Councilman Pat Young discusses state of Baltimore County and campaign for Executive

Back at The Beaumont in Catonsville for the Maryland Crab Cake Tour with Councilman Pat Young, who gives Nestor his views on the state of Baltimore County and why he’s running for County Executive.

Councilman Pat Young discussed his candidacy for Baltimore County Executive, emphasizing his military background and experience in the Maryland General Assembly. He highlighted the need for better engagement between county government and residents, citing issues like economic development, public transit, and aging population support. Young shared his vision for improving community centers, such as the Catonsville Armory, and stressed the importance of collaboration and transparency. He also addressed the challenges of balancing local and state government roles, particularly in economic corridors like Security Square Mall. Young’s campaign focuses on making government more accessible and responsive to community needs.

• [ ] Continue public engagement and input process for the future of the Catonsville Armory building.
• [ ] Facilitate direct communication between the county executive and state government to coordinate on the Armory building.
• [ ] Schedule a follow-up meeting to provide an update on the Armory building plans based on public input.

Councilman Pat Young’s Introduction and Personal Background

• Nestor Aparicio introduces Councilman Pat Young, who is running for Baltimore County Executive, and mentions his personal connection to Catonsville.
• Nestor shares his experience of dining at the Beaumont and mentions the Maryland Lottery as a sponsor.
• Pat Young discusses the improvements in Catonsville over the past five to six years, mentioning new businesses like El Guapo and Fate Leaves.
• Nestor and Pat talk about the challenges faced by local businesses, including Damien’s efforts to renovate his building.

Discussion on Local Businesses and Community Engagement

• Nestor and Pat discuss the various dining options at the Beaumont, including fried green tomatoes and trip and grits.
• Pat highlights the importance of community engagement and the role of local businesses in maintaining the vibrancy of Catonsville.
• Nestor mentions his 27th anniversary celebration and his favorite foods, including lobster tail and chicken and waffles.
• Pat emphasizes the need for local platforms to share information about community events and local issues.

Pat Young’s Political Journey and Current Campaign

• Nestor and Pat discuss Pat’s military background and his transition to politics, including his time in the Maryland General Assembly.
• Pat explains his decision to run for Baltimore County Executive, citing his experience and vision for the county’s future.
• Nestor and Pat discuss the importance of community engagement and the role of local government in addressing community needs.
• Pat shares his vision for making Baltimore County Government more accessible and responsive to the needs of its residents.

Challenges and Opportunities in Baltimore County

• Nestor and Pat discuss the challenges faced by Baltimore County, including economic issues and the impact of federal decisions.
• Pat highlights the importance of collaboration between local government and community organizations to address these challenges.
• Nestor and Pat talk about the unique characteristics of different neighborhoods in Baltimore County and the need for tailored solutions.
• Pat emphasizes the importance of focusing resources on areas that need help and working with key organizations to achieve this.

Pat Young’s Leadership Style and Vision for Baltimore County

• Nestor and Pat discuss Pat’s leadership style, including his experience in the military and his approach to problem-solving.
• Pat shares his vision for Baltimore County, including making government more accessible and responsive to the needs of its residents.
• Nestor and Pat discuss the importance of collaboration and working together to address community issues.
• Pat emphasizes the need for a cultural shift in Baltimore County Government to ensure that residents feel heard and supported.

The Armory Issue and Community Engagement

• Nestor and Pat discuss the issue of the Catonsville Armory and the community’s concerns about its future.
• Pat explains the history of the armory and the challenges faced in finding a suitable use for the building.
• Nestor and Pat discuss the importance of community engagement and the need for transparency in the decision-making process.
• Pat highlights the efforts made to involve the community in the decision-making process and the importance of public input.

Pat Young’s Campaign Platform and Future Plans

• Nestor and Pat discuss Pat’s campaign platform, including his focus on economic development, community engagement, and government accountability.
• Pat shares his vision for Baltimore County’s future, including addressing economic issues, improving public transit, and supporting the aging population.
• Nestor and Pat discuss the importance of collaboration and working together to achieve common goals.
• Pat emphasizes the need for a cultural shift in Baltimore County Government to ensure that residents feel heard and supported.

Pat Young’s Personal Story and Motivation

• Pat shares a personal story about a fight he had with a friend as a child and the lesson he learned from his father.
• Pat explains how this lesson has influenced his approach to leadership and his commitment to serving others.
• Nestor and Pat discuss the importance of having a sense of mission and purpose in life.
• Pat emphasizes the need for government to be a problem solver and to provide resources and support to its residents.

The Importance of Government and Community Support

• Nestor and Pat discuss the role of government in supporting the community and addressing its needs.
• Pat highlights the importance of government being responsive and accessible to its residents.
• Nestor and Pat discuss the challenges faced by local businesses and the need for government support to help them thrive.
• Pat emphasizes the importance of collaboration and working together to achieve common goals.

Pat Young’s Commitment to Public Service

• Nestor and Pat discuss Pat’s commitment to public service and his dedication to making a positive impact in Baltimore County.
• Pat shares his vision for the future and his plans to continue serving the community.
• Nestor and Pat discuss the importance of community engagement and the need for government to be responsive to the needs of its residents.
• Pat emphasizes the importance of collaboration and working together to achieve common goals.

SUMMARY KEYWORDS

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SPEAKERS

Nestor Aparicio, Speaker 1, Pat Young

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Nestor Aparicio  00:00

Welcome home. We are W, N, S, T. Am 1570 task Baltimore. We are Baltimore, positive, positively out here at the Beaumont right now, they got lamb chops on for me right now. Maybe a pork chop take home to my wife with that special peach marmalade stuff that they do out here. It’s always great out here. Life is great. The 21228, it’s all brought to you by friends at the Maryland lottery. I have Raven scratch off to give away. I have Councilman Pat young here, who’s running for Baltimore county executive. I will have lamb chops before it’s all over with like, I know you’re proud of everything Catonsville Pat, so start with that, but you’re saying all the tag lines it makes Well, I did my tastiness. Brought to you by curio wellness and foreign daughter. It’s my 27th anniversary. We have a little 27th logo here. Thank you. August 3 was our 27th anniversary, so I’m celebrating by eating my 27 favorite things to eat. And obviously I’ve known Evan here a number of years. State Fair came on chicken and waffles, then Beaumont opens in the middle of the plague, and we felt my wife in love with the pork chop over here. Me, it was always the lobster tail, but we, but my wife got mad at me. She’s like, the lobster tail, fine. It’s good, but the lamb chops here at the Beaumont is what you should get Now, Stu tells me he didn’t eat meat. He said, No, no, get the fried green tomatoes. Get the trip and grits. So you got a lot of great dining options out here, beautiful Catonsville, right?

