They won a lot of football games in Baltimore while John Harbaugh was the coach of the Ravens. Luke Jones and Nestor take a full look at the new coaching staff of head coach Jesse Minter and how some old friends like Anthony Levine and Anthony Weaver return with the same Hard Ball coaching wind under their purple wings. Familiar is comfortable in Owings Mills with the new regime.
Nestor Aparicio and Luke Jones discuss the Baltimore Ravens’ new coaching staff led by Jesse Minter, including offensive coordinator Declan Doyle and defensive coordinator Anthony Weaver. They highlight the youth and college backgrounds of many new coaches, noting the familiarity with John Harbaugh’s coaching style. Jones emphasizes the challenges of integrating a young, inexperienced offensive coordinator like Doyle and the potential for early-season hiccups. They also touch on the importance of player-coach relationships, particularly between Doyle and Lamar Jackson, and the need for roster improvements to support the new staff.
- [ ] @Nestor Aparicio – Write and publish a ‘Dear John Harbaugh’ column on Baltimore Positive this week as a columnist
- [ ] @Nestor Aparicio – Write and publish a ‘Dear Jesse Minter’ column on Baltimore Positive (follow-up column promised)
- [ ] @Nestor Aparicio – Monitor all Ravens coaching/staff and roster developments and report updates on the show and Baltimore Positive
- [ ] @Nestor Aparicio – Provide breaking Ravens (and related) news first via the WNST tech service when it occurs
Harbaugh Tour and Sports Coverage
- Nestor Aparicio introduces the show, mentioning new sponsors Farnan and Dermer and the lack of sports coverage due to the baseball strike.
- Nestor discusses the Olympics and his enjoyment of various sports, including long jump, short jump, luge, speed skating, and ice hockey.
- Nestor mentions John Harbaugh’s media rounds and the hiring of a new offensive coordinator, Anthony Weaver, and special teams coordinator, Anthony Levine.
- Nestor and Luke Jones discuss the familiarity within the Ravens coaching staff and the hiring of college coaches.
Familiarity and Staff Dynamics
- Nestor and Luke discuss the familiarity within the Ravens coaching staff, mentioning the hiring of Anthony Weaver and Anthony Levine.
- Luke pushes back on the idea of the Ravens staff being too incestuous, noting that many coaches have no clear ties to the team.
- Nestor and Luke talk about the balance of familiarity and competence in hiring coaches.
- Luke highlights the youth and college backgrounds of many new coaches, noting the mix of experience and fresh ideas.
Challenges and Expectations for New Coaches
- Luke discusses the challenges and expectations for new coaches, particularly Declan Doyle and Anthony Weaver.
- Nestor and Luke talk about the potential for hiccups and the importance of seamless transitions in coaching roles.
- Luke mentions the importance of familiarity and competence in coaching staffs, using examples from other teams.
- Nestor and Luke discuss the potential for new coaches to bring fresh ideas and innovation to the team.
Impact of Coaching Changes on Player Performance
- Nestor and Luke discuss the impact of coaching changes on player performance, using examples from the Ravens and other teams.
- Luke mentions the importance of player accountability and the role of coaching in improving performance.
- Nestor and Luke talk about the challenges of evaluating coaching performance and the impact of injuries on team performance.
- Luke highlights the importance of player-coach relationships and the role of familiarity in building trust and accountability.
Evaluating Coaching Performance and Team Dynamics
- Nestor and Luke discuss the evaluation of coaching performance and the importance of player-coach relationships.
- Luke mentions the challenges of evaluating coaching performance and the impact of player accountability on team success.
- Nestor and Luke talk about the importance of player-coach relationships and the role of familiarity in building trust and accountability.
- Luke highlights the importance of player-coach relationships and the role of familiarity in building trust and accountability.
Transition to New Coaching Staff
- Nestor and Luke discuss the transition to a new coaching staff and the challenges of integrating new coaches.
- Luke mentions the importance of player-coach relationships and the role of familiarity in building trust and accountability.
- Nestor and Luke talk about the potential for new coaches to bring fresh ideas and innovation to the team.
- Luke highlights the importance of player-coach relationships and the role of familiarity in building trust and accountability.
Impact of Coaching Changes on Team Culture
- Nestor and Luke discuss the impact of coaching changes on team culture and the importance of maintaining a positive environment.
- Luke mentions the challenges of integrating new coaches and the importance of maintaining a positive team culture.
- Nestor and Luke talk about the role of familiarity in building trust and accountability within the team.
- Luke highlights the importance of player-coach relationships and the role of familiarity in building trust and accountability.
Evaluating Coaching Performance and Team Success
- Nestor and Luke discuss the evaluation of coaching performance and the importance of player-coach relationships.
- Luke mentions the challenges of evaluating coaching performance and the impact of player accountability on team success.
- Nestor and Luke talk about the importance of player-coach relationships and the role of familiarity in building trust and accountability.
- Luke highlights the importance of player-coach relationships and the role of familiarity in building trust and accountability.
Challenges of Coaching in the NFL
- Nestor and Luke discuss the challenges of coaching in the NFL and the importance of player-coach relationships.
- Luke mentions the challenges of integrating new coaches and the importance of maintaining a positive team culture.
- Nestor and Luke talk about the role of familiarity in building trust and accountability within the team.
- Luke highlights the importance of player-coach relationships and the role of familiarity in building trust and accountability.
Future of the Ravens Coaching Staff
- Nestor and Luke discuss the future of the Ravens coaching staff and the potential for new coaches to bring fresh ideas and innovation.
- Luke mentions the importance of player-coach relationships and the role of familiarity in building trust and accountability.
- Nestor and Luke talk about the challenges of integrating new coaches and the importance of maintaining a positive team culture.
- Luke highlights the importance of player-coach relationships and the role of familiarity in building trust and accountability.
SUMMARY KEYWORDS
Ravens coaching staff, Jesse Minter, Declan Doyle, Anthony Weaver, Lamar Jackson, John Harbaugh, special teams coordinator, offensive coordinator, defensive coordinator, NFL offseason, player accountability, coaching transitions, team expectations, roster building, player performance.
