So, when is the next All Star Game in Baltimore and what will that look like?

Watching Cal Ripken go back to Seattle and pining away for another All Star Game in Baltimore again, Bill Cole and Nestor wist hopeful and realistically in discussing the 30th Anniversary of the Camden Yards classic and the future of our downtown and the next time the Midsummer Classic comes to Charm City.

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SPEAKERS

Bill Cole, Nestor Aparicio

Nestor Aparicio  00:01

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Welcome back W and S T, Towson Baltimore and Baltimore positive we are positively in the post all star game looks gonna be at the ballpark all weekend we got the Miami Marlins in town. There I call them the Florida Marlins. That would be so, you know, 30 years ago, the Dodgers coming down, they’re still the LA Dodgers, not the Brooklyn Dodgers. So Luke will be out there. You can follow him at Baltimore. Look, we’re gonna be doing the Maryland crab cake tours several times in the coming weeks. Coco’s on Thursday of this week. I’ll have scratch offs in the Maryland lottery, instant lottery scratch offs that had been very, very good luck, our friends and window nation somewhere around here, my bucket hat, I’ve worn my bucket hat during many pieces here this week. So far. As we get into summer season, you gotta protect yourself from the sun. Also, next Thursday, back to Catonsville, we’re going to be at the Beaumont in the afternoon. I’ve already got some Hall of Fame guests lined up for that. So I’m excited about that. And those are August 3 and fourth, we’re gonna be back in Dundalk to celebrate 25 years of W NSD. We’ll start at a Costas on the third. We’re going to be a drug city on the fourth. I’ve already started the line people up man. Andy Muller, my original producer come in a drug city, Johnny Oh, come in a drug city, John Allen. Come into Costas so I’ve got all sorts of people that are like lining up fitting it all in I don’t know where Bill Cole is gonna be. All I know is he had never had a fadeless crabcake in his life until I showed him the way and the means and Lex in the market. He now joins us after the off Did you watch the all star game? Did you I mean, you’re enough of an Oreo guy that you would be Austin hazed up, right. Wait, is

Bill Cole  01:33

that that already happened? Oh, you

Nestor Aparicio  01:36

missed the all star game. God. Come on.

Bill Cole  01:39

I’ve been. I’ve been busy. But I did watch a little bit of whatever they are calling the Home Run Derby now although it’s

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Nestor Aparicio  01:46

Adley rutschman stad. Pitching on. It’s sort of

Bill Cole  01:50

bizarre.

Nestor Aparicio  01:50

Did your dad ever pitch to you? Now? My dad pitch to me. Yeah. My dad’s arm was no good. By the time I got. By the time my dad was 50 years older may still like wiffle ball was tough for him at 62. But he could shoot jump shots. My dad?

Bill Cole  02:04

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Well, yes. And my certainly played one on one with my father. Plenty that right?

Nestor Aparicio  02:08

Yeah. So you were 12? And you started beating him?

Bill Cole  02:13

I don’t know. 12. If I did, but correct. It does correlate with when I started beating him that that stopped happening. Yeah.

Nestor Aparicio  02:19

Look, man, I talked to Luke about this. And I talked to Rosenfeld a little bit about it. Let it

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Bill Cole  02:25

hold on before I want to get back to the Feedly crabcake thing. Oh, sure. So I have been asking because you made me feel extremely guilty that I didn’t know and hadn’t experienced. I’m not the only one. So the good news.

Nestor Aparicio  02:40

The new Lexington market.

Bill Cole  02:42

Yes, that’s what I was gonna say. The good news is I’ve been out there like pushing that crabcake in its original nature to as many people that you know, it’s now a fascinating thing. So I hope it actually translates that’ll be fun.

