Setting the initial course to tee off with Coppin State golf program

The Eagles have landed golf at Coppin State and new head coach Elam Ruff tells Nestor his journey to the sport and launching the inaugural season of the sport on the West Baltimore campus. Getting into the swing of MEAC competition and all of the information on the new program is here.

Nestor Aparicio interviews Elam Ruff, the new head coach of men’s and women’s golf at Coppin State University, about launching the program. Ruff discusses starting from scratch, recruiting three women and two men, and using the transfer portal. He highlights the unique opportunity for high-level golf at a D1 level and the potential for partial scholarships and merit-based aid. Ruff shares his background, transitioning from basketball to golf coaching, and his passion for developing student-athletes. Coppin State’s golf program will compete in fall and spring seasons, with practices at local courses and community outreach planned.

• [ ] Recruit additional men’s and women’s golfers to reach target rosters (aim for 6–8 players per side) using high school recruiting and the transfer portal; stagger classes and secure signees to build inaugural teams.
• [ ] Reach out to local golf courses and facilities to identify and secure practice and competition venues (short-list partners that provide tournament-appropriate yardage and availability).
• [ ] Finalize and confirm the program competition calendar for the academic year (target ~5–6 fall events and ~6 spring events plus conference championship) and register for required tournaments.
• [ ] Work with Classic Five courses to design and build out a short-game practice facility or identify suitable short-game practice locations for team development.
• [ ] Foster and formalize a partnership with the Baltimore municipal corporation to access municipal courses and coordinate practice time, community events, and player development opportunities.
• [ ] Plan and host golf clinics for the local community and area schools (youth and adults) once team members arrive, including identifying dates, locations, and outreach to target schools.

Coppin State Golf Program Launch

• Nestor Aparicio introduces the Maryland crab cake tour and other community initiatives, including the Maryland lottery and GBMC.
• Nestor mentions his excitement about Coppin State’s golf program and his Eagles gear.
• Nestor welcomes Elam Ruff, the new head coach of men’s and women’s golf at Coppin State, and discusses the unique nature of starting a golf program from scratch.
• Elam Ruff explains the challenges and opportunities of starting a golf program at Coppin State, including the lack of a golf course and the need to compete at a high level.

Recruiting and Program Development

• Elam Ruff discusses the recruiting process, mentioning the excitement and apprehension from potential recruits.
• Nestor and Elam talk about the transfer portal and its importance in recruiting for golf.
• Elam explains the unique opportunity Coppin State offers to play high-level golf and the potential for partial scholarships and merit-based scholarships.
• Nestor and Elam discuss the importance of recruiting student-athletes who are committed to both golf and academics.

Elam Ruff’s Background and Passion for Golf

• Elam shares his background, including his upbringing in Washington, DC, and his initial exposure to golf through his grandfather.
• Elam describes his journey from coaching basketball to coaching golf, including his experiences at Fareham College and his first head coaching job.
• Nestor and Elam discuss the differences between coaching golf and other sports, emphasizing the mental and technical aspects of golf.
• Elam highlights the importance of developing student-athletes both on and off the golf course.

Coppin State’s Campus and Community Involvement

• Nestor and Elam discuss Coppin State’s campus and the sense of community and family among students and faculty.
• Elam mentions the ongoing construction and development at Coppin State as a sign of growth and investment in the institution.
• Nestor shares his own experiences with Coppin State and the importance of the school’s role in educating the community.
• Elam talks about the plans for community engagement, including golf clinics and outreach programs.

Golf Program Schedule and Facilities

• Elam outlines the schedule for the Coppin State golf program, including the fall and spring seasons and the number of tournaments.
• Nestor and Elam discuss the challenges of finding practice facilities and the potential partnerships with local golf courses.
• Elam explains the importance of having a practice facility that matches the yardage of tournament courses.
• Nestor and Elam talk about the unique aspects of golf practice and the need for flexibility in scheduling and location.

Future of Coppin State Golf Program

• Elam expresses his excitement and commitment to building a successful golf program at Coppin State.
• Nestor and Elam discuss the potential for Coppin State to become a leader in golf among HBCUs.
• Elam highlights the importance of community support and involvement in the success of the golf program.
• Nestor concludes the interview by expressing his support for Coppin State and his excitement for the upcoming golf season.

