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What does it mean for the defense of the Houston Texans that Lamar Jackson won’t be under center on Sunday in Baltimore? We asked longtime Texans voice Marc Vandermeer, who gives Nestor a primer on Houston football history and the leadership strengths of DeMeco Ryans and his defense, as Cooper Rush is set to start for the Ravens amidst an unprecedented flurry of injuries to a 1-3 team suddenly battling for relevance.

Nestor Aparicio and Marc Vandermeer discuss the upcoming Ravens-Texans game, highlighting the Ravens’ current struggles with injuries and a 1-3 record. Vandermeer notes the Texans’ defensive prowess, led by DC Lovie Smith, and mentions their recent losses to strong teams. He praises QB CJ Stroud’s potential but acknowledges the offensive line’s challenges. Aparicio compares Stroud to Lamar Jackson, noting Jackson’s resilience and the Ravens’ depleted defense. They also discuss DeAndre Hopkins’ Hall of Fame potential and the Texans’ need to avoid turnovers to win. The conversation ends with speculation on Lamar Jackson’s playing status and the Texans’ chances.

Houston Texans’ History and Current Concerns

  • Nestor Aparicio introduces the show, mentioning various activities and events, including a crab cake tour and a giveaway at Lexington Market.
  • Nestor expresses concerns about the Ravens’ current state, mentioning injuries to key players like Lamar Jackson, Ronnie Stanley, and Roquan Smith.
  • Marc Vandermeer, the voice of the Houston Texans, reassures Nestor that the Texans have never won in Baltimore and recounts past heartbreaking losses.
  • Marc highlights that the Texans have only beaten Baltimore twice, both at NRG Stadium, and expresses optimism about their chances despite the current record.

Texans’ Defense and Coaching

  • Marc Vandermeer praises the Texans’ defense, noting that they are statistically the best in points allowed and have lost to strong teams like Jacksonville, the Rams, and Tampa Bay.
  • He mentions that Damico Ryans has done a terrific job coaching the defense, and Matt Burke has taken over play-calling duties.
  • Marc also discusses the Texans’ special teams and offense, noting that the offense is a work in progress but has shown improvement in running and passing.
  • Nestor Aparicio and Marc discuss the challenges faced by quarterbacks like CJ Stroud and Lamar Jackson, comparing their styles and the impact of their supporting casts.

CJ Stroud’s Development and Lamar Jackson’s Performance

  • Nestor Aparicio talks about CJ Stroud’s ups and downs, noting that he has faced challenges with harassment and inconsistent running game support.
  • Marc Vandermeer recounts Stroud’s rookie season, his first interception, and the challenges faced by the offensive line.
  • They discuss the narrative around quarterbacks like Justin Herbert and Lamar Jackson, noting the fluctuating perceptions and expectations.
  • Marc defends Lamar Jackson’s performance, highlighting his ability to get the Ravens to the playoffs and his consistent production despite the team’s current struggles.

DeAndre Hopkins and Texans’ Leadership

  • Nestor Aparicio and Marc Vandermeer discuss DeAndre Hopkins’ talent and his impact on the Texans, noting his potential Hall of Fame status.
  • Marc shares personal anecdotes about Hopkins’ influence on the team and the fan base, comparing him to other great receivers like Andre Johnson.
  • They talk about the Texans’ leadership, particularly Damico Ryans, and his potential to coach both sides of the ball, drawing comparisons to coaches like Bill Parcells and Bill Belichick.
  • Marc expresses confidence in Ryans’ long-term success and his ability to lead the Texans to future success.

Texans’ Chances Against the Ravens

  • Nestor Aparicio and Marc Vandermeer discuss the Texans’ chances of winning against the Ravens, considering the Ravens’ current injury issues.
  • Marc emphasizes the importance of playing clean and avoiding turnovers, noting that the Texans need to score at least 24-27 points to win.
  • They discuss the potential impact of Lamar Jackson’s injury on the game and the importance of having a healthy Derrick Henry.
  • Marc concludes by expressing hope for the Texans’ success but acknowledges the challenges they face against the Ravens.

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Tue, Sep 30, 2025 12:54PM • 21:00

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Houston Texans, Baltimore Ravens, Lamar Jackson, DeAndre Hopkins, CJ Stroud, defensive performance, offensive line, injury concerns, playoff hopes, coaching stability, quarterback development, team record, game strategy, fan expectations, football history.

