The sports agony continues in Cleveland

Oh, sure the Cleveland Browns are a last-place operation without a legitimate NFL quarterback but the real story in Northern Ohio is the gambling indictments of a pair of Guardians baseball players. Radio legend Munch Bishop joins Nestor to discuss the future of the football team and the shame of the worst side of sports gambling bubbling up in MLB.

Nestor Aparicio and Munch Bishop discussed the Cleveland Browns’ acquisition of Deshaun Watson and its impact on fan loyalty. Munch expressed his strong stance against the Browns, citing Watson’s immoral actions. They also delved into the broader issue of gambling in sports, criticizing the NFL’s handling of John Harbaugh’s Hardball scandal and the Class A scandal involving pitcher Emmanuel Clase. Munch highlighted the positive impact of new Cleveland Guardians manager Terry Francona, predicting success for the team. They also touched on the challenges of sports ownership and the importance of integrity in sports management.

Cleveland Sports Legacy and Personal Stories

• Nestor Aparicio introduces the show, mentioning his travels and the Maryland crab cake tour.
• Nestor reminisces about his trips to Cleveland, including attending Rock and Roll Hall of Fame events.
• Munch Bishop shares his long-standing career in radio and his pride in Cleveland sports.
• Munch discusses his strong stance against the Cleveland Browns after the Deshaun Watson trade, emphasizing his personal and professional reasons.

Personal Connections and Community Impact

• Munch Bishop talks about his daughter’s involvement with the Browns and her resignation from the Manhattan Browns Backers.
• Nestor Aparicio shares his experiences with the Baltimore Orioles and the challenges of rooting for a team with a problematic owner.
• Both discuss the broader impact of team ownership and management on fan loyalty and community perception.
• Nestor mentions his interactions with Italian charities and the importance of honesty and respect in public engagements.

Gambling and Sports Scandals

• Nestor and Munch discuss the impact of gambling scandals on sports, including the Deshaun Watson case and the broader issue of gambling in sports.
• Nestor expresses his frustration with the NFL’s handling of gambling scandals and the hypocrisy in the league’s stance.
• Munch shares his experiences with gambling in high school sports and the prevalence of betting in local communities.
• They discuss the broader implications of gambling on sports integrity and the challenges of regulating it.

Pete Rose and Baseball Hall of Fame

• Nestor and Munch debate Pete Rose’s place in the Baseball Hall of Fame, considering his actions as a player and manager.
• Munch shares a personal story about Pete Rose and his experiences with him during a radio event.
• They discuss the broader issue of morality in sports and the challenges of balancing personal actions with professional success.
• Nestor reflects on the impact of Rose’s actions on his legacy and the broader implications for sports ethics.

Hope and Future of Cleveland Sports

• Munch Bishop discusses the potential of the Cleveland Guardians and their new manager, Terry Francona.
• Nestor and Munch talk about the importance of character and leadership in sports management.
• They discuss the potential for success in the upcoming season and the impact of new ownership on the team’s future.
• Nestor reflects on the broader implications of sports management and the importance of integrity in leadership.

Personal Reflections and Final Thoughts

• Nestor and Munch share personal reflections on their experiences in sports broadcasting and the challenges they have faced.
• They discuss the importance of maintaining integrity and honesty in their work and the impact of their actions on their communities.
• Nestor expresses his excitement for future travels and his commitment to promoting positive messages through his show.
• Munch shares his appreciation for Nestor’s work and their mutual respect for each other’s contributions to sports broadcasting.

SUMMARY KEYWORDS

Cleveland Browns, Deshaun Watson, gambling in sports, Pete Rose, Baseball Hall of Fame, John Harbaugh, NFL gambling, Class A scandal, Terry Francona, Guardians manager, sports integrity, betting prop bets, sports ownership, Baltimore sports, sports scandals.