Nestor Aparicio  03:00

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Look, anybody can come to any of these places and people say you’re nondenominational. Everybody comes up now. Their newest thing isn’t even asking about chat steal anymore. They just want to know my favorite crabcakes especially in the summer, you know, they want to and they’ve all seen the video of me opening the crab the you know, the lollipop way with damy. So I you know, I have a little bit of a crab motif about uh, you know what I’m doing around here, but, yeah, it’s crab cakes season. I am. I’m delighted to get back Coco’s is because I love Marcel I’ve known Marcela forever and ever and ever from the Emerald tavern, one of my first sponsors back in 9393. So it’s gonna be a great day with her on Thursday. So come on down below I wanted to bring this up and I’ll take my my fun window nation hat off here 866 90 nation. And by the way, thank you for helping us with our NST roofing and guttering and messing and raining and like because they’ll call us by the way, rural farms coffee in my coal roofing mug since 1990 They’ve been helping chumps like me clean up messes on the roof that they don’t understand. All Star game and you know, the rutschman thing we’re talking about Batista being the goat in the game Tuesday night looking I got into this a little bit and it’s not Luke’s thing on the business side. You and I have talked lease, you know Angelo’s at some point on Monday Rob Manford mentioned Baltimore this place Camden Yards as an all star game home in the future. Atlanta Toronto I know somebody else is in the way Atlanta is gonna get it because they have all city built right and the all star game has now come and gone and John Angelo set by the all star break we’ll have something what I had was a leak from Politico the other day that he’s looking for federal money. Federal money okay, so I don’t know what that even entails because like the only thing federal I can see here is where all the money is the Depository right that sits at the at the foot of the street where I used to live. And I don’t know about the parking lot. There’s a freeway that goes I mean, I I don’t But everything else is sort of privately held. I don’t know what they’re trying what John wants to build down there. But do you support this program because the Baltimore positive in the city and sports and blubbed nasty nasty blah, blah, blah ravens and all that. And the ravens are set their lease and maybe one day, Steve will put his big boy pants on and lobby for us to get a draft here. Maybe we’ll have the draft party once Green Bay gets it la everybody’s gonna get it before we get it. Right. Indianapolis is all set up because they’re set up to do so there’s sunshine places, there’s just a lot of places for them to go that aren’t Baltimore, right? They’ll kiss the acid the new owner in DC and put it on the Mall in DC long before they’re gonna bring it here are time to get the all star game came in when Mr. Angelo’s decided to sue the league, all of his business partners hold it to the point where he’s in Dementieva now and his kid has to pick it up. No lease there’s no lease so talking about the all star game is crazy, but there’s no lease. But when all if they had professionals here they had grownups all this would be wrapped together in some bow that in the end would be a lease the new city that John wants the new casino that he wants to build into the heavens, because everybody’s gonna bet on baseball right? We did that last week you and me. The All Star game and Baltimore we get it we don’t get it like they were these goofy orange and black uniforms they would wear here whenever it pajamas when they were put on I just the all star game 30 years ago, where were you? Because that’s really the question for me is I want to way back for anybody that remembers this was a big, big deal. It wasn’t the stadium. We got the all star Larry Lucchino had his ish together. And I don’t know the PJ Brightman or Johnny, I don’t, I don’t know that Steve shotty. And Sasha, I know Sashi brown doesn’t have his dish together, because I haven’t met him. And he hasn’t been nice to me. And I’m a fan and I’m a customer and I reach out to 1000 people every day, so shame on him. But I TJ Brightman, that’s another story altogether. He ran my competitor for years. And at some point, maybe we’ll have a covert lunch. But I would just say, the leadership, we talked so much about the mayor and the governor and politicians and business leaders and all the banks and, and and crown gasoline and everybody getting together when we were kids and bringing this all star game, you’re there was a big deal. I just the all star game would be a big lift here. You know what I mean? It would be a thing. But I don’t know that. Anybody that Dan at the baseball stadium has the wherewithal to try to reel that in or make that happen. And we’re gonna find out.

Bill Cole  07:33

Yeah, I don’t I mean, what is there like 30 some odd teams? I don’t even I can’t, because they were talking expansion

Nestor Aparicio  07:41

the other day to which is so when they say they don’t have a home for Oakland and Tampa has been there for general? Yeah, the the old vice president of the Tampa rays, my dear friend, Rick Vaughn came on the program and said, I don’t know that baseball is going to work in Tampa and he lives there. He’s lived there. 25 years. That said,

Bill Cole  07:57

with 30 teams, you kind of almost always have someone creating a new stadium or right. So like, is this really just a product that follows the new stadiums three or four years after they’re built? I mean, it’s designed to do that. Yeah, I mean, that kind of seems to be like hey, come check out my new house and let’s show it off. And we’ll bring people in from around the country and you make it easy for them to get there and they get they experience it and then then they want to come back for like when their team travels to that city so so I get all