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Marc Vandermeer, Nestor Aparicio

Nestor Aparicio  00:01

Welcome home. We are W, N, S, T. Am 1570 Towson, Baltimore. We are, Baltimore, positive, positively, getting ready for football on Sunday, watching a lot of baseball this week as well. Luke is out in Owings Mills. He is. He’s our official doctor. We’re going to call him Dr Luke Jones this week for all in. We have our doctors at GBMC that will help us out as well. We are taking the Doctor of crab cakes out on Wednesday. We’re going to be at Faith Lee’s and Lexington market, giving away Raven scratch off on Wednesday, and then on Monday, doing the show in the crab cake tour at Costas and Timonium. I don’t know if it’s going to be a good news final or not. One in three has been a very, very bitter pills to swallow, as well as injuries to Lamar Jackson and Ronnie Stanley and roquan Smith and Nandi Mada BK and Marlon Humphrey, the Houston Texans are coming in, and we’re a little worried about the Cooper rush, and we’re a little worried about the pass rush and all sorts of rush. Mark Vandermeer is the voice of the Houston Texans has been for a long, long time. From the beginning, we always like having him on sometimes it’s playoff games, sometimes it’s regular season games, but rarely am I as concerned about a visit from the Houston Texans as I am this week. Mark. You guys picking a good time for that franchise to come up here and try to pick through the carcass of what’s left of the Ravens at this point?

Marc Vandermeer  01:15

Well, hey, I’m not eating the rat poison, okay, Nestor, because the Texans have never won in Baltimore, and I’m old enough to remember Kyle bowler hitting three consecutive passes to put the ravens and field goal range in 2005 during a very disappointing Texan season. But we’ve lost that way. We’ve lost the playoff game with Jacoby Jones, then a Texan fumbled a punt return, and it was just one of many turnovers in the game, four turnovers in all. And I know Jacoby became a great Raven, the late Jacoby Jones rip but there have been so many heartbreakers up there and so many decisive wins for the Ravens against the Texans. Now, the Texans have only beaten Baltimore twice, and they were both here at NRG stadium. So I’m not eating that rat poison. I’m not taking the bait. The Texans are one in three. If you had both of these teams at one in three on your bingo card, raise your hand. Nobody will. It is what it is. And I’m really looking forward to this one. I look forward to all games, but it’s an opportunity, and let’s see if the Texans can take advantage of it. But I know the ravens, whatever is out there for Baltimore is going to play well enough to win. Oh, come on,

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Nestor Aparicio  02:20

be a homer and pretend you’re going to come in and win. And tell me how the Texans are going to win. Tell me what’s good about the Texans at this point, other than the fact that they’re healthier than the Ravens by a

Marc Vandermeer  02:28

lot. Well, this, this defense, I think, is the best in the league, among the best anyway, right? Right now, statistically, points allowed, they’re the best in the league. And the teams they’ve lost to, their one in three, the teams they’ve lost two are all three. And what right? Jacksonville’s number one in turnover margin. They lost to them. They lost to the Rams on opening day out there. They held them to 14 Points, but only scored nine. And Tampa Bay Monday Night Football. A lot of people saw that. One had a chance to stop Baker Mayfield on fourth and 10 couldn’t do it. He scrambled. He eventually drove downfield. Got a touchdown. And you know, that was on the defense. But I think all together, the defense is the thing to hang your hat on here in Houston. Damico Ryan has done a terrific job coaching that side of the football. Matt Burke, the defensive coordinator. He actually turned over play calling duties to Burke in the last game. That was cool. So that’s good. I think special teams are pretty good that one bad game, but pretty good overall, and the offense is a work in progress. Nick Kelly’s the offensive coordinator. They’ve been developing it. They’ve been running the ball a little bit better. They’ve been passing a little bit better as the weeks have gone on. But, man, this was like a breakout game for them to score three touchdowns against a bad Tennessee Titans team. It was something. They had to do it. They did it. They had 3/4 quarter scores that was good. Let’s see if they can carry that momentum further into Baltimore.