Pat Young  01:19

And it’s got, it’s got, only gotten better in the last, I’d say, you know, five, six years and not and they’re not done. You mentioned, stay fair, Beaumont, even El Guapo is here, and we have fate leaves coming in, right?

Nestor Aparicio  01:29

I know all about that. Damien’s been trying to get that frontage up so

Pat Young  01:35

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that, you know, that’s not to get right into, but watching them kind of go through these challenges, just with a building that’s older, and realizing that when they try to put a roof on, they were informed of what was going on with the roof that they had to take care of. It’s dangerous. Told me to store in the air, you know? Oh, good. Hey, I didn’t want to take this couple weeks ago, sure. Yeah, very friends of mine, but totally committed to being here, and we’re looking forward to them

Nestor Aparicio  01:57

opening up, yeah? When? When? When? Ask you, when

Pat Young  02:02

did they tell you what they what they did? They say, soon

Nestor Aparicio  02:05

I’ll be back in faith. Lee, sometime soon you get some crack, order some crab cakes from Davey. She’ll be glad to help you. Um, all right, so you been a councilman here, you know, I go through military background, and Trump, and just all the nonsense, the armory, all things going on, sure, but you’re back. You’re making a move. And, you know, I’ve had Julian on, I’ve had Izzy on, I’ve had Nick on. You’re the fourth, the last person I’ve had on, but I chased you down and make, you know, I mean, we you wound up in the window here, in 21228, I’m just on a policy level. And where we are with, with Johnny Oh, moving on. I’ve had Johnny Oh on a Picasso since morning a couple months ago. He months ago, he had him on, for any of you on just the fact we’re trying to move the county forward. I’m a county resident, own a business here, care a lot about the county, and I wanted to talk to all of you, because I’m gonna have a vote in all if not an endorsement, but a vote for sure. I think it’s important that everybody knows you guys, all

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Pat Young  02:59

of you agree. Gals, well, appreciate you have another platform, but yeah, and I’m actually surprised didn’t have your number from the last time you had me on back during the council race. So that was my fault.

Nestor Aparicio  03:07

This is where I sing the millet baby, don’t you lose my number. Look, we’re all we’re all in this together, right? Eventually, got you out here. You’ve been busy as a councilman, though, I know that. And you know, I had Todd on before he had his problems at David Marcus on a couple weeks ago. You know, I try to have all of you on because we it’s Baltimore positive. Yeah, I’ll talk ravens and oils and all that. But there’s nothing more important. I think we learned this during covid Then our communities and what’s going on and who our leadership is.

Pat Young  03:35

Yeah, no, I appreciate you doing that too, because, I mean, at there aren’t as many platforms for folks to kind of get out what’s happening locally, right? I mean, we used to have a local paper. I mean, even if you consider the Catonsville times used to be in our Buddhist times, that doesn’t really exist anymore, Eagle guy, right? So that and that that was going on, I think it’s still around. But to think

Nestor Aparicio  03:56

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about Ted van a toll from the Towson times for other years before,

Pat Young  03:59

yeah, and now just don’t have as many options to kind of get out there, being able to open up your your platform, to any of us. It, it’s a great opportunity to kind of reach other folks that we otherwise wouldn’t have act

Nestor Aparicio  04:09

well, I feel like that’s even if Trump comes and takes my FCC license. This is my not just a calling, but I think it’s my duty, and I think I’ve looked through my years with Orioles and ravens and ravens and even the Colts coming back this week, right? 75 Colts. It’s just the most important thing we could do is take care of business, take care of our schools, our people. We’re all in this together, whether we want to be or not, black or white, right or left, east or west. Don Doctor Catonsville, you know? And I think the county, the thing I’ve learned from my relationship with Don molar and Jim Smith before that, and Kevin Kamen, it’s his boy. Carson on he’s running for office for one of your gigs. The thing I’ve learned about this is our county is an amazing county across all the counties in the country, top 100 county population. In money businesses here, I got Social Security employees at the counter up here. Just it’s an important County for water, for land, for, you know, the purpleness of our state and the size of the county being a primary county in the state. So this is a big step for you, right?

Pat Young  05:18

It absolutely is. And you know, they talk about Maryland being American miniature. I mean, Baltimore County also is a form of America in miniature. We have water, we have rural we have urban space, heavy red places on the east side, yes, and, and when you say purple too, I mean when, when it comes to elections nationwide or even for the whole county, the entire state, the which way Baltimore County goes. Generally, that’s the way the entire state goes. So Wes Moore won it when he when he won the primary. Larry Hogan won it Baltimore County when he won the first time around, too. So it really is a good microcosm of how the entire state thinks and the mentality here.

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Nestor Aparicio  05:57

I don’t think it’s a foregone conclusion that winning a Democratic primary in Baltimore County is an automatic ticket to being the county executive. And I’ve talked to Al redmer at length about that when he was running. He’s a friend of mine, a sane Republican. I like everyone, all three of you. I know I love all of you, but I had, you know, had al on back when he was running as well. I don’t think it’s automatic. And I think hearing your message, I heard Nick first, and I think Julian, is he you? What is your message to Baltimore County at this point? Because, I mean, you’ve been, you’ve had your hands in a sticky sauce of picking the current county executive,

Pat Young  06:34

right? Yeah, no. And also representing this growing up here, but also representing this county in the Maryland General Assembly for eight years, chaired the Baltimore County delegation for four of those years before coming on the council, really getting idea and recognizing the impact that the state decisions have on our local policy, especially in this last budget season. I mean, I think that you’re asking about in terms of a message, and what I’ve seen growing up here and seeing how different neighborhoods evolve different economic corridors. Have you know which ones have struggled and which ones have been a very fruitful sitting here right now?

Nestor Aparicio  07:09

If, every municipality of Baltimore County, if every Reisterstown, I don’t want to forget Reisterstown, Randallstown, Arbutus, Woodlawn, just go all the way around. If every locker, every Dundalk, yeah, if I wish Dundalk had this vibrancy, right? And Towson has been struggling. I Nancy effort, and I’ve been added the online and trying to lift house in a Towson. So important, you would agree with that, Kenny, but if, but Catonsville was a little bit of and you being over here, you can you’re biased, right? And I spent enough time over here. I told Don molar for years, I didn’t understand the west side versus the east side. I didn’t spend enough time over here in that way, and certainly not living here and knowing a lot of people over here, but I have over the last 20 years. How do we get more Catonsville that sound like molar now?

