Understanding the DNC and its next challenge to American democracy

Local attorney Robbie Leonard discusses the reality of American politics for Democrats seeking checks and balances with Nestor at Costas Inn in Dundalk on the Maryland Crab Cake Tour. Wanna run for office? He did a couple of times and updates us on what it means to be a member of the Democratic National Committee.

Nestor Aparicio and local attorney Robbie Leonard discussed the complexities of American politics, particularly the role of the Democratic National Committee (DNC). Leonard, a DNC committee member, emphasized the importance of grassroots involvement and public finance campaigns. They highlighted the rising gas prices, currently at $3.49 per gallon, and the impact of AI on legal practice and society. Leonard criticized the misuse of AI in court cases and warned of potential job losses due to AI. They also touched on the need for political accountability and the challenges of balancing technological advancements with societal needs.

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Maryland Crab Cake Tour and Political Discussion

• Nestor Aparicio introduces the Maryland Crab Cake Tour, mentioning the Harlem Globetrotter scratch offs and the presence of GBMC and other sponsors.
• Nestor humorously recounts an interaction with a lady waving a $20 bill at him, indicating he is well-known in the area.
• Nestor discusses the political involvement of Robbie Leonard, a local attorney who ran a campaign to put his name on lawns around Baltimore County.
• Nestor reminisces about attending Democratic National Party conventions and the excitement of being involved in party politics.

Gas Prices and Political Involvement

• Robbie Leonard and Nestor discuss the rising gas prices, with Robbie mentioning the current price of gas at $3.49 and predicting it might go over $5 a gallon.
• Robbie shares his experience of filling up his car with gas to avoid higher prices in the future.
• Nestor reflects on the impact of OPEC and the involvement of cartels and the Mafia in the oil industry.
• Nestor transitions to discussing the importance of talking about important issues like the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, and the impact of international events on American politics.

American Perception Abroad and Political Influence

• Nestor and Robbie discuss the perception of the United States as an “evil empire” by other countries, especially during international events like the World Baseball Classic and the Olympics.
• Nestor reminisces about the Cold War era and the role of the United States in global politics.
• Robbie emphasizes the importance of understanding the global perspective and the need for American politics to align with international values.
• Nestor highlights the unique position Robbie holds in the Democratic Party, allowing him to influence local and national politics.

Role of Committee Members and Delegates

• Robbie explains his role as a committee member and delegate for the Democratic National Committee, detailing the responsibilities and the process of being elected.
• Nestor and Robbie discuss the upcoming primary election on June 23, where voters will choose candidates for various positions, including central committee members.
• Robbie describes the process of selecting state party leadership and representatives for the Democratic National Committee.
• Nestor and Robbie discuss the importance of grassroots involvement in the political process and the need for average citizens to step up and run for office.

Challenges and Opportunities in Local Politics

• Nestor shares his experience of considering running for office and the challenges he faced, including the need to raise money and the time commitment required.
• Robbie encourages more people to run for office, emphasizing the importance of having average citizens involved in the political process.
• Nestor reflects on the impact of political involvement on his personal and professional life, including the support he received from friends and colleagues.
• Robbie discusses the importance of public finance campaigns and the need for candidates to rely on grassroots support rather than wealthy donors.

Impact of AI on Legal Practice and Society

• Robbie shares a story about an attorney using AI to generate fake court cases, highlighting the potential dangers of relying on AI in legal practice.
• Nestor and Robbie discuss the broader impact of AI on society, including its role in driving up energy prices and the need for smart government regulation.
• Robbie expresses concerns about the potential job loss due to AI and the need for a universal basic income to support workers.
• Nestor emphasizes the importance of embracing technology and finding ways to harness AI for the benefit of society.

Personal Reflections and Future Plans

• Nestor and Robbie discuss their personal interests, including their love for sports and the challenges of maintaining a healthy lifestyle.
• Robbie shares his excitement about the upcoming Orioles season and the importance of starting the season with a healthy team.
• Nestor reflects on the impact of AI on his personal life, including its role in improving his work efficiency and productivity.
• Robbie and Nestor discuss the importance of staying informed and engaged in the political process, and the need for continued dialogue and collaboration.

SUMMARY KEYWORDS

American politics, Democratic National Committee, Robbie Leonard, Baltimore County, public finance campaigns, AI impact, energy prices, legal system, campaign finance, grassroots involvement, political corruption, election process, Maryland crab cake tour, Orioles season, constitutional rights.

SPEAKERS

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Nestor Aparicio, Robbie Leonard

Nestor Aparicio  00:00

Welcome home. We are W, N, S, T, am 1570 Towson, Baltimore. We’re Baltimore positive. We are positively rolling through the Maryland crab cake tour. I’ve got the Harlem Globetrotter scratch offs. Lady came over here from the other table over there. She’s waving a $20 bill at me. She’s waving a 20 at me because I gave her a ticket 10 minutes ago. So real winners. We’re here at Costas in the original we’re here in Dundalk. We’re not in the Timonium location. We’ve been there plenty. I came in here. They’re like, who are you? They still let you in here. I mean, and I get a little hard time from Edgemere, but I have imported Towson down here to Dundalk, even though I’ll never be a towsonite, I’ll always be a dundalkian, but we’re at Koco’s. It’s all brought to you by friends at the Maryland lottery. We’re gonna have GBMC is along with us, as well as for farnand and Dermer. See, I knew the comfort guys. They’re with us, and Luke will be with us. He’s our sports guy. Al will be here later on. I’m gonna do some AI today, but I’m gonna start things off with politics and law for $100 Robbie Leonard is a local attorney who ran a campaign to put his names on his name on lawns all around Baltimore County. I’ll let you talk more about that, but at one point you wore free the bird shirt too. So there will be some baseball in this segment. We’re not going to bore people to tears. But when I hear about the Democratic National Party. I hear about the Republican party when we go to Cleveland, Detroit, Milwaukee, wherever they’re having a convention, they hold the signs up. It’s been going on all my life. You know, my dad talked about it with Kennedy. Ted venetoulis would always tell me about it, because he went to Kennedy’s conventions. And I don’t really know how it works. I knew a guy one time that was on a school board in another state that wound that he was all he was Democrat was all greased up about going when Obama was running. This is 20 years ago, whenever it was that he went and did the convention and held the sun and TV and rah, rah, rah, and shish, boom, bah. And Clinton’s gonna give, everybody gonna give a speech. I don’t know how you get to be that person. You got to know somebody, to know somebody, to whatever, and be involved in the party, and Robbie Leonard’s involved in the party, so not the party of power right now. If it were, there’d be a lot of people in prison, and we’ll talk about that. But how are you good to see you?