Nestor Aparicio  03:45

Obviously, Lamar has been transcended for the whole league, and the way the games played, and the running the ball and all that we saw CJ Stroud coming a couple years ago and do some of the things. And I think we saw some of that from Kyler Murray in Arizona and other places where more diminutive quarterbacks that run different than like a Josh Allen will run you over and give you stiff arm on the way through, but Stroud was so good in the beginning, and it felt like, oh, they A Star Is Born, and then you find out how difficult it is, and Lamar is taking these steps to become a better passer. They’ve done things to create protection and drafting better and zay flowers and your guy D hop and you’re running around this year. But for Stroud, it’s been, it hasn’t been as linear, right? It’s been, it’s been up, down, choppy, and more than that, I felt like last year, and when he’s not having success, the amount of harassment he was taking, and the fact that the running game hasn’t been consistent, and the scope position players aren’t like, let’s say, what Lamar has. Where is CJ Stroud in this up and down, sort of trying to get to the thought where they have a Super Bowl caliber quarterback. He’s a good quarterback. I don’t know that I would trade him for Lamar at this point, or trade Lamar for him, I should say. But in the I think he’s good enough. But I also think. Like the pieces around them. And I saw all of that the first year. The it’s it’s never a straight line, right? And it really is about the other 10 guys you surround him with.

Marc Vandermeer  05:09

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It is the look the rookie season was so good. It was historically good, and it took him forever to throw his first interception. And he was so good that his first interception was turned right back over to them on the same play, like he’s that magical. I mean, everything seemed to be going right, yet you look at the record, they were kind of slogging along at 500 for a lot of the season, and then going into the final week, had to beat the Colts to make the playoffs. And they did. They finished 10 and seven. But in relevant, the Stroud himself, that was a great year. Last year, the pass protection broke down a bit. Everybody had tape. Everybody went after him, and I think the offensive line really struggled. And then you look at this year, the offensive line has been rebuilt, and they drafted Tay or seri to play left tackle. They brought in cam Robinson, but they just traded him. They have some new pieces up front, new offensive coordinator, and it’s a work in progress. We’re looking at it in real time. The narrative changes, not week to week necessarily, but after the first three weeks, you know, Stroud can do it. It’s in there. You’ve seen it, you’ve seen the accuracy, you’ve seen the deep ball throwing, you’ve seen the ball placement, all of that great stuff. And he is running it more. Nestor, I think that’s a really big key. You know, we look at Patrick mahomes, maybe the greatest quarterback in the league. I think he is. You notice how much he runs. He does run. It’s selective, but he does do it, and it’s very effective to be able to take off and get you that fresh set of downs when all hope is lost, apparently on a third and long or whatever the case is. So I like what I see out of CJ Stroud, I think that the last game was, was a good one for him to have two touchdown passes his highest quarterback rating since the finale of his rookie season. So maybe they’re headed in the right direction here. But you know how these narratives are? You know they kind of ebb and flow. And you know, one week, Justin Herbert’s going to the Super Bowl. The next week, I don’t know, he just lost to the Giants and through two picks. It’s strange, and I’m sure Lamar, look, I was reading some of the tweets about Lamar. And look, tweet reading is probably a hobby we should all drop. But I was reading some of those tweets during the Kansas City Chiefs game because we were done, and I’m thinking they’re killing Lamar over here. I’ll take them. I mean, look, I love CJ. But you know, the point is this, Lamar Jackson. Are you kidding me? He gives you a chance every year to get to the Super Bowl. Now I know he hasn’t done it yet, but to have that opportunity to have that op going into a season, look how many teams have no shot, no shot to go. They should be happy with Lamar Jackson. And look at the numbers. Last year, you get 40 plus Touchdown, touchdown passes, 4000 yards. Derrick Henry going nuts, and I know they haven’t done that yet this year, but look at the teams they’ve lost to that. You know, these are really good teams. So it’s a long season. I’m sure the ravens are going to get it together. I just hope it’s not Sunday.

Nestor Aparicio  07:49

Look, if I talk to you a month ago, like I did, John McClane before the season began, and it’s like, you know, Lamar ravens favorite. You know, look at the gambling numbers. Look at anything. Look at the division they’re in. Joe burrows hurt. You know, all of these positive things, and yet you look up at one and three and see the team they’re going to put on the field this week, but let alone the the team they’re gonna have to feel defensively most of the rest of the year, given what’s happened the matter BK, where they are with roquan, the aging issues of Marlon, Humphrey, Nate Wiggins, got hurt last last week, so they’re really playing with a depleted roster, and it speaks to the coaching. I mean, John Harbaugh’s on the hot seat Zach or is on the hot seat defensively here, I don’t feel like you have that in Houston. And I feel like from the minute Tamika Ryans was hired there, I feel it’s going to be a long time before they hire another coach there. I feel like he’s got enough slack and enough goodwill built up in the community, not just the media, but with the with the real fans and the kind of coach he’s been on the field thus far. I would think you remember the day you met Damico Ryan’s when he came in as a second round pick in those six right?