Pat Young  08:00

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But no, you bring up a good point too. I mean, there’s always these ebbs and flows, right? I know Towson is having some economic issues that they’re trying to address that’s somehow tied and partly tied to some of the federal decisions have been made, but also from covid and trying to figure out what the new normal empty storefronts a weird thing, right? And folks getting back to work, some some businesses mandating and other ones still having, like flexibility for workers that so they can work from home, which takes an impact on downtowns like Towson and sometimes for Catonsville, I’d say that what makes us unique is not only do we have businesses here and folks that are working here professionally, but it’s also supported by the surrounding neighborhood that’s always made downtown Catonsville great, and over time, even when I was here, so I was recruited.

Nestor Aparicio  08:46

It’s a little bit like a Friends episode, right? I mean, it is, right? It is, everybody seems, comes and sits at the counter. You know what? I mean, right? Like I I walked in here. Jack Antwerp was here. He said yes to me. Oh, no. We said yes. He said, Yes. So let me stop you. I know Jack and Louis. Wait, but I mean, my competitors were here hosting a client. Like, literally, yeah, clear channels here. So, like, I walked in, I don’t just know Paulie behind the bar or Tatra people have run the place. But like I there have been seven patrons, right? Humans in here, not you, not invited guests, seven different humans that have been in here since I walked in here at 1215 that I know in the and this is a small restaurant, it is so I mean, I would just say that the humanity of Catonsville and getting people out, and the vibrancy of yaps being open state fair, you know, all of these places bring people out, and they know they’re gonna see people they know. And that’s community. That is community. That is.

Pat Young  09:41

Community. It is. And from my experience, too, going around the entire entire county, when you mentioned Dundalk, too, they have in their own Main Street. It’s its own vibe, right? And you run into folks from that side of town that I don’t necessarily

Nestor Aparicio  09:53

know. I go into squires or cost this, I don’t everybody’s my friend. You wouldn’t know a lot of people, right? Right? Because you’re not from that side of town,

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Pat Young  09:59

right? And. Sitting and going, going to Squires, going to some of the other restaurants on that side of town, and sitting down with folks just for a meeting. They run into folks they know, and it feels, the feel is very similar. And I say that to say that there’s everyone has their own affinity, right? Like you go to Arbutus, and there’s the spot you go to down there. There’s Catonsville, and then you also have Reisterstown Road all the way around this entire county from one end to the other, and folks don’t recognize that if they’re not from there, but that vibe of where they’re from, where they’ve grown up, still, yeah, that’s absolutely I thought you were asking, for example, but know that, Oh, it’s right, right? And you know, st Joe on my side, just a shout out on that. But I won’t hold it against you. That’s all right, same. But that idea of what makes a neighborhood great, what makes a community great, and even a main street, and focusing our resources as a county, as a government, on who’s doing well and who needs help, and following the lead of our key organizations that are operating in those areas. So we have the Catonsville Chamber of Commerce. There’s the Townsend Chamber of Commerce, other organizations that care about what’s going on in the area. Just recently, you’ve mentioned the armory. There’s a group of citizens that started the Friends of the Catonsville armory, that are actively now engaging with me, engaging with the county executive’s office and the state about what happens next, folks that are already putting time in that you don’t know about unless you go in and put roots down, but also put your feet down on the ground and engage with the neighborhood about who are the key players, who’s keeping who’s keeping this place alive, and if we want to provide more resources, who do we go to to try and do that as a government, well as a

Nestor Aparicio  11:34

government, as an elected for a number of years here in different ways. I mean, you’ve walked in, asked for a handshake, ask for a vote, ask for money, ask for support, ask for an ear. Just listen to me. You know, just hear me out. You’re my idea. Hang a sign up. You know, doing all of that, what at this point makes you want to run for county executive? Why is this the right lane for you right now?

Pat Young  11:54

Right? So thanks for asking too. I think being on the council for two and a half years, the experience that I had in the Maryland General Assembly, and having a vision for a vision for where we move forward as a county together and as a as a government. I think that my experience is living here also are exactly the same experiences that folks that have been trying to deal with county government, whether they’re a business or just an individual, whether they’re working with code enforcement, where they’re working with permits. There’s a mentality that, if or a feeling right, that if you engage with Baltimore County Government, that you’re not treated as a partner. It’s more often than not you’re it’s felt like you’re an adversary to try and get a situation fixed or solving a problem. I’ve had an issue with that recent times, yes, and that’s sort of what I’ve gotten even before, like I should

Nestor Aparicio  12:39

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have solved it. When Johnny was running the county, I went to sleep on that maybe, well, I

Pat Young  12:42

would say that from and I mentioned this Johnny too. I think he recognized from being around that this, this isn’t new. I mean, this is a feeling that I’ve had even before, getting involved in local getting things done, getting things done, but also being trying to be a partner, right? And approaching an office, or approaching the folks that are that you identify as the decision makers to solve something as a partner, but being treated as a road a speed bump or something

Nestor Aparicio  13:06

make my business better, you’re fundamentally helping make the county better. Absolutely. I mean, I don’t know what else there is to say, right? You make parking better at the Beaumont. You make the Beaumont better if you make, literally, the traffic lights work, the water runs. It’s pothole, not in front of the hat, that there’s not loitering, that it’s safe to be here, that right, like just all of that, quality of life right, feeds into business being able to employ people and be sustainable.

Pat Young  13:32

And while in just had this conversation the other day with a business in Baltimore County, they’ve there, we are full of programs and full of folks that are willing to provide a layer of assistance. There might be a grant available, there might be funding available through a loan, but after you’re told about it, and you’re there isn’t a follow up, it’s like, Here you go. Good luck to you. Fill out the form, fill out the form, fill out and then you may not get it, and then trying to follow back up. There’s there’s intent, and want to be helpful, but then the next step needs to be there to then get folks to then get folks to the end of the end of the line, to actually be, be assist, be an assistant, be a value added to folks that live here. And I feel like that’s missing, and has been missing from Baltimore County Government for a while. There seems to it. The perception is, if you know somebody or the right person, then you can move something, but if you don’t, you get stuck in the mud. And I want to end that, and I