SUMMARY KEYWORDS

Coppin State golf, Elam Ruff, men’s and women’s golf, recruiting, transfer portal, HBCU tournaments, PGA works collegiate tournament, partial scholarships, student-athlete development, Baltimore municipal golf courses, golf clinics, community outreach, MEAC schools, golf program launch, Coppin State campus.

SPEAKERS

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Elam Ruff, Nestor Aparicio

Nestor Aparicio  00:01

Welcome home. We are W, N, S T am 1570 Towson, Baltimore. We are Baltimore, positive, positively. Get the Maryland crab cake tour back out on the road. We are doing a cup of soup or bowl. It is our biggest charity community initiative of the year. It begins on February the second. We’re gonna start things at faith leads. On that Monday, I will have scratch. Also the Maryland lottery to give away. Have some candy cane cash still in my stocking that I will be bringing out into February for the love season in Feb and well, also the Super Bowl as well. It’s all brought to you by friends at the Maryland lottery, in conjunction with their friends at GBMC, keeping me healthy, helped me save my life last year. And tell you what cop and state’s been on my mind a little bit here. And so we went through the holidays the Big South Carolina game, and Ruffin bells told me that I got parking as long as I show up early, because it is a big deal going on over cop and this time frame. And I have my Eagles a belt buckle at I got my cop and gear on which I wear this a lot of the time. But I, I don’t know that I’ve ever talked on cop and bowling. I’ve done softball, done baseball, basketball, haven’t done any ping pong or table tennis, and certainly no pickleball yet. But golf, golf and Coppin State, it is my pleasure to welcome Elam ruff on he is the new skipper of all things. They call you a golf coach, golf, head coach, golf, CEO, golf professor. What exactly is it? What’s your official title?

Elam Ruff  01:28

You can have all varieties. You can get director of golf. I’m not that’s not my official title, but you’ll see that amongst the sport. But just head coach of men’s and women’s golf at Coppin.

Nestor Aparicio  01:39

What does that mean? I mean, give me a little golf cop. And people don’t, maybe not thinking about it, like, yeah, I talked title nine here. I’ve talked a lot of n, i L, I’ve talked a lot of that. I Some people would say there’s not even a golf course at COP, and what are they hitting the ball over my diamond? Exactly.

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Elam Ruff  01:57

So I agree. It’s a unique situation for us. We haven’t had golf for over 20 years, and at that time, we definitely didn’t have two teams involved in golf. So it’s an exciting situation where we’re, you know, competing with other schools that have it. A lot of me at schools have it, especially women’s golf right now, and so we’re looking for an opportunity to, you know, compete at a high level on this d1 landscape in terms of that, sorry, one second. No No

Nestor Aparicio  02:33

worries. No worries at

Elam Ruff  02:37

all. Yeah. So we’re excited for the opportunity. We have three signees on the women’s side right now and two on the men’s so we are moving very quickly when it comes to this thing. You know, it’s a budding project, and we’re looking forward to the opportunity.

Nestor Aparicio  02:55

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Well, let’s talk about how this even happens. Maybe I get doc Carter on as well, you know, talk a little bit about it. Scott, scholarship, non scholarship, beginning a program, which is what you’ve been charged with doing. Was there such a thing where you brought into literally started from scratch?

Elam Ruff  03:12

Scratch? Yeah, literally started from scratch. Like I said, I didn’t inherit any players, so it’s a great opportunity.

Nestor Aparicio  03:19

Interesting recruiting, right? Like, who are you? You didn’t have a program last year, but it’s kind of exciting to be a part of the first team, right?

Elam Ruff  03:26

Also, blank canvas. So, you know, the conversations I’ve been having, some people are like, Yeah, I love the idea of this. Some people are a little apprehensive. So, I mean, you get all spectrums, but you know, when you’re doing recruiting, regardless of the sport, in any profession, you want people that want to be there. So that’s what we’ve been learning and receiving. So it’s been exciting. I mean, we don’t think about golf. You don’t need that many. You’re not feeling a basketball team or football team. We’re getting six to eight on each side, and right now we’re at three. So it’s a good number for us, because we are moving towards the transfer portal at that point, because we want to stagger

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Nestor Aparicio  04:11

the class. Oh, man, you got transfer portal and golf? Yep, absolutely. Jeez, man, this is I’ve been doing sports radio 35 years, dude. You know what I mean? Like, I’ve talked to all of them, back to Dean Smith’s been on his show. You know what I mean? John Wooden has been on my show. So, like, I’ve talked about all of it, I explain that part of it to me, because I think my audience should be like me, like there’s a portal for crawls at COP and state.

