Higgins, but you know, they better be ready. They better be ready to clean things up because they’re going to be facing a quarterback on Sunday and Jaden Daniels, who is playing beyond his years. I get it. He’s a rookie, but if you’ve watched them play at all, this kid’s not playing like a rookie. I mean, he’s put up some unbelievable numbers early on. So hey, the ravens, can you know you can continue to to live off of a reputation of everyone thinking you’re really going to be that, that you’re really good, or you need to go out there and start playing like it for 60 minutes. And we did not see that on Sunday. Again, credit Marlon for getting the pick when he did. Credit Justin madabi or namdi matabike for getting the sack when he did that. That thwarted any thought of the Bengals winning it in regulation there. But, and I mean, you can’t, you can’t decide to start playing at that point. You know, you got to start. You got to get some stops. And when you talk about the end of the second quarter, when you let the Bengals score with what they got the ball with 34 seconds to go, and you let them score a touchdown when they had it backed up at their own 21 I mean, to borrow a line from John Harbaugh years ago, that’s below the bar. I mean, that really is, and then you come out in the second half, touchdown, Touchdown, touchdown. I mean, doesn’t sound like a Ravens defense. So this is definitely, you know, even you can learn a lot, even through a victory, and you’d rather learn in a game that you win, rather than a game. You lose, but they’ve got to clean things up. They’ve got to be way more consistent than what we’re seeing. And, you know, that’s in terms of coverage. I’d also say that’s in terms of tackle tackling. You know, we’ve seen this team have issues tackling a lot of these games. You know, go back to the Dallas game. Go back to the Las Vegas game. I mean, they missed a lot of tackles in the second half of those games as well. So I don’t think it’s as simple as just saying, Oh well, the scheme’s bad, or they’re playing too much man, or they’re playing too much zone, or they’re doing not doing this, or that. Some of it is just execution. And you you’ve got talented players. They got to go out and make plays. So you know, collectively across the board, they need to be better. Because, I mean a Ravens defense ever giving up 38 points. I mean, that’s just, it’s unacceptable. Now that we know the standard around here, if there’s one thing that the ravens, you know, I spent a lot of time in a previous segment talking about offensive identity, but the overall identity for this football team for a quarter century now has been their defense, and right now, okay, they’re stopping the run. I’ll give them that. But beyond that, this defense leaves a lot to be desired right now.
8Nestor Aparicio 16:09
Luke Jones is here. He does not leave a lot to be desired. To leave it all out on the field. That’s what we did last week at the Camden Yards. If you have not read my dear David Rubenstein letter or any of our Requiem work for the Orioles in their off season. We will continue to be discussing all things new ownership and how it relates to things. One thing is Mr. Rubenstein, I think, is on the other side of the football fence, based on what I saw last weekend and his time spent at FedEx field. He may want to be educated about the history of George Preston Marshall, and, you know, Carol Rosenblum, and, like all of it going back here over 50 years, because I’m aware of it, but what a week for football, Luke. I want to say this about this kid coming up here, and Jane Daniels and your crush on him, and you being semi old white guy now you had another birthday. You’re sort of out on the Get off my lawn. You’re almost in the Get off my lawn, where I am, but you’re not quite there after all of these years. Um, I found the game on Sunday as I start the right and I was doing my column this, and I haven’t even pushed send on it yet, because there’s a little piece of it that I found, the juxtaposition of a 4138 game, and you’re pissed at the Ravens defense, and I’m thinking it did okay against Josh Allen at home last week, like, you know what I mean, but Josh Allen didn’t have, and I said Stefan Diggs, and you’re like, well, he’s over the hill, whatever it is, didn’t have those kind of weapons, the kind of weapons that the Bengals come in with. And the thought that the Bengals offensive line has been this and that, and I see Orlando Brown, and we can go back and forth on that on the offensive line, but we the skill position players the Bengals put on the field, and you wonder how Zach Taylor keeps his job. Well, you know, you draft jet airplanes and get them running at least score 38 points, you think you’d win. But there’s the other part of this. Is how different the offenses and the philosophies have had to become from the minute that Lamar was at his head down on his mother’s lap in the in the banquet room at the draft, to teams having to deal with him whatever the attack is. And I would say Jalen Daniels, and we watch Kyler Murray play. My wife’s like, That guy’s a midget. My wife watches, like, look how small he is. In their little white uniforms that they’re wearing. They’re, you know, up against all these big linemen. And I’m like, but that’s the game now. And you see what the Houston Texans have been able to do. And you see also, also Joe Flacco had amazing success, you know, I’ll be it against the Jaguar. Say whatever you want, but Joe Flacco came out and throws in that. I’m going to call it the John Elway. So