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SPEAKERS

Nestor Aparicio, Munch Bishop

Nestor Aparicio  00:01

Welcome home. We are W, N, S T, am 1570 Towson, Baltimore. We are Baltimore, positive traveling around the world and at am 1570 and of course, the Maryland crab cake tour in progress, as always, last week repeats John’s on Friday, where Coco’s on Wednesday. Great conversations. Lots of baseball in those conversations, as well as basic like civics and talk to some lawyers. I talked some AI. We talked about a bunch of stuff last week, but with the Browns this week, I love to go out to Ohio, especially sort of the week after the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and my girl, Gina shock, was in the pocket for Cindy Lauper and my dearest friend John Allen, went out as a guest of the Hall of Fame and did the whole thing he and his wife. He looks so good in a tux. Dundalk guy cleaning up. Can’t wait to get a beer with him and talk up, talk some rock and roll. But this guy’s in Cleveland. He’s an old rock and roll guy, but now, I mean, he’s versatile, whether it’s was old indoor Cleveland force and crunch games, where I used to see him, or maybe a Browns game, or old tribe, the name they used to be now they’re the guardians and all that stuff. Munch Bishop’s been doing it even longer than I’ve been doing it. I’m 35 years now into radio 20, almost 28 years now going to owning the station. You go further back than me. Munch and even if the brown stink stank stunk, I still want to do some radio with you this week and talk some baseball with you, because we hired like our manager came from you, like Phil Regan, the last time you know what I mean,

Munch Bishop  01:34

I’m with you. So good to be with you, Nestor. Now I gotta hit you with this, though you know the day, and I was never proud of her, prouder of her. I’ll tell you who her is. Is that the Browns traded for the shame Watson. I said, I’m done with this team. I mean to get going this very first press conference ever. We had a meeting at the station after has them, you know, was introduced and had his presser. People said, What do you think? I said, a guy is an immoral, Thief, nigga. You just met him. I said, I know people. I don’t I don’t know numbers, man, math is my forte. But when you’re from the inner city, when you’re from Slavic from Slavic village and Lee Harbor, like I am, you know, people. So if you’re talking browns, and when I’m talking about the day I divorced the browns, my daughter, who was a broker and investor, a hedge fund queen of Manhattan, called me crying because she had been president of the Manhattan Browns backers. That’s pretty heavy. That’s a big club. She said, Daddy, I hope you’re not mad at me. I just resigned, and I packed up all my gear and took it to the shelter. I said, Honey, No, I’ve never been prouder. So that is my take on the browns. Okay, in fact, Nestor, you know, I’m going to say this and I’m scored in Cleveland, and people say, Aren’t you worried about one of the rabble going after you this and that? Well, I, you know, I’m not just put it this way for various reasons. I know how to protect myself, whether it’s a dog or it’s a, you know, Second Amendment rights. But the bottom line is, this is that, you know, what if they got o1 17, it’s still not enough pain on the Haslam family for me. So there’s where I stand. But baseball wise will let it rip.

Nestor Aparicio  02:53

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Brother. You know, it’s crazy, because, like, I’m not there with the people. Ask me, do you root against the Ravens? I spoke to the Italian associated Italian charities last week, right? 80 men, all men, all Italian. Most of them knew who I was. Most of them have one positive and five negative associations with me, politically or sports wise, or whatever, okay, but they respect me that I’m not going to lie to them. They respect me when I come in the room, period. And that’s, that’s all we have left. Is our word right, you know, no matter what. And somebody said to me, do you root for them or against them? And I said, You know what? When they’re one in five, it’s not fun for me and with the baseball team, there was a period of time when that SOB Angelo’s didn’t pay a $30,000 bill that he had racked up with me and his people copped out on all that on my station after we packed the outfield and I was assaulted, like the whole deal, there was a point where, like, f them. I don’t want them to win. I’ve had better people than me, like Mark Viviano say f them to me in regard to how I’ve been treated. And people think that, like, I root against them or whatever, like I sit here trying to fix them every day, all day, and I’m with you. The one thing you could never fix with Angelos that you can’t fix with this con man, creep criminal that’s running the country that my friend Kenny Albert was subjected to to keep his job, he had to ask fake questions, because that’s the way the world works in that world of Fox Television, and it’s disgraceful to me that we’ve come this far. But, like, I tell you, man, like, it’s no fun when you lose, right? I mean, you know this from Brown’s Landia. I know this from Raven’s Landia and Oriole Landia and colts Landia, when you lose your franchise to a fat old drunk, you know guy that came into the team and, er, say, like all of this time, to think that there’s morality on the other side of the sports fence in one way or another, or that it affects whether you root or don’t root. Cheer, don’t cheer. They don’t care whether you cheer for them. They care whether you give them their wallet or not. That’s really what they care about. And your time and your energy, to some degree,

Munch Bishop  04:57

my time and energy, brother, I’ll tell you. Of that?