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Nestor Aparicio  08:34

the whole world watching the all star game and you know if the top 25% of people who love baseball, who go to game spend money wait line for bobbleheads wait in line for autographs, fake fans, just fans if they are even people like I don’t do any of that, but I’m a fan. I watch the game every night. And I love the history of the game. My last name is Aparicio but you put it on the one thing you saw Tuesday and Monday, if you watch any of the abutting stuff, like I watched the MLB Network during the day Tuesday, there’s a red carpet. There’s a gala they did in front of pike place with a fish overlooking their building this big thing, because you could never get up the hill down to the urban to Seattle. Nope. I’ve been to Seattle many many times. And this is giant hill. It’s a cliff. And there was never any way to get down there. There’s a freeway built through it. It’s so it looks like they’re doing a lot of things from the overhead. And I remember I was at the All Star game in 2001 with each row and I put all my pictures up on social media Tuesday night with Tony Gwynn and Bruce Bochy and Sammy Sosa like Ken Rosenthal is my co host, right? So Seattle got shown off, like in a big way in whatever way that is that I looked at it the weather looked at they all just were bragging how beautiful it was. And it was beautiful, because it can be really crappy in Seattle, it can be raining. I’ve been there. You saw Fraser, you know, you can see what it would be. But it was beautiful. And I mean this in the best way. I looked at it and I’m like, I want to get back Seattle I’m looking for, you know, like, I need a reason. Now the Jets, the Austro Miata can’t wait for Seahawks game every eight years. But I like I like Seattle. And when you see it, you’re like, I want to go there and that that’s the mission supposed to be the benefit of yes, that is

Bill Cole  10:15

that is 100% the mission? I think what? So the preceding decisions to that. So before you build that monstrosity that, you know, is the Seattle ballpark? I don’t even remember, I don’t even know what it’s called, but Safeco Field is what it Yes. Okay, has a retractable roof. I mean, it’s pretty, you know, pretty amazing feat of engineering. But anyway, before you commit to that, the city has to reconcile what I think the question that everyone is having is, you know, in the in the 80s, and 90s. Everyone decided that this was city invigorating, right? Well, yeah, like, spend all this tax dollars, bring these teams in, make this part of the experience overseeing the Colts

Nestor Aparicio  11:05

was the reality, the cleat of reality, right, like losing the Colts was, oh, we can’t keep the Oreos if in this dump, like, so we have to

Bill Cole  11:17

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write it well, in the absence of a decision. So, you know, 83 I wasn’t my I did not have an adult brain.

Nestor Aparicio  11:25

I did I worked on paper, which is what makes me such a prick on the radio for all these, which is why they thrown me out. Because like, I’d really do No, I don’t make this up. I you know, I’ve really been at this in the important way for 25 years on the radio 32 years on, you know, doing this. And I was at I was at the news American then like that the Mayflower advanced team,

Bill Cole  11:49

my assumption is that there was a lack of direction and a lack of commitment. And, you know, the inability to have productive discussions, and then the trustee barber say, and then well, but he didn’t

Nestor Aparicio  12:01

really have a plan for him. They didn’t really he had a brand new stadium in Indianapolis. And they

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Bill Cole  12:06

did. Right. Right, he went and found another solution. And that’s, you know, history. So, in our city, I don’t know that we have a committed verbalized, like, direction, or an opinion about these teams, we certainly seem committed, and we’re spending money to update the Raven stadium. And, you know, but you would have planned what we have to do. I mean, that’s the biggest investment that you make. If it isn’t producing the economic prosperity to the city, in proportion to the amount of money you spend, you know, what are your other options? What are the you know, like, we have a really old Convention Center, like, rather than fixed the baseball stadium, would you rather have a state of the art three times the size convention center and dump all your money

Nestor Aparicio  13:03

adventures are gonna be saying, you’re in a business, by the way, Bill, cold call roofing here. Do you? Do you think events are still a thing? Yeah.

