Whenever we bring the Maryland Krab Kake Tour to Koco’s Pub, we recruit our lifer pal and sage sports cartoonist Ricig as the Ko-Host to sort out the world of Baltimore news and views. This week, we attempt to make sense of the Orioles’ pitching and the Ravens’ zero tolerance policy.
Nestor Aparicio and sports cartoonist Mike Ricigliano discuss the Orioles’ poor pitching performance and the Ravens’ controversial draft pick of Mike Green, who has a history of sexual assault allegations. They express frustration with the Orioles’ injury-prone pitchers and the Ravens’ zero-tolerance policy, questioning its sincerity given their handling of Justin Tucker. They also reminisce about the Orioles’ past successes and the community’s evolving relationship with the Ravens. The conversation shifts to a lighter note with plans for a Burke’s crab melt event at Coco’s Pub, highlighting the community’s support and the upcoming Morgan State graduation.
Our sports cartoonist Ricig at…lerance policy with Nestor.mp4
Thu, May 01, 2025 10:07AM • 36:30
SUMMARY KEYWORDS
Orioles pitching, Ravens zero tolerance, Bruno Sammartino, Super Bowl, Burke’s crab melt, Morgan State graduation, Charlie Morton, Mike Green, Justin Tucker, sexual assault allegations, community impact, media criticism, ownership issues, baseball season.
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SPEAKERS
Mike Ricigliano, Nestor Aparicio
Nestor Aparicio 00:01
Welcome home. We are W, N, S T. Am 1570 task Baltimore. We are Baltimore positive. We are here at Coco’s pub. Parrots surrounding me. Huge 11 ounce crab cage, as big as my head, as well as the Back to the Future scratch offs from the Maryland lottery. Lucky batch of giving them out. Out here they got a lot of Morgan State graduations coming up around here, and good things always happening in laurelville, home of this man, Mike rasigliano, is our defending champion. My official co host with a K artist extraordinaire, cartoonist, sports cartoonist, the last of a dying breed. And I put this show together on April 30 for a couple of reasons. For SIG a I knew I might be seeing Pearl Jam in Atlanta on the 29th last night, and I was and did, and I muelled myself over here. But April 30 is also today. Is the 48th anniversary of Bruno Sammartino losing the worldwide Wrestling Federation championship to Superstar Billy Graham here at the Baltimore Civic Center. Wow. That happened on April 30, 1977 and the Orioles are taken on the Yankees. And I got to be honest with you, bro, when I put this together, the last time I did the show, here was a cup of Super Bowl. You were here in February. We do that for Maryland Food Bank. St Francis of Assisi, the tribe passed on the way coming up here Chester wood Park. And I thought, Orioles, Yankees. Marcella didn’t want me in here in May, because it’s too crowded, because of graduation with Morgan and all that. So I’m like, I’m gonna get in here in April, last day, April. We’re gonna do the Wednesday. And I’m gonna do that because the Orioles are plenty Yankees, sure. And I thought to myself, we’re doing this crab melt thing tonight that you’re gonna be a part of a little late. Of a little later on. We’re recreating the Burke’s crab melt, which I know you probably, oh, the birth one. Okay, we’re doing that today. I mean, that’s, that’s pretty cool. It is serious thing that’s to get your wife, tell Terry to get down here. We’re having Burke’s crab melts and Coco’s. So I figured tonight would be maybe friends in the neighborhood, maybe Dr, Steve and Allison would want to come over from Ellie car like some friends would come by tonight. We’d fill the bar here with conviviality. The Oriole game would be on right and when I put this together on February the 10th or whatever, when I started looking at the spring like I’m at red brick station next week, I was Costas and fade these all the other places I put all my scheduling together around baseball, the Orioles and prosperity is whatever that I knew you’d be wearing your Oriole white paneled hat. I told Costello you’d be wearing that hat.
Mike Ricigliano 02:36
Oh, is that right? Okay, giveaway hat. It’s a cool hat, you know. But yeah, I mean, I, you know, I’m in deep, deep distress at this point, like you, are you in denial? Are you in distress? Worry? I’m in more in distress. I’m not. I’m not. I mean, it looks, it looks like we’ve got real problems. So I’m not. Denial would not be the word. I think. I’m not sure how we’re going to fight our way out of this, unless a lot of pitchers get healthy all the sudden. And that doesn’t seem to happen on this team right now. This just seems to be a team of injury prone starting pitchers, and then they get healthy and then they get hurt again. So I this is not this is not a staff. It’s one of the worst steps in baseball right now. It’s one of the worst records in baseball and one of the worst pitching staffs right now in baseball.