Nestor Aparicio  05:00

Yeah, well, that’s the issue, right? That’s why I’m with Hockey. Hockey is foreign out I had this long conversation with Leonard Raskin, like, I got mistreated by the guy that owns the caps. He said he was going to bring the Stanley Cup The Baltimore. He said this on this radio station for a decade, that he would bring the Stanley Cup to Baltimore. If they ever won the Stanley Cup, they won the Stanley Cup. He didn’t bring this Stanley Cup The Baltimore. Like, like, Why do I like? I don’t even know what to make of that. I like the amount of lies that go John Harbaugh lies every he moved to spread five points a week and a half ago, much because of lavar. Yeah. I mean, the FBI would be calling if somebody was, if the Haslam was moving the line five points, right? Well, no doubt, 100% so I mean to think that we have miscreants, and maybe I bring it to baseball, because I want to do Albert Nestor with you. But you talked about and so to answer the question with the Italian guys, which is, it’s a lot more fun talking about the Ravens today at four and five, going to Cleveland, winning and having a season, than it is what you go through on the football thing every year for 25 years. And what I’ve gone through with baseball here from time eternal, which is sort of like, it’s no fun to talk about losing. And you know the worst thing to talk about when your relief pitcher shaving points in the modern era, right? Like, that’s no fun either, right? You love baseball, brother.

Munch Bishop  06:16

You know what? It’s not fun. But even more so, think about this. Think about the damage he has done to his teammates, to the team itself, to himself. I talk to a lot of schools. I go out like you do quite a bit, and even to adult clubs. I don’t always say at the end of the day, there’s two people you got to account to as long as as far as I know, and I’ve lived in some heck holes, okay, in the inner city is that every bathroom has a mirror, right? So as you’re going to sleep at night, splashing water on your face, brushing your teeth, who are you accounting to yourself and a man upstairs? Okay, so those are the things, but my gosh, what a Class A has done. He you know, the teammates, the fans, the management, the organization, people putting faith in him. He was a rock star coming out of that bullpen. Bro, big, big massage. Him on the score. But okay, rock music blaring smoke everywhere. You know, him coming out and people just giving them a back. I even started the old couple coming Emmanuel getting biblical. With him taking to them out. And it turns out what he did, you know, is the damage irreparable. It certainly is, to a standpoint, with him,

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Nestor Aparicio  07:24

how many phone calls you take on Pete Rose in northern Ohio, lunch in your day. Seriously, you

Munch Bishop  07:27

know what? What I mentioned Pete, because I want to tell you this. I got a half hour of Pete back in the mid 90s, and it’s funny. So he was scheduled to do 15 minutes at this big event, and his manager, my PD, came up to me. He goes, I should give you a raise, because the manager says he likes his kid, he wants to do more time with them, you know, he’s supposed to give me the 1015 minutes, give me an extra 1520 minutes. And we were talking, you know, and I looked at it, and so I bring Pete up all the time. Is that, does he deserve to be in the Baseball Hall thing? Yeah, he certainly does. Did he bet as a player? There’s no discernible knowledge that he did and did he bet as a manager? Yes, but he only bet his team to win. Was that wrong? Certainly it was wrong. But I thought he was going in as a player, not a manager. And I look at some of these low lifes that are in the Hall of Fames, it’s like, wait a second, I’d rather have a guy bet for his team to win as a manager, so you pull out all the strings, than for what somebody that other people have done, and they made the halls

Nestor Aparicio  08:20

look my mom, I don’t know, was that your dad’s advice about the mirror in the bathroom?

Munch Bishop  08:26

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No, I actually got that from my you know, one day just thinking, My gosh, you ever have a day when you go, boy, you know what? I had a good day, a day like this was gonna get me into heaven. There’s no doubt, you know. And I looked in the mirror and I said, You did good today, dude, now do better tomorrow. And it probably was only like maybe 1520 years ago, so it wasn’t like growing up kind of thing. And then I said, You know what I kind of looked up? And said, thank you too, man, my good and gracious God, for you know the blessings you give me. And so that is just my what little wisdom I can give you, brother, I just did well.