Marc Vandermeer  08:52

Of course, I do, you know, I’ve been here since the beginning, and I remember Tomiko getting drafted. I remember, and we talked about this before. You know players calling him cap as a rookie, he was Captain immediately as a rookie, you knew the alpha out there. And you know, even me, like I’m not Mr. X’s and O’s. But I went out to rookie minicab, and I said, Alf, there he is. There’s the alpha dog, you know. And then the veterans got there, OTAs, there’s the one. He’s the leader. Clearly, the leader. And older guys were leaning on him. He’s that potent a leader. And look, D’Amico could go six and 11 this year, and he’s not going anywhere, and I’m fine with it. He’ll figure it out. I trust his football brain. I think he’s the kind of guy. And as he lets go of some play calling duties on defense, and he’s focusing a little bit on offense too, but the whole operation in general. I think he’s in that offensive room a lot. I think he could also coach the offense. I am not. I am not backing away from that. I think about coaches like Bill Parcells, who could coach both sides of the ball, or maybe Belichick too as well. But he could be that. I’m not saying he should again. I want to get on the record. I’m not saying he should do that. I’m saying. He could do that. He’s that football bright, and I don’t want him going anywhere. He’s a tremendous human being. He’s the kind of guy that the players look up to. They want to be better men, better people around him, because he has that effect on people, and I believe that that’s going to take them far. Does it happen this year? Look, they’re in a hole right now that they got to dig out of, and we’ll see if they can do it. But I’m in here for the long haul with Damico Ryan’s for sure.

Nestor Aparicio  10:23

I think that Houston is, I mean, I think that’s very apparent from the outside in. Kind of reminds me of, you know my guy in Seattle as well here. You know young coaches, when you bring them in and they and it smells right and it feels right, but more than that, when it’s a legacy guy in a franchise where, you know, I don’t want to be disrespectful to Texans as I hold up my oiler stuff, but it’s been a rough go. I mean, I’m an, I’m an Oriole fan here and watching this thing, trying to put it together. It’s, it’s the toughest thing in the world to do is win at sports. And when you have the right people there, you at least feel it. And I feel that way that the Texans didn’t have that for the longest time. But I feel like they got the leadership right, and I feel like they have the quarterback

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Marc Vandermeer  11:05

right. You know, it’s funny, Nestor, because it has been a rough go in that you haven’t been to the AFC Championship Game, and that’s a big disappointment. You have 24 years of football. This is the 24th season. Gosh. And if they Yeah, I know it’s a crazy it’s crazy. I was talking about Kyle boulder a moment ago. I’m dating myself completely. You know, I work with people around this office who, uh, Kyle bowler. I mean, they were like, three years old when that happened. If that it’s crazy, but anyway,

Nestor Aparicio  11:30

that is crazy. I mean, these people, these young people, don’t know anything, yeah,

Marc Vandermeer  11:34

it’s nuts. Because you’re, you’re so young in spirit and energy, and so am I, so to us, that feels like 10 minutes ago and 20 years, right? It just

Nestor Aparicio  11:43

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five years ago. My wife and I go to Hawaii for the first time ever, and we waited all of our lives. Go to y fly to Hawaii all day, all night, through San Francisco, we land. We land in Maui, we rent our car, we drive to the Westin. We get there. We’re jet lagged like, let’s just get in the pool. We went down to the pool. I get in the pool. There are five people in the pool, a guy, a woman, and their kids. I look over it’s Kyle bowler. I’m like, Dude, you can’t escape me. So when you bring up, I loved Kyle bowler, everything about him except the play, and you mentioned that, oh five loss, that you’re still licking your wounds 20 years later, oh five was not a good year around here. We didn’t have good years around here with Kyle bowler, you know. So I know what it’s like to have a quarterback where you think you don’t have the guy. So I