I’m not going to go back to Unitas. I’ll throw Marino In, but not Steve Young or what West Coast became. That’s different. I think there’s some elements of all of that right in these offenses, because the West Coast is pretty much a Flacco borough to have all elements of that. That’s very different than Dan Fouts or run and shoot, right, but comparing how the Bengals beat you with all of these skill position players and a quarterback that gets rid of the ball like Peyton Manning and Tom Brady learned how to do different than Brett Farver Roethlisberger, going to run around a little bit, give you a little bit of Lamar, but no, not that kind of speed at all. And then Michael Vick began this. I’m gonna have Mike silver on talking about his book this week, and we can get into quarterbacking, and people that are really smart about it, the people you and I have had on the people we know in the sport, as well as offensive coordinators that I can dial up and have Matt Cavanaugh sit here and tell me how the game has changed, but this week, it’s the Washington commanders and a new owner, and Dan Quinn who’s been around the block from Salisbury through to. Trying to say, I’m gonna sign on for what the cost and horrible didn’t lose their jobs yet, the revolution of a quarterback that can be dynamic versus and I, you know me, man, I got a crush on Joe burrow. And I got a crush on Joe burrow because of what he did on Sunday. I consider that maybe it’s the old Hispanic guy in me, although they hate when I say I’m Hispanic, I am. But whatever it is, it’s the old line of being a guy that watched John Elway and he was the best. I mean, I to bring up any of them that Elway gun sling, three step, I’m going to read you. You’re going to beat your man, you’re going to be aware. We practiced it the last five years, and we’re going to make that play happen. And if this happens, we’re going to Audible out of that. Because I’m Peyton Manning and I’m smart, or I’m Tom Brady Lamar, has the other part of always being able to run right? So he has that ability. I don’t know that they put him in that and that that’s what monk and wants him to do in any way. But we’re talking about the revolution now coming here with a copycat of how Lamar has worked, and we’re going to see that versus what you and I would argue that dude, if my ass were on the line and I were Eric, the cost of drafting football players, and I’m not Anthony Lamar. I clearly went through the racial part of this, and I have John Eisenberg on this week, who wrote a book about black quarterbacks and historic perspective and all of that. I just don’t like quarterbacks that run in the middle of the field and get hurt. You’ll say he doesn’t get hurt that way. It is astonishing that nobody can catch him, nobody can bring him down. He pushes off 290 pound Terrell Suggs like defenders. He never gets hit, he never gets squared up on. He’s still a quarterback and can dive and never does Lamar is unbelievable, but Joe burrow is too, and I think we saw that, and it’s this is really old and new. Some would say black and white. Some would say run and not run. Some would say RPO, whatever you want to call it. But the evolution of where this like Navy football helmets, it’s five, six years ago for Lamar, for him, to be able to go out and dice up the bangles and get them back into this with a running game that’s powerful. Um, the revolution is still being set the Joe burrow offense. We’ve been seeing that for 3040, years. It works when it works, and when you have the talent around, it can work. And it diced up the Ravens pretty good on Sunday. I would say it’s still, there’s still a case to be made for there’s a couple of ways to play offense here, and the Ravens are trying to do it in a way that’s really never won the Super Bowl. But I would say mahomes is Lamar, right? So you could say the last five years there’s much more of the mahomes is Asian of the league and the Lamar is ation of the league than there is guys like Joe burrow winning, although, you know the Rams Guy, Matt Stafford would make a case for the old way too.
Luke Jones 22:58
Yeah. I mean, look, I’m not saying that you can’t still do that, but if you’re going to ask me to choose one or the other, give me the dual threat guy any day of the week. I mean, nope, no. Patrick mahomes doesn’t run to the degree that Lamar Jackson does, but how many times have you seen Patrick mahomes Absolutely break a T A defenses back when it’s third and seven, and they cover their butts off, and he gets loose and runs for eight yards. And you mentioned John Elway. Look, John Elway early, early in his career. John Elway could move around a little bit now. Dan Marino was your stand back in the pocket and throw right
Nestor Aparicio 23:36
that way too. Let me throw a quarterback at you that I have the crush on from a game standpoint, that if I want to see the game played, Kurt Warner, give me an and burrows, that guy indoor arena football league making passes from five to 15 yards every time, on the dime, safely to great receivers who then can move or not. But that, to me, is the best football I’ve seen. Not the most exciting, the most exciting with this Lamar thing, the most exciting spend Roethlisberger extending plays in France, arkinton, that’s exciting. But I think the way I would want to win a Super Bowl would be with the Kurt Warner or Joe burrow, a guy who delivers the ball to really special, talented athletes without putting himself in harm’s way. Okay?
Luke Jones 24:25
8I mean, that’s, that’s your preference. You’re entitled.