Nestor Aparicio  08:57

My mom was Southern, you know, born in 1919, so she had all those old southern phrases and so really, but, you know, two wrongs don’t make a right, right. I mean, a lot of the biblical eye for an eye, you know what? I mean, that kind of stuff, but, but two wrongs don’t make a right. And in regard to, like, a guy like Pete Rose dying in indignity, but very he made more money not being in the hall than he ever would have made had they just put him

Munch Bishop  09:21

in so, I mean, his signings, oh,

Nestor Aparicio  09:24

my God. Like, I like, he was such a creepy dude in the general sense. I mean, what? When I encountered him, I encountered him twice in life, once in the Tampa airport. He was lovely to me when I told him I was Aparicio, his cousin. He like, he so. But I’m just saying, like, for what kind of man he was with women, what kind of man he was with gambling, what kind of man he was in the aftermath of lying about, let’s just he’s a low life. Okay, so you know the horse racing up on the top of the hill in Cincinnati. Listen like I know all of that right about Pete, but that being said, for that guy to die in indignity and have. The Sport completely have big Poppy with a hose, you know, and make it and make and all the money and Bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, ESPN, bad, bad, Major League Bay, bad, bad, it’s bad drafting, bad, bad. So like, I see how quick it’s happened for that, right? A little Flintstones reference for those of you know, but I thought about the rocket arrow the other day too. But for me, the notion that baseball has embraced this, that sports has embraced this, the NFL couldn’t even get the kickoff right in Berlin, like the things that I see now. I don’t gamble on it much, you know this, but I watch it now, and I watched the Colts cover the spread in the 930 morning game on a six point thing where they could have kicked the field goal won the game, but they went in and covered the spread. And I’m thinking to myself, I watched it and I don’t bet on it, but I watch it and I’m like, if I did bet on it, I’d stop just because I’d be like, I don’t know if it’s crooked or not, but it ain’t straight, and I’m better off buying a lottery ticket, or at least I know the things on the up and up, because I’m not convinced any of it’s on the up and up. And it can be on the up and up because it’s judged. And my wife and I, my wife, you get so pissed at me because we watched the Olympics. She saw snoop. She’s like, I can’t wait to watch snoop on the Olympics. And she’s and I would always listen, don’t tell Mick Jagger a little bit. Listen, don’t tell Dorothy Hamel this if she comes on. Don’t tell any of the gymnastics or any of the ice skaters that I’ve ever had, and I love them all, and I watch them all and but it’s a judge sport. It’s crooked, like it’s, it’s too it’s, it’s crooked. Dancing with the Stars crooked. If it’s judged, it’s crooked. Flip a coin, not.

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Munch Bishop  11:38

Judges are crooked with Dancing with the Stars. No, it’s just,

Nestor Aparicio  11:43

it’s just, it’s subjective. It is. It’s, it’s like, liking your show or hating mine. It’s subjective. So what I would say

Munch Bishop  11:51

with dance with the stars, when one of them, so we don’t, if you turn your side a little bit more, it’s like, Huh, I’m watching that he turned his side when you’re talking about, you know, subjective is the word right, but