Marc Vandermeer  12:32

tell stories around here. I’m like, hey, the Texans lost to Brian Billick and the kids around here. Like, wait, is that the guy who coached at 2000 team? I’m like, Yes, we lost him in oh two, we played the Ravens here at NRG stadium. Played them close, because the Texans had a defense that inaugural year, and they finished 16th in the league with zero offense. So that was kind of impressive. But anyway, I forget where we were at other than this, the Texans have won a lot of division titles, right? They’ve had a lot. They’ve had more winning seasons than losing season since oh seven. Okay, that if starting at 07 they went 500 so they’ve been 500 or better in more seasons than not since then, they’ve won the AFC South more than anybody since they started winning the division in 2011 that’s all fine, but you got to get to the AFC Championship game. You got to get to the Super Bowl at some point even just get there to participate in that game. It would be so phenomenal this city. You mentioned the Oilers, the Oilers, deepest run as Oilers. I mean, I know the Titans went to the Super Bowl, but the Oilers deepest run was 7879 getting to the AFC Championship game with love you. Blue Earl, Campbell, pastorini, all those guys. And those were great teams, but they had the Steelers in the way they were like a wall, kind of like the chiefs are to Buffalo and the Ravens right now. And you got to get through that wall in order to break through and get to the level you want to achieve.

Nestor Aparicio  13:51

Bum said, We got to kick that door down next year. Cheating with the mike Renfro. Mark Vandermeer is here. He is the long time voice of all things, Houston, Texas. He’s Texans voice. You can follow him out on the social media places as well. Last thing for you, just Incidentally, the D hop thing here, and man, I remember him in Houston thinking that dude’s a Hall of Famer. He’s gone up in the air every game here, four games in a row, and last week, there was a penalty on one of the plays, but he went up in the air, and he grabs the ball effortlessly. And every time I see him play, I think that’s a Hall of Fame dude there. That’s a dude, and they brought him in here, and he’s just an extra piece. They’ve only had him line up 1015, plays a game. They’ve thrown the ball ahead. They don’t throw the ball a lot around here. They’ll be throwing a lot less with Cooper rush around here this week, I would think, as well. But in the case of Hopkins, I mean, that’s, that’s an interesting player. I know, with a lot of tread for the Houston fans there, that you’ll be watching him a little but what a special talent. I mean, I I even see it later in his career, he comes in, and I’m like, That guy’s a great football player.

Marc Vandermeer  14:56

I was shocked when they traded him. My son cried. He was a beloved player. I mean, this is like, I don’t know if I’m overstating. It’s like the Celtics trading Larry Bird or something. Okay, he was that special to the fan base. And, yeah, the Texans have not had we have CJ Stroud now. We had Watson when he was hot. But the Texans are wide receiver you in a way, because you look at Andre Johnson, Hall of Famer on a bunch of bad teams early on in his career. DeAndre Hopkins, I think, is a Hall of Famer. Now we have Nico Collins. He’s really getting going. Now we’ll see where it ends up. I’m not going to put him in that category just yet, but hop was so good, Nestor and so different from Andre Johnson. These receivers are like artists. They’re virtuosos, right? They have different styles. To me, Andre Johnson had even drafted by the Patriots. We’d be talking about Andre Johnson as the greatest receiver that ever lived, because he’d have Super Bowls. He’d have all that postseason success. He I think he would have outdone Jerry Rice. I think he’s Jerry Rice, Robo, Jerry Rice. You know, he’s Jerry Rice in a lab, if stronger, faster, that kind of thing. Andre Johnson was amazing, but hops hands are the best I’ve ever seen. Period. The guy makes incredible catches. And you mentioned a penalty wipes out a catch. The greatest. It’s better than the Odell Beckham catch. Look it up against the Giants, 2014 he goes up one hand over two guys and pulls it down, but it’s wiped out by a penalty, not on him. Well, actually, I think he lined up kind of off the line of scrimmage, or with some one of those. But the catch was amazing. Acrobatically, doesn’t count. He had won against the dolphins. 2018 like caught it with his legs, practically didn’t count because of penalty on somebody else. So he has some amazing catches that don’t count. But he also has the one against the Steelers. Christmas Day. 2017 incredible catch. Tirico went nuts immediately. Said, that’s the catch of the year. He’s made so many as a play by play announcer, I had to learn when the balls on the sideline and it looks like he’s out of bounds, for sure, I would just wait because, Oh, you look at the replay, it gets the two toes down somehow, miraculously, he is amazing. He shows up at the game that you look at the arrival videos. He shows up at a kimono or something. Sometimes he’s so eccentric, and then goes out and gives you 10 for 125, and a score. He’s amazing. I love DeAndre Hopkins. I always will.