Nestor Aparicio 03:25
8Well, I got to lay that on Elias, right? And I got to say to myself, the 100,000 feet, not even the 50,000 feet. New owner Money Bags doesn’t know anything about baseball, right? He’s kept most of the Angelos lieutenants around, which is one of the reasons I don’t have a press pass tonight, and Luke does, right? So because there’s no reason to not give me a press pass for David Rubenstein, Angelos had no reason to take it away, but Angelos was Angelos. You don’t want to be like him. So I’ve tried to explain all of this away, and I wrote my letter to Katie Griggs, which I hope you read, and I hope everybody read, last week, I would just say this for this team, I’ve been bullishly supportive of them. I have believed in the pitching. I am an excuse maker for them. In regard to Bradish Rodriguez means, well, Duke Eflin just go down. The acquisition of Corbin burns, the acquisition is Zach Eflin, brilliant. The signing of Charlie Morton, the signing of Chicano, how much money they got one year deal the day those signings were made, I made sense of them. If everything didn’t make sense, I said, you know, they’re gonna need a reliable fourth or fifth starter. They’re gonna need a veteran guy like Charlie Morton. He was okay last year. I’m just gonna assume Father Time hasn’t found him at 41 right? Exactly
Mike Ricigliano 04:45
the way I felt about it, too, well. I mean, well, I’m trying to be
Nestor Aparicio 04:48
optimistic and by their BS, until I hear that it’s BS, and now I feel like the whole thing, the owner gave a bobble head of himself away last week. That is not a good sign. I mean, really isn’t a good sign. I would say it would
Mike Ricigliano 05:00
have been a fun thing if we were winning. I think I, you know, I guess the idea that he sort of, at least that last year was a celebrity. So that’s what you do with bobble heads. He was a bit of a celebrity here when he was buying beers for everyone and and, you know,
8Nestor Aparicio 05:14
the whole Is that all you have to do is be a billionaire and buy beers to be a celebrity at the time that Thank you. You do good ownership, and then we’ll make a statue of you, and you won’t have to make a
Mike Ricigliano 05:24
bob. We expected. I think we expect a good ownership at that point. But for that first week, if he would have put a bobble head out that week, it would have been well received.
Nestor Aparicio 05:33
I can’t even feign
Mike Ricigliano 05:35
8makes no sense right now, you know. But to go back to Charlie Morton, you know, what I didn’t like about those two signings was that they were one year deals. I mean, it was smart to sign Charlie Morton for one year, one year. But they didn’t. They didn’t make any commitment to future pitching by those signings, more one year deals. A really old guy, and you just hope that he, you know, wasn’t, hadn’t flattened out as a pitcher, and he has so, so it’s a disaster two years in a row. Kimball, yeah, Kimbrel and then Charlie Morton, $28 million worth of, you know, wasted assets there, thankfully, one year deal picking
Nestor Aparicio 06:17
things up to where it’s going to get better, you know what? What’s going to make it better? Where is the Calvary? I thought Cal Gibson was supposed to be the Calvary, right, right, right? And that there’s been so many things that have been problematic about all of it, but the hitting that, you know, I looked at some stats today. What’s it like? West Berg Oh, for 30 rutschmans had an over 20. You all these guys have had, oh, for teens and 20s during the first month of the it’s hard to go over 30 ever in the big leagues. Still be in the big leagues, right? Like and that’s hard to do. They’re
Mike Ricigliano 06:55
hitting with running with men on base is terrible, like it, it’s near the bottom of the league. And it’s been near the bottom of the league since the middle of last year. You know, they were peaking in May. I guess it was last year to look great, and then all of a sudden, things wheel started coming off. And since that time, that’s like almost 162 game might be less than that, but almost a full season worth of not hitting with runners in scoring position, not hitting with runners on base for this team.