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SPEAKERS
Nestor Aparicio, Luke Jones
Nestor Aparicio 00:01
Welcome home. We are W, N, S, T. Am 1570 to Baltimore. We are Baltimore positive. Bringing the Valentine kisses here for a strangely unsporty Sports Time, unless you got a wife that loves the Olympics and I’m I’m watching the long jumpers and the short jumpers and the luge and the speed skating and ice hockey with my pal Kenny Albert. But I miss football, and that’s why I bring Luke Jones on to talk about such things, all of our sports coverage, by the way, we have a new sponsor in Farnan and Dermer. I’m wearing the gear for the comfort guys. So is Luke. They’ll be sponsoring all of our sports coverage when there is sports coverage. I don’t know if the NBA All Star Game qualifies as sports coverage. Certainly we have no grapefruit yet. We have more talk about the baseball strike than the baseball season. At least this week, from what I’m gathering with players sort of beating drums and what’s going on down in Sarasota. I’m still awaiting my my my press credential status from Mark fine and Katie Griggs and football’s like a week gone. Luke Goodell needs to do something to extend the season. They they’re going to announce an Australia game, or they’re going to do something here this week before. I think they did. I mean, it is really a weird, tender belly here in February where we’re getting rid of the snow that when the Terps are no good. And here, you know, the Capitals in the wizards don’t really market here. And who would market the wizards anyway? And I don’t even know the Hershey bears are playing after the teddy bear game. So it’s sort of a weird time to maybe watch the NBA All Star game, but regroup. I see John Harbaugh doing all the Baltimore rounds with the other media, the real media people this week. So I football’s not like down and especially with the mentor thing here. But you know, the Ravens could hire an old, legendary special teams guide. Some folks might not even notice it.
Luke Jones 02:04
Well, I don’t know so much about that, but it’s we’ve reached the point in the Ravens off offseason, specifically, where the coaching staff has now been hired. You’re albeit less than two weeks out, but the Combine still a little ways away here a free agency is now less than a month away. You kind of settle into, quote, a normal part of the off season, knowing it’s not normal because it’s new. And you know we’re going to hear good thing is, we’re going to hear from Declan Doyle This week, the new offensive coordinator. We’re going to hear from Anthony Weaver this week, the new defensive coordinator, and we’re going to hear from Anthony Levine, the new special teams coordinator.
Nestor Aparicio 02:43
8I know two out of three of those people. Yeah. I’ve known for years.
Luke Jones 02:47
Yeah, no question. And as I joked with another member of the media a couple weeks ago, yeah, you know two of the three. And the other guy sounds like it would have been a lacrosse player for Loyola if you heard Declan Doyle’s name.
Nestor Aparicio 02:59
This is so when the Orioles hire Davey Johnson, who hires Pat Dobson, who hires Mike Flanagan, who hires Terry Crowley, who hires al bumbury, who hires T bone Shelby, who hires like Rick Dempsey, like the ravens, are into that flow a little bit, you know. And I don’t know how much the coach in Minter actually sits with the cost and di Costa says, I drafted Anthony Weaver. I watched Anthony Levine walk in here 15 years ago and make a career. And now we’re, I mean, there is some, there is a little bit of that incestuous thing going on that the in the hardball dicostu, Aussie realm of familiarity, you know, I mean, they’re going with what they know they are
Luke Jones 03:52
a little but, but at the same time, look how many college coaches they hired for their staff. Look how many guys they hired for their staff that don’t have any clear cut ties to the Raven. So I’ll push back on that a little bit.
8Nestor Aparicio 04:04
First of all, there’s ties to mentor too. I would just say, because mentor brought his best friend in as we predicted, it doesn’t do instantly.
Luke Jones 04:12
I mean, every coach does that like no, you’re not going to find a single coach in any sport that’s going to hire a staff, an entire staff, that has no ties to that individual whatsoever. It’s just, I mean, the business world, I think would you find that you bring your friends, Brian Billy brought his brother in law? I mean, right? I mean, I don’t want to. And, you know, that’s kind of a cynical way of categorizing it, but Familiarity is certainly going to be there. And look, you want to hire people that are competent, I don’t think you’re going to hire people that you worked with previously that it didn’t work out well, right? But, yeah, there’s going to be a little bit of that. There’s going to be a little bit of who’s a friend of a friend. I mean, Anthony Levine. Jesse Minter coached Anthony Levine. Jesse Minter was on was one of the defensive backs coach coaches when Anthony Levine was still. Old the Ravens dime back, you know, not and not just playing on special teams. So there’s a little bit of that that goes on at the same time. I look at the staff, and there’s a lot of youth, there’s a lot of guys that come from the college level, you know, you look at the offensive side and, you know, you see some guys that might not have as much experience on paper, but they’ve also hired some guys who have a little more experience. So I think it’s a very interesting staff in that way. Look, one of my pet peeves, and fellow media members do this, and fans do this, and it’s not even a pet peeve as much. You know, that would be harsh to say that, but don’t really know, right? I mean, we don’t really know how it’s all going to gel. We can look at it and say, Okay, that makes sense. You like this about that individual, and you like this? I mean, Declan Doyle, for example, right? I mean, he’s Lamar Jackson’s age, so there’s a lot of inexperience there. He hasn’t called plays before. At the same time, he’s worked with two of the of the brightest offensive minds that you would view in 2025 going into 2026 right, and talking about Sean Payton and talking about Ben Johnson, right? So you’d like to think that he learned some really useful lessons from both of those individuals, and he’s current. Yeah, right, yeah, he’s current. I mean, Declan Doyle is very highly thought of, if you’ve gone and done a little bit of homework with some of the things written about him last year, things that Sean Payton has said about him, things that Ben Johnson has said about him, that said not going to sit here with any meaningful conviction and say that I know that he’s going to be a great offensive coordinator, right? I mean, Anthony Weaver has been a defensive coordinator a couple times, you know? He one year in Houston, and, of course, with Miami the last couple years, he checks boxes that you like. I mean, he’s someone who got head coach a consideration with multiple teams, including the Ravens. In this
Nestor Aparicio 06:50
past I thought the Steelers were going to hire him, to be honest with you, that said, I
Luke Jones 06:54