Robbie Leonard  02:18

You know, I thought when that lady was walking over holding the $20 bill. I thought she was giving that to me for gas money driving here from Towson. No, right, right outside. What’s North Point Boulevard? This is North Point Boulevard.

Nestor Aparicio  02:32

Yes. No, you’re done, dog. That’s North Point village, right there.

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Robbie Leonard  02:35

The Wawa, the Royal farms. Gas was 349, so I don’t know when this is gonna air, but let’s, let’s mark what’s today. It is March 6,

Nestor Aparicio  02:45

day after my dad’s birthday. March 5. Okay?

Robbie Leonard  02:47

March 6, 349, whenever you watch this video, you got a comment whether

Nestor Aparicio  02:53

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opening day, what’s it going to be on opening day? Is that what you’re

Robbie Leonard  02:57

What’s that march like? End of March, march 26

Nestor Aparicio  03:00

that’s three weeks from yesterday, 3021 day, 20 days.

Robbie Leonard  03:04

Let’s see if it’s over $5 a gallon. I mean, it’s serious, it’s gone up 35 cents this past week. Well, why do we bomb Venezuela? Well, I thought we had to take their oil and replenish our reserves, but, I mean, it’s 35 cents in the past week, I don’t need to get I have a plug in vehicle. It’s like plug in hybrid, right? So it it run. It starts on electric, and then when I run out of the electric juice, it crosses over into the gas. And all that I had 30 miles left of gas until I run out. And that can last me a while, right? Because I just drive back and forth from my house to my law office in Towson. And I thought, if I wait just three more days to fill up, it’s good cost, you know, 12 bucks. Yeah, so I filled up today, just to make sure, ahead of it, because it’s gone up 10 days, 1010 cents each day for the last three days. What the hell so anyway, that’s what, that’s all I’m

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Nestor Aparicio  03:59

thinking about, right? I’m going back to OPEC, you know, as a kid, and saying there’s cartels and the Mafia’s involved in the Epstein. It is an illuminating time to be alive at this age in so many because I’m going to do a whole hour in AI, and we love the Orioles and love the Ravens. And when I think about the transition I’ve made in life to talking about important things versus unimportant things, and talking about things like the Constitution, and talking about, I had quite a on last week. And, you know, just having international, I had a Canadian rock star on this week is tour in America, just talking about seeing it from another point of view. And last month it’s Venezuela. This month it’s Iran. Now he’s talking about Cuba, right? It was Greenland a couple. I mean, we’re talking about some really twisted shit. I mean, like that. I don’t, I don’t recognize this, no.

Robbie Leonard  04:49

And you know when, when you think of right now, you said we might talk about baseball, the World Baseball classics happening right now. The Olympics just happened. You got to think across the world. World, we are looking like the evil empire, right? You got to think of when, when other countries are choosing who they’re going to cheer for, they can’t be looking at the United States like what we grew up thinking the United States meant across the world, right? Like, you know, when you’re

Nestor Aparicio  05:17

running a cover operation for Russia, like, right? I mean, like, in a general sense, just that alone would have been a deal breaker at any point in my lifetime after cruise ship, you know, like, there would have been no point in 1982 when Ronald Reagan would have said, we’re now, like, friends with them. We’re on their side. We’re not on the Churchill side.

Robbie Leonard  05:36

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Yeah. I mean, when you when you grow up and you’re in school, like hearing about World War Two and World War One, and America comes in and saves the world and Europe and all that, like, just don’t always feel like we’re on the right side anymore.

Nestor Aparicio  05:50

I don’t know. Well, we all have that going on, but you are in a unique position politically. And by the way, Robbie Leonard’s my guest to change that, so I want to give you the floor barrister to once again. And every time I have you on, or I have Todd Schuler, who, right? Who was elected? Guy, great guy, yeah. I mean Johnny, whoever. By the way, I’m having David Marks on on Tuesday over Missoni. So, I mean, I’m, I’m not one side of the political aisle. I’ll talk to people that don’t bring me nonsense. You bring me puja. I got no time for that. I got no I got no time for lies. I let John Harbaugh know that, my dear John Harbaugh, letter today, but for me, you sit in a unique position, which is one of the reasons I dragged it down to Dundalk, which used to be all democratic. It’s not anymore. And I’m sure Johnny Ray is gonna walk in there at any minute, because I always see him down here. But what is your role and and I’ve talked to you before west side of the county, nor we’ve been all over the river Essex. We’ve been all over the place. This thing you do that’s amazing, where you front your own bill, foot, your own way, just to be involved in the Democratic Party at a level where you may one day have some influence as to whether Hillary Clinton usurps the ticket or Kamala Harris, you know, like, literally, the primary thing as a Democrat. I’m pissed about that, and Republicans like to shoot at me on social media about that, but I think to myself, all right, what is the front line of defense? How do politicians get elected, other than Elon Musk giving them $80 million at the end to push an election. But as you see it, what is the pathway for a Gavin Newsom or Wes Moore, or whatever it’s going to be next time around? What you’re going to be involved in that? Because you’re invested in that. And I don’t know many people that are outside of having you know Johnny, Johnny, oh, here, or some political operative. I don’t know exactly what you even consider yourself, but your delegate is what you are, right? Is that the word