Bill Cole  13:12

Because I think that people don’t do the one off trips now. Right? Because I can zoom with you. But like, you can’t take away the fact that

Nestor Aparicio  13:21

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I can’t drink with you here. I can’t. Everyone

Bill Cole  13:25

agrees that personal is better. Right? But but not, it’s not so bad. Now, like we’re on the phone, we can actually see. So you’ll interconnect this way. And then the one time a year, hey, we’ll all go to this town. I have my dinners. I can shake hands, like you know, so

Nestor Aparicio  13:41

I’m the mayor of the city. And I’m not and you know, I put a little effort into maybe one day being the mayor of the city. I won’t be the mayor of the city though ever. But if if I were the mayor of the city and I’m sitting in your My constantly err, and we’re sitting here and say, Okay, tell me why Convention Center is really important. bring that into me. You know, bring that in, tell me the future, not the past, not what we built. 1988 Tell me what the next 10 years and how somebody’s going to have a convention here. When San Diego Nashville have all of these things that were released. We’re not going to have we’re just not now what do we have? What can we have? We can have a baseball team that’s good. We can have a stadium that’s good. We can have a Ripley’s Believe It or Not. We can have a science center we can have a meat cheese we can have. I don’t know what the harbor is going to be. We can have a roller coaster that goes across the harbour. We can have a glass bridge that signifies peace and black and white and rainbows and like we can there’s a million things you can do. But then I would say to you as the mayor, how important is an all star game weekend? How important is the baseball team? How many rooms are we filling up? Like what’s the real plan? What’s the real strategic vision? Not what can we do to put a bandaid on it today? And I don’t know This is part of my pitching with John Angelos. And at some point Wes Moore and I will sit together. People are running from me, literally, in regard to the stadium and the only reporter making calls. Maybe Pam would call it two people I don’t know. But I’m the only reporter who’s calling real people and say, We don’t have least, like how can that not be the lead story in every sports section, because if Jack Gibbons were running the place, or Marty, the my bosses, they’d be like, the teams nice and Richmond’s Nice. Get your ass out to Seattle and pull the commissioner up and ask him where the leases? That’s the question. These are the questions that should be asked, because it’s really about the city. To your point. To your point, when you go back to the mayor, the mayor is like, should we fix the convention center? Should we fix the hole where the mechanic was? Should we fix the 30 people that were shot last week in the south part of my city? Or should we get an all star game so we can have blimp shots overtop of urban blight? And if we don’t have the we don’t have the harbor fixed where we have in the gala? Right? You know what I mean? Have you?

Bill Cole  16:03

Well, you know, the other bill Cole told you a story not too long ago, though it didn’t come to fruition, but it had to do with, you know, the World Cup and all that other good stuff. And then the race track, by the way, all these things, you know, coming together all at the same time. And this, this, political leaders

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Nestor Aparicio  16:23

say to me, I had a political leader say to me, Bill, one that you know, and I know and I’ll leave his name out, because he would appreciate that. When I was thinking about running for mayor of Baltimore, I remember you and I had lots of conversations. I was thinking, what if I’m the mayor and the Preakness leaves? What does that mean? You know, I mean, I know they said, We own the prequel like all that, and I’m thinking to myself, what would it mean? The Preakness is the most valued thing we have in the community. It’s the thing over the last port, other than the Orioles have been running to the ground by the owner, right. But things we’ve run into the ground, whether it’s the Inner Harbor, sort of getting past a the convention center, not being up to date, potholes, whatever it is, the Orioles are this private concern that have done nothing, but just print money, like a stripper in Vegas, they’ve just done nothing but make money. And they can’t do anything but make money. So we’re talking about the Orioles and the Ravens in a way that they’re the other than Hopkins. They’re the biggest thing that we have, we can’t lose them, we have to keep them. And now I don’t know even know what the hostage situation is with John Angelos. I don’t even know what he’s asking for or what his vision is. And he has no communication skills, or people or PR people to even come to detractors like me pricks like me and sell it. Come and sit next to me and tell me your big plan. And why I should be on the microphone, telling my business associates my audience, my community, why it’s a good idea. Because you might get an all star game download great we might get it might help fix the harbor Great. Come on and have a frank conversation and honest, transparent conversation about why our city’s gonna give you a billion dollars to make 5 billion.

Bill Cole  18:10

Yeah, it is a little peculiar to your point that like there is no plan or communicated plan or, or like you said, I’d like to release the hostages. I’m literally willing to do whatever you ask, but you’re not asking for anything yet. So but I and you’re comparing it to CFG arena, and the experience that you went through there, right.