8mean, he’s, he’s not even going to be calling the plays for the defense, right? That’s going to be Jesse Minter on game day. So it’s not so much a doubt or diminishing him, but how does that relationship work in terms of of Anthony Weaver being the defensive coordinator from Monday through Saturday basically, you know, that’s kind of a simplistic way of looking at it, and then Jesse Minter is calling the actual defense on Sundays. That doesn’t mean Anthony Weaver is not going to continue to have a very, very important role. But how does that transition work? In terms of Weaver doing that day by day week, you know, week by week work as you’re putting together game plans, then how seamless Is it where he hands that to Jesse Minter? And of course, that’s a little simplistic, right? It’s not like Jesse Minter is not going to be doing any prep on the defense. I mean, just doing prep for the entire football team. But how does that work? Right? And I don’t me saying that isn’t casting doubt on the Raven specific situation. That’s just how it works. When you have a head coach that’s going to call plays on offense or defense, there is that question of, how does that work, in terms of the coordinator doing all the laying the groundwork, putting together the game plan, executing that, teaching that to the players over the course of the week, and the offensive or defensive meetings, whichever side of the ball it is, and then you hand the reins to the head coach on Sunday. How seamless will that be? So like like that, and that’s that’s the same case that’s gonna be the case in Buffalo, with Brady calling the plays as the head coach, they’re calling the offense for Josh Allen and the bill’s offense. So that’s just, you know, there’s unknown about that. You never really know how this is going to work, right? I mean, we, we can all, we can all think of different coordinators over the years where on paper, you thought, man, that guy’s going to be a great head coach. That guy’s going to get a great opportunity somewhere, and it happens, and then it doesn’t work out. And we can also remember situations where someone gets hired, and you kind of say, why are they hiring that guy? And it turns out that it works really well. We can all remember retreads being hired, where someone failed at a previous spot, and it it works out really well the second time around, or someone fails the second time around, and generally speaking, that means that’s the end of their opportunity as a head coach. So, you know, I don’t say that to be like, Oh, Luke sitting on the fence here doesn’t like Jesse manner. I mean, far from that. You know, we but we just don’t know, right? I mean, there’s, well,
Nestor Aparicio 09:17
there was going to be a change at some point, harbor was going to be gone, and there was going to be a new person in here, and we spent a week before bashati showed up, saying, What? What will this look like? What will make Steve comfortable? What will make Eric comfortable? What’s the best thing for the Baltimore Ravens? What’s the best thing moving forward? Is John Harbaugh? The best thing Steve didn’t think so. Lot of people didn’t think so. I didn’t think so they threw him out. So what are we going to bring in? Going to bring in fresh blood, going to bring in the Mike McCarthy way, going to bring in the Jason Garrett way, going to bring in the Jim Schwartz way, going to bring in the cliff Kingsbury way. I mean, there were all sorts of directions they could have gone with former head coaches and. Next in lines. They could have hired Anthony Weaver. They could. There’s a there are just so many options that they could have had. And as we look at it now a month later, let’s call it just a month what we’ve seen is quick hook on hardball on that Tuesday afternoon phone call. Week of dangling, bishati shows up. They have a presser. They’re going to go through names. They weed whack through all of these names. They came up with Minter quickly. He was one of the first phone calls. They looked inside, outside, black, white, defense, offense, college, Pro. They did it all. Boom. They do mentor. Mentor very much the minute we saw it. We’re like John Harbaugh, Jim Harbaugh, John Harbaugh, Jim Harbaugh, Harbaugh, Harbaugh, Michigan, Michigan, and they’ve hired a horrible disciple by I mean, there’s no arguing that it’d be like hiring you and saying you and I didn’t work together. It’s like so it’s very comfortable in that way, terminology, ideology, preparation. He knows how John did he knows that Jim did it. He’s going to do it his way, which is going to be 87% the hardball way, if not 92% the hardball way. It ain’t gonna be 22% the hardball way. It’s gonna be mostly the hardball way. And you and I are gonna recognize that. I even recognize that in the press conference in the beginning, that it has sort of some of the Ball Coach qualities that maybe not a nicer, cleaned up version of what John was 15 years ago, with this young, fresh faced guy. But I feel like not a lot’s gonna change dude, like it feels very horrible. I mean, Anthony Levine only knows the horrible it’s all he did is the John horrible way Anthony Weaver here, there Raven’s way, been in and out to cost the guy for sure. I mean, even Declan Doyle going back to like, growing up at the feet of Kirk ference and the Kirk ference Eric the Costa, I don’t think there’s been an off season where the Costa hasn’t been in Iowa hanging out with Kirk ference, having known Kirk ference for 30 years. And it’s no shock that the Iowa Center shows up here and plays and and Marshall yonda showed up here and he’s going to the hall. It’s something pretty good. So I just think that there is a familiarity above and beyond what even you and I talk about. Knowing Eric is long Well, I used to know Eric. Thought a new Eric that they there’s a hardball way, there’s a Ravens way. And if Eric were with you and had his second drink right now and got flippant with his accent, he started throwing it at me, which we’ve done plenty times, many, many times, probably will do at some point. The next time he’s got the stones to sit in the room with me, he’d say we win a lot here, from Ozzy on Ozzy through Brian into John. Now on to me, we win here because of Anthony Levine and Anthony Weaver and John Harbaugh’s ghost and Jim Harbaugh’s ghost. And that’s what Jesse Minter is. He’s the best of all of their ghosts. He’s the AI version of all of the HAR ball good things, maybe with maybe I not, maybe I hope he has more integrity than the last guy did. I’m not holding out hope, and I’ll be writing my dear John Harbaugh Letter This week up at the Baltimore positive under columnist. But I feel like this is going to be a smooth transition, and if the football players can play, they’ll all smell good. You know, if Lamar is the best version of Lamar, and whatever Minter can do to be that guy and Declan Doyle, because to me, Lamar, Lamar, Lamar. You know, here we are against it’s going to be Lamar, Lamar Lamar, because he is the franchise. I mean, we with him in, they have a chance. With him out, they have no chance. And I don’t know, I haven’t heard from him. We’re probably not going to hear much from him. But this is Harbaugh University moved along as I see it, from a coaching perspective and an ideology perspective, that they did not want a heart transplant out there. They just wanted a new king.