Robbie Leonard  07:47

Almost, almost. I’m a committee member. I’m a committee member. I’m sorry, when it comes time for the presidential convention, I am also a delegate to the convention. Okay, so I’m like, what they used to call a super delegate member. I’m a delegate to the convention, but I’m a DNC committee person all four years now, in Maryland, we have our primary election June 23 I just looked that up to make sure

Nestor Aparicio  08:12

that’s rocking here. First eight or 10 minutes really needs to be score last rock. So people watching that on video, people

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Robbie Leonard  08:18

watching on video. When you go vote on June 23 you’re all going to have a plan on who you’re going to vote for. You know your Baltimore county executive or your state senator or something on the primary ballot, you also choose which candidate is running for Central Committee. There’s a Republican Central Committee, there’s a democratic Central Committee. And wherever you live, if you’re in the city or the county, there’s a central committee. Those are the people that make up your local party. Okay, your central committee people serve on the local County Central Committee. Then all of the County Central Committee members, they all get together, that’s the delegation. Is that? What that would be called, their committee? Yeah, they when you all get together and go out to the thing, when they all get together in Maryland, that’s the state party. There’s all of the center committee members from each county. They get together, they vote for their state party leadership. They they are also the people that vote for who is going to represent Maryland on a Democratic National Committee. So those, those center committee members that you’re voting on when June 23 to represent Baltimore County. They’re the people that voted for me to be on the DNC to represent Maryland.

Nestor Aparicio  09:26

Okay, you have gone through this before. Don’t short shrift me, barrister here now, like you have to pay your own way. Yeah, it’s everything’s one month, it’s Salt Lake City. The next month it’s you’re all over the place.

Robbie Leonard  09:38

We’re going to New Orleans in April. All right, I’m excited about it.

Nestor Aparicio  09:43

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All right, New Orleans is wet and there’s delicious food. It won’t be too humid that time of year. So Jazz Fest,

Robbie Leonard  09:49

I gotta look at when Jazz Fest is, because, you know, we got to make it a party here.

Nestor Aparicio  09:53

Did you go to the Super Bowl in New Orleans? I did not. Okay. Well, you are, like, a real sports fan, though. I mean, the first. Time I met you, you’re running for office, I had you on a zoom call, and you were wearing a free the bird shirt, as I remember it. So you are an OG.

Robbie Leonard  10:07

I am I’m an OG. Nestor fan Oh, stop. Robbie Leonard,

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Nestor Aparicio  10:11

is here. You have to put you already on a show. You don’t have to kiss my ass to come back, please.

Robbie Leonard  10:16

Yeah, but I haven’t got my crab cake yet. So,

Nestor Aparicio  10:20

you know, art modell, back in the day, he pulled me into his office right when the team came to town, and he looked at me and he said, I’ve written about this and I’ve talked about it, young man, always be honest. Always be fair with me. If all you ever do is kiss my ass, they’ll never believe a word you say. So there’s my credibility in all of this. How do you see this, like when you’re talking about it over coffee, which is basically what this is, your cost is over crab cake or a bowl of soup, when you have to explain this to children, when you have to explain this to people who might not be as familiar with the law as you are being a lawyer, or elections as you are, having been an almost elected official, right like that, you did the work, and that’s one of the reasons that I like to sweat equity. Even having you on I don’t know that I would agree with everything that you believe politically, one way or another, on things like death penalty or this or that, but let’s just start with like the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, the checks and balances the Schoolhouse Rock stuff, it makes my head explode. And when I put other people on who spent a lifetime in medicine that are being called quacks, or a lifetime in law that look at what Pam Bondi is doing, or a lifetime in service with the FBI or FEMA or Social Security or NSA to see what’s going on here. I don’t even know how to express it, and I know we need to talk about it, and that’s why I talk about it, and that’s why when I put send Baron pictures up off of 83 that’s not even me with a message. That’s me amplifying a message that needs to be heard when CBS is being run by people that are going to censor 60 minutes,

Robbie Leonard  12:09

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yeah, well, you know, I I listen to the news in the car when I drive, I’ve got serious satellite radio. I usually listen to Bloomberg Radio. And I have the kids in the car a lot, you know, and they have, they’re exposed to it. So when you ask, like, how do I explain it to kids? I do because my kids ask me questions. You know, when they hear kids, they are nine and seven, man, that is the age. That is the question asking age, right? God, sometimes I’m like, Can I listen to the news

Nestor Aparicio  12:36

text with them? Or can you actually speak to them? They are kind of almost texting. They have these gizmo watches where they can text from their watch, now, from their watch. Yeah, so, so, but the watch is there, that’s there seven and they’re nine, yeah. When I was nine, I had to do real math at Colgate Elementary, and then when I was about 11, Radio Shack had the watches with the calculator, right? Went to hell. You know what I mean by eighth, ninth grade, you could, you could cheat, yeah. Now we got AI. I’m gonna do a whole segment on that, but I don’t, I don’t even know how to relate to a seven or nine year old about the world, about love, about the way things are. Like, trying to explain School House Rock to School House. Yeah?

Robbie Leonard  13:19

I mean, they always, they always have questions. Like, you know, a couple years ago, they were asking me about Russia and Ukraine, because they would hear that all the time on the news. Now we’re hearing the Iran war. You know, they obviously want to hear about war. Yesterday, my son made me turn off the news because we were listening about Kristi Noem being fired, and they were talking about how she killed her dog. And my son’s like, I don’t want to hear about someone who shot a dog. Why did

Nestor Aparicio  13:43

she do that? Christine gnomes traumatized your

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Robbie Leonard  13:46

kid, and she traumatized my kid. I had to turn off the news because he’s hearing about her so but you got to talk about, I mean, there’s a lot to talk about right now. Things are crazy, and we got to talk to each other. One thing that you and I have talked about before is, yeah, you like people on both sides of the aisle. You bring David Marks on we all have to talk to each other. We got to talk about the news.