Nestor Aparicio 07:24
Well, the pragmatist in me said, you can’t sign burns because he doesn’t want to be here, right? Do you want to get money to crochet? Do you want to deal for Dylan? Cease the windows shut on scuba once they started. Obviously, we saw what he was about over again. We’ll get to them not hitting left handed pitching as well. But you know, the Japanese signing in a vacuum, three time Cy Young winner. That guy is a grown up. You know that? I think we saw that on Monday night, right? Tuesday night, Monday night. Get my days and lights mixed up this week. I just the philosophy of not drafting pitchers, not having pitchers that Elias has run the thing for seven years and got his first pitcher to pitch his first pitch last week. Brandon young, right? Like seven years, is that right? Wow, he has not drafted a pitcher who has pitched a pitch in the big leagues until Brandon Young did last week, right? And that didn’t even go well. You can’t build a franchise without pitching. You can’t and you can’t buy your way out of it. Even when you have the money for Corbin burns, you can’t buy it. And it’s philosophical, and I don’t know how you can be down on Elias and my Dell and Brandon Hyde after they won under 92 games the last few years. I don’t know that this is general manager or manager, as much as it’s philosophical about the value of pitching and how we’re going to get it. I mean, how are they ever going to get it when the evangelist still owned the team? Because Angelos wouldn’t have been paying Japanese pitchers $15 million you know, right? Angeles wouldn’t have put $80 million into the payroll this year the way Rubenstein has. So from that perspective, Rubenstein has met that challenge of putting more money in. There’s been that,
8Mike Ricigliano 09:04
right? I What’s kind of on board with the whole not prioritizing pitching in the draft because it’s just riskier, and we saw that with the history of this team. I
Nestor Aparicio 09:16
mean, we, you know, what else is risky, not having any of it, well, that I’m just being, I mean, be afraid
Mike Ricigliano 09:21
with you, right? Absolutely correct. I mean, that that’s an eye opener for me, because I thought this is smart. We’ve built up this incredible collection of, you know, hitting talent on this team. We trade some for pitching, but it just hasn’t played out that way. You know, it just hasn’t been, well, the
Nestor Aparicio 09:35
8haters haven’t hit. If the haters were hitting, they they wouldn’t appear as awful. Luke even did some stat that would make Rob long and Melanie Newman happy. Luke said, if you take Charlie Morton’s terrible, all of his starts have been terrible. They’ve lost every game he started right, six starts, oh and six, oh and so, whatever it is, right? If half of those were half okay and they won those games. Games, maybe a 500 team, they’d be right in the thick of the pen. That’s how bad it is to have a pitcher taking a turn every five days who’s giving you no chance to win, literally no chance. Oh, I
Mike Ricigliano 10:11
get it. I don’t know what to do with that. You know, they’re, you know, you’ve got it. I think they have to hope he comes around and, you know, well, they don’t have any other option pitching. Well, he’s going to get the ball pitching a middle relief lately, right? Well, he’s got to work it out in middle relief, and then comes back. I mean, look at there’s a couple of Premier closers right now. I have them both on my fancy baseball team. You know, never general managers like Devin Devin Williams of the Yankees and Class A on the in The Guardian, Guardian that started out so terrible this year. And you know, they’re basically letting them work it out in middle relief. And once they’re back to what they’re doing, they’ll be back in their in their spot. Pitching
Nestor Aparicio 10:55
is, you can’t, it’s like, it’s like vapor, you know what? I mean, grabbing on to Greg Maddux, or grabbing on the Jim Palmer, or grabbing on to one season of Chris Tillman, one season of Kyle Bradish, right? What? One season of Corbin burns, one month of Soma Yuki Sagano, yeah. I mean, like, right? Just
Mike Ricigliano 11:16
it is fleeting. I mean, unless you, I mean, if you’ve got a premier starting pitcher like school bull, you’ve got gold because there’s not that many of them in and
8Nestor Aparicio 11:28
there’s something about that guy pitching every fifth day that affects the day before and after him, too. It’s not like he just pitches what you know, when you have a one, I think it, it messes up the other team in whatever way the mismatch is, the way you approach a tough left hander. I mean, I mean, the Orioles used to wave a white flag, right? They would play Jeff rebellion first base, or D, you know, against Randy Johnson, right? They would just say we’re gonna put our Sunday team in. Gary Sanchez is gonna play because we don’t want to hit a left hander. Yes, the Orioles are all much allergic to left hand, to pitching right now as an organization, yes.