Luke Jones 14:26
Fair enough, everything you said, I would just say that you left one giant omission. Mike McDonald, who just won a Super Bowl, and he’s worked for Jim and John Harbaugh. I mean, like everything you could say about Jesse Minter being a hardball
Nestor Aparicio 14:39
guy, oh, I’m not saying it’s bad. This is the decision. They’re just
8Luke Jones 14:43
saying, as much as you’re emphasizing the horrible element, I would say, What about the mike McDonald element? And you know that? Because that’s where the similarities are a little more direct, in terms of those two work so closely together in Baltimore. I mean, going back to when I said the offseason. Know, 2018 when they revamped their defensive system, Mike Martindale was a new DC, but you had these younger guys that were helping to streamline this system and but I would say like that everything about the hard ball and not and I wasn’t suggesting that you were making that a negative. I just wanted to point out the biggest piece of information, or biggest piece of evidence that Eric dicostica point out to you that that way worked pretty well. Was well, it just worked out really well for Mike McDonald, taking a lot of those same principles to Seattle, albeit with Schneider, who is another Hall of Fame level executive. But you know, players are still important, right? I mean, as much as we’re going to talk about new coaches and what that means for, you know, Declan Doyle and Lamar Jackson and what the defense gonna like the players have to play. I want. I was so bored over the weekend. You know what I did? I actually went back and put on the week one ravens, bills game, you know, the season opener. And as painful as that was for the last
Nestor Aparicio 15:54
into a sub shop in Delaware the other night, and flaco’s wearing the white Bengals jerseys playing the Steelers. Put it on. You can go back to week six, if you want to.
Luke Jones 16:05
Yeah, and you know what I saw in that game? I saw, I did see things from a coaching element that left a lot to be desired. But you know what else I saw missed tackles and guys doing things on the field where I’d say, do you really need a coach to tell you that that wasn’t a good play? You know what I mean? So how much of that was coaching and how much of that was individual players need to be, need to be accountable
Nestor Aparicio 16:28
8on Zach or at now that this is all over with and he’s got another job, speaking of going off with World Champions. I mean, Zach Orr is going to be a punch line around here from from two years from his defensive coordinator stint here, which I think is unfortunate. You know what I mean? That’s about Marcus Williams not being any good, or Darius Washington getting hurt, not having a pass rush at all, not having guys come on, Matt Abigail disappearing last year, Marlon Humphrey getting old. Roquan Smith being, you know, a cut above ordinary. Like, I like, there were a lot of players that you could look at. But the Zach or thing here, when we look at, was he a good defensive coordinator or not? Get much better over the 16 weeks later, they all got fired. Yeah.
Luke Jones 17:12
I mean, the answer is no. I mean, then look how much of that is the players and how much of that is on the coaching. The answer is yes, right? It means that it’s it’s on both and as much as you can look at different elements, like, for example, I just mentioned that Buffalo game. I you know, there was the that throw in the flat to James Cook, where real quant Smith just flat out missed a tackle. It’s like you’re, that’s your $20 million linebacker. He’s got to make that play. However, are there other instances where Zach or or whoever you know, whatever the breakdown is, you know, the past defense collectively, where are the you’d say, are the Ravens putting roquan Smith in the best position, in that spot? And if the answer is no, then that’s coaching, right? I mean, so it’s really difficult to kind of parcel that out and to try to divide blame, the answer is it, there was plenty of blame to go around. And you know, if you’re if the if it’s Zach or the answer is, No, he wasn’t a good defensive coordinator here because they weren’t good as a defense collectively here. So that doesn’t mean that he’s not a capable coach that can’t find success elsewhere. I mean, I’ll say this, the fact that he’s going to Seattle. Mike McDonald thinks enough of him as a coach in isolation, in a vacuum, at least as an inside linebackers coach, to say, hey, come to my staff. Right? So I think that right there tells you that it’s not incompetent, you know, in terms of like he doesn’t understand how to teach football. But you question, was it the right spot at the right time for the right individual? And I think looking at the two year body of work, that answer was no. Now that said, was it all Zach Gore’s fault? No, I’ll certainly put what needs to be on individual players, as far as them having to take accountability, injuries were a part of that we talked about it. Nnamdi Mada BK, that injury was massive for this ravens pass rush. That was already a question mark going into 2025 so you know, we’re going to see what happens with matabique. There’s been a cryptic tweet or post or social media post here or there, that maybe is good news. Maybe not. I mean, it might be good news about something else with his life. We don’t know, right? But you know based on how it’s gone, you know, you’re kind of bracing for the worst, hoping for the best, but you don’t know. So that said to sit here and say everything that plagued the Ravens defense in 2025 and the first half of 2024 was all on Zach Gord. No, I’ll reject that. You know, you mentioned Marcus Williams. I mean, where did Marcus Williams play this past year? Like, did he play at all? Right? I mean, he had tryouts and, like, you heard his name here and there, but certainly didn’t revitalize his career. Right? So what happened there? I mean, that was a guy the Ravens gave, what was it, a $70 million contract to four off seasons ago, and, you know, worked out okay the first couple years, other than some injuries, but he couldn’t play after that. So how much of that is on coaching and how much of that was the individual, right? And that’s, that’s what makes this so it makes football so fascinating, right? And we talked about this a little bit when we had our Hall of Fame conversation, you know, at Costas a couple weeks ago, and I made them the point to you that I don’t envy Hall of Fame voters because of just how much information you have to try to process and evaluate. And you know, just in general, when you’re talking about football, you have 22 players on the field at once. They all have different assignments, right? And you’re trying to look at that. That’s why I I empathize with officiating more than most. I think that’s an extremely difficult job to try to truly manage what’s happening with 22 different players moving at once in real time. It’s easy for us to look at things when we slow it down in HD and super slow motion, and we have eight camera angles, right? But when things happen in real time, your eyes play they play tricks on you. So I think it’s tough. I say the same thing about home plate umpires. When you have pitchers that are throwing 100 miles per hour and breaking stuff at 93 that looks like a wizard, you know, develop the pitch. I mean, these are really difficult things to look at. So to sit here and try to say all that plagued the Ravens last year was all coaching, right? Or all John Hall, well, it felt like there was some
Nestor Aparicio 21:33
chaos defensively, especially beginning of the year, where guys on the back end didn’t know calls. There was Miss miscommunication as much as missed tackles, right?
