Dyer discusses Baltimore County Executive job and campaign

Republican candidate for Baltimore County Executive Patrick Dyer tells Nestor why he’s running for Baltimore County Executive at Costas Inn at Timonium Racetrack on the Maryland Crab Cake Tour as we prepare for state wide primary elections on June 23rd here in Maryland.

Patrick Dyer, a Republican candidate for Baltimore County Executive, discussed his background, including his involvement in community organizations like the Associated Italian American Charities and the Hibernian Society of Baltimore. Dyer emphasized his business experience, education, and commitment to addressing crime, education, and business growth. He criticized the current county administration for its lack of accountability and transparency, particularly regarding the county’s budget and police force. Dyer highlighted his plans to attract businesses, improve public safety, and retain educated individuals within the county. He also addressed concerns about ICE activities in the county and stressed the importance of voter turnout in the upcoming primary.

• [ ] Submit a formal resume to the voters of Baltimore County outlining qualifications and platform as part of the campaign outreach.
• [ ] Set up a tax and business-permit task force located outside the office and staff it to help prospective businesses start operations quickly and transparently.
• [ ] Actively drive the campaign message and support the existing plan to increase voter turnout for upcoming elections.

Introduction and Initial Greetings

• Nestor Aparicio welcomes listeners to WNST 1570 AM and mentions various sponsors and guests present at the event.
• Nestor talks about the Maryland lottery package he received and mentions giving a ticket to Vicki Franz.
• Nestor introduces Patrick Dyer, who he met six months ago at Pappas, and mentions other guests like Steve and Justin.
• Nestor discusses his Italian heritage and his grandfather’s service in World War II.

Patrick Dyer’s Background and Involvement in Community Organizations

• Nestor recounts his experience at the Italian American Charities (AIC) event, where he met Patrick Dyer.
• Patrick Dyer talks about his involvement in the Hibernian Society of Baltimore and receiving the Hibernian of the Year award.
• Patrick explains his business background, starting at T Rowe Price and later starting his own investment brokerage firm.
• Nestor and Patrick discuss their mutual involvement in community organizations and the importance of philanthropy.

Patrick Dyer’s Campaign for Baltimore County Executive

• Nestor mentions Patrick’s announcement of his campaign for Baltimore County Executive at the AIC event.
• Patrick discusses his platform, emphasizing accountability to taxpayers and the need for new ideas and energy in county government.
• Patrick highlights his business degree and experience in bringing people together to solve problems.
• Nestor and Patrick discuss the importance of attracting businesses and improving the county’s economy.

Challenges and Opportunities in Baltimore County

• Nestor and Patrick discuss the challenges facing Baltimore County, including crime, education, and business growth.
• Patrick emphasizes the need for more police officers and better resources for law enforcement.
• Nestor and Patrick talk about the importance of retaining educated individuals in the county and the impact of state taxes on residents.
• Patrick outlines his plan to attract businesses and improve the county’s infrastructure and services.

Patrick Dyer’s Personal Connection to Baltimore County

• Patrick shares his personal connection to Baltimore County, including his family’s history and contributions to the community.
• Nestor and Patrick discuss the importance of community involvement and the role of local businesses in the county’s success.
• Patrick talks about his experiences delivering newspapers as a child and the changes in the newspaper industry over the years.
• Nestor and Patrick discuss the impact of technology, including AI, on business and government operations.

Patrick Dyer’s Campaign Strategy and Upcoming Events

• Patrick outlines his campaign strategy, including door-knocking, community events, and fundraising.
• Nestor and Patrick discuss the importance of voter turnout and the role of primary elections in shaping the county’s future.
• Patrick mentions his upcoming fundraiser on May 14 and encourages listeners to support his campaign.
• Nestor and Patrick discuss the importance of transparency and accountability in government and the challenges faced by the current county administration.

Final Thoughts and Closing Remarks

• Nestor and Patrick discuss the importance of community engagement and the role of local media in shaping public opinion.
• Patrick emphasizes his commitment to solving the county’s problems and improving the quality of life for residents.
• Nestor thanks Patrick for his participation and encourages listeners to support his campaign.
• The conversation concludes with Nestor promoting the Maryland lottery and upcoming guests on the show.

SUMMARY KEYWORDS

Baltimore County Executive, Patrick Dyer, Republican values, crime problem, education, business growth, community engagement, primary election, voter turnout, county government, transparency, ICE issues, immigration, philanthropy, campaign strategy.