Elam Ruff  04:35

Really, there is Yeah, and so for the portal, it opens up for us, for our sport pretty late, though, which is, can be a tough situation, but it doesn’t open up until, like June, pretty much.

Nestor Aparicio  04:48

But everybody knows about the football and basketball portal now. It’s like, right?

Elam Ruff  04:54

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And you don’t see as in some sports, you probably don’t get that many kids transferring, but, I mean, they. Have it for every sport. You can literally log in there. You can see, hey, this kid, this kid, this kid has been to this school, you know. So you can reach out and talk to them if they’re in the portal. And then other things, you other processes you have to go through. Once you look, you’re looking to talk to them. But, yeah, it’s pretty cool. You can a lot of times, you’ll see kids in there that you know aren’t playing at a same thing that happens in football and basketball. They aren’t, you know, competing at the school they’re at, or they’re at the d2 level, and they’re really, really good, and they’re looking for an opportunity to take a step up. So you’ll see all types of that, but yeah,

Nestor Aparicio  05:40

you have to offer. So if I’m a parent or if I’m a student, I say, all right, Coach, you know, I can hit it a little bit. I’m a junior at Calvert Hall, Loyola, wherever. I mean, just around town, you know, like, how do I how does it work? I’m fascinated by the level, and also the part where, like, you’re starting this thing from scratch, at COP and and going out and saying, This is where it is in, 2026 almost said 2025 but it’s

Elam Ruff  06:07

over with, right? Yeah, yeah. No, I’ve been doing the same thing. No. Well, we have to offer, you know, a unique opportunity to play high level golf. We have, there’s a few HBCU tournaments that we compete in every year, one of which that you have the opportunity to qualify for is the PGA works collegiate tournament at the end of the season, roughly around May, early May, and that’s on the Golf Channel. So that’s a huge event and a pretty cool event that the young men and young women have an opportunity to play themselves into. But it’s just the if you’re if you’re a young woman or young man that has played golf at a high level on the junior circuit, you get an opportunity this we’re providing the opportunity to do that on a d1 circuit. You can go to school for much less. You’re just like any other collegiate athlete. Typically, we give out partial scholarships, but that’s factored into you know, that includes, though it doesn’t include, but you also get merit based scholarships as well, financial aid, things of that nature. So well, you

Nestor Aparicio  07:25

want the kid to stay in class when they get there, right? You want to drill a true student athlete to be a golfer, right? Absolutely. You’re not recruiting Tiger Woods, right? I mean, we’re not yet, right? Not yet, not yet. Elon Ross here, yeah, you’re trying, though you’re

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Elam Ruff  07:37

getting no sir, yeah, exactly. We definitely trying. Well,

Nestor Aparicio  07:41

Stanford might be in line ahead of you, the way they were for Tiger, I’m not sure, but was here. He’s the new head coach at Coppin. So you know, the obvious to me is young African American Coach Tiger Woods. I was out at the PGA at the the event that we had up here at caves a couple months ago. And like, look, I’m Hispanic, I’m Venezuelan, you know, I’m a baseball last name. Like, it is minority involvement in sports. The minorities are not involved in it really becomes something where, like, you notice it. You go on the golf course and say, I’m the only one here that looks like me, or whatever. I certainly, from a golf perspective, my buddy RJ Shepherd comes on. He’s the pro over at Forest Park. Young African American likes baseball, likes the Ravens. Parents played, grandparents played, took him on a course. Now he’s a pro. It’s what he does for a living. But it’s, it’s an unusual thing, I guess, against all of golf. But for you, give me your background, because you’re, you’re like a DC kid, right?

Elam Ruff  08:40

Yeah, I’m from Washington, DC, born and raised. It’s funny, I actually fell into golf, so I didn’t really play like my friends growing up. My friends didn’t play, but my grandfather did, but my grandfather didn’t live where I was, so I only really played in the summers. And you know, as a kid, I tell this story all the time. You know, as a kid, you want to do what your friends are doing. So I was basketball, football, baseball for the most part, and so I kind of always had that background of playing, but it wasn’t something I pursued until later on, and then I ended up was actually coaching basketball at the time. And then the golf coach at the high school I was coaching at knew I played, so he asked me. He was like, Hey, do you want to come help out? You’re free in the spring. Do you want to come? I was like, Sure. Why not?