Luke Jones 21:42
Well, and in a very simplistic way, this is where I’ll empathize a little bit. If you think about what happened the first half of 2024 they had the Marcus Williams issue, right? Where he wasn’t playing well, they’re having all those, all those issues in coverage. Were like over under routes, and you know, the digs, the deep ends, things like that, where, you know, the linebackers are getting poor drops, and the safeties weren’t coming up, they’re getting beat all that. And what did they do? They brought our Darius Washington into the lineup, and they moved Kyle Hamilton back to a natural safety spot. And it worked wonders, right? We kind of forget, I mean, as much as Now will the narrative on Zach Gore will be that their defense wasn’t good the the two years he was there, and statistically it wasn’t I’m not going to argue with that. However, if we do recall when they made those changes in what was it, mid November, their defense was really good the rest of the way. Not that, I’m not saying it was a 2000 ravens, but statistically it was right up there. So they, they use Kyle Hamilton in a more traditional, conventional safety role to fix the defense in 2024 well, then they come out of the gate in 2025 knowing that they lost our Darius Washington and you were counting on Malachi Starks as a rookie. And they, they kept Kyle Hamilton at that safety spot, even though all off season, I remember talking to you, and, you know, other people were saying this as well, that ideally you wanted to get Hamilton back to that more versatile at the line of scrimmage kind of role well, and they didn’t do that. And what had fixed their defense the previous year suddenly was part of the problem. Not that Hamilton was playing poorly. We know that wasn’t the case, but you missed him right? So they had to then pivot and kind of go back to the way they were trying to do things early in 2024 so, you know, it’s just a lot, and in hindsight, you know, they hired a first time defensive coordinator who had never called plays before. That’s why. That’s why I’ll continue to have a little bit of pause about Declan Doyle. Not that I don’t think Declan Doyle can be a really good offensive coordinator, but that’s a lot of new to navigate. That’s a lot of new for a first time head coach who’s going to be calling the defense now, I don’t have doubts about Jesse Minters aptitude for defense, right? It’s why the Ravens hired him, but in terms of him navigating things as a new head coach, calling the defense on Sundays and Declan Doyle calling an offense for the first time in his career, no matter what you think about his mind, offensively, that’s just a lot of new to navigate to think that there aren’t going to be some hiccups. Now, when I say that, that doesn’t mean I think the ravens are going seven and 10, but could they lose a couple games early in the season when things aren’t fully calibrated with a brand new staff? Sure. I mean, that’s the difference here, and the same thing Buffalo’s gonna be doing the same thing Pittsburgh with McCarthy. I mean, you know, to a lesser extent, because no one’s viewed the Steelers as any kind of a serious Super Bowl contender in years, whereas going into the year, people are going to view the bills and the Ravens as they have in recent years, where you say, Hey, you should be one of the top teams, that you should be some of the top teams in the apps, and if you’re not, we hired the wrong coach. Sure. I mean, that’ll be the narrative. What. Right or wrong, that’ll be the narrative. So, yeah, so, so you do look at that and you say, how are you going to navigate that? And look, that’s not to say that this coaching staff won’t be phenomenal. I don’t know that. I mean, Mike McDonald in his first year, the Seahawks missed the playoffs, but they went 10 and seven. It’s not like they had a poor year and then they win the Super Bowl year too. So point is, even with the Seahawks, they didn’t have the same level of expectation when Mike McDonald came in that the Ravens do with Jesse Minter, because you have a top five quarterback and you have the perception of a roster that’s not perfect, but has talented players on each side of the ball and has veterans on each side of the ball, like Derek Henry, for example, where you say, hey. Like, don’t get me wrong, I’m not doubting Derek Henry in 2026 but he’s not getting any younger. So like, it’s go time. Like, you don’t want to waste another year. You want to do this now. So, so there is a little bit more of that that I think is a little more challenging for the Raven staff, for Buffalo staff, and that’s where you do look at this thing and say that’s where it is really important that Jesse Minter has Rick Minter on his staff, that they have a veteran offensive assistant coach and Joe Lombardi, right? That they have someone you know, their past game coordinator, Marcus Brady, you know they these are some names that you do recognize to mix in with what is quite a few, you know, quite a few offensive, or not, offensive, defensive and offensive coaches from the collegiate level, where you say, hey, that’s that’s exciting, that’s some fresh blood, that’s some new ideas that some younger guys that, on paper, should be able to connect with players a little bit more that, in a way that, You know, and I don’t want to make this about John Harbaugh, but like, someone that’s in their 50s or 60s might not connect with the younger generation quite as easily. Now, that’s not everything, but that’s part of it, right? I mean, it has to be so. I mean, I think that’s one thing that the Ravens do look at this thing and say, Hey, we have Declan Doyle, who’s lamar’s age. We have Anthony Weaver, who’s in his mid 40s, who should still be able to connect. And he played, and that brings a different level of credibility. Anthony Levine’s in his late 30s, he played, you know, I mean, even, you know, I I pulled up, you know, I know some other people cited this as well, like Jordan stout was asked about a game, or after a game. I think it was after the Jets game, something like that. Forget what it was, but he made a comment that the special teams guys get so fired up with the energy that Anthony Levine brought as the Assistant Special teams coach. I don’t think that was a knock on Chris Horton or Randy Brown or anything like that. It’s just there’s a different level of credibility there. When you are talking about a former player that said Zach Gore brought the same credibility, and it didn’t work out. So, you know, you just, you have to look at it through the lens of trying to evaluate it from every angle. And I think they’ve, they have a really interesting, diverse Does, does trend younger kind of coaching staff? There’s no question about that, that will bring some unknown, but there’s also upside there, and there’s also that potential to innovate and to be something that’s a little more cutting edge, you know? I mean, I’ll continue to say, you know, regardless of what happens in Cleveland now or how the end was perceived, Todd Monken did a really good job with Lamar Jackson. If you look at what their offense became in 2023 and 24 I’m not there’s no way I’m going to look at that as a failure. That said, You do look at it now and say, Man, is there a way that Declan Doyle might be able to reach and connect with Lamar that some of the previous coordinators, or, you know, in the case of the head coach, mentor. Now, compared to horrible they might connect with Lamar.
8Nestor Aparicio 28:43
By the way, Roman is treated like the village idiot. He’s not treated like the guy that helped Lamar get to MVP, sure.