Nestor Aparicio  12:01

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two wrongs don’t make a right in regard to the gambling thing and the notion that it was bad for baseball to be involved in gambling 40 years ago and now that it’s okay, but not for them and not for their brothers. And I mean, this was like the thing with hardball two weeks ago. Munch. The amazing part about it is hardball gets everybody in the building to lie for him. It kind of reminds me when Trump was with my friend Kenny Albert, who’s actually elbowed next to him on national TV with a live microphone, and could not ask him what kind of a criminal he is, even though he is so like we’re all put in these positions in life to do or say or do what the boss tells us to do, what’s right or what’s wrong, or what makes an ice member, put a family into a with a mask on, like we’re at that point, there’s no doubt it’s it’s Gestapo. I mean, it’s crazy. So for me, when I start to look at gambling and sports and bringing this in, where a guy like John Harbaugh, whose dad loves your guardians, by the way, who’s not a man of character or fairness or right? He’s a man of God, but he’s not a man of any of these things, right? So just to have the organization in moss lie about whether Lamar can or will play, and Lamar is running scout team, and they’re lying on the injury report to all the gamblers, their competitors, everybody in the league. They all come in, they all do the spit test and say, we’re going to be on the up and up here as men, as honorable men, not none of that gamesmanship stuff that you know that really is cheating, taking air out of footballs, just things that like literally is cheating, and they all know it’s cheating, which is, to your point, you got a mirror, you know, right from wrong, you know, if this was done unto me, would it be cheating? You’re damn right, it would be cheating, and I wouldn’t do it, because I don’t cheat, right? Hardball, had the whole building do this. That moved the line five points, 24 hours before the game, everybody in the building was in on it, and the NFL is so in on gambling that they gave him $100,000 fine, instead of flogging him, instead of saying, Oh, you’re not coaching for the next month and you’re we’re going to take a third round draft pick and owner is going to write a $5 million check, because we’re in on gambling Now, and we can’t have this. So instead slap on the wrist for 100 grand. I don’t know what’s going to happen to Class A and these guys, and I don’t even know what the NBA thing, and I think a lot of that’s racial and a lot of that’s cash Patel’s running the FBI. I mean, for Christ’s sake. So for me, for me, the class a thing is really, really at the crux of what they’re going to do about gambling, because they know what they’re not going to do. They’re not going to make it illegal. They’re not going to take it back to Louis the bookmaker. They’re not going to take it to Slavic village and Dundalk into the little house up on the hill where the guy made book. Right? They’re not

Munch Bishop  14:55

going to do that. Still get those sheets, by the way, written in pen and mimeograph.

Nestor Aparicio  14:59

No. That is an inducement to wager. Tear it in half, right? I do look at points. I know not that I did that, not that I ever did that. My neighborhood.

Munch Bishop  15:07

We have high school books here in Cleveland.

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Nestor Aparicio  15:10

Bro, that’s for high school football. Explain that to me?

Munch Bishop  15:15

Okay, well, it’s just okay. St, Ignatius was playing st Edwards. St, Edward’s is three and a half point favorites, okay, over, under is this, and you could get the little piece of notebook paper at the pizza shop right there. Yeah, what a handwritten that’s mimeographed off. And you go and look for Sonny or Tubby say, Hey, I like my pepperoni pizza, and Tubby sent me. And you get the sheet in your pizza box, check them off, and turn them back in and envelope with some cash and bingo, there you go. Now I call high school football games. I’ve never been a part of it, but people send it to me all the time. You know, they’re listening to you on the air, and they go, Hey, I’m gonna drop off the line for you. They say, Don’t bother. But they do anyway,

Nestor Aparicio  15:51

lunch for me. I remember back in the 90s, and I don’t know who wrote the piece. It might have been Tim laden. It was a really good writer. Wrote his cover piece. I’m gonna go find it in the late 90s, because I was on the radio, and I’ve never been a gambler, right? And the football team came to town, took your team from Cleveland, all that about that period of time, about 96 798, there was a piece I read that that had to do with Pete Rose and gambling in America late 90s, where you could you see Wimbledon, you could go in the back and bet on it when they’re in Europe and wondering why it can work there and doesn’t work here, why it works at cricket matches all over the world and like all of that. And going back to whether, you know, pick any scandal Black Sox and baseball, you know, pick any of the scandal in football in the 50s, right? Detroit and all that. Pick any organized crime that would get involved in this. Right? The story in Sports Illustrated that pulled at me, that made me think about it differently, as a man, as an adult, and I was in my late 20s at the time, was this, if you get upside down and you’re Pete Rose to Louis the bookmaker, who’s going to break your knees in that era, right? And then they Sonny, tell me, whoever it is, right in the neighborhood, the only way you could get even would be to throw a game or to throw a pitch, or to throw a free throw, or to throw, to shave, to fit, whatever it is on behalf of gambling, right? And when I saw it as a college kid at Kent State, Youngstown State, Cleveland State, Coppin State, any state back in that era when these games are on and taking next level to st IGs and Calvert Hall and high school, my God, I’ve never heard of such thing in Baltimore, but I’m sure that you could get action on a Dunbar game 40 years ago. Maybe, I don’t know, they beat everybody by too much. Probably at that point they think about taking action. But for me, that you could be a college kid and you’re gambling on whatever horse racing, whatever the gambling ill in 1998 would be. You got a football thing. You got a points for you, whatever you do, the only way to get even to somebody who would wish to harm you or organize crime, would be to throw a game, or to throw something or to shave something. And that’s when it really hit me as to crime, guns, bad guys, organized crime, police, FBI, like all of the reasons sports would never get involved with this, like dumb, dumb ass me 30 years ago. That’s my thought. This thing happened for guys, old guys like you and me. This thing happened so fast, so under radar, so sort of illicitly, under an administration that wouldn’t care about it, that would say, where can I get some action and rig it like, literally, the Trump would be at a game, rigging it like, not trying to say this is a bad idea. So to me, this class, a thing is sits at front of school where the NBA is getting taken to task by cash Patel and these criminals that are running the government the class a thing was in the works way before the Otani thing. Oh, my God, that just went away, right? One week, one week, bro, it just went away. Went away because it wasn’t good for business. And going after John Harbaugh is not good for NFL business. So I but this class A namely, there’s no doubt they’re enabling. Yes, you tell me what the class a thing means to the Cleveland Community in baseball.