Mike Ricigliano 12:05
So I mean Santander with either he was a writing now, well,
Nestor Aparicio 12:10
Santander, to me, was about money and about length of contract, and this was really an Elias decision, right? Elias decided we can get by with less, signing Tyler O’Neill, who you knew was going to be her, because he’s always hurt there was hitting 195 or something like that the other day. I mean, Santa there is not having a good year. So, wow, we can make that case here, that he feels like a missing ingredient here, but everything’s missing here. Hunter Henderson’s powers missing. Yeah. Adley rutschman is missing. Colton cows are missing now. Westburg, everything’s right, you know? Yeah, Marsh soups, ridiculously delicious. Hi, Marcy. Already get those crab melts ready. We’re six ready, skinny. We gotta fatten them up. We gotta fatten them up. We’re gonna do that well, whenever we’re done fixing the Orioles celebratory crab melts, here could
Mike Ricigliano 12:59
8be midnight, Midnight meal by then. Are
Nestor Aparicio 13:01
you done with the or you want to talk for? Talk football or you want to do more baseball? I liked
Mike Ricigliano 13:05
it. I needed to know your your thoughts on the Ravens draft anyway. So I was, I was, I was interested in how you felt particularly, particularly about the I had a problem with the second pick on the draft. I did go ahead, you know, I just thought that this is a team that, you know, has a policy that clearly laughing out loud, right? Yeah. I mean, well, of course, a joke. It’s a joke. And it, I think, became a further joke there. You know, that’s I, I, when I first saw we picked them. I was delighted because I didn’t know the background on the guy, but once I saw the background, I’m like, how do you make a pick like that? Here’s
Nestor Aparicio 13:45
my here’s where I am. Okay? And I’m telling you this because I’ve known you. You’re my oldest friend in media, literally, right? I met you in 1984 Mike rasigliano is our guest, the fantastic sports cartoonist RACI. He’s my co host with a K. He’s going to be co hosting and helping me watch the Orioles play tonight here against the Yankees. And eating a delicious crab melt. Um, here’s where I’m with the Ravens. And I’m being like, full sincerity. You get a full shoot interview, right? Right? Yeah, we lost the Colts here in 83 I met you around that period of time. You drew famously, Bob or say, cartoons for the community, right? Yes, we’ve been through that here, right? We’ve been through that. We were through art Schleicher at that point. Oh, yeah, a stolen franchise, a fat, drunk, lying owner, right? Who was, you know, lied about everything. The league turned its back on you. Me, John Stedman and everybody else, right? The Big Wheel, everybody right? Loudy, loud and slagger, sweetie. We lived through that. Then we lived through the shame period, where we serve crab cakes, literally to Bill bib Well, our Al Davis, Georgia frontier, begging everyone to bring us a franchise, right? I went to some of those. We did all of that, right? You went up to Philadelphia with the. Or say, dummy, we did all of that. This is the, this is the skid marks I have down my backside that Chad Steele has no respect for, no knowledge of, no comprehension of no respect for, no respect for anything, right? And I thought Bucha he had respect for this stuff, which is why, when I wrote him that note three years ago, and he’s throwing me out of the media knowing I’m a media member, looking the other way and pretending like it doesn’t exist, right? That the last couple of years since I don’t give them money anymore, I got off a plane this morning from Atlanta and you say, Why do you fly to Atlanta to see Pearl Jam? I’m like, Well, I don’t fly there to see the Ravens anymore. I don’t I don’t I don’t go anywhere anymore. I don’t go with the baseball team or the football team. So I picked my spots. But when the when the Ravens came here, and I was down in parking lot D with Peter King and Paris Glen Dennings holding up that Browns glass, you’re still writing cartoons 1995 96 or this happened November 95 there was a point where this team came in here, and they were to everyone on the outside the stolen Barney. You could have been the prick cartoonist and and been negative on them, negative on stealing the team, negative on art. Drew art as a moron, Drew art as the dogs kicking him the way Sports Illustrated the way art was being portrayed at that time. And I gave them the complete benefit of the doubt, as well as a check for my PSLs, I tried to get to know them, meet them, wondering if they’re good people, wondering if they all the reputation from Cleveland was bad or not. They’re both dead. They’ve been dead for a decade, right, right? Those two guys never, ever lied to me, ever from the minute I met art modell to the minute he died, the minute I met David, if I had a call in the middle of the night with a question with Kevin Byrne, any of those people? Brian Billick, Marvin Lowe, talk about any of those people? Now, you have Ray Lewis’s transgressions. You had Jamal Lewis. You had Ralph state run around the gun. You had things going on in that organization that didn’t make me proud. I called it a poor suckers license in front of Roy summer off when he was trying to sell them in 1996 right? So I never saw it as an investment or any of the Bucha that they gave me. But there was a point of being a community partner, of me getting the flying B on my hat and then getting the other B when they called that disputed and David gave the markings up there was the first Super Bowl. The second Super Bowl. There were hearing Ray Lewis get called a murderer for 15 years, which I did at every stadium I went to, hearing all of that, all the purple bird were the tough guys. We’re gonna be the bullies on the block and all of that stuff. And then the Ray Rice thing happened, right? And that was in a sentence, disgraceful. Every part of it was disgraceful. They’re burning jerseys down there. Then they put them in they haven’t run they might as well put them in a Ring of Honor. Now he is completely washed away from anything he ever did. He’s coaching. They, they, they’re paying him money to go shake hands in the suite level and take pictures and do all of that. Right? So he’s been deodorized and fixed, and the franchise in the 12 years since Ray Rice has been rudderless. I mean, in that way, in the way of they win football games and nothing else. How they treat anyone, whether