Nestor Aparicio  14:06

Well, if you’re not, you’re empowering the richest people, because they care a lot. And I think that’s the thing that I have, if I’ve learned anything through this, it’s that the money, the power Citizens United there to me, there’s some real Adam and Eve aorta issues. I did a long piece with a wonderful guy named Dr Terry Mulligan, who has a film coming out on the 19th at the senator, which is involves health care and the cost of health care, and who’s benefiting from health care and how it’s just completely going in the wrong direction, and has been for so long that we just find it acceptable. And at the heart of this, we have a criminal running the country like he was a criminal when he was elected. And if there’s nothing we should not have gathered over the last 14 months, is the body. Homeless pit of criminality that when you’re protecting yourself and you’re surrounded by others who will protect you, this really is how every awful thing in history has ever happened, which is Christy Nome had to keep her job.

Robbie Leonard  15:17

Bondi, so this all ties together. Okay, go ahead, John, also the senator in Georgia. He gave a speech a month or so ago, and he was calling them the Epstein class, right? The billionaires, the the elite, the people that really run this world. They’re in the Epstein class, the people that are in the Epstein files. You know Elon Musk, who’s begging to be invited to go there. Howard lutnik, Bill Clinton, Bill Gates, Democrats and Republicans are all in the Epstein

Nestor Aparicio  15:50

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Deepak Chopra, the Deepak Chopra, yeah. I mean, right, like, so, I mean, if I’m going to roll deep me rolling Deepak Chopra over the hill is would be akin to anybody with a Trump’s truck rolling, you know, like, or somehow the Trump people think that I have a Clinton shrine. You know what? I mean, I don’t if he’s, if he’s a pedophile, imprison him, yeah, but no problem

Robbie Leonard  16:17

with that. Look, it just shows you more that in the United States of America, we’ve let everyone get away, right? We watched how people and other countries are being held accountable for their connections to Jeffrey Epstein and being on that island and doing what they loyal family. Yeah, but we’re holding no one accountable here in the United States, because we are so overrun by the billionaire class, the Epstein class, that make all of the decisions for us. They run our you know, our politics, they run our corporations. They run the banks. They run the banks. These are issues that really should bring all of us together. They it should bring Democrats and Republicans. You know, it, it brings some of the Republicans together. Like corruption

Nestor Aparicio  16:57

is what overturns governments right, literally, like corruption is the point where the dam breaks right, literally, and the Berlin Wall falls.

Robbie Leonard  17:07

And it may have been the exposure of Christie gnomes corruption just this past week that got her thrown out. It might have been even too much for Donald Trump when they realized that both sides of the aisle were seeing that she was giving $200 million of taxpayer money to her friends that just started a business eight days before they said, hey, we’ll just set up a corporation. You give us a couple 100 million dollars for us to film a commercial for you. You know melania’s

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Nestor Aparicio  17:34

movie, go to jail for that. Melania’s movie, by the way, was funded by Tony F and Robbins, who, for 30 years, I have stood here and sold his integrity. Maybe, maybe I haven’t sold his integrity. I’ve sold the effect of his work and information and education on my life and on the success that I’ve had in any way and being straight thinking to think that he’s crooked really, like, that would be the picture on the wall that I would rip off. Well, her

Robbie Leonard  18:06

me, her movie cost $40 million to make one commercial by Christine cost $200 million and once some Republicans got a hold of that, you know, they’re like, this is too much, right? And how Mace was in on her and her luxury jet that she, you know, made with the whole bedroom in it, and they were showing the pictures of it like that became too much, even for Donald Trump, because it’s the people like he’s realizing it’s the people who are seeing this shit and they’re done with it. You know, there are some people like that I would never agree with on so many other issues, Marjorie Taylor, green Massey from Kentucky. They’re like, this is bullshit. This corruption. Bobert. Bobert, right, it’s too much. Kennedy from Louisiana. He got in on it. He got he got in on it. It takes us to come together on these issues. That’s why I appreciate ro Khanna and Massey coming together on these Epstein issues, on these corruption issues. You know, Johnny

Nestor Aparicio  19:05

always been coming together with a Utah he’s been taught, like, just about the courts and about like, I think at every level. I mean, it’s, I don’t think there’s anything going well. I don’t know. There’s not one thing here that I can look at and say that this could not have been predicted and avoided, quite frankly, and avoided. But the Citizens United thing as that sits for money in our government, and as I look back on 2016 and the Russian involvement, the international involvement social media, before people even thought of a guardrail that there could be a front out of Russia and troll farms running conservative Patriot news where, you know, 500,000 followers are following basically Russian advice on how to involve the American government. Literally that went to Cambridge Analytica. All of that that went on has been rolled under. The January 6 has been rolled under, and now these criminals are either joining ice or going back to jail for being criminals. And I we’re watching two different channels as humans, left and right, red and blue, right? Yeah, that really is the issue. That message is not, clearly not getting through in my world to people that I like respect, who voted for Reagan, who voted for Bush one, Bush two. I voted for Ehrlich. You know what I mean? I’m not. I’m not that guy.

Robbie Leonard  20:36

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Ehrlich has gone way out. He’s gone way right. If you follow Bob Erlich on social media, he is so Maga It’s wild.