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Nestor Aparicio  17:09

Well, it’s been fun watching him, and I wish they would get the ball to him a little bit more. But Mark, I’m just looking to survive this thing here. All the Super Bowl expectation one and three, everybody’s hurt. Make a case that you are taking the purple rat poison here, and that the Texans could be successful this week. How’s that going to happen for them this week?

Marc Vandermeer  17:28

Well, it sounds stupid like it sounds like, don’t, don’t. Well, you have to outscore the opponent. Don’t turn the ball over. Okay, it’s one of those simplistic things, but turnovers have hurt them this year. They cannot turn the ball over. They got to play clean. If they play clean, I think they got a great chance, because the running the ball better. Woody marks is a player to watch out for. Number 27 a rookie, had two touchdowns, one receiving, one rushing last week. He’s good. And I think they got to lean on him more. Lean on these rookies, a little bit more. Jaden Higgins, obviously, throw the ball to Nico Collins, you know. Let that kind of thing cook and eat on defense, whichever way you can look, it’s hard against Lamar Jackson, and we don’t know right now and all that. Derek Henry, my gosh, but you got to find a way to slow this team down. I think that the Texans have to score at least 2427 points to win, and that’s going to be tough against this team in that building, but they got to find a way.

Nestor Aparicio  18:19

Yeah, the big debate here, and I know it’ll come on to your airwaves in Houston, as well as just, will Lamar play or not? And if he plays and he’s got a hammy, he’s not Lamar. You know, if Lamar can’t run, Lamar is not Lamar. So taking that away from him, and then the question of like, one and three is different than three and one, or even two and two, one and four would definitely be different. We say, must win and all that. Do you put Lamar out there if he’s 80% 70% do it? Do you want to lose a game to go to one and four without Lamar? Do you want to get Lamar more injured and like so there’s just, those are the questions this week and and those are not the questions you want to be asking at one and three with everybody injured in the defense. It’s just sky’s falling here right now. And the only thing to make it better is a win on Sunday.

Marc Vandermeer  19:05

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Is Derrick Henry healthy. That’s the thing, because 2018 week two, we go to Tennessee. Their quarterbacks out. They have Blaine Gabbard, and they run the wild, Henry. I called it Derrick Henry, taking a lot of direct snaps, and they just pieced together a game plan. It was Matt Lafleur, the offensive coordinator at the time, did a miraculous job. Texans with Deshaun Watson in his prime lose that game up there to the Titans. And I thought, okay, that’s game planning, man. So the Titans can game plan their way into a win. It’ll be an interesting chess match with whatever’s available. It’s like that cooking show chopped. What kind of ingredients do I have put it together? And let’s see what happens. Let’s see how the meal is for each team.

Nestor Aparicio  19:43

Well, you know what a big Getty Lee fan I am, but I am not in a rush to see Cooper rush play here. So I’m much more of a Lamar guy, Kendrick Lamar guy, and a Lamar Jackson guy. Mark Vandermeer is here. He will be here. Hey, dude, you need a crab cake. I got a spot. So come on in on Saturday, get ready for football on. Monday one o’clock. Ravens and Texans are going to do it. Mark Vandermeer will be calling the action for the Houston Texans on the Texas Radio Network. Hey, man, I had Enrique on I’ve had John McClane. I’m going deep into the heart of Texas to all my old all her fans, as well as the Texans people, to get ready for the football game this week. Luke’s going to be out knowing smells, checking all injury reports. You’re on the W, N, S, T tech service. You’ll get it. First all of that brought to you by coal roofing and Gordian energy. Mark, it’s always pleasure to have you on sometimes they’re playoff games. I hope we both have that problem in 1012, weeks of having to get together in early January. I know we’re crossing our fingers, and all have those hopes, but one in three is one in three. Something could be one in four. We got to make sure it’s

Marc Vandermeer  20:39

not us. Yep, exactly. Let’s hope for the very best here, Nestor, have a good one.

Nestor Aparicio  20:43

Appreciate you. From Houston, Texas, back here to Baltimore, Mark Vandermeer calling the action on the Houston radio, Houston radio network for all things Texas. I’m Nestor. We are W N, S T am 1570 Towson, Baltimore. We never stopped talking Baltimore positive. Stay with us.

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