Luke Jones 28:49
Well, I mean, here’s the, here’s, here’s how I describe Greg Roman. Greg Roman, and I don’t mean this for the ravens, I mean this anywhere, you know, going back to his days with you know, he was at Stanford, he was at San Francisco with hard Jim Harbaugh and Colin Kaepernick, right, right? I think he is the kind of coach that raises the floor for your offense from a run game standpoint. I think he’s fantastic when it comes to the run game, but he has a ceiling. I think there have been enough stops and multiple quarterbacks now that there’s a very distinct ceiling. So would I want Greg Roman as my offensive coordinator in this day and age? Well, it depends what I’m looking for, right? If I’m a rebuilding team that has a very young quarterback that we’re going to have to lean really hard on our running game, Greg Roman might be okay for a year or two as my offensive coordinator, but is he going to be the guy that gets us over the hump and has the ceiling? No, he just doesn’t. And and I, I’ll say that that said to your point. He did for the first few years that he was in place. He did a really good job. Now it got stale after a while, and they got to a point where they’re passing game Absolutely. Absolutely hit a ceiling, and it was time, and they made the right decision, probably, you know, not, probably, I would say all along, they were a year too late on that. I just think that was the case that said not going to look back and dismiss what the Ravens coaching staff and Lamar Jackson and Mark Ingram and Gus Edwards and Marshall yonder in the O line did in 2019 I mean, that was a record setting offense that the Ravens never seen in Baltimore, you know, with the Ravens offense. So, yeah, but at the same time, you know, it’s funny, I saw our old pal Brian Billick doing some, you know, did some, some, some sit downs at the Super Bowl, as he’s apt to do. I heard him cite what I’ve cite, what we have cited many times. You know, he cited Bill Walsh once again, who always said you shouldn’t be in a place more than 10 years, you know, and you know. And he was talking about John Harbaugh specifically, you know, because he was asked about that situation. But I think it holds true for most coaches. I think it’s very rare, and that’s why what John Harbaugh just did, what Mike Tomlin just did, what Belichick did, what Andy Reid has now done, basically in two places, is so unique that there’s a shelf life. And as much as it’s about ball and you think about X’s and O’s and playbooks and all that, there’s also the interpersonal side to that, where you have to connect with people and build relationships and motivate and know when to put your arm around someone and pat them on the back, and know when to give them a boot to the butt and say, Hey, pick it up. This is below the bar that is such a challenging job in any walk of life, let alone a career field where you’re often in charge of individuals making, some of them making more money than you make, right? I mean, think about that. Lamar Jackson makes more money than John Harbaugh ever made in a season, right? Roquan Smith made more money than what John Harbaugh was making. So, you know, you don’t have too many instances of that in the world. In the real world with business where a CEO is talking to quote subordinates that are making, some of them making more money than him. So it’s just, it’s a really unique career field, and I’m getting kind of psychological here a little bit. But the psychology is part of the job. I mean, it absolutely is. So that those are the things where you hope that all of the homework that to Costa did, and all the phone calls and all the zooms and all the talking to not just the guys you ultimately hired, but others you you talk to and got ideas, and got ideas from someone else to go talk to this individual who maybe didn’t have ties to the ravens, but you say, hey, that that guy could be a good fit For what we’re looking for at that specific role, you know, it’s, there’s a you’re betting on people. You know, these are all calculated bets on individuals, on humans. Yes, they need to know football that that’s obvious, right? I mean, and that needs to be a really important part. And that’s where Jesse Minter is different from John Harbaugh, because he brings a very distinct expertise to not special teams, and I don’t want to dismiss special teams, but it’s the third phase that lags behind the other two, right? We all agree with that there aren’t as many special teams plays over the course of a game as there are offense or defense. But the difference here with Jesse mintern is the same thing with Mike McDonald breaking off of the hardball tree is you have a very distinct level of expertise to your side of the football that your hope, that you hope, will pay some extra dividends. That, frankly, when things went awry for John har balls, a John Harbaugh coach team on offense or defense, there was only so much he could do as an individual, whereas with Jesse Minter, I mean that their defense falters. Yeah, you’ll still point to Anthony Weaver to some degree, but it’s going to be on Jesse Minter, because he’s calling it on Sundays, right? So that’s where you look at this thing. And there will be a little bit of a different expectation. And you know what? Not, not completely different, even though he didn’t call plays for most of his tenure. But it’ll kind of be how we look at Brian Billick, how we looked at Brian Billick at times when the Ravens offense wasn’t very good, and you’d say, well, wait a second, you’re supposed to be the offensive genius. Now, the thing that helped Billick was he won a Super Bowl in year two.
Nestor Aparicio 34:16
Well, I tell you what this is the interesting part for you, for the first time in your career, you’re going to be able to look at the head coach hopefully from my seat in the front row and ask about defensive calls late in the game where he’s the guy who actually made the call. That hasn’t happened in a long, long time,
Luke Jones 34:31
8no doubt about it. I mean, you go back to oh seven with Billick at the end. You know, his last couple years as Raven’s head coach, he what he took the reins from fossil when they fired him during the bye week in oh six, and then I believe he called plays for the rest of his time. They they brought, you know, new Heisel was new Hazel was here, yeah, pub. But I’m pretty sure Billick was still calling plays and he wasn’t, I believe, yeah. So, you know, I mean 19 years, you know? So, yeah, I mean that that is different, whereas for the last 18 years. You were asking the head coach about what his coordinator was doing on either side of the ball, and how many times. I mean, go back to the Patriots game in December, right week 16, there was a very clear breakdown in terms of why the heck Derek Henry wasn’t in the ball game. And you know, there was that whole Well, you know that you know Todd Monken, you know Willie tagger, like, you know all that, where you just say, like, but, but you’re the head coach. And now, anything that happens with defense, yeah, Jesse Minter, behind closed doors, it might be an issue with one of the position coaches, right? There might be some kind of breakdown there. But if Jesse Minter is calling the defense, you’re going to be asking him directly, because he’s ultimately in charge of it. So it’s very interesting dynamic, and a very interesting dynamic for a first year head coach, coaching a team that has very high expectations. Again, I don’t say that to suggest that it’s not going to work out, but to sit here and say that I I have 100% you know, could see into the future that it’s not going to be, you know, not going to have any issues, not going to hit any snags. I mean, I’m guessing they’ll have some hiccups here and there. Mike McDonald had hiccups his first six games as the Ravens defensive coordinator. Mike McDonald didn’t make the playoffs in his first year in Seattle, so it’s hard, you know, it’s a challenging gig, and it’s one reason why the Ravens didn’t make a change like this for the last 18 years.