Nestor Aparicio  09:37

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Ended up like, coaching you, yeah, that’s what you like, right? Like, literally, okay, it

Elam Ruff  09:41

was and so, but that spring, I enjoyed it. I loved it. So from there, I actually took a d3 basketball coaching job that summer, so I didn’t get to pursue it more than that, that moment, and then. So from that d3 position, I really didn’t it. Enjoy that situation. It was a great experience, but it wasn’t, wasn’t in my heart. So I ended up going back to high school coaching golf and then hatting for some professional tournaments, and at congressional in Washington, DC, that’s

Nestor Aparicio  10:14

a beautiful course, right? I mean, that’s, you know, that’s where Tiger, that’s where they always had the big event down there, Potomac, right?

Elam Ruff  10:19

Yeah, unbelievable. And then that led me to Fareham college. So see

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Nestor Aparicio  10:24

that’s a different life being out on a golf course as a coach as opposed to being in a gym, right? Like different thing. But I could see where you could fall in love with that, especially congressional Yeah, exactly.

Elam Ruff  10:35

So that led me to my first head coaching job at Fareham college. It was a private school down in Southern Virginia.

Nestor Aparicio  10:44

I got a friend that went to Fareham College. Is an art he’s one of the greatest artists I’ve ever seen from 40 years ago, but I know a fairham college because he made it famous. For me,

Elam Ruff  10:52

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it’s so funny. It’s such it’s it’s a school that you would never think people would know. But I’ve run, and since my time there, I’ve run into so many people that not at least one person that went it’s a it’s a unreal thing, but that was a great experience. I the president and the ad down there believed in me. We helped revitalize that program, so to speak. We grew that program from six golfers when I started to 16 golfers when I left. So some good things happening down there, but that’s how, that’s how this, you know, story came about, and where I’m at now and then. Doctor, I mean, excuse me. Ad Carter, he he knew of me. You know, we talked for a little bit, he gave me an opportunity to interview for the position. And I can’t thank him enough for this, because this is a dream for me. And I think what I’m trying to convey to young, many women that are looking to come here, or I’m trying to recruit, is just, you know, and this was my opportunity. I’ll give it all I can. If you want to be a part of that, we’re going to compete at high level, you know, let’s get after it.

Nestor Aparicio  12:08

What do you love about it at this point, you’re like, mean, obviously you’re building the program. There’s a there’s a passion that sits there, above and beyond the basketball and all of that, to bring people in and compete and try and I think with golf, it’s one of those things. You can really help someone if you know what you’re doing. Every golf pro I’ve ever had that’s ever looked at me or my swingers has given me something and saying you’re doing this, you’re doing that, that there is, there’s instant, you know, you can fix people swing. You can fix you can make golfers better. And I would always say, and this is, it’s kind of cocky of me, Elam and you, but I know you’ve played basketball and baseball. If you played tennis, I played a lot of tennis, too, at baseball as a catcher, pitcher, shortstop, all of that, I said, the ball doesn’t move. The ball sits there. This is not that hard to do. In baseball and tennis, you got to go where the ball’s basketball, even hockey, you got to go to bucks, go like this is you and you in the air and literally, right? And so

Elam Ruff  13:07

that’s the thing is, that’s that, that part of it is just like, it’s me versus me, and we got to figure things out. You can’t look for to post any blame. You know what I mean? That you see sometimes in sports, you can’t you can’t hop on the refs. You can’t hop on the teammate. You got to figure it out, and the mental piece of it, and just from one from like battling, and also just being okay with making mistakes, but also learning how to bounce back from those mistakes, you see that instantly. And then also just how do I go about doing this? Like the intricate details that you have to the decisions you have to make on the golf course, and just how they one affects the other, you just see that throughout the round. That’s the things I love. And then just the overall development of a student athlete making sure they’re having a great college experience with golf and without golf, and then getting a higher education those, those are the things that stick out to me and that are important to me.

Nestor Aparicio  14:13

Well, that’s cool for me, but copping, because we got basketball this week. You know, I have talked to AI specialists. I had someone on here that was a quantum physics major like I’ve had. And then I get golf coaches on. I get basketball. Stu has been on with me recently as well, so he makes a little sports in but it is kind of a sports time of the season, right? Basketball, lot of excitement around the campus and all that. Give me a little Coppin piece for you. What you know about Coppin? You look to be little bit younger than me. And I was around. I had Fang and all the kids on back in 98 when they won the big game, when the 15 and the two and everything happened in the NCAA Tournament. That’s how a lot of people would know about Coppin. How did you know about Coppin before you came to work for Coppin? So.