Nestor Aparicio  18:34

Think about that done that? Well, and they were very

Bill Cole  18:37

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communicative. And they told you what it was going to be. And this was why it was going to be great. And now they’re working really hard to execute on that plan. And I mean, most of the people I’ve talked to have had wonderful experiences and it seems to be headed in the right direction.

Nestor Aparicio  18:52

I have the french fries yet. I’m looking forward to that up on the second floor in the corner. Have you

Bill Cole  18:56

have you had a chance to sit with Mark Thomas, the new CEO of the GBC?

Nestor Aparicio  19:03

I have not, I did throw up a note on LinkedIn.

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Bill Cole  19:06

Alright, so I’ll make sure to poke him and say, Hey, respond to Nestor, because he’s a big thinker, man. And he he has the chops like like he’s built this career and experienced a lot of different stuff. And he has come to Baltimore to try his hand at this in a much more significant way. He’s coming out of Pittsburgh, so he’s, you know, there’s some

Nestor Aparicio  19:38

I’ve been to Pittsburgh, like I was in Pittsburgh for the game, you know, back into spin I had been to Pittsburgh where I’ve stayed for three or four days since like 2017. I went up for I went up for hockey. I stayed up there Tomlin and I went out and I went to a couple of hockey games as well my wife and I sort of famously went to Game Six up there with the Tom with us. out on the glass but I, I saw this I walked around the city and stuff like that. That’s one benefit. That’s one thing that Chad steals taken away from me in regard to being in Cincinnati, Cleveland, these places that I go, and I spend a day or two and I see them I don’t just go from the airport to the Grand Hyatt and in find my, you know, like, like the CBS announcers do and find myself there with an earpiece in the stadium and then I’m right to the airport. I mean, I like seeing places and our city. Some days it shows better than others, right? I mean, I had a dear friend of mine in town. On Tuesday, one of my gundog friends, I took him in his daughter and wife, Fells Point me cheese, we got some acrobat. And we walked through this beautiful day was fine showed them stuff they had never seen. In regards to the Four Seasons and promenade area, and everything that’s being built up there. My wife’s like, Hey, we’re the new Whole Foods, there’s two towers going up where the sandlot was, and I was like, I mean, there’s stuff happening here. I mean, all you got to do. So I drove down 83. And I want to make a joke here, because when you get out 83, everybody’s 80 miles an hour till they get the TV Hill, they stop. And then they get past that. I’m going to bring this up with the mayor. They make it through the cameras. I was on at three in front of the Baltimore Sun on where the prison is, and like all of that, and I looked at the Baltimore Sun in this giant abandoned building, and I was going in to have lunch with my friend. And I thought, Oh, my God, they’ve abandoned the other building. Now. The one is, I mean, there’s two buildings, the Baltimore Sun is abandoned. But that whole area where the sun was the there was the sun and a cruise ship. That was the only thing that was down there for 20 years, right? Like when you go by there, if you’re a friend of mine who lives in Chicago had been here a while. You’re like, Holy hell they built like a city here. It looks like they built a a Buckhead, you know, if you’re in Atlanta, you see this whole sphere that just pops up outside of downtown. It’s like another city. And that’s something you know, we make

Bill Cole  22:04

our city our city shows really well, like we had some roofer friends out of Indiana come in, and obviously, we want to show him a good time. So I mean, they they left blown away and how cool Our town is, no one argues about our bones. We’ve had this conversation a million times, right, like transportation, the harbor, I mean, we have all the bones. And what Mark argued with me about is like, Okay, I see it the similarly, like, we have a lot of problems. Everybody has a lot of problems. But I still see tower cranes, like we’re making progress just in spite of ourselves. And he’s like, Yeah, we’re, we’re flat. Like, like, we’re flat. Like, economically, as a city, we basically just tread water. And he, you know, he’s like, we need to grow. We want we want economic growth here. And, you know, I mean, he has a wonderful presentation, and he has really thought out, sort of like, the plan of future. You know, I have

Nestor Aparicio  23:11

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magic foam on next Thursday for grandkids. I’m ready to go. I’m ready to talk about the future. My reason, my reason for planning a football and baseball, Star game coming back here, what are we going to find we’re gonna find in a city,