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Nestor Aparicio  14:20

want to fix it all right. So guess what? Pat Young’s here. We’re over in beautiful Catonsville. We’re in the 21228, we are at the Beaumont. If you hear glasses clinging, it’s Larry Stewart and all of his buddies up with Paulie having a delicious lunch here. Brought to you by the mayor of the lottery. Raven scratch off. Skip away. I thought I was gonna eat lamb chops here today. I thought was gonna get I haven’t done it. I haven’t eaten anything. Keep talking about lamb chops. I barely got water here. Let me get a bowl of soup or something. Um, I want to ask you about the State of the County. And when Johnny left, and I’ve asked man to man, I haven’t talked to Crandall, I talked to David Marks, on and off the air about this, he joined me Pete’s, John’s, I guess I’m going around the county Hotel. I’m trying to think of the people that I want to talk to. But. To do the notion you’re going to select a county executive that wasn’t one of you, that wouldn’t be offensive to anybody. It’s four to three, Democrat and Republican, and where the numbers are, whether it would be a Republican or a Democrat, would be make it palatable, and then the inevitable fight about the inspector general situation and how they’re one and one A and what you were trying to accomplish when, I mean, I had Barry Williams on my show up at the Y right? And then I sat with the current county executive, not on the air, but off the air. And I thought to myself, did you guys make a good decision? I, you know, like I’m wondering that as a citizen, as to whether I would vote for her, or whether I would have her on my show, or whether there’s a level of, I don’t want to be disrespectful and say competency, but just awareness, or the ability to be more than a placeholder that all of you can then run against or not run right? But I am a little concerned as a resident and as a citizen, is that how the whole product, because I thought the process was kind of corny, and I might have thought that when Don molar was selected, but that was a different circumstance, where there was tragedy and it was quick and it was down and dirty. It was five months and it was done, and he was a basically, you took a high school principal and an educator and said, We’re going to put you in that spot. And Don didn’t want to rock the boat. He said a million times. He said a million times that I didn’t want to make a lot of decisions because I wasn’t elected, right, right? I just found all of this to be a little bit strange and a little bit different. That’s all, yeah, one radio guy to another,

Pat Young  16:33

yes, no,

Nestor Aparicio  16:34

and I, I want to. That’s eight, by the way. WBA, I’ve had clear channels already been here today. We bring Bal in too. It’s fine. Hi. He’s on the radio. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

Pat Young  16:48

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anyway, yeah, no, I was mentioning that the charter wasn’t I

Nestor Aparicio  16:51

love giving Bal trouble from the, from the from the front of here at the Beaumont, wherever you can

Pat Young  16:57

the charter. The charter stated what to do in the case of a vacancy. And obviously that was the first time, I think that was actually done, was with Don Muller when they appointed him. I don’t think it had had been utilized before that. And now

Nestor Aparicio  17:11

it’s such a strange circumstance someone passes away, absolutely resigns, or physically can’t do the job or and knowing

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Pat Young  17:16

was such a short period of time as well, and that there was someone that had been involved in the administration and county government for county government for decades. It made a lot of sense. On our side, we

Nestor Aparicio  17:26

seemed a lot easier when DOM was selected. It didn’t seem controversial, right?

Pat Young  17:30

And because there was so much time between a rumor of, you know, Johnny running for Congress and assuming he would win. And so there was time in between for folks to kind of ramp up, line up, and sort of some decided to try and put some, for lack of a better word, campaign toward it right? Because even though you weren’t really campaigning, it was about trying to engage with the folks that the camp, the citizenry, but also the county council members that made the decision. And I think everybody, to some extent, played a role in that. I mean, even Kathy had reached out to and had a relationship with everyone on the council. I knew her from serving in the legislature for eight years, knowing her as a senator and as a competent Leader in the Senate. And what I’ve experienced now, and I’ll say this too, from some of the came from the legislature to county government, it is different. It is a different job and different approach. So what I’ve seen too, and even having a conversation with her, was the thing that I experienced, too, was that there’s a different tempo and a different style to legislating at the state level. And that makes sense, because it’s 90 days. Once the clock starts ticking, you have 90 days to get your work done, and then it’s then it’s done here, it’s all year round. And not only have it, if you’re the executive, it’s all looking at you, so you can’t,

Nestor Aparicio  18:41

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well, if there’s a murder in Woodlawn, you have to. It’s a different job than being a legislator. Absolutely, yeah, and I would say Johnny was so good at managing things, there’s so many people disappoint. I told John disappointed that you’re doing this because you were good at that, exactly. And that’s a

Pat Young  18:54

different job, right? And it is, and interesting enough. I’m sure. Have you had Johnny on since I have? Yes, yeah, I’m sure, just that, that culture shock of coming from being the executive to now being in the in the everybody

Nestor Aparicio  19:06

hates everybody down there. Nobody works together. You know, it’s like, that’s different than, yeah, locally, I have a police chief, and if we’re all working toward the same goal, which is a safety and the advancement of our community, what down there you’re working for, fighting against each other, bills, and it’s a different

Pat Young  19:24

it’s a different national platform where there’s, there’s a, I would imagine, a pressure to fight.

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Nestor Aparicio  19:29

Johnny did an hour and a half of me, you thought about it, but I mean, down there, it’s a lot of Trumpy, and a lot of you know Marjorie Taylor, you know, right? You’re in that space to try to get oxygen. Here it’s, there’s a fire, there’s a murder, there’s a there’s a school, there’s a shooting, there’s a thing, there’s a trauma, there’s a war, there’s a there’s a local group that needs there’s families trying to get

Pat Young  19:49

a yes, trying to get a building to open a business, and to that exact point too, well, we are working together, and it is about collaboration at this point. So when it came down to trying to decide on, I. Who the next county executive would be, and looking at the Charter, which didn’t give a whole lot of you know, guidance on what to do, so we chose to try and provide as much opportunity for the public to kind of participate in that process. We knew collectively that we didn’t want we wanted somebody that could get seven votes. We wanted somebody that could pass muster with every single member of the Council, because at the end of the day, it would be the county executive working with the county council and the county council working with the county

Nestor Aparicio  20:27

executive for three Republican, Democrat, east, west. Y’all don’t agree. I mean, right? I mean literally, right.

Pat Young  20:37

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Yeah, there’s, and I would say this, there’s more things that we passed that’s unanimous and that we work together on, then we disagree on, but when we disagree, it’s for legitimate reasons, and the that’s the purpose of the discourse, and that’s the purpose of being these positions too, to fight for your community and also present what you believe to be the best impression of what your constituents want from your district. Well, it’s

Nestor Aparicio  20:55

different for you being a military guy too, right? Because you took orders there, right? Let’s relate to something great, right?

Pat Young  21:00

I absolutely been in the military, taking some orders, but also rising to the point where I was able to also give a few and lead folks, especially in second tour in Iraq, I was in a leadership position, but not the first time,

Speaker 1  21:12

though, yeah, there’s a role for both, though, right, right, right?

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Pat Young  21:16

And collaborated. Then we were like, there’s that. It’s a different kind of fight in the legislature, state and local, than it is in in the military, in the Marine Corps. But the collaboration piece of being on a team, I think, is the mindset that I try to bring as much as I can. So when we work together, we work together. And when it’s time to present, you know, aggressively, my my opinion and my position on something, it’s time to do that. So it’s there’s time to collaborate, and there’s time to also push back and fight for

Nestor Aparicio  21:42

something. Pat Young’s here, Councilman, we’re in Catonsville, all right, so you’re running for county executive with some why Give me? Give me the whole will you give me your campaign thing? And then we’re getting to the to the armory. I want to recommend.