Nestor Aparicio  20:45

My wife and I ran into him at Christmas, the first time around Dan at the casino, and we were going to see Michael Bolton. Michael’s sick now. Don’t, don’t be thinking bad things about Michael Bolton. Wouldn’t time love and tenderness. He’s a nice man. What’s your favorite Michael Bolton song, but I lied. So you’re going to see Michael. I loved you, but I lied. I pulled that out. Yeah. So anyway, I approached him in the casino, dude. He used to come to my studio. He came to our wedding. He proclaimed our wedding day, Nestor and Jen Day in the State of Maryland, and showed up at our well because I was the Dundalk Democrat that brought him into the studio and said bad things about Kathleen Kennedy Townsend because I thought she was not a great candidate. And I met her several times, and I wasn’t turned on, so I supported him fervently in my studio. I went to Republican events. I’ve never was one of them in any like, I never thought of myself as, like, I’ve been a Democrat from the beginning. But I liked Bob. I believed in Bob. I pimp for Bob. Bob had me down to the state house with my wife for a dinner where there were a lot of it was a Sports Night. Brooks was there. Tom Matty was there. Art Donovan, you know, it was like it was a Sports Night at the governor’s mansion. Kendall was there, showing me around, showing me that my book was on Bob’s dace in the you know, like all this as kiss and that I was unfamiliar with, with politics 25 years ago, when I didn’t know better. And now I ran into him and I, and this was after Trump one was well in progress, you know, like, covid era, kind of bad things. And I remember running into him. I’m like, Dude, I’m completely ashamed of my involvement with you. I have a picture with Jared from Subway, and I’m ashamed, literally, you know what I mean? Yeah, I have a picture with Darren sharper, you know what I mean, like, Bill Cosby came on this radio station one time. You know what I mean, like, yeah. So I’m just putting that with where I feel about having laid out for Bob Ehrlich 25 years ago, that where this has gone. You’re saying, like, just did a general set, if Ehrlich would have sat in my radio station, or come to the barn, or come to my wedding and proclaimed that he was going to take that he was going to look the other way on an insurrection, look the other way on illegal bombs. Look the other way on pedophiles, pedophile files. Sorry about that. Yeah, but he’s gone. He’s gone also. I just, I can’t get my arms around that for friends of mine, yeah, anyone that can’t explain it to me, because it’s, it can’t be explained, yeah, not to somebody who’s

Robbie Leonard  23:30

watching it. You’ve given examples of times that you’ve crossed the aisle and you’ve supported people in the other party, right? And, and a lot of people in the state of Maryland have done that before, you know, obviously larry hogan had been elected, early had been elected. And that’s people who are going back

Nestor Aparicio  23:46

there was a minute I supported Ross Perot, okay? I mean, I’ve done things in my life,

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Robbie Leonard  23:50

you know, well, well, like here, here, where we’re sitting right now, used to be a Democratic stronghold, right?

Nestor Aparicio  23:56

Unbelievably so. And as I stare at Mr. Costas, his pictures right there, you can look right at him. Yeah, you know, Ted venetoulis in here, just all of that, right?

Robbie Leonard  24:03

Literally. And people have obviously moved Republican. They moved to the Republican Party because they felt like the Democrats aren’t fighting for them. This is a working class area. I think that we’re in an opportunity right now to demonstrate the Democrats are fighting for working class people. And look, there’s a lot of different kinds of Democrats, and I think we’re wrestling right now within the party of which direction we’re going in, and we have to start electing candidates in the primary who are fighting for the working class, who are not beholden to that Epstein class. They’re not beholden to the billionaires. You know, right now, there’s so much money coming in through AI, through crypto, they’re, they’re putting money into the elections here in Maryland, you know, we have, in some areas that have public finance campaigns. In Baltimore County, you can opt in for a public finance campaign where Pat Young did that, right? Pat young for county executive. He’s been on the show we. Got a bunch for Baltimore County Council, like Ruben, Amaya, Sean, McIntosh, Makita, Scott,

Nestor Aparicio  25:06

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Zach Blanchard, do that in the city. Maybe, does that sound right, or am I wrong? He may have somebody in the city. I’ve talked, I’ve just talked to so many people, yeah, but that’s a different kind of election, like I spent time in Canada, had Rick Emmett from triumph on talking about American Canada and Getty Lee and his tour and all that good spend and the Blue Jays. But I spent time in Canada during an election season, seeing Pearl Jam. I went up to Quebec. So I drove all through Quebec, down south, whatever the roads would be. We got off in every town that ever had a minor league hockey player that I covered because I knew all those Laval, all these little towns, trois rivers, how you say that in French, Montreal and Ottawa, we drove through back towns and in those towns in Canada during the election season, everywhere we drove like when you go through the city, you see those signs that are about to become The Oriole signs in the city. They’re like tents that that are on the side of Pratt Street, right everywhere in Canada. Had those we canceled, you would have been on one of them when you ran for office, and apparently it’s funded. I we looked it up, and I don’t want to explain for the Canadian government, I’ll bring Eddie Lee on to do that later on. But in Canada, that’s like, there are elections. You can’t advertise. This is the advertising. It’s state run advertising that equals out the advertising. And you know what that does? It says, oh, Robbie’s running. I wonder what he’s saying. I’ll go to his website. Oh, right. Oh, there’s a debate, there’s a town hall, there’s a there’s an email, there’s a what do you stand for? There’s a what my wife told me I needed to have when I was going to run for mayor, she kept saying to me, you got to have a platform. You could have a platform. I’m like, Donald Trump’s, the President doesn’t have a platform. Yeah, you have a platform. So I would say, seeing that in Canada and seeing the money sucked out of it, that’s kind of sort of the intent of what this money is, right? Yeah.

Robbie Leonard  27:03

So they can only take, like, just here in Baltimore County, they can only take no more than $250 from an individual. They have to raise from 150 people in the county and a total of $15,000 to qualify for, like public matters.

Nestor Aparicio  27:20

So they need to get some they need to get a couple 100 people to give a couple of $100 correct, to say you’re serious, yeah. And then then there’s a matching fund to that, yes.