Munch Bishop  19:17

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Man, okay, the Cleveland Community baseball is devastated. It’s crushed. Like I said, this guy was treated like royalty, was treated like a rock star. And now you look back, you go, you know what? Dang, he had a bad game, or he had a great gamer. Wow, that wild pitch was more than a wild pitch. The catcher could have got to it in any way, shape or form, even if he threw his body out. Now you’re looking back at those things, yeah, people are crushed. They’re devastated. It’s like, Oh no, please don’t tell me. It’s so, but it is so, and you’re going to have to deal with it. Some people put their head in the ground. You know what happens when you put their head in the ground? You get your butt kicked.

Nestor Aparicio  19:48

Okay? You get to Sean Watson, yeah, thank you. Or you signed Justin Tucker, which was a scandal here that they did an unbelievable they kept it off of WJ, Z, off a, W, b, a, l, I went into room. 80 men all soup to nuts, Ravens fans. They all think they’re smart. They all think they read a lot. Two out of the 80 people in the room read the Justin Tucker story. Two out of 80 men Munch two

Munch Bishop  20:12

because they ignore it. They don’t want it to be true. Same thing with Watson, same thing with all this other stuff. But the class A is so out in front now, and that is not abusing women, although he abused everybody by doing what he did, but not in, you know, the manner that we’ve seen Tucker into shame all over

Nestor Aparicio  20:27

12 grand or five grand. It’s like nothing. If you’re a pitcher in the brain, right? Why would you be in 28 million

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Munch Bishop  20:32

the next three years? 28 million, the next three years, he had coming to him, he had coming to him. You know, that’s past tense.

Nestor Aparicio  20:37

Now, well, and this goes to the point, if you’re involved in that action and you got cousins who do this stuff, they’re at risk. They’re going to put you at risk. That’s the long tail of what I learned about that. Now that being said, much Bishop’s here from Cleveland, Craig Albert, Nestor, I like Led Zeppelin. I’m leaving stairway to Evan for the end. You’re such a baseball guy. You’re such a guardians guy first. And here we look at it and say, hey, they hired a guy with Tampa and Cleveland background, a little time in San Francisco. Also, the fact that your manager talk about character, got on a plane, flew in here and sat at the press conference. How cool is that to give the I mean, says a lot about Steven vote, and it probably says a lot about the tree that Craig Albert has comes from man,