Bill Cole  23:24

my reason for bringing that up is that a guy like him, he almost has to chase the big projects, right? Like, he doesn’t have the capacity to deal with like little one off stuff. So he’s chasing these big, little game changing deals? Well, what you’re talking about is what cities perceive as a big game changing type of deal. You know, you’re gonna change the stadium, knock it down, build a new one, build one next to it, put a roof on it, you know, increase the warehouse, seven store, you know, whatever crazy ideas they come up with. You have to commit that professional sports in your town is an economic improver, then you will invest. And then through that investment comes that commitment to well, if we believe this, then we need to get the all star game because that’s what shows people that’s what shows it off, gets tourism going gets people coming in, you know, so it’s sort of like that big cycle. You said, I’m the mayor, bring me all the ideas of how we can invest to make things better. Let’s evaluate them all though. There’s, there’s not an endless amount of money to put to work, although, it seems like there might be I don’t know.

Nestor Aparicio  24:42

Well, this is where the federal money where John’s like, well, they’re gonna spend money here anyway. Maybe I can annex the Inner Harbor. Yeah. I mean, maybe they can build something that I don’t. But where’s the idea? I mean, I haven’t seen John Angelo’s with one bright idea. Like literally, I mean, I’ve been watching this for 30 years, and if He’s the guy who’s the leader. I need to see more than I’ve seen. I’m not sold.

Bill Cole  25:04

Who has it? In San Francisco that you can hit balls into the, into the water

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Nestor Aparicio  25:10

into the water. Yeah.

Bill Cole  25:11

But isn’t that like not allowed? Like, isn’t that like me? If you and I went down, and we just started throwing baseballs into the harbor? Do you think someone would come and say, Hey, you’re not allowed to do that? Like, you can’t just dump your crap in the water because you’re the local baseball team. Like, like, that’s a great idea. I love it. It’s wonderfully fascinating. And there’s guys who

Nestor Aparicio  25:39

take it out. I mean, people come with the balls don’t go, well, they they’ve unused the balls. I don’t know if you know that. So then, you know, since Barry Bonds, the water anymore. Bill Cohen was here. He’s co roofing and Gordion energy. I never know where these conversations are going, which always makes it interesting. It was kind of like miking up baseball players during the all star game the other night. I would just say this from a sports perspective. I’m getting thrown out and or my 25th anniversary is coming up. Some think I’m being wistful about all of this and writing about all this is sort of getting thrown out at an interesting time where my focus is on more important things anyway, at this point in moving to thank for it, but I I am sort of shocked at how this has gone for sports here. Over 25 years of me pimping for it right being out in the front saying it’s so important. It’s so important, give these billionaires anything they want, given the state of cake, give them all of that. And then I see the inside of this. And I see an all star game happened in Seattle the other night, I’ve really just scratched my head. And they’re talking about Baltimore. And I just, it’s amazing, the rhetoric like we’re gonna get the all star game and we don’t even have a lease like and I just try to bring that down to the people in some way they can understand that or maybe digested aside from flying the flag for Austin Hays and Adley rutschman Poor Felix Batista, and in the great story of yesteryear can Oh, and the Marlins kids coming in here that I love baseball, and that there’s a time and place for all that. But then there’s the meaning behind all of this is what what are we doing as a community and what it was supposed to be. And I saw that shining part of the all star game the other night in Seattle, when the over heads are there and the show in the city off and the jerseys or even like about the team and the city and the history and they had an all star game 22 years ago. And I thought, I bet you don’t realize this bill, but it’s 30 years ago, literally today and tomorrow that the all star game was here. It was 30 years ago today, as we sit here want to know that the Home Run Derby happened. Juan Gonzalez Ken Griffey, it was 30 years ago today that that happened.