Nestor Aparicio 24:28
Let’s argue that Friday. Can we extend? Can I just tease that and let you we’ll just do all defense in this segment, and we can. Or do you have anything you want to retort on
Luke Jones 24:35
that? Mean, I just, I just think that. I think that’s that style. Sounds great if you have great wide receivers, but we also saw what Joe Flacco looked like the second half of his career, after they traded away anfont Bolden and let Torrey Smith walk out the door, and they had a 36 year old version of Steve Smith, who was still pretty good, but not what he was seven years earlier in his career. He also didn’t have Derek Henry, but I’m just saying. I mean, what, what you what you present, and there’s validity to it, I’m not going to say I mean, Tom Brady. Tom Brady didn’t run at all, but that’s, you know, what Tom Brady did without having elite of elite talent his entire career, although Rob gunkowski is one of the greatest tight ends of all time, and maybe at his peak, the best ever, albeit a brief, you know, that was a reality. Also came along when Brady needed him. And also Randy Moss had, you know, had had his Renaissance, you know, going from the Raiders to the to the Patriots. But by and large, Tom Brady did not, you know, it’s not like Joe Montana, having Jerry Rice and Steve Young having Jerry Rice, for example. But I would say that the dual threat quarterback, generally speaking, and that doesn’t mean they they don’t need anyone to throw to, but generally speaking, feels like they can do more with less. And I mean that that was one of the big things, uh, you know, with the the Greg Roman offense, and how little Greg Roman seemed to value wide receivers, if we’re being honest. You know, when you consider it was Lamar running and it was the running backs running and Lamar throwing to the tight ends. And look that that took them a long way. You know, they won a lot of football games, but you know, for them to feel like they needed to grow, they they went to Todd monkin and went to the next level, and they’ve drafted wide receivers here the last couple years. And you know, so point is bring it back. Just the final thought with a defense, I guarantee you, even with the Ravens having gone through what they went through on Sunday, defensively, they would still say, on a week by week basis, they’ll face the pocket passer, quarterback that’s going to stand back there and not take off. They’ll gladly take take on that guy, compared to a guy like Jaden Daniels who can throw the ball. I mean, anyone who doubted his ability to throw the ball, you didn’t watch him at Louisville or at LSU last year, but at the same time, you also see his ability to take off and how that can wreck a game. So any of these guys are going to tell you, Look, Joe burrow is great. Matthew Stafford’s great. You know, Tom Brady was the greatest of all time. Like, you know, they’ll, they’ll tell you all that. But Lamar Jackson, Patrick mahomes, even though he doesn’t run a whole lot, but he’s effective doing it. Josh Allen and what he does, I mean, they’ll look at that, and Jaden Daniels now add him to the list. And all these guys aren’t exactly the same. Let’s be clear. Let’s not, you know, we’re not trying to pigeonhole anyone. Everyone has their strengths and weaknesses and different qualities that are a little bit a little bit different than the other guy, but they all use their legs, and they all use their legs really, really well. And any defense will tell you that that is a colossal headache. So yeah, both these defenses, Washington and the Ravens, they’re gonna, you know, these, these coordinators, these defensive coaches, going to have some some sleepless nights this week, trying to get ready for a dual threat quarterback on on both sides. And Lamar has been doing it for years, but Tonya the street and Daniels kid for a rookie especially, has been really, really impressive, but let’s see how he does coming into Baltimore, hoping that your defense rebounds and looks a little bit more like they did against Josh Allen than they did against Joe burrow on Sunday. All
Nestor Aparicio 28:23
right, we’re going to be out on Friday celebrating birthdays, and I guess we’re going to have this. We’re going to have a quarterback debate, where you and I can go to Essex and sort it out, just like I did at stemmers run when I played for the Dundalk midgets back in the day, with John Rallo running over to stemmers runners. We’re going to be down to back river neck road. Stop on down on Friday. Have some have a crab cake. Have a pizza, pepperoni pizza, whatever you want. Get my kind of pizza. You get the Hawaiian. That’s a ham, pineapple, and then get the pepperonis on it. Have it a little extra well done. Get those pepperonis crisped up. Real nice for you. Some sprinkle cheese on there. Little Greek salad, or a little chef’s salad on the side. Luke’s gonna have some strawberry ice cream, never mint chocolate chip, though I learned that. And Lena Raskin is gonna join us on Friday. It’s also his birthday this week. So it’s big birthday. Jim Palmer, Jim, you’re invited. You know, I love you. Come on. They come to Essex. I’ll feed you pizza. You don’t get that pizza in Laguna Beach, I promise you that. So it’s our birthdays this week. It’s Sammy Hagar is invited, but he’s in Mexico drinking Julio tequila, so he won’t be there this week, but we’ll be there. Maybe we’ll listen to some Sammy Hagar, I don’t know. Maybe we’ll, uh, we’ll talk about Jim Palmer on his birthday, Luke and I’ll be there on Friday. It’s all brought to you by friends at the Maryland lottery. We have Raven scratch offs to give away, as well as our friends at Liberty, pure solutions, one 800 clean water, putting us out on the oyster tour, which is available. We’re gonna have a new logo. I have the new logo. I’m going to put it up this week. I’m so excited. It’s a crab, it’s an oyster, it’s a 26 it’s rod Woodson. It’s Johnny Oates. It’s good things. He’s Luke. I’m Nestor. It’s football. We won this week. Let’s all be happy. Let’s rejoice. Playing Washington this week. They better not lose. It’s.