the stands are full, whether they come out and do things in the community, good or bad, but this Tucker thing, and you we haven’t talked about it because, like, it barely happened last time we got together, this is disgraceful from a community standpoint, of using power, misogyny, sexual favors in professional circumstances, the denial of it, then the pointing the finger at the media. The media are the scumbags. They’re the bad guys. It’s that dirty media that did this to me, Justin Tucker boohoo, 16 women, the fact that he stole on the team, as we’re sitting here talking about it, and that they drafted a kid with problems, and that the offensive tackle that hasn’t been good enough to be a raven, hadn’t been on the field, but he’s got a Cleveland name that they gave him money three weeks after he gets a DUI. We for you to say that there’s a policy I’m ashamed of them. You know what I mean, as a key for what they’ve done to me and my family in front of everyone and everyone it’s, you know, if you’re a Trumper, you hate me, you can deny it. They took away my career in the prime of my career, for spite, for meanness, for kicks, for sport, and they want no criticism of their team. The coach doesn’t want real questions. The General Manager is a coward, hiding from all of this. They’re all hiding from it. They’re pointing to the NFL. And I’m telling you dude, from my heart, from a from a guy with a closet full of ravens. Memories, a closet full of ravens stuff. My next dear ravens letter. It’s just going to be that I’m I’m a. Shamed for them. I’m ashamed for them.
8Mike Ricigliano 20:03
I was I I’m not. My opinions aren’t quite as strong as yours Nestor, you know? Well, I
Nestor Aparicio 20:09
mean, I don’t know what else to say. They attracted a kid this week that they have to make excuses for coming in. I’ve watched that time, zero time I
Mike Ricigliano 20:15
watched the press conference. I thought it was uncomfortable, but I’ve talked to a lot of Ravens fans, who are, you know, happy? I think we’re all probably be happy when we see the
Nestor Aparicio 20:25
8guy fan base has become. Synco fits do. I mean, I don’t know what to say, like, like, if you can’t stand up and walk in here, at least look at me and say I’m a media member and Chad steals full of manure. If you can’t say that, then, and you, if you can’t say that to Steve Bucha and John Harbaugh and Eric da Costa, then you don’t want accountability. If you don’t want me there asking questions, and they can excommunicate me and try to end my career after four decades of doing this in a really sleazy, nefarious way. And I know information about things that have gone on in that building that should not be going on with employees. It things that have happened there, that have involved lawyers, that have involved women, that should not be happening in their building. I am ashamed to be on the radio or in a bar. Having to act like this zero tolerance policy is anything other than laughable. We’re sick. I don’t know what I mean. You know me 40 years man, I want to love the Ravens. I love the Ravens. I gave them all I had. And this is where, this is what they make. The media and their own people make excuses for Mike Green. The
Mike Ricigliano 21:34
guy is not guilty of it. So that’s the one thing you can say about him. But that’s, you know, the reason, there was a reason he dropped, and this was a reason a lot of teams passed on him. So the Ravens drafting him is not a stroke of brilliance, it’s a stroke of he just kept dropping because other teams were unwilling to take the chance on the guy they were. It’ll probably it. Maybe it’ll pay off for him. Maybe he’ll end up being a good dude. I don’t know. Maybe he’ll be free of all those things. But if you’ve got a zero tolerance policy and you’ve got an issue like Justin Tucker on this team, in the middle of it exactly, then you can’t make that. I don’t think you should have made that.
Nestor Aparicio 22:11
31 other teams couldn’t three times, three times they went through Right, wow. Realistically,
Mike Ricigliano 22:17
he wouldn’t have been picked till the middle of the first round, say, right. But still, at least, at least 15, every
8Nestor Aparicio 22:22
team in the league that needed a pass rusher looked at him and said, Now we’ll do something else, right? That’s right, or we’ll wait later to take him, which was the Ravens policy. So that’s not a zero tolerance policy, right, right? That’s a mitigated risk policy, is what that is. That’s a mitigated risk. What difference does it make if Justin Tucker did or didn’t do this to these women, they don’t care. They don’t care. And so two months ago, after you and I did the show here, my wife and I were having one of those morning conversations when we get out of the shower, you know, she’s naked, doing her hair, doing her makeup. I got a towel. I’m soaking wet. We started this BS and drinking coffee, and we’re talking, and she’s doing her makeup in the mirror and she’s doing her eyes. And I get out of shower, she’s like, What do you think of this Tucker? This is early on, two months ago, right? And I said, I think he’s done. They gotta. They can’t have this these. And besides, he’s not that great kicker anymore, and they probably, deep down, know what a creepy duty is, so let’s get rid of him. And Jen looked at me in the mirror, looked up in the in the shower mirror. She’s like, he is a really good kicker. You know, I, you know my wife making an excuse for a guy who went around allegedly to 16 women and pull the stunt on a power play of, do you know who I am? I’m a man, and I’m so powerful that you can’t call the cops on me. You can’t do anything. And if you say I did anything, I’m going to call you the dirty rat. And if it ever winds up in the media, I’m going to call them the dirty rat. And if there’s 16 of you from 16 different worlds that find a reporter and tell this reporter this, I’m going to deny it and run from it, keep my job, and the Ravens, or some other team, is going to sign me and give cover to make so the Ravens know he’s going to kick in this league again. Yeah, he is going to kick in league again. He’s going to be convicted of nothing, guilty of nothing, and make $4 million a year for the next couple, three, five years again, all of that’s going to happen. So I mean, my wife to kick her to my wife’s point. He’s a really good kicker. And if you’re really good, you’re really good pass rusher, somebody’s going to draft you. Mike Green, right?