Robbie Leonard  27:30

So like, if 1000 people decide to run and they raise no money, then we’re not just paying for their entire campaign. You have to show that, hey, I got 150 people here that believe in me, that gave me a couple bucks, help me out, right? And 150 is that’s, that’s a lot, that’s a lot of people to ask for money, and it’s got a total 15,000 and then you’re eligible for that match. You can keep raising, you know, on top of that, more than that, but it helps you get your message out. But, you know, I think that’s where we need to go, where, instead of just calling up, you know, the super rich guy or the company, saying, Can you write me a check for 6000 bucks, right? And PAC money, you can’t take PAC money, so political action committees. So I think, I just think that’s where the Democratic Party should be going. And I think that’s where both parties, there are actually no Republicans who are opting into the campaign finance system, the public campaign finance in Baltimore County, you know, I think they were serious for fighting for working class people. They would, but it’s just something that I think we should educate our citizens in, that, you know, instead of just going to the rich people who are going to tell us, you know, how to vote and what to do. Let’s have working class people do that. Well, when

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Nestor Aparicio  28:45

I was considering running and Mueller told me I was going to have to sit in the basement, call people and ask for 10 to 20 and $50,000 from people. I said, I do that for a living every day here. And I’m thankful for, you know, foreign and Derma and I’m thankful for GBMC, and I’m certainly, you know, for all my marijuana my sponsors to keep me going, but I don’t feel beholden to have to make apologies for what the lottery does, or GBMC, or to say the crab cakes are good here at Costas when they’re not like because there’s a reason I’m at Costas instead of with the the fu people on the other side of Dundalk. You know, that’s, you know, and I do like American crab meat myself, although Venezuelans, okay, too. So I’m good with that, because I’m Venezuela it’s also the same creature, you know? Yeah, I was gonna say ornithology, but it’s baseball season. Robbie Leonard’s my guest. What do you always say about you? Attorney?

Robbie Leonard  29:32

What attorney? Yeah, I got a law practice. Leonard and mcclat Law Group, yeah, we do all kinds of stuff. We do criminal defense, we do personal injury, we do child sex abuse cases, we do kind of everything. We’re trial lawyers that are, you know, happy to tell

Nestor Aparicio  29:48

your story. The ice thing that if ice were to come in here right now, grab me, throw me in a van and roll me out like if I was standing around the Home Depot up on Eastern Avenue right now with my air out, yeah, and I let it go a little bit. More now, like, god bless Manuel. See, no what? My kid lives two miles from here, and he says it’s Anne Frank in his neighborhood.

Robbie Leonard  30:13

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Yeah, you know, look, I’m in Towson, and I don’t see it at all, you know. Just on social media, I’ll see people sharing videos from this side of town, you know, in Dundalk,

Nestor Aparicio  30:23

where, but you’re a legal guy. If they did that to me, if I call you, what happens, dude?

Robbie Leonard  30:27

See, I’m a legal guy, but other American citizens, but I’m also a wrestling coach. So I don’t know if I would be using like, pen and paper to stop them, or if I’d be like, putting somebody in a headlock, you know, I’m not sure yet. I haven’t had to encounter the situation. But if I have gone, I know, I know, I’m nervous on

Nestor Aparicio  30:50

even bigger than the the the drama queen from South Dakota. I mean, they brought a guy in who likes to beat people up. So yeah, and and is uneducated. That’s even that makes

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Robbie Leonard  31:01

him back. They got an MMA fighter with no degree, you know, running the border. Now, running the border. So I don’t know, I guess, I guess they’re, they’re looking at, you know, fighting people more than protecting your constitutional rights. You know,

Nestor Aparicio  31:14

Department of War. Department of War. Well, now they’re

Robbie Leonard  31:18

kind of going back to Department of Defense. They don’t like to say Department of War so much anymore, because they’re not sure if we’re in a

Nestor Aparicio  31:24

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department of Nobel Prize. You ran for office? Well, I wanted to ask you this. I was gonna hijack you and give you a gotcha question. You ran for office at one point, What got into you? Like, you know what I mean, like, when to pull the trigger on doing that, and why? Why did you want to run? You wanted to affect change in the county, obviously, right? Yeah.

Robbie Leonard  31:46

And you damn near one, yeah, a couple times I got 49% two elections in a row. Now, because I feel like, if you’re gonna 49% Can you believe that? Yeah. But before I go on the filing deadline to run for office was the end of February, and boy, was my wife so happy when we passed that deadline was not on a ballot. She was like, she could do anything to stop you. She she couldn’t stop me the last couple times, but this time, you know, she wasn’t gonna believe me. If I my wife

Nestor Aparicio  32:15

was not gonna stop me. I don’t know that she would have been. She wouldn’t have been as enthusiastic, let’s say, as Kendall Ehrlich was about her husband. So I would just say, for me, I think that’s the shame of the whole damn thing, to be honest with you. And I felt that way in talking to Dr Mulligan about the practice of medicine, right? Like if you’re going in to be a doctor, and the whole system is going to be screwed up, and you’re going to get sued and insurance, and it’s already like the hardest job in the world, trying to be a doctor and keep people alive, like literally 24 hours a day, that if the government’s going to fight with you, and the insurance companies are going to fight with you and the patient, everybody’s going to I think same way about Teachers not compensate. I feel that way about cops, not like we can go on and on and on and on. But let’s start at the top of elected officials that getting good humans. And I felt like that was my lane in 2020 my lane was not political expertise or ego. My Lane was a city’s falling apart. Can we just get someone honest? Who cares? Who could maybe try to bring some people together? Yeah, that’s literally, was my campaign togetherness, seems. Mike, yeah, but, you know, but

Robbie Leonard  33:30

look, we need more people like you, or I hate to say we need more who you like me. We need more people like I

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Nestor Aparicio  33:34

wasn’t qualified, but I was qualified, at least to be honest and at least to hear information, and at least to try to bring good humans in and be sane about how we’re solving these we need,

Robbie Leonard  33:47

yeah, but we need more people like you who say, You know what, I should just do it. You know, it’s like, Hey, I think there’s something wrong, and I want to fix it, and I want to fix it. Why not me? Right? Because, you know, when we get close to that filing deadline, you know, we can see online, we can, we can keep refreshing the Board of Elections website to see has anyone filed. And I’ll see, you know, in social media groups, people talking like, hey, no one has filed this. We need someone to run for this. Someone’s got to run for this. And everyone in their head is thinking like, God, I should do it, you know. But they’re afraid it’s a daunting challenge. You know, they they think, how am I going to raise the money to be able to do it? How am I going to have the time to go?