Pat Young  21:55

I’m happy to talk. Yeah, so you know, and if you allow me a story, I

Nestor Aparicio  22:00

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do hear storytelling. Well, they’re good. I’ll tell a story. That’s I mean, I got a lamb chop, so I know you got

Pat Young  22:05

stories. So when I going back all the way all the way back, I can growing up in Catonsville, growing up in this area, and why do I do what I do? And what’s an inflection point in terms of what the decisions that I’ve made over the last 42 years have been I remember, I was maybe around 10 or 12 years old, I got into a serious fight with a good friend of mine, like and we’re still friends now, but it came to blows. You know, you could tell we got into a fight. I don’t even know what the argument or what the fight was about, but I do remember I had to go home, and my mother told me I had to talk to my father. I had to let him know what had happened. And my father worked for the NSA for 35 years. Eddie, he wasn’t a secret agent, at least he said he wasn’t, but that made him suspect in the first place. But if you didn’t want to talk to dad, as soon as he came home, he went right to his easy chair, and his legs came up, and you had to talk to him. He was an affectionate man. He you know, I knew he loved me, but that was just sort of his way. He worked. He came home, went to his chair, so I had to stand there and tell him what happened. And I’m going through this whole story and trying to make excuses and trying to, like, you know, put blame on somebody else. And he’s listening to me, and I can tell he’s intent. And I stop, and there is a pause, and he puts the legs of his chair down. I’m like, that’s not a good sign. And he stands up, and he puts his shoulders, hands on my shoulders. He says, Pat. If you’re gonna get into a fight, you damn well better be defending somebody else. And I don’t think he meant to. He didn’t know he was like, creating a moment. It wasn’t manufactured. He he was concerned, and he didn’t want me to one fight with a friend, but also just getting into an altercation. But in that moment, it was a recognition of, it’s okay to break a rule. It’s okay to cross a line if it’s for somebody else, if it’s defending somebody else, it’s for not for yourself, not for selfish reasons. It’s at the end of the day. The purpose is to assist someone. And that doesn’t mean it has to be physical if you’re gonna do an argument, if you’re getting into a fight, if you’re going in, if you’re going to fight for something physically. Mentally, you know, academically, it should be for something else, something bigger than you. And I tell that story just to say that in terms of, why am I doing this, and why am I, why did I do any of this? Why did I join the Marine Corps? Was this idea, this concept of something bigger than me, I went through the Boy Scouts, became an Eagle Scout for this concept of giving back and learning how to give back the best way that I can, and then coming out and losing that sense of mission from the military, that a lot of veterans coming back have, that sense of a lost mission, a lost purpose, and putting that time and effort into helping other vets, and then leading to running for

Nestor Aparicio  24:36

all you were in the military, you were thinking about running for councilman. Were you No, right? Yeah, you’re right, yeah.

Pat Young  24:41

Honestly, a father having 35 years in the federal government, I thought I was gonna work. Yeah, there was a point where I thought I do 20 years in the military. After my second, you would have a government job, right? That was your track. Yeah. Okay, so there wasn’t an intent, but the direct wasn’t putting signs up with your name to run for county executive. No, it was not okay. And, and. Think up here honestly, if you talk to me from 11 years ago, even then, it would have been like, are you crazy? I don’t think that I wouldn’t have seen myself in these positions 15 years ago, but I’m glad that I I’m glad that I have been I mean, being able to engage with the neighborhood that I grew up in, the community I grew up in, the county that I’ve called home my entire life, has been a blessing and also just a experience that I would never change for anything. Every now and then you think about what would happen if I stayed in the military, but you know that’s the impact would have not been nearly as much as it’s been here trying to help other veterans, help family members, help folks from just around this neighborhood try and solve problems, and at the end of the day, how can I use my talents and what I’ve learned to impact the most amount of people in a positive way. How can we utilize government to emulate what I believe it to be, which is a problem solver in a place that people can go to solve their issues when they’ve run into a wall or they can’t solve them themselves, that’s what in the very basic we’re supposed to be providing as a as a government, as a council person, as an elected official, look out for people, looking out and making lives better, and that I could go in, I could you asked the question Nestor, and I could go into, you know, policy positions as well. I mean, we talked about Catonsville. And I think about these economic corridors that either have historic main streets or historic economic corridors. I think about security, security Boulevard. I think about route 40. I think about the road and trade pointed land, sure, even right now, like 11 years ago, when I in 2014 when I got elected, I grew up going to security Square Mall. 13 years old was when I was allowed to walk there myself. And I spent more time there that movie theater than I probably, you know, needed, than I probably should have. But that was my stomping ground, and then watching over time as it deteriorated, then finding out spent finding out, especially getting in the government, how that happened over time. And then one mall isn’t the same experience from another Mall. But then how, what

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Nestor Aparicio  26:50

it means outside the mall, absolutely. East Point mall guy, right? Golden rings gone, but it’s been repurposed, right? So those things in the county,

Pat Young  26:58

and now, from that, now, 11 years later, what? Even then thinking, how could we fix this? And even talk with my colleague, Senator Sydnor, what can we do? And then finding out through working with county government, working with the state government, to now that the county has owned now the county owns a third of that property, a little bit more than a third of that property, start a the first public private partnership to develop an area that is the size of Annapolis, the size of old Annapolis is. You can overlay the map over top of the security Square Mall property that is a that is a generational changing opportunity for an area, for a county, for a community, and we’re we’re so close because we’ve been able to leverage support and dollars from the federal government, the state government the state government, and from local government to do something that it’s never, traditionally been involved with development, has consistently been about somebody that might own a piece of property. Is it zoned appropriately, if not go through the zoning process, if you meet all these other requirements related to planning and permits, go ahead and build what you want. But this has to be intentful. This has to be public. Well, I talked

Nestor Aparicio  28:02

to Nick Stewart, who’s also running for this gig, over about White Marsh. And we did it, staring at White Marsh, right? Red station. And, you know, I had Bill blocker on, who owns red brick station. And I’ve known Billy 30 years. I remember when the avenue was a concept, and I thought, Who the hell would go there? I go to the mall, right? Who’s gonna go outside shop? You know? Who’s gonna do that? Who’s gonna shop online ever? So now that’s come along, right? And that White Marsh mall area sitting there, the same well housing, where the Sears was, and walking space, and an indoor sort of this and that I’m thinking, well, that in a mall, but we don’t need them all. We have. We have space for them all. We dug it up in 1981 and made it a mall. What do we do with it? Now, same thing over here. That’s, that’s your, you know, East sideway and in Towson, the same thing we built a mall maybe, you know, that’s not exactly what it needs to be anymore. And all this extra space, all of this would be under the purview of county executive young, right?