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Elam Ruff  15:00

Give you quick so 98 I was nine years old, when that alright, alright. So that, there you go. But I learned just, you know, the Baltimore area being so close to where I grew up, you kind of knew of it. And you know, it’s two HBCUs up this way. So you have an idea, but interesting enough, I have never been on Coppins campus up until when I came to kind of get a sense of what this would be like.

Nestor Aparicio  15:32

Well, it’s a small campus. You got to come to it. It’s in West Baltimore. You don’t just drive through the Coppin campus. It’s destination.

Elam Ruff  15:39

Yeah, exactly. The most I came up here for is the aquarium. So I never been

Nestor Aparicio  15:45

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well, I gotta get your crab cake, my man, come on, exactly.

Elam Ruff  15:48

But nonetheless, you learn once you get older, you know, you understand that the HBCU landscape, and especially from a sports standpoint, you see cop and pop up here and there from basketball and women’s and men’s basketball and things of that nature. So well volleyball would say they were the champs. Well, absolutely, but at that time, I wasn’t, but you’re absolutely, absolutely right. And coach Wallace and and those guys have done it, and those young ladies have done an amazing job. It was, it was such a super experience watching them compete this year. I can’t. I learned so much of what having pride for this school looks like through watching them. So that was I

Nestor Aparicio  16:33

feel that every time I call, I would tell Dr Jenkins, I mean, it’s one of the reasons we work together, is I, you know, I come at this it’s our 14th year as the flagship for COP and sports. And then last couple of years, we’ve just been talking about the important things in the city, and the teachers and the students and the education all that. So it’s not just golf or whatever, but obviously, knowing you know the Morgan Coppin thing here and and the legacy of the basketball team kind of putting it on the map. But topping here, top is a teacher school. And you find that out when you’re hanging with the mayor at a cop and event, he’s like, she taught me math, she taught me Gi. He’s taught and so, I mean, Coppin has educated our community, really, for a long, long time. And I think that that shows up in the spirit of how local it is when someone an outsider, including myself, I’m from Dundalk. It’s not, an insider, but, I mean, but when you come into the Koppen family, you feel like, my goodness, this is a special place. And I think you felt that the first six months, right?

Elam Ruff  17:28

100% you definitely get it. And you see, people really care about the institution. And that goes in all facets, but, but you definitely get the sense of that you feel, that family feel, that we always talk about, you get it, people are willing to help you out. I know people in my department that have, you know, assisted me in these first few months, which I, you know, I don’t know how I’ll be getting some stuff done if I did, I didn’t have their assistance, like, like the bowling

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Nestor Aparicio  18:02

coach, so you start a new program, so you drink it from the fire hose a little bit, right?

Elam Ruff  18:06

Exactly, exactly, so, but no, you just get the sense that this is a place people want to be, and you can see it. But one of my things that I always say about higher education is, if I go on campus and I don’t see anything, any construction, something being built, something’s wrong. And you walk on cub and you see storm getting built, other stuff going on, it’s just like, that’s how you know things are moving in the right direction, if you’re not continuously growing and building. It kind of, I look, I look at it a certain way. So that was one of the biggest things that I noticed. Like, I was at William Mary this this summer for golf camp, they had tons of construction going. And, I mean, it can be probably annoying for the kids, but, like, it shows you, it’s a direct reflection of money being put in, back into

Nestor Aparicio  19:03

there’s an investment being made. There’s no question about that. And it’s an investment for the near future and the far future as well. Even Officer, so your future’s golf and spring and so what does the schedule look like for you? And who do you play and where? And I know this, you’re not hitting golf balls off of the softball diamonds, you know, down there across from on Diamond into the parking lot. Where do you play?

Elam Ruff  19:27

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So we compete, actually, we’re fall and spring sports. So fall is like a preview season for us, and then spring is our championship season. So we’ll play about five to six tournaments in the fall and then six in the spring, culminating with whatever conference we’re in, ideally the me act, which is how things are hopefully being structured right now, but we’ll compete in a conference championship with all the other schools to see who goes to the NCAA tournament. So that’s how they. At books. So nonetheless, 12 tournaments each, each year, academic year, and then, from a practice standpoint, we’re looking to do a lot of cool things on campus, in terms of having an indoor space. But also we this area has a is so in golf, with with golf and tons of golf courses that are nearby to us, so we’re right now just kind of reaching out and seeing who can provide space for

Nestor Aparicio  20:31

all my classic fives, right? I mean, Forest Park, Carroll Park, only nine holes Mount Pleasant. They’re right around the corner from you, absolutely.