Bill Cole  27:47

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And makes me feel that’s fine. I think love that is strictly a really big commercial, right? That’s a really big commercial. You throw that thing out there to try and improve other things around your town. More interesting to me is, you know, Nashville, is Music City, right? Made a made a committed effort to get everyone on the same page about being this music town. The airport, you know, there’s a guy playing when you get off the airplane, you go everywhere you go, there’s guy playing live, God, woman guy, whatever. So it’s committed effort. And everyone experiences it, and they all leave with the same impression. You know, like, they remember the music. I don’t know what Baltimore’s mission is. But it can’t be baseball. Right? Because an or football, right? Like they have shortened seasons, like, like, if you want to be a foodie town, which we are kind of like one of those under the radar foodie counts. That is sustainable. That’s 365 that’s every weekend. That’s every entrepreneur, every guy who wanted to try to, you know, make a restaurant. Go do it in Baltimore, because you know, like, it’s a foodie town. And if you’re, if you’re good, they’ll support you and they love you. And they’re loyal and bola like that’s a mission worth taking. I you know, I don’t know what other things are on the list. Like we have a lot of history we have, you know, we’re going to be on the cyber so

Nestor Aparicio  29:29

we had the Civil War trail in the battle. This is shot tower and the Star Spangled Banner and Fort McHenry. Like we’re near DC we’re right off in 95 for the buses that go from back and forth. To have a lunch at the Inner Harbor. I lived I experienced this. I watched the buses come in every day and fill up fill ups and fill up like you know, Hooters filling up all those places when those places were vibrant and there was something there. And the next vision is the most important thing I can talk about in am 1570 or Baltimore. Positive, much more so than the next ravens parade that will come or go. That will enrich Chad Steele and Sashi Brown and John Harbaugh and Eric de Costa, and maybe even Jacoby Jones and Joe Flacco. But what does it leave behind the next time they go five at 12? You know, and as

Bill Cole  30:15

the Orioles are, right, I’m okay with it being part of the ecosystem, right? It’s additive when it’s when they’re all on the same page. And they’re all working towards, you know, the same kind of goals and greed isn’t like just

Nestor Aparicio  30:29

well Peters on the team for 30 years. So it’s just been an act of Avarice that’s been on and I just don’t such display. I mean, to anybody who’s had their eyes open. Even the people love the Orioles understand they saw, right, I mean,

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Bill Cole  30:44

it can be additive, I just don’t think it can be the thing. Like you’re never going to be sports town, USA. You know what I mean? Like, put all your eggs in

Nestor Aparicio  30:56

just looking at an Oriole game and see that 98% And say that doesn’t even look like the city.

Bill Cole  31:02

I want it to work. I want it to be additive. I want it to to help the surrounding neighborhoods and the communities and its jobs and its civic pride, and it’s all these good things and then attracts investment and it can be really good but it needs to be additive. And it can’t over consume the available dollars.

Nestor Aparicio  31:21

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Crime, school, transportation, public health, all of

Bill Cole  31:26

that. Right. It needs to be proportionate.

Nestor Aparicio  31:29

Well, we’re proportionate here in what we’re doing here. Just the right amounts. Bill Cole is a coal roofing and Gordian energy. He joins us to have intelligent we call them wise conversations here all summer long. The merrily crabcake tour is going to be a Coco’s this week presented by our friends at the Maryland lottery. I’ll be giving away these lucky scratch offs also, our friends will win the nation 866 90 nation letter asking I got my crab call around y’all put that in activity on August the third, our 25th anniversary at costus. And then on August 4, the hangover it’s drug city, going to a liquor store for a hangover least they have milkshakes, and delicious food at the fountain. And we’ll have a good time. It’s gonna be a great, great celebration. I am imploring folks, and including you bill Cole, who was one time an intern here at wn St. On the Bob Haney show on Sunday mornings in 1998 1999. I’m asking people if you have old pictures, old hats. If you sat on my face on a seat cushion. If you gotta get nasty shirt from the Preakness. If you have a picture of me with, I don’t know, Tim goad at the barn or Ed Sutter. Please feel free to send these along. I’m going to try to reward folks by giving away everything I have. On the third fourth, the cost isn’t drug city. I have shirts have all sorts of stuff. I’m just booked someone to bring them. Please come by. Grab a sandwich. Grab a bowl of soup. It’s a peach cake. I can’t see it yet. What? Tell me talk to me. What is it? You have to hold it down to your body because you have a green screen? It’s like Bob Turk guy talk to me.

Bill Cole  33:01

Can you see the whiskey juice and the purpose?