Pat Young  28:54

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Absolutely. And playing a choice to take an active role in trying to figure we mentioned East Point mall, and driving on that side, I see what, I see what could be. And I see where security Square Mall was even like, you know, 10 years ago, where there was really no plan, there was no attempt to even try and find one,

Nestor Aparicio  29:11

but a pace that was set out after years ago, next to freeways, right with access, egress, Ingress, like all of that was sort of played out from it just being there, I mean, and places like White Marsh and even Columbia, and how they’re planned, they were planned for many, many years. I mean, White Marsh was a marsh. It was a middle of nothing, and it became its own city. My kid went to Perry Hall because White Marsh existed. That’s right, because the mall came 20 years later, my kid had a high school to go to and right? And trailers out in the back, sure, sure, yeah. Well, that’s another thing about how much is too much for population, because we have a nice population base, right, right?

Pat Young  29:51

Absolutely. And I would say this, you know, there’s the 2020, census, and over time of evaluation, it said that we sort of lost. Population. I think that numbers have been skewed because of covid when we were trying to conduct a census. I think the 2030, census is going to put us in the right, in the right direction in terms of growth.

Nestor Aparicio  30:10

Well, the high schools would tell you we’re not exactly right. We’re gonna get less people right. We get more babies.

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Pat Young  30:15

So and I think that’s also why it was such a from a standpoint of being an elected official, seeing those numbers come back and being disappointed, because losing population is also recognition of losing dollars from the federal state. Where does where is their investment? Where is there an argument for more dollars to come in? So I think that the 2030, census really recognizing the true population of Baltimore County and how we’ve grown and how we’ve also consistently, you know, changed over time is going to be key to the next 10 years, one of what we can do, but also what we where should we should be focusing our our efforts and where should be focusing our resources. What’s the

Nestor Aparicio  30:50

biggest issue in the county? I mean, as you see, I mean, you’re sitting here, one of the seven people don’t run it. I mean, what’s say budget? What would you say money? It’s always money.

Pat Young  31:01

Well, always money. So it wouldn’t be fair. Wouldn’t be fair to just say it’s budget, but, like, I think, but folks are feeling it now, I think, from a standpoint of, like, what are, what are issues that other people are feeling? It’s like even any families feeling the pinch when they go to the grocery store, when they go to the pump, just there, they don’t, folks don’t have as much flexible or disposable income as they used to, and they’re feeling it. And most folks, I mean, I think there was a study saying that most families don’t have don’t have savings enough to cover even two weeks or three weeks worth of job loss. Like not it’s forget paycheck. I saw

Nestor Aparicio  31:39

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credit card debt being, like, outrageous in the country right now, like all time, crazy high, and I heard that 15 years ago, but I’m thinking leverage this stuff right and for anybody,

Pat Young  31:49

and then these are things that the county necessarily can change, but it’s something we have to deal with. How do we make people’s lives easier when it comes to what we can what we can do, knowing that folks are already feeling it when it comes to what they have available to them in terms of resources to make their lives easier, what we can do to leverage with the state when it comes to our public transit system, giving people more options so that the working where they want to work and living where they want to work, living where they want to work, and working where they want to can be more affordable, so They can make a conscious choice, not a forced choice, even when it comes to seniors, to allowing folks to to to age in place where they want to, but having the resources available to make sure that they’re safe in the place that they called home.

Nestor Aparicio  32:32

There. The thing I’ve heard from several of you, including Carson Kamenetz, who was very astute about all this stuff, and Nick Stewart, I think, brought it up to, is just the aging population of our county, and I guess I’m one of them. You know, I went to elementary school here. I went to middle school, went to high school with Community College, had a business here for 30 years. I lived in the city for 19 but I’m back in the county voting again. And I, you know, know whether I’ll die here or not, but I’d like to think that, like whatever the Atti center is, or whatever they’re doing at the by Coda over there, sure would be able to have enough space to have people like me and as we get older, to age gracefully and easily, and transportation and ease of service and all those kinds of things that you’d want to have for quality in life as we get older. But I did not realize we were an aging County. Oh, yeah, right. And, and a lot of people leave here. We don’t move to Florida more for Baltimore County, to some degree, right? Yeah, Parkville,

Pat Young  33:26

that’s true. And I think the aging population that we’ve recognized engaged with too, is that they’re not everyone wants to necessarily downsize. They’ve had an entire they’ve had a home that they’ve raised a family in. I couldn’t make my mother leave her house and wouldn’t leave I, you know, I would have killed her. I also, I also faced this issue. Back before the pandemic 2019 my mother had died, and then my father had had a massive stroke, and they were living in the same home that I’d grown up in. We had to make a decision for my father. My sister’s a nurse, had medical power of attorney. It wasn’t safe to bring him back to the house, I was able to leverage my own resources. But I’m lucky because I served on the Health and Social Services Subcommittee. I knew folks in county government, in the part of aging to kind of help answer questions related to, if we wanted to bring him home, how much would that cost, and what would it in the sense of, what would it take to make the house safe? And one person came in saying, like, honestly, on a three story it was a two story house with a basement. I’m not sure if it is safe for somebody with memory care issues, sure and needing to make the decision for him to then find a place nearby, and then he made it back to the house once or twice, but never in the way that he wanted to. But also, he wasn’t completely in control of one is memory, or two is is faculties to then leave him alone. You had to, it almost like I had to bring him to his own home as like a visit to then take him back to work

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Nestor Aparicio  34:52

for All right, so, yeah, you know, and anybody that’s experienced it, right? You’re going to have to reach the government for help in some way, absolutely. Absolutely government and hospital will be a part of your journey. That’s true if it hasn’t and you need help, right? Because nobody’s navigated it before. I never had a 98 year old mother

Pat Young  35:10

and folks who don’t think about it or realize until they are faced with it and they how do I do who do I call? Where do I go? And we’re lucky to have a Department of Aging that does have resources. But if folks aren’t thinking about it or they’ve never engaged with them before, that’s part of the job that I do like and as a council person, as elected official, but also as the county executive, being able to connect people easier to the things that they pay their taxes for you pay your taxes, not just to have smooth roads, not only to have sewer water, not only these, these services, but it’s also a we provide certain support that you should have an expectation of being able to access when the time comes, especially when, especially when it comes to aging population. We just want

Nestor Aparicio  35:51

somebody that cares when you pick up the phone. That’s all, yeah, that’s it. And I

Pat Young  35:54

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think that’s a cultural thing, too, from the top that has to come from the top. If you’re you’ve experienced, I’ve experienced it. Anyone in this county can have a has a story of engaging with county government and not having someone that seems like they care. That push comes from the top and expectation from county workers and folks recognizing that they serve the people of Baltimore County