Mike Ricigliano 24:35
Absolutely. And, and, and, dude, I’m, I’m as guilty as Jen, because, as you know, I’m a Bills fan, and when all the stuff went down with OJ, I was the last guy to believe that. OJ, what
Nestor Aparicio 24:46
about Matt Ariza? What about who? Matt Ariza, the punter? All that. Oh, him too, right? Yeah, that
Mike Ricigliano 24:53
8all went down on him too, yeah. I mean, I, I don’t. I wasn’t following that as closely as. Yes, I was when OJ, when I was even more invested because I was living in the city, but yeah, I was like, he couldn’t have done it. He’s too good at duty, because, OJ Simpson, he’s OJ Simpson. He’s our running back. We need him. That’s my was my thinking and again, on this, on the green guy, by the time he
Nestor Aparicio 25:15
was murdering people, he wasn’t a good running back anymore. He was just, he was just a great American celebrity that could get away with murder.
Mike Ricigliano 25:21
Well, that’s the other thing. Is the value get away murder the guy running the country. Yes, I totally agree with that. Sorry, everyone who doesn’t like that. But, of course, exactly right. Exactly right. So Mike Green, I’m sure when he starts playing, you know, I’m gonna, I’m gonna be cheering when he’s doing this stuff. But it’s left a bad taste in my mouth that they that they drafted him. I just thought it was an unwise thing the draft, and that’s all given. What is
Nestor Aparicio 25:50
given unwise. Are you gonna not buy a ticket? You cannot go to the game? No, I’m not gonna. Okay, well, then, then what? Then, then there you have it. By there. Yeah, it’s
8Mike Ricigliano 25:57
a bad look for the team, just like you explained, they don’t care about bad looks. I know, I mean, I know the President doesn’t care about bad looks, but I, I would think this team, this team, if they cared about
Nestor Aparicio 26:08
bad looks, they wouldn’t be intimidating journalists in the middle of press conferences, if they cared about bad looks,
Mike Ricigliano 26:14
right? Well, it’s a bad look, that’s what, that’s what I’m saying. It’s a bad look. That press conference, I thought was somewhat uncomfortable, and I, you know, I was glad the journalists were pressing him on it.
Nestor Aparicio 26:24
8Well, Luke was one of them good. I mean, he should have,
Mike Ricigliano 26:29
you know, like that. That should have been a question, given the Tucker situation and giving the policy on this team, how do you justify that? How do you justify that pitch and date, they claim they had done their homework on it, they had interviewed him. Well, they didn’t seem, they didn’t seem totally comfortable saying that to me when I when I looked at the press conference. So, yeah, I mean, Steve
Nestor Aparicio 26:51
Bucha gives zero F’s about them, about about any of that. They’re making $200 million a year. And you know what? They care about winning. That’s all they care about. That’s
Mike Ricigliano 27:03
all they can as fans. We want them to care about winning, of course, yeah. And what cause, at what cost, and what
8Nestor Aparicio 27:09
accountability? Where’s the accountability?
Mike Ricigliano 27:11
I think that’s where I had a little I had a problem. But I mean, as far as you know, football fans that are listening to your show, they’re probably happy that Mike Green was drafted in time, I’ll probably be happy if, if things pan out that they drafted Mike Green too, you know, because he’ll be a good football player, and maybe he’s cleared. But if he’s not cleared, and you know, some of this stuff comes back to haunt him, it’s just going to be another ugly mark for this team. I think.