Nestor Aparicio 36:28
Well, I had a feeling that Peyton was going to fail in Denver. You had a feeling Pete Carroll was going to fail in Vegas. Everybody thinks Mike McCarthy is going to fail in Pittsburgh. And I think he might be the smartest guy in the room through all of this because, like, as much as there’s this perception, dude, Mike McCarthy, has been doing this for two decades. He’s way the hell ahead of Declan Doyle. And if he sat over a drink, he’d tell you that, and Minter, he’d say, you know, this is the junior varsity here. I’ve been I’ve sat in the seat for 20 years. I know how this works. I’ve got 300 games worth of management in doing this, as well as my apprenticeship, which look like theirs. So there is a point where, like, those hiccups and those mistakes, that’s the thing that John arbaugh can bring to the Meadowlands that none of his Joe judges. I mean, I started looking at some of the names of the people that I don’t even know their names. The old coaches. The Giants have had six coaches since the one that mattered, and he at least brings big pants to the family. Now I want to say this, by the way, Luke Jones is your last thing for you. Declan Doyle this week, um, I don’t know, dude, he’s the new dude. And Lamar is making 50 million, 60,000,070 2 million, 72 million, whatever, 74 million, whatever it’s going to be. How much have they talked or have they, like, where, where do you think that is it so far with 229 year olds, like, I’m fascinated by Declan Doyle, yeah.
Luke Jones 37:56
I mean, it’s, it is? It’s very interesting, right? I mean, to have a coach be that young and but, you know, and I said it to you at the time, I mean, you know, you’re hoping this is your Sean McVay from a play calling standpoint, or this is your Sean Payton from a play calling standpoint. Now, that said, the problem with that, and this kind of goes back to, you know, where I was from a philosophical standpoint, you know, in a vacuum, problem is, if he does a great job, he’s probably gonna be a head coach a year from now, you know, I mean, that’s, that’s kind of the risk you run with that. I mean, and maybe they say, Well, he’s 29 I mean, you know McVay? What McVay was 30? I think when the Rams hired him, I mean, he was kind of the exception. You generally, well, 10
Nestor Aparicio 38:38
jobs just went out. How many they’re going to have next year? Yeah?
8Luke Jones 38:41
Well, yeah. I mean, more than you think, I think that’s, that’s generally the way I trend at this point in time.
Nestor Aparicio 38:48
But well, if Lamar can’t play, Minter might be the first guy over the side of the boats, right? I mean, like Lamar this, this is lamar’s prime. This is not Lamar. Let’s go nine and eight this year, because we have a rookie coach. This has to be, you know, fireworks and sparkles, and it needs to feel like five and two to start the season. It it can’t feel like three and four. I just, I don’t know, I think they need to harness Lamar. I’m going to keep going back to that. And whatever that is, this is the guy that they’ve charged to harness Lamar, not Jesse Minter, not any of that. And you and I have had conversations on and off the air as to what really motivates Lamar and what will ring out the best to get the best out of Lamar, whatever that is
Luke Jones 39:36
right now? Yeah, I mean, it’s going to be fascinating, from the standpoint of they are the same age you have. I mean, Lamar is entering his ninth year. Like, think about that for a second. He’s been around. We’re, you know, he’s only a couple years away from being the Ravens quarterback, as long as Joe Flacco was right. I mean, it’s still a couple years away, but it’s not. Like the way you thought of it five or six years ago, where it’s like this, 2223 24 year old phenom that’s taken the league by storm, and like all that now we still, I mean, he saw, he did it in the regular season finale. I mean, the couple of the plays he made against Pittsburgh that were miraculous in nature. I mean, like, so there’s all that, but he’s, he’s been in the league a long time now, and as fascinating as it is to have someone that’s his age where you say, all right, they should be able to connect in a in a way that’s a little more different, not that they’re exactly the same or anything like that, but just from an age standpoint, it catches your attention more so than you know, Todd monk, and being more than twice as old as Lamar, you know, or about twice as old as Lamar, I suppose. So. You have that factor, but you do also have the factor of someone who hasn’t called plays before. Now, let me be clear, I’m not saying that’s a disqualifier, right? That doesn’t mean someone can’t do the job, but it does make a very real unknown question, right? When you haven’t called the place, and then, to me, what’s the most interesting factor? And look, this will be the case for Declan Doyle with any of these guys. Because, other than, like, rookies, you know, who are 2122 he’s going to be coaching guys that are older than him, even, right? I mean, Ronnie Stanley’s older than Declan Doyle. So you know, some of these other guys on this roster older than Declan Doyle, so how well is he able to the connecting and building rapport part is part of it, but part of part of that is coaching and holding accountable and saying, Hey, that’s not the way we want it. And knowing when to coach someone in a Go get them kind of way where you pat them on the back. But also knowing, and I’m not, this isn’t Lamar, this is just players in general. We’re also knowing those times where you’ve got to call them out a little bit and you’ve got to say, Nope, that that’s not what we want, you know. That’s not what we want, you know. So, so there’s that. So how will he do with that? I would assume the Ravens did plenty of homework, talking to Declan Doyle’s bosses and people who have worked with him to say he’s really good at that, you know, like, don’t, don’t, don’t be. Don’t confuse age with a lack of, you know, fortitude to say that he won’t get in guys, get in a guy’s face when it’s warranted, you know, when it’s constructive to do that. So that’s the part with specifically bringing it back to Lamar that you do ask, how will that work? Yeah, and from Lamar standpoint, again, this is anyone who suddenly has a coach at the same age as you will you respond to that individual in the appropriate manner that you need to, in terms of, like, the buy in, right? That you’re really going to trust and believe in that guy, not, not like that. You’re going to be disrespectful, but like that, you have genuine trust that, hey, that that’s our guy.
Nestor Aparicio 42:59
8That big trust that guy’s a
Luke Jones 43:00
genius, right? And the way that Lamar bought into monkey in 23 and 24 and for whatever reason, it wasn’t, you know, it wasn’t seamless in 25 right? And, and I don’t want to mean that, that there was like this, you know, that they were broken, but it didn’t work as well, right? It didn’t gel as well in year three for any of them, right? I mean, there were plenty of anonymous people going to, you know, going to reporters and talking about this or that, and guys being unhappy with their role and not getting the ball enough at all. I mean, there’s all that
Nestor Aparicio 43:28
Isaiah likely was yelling at fans on the way out of the building video about it.