Nestor Aparicio  34:26

That’s why I have so much respect for anybody who runs, you know, I’m just

Robbie Leonard  34:29

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crazy, because I’m insane. So, you know, it takes a little bit of craziness, but we need more people to step in the arena to do it. We can’t just expect, you know, some expert, or there’s got to be a special kind of person to be in office, or they have to be anointed by someone. We just have to have average people step up to run.

Nestor Aparicio  34:53

That’s where I was. I just decided one night, I said to my wife, I’m thinking, I’m losing my mind. I think I want to do this once in my life. I think I. I might be able to get elected. You know, I didn’t, but I’m done. I have no don’t come to me. Don’t offer me a check. Don’t try to talk me into it. I’m here doing what I do best, which is try to talk about things. Robbie Leonard’s here. It’s all brought to you by the Maryland lottery. I have Harlem Globetrotter scratch offs. We’ve already had. I had a lady at this table waving a $20 bill with me. Robbie saw it. I got witnesses. I got witnesses. Barrister, and it’s all brought to you by our friends at GBMC. It’s the Maryland crab cake tour. We’re putting together a bunch of baseball stuff. I’m doing some AI stuff. Robbie’s a member of the Democratic National Committee. Is that is correct. Tell everyone how they can get involved in the American process, other than voting. If they want to reach out to you, if they’re pissed at you because they’re a Republican and want to become a Democrat if they’re mad at you because Kamala Harris and Hillary Clinton didn’t win, whatever it is. But you will, I know this, you will at least get back to people and try to educate them and say, hey, I want to make a difference. You just gave me a little speech. But making a difference you’re one of those guys that Teddy Roosevelt would say, you’re in the ring. You’re in the ring, right? Literally, if

Robbie Leonard  36:02

you want to shoot me an email. Robbie R, A, B, B, I, E, at, L, M, law, GRP. Calm, I’m gonna give you my cell phone number, 410-916-5315, if you ever want to run for office and get a cup of coffee and talk about what that’s like, give me a call. Shoot me an email.

Nestor Aparicio  36:17

You know, I did that. Elizabeth Embry had a cup of coffee with me when I was gonna write, some people were very nice and giving me Ed hail sat with me when I was gonna run. I mean, I talked to Ted venitulas. It was my neighbor. He was a consulate. He so was Bill Cole, by the way, cold roofing and Gordian energy. He sponsors our WNS detect service that is brought to you by Cole roofing and Gordian energy. Luke’s gonna be here a little later on. We’re gonna do some baseball. Alan’s gonna do some baseball, my dear friend and my he’s my AI constantly. 80 Dennis o’donovans here for profit. COMM, profit. Calm, excuse me, and he’s created a whole AI thing. Are you

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Robbie Leonard  36:56

AI and where are you? You’re I don’t want to, like, get in with your next guest, but I’m really Anti A

Nestor Aparicio  37:00

I bet you I’m so why? Oh, man, tell me how. Okay.

Robbie Leonard  37:06

I’ll just give you one example. Go ahead, too many people right now think that they could just go on AI and get the answers to everything. They go in chat GPT. My legal assistant just showed me. I had to ask her, I’m like, How do I use chat GPT? Because I wanted to recreate what the attorney on the other side in a case that I just had did okay, an attorney who, instead of using the resources that we attorneys have, we have, like legal research, things that you can pay for right, where you can look up this attorney cut some corners. She cut some corners, like you can look I have something called Westlaw. There’s other companies like LexisNexis, where I can research, yeah, I can research statutes. You know the laws? I can research case law, like court opinions, right? And that’s what we write our briefs to the judge, like, here’s what happened in another case that’s similar to this. So you should roll this way. I could never be a lawyer. Well, this lawyer, and so many lawyers are doing this nowadays, and a lot of people who think that they don’t need a lawyer, they’re they’re representing themselves. And they go in chat GPT, and they type questions, well, AI, chat GPT, whatever the other ones are. They hallucinate cases. They will give you wrong answers with made up cases, like made up prior court decisions. We got to tell it not to do that. Listen, all I know is that I had an attorney that I was going against who submitted a brief with fake cases to the court, and she must have thought I was too lazy to look up the cases she cited. And I called her out on it, and she doubled down and tripled down. And the judge is like, ma’am, Mr. Leonard says, you’re using AI in fake cases. And I got to agree. I looked up your cases, I couldn’t find them. And she’s like, Oh no, they’re real. I did this is what we’re bonding. We’re encountering this in the legal system. Lawyers are cutting corners, making stupid decisions, being lazy. Don’t do it. Hire a real lawyer who’s going to use real law. That’s just one AI problem that I have. I think it’s ruining the world. It’s ruining the environment. It’s making our energy prices too high.

Nestor Aparicio  39:15

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It’s here, though, right? And it would be like, like my dad living long enough to say, internet, I’m never gonna get on that the internet’s bad or bad things on the internet, you can see they’re dirty pictures on the internet, there’s bad word.

Robbie Leonard  39:26

I don’t know anything about that, right? So, you know,

Nestor Aparicio  39:31

let us embrace technology and change. I hear, listen, is greatly impacted positively my life over the last four months, and I believe how to drive it. I believe that i Are you against autonomous vehicles?