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Nestor Aparicio  33:04

You got Festivus Maximus signs. I have a few of those. I’m gonna read you, buddy. Thank you. This is I just want to say this because I’m probably going to make an ad about this in the next two weeks in social media. I have all of the signs. So like somebody last week when we beat the Yankees 14 to one. Like they’re like I remember your spank the Yank signs. I’m like, yeah, 50 up. You want one? So I’ve kept a bunch of signs. I have the wacko for Flacco is I have defense for cat defense. We need some fresh sides. I have clobber Cleveland’s I have a couple of dump Trump ease.

Bill Cole  33:39

Let those in the stadium these days. If we did another rewrite

Nestor Aparicio  33:42

or set the police to take our signs away at clobber Cleveland spank the Yank so I never did an Oriole sign after 1996 97 Because Hennessy was down on the walk and the cops were there. And I mean, that’s Peter, you know, like, so Peter sent the cops in 1996 to have all of us thrown out. So anything that said clobber Cleveland, they were taking him at the door. Yeah, yeah. I have some Bruce Springsteen’s when that really pissed off Frank Ramage. I think it’s the reason Frank hates me. I had Bruce it said hungry hard on one side it said Bruce, a Baltimore loves Bruce on the other side. They look like our Defense Science. Not one of them got into the facility that night, the first Mariner arena. They all got taken at the door thrown in the trash can, but I have. I have like 500 of those. I have a brick of those. I gave them out at the Bruce show when he opened the arena. Bill yurman had them you know who loved it. Carl science ran into me with his brother at what used to be the old KFC and Geno’s right on board, they parked the car in the front door at the CFG Bank Arena. And I had the science and science and Kurt gave me $500 to sponsor it. So this he said for 15 years. I’m like, Oh man, it wrecked my relationship with the uranium because we gave these stupid signs out and like, but the signs are iconic to what we do you tell the top 25 moments. I mean, come on. I agree. I have some zoo signs, I have some not a chance signs, I’m trying to

Bill Cole  35:16

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think we’ll have to figure out what the Forgot something we can do with that. We can make some kind of video out of them. You know, like kind of turns real, you know like

Nestor Aparicio  35:26

to do is if somebody still has it in their man cave in their basement, send me a picture of what you have next to your Chuck Thompson bobblehead or God bless you know, whatever you have, right, whatever your thing is, but we gave I don’t say we gave a million signs out. But we gave a half a million signs out. You know what I mean? We gave 30,000 signs out just in New Orleans. You know, I mean, so Bill Cole was here if you have memories, and it sparked something in your 25 years of listening to WSD I’d love to have it next to Baltimore positive.com Appreciate your bail you want to do your roofing speech about auto we’re nation guys don’t have the right spouting and you have to it’s

Bill Cole  36:05

it’s summertime we’re trying to do as much roofing as we can although I’m feels like we live in Florida. Like it it gets hot and it rains every day around one or two o’clock. So we need to get out of that weather pattern.

Nestor Aparicio  36:18

I swear to God, you’re an ambulance chaser like the guys when it snows who bring the plows you just wait for it to rain when it rains. You know what’s gonna happen to me?

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Bill Cole  36:27

Yeah, but I don’t need the rain right now. I need the sun so I can get everything that we already know has a problem. Yeah, so

Nestor Aparicio  36:35

I gotta cut my lawn. I don’t know it. Cut my lawn on days it rains right. I

Bill Cole  36:41

mean, everything’s good. Yeah. I suggest you know, if you want to extend the life of your roof, call us. Let us take a look. We can fix stuff now before it becomes too big of a problem.

Nestor Aparicio  36:50

I feel bad. You didn’t take a lottery ticket down if at least you left in the ticket was still sitting there and I’m like, You didn’t get the play first chance, let alone second chance. Bilko was here. That was a wise conversation with one of our friends and sponsors. It’s summertime around here. We’re getting ready for all sorts of things. Oreos are home. Luke’s getting ready for a training camp. I’m getting ready for our 25th anniversary. I’m getting ready for crabcake towards Coco’s this week. Beaumont next week cost this and then drug city and then throughout August we’re going to be at Pappas and Glenburnie with Anna Rondo county executive Steuart Pittman. We’re going back up to Harford County very, very soon as well and around the beltway with 25 Oysters, as we celebrate 25 years I am Nestor we are wn St. am 1570, Towson Baltimore and we never stop talking Baltimore positive