Nestor Aparicio 27:37
Can’t you find a guy without sexual assault allegations in an off season where your kickers being chart being accused of 16 different events, I
Mike Ricigliano 27:46
8think 10 hours ago, there were guys, you know, there were guys that maybe weren’t going to drop to them like that, can’t
Nestor Aparicio 27:51
all be choir boys. To Costa would always say to me, can’t all be choir boys. He’s
Mike Ricigliano 27:55
right about that. I mean, we’re not the only team that has all these kind of, you know, issues this. Look at the bangles from years back, you know they who they who they gonna rest? Yeah, right, exactly. So, I mean, there’s other there’s plenty of other teams that I have these, these issues too. I just was hoping that our team would be a little bit above that, and they’re not. We wind
Nestor Aparicio 28:14
up talking about when the baseball team stinks. We don’t need to talk about this right now. They don’t play football for five months.
8Mike Ricigliano 28:22
The rest of the draft seemed pretty good to me, except for I was surprised they didn’t draft any big dudes you know on the defensive line. But beyond you know, and with 11 picks, you thought they’d draft a few. Would
Nestor Aparicio 28:32
you have done a nasty Mike Green cartoon after drafting him? Would you be of that voice from a cartoonist standpoint? I think I would have put in a jail cell somewhere in there.
Mike Ricigliano 28:42
It wouldn’t have been that strong, you know. I mean, what would it have been? I, I, I’m not proper pup
Nestor Aparicio 28:51
8as as our Lord, our Savior in the corner, speaking just like he did in the Oilers cartoon. For me, have the voice of God speaking to Steve Bucha and Eric da Costa and saying, zero tolerance is zero tolerance behind the pearly gates. I’m trying to help him with
Mike Ricigliano 29:07
good that would have been good. No one knows who proper pup is, except for you and I. But still, I know about the mystical
Nestor Aparicio 29:12
relic because we celebrated recently, right? Exactly was it was relic, by the way. I haven’t mentioned this on the air. It’s first time I’m going to mention it. It’s because you’re wearing an Oriole hat. Yeah, my relative Luis Aparicio celebrated his 91st birthday. Oh my god. On Tuesday, the 29th Happy Birthday, Louise and so Luis is the oldest living Baseball Hall of Famer.
Mike Ricigliano 29:37
I think that’s amazing, of course, and I learned
8Nestor Aparicio 29:41
that today, Willie Mays pass. Willie Mays passed, Louis became the oldest. Are you there? And yes, that’s it. Oh,
Mike Ricigliano 29:46
well, that’s, I think it’s cool. I did not know it’s a great fact. And I always love Louis Aparicio, so and he’s and he’s related to you. I have no you’re also related to Louis Aparicio. No,
Nestor Aparicio 29:55
little Louie. I’m little Nestor. I. I were sick is here. He is my co host with a K we’re gonna get some coconut shrimp. I tried to put an Oriole Yankee thing together tonight. I’m just gonna skip all of that. It’s all brought to you by the Maryland lottery. Back to the Future scratch. Also, we have these. I have not any $10,000 winner here yet. We’re seeing I’m hoping it’s you. Oh, there you go. Absolutely everybody gets over here tonight. You get one, you get one, you get a ticket, you get a chance. Howard perlo is gonna be joining us here. He is a local real estate guy. I’ve never really had him on the air. I have attended his incredible Maryland event. It’s a it’s a thing in Vegas, and it’s hot, it’s at a pool, and it’s nice, and lots of people are there. And I got invited for years and years and years, and I finally went last year, and guess what? I’m going back, not just because Sammy Hagar and the Go Go’s are playing there. I’m going Bill Coles calls me an ambassador. Can you imagine me being an ambassador for anything other than crab cakes?
Mike Ricigliano 30:53
8Oh, and Dundalk, of course, you’re a great ambassador for doctor, and you’re a great ambassador for this my neighborhood. I mean, it’s appreciated, dude, you know you’ve, you’ve gotten that you’ve lived here 40 years, close to 40 years, 40 this August, yeah, for me on six
Nestor Aparicio 31:07
years, because we’re seeing is in retirement. He’s an artist, strange, and he didn’t know what day it was, so I called him, I’m like, Are you coming? And he comes in, like, oh, all that. Okay. He lives two blocks away, and he’s getting older, and yes, but he is on the yoga mat, so he’s in peak physical condition. So he ran down here to do the show today, tomorrow, and you’re doing so listen, get yourself a beer, because I know you enjoy a beer here. Get yourself a little natty bow or something. Mars is going to come back on Today is a momentous occasion here, not just because we have Howard perlo on. We had Jamie Costello. We had Senator Cory McRae on. We are today, when you come back onto the set in about a half an hour, we’re gonna have, for the first time ever, here on the show, the recreation of the Burke’s crab melt, which is, I need a like, a moment. So I discovered that when she sends me home with these softball crab cakes here, 11 ounces, like where her mom’s hands were, 11 ounces, which is why they’re so big. Yeah. And I take them home and I quarter them, like two and a half ounces each, and I get bees English muffins. Those are the ones in the refrigerated section. Okay, yeah, so they’re fresh. I take them out, I get the crab cake just right. I take it raw, cook it up, and make them in fours. And then I take my English muffins, and then I get some extra sharp cheddar cheese. Got to be extra sharp, and I pile that on there, and I put it in the broiler.