Robbie Leonard  39:47

I haven’t made a decision on that yet.

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Nestor Aparicio  39:48

I got in one now. I got in one. I went up to Philadelphia the other night to see a concert. I I called my wife in White Marsh. I said, I can’t wait for automatic vehicles. I want to be pampered like that. I just want to be driven you. Here.

Robbie Leonard  40:00

Here’s what we have to figure out as as a society, you know, right here we’re in this side of town, in Baltimore County and east side, you know, are they going to put data centers in here? You know, are they going to put ICE detention facilities? Are they going to put data centers? We’re talking about data centers in Baltimore county and maryland, all across the country. It’s to fuel the AI growth, right? That’s what it’s for. It’s because AI is driving up the energy needs so much we got all these data centers everywhere. People don’t want the data centers, but they want the benefits of AI. They want to go on Facebook and make Stupid Cartoon pictures of themselves that they made through AI or they want to, you know, type in chat. GPT, here are 10 things I have in my refrigerator. Give me a recipe, but then they don’t want the data centers that are required to fuel that AI growth. We have to figure that out in the smart government should be able to do that in the economy, you know, in Trump’s and Trump’s economy in the past year, you know, we just lost 90,000 jobs in February. We’ve lost jobs in this country in three out of the last five months. We’ve basically created no jobs in the past year.

Nestor Aparicio  41:17

AI is while destroying the infrastructure the government,

Robbie Leonard  41:20

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AI, is going to totally destroy the ability to have jobs, and we’re going to have to decide as a country, are we just going to tax the hell out of the trillionaires that are going to be owning everything so that they can just pay us universal universal basic income to not work and just keep consuming their products?

Nestor Aparicio  41:40

Push back and say, What are we just going to do pretend it’s not there. That’s silly too, I know,

Robbie Leonard  41:44

but we have to figure shit out.

Nestor Aparicio  41:48

Let’s get some smart people. Robbie Leonard is here. I’m let you go, man.

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Robbie Leonard  41:53

Yeah, you get me started on AI. I go down. I get on a dark place. I’m excited. I’m always you. I’m always excited. In March for the Orioles, somebody from the Orioles did call me about a week ago to try to sell me on

Nestor Aparicio  42:08

some like you bind your credit card out. No,

Robbie Leonard  42:11

I already have a plan, like a bird, a bird land membership, which I’ve used all your points last year. I have used them all, but they want me to get like the new, like a new, like club section, tickets? Yeah, maybe one, I told him, maybe one day. But I’m already sad. Your name’s not Angela. I’m sad that Jackson holiday starting out injured, that Jordan Westberg starting out injured. You know, in the past couple years, like our pitchers have all been injured starting I just want to start great. I just want to have a fair change. I just want to make just want to, I just want him, like, to be healthy. 23 and 17. Like, I’m nervous. I’m nervous, you know, I don’t want gunner to get hurt, like, playing against Taiwan or something right now. Like, I don’t want Dean Kramer hurt like, let’s start the season healthy. Let’s see what we can do. Let’s beat the

Nestor Aparicio  42:59

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happen though. You know, it’s already they’re not starting like, Come on, guys. Well, this is what I said about West Bergen holiday. That to me, that was 11 to 1200 quality, premium prime of their career. At bats. How many? And we’re replacing that with Blaze Alexander and whatever Kobe Mayo might be, the defense isn’t going to be very good. I believe in the starting pitching. I believe in the offense more than Luke does, but Luke and Alan will be here to argue about that a little bit later on. Get you. I thought you could wear your free the bird shirt for me today. But next time I get together, I will let you beat up. Ai, what else you want to do? What else you want to beat up? You liberal, listen, I want

Robbie Leonard  43:34

to talk about whatever the people want us to hear us talk about. You know, I should post on social media saying I’m going on Nestor, what do you guys want us to talk about? But there’s this.

Nestor Aparicio  43:42

Here’s my homework for you as Dennis is here, we’re going to talk about AI and how much I mean, it’s really, really, really helped my life dramatically. So I’ll make the case for that. If you want to win the fight, come up with the best ideas, right? Yeah. So to me, the Democrats like the same thing with weed, and the same thing with infrastructure. Show people the value, you know, of what government can do. And that’s how we did Tennessee Valley Authority. That’s how we built the banking system. That’s how we developed all kinds of technologies here in the last 250 years, other than prize fighting in a cage down at the White House on the Fourth of July, immigrants have done that, right? I mean, you know the American story, the next story is AI, when win that

Robbie Leonard  44:32

place, we just gotta, we just, we just got to figure out the regulations for it. That’s all. There you go. You know,

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Nestor Aparicio  44:38

let’s not call it a bad thing. It’s a great thing. It needs to be harnessed as a great thing by the government in the way it’s been harnessed by me.

Robbie Leonard  44:45

Okay, okay, well, I’m glad it’s working out for you. I always love success.

Nestor Aparicio  44:50

Agree with stuff. I don’t even agree with you. And listen, I don’t understand the the way left. Everybody I know who’s way and I’m pretty way left. I mean, I’m. I’ve been to Bernie Sanders like I am. I’m way left, but the way left people being anti AI, I don’t be anti. It be solution. It okay, because it’s not going away,

Robbie Leonard  45:10

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dude, I know it can’t go away. There’s too many people on Facebook all day sharing AI stuff.

Nestor Aparicio  45:19

It’s awful. All right, Robbie’s here. I’m here. We’re at the Costas, my pal, Dennis O’Donnell, that’s coming up next. Alan’s gonna be here. Loose gonna be here. We can talk baseball. It’s all brought to you by the Marilyn lottery. GBMC and foreign and darmer. Our comfort guys. I’ll be comfortable once I get a bowl of crab soup back from working. Cost us right after this. You.