Munch Bishop  21:26

okay, well, number one, I’ll say this about vote. You know, those catchers make some pretty dang good managers, right? Because catchers are running the thing. There’s no doubt about it. You know, you look at me physical special, but I am. I caught through high school and into San lodge for a year because you were in charge, you know. And you can have collisions back then. Brother, I thrived on collisions. Maybe that’s why I’m a little loose upstairs. But vote little lefty ready too much sometimes. But look what he’s done the last two years. He’s had teams. Last year’s team was expected to win, what 7072, games. They bested that by close to 20. The bottom line is, he is a good manager, but I know you’re not gonna go back and pull up all games, but when you’re watching guardians game, or at a guardians game, lockstep, hip to hip, shoulder to shoulder, elbow to elbow, there’s your new Skipper right next to Stephen vote, anytime. Vote had a question on things. Who did he talk to? Albertus, and then Carl Willis, the pitching coach. Yeah, this guy is ready and ready to go. Now he’ll drive you crazy sometimes with some decisions, and he has to have some players come through. I mean, you can’t win without any kind of roster in any way, shape or form, but he’s going to win more games than a team is expected to win. You can quote me on that, and you can call me in eight months. Okay, it’s like, watch, what were you talking about? No, you got a good Skipper. I know he’s not a household name, but, man, he’s right there, lockstep every way shape and form with a manager whose teams exceeded their expectations, that underplayed. You know, they didn’t. They weren’t underachievers, that they played hard good baseball, and that was they do, and they made some pretty good decisions, even though at the time you were cringing,

Nestor Aparicio  22:57

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yeah, munch, I think when it comes to the watching the Guardians play, and getting a lot out of a little as an organization. And I talked to you, I talked to writer, I talked to all you guys out there, a lot football to baseball, as our cities are sister cities, whether we want to be a part of the

Munch Bishop  23:13

Bermuda Triangle, because I’m on with you now, well, I know that, but, but

Nestor Aparicio  23:17

like for me, with watching what they’ve done, watching what the Blue Jays did, looking at the pedigree. And I don’t know whether the Colton cowsers and the Kobe Mayos. I don’t know what Henderson is going to be. Certainly, rushman has been a mess. You know, watching your guy Bieber throw in the World Series, watching our guy Gausman throw in the World Series, like just seeing blossoming players blossom later and bow baseball wise, whether this group with Albert Nestor, whether there’s going to be a straw that stirs the drink, whether this new owner is going to spend some money baseball off season is a lot of fun if you have hope. And there is, and again, I did Angelo’s here for 30 years, dude, there was never hope. There is some hope here. When you look at the Blue Jays, you look at Rogers and Bradish and how they pitch at the end, you look at the new there is something that they had that is tangible hope here, because they finished in last place, but they shouldn’t be a last place team here,

Munch Bishop  24:11

and Albert Nestor will change that. I can almost guarantee you that, you know, before we change past, I got to hit you with something. We were talking gambling a lot. I’m going to hook you up with a dear friend, gentleman named Mike North who’s on sports talk in Chicago for I know Northey. Come on now. You got to get NORTH Yeah, hot dog salesman. I know Northey. You know we had, he has gambling shows to this day. I had him on last week doing mornings at whbc in Canton, and he said to me, he goes, You know what? Much they’ll never get rid of them. But there’s one problem with the betting, and one problem only, prop bets, because it’s making him so much money. He goes, you get rid of the prop bet. The prop X, and bingo, most of the stuff goes away. Think about that.

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Nestor Aparicio  24:46

Well, I mean, when you got a guy on his phone in the big league saying, I’m gonna throw a ball, and the guy swung at it, I mean, like, what do you do? You got 28 million, and you’re and you’re, you’re betting over. Five Great. You’ve got a you got a gambling problem, is what? You have drug addiction. And I speak to that one 800 gambler. I’m on board with that. John Martin comes on every week. We talk about the ills and the perils of all of this. But hey, man, rock and roll, Hall of Fame, I’m coming to see you sometime soon. We’re gonna spend the day together. All right, Lucky says a table for us. Yeah, I might come out when rush plays in. I’m figuring it out. I’m going to get out. I’m doing like I’ve decided 2026, is my year to get back on the road again, baby ME and ME and ME and Willie Nelson on the road again, again. Yeah, kids can’t wait to get all right. Munch is in Cleveland. I’m not, and they’re playing at four o’clock. And I’ve been watching other games, other games better four o’clock, but the ravens are playing the Cleveland Browns this week. Much I Love You, Man, love to Cleveland.

Munch Bishop  25:47

Brother back. Much to you. A big hugs to the missiles too, and take care of yourself. All right. Shipwreck

Nestor Aparicio  25:51

for everybody down there in Tremont. He is much Bishop Cleveland. We are W NSTA and 1570 Towson, Baltimore. Back for more. Baltimore positive.