Mike Ricigliano 32:35
Oh, so you make your Okay, yeah,
Nestor Aparicio 32:37
I did this. I did it with a Costas crab cake about two years ago, and Costas crab cakes aren’t they don’t taste like Berks is did Coco’s crab cake tastes that way? Costas is a little more East Side, little more salty, little more delicious. Delicious. You can make a crab melt any way you want, right? But there’s only one place that I take the crab meat home, because I’ve taken home from don’t tell any these crab people. I take the crab cakes home and I fry them in a pan. They don’t want to see I fry it, right? So what I did, because I’m trying to get skinny and svelte like you, I crab melted, put all that cheese on there. And when I did the Cocos one about a year ago, I went home and I was so proud of myself. I took one bite, I had to, like, put it down and get up and walk away from I’m like, That’s the Burke’s crab. I haven’t tasted that in 15 years, you know. And her coleslaw is the exact recipe from Burke’s. So the coleslaw with the crab melt with the French fries. The only thing’s missing is a frosted Michelob light, not that ultra Michelob proper Michelob light in the silver label that they would bring me in the frosted goblin. So every time I’ve had it the last year, I text Mars, and I’m like, I am eating that crab cake that you made me take home. And said, take it home. Your wife will enjoy it. And I wind up making a crab melt out of it. And finally, after a year of hounding her, she has made it the burger night special tonight. Wow. So the crab melt especially,
8Mike Ricigliano 34:08
is this the first time tonight’s
Nestor Aparicio 34:10
the night? Wow, like, it’s like a Rod Stewart song, quite a stay with my windows, really is a moment. So tonight we’re gonna have the crab melt. Marsh is gonna come on. We’re gonna do that. I’m gonna give some back to the futures away for some later. Arriving lunch. Arrivals here at Cocos. They may be coming April, because the Morgan State graduation is going to pack this joint. We’re over on the east side of town. Cocos is great. Lauraville is great, right down the street from Zeke’s coffee. Come on over right by, right by for six house.
Mike Ricigliano 34:36
Can I plug one little place that’s right down the street here? I know you love this neighborhood. It’s a place called the den. It’s, it’s right down the street from here. It’s a nice little bar. It’s a little speak easy for the end, we’ve, we’ve discovered it as a neighborhood. It’s a little place to go in watch some of the games. They got a lot of great TVs the bar turns. His name is Mike young guy today. Big Raven. Ravens fan. Big oats fans. So, yeah, check out the den on Harford road. Really cool place. I
Nestor Aparicio 35:04
8went to Atlanta last night. I walked two miles from downtown up to Uptown to go to this pizza joint that’s renowned. It’s a Michelin. It was great. It’s called antico A N T I say co pizzeria, Napolitano. So I’m walking up there. I saw a couple things. I saw a little robot delivering tacos. He was driving along, and it like got up on me, and I’m like, Oh, you got tacos. I gotta get out of the way. So I filmed it, you know, but I got on the other side of campus, and I was feeling a little wet, and it was 84 degrees, I was parched, and I saw a sign that said beer. And I went in this bar, and I had to pee, and I said, Give me a beer. And a girl gives me the beer. And I said, How much? And she said, $2 I had three $2 beers in Atlanta. I let yesterday, it was like, turn back the clock day. It was like 1983
Mike Ricigliano 35:55
Oh yeah. I mean, $2 beers. Nice. They the marsh
Nestor Aparicio 35:59
loves me, but she doing $2 beers tonight. No $5 beer, maybe, but not $2 beer. We’re six gonna go have a beer. Howard’s gonna step in. We’re gonna talk about Las Vegas, real estate, Maryland people, networking, community, charity. What else? That’s it. I got it all in. It’s all brought to you by the Maryland lottery. Back to future scratch offs. We are Cocos. I am Nestor. We are wnst am 1570 Towson, Baltimore, we never stop talking to rasig soon and fun and crab cakes, stay with us. You.