Nestor Aparicio  36:16

first, I can honestly say I’ve had a rocky row with various things that I’ve needed to get done with Baltimore County Government, right? I can honestly say that as when he’s voted here, got a diploma on the wall and lives here that and I know Johnny, oh, I knew Don Mueller. I know Jim, I know all the cats, but I have an issue right now that I can’t get solved, right? Literally, and I and I don’t know, and I’ve quit on it. I’ve just sort of like, all right, I’m throwing my hands on if I can’t get help, yelling on the radio about it,

Pat Young  36:45

which, which, hearing from the public. Sometimes it gets to the point, just like you said, where it almost seems like a strategy to keep it hard to not even if the even if they have the answer, even when we’ve gotten involved, like they’ve told me the answer, like, why don’t you just tell them? Like, what are you telling me for because I’ve gotten involved with it. Was it that hard to kind of explain it or engage with somebody who’s reached out to the office? What did it take me or even one of my colleagues getting involved to try and solve this issue? Where, clearly, we were capable of solving it, but we made it as hard as possible and as frustrating as possible. Let me also be clear, I don’t expect a perfect world, like if the expectation is of folks that engage with the public have a certain standard of engagement. I can’t if you have it. I think the other piece that’s missing is that folks feel that when they have a bad experience or they can’t get something done, they have no other recourse, so they do throw their hands up at it. And I want to change that as well, and be making it possible for when there’s an issue and you have a suggestion to make county government more accessible, more accountable, and better that you have an ear in the county to make sure that that’s an

Nestor Aparicio  37:45

opportunity to see an effort absolutely return the email that’s all return to call Casper Pat young he tries to return. Where’s your office? Your office, actually, we’re looking at right now, right by the fire station. The office used to be over here too,

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Pat Young  37:56

right? They still have a satellite office. They rotate staff through throughout the weekend.

Nestor Aparicio  38:01

All right. Well, um, thanks for coming on, man. Thanks for yelling me down at the beach and armory. Yeah, final thing, when the armor,

Pat Young  38:08

that’s right? No, no, yes. So we’re, we’re working for the which is great.

Nestor Aparicio  38:12

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Now, the cannabis thing was coming in, right? So that

Pat Young  38:15

I don’t want to go through the, I can go through the whole thing with you. We knew that the armory was going to be surplused when I was still in the legislature, and there were still soldiers there with the MP unit that were rotating through. The big question even then, was this, so this is five, five years ago, what’s gonna happen to the building? Oh, it’s gonna be surplus. And then in the surplus process, it’s offered to state agencies, it’s offered to local government, and if they say no, then it goes to the Clearinghouse list, where a private bidder can purchase it. So it had been toured through by UMBC and a few state agencies. They said no. It was toured through by local government, Rec and Parks, the police department, fire department, for potential use. And we had said no. And I heard about this sort of late in the process, saying, why did we say no? Like, it seems like a perfect opportunity to have, like, a public use right here, in location, location too, and we had lot this area had lost a community center back when the elementary school took over and was was rebuilt Catonsville. Catonsville elementary school so, but they said, because the price tag to not only purchase it, but also to renovate it to government standards and public standards was too high, and then it went down a rabbit hole trying to find out, well, what was the what was the number? Was the what was the number? Because everybody kept saying was too much, but nobody was giving me a number. Eventually came up with $11.5 million for purchase and for renovations because of asbestos, lead, mold, and since the building had been closed, multiple floods had happened in the basement. When the unit was there, they would also talk about floods that were happening there, but they were there but they were there to kind of bail out and do what they had to do. So it’d been sitting there deteriorating, and the price tag just kept getting worse. At that point, trying to get the state and county to kind of talk to each other fell through, and it sounded like they were just going to move towards putting on the surplus list. Then we had, we had, we had obtained 250 $1,000 from the state during the three years ago, during the budget process, specifically for the county to evaluate the building, because even the 11.5 was anecdotal. It was based on experience size issue. That means somebody’s really gonna pay for that or and honestly, it could was anywhere near worth you much? Yep, and you could make the argument that it might be a lot more or it might be a lot less, but nobody did an actual evaluation. So we got money for the county to do so, but in in that scenario, it only would happen if nobody purchased the building in between that we got the money, and then we had a the state had come up with their idea that they wanted to turn it into incubator. This is where the problem started, because there were 36 locations that were reviewed for potential incubator space, which was required by the updated cannabis law. But this wasn’t one of them. This wasn’t one that was reviewed in terms of the original like, looking at a space, I really do believe that they thought that they had, oh, a state building. It was recently surplused. We’re going to be able to walk in with minimal renovations and just and put in this incubator space. And when they came to me, they were pretty much saying what they were doing. And I was I asked, like, are you asking my permission? You tell me what you’re doing? They’re like, well, this is what the plan is. Okay. Well, how you gonna manage all of these things? Like, oh, we don’t think it’s gonna cost nearly as much. I’m like, have you been in it? And they hadn’t. The folks I had been talking to from the campus administration hadn’t been in there. So I was like, honestly, I don’t, from what they told me, I didn’t think it was gonna happen, because they knew Sue so little about the building. And also the neighborhood. I said, Well, if you really want to do this, you need to meet with the neighborhood yesterday and the community, especially the business community, you know, as soon as possible. And then they, they asked if I’d hold a meeting. I was like, Well, it’s, it’s not my building, it’s yours. So I would, I would start with the Chamber of Commerce and some and go from there and take suggestion, because they’re actively in this in this in this community, otherwise they’re gonna fight you, right? So, literally, right? You know the and that was the hope to try and prevent that by throw an idea out, like, engage with them about, it’s your property, this is what you’d like to do with it and see what gets back. And what they ended up doing was engaging with the Chamber of Commerce, who then tried to have a meeting with their their business members, which made it look like they were trying to have a private meeting, which then all of a sudden they sent it out to everyone, which made it seem like they were doing something below board or secretively, which they didn’t intend to. But that was the narrative that started. And then they had a meeting and honestly got their asses handed to them in terms of, like, what are you thinking? It’s by a school and all these things, which they acknowledged afterwards, we’re like, I think we got a lot of education work. You’re like, Yeah, I think you do. And this was right before the legislative session, with the expectation, they told me, and they told the state legislators that they were going to have multiple meetings before any before anything happened there. And then through the budget process, us getting called saying, hey, they’re trying to get money for a incubator project, but the only one that were, they’re working towards was the armory. So that indicated me like, well, they’re they’re getting money, but they haven’t had their public meetings yet. And then they wouldn’t commit to when they were having and said sometime after legislative session, like, all right, well, working with our state partners, Senator sidnore leaf McCaskill and sorry, Delegate Ruth, we got money in the budget to restrict funds until they had those public meetings. So we kind of left the session feeling like, Okay, we’ve got their feet held to the fire, requiring of report on the public meeting and public inputs related to what they want to do next. This is just due diligence, right? Trying to but then between then the in the capital budget for the money they got to renovate the building, it said construction to start July 2025, and to end July 2026 which the Sun reported out in July, or like right before July threw me off. I didn’t even know what said that either, because to a budget person who was on appropriations for eight years, that’s a fiscal year, that’s they needed to say something that they were active. But we knew they weren’t gonna I knew they weren’t gonna start anything because they hadn’t had bids out. There was no plan. Nobody knew what it looked like. You couldn’t even break can’t break ground with the state project. If you don’t know what the project if you don’t know what the building’s gonna look like or hadn’t been approved. So we knew nothing was gonna happen July 1, but the article made it seem like it was which then made everyone feel like they were lied to by the state, which then caused even more discern and distrust of what happened. So thanks the governor and listening to the community and listening to his professionals and the folks like us on the ground, just letting him know what that this one, it seemed to be like, executed inappropriately, or at least not engaged with enough to then have any kind of input. He decided to tank the project here. They have to build an incubator somewhere else, and then after that point, the state was out of it. They still, they still own it, and they have to move through their circles process. At that point, we needed to have a meeting, because it was no longer there was no longer a plan. Didn’t necessarily agree with the plan, but they had a plan they were moving forward with, and the state owned the building. It wasn’t local, but now it didn’t matter. At this point, we needed to inform folks of what was happening. So we had a, I’d say, two and a half months ago, we had a public input meeting at the library. Well attended, filled the filled the basement space, caught everyone up and like most things, and this is also part of the reason for running. I think some people showed up to the meeting expecting everyone to be as mad as they were, but the majority of folks showed up because they just want to know what’s going on. They just want to know what’s going. On. They had seen things and read things, and some things didn’t sound right. They just wanted someone, they wanted us and someone in authority to tell them what had happened. And we did that. And obviously there was disappointment from how long it took to get that information. But everyone left the meeting, and me included, hopeful of what happened next that we were now including everyone committed to another meeting, didn’t know what would be reported on at the next meeting that we had just, I think, two weeks ago, but in between, then, this group had stood up that of regular folks that showed up at the first meeting that were just concerned about the armory. They had had a meeting they invited me to and some of the elected officials about just what could happen next. That led to calming the state down, sorry, sorry, sorry, not counting it coming anybody down, but having them talk to each other, because at that point, it had just been through letters and social media intermediaries. So then finally, getting the county executive and the governor spokes to talk directly about what was going on, that there was public now, there was public interest in this, and how could we move it forward and work as a partner to figure out what happens next. So at this point, as stated at the last meeting, it’s not a done deal, because the county had backed off of their position of never taking it to potentially taking it as a pass through to another organization that we’ve identified through southwest visions who has experience with these kinds of things. We’re just at this point engaging with them to make sure that the liability piece, they don’t want to do that if they if the organization can’t handle it. So right now, we’re just absolutely right, and they can go through these, this process of public input, visioning, what it could be, what it can’t be, or what, you know, what it shouldn’t be, but based off of input that they’ve gotten through public interest meetings that they’ve conducted previously with other projects.