Elam Ruff  20:38

So we’ve been talking to some folks that that run the classic five in terms of building out a practice facility, a short game practice facility that we can utilize a lot of times. What you see, and I love the classic five, what you what we run into with the classic five though they’re great courses, they’re not long, as long as we need them to be in terms of yardage, like we’re playing 7000 yards, and sometimes the classic fives don’t stretch past 660, 500 which is okay. It’s just like we kind of have to find places that can show us a what we’ll see in a tournament in South Carolina. So that’s kind of so we’re trying to, we’re definitely want to, you know, foster that relationship with the classic five. And we’re doing so, so there’s

Nestor Aparicio  21:34

no such thing as a practice course you can you’re going a lot of places and playing golf in a lot of different ways, exactly, exactly, I haven’t thought about that like, you know, because I’m not a golfer, right? But, like, it’s certainly not, you know, playing like that, to say we’re going to play this course or that course, which is what, if you’re not belonging to a country club, you’d say I want to go play there or play here, or see something different, or meet different people, whatever, you know, drive, yeah, I mean, but like, a home floor for anyone. I mean, especially for your you talk about the bowling program you have there, or softball places where baseball, where they didn’t have home field, like, literally, you’re playing in other places.

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Elam Ruff  22:12

Yeah, right, yeah. So you, you have, and then that golf course may have, you know, an event going on that day, so you got to try to move somewhere else. So it’s, you’re always rained on, like baseball, you know, so you might have to move indoors. But no, we’ve definitely been fostering or starting a relationship with the Baltimore municipal corporation that runs the golf program. So it’s, I’m excited about that. It’s, we’re going to do a lot of great things. We’re going to be hosting golf clinics for the community. It’s some schools I’m trying to identify right now. So once my players get here, we’ll set up golf clinics for students in the area and even adults in the area. But we’ll try to utilize like Carroll Park, things of that nature. So we’re definitely going to be doing some things for with the class of five in the inner city.

Nestor Aparicio  23:03

So, all right, we got golf on the mind. Elam ruff is here. He is the coach of all things Coppin State. I got my Eagles belt buckle out. I got my cop and hey, Coppin. So hey, I appreciate you coming on and getting me a little how many of the MEAC schools have Morgan have a golf tournament, a golf team? Not yet. Okay, so this is kind of special. Okay, yeah,

Elam Ruff  23:23

it is. So we’re the first in this area, but you know, um, yes, has golf. They actually have a PGM program, so you can actually go there and do some some do some stuff in the golf industry.

Nestor Aparicio  23:34

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They got more space over there than we got in West Baltimore, for sure, yeah, but,

Elam Ruff  23:38

um, we’re in the same spot as they are, so I’m excited they, you know, their coach is amazing, but we’ll get a chance to compete against them. North Carolina Central, I think Norfolk is starting golf. Delaware State has women’s. I may be missing that’s okay,

Nestor Aparicio  23:57

but I mean, it’s not, no, it’s not like baskets, not built out. It’s something that’s being built out through the conference. Okay, yeah, well, hey, I’m educated. I you would have told me cop and had a golf program a year ago. I said was that, like the pool on the roof in my high school, that you’re you’re making up stuff, you know what I mean. But no, it’s real cop. And kicking off the golf season, Elon muff is the the new coach there. Men’s, women’s got a couple players adding more and and I will be over there to see the legend on Saturday as the gamecock’s lady. Gamecock’s coming Saturday, alright. Well, a fist bump for you and me. I’ll meet you. Gary digital Williams right at center court. Alright, sounds good. We’ll talk professional wrestling in a sweet science of boxing with digital. He’s another DC guy, alright. Well, excuse me, hold on, Hall of Famer. Gary digital Williams, yeah, I got to call him Hall of Famer. Now, he’s been my friend for a long, long time. So I’m gonna be visiting with everybody. So if you see me over at Coppin, I’m the guy with the long hair and the big heart. I am Nestor. We are W, N, S T am 1570 Towson, Baltimore, and we never stop talking Baltimore positive. Get out support the. The Eagles this week. Can I see the ladies at noon on Sunday? And you got nothing else to do, because the football team doesn’t even have a coach right now. So there it’s.