Luke Jones 43:32
Yeah, you know, you know, Bateman has, has already, you know, there’s already been social media stuff with Bateman earlier this offseason about him saying, like, you know, acknowledging he wasn’t thrilled. This is the time of the year for all of that, right? Well, and that’s you know, that, you know, I mentioned Bateman specifically, like, does he come back? Or do they say, All right, we’ve had too many off seasons where this isn’t working. Well, do you try to work out a trade with him? I don’t know, right? I mean, or do you say, hey, fresh start. Fresh eyes on him. We know he’s a talented guy. We saw what he did not this past year, but the year before, when he caught all the touchdowns and Lamar was throwing deep balls to him. Do we want to really get rid of that? He’s not making that much money, you know, so you’re doing all that evaluation, but, but yeah, you know, specifically with dec, you know, I look at it like this. I mean, would the same idea apply for Anthony Levine? Well, he’s a first time special teams coordinator, but it’s special teams, right? I don’t say that to to mean it’s not important. It is, but it’s not as important or the offense as the offense or the defense. Right? Now, I look at it like this, this ravens defense. My biggest question questions for the Ravens defense at this point are personnel, right? I mean, like players, like they they’ve got to add to their defensive line. They need, they need edge rushers. You know, gonna have to look at corner. If you cut Marlon Humphrey or not, you’re gonna have to look at corner, right? I mean, Wiggins is going to be one of the starting outside corners. Who’s the other one going to be? Is it going to be Humphrey, or is it gonna be someone else? So, but from a coaching standpoint, you have Jesse Minter. And you have Anthony Weaver, the defensive coaching staff better be on point and fine, because on it looks like it should be fine and on point. Well, it’s not the better side of the ball. Well, agreed, but, but the point is, I feel more confident in the coaching leadership on the defensive side right now, because you have two defensive coordinators, basically, right? I mean, so, but with Declan Doyle, that’s that, that’s just a lot, you know, that’s a lot on his plate, that’s new and a lot to manage. So, you know, you asked me at the, you know, I’ve kind of answered everything, but the first thing you mentioned was how much I think they’ve talked Well, you know, the understanding is that Lamar was, you know, what’s getting input with the offensive coordinator search as well, in the same way as he did with the head coach. Now, doesn’t mean he was sitting there conducting the interviews, but I believe they’ve talked, I I would say they probably haven’t talked a ton, because, one, because it’s the nature of this time of year, in the off season, right? I mean, generally, from a CBA standpoint, we can get into the NFL, Pa and all that stuff at some point. I’m sure we will. But, you know, you’re not supposed to have extensive communication with players this time of year anyway, and obviously a coaching search. So there’s, there’s some wiggle room with that, you know, but at the same time, you know, do I think that they’re that they’ve talked for hours day after day since Declan Doyle was hired a couple weeks ago. I’m guessing that probably hasn’t been quite that much, but I do think they asked for input. I do think they had them talk to each other. I do think that Lamar liked the vibes and liked what he heard from what Declan Doyle’s vision is for a Lamar Jackson led offense. I’m guessing they jived in that way. And I’m guessing there’s excitement and optimism about that. That said, My goodness. I mean, think about anyone, anyone, whenever you go into a new place or you get a new boss, you have you might have fantastic first impressions. It doesn’t always stay that way. And on the flip side, sometimes you might have some doubts, and it ends up being great, or you might have a good vibe and it ends up just being good, and then that’ll be great. So you’re hoping, you know, I’m sure there was a good vibe. I don’t think the Ravens. I don’t think the Ravens hire Declan Doyle. If Lamar is very, very lukewarm to the idea, like, I don’t think, you know, I think Lamar gave, signed off on it, you know, with, with at least, you know, a level of enthusiasm that he was capable of giving, knowing that, you know, they’re not like guys that worked together previously or anything like that. So, but time will tell, right? I mean, ultimately, you can do a meet and greet, or, you know, you get an introductory press conference, you know, from a media standpoint. But does that mean you really know that coach just yet? No, I mean, Jesse Minter, I said hello to a couple times over the years when he was previously in Baltimore, that was the extent of the conversation. Had a chance to talk to him a little bit on his introductory day. But media members specifically will, and players, obviously much more. So will get a chance to see what he’s like when you’re working day to day, I mean, and that’s the same thing with Lamar with Declan Doyle, when they’re finally in the meeting rooms and talking and working on ball every single day, then that’s when you get to see how great the relationship is going to be. So you’re projecting, right? You’re trying to make it’s not an educated guess. You know, that would be a little too simplistic, because, my gosh, I mean, I’ll say this much these coaches, you know, these coaching searches, the work they put in, is exhaustive. I mean, it’s exhausting. How much work they do. I don’t doubt that that said history. Now, not the Ravens specifically, because the Ravens have a pretty good track record overall, you know, with hiring head coaches, but with coordinators and all the position coaches you have to hire. I’d be lying to you if I sat here and looked at this entire staff right now and and if you ask me if any, if there’s going to be a couple guys that end up being, you know, maybe not, the best at their job. That’s generally how it works, right? There’s turnover every single year. You know, you the assistant linebackers coach or the assistant O line coach or the running backs coach and, and I’m just not the Raven specifically, just in general, you always have some of that. So a lot of big personalities, loud personalities. There’s a lot of money involved when it comes to these things. You know, coaches and players wanting to be coached and put in the right position to not just go out there and win, but make money and get their next contract and all that. I mean, there’s, it’s a lot. These are a lot of big, big egos at work. You know, coaches and players have huge egos. I mean, you kind of have to to get to that point, right? I mean confidence, you know, maybe ego isn’t always the word, but confidence and swagger and, you know, self belief and all that. You know, there’s a lot of that that works. And to try to sit here and piece, you know, piece work that together and put together a staff and everything, I mean, it’s always going to be some question. But on paper. You know, I think it’s an interesting staff. I think there’s a lot of talent on the staff. Think there’s a lot of youth, but they’ve also mixed in some some veteran coaches at some spots that I think will be beneficial. But yeah, there’s going to be some unknown. And that also goes back to what Eric dicost is going to do from a roster building standpoint, because he’s got work to do. And there’s going to be with HAR ball out of the picture. There’s going to be a brighter spotlight on Da Costa, because, okay, you have all these brilliant young coaches now that you brought in the place, and you know you’re cutting edge in that way. Well, go out and get some players that they can put in the right positions to to be better in the areas that you need to be better. Come 2026
8Nestor Aparicio 50:39
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