Nestor Aparicio  46:40

Well, this gets done quicker than like, let’s say the Inner Harbor has or harm. I would like, I think that’s that’d be a good standard, Nestor. Let’s all get together and figure this thing out. And we good thing is we’re all working together now, which we weren’t before. Councilman Pat Young is here. He’s working together with me at the Beaumont to get this show over with. It’s all brought to you by the Maryland lottery. You have Raven scratch off Stu and his buddies up here don’t know that, but I’m gonna give them some Raven scratch offs here. Hope we get a lucky batch here. It has been good visiting with you. Man, I love Catonsville. You know that? You know I next my wife think I screwed the pooch. I’m not getting the the lamb chops, but i i The lobster tail, but I’m telling you the secret, secret weapon here in Catonsville is the chicken tortilla soup. Up at El guapa. Get the chicken tortilla soup at El guapa. That’s all I’m telling you. A little bit of avocado in there and a little bit of that sour cream in there. And the tortillas, right? Perfect for me. Thanks for coming out, man. I appreciate it. And good luck to you. Nestor from the running for county executive. Everybody the timeline, because everybody, yeah, primary and all that

Pat Young  47:40

stuff. So primary is June 2026, and the general election will be in November. So we’re roughly nine months out from the from the primary, getting there, right? Yeah, yes, sir.

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Nestor Aparicio  47:52

It’s either it’s kind of like with construction or construction season with roads. It’s either election season or it’s election season, right, right, right. And even being

Pat Young  47:59

out now, folks are all like, it’s that far out, like it’s that far out, like there’s not a lot of times gonna fly by, and we’re dedicated to meeting as many people as we can.

Nestor Aparicio  48:07

I like to get out of the front of it, just to learn the issues. I mean, I know, yeah, listen. I mean, I’ve spent an hour with you, an hour with Izzy, an hour with Julian, an hour with David Marks, who isn’t running. I spent an hour with Nick, who is all of you talking about same, you know, like the aging population and infrastructure May in the same areas in town centers. And it’s important to remedy to your point, I don’t hear anybody else talking about this stuff. That’s true. So I mean, I do appreciate you coming out, and without you, I don’t get the wisdom in the extra expertise. So Councilman Pat young, thanks for your service as well. As always, I know we talked about that as well. Life is great out here in the 21228, Luke is out in Owings Mills, also a Baltimore County outpost. We have talked about another mall location, Owings Mills, as well as Hunt Valley towns. You’re big County. I don’t know what to say. Pat wants to run it. You can vote for him. You can get all his information and find it out. Great Councilman out here in the southwest side of town. Love having the electives on, yeah, man, like having the elected officials on. We’re doing sports. We’re getting ready for football. For football. Luke’s out knowing smells. If you want breaking news, it happens first on the W, N, S, T, tech service. It’s all brought to you by our friends at cold roofing and Gordian energy. Also want to thank our friends at GBMC for sponsoring us and getting me 56 I’m getting my first colonoscopy next month. I had to schedule this. I’ve been telling people to get it for 30 years, and I haven’t gotten so now, well, now you put your money where your mouth is right. Social media, I will not be pictures. I promise that’s not going to be crazy, but getting the word out. Fingers crossed. You know, I hear polyps and all. I don’t want to hear about any of that. I just want to hear about. All I want to do is get ready for a nice little Super Bowl run for the Raven. That’s what I’m doing here. Doing here. All right, back for more. We’re in Catonsville. We are W, N, S T A of 1570 Towson, Baltimore. We never stopped talking Baltimore positive. So.