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SPEAKERS

Speaker 1, Nestor Aparicio

Nestor Aparicio  00:00

Welcome home. We are W N, S T am 1570 task, Baltimore. We are Baltimore, positive, positively out here at cost is in continue our conversation. My thanks to Carson caminous for stopping by, as well as Vicki Franz and we’ve had visitors here from OJ bergansis foundation that was drew van land. Him always good to visit with, with him and hear about the Brigance brigade. We’re promoting Maryland lottery. Our friends at GBMC, as well as farming and Dermer. They are the comfort guys. Getting comfortable. It’s about 90 degrees today, as we tape this year to be 50 by the time you hear it. Maryland lottery gives me the Maryland treasures summer package here boardwalk in Ocean City. I got the key the Bay Bridge to go over two strands as well as Blackwater. And I got, I gave Vicki the horses. I don’t know which one of these tickets Patrick Dyer is gonna take for me, but I met Patrick about six months ago, up at Pappas, another great crab cake up there. And hello to Steve and Justin and all them. I was invited to the give me the right Italian associated chair,

01:02

associated Italian American,

Nestor Aparicio  01:03

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associated Italian

01:05

they go by aiac.

Nestor Aparicio  01:06

Aiac, most

01:08

philanthropic charities on the East Coast. Yeah, I

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Nestor Aparicio  01:11

watched you guys find out where all the money was going. I attended the meeting. There were minutes and a lot of Italian guys, and I was the president. Well, I got invited because your your communications chief the downtown lawyers. Mike right. Michael Shaw, yeah. Mike, good man, he reached to me after I did the show at the pasquale’s last summer, and I had not done the show at the pasquale’s ever. And Joe did the show and and Dom as well. And I mentioned that my grandfather was Italian, came from the old country, served in World War Two under age at that time, you know, and came to America and Philadelphia and all this Italian stuff. And he wrote me beautiful note. And I’ve never, I’ve always thought of being Venezuelan, because my father’s Venezuelan, right, and Aparicio, but I am Italian, you know, I guess that’s why I made it in sunshine yesterday. Got my holiday skin, and they invited me out to speak, and I didn’t know what to expect. And I talked to Mike a few times, and this was a very formal thing, like I was supposed to do it at Libra Tories in September, and I couldn’t make the night. Like I had a conflict that night with the scheduling thing. And I said, I’ll do it later. And I wound up with you at Pappas at night, and you gave me a bottle of wine, and you told me you’re running for county executive, and I didn’t know if you were Democrat or Republican, then I realized I was the only Democrat in the room that you’ll dispute that, but there were about 100 120 people in the room that night, and you guys were all fighting it out about where the money was going and this and that and this charity, and everybody has to stand up and give a Speech. It’s Italian. So I came at the end when the crab cakes came out. But you like, that’s a serious organization, so I met you through that. And you’re like, you’re running for office, but part of that is, you’ve been involved in a community organization for a long time, most definitely.

02:54

And thank you for coming that evening. We enjoyed

Nestor Aparicio  02:57

your presence. Well, I I didn’t think at the time you all enjoyed me,

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run into people. A lot of good things to say.

Nestor Aparicio  03:03

Well, a lot of people came up to me afterward, wrote me notes. And it was a very memorable night in a lot of ways, coming in because a lot of people that were listeners, I knew a lot of people in the room that I wasn’t expecting to see that night in that way. And then I met some new people that can take us on the show, give me wine. Well, at the end

Speaker 1  03:18

of the day, we at Christmas time we we had our scholarship dinner. We awarded 21 scholars. They all got a scholarship. And almost 100 charities got received money. And I had the fortune to stand on the stage, shake everybody’s hand and see what difference and give money and give money well, I mean, since almost 20 years, 20 years, and, you know, I’m not Italian, right? You’re not Italian. No, I was elected president, and I’m not Italian. That says something, right? I was a Democrat.

Nestor Aparicio  03:51

They invited me over speak. I’m like, good. You know this, I’m an Irish guy. Dire, you got to be Irish, right?

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Speaker 1  03:59

I’m Irish, of course, I was also president of the Hibernian Society of Baltimore, founded in 1803, just recently received the Hibernian of the year. So that was,

Nestor Aparicio  04:09

I don’t know anything about the Hibernians.

Speaker 1  04:11

That’s It’s Latin for Ireland. That’s what the Hibernian means. Okay, just another great group of philanthropic gentlemen around Baltimore, in this Baltimore County community, the same thing, scholarship and charity. That’s what they thrive on. So your main

Nestor Aparicio  04:25

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business, though, is money, right? Yes, sir, yes.

Speaker 1  04:27

I have an investment brokerage firm. I started my career at T Rowe Price, and then obviously learned from the best and started my own firm, and I’ve been doing it for a while, and so I’ve been very fortunate.

Nestor Aparicio  04:38

Well, you’re running for county executive? Yes, I met Pat about six months ago, so pub, late October, maybe, and you gave me a bottle of wine. I gave a long, rambling Angelo spiotti media Trump thing and Justin Tucker too. Oh, a lot of just Tucker that night, because I had been here. I had like, a. Right in this space. I had a couple dudes here, OTB, and they heard me talk about Justin Tucker, and they came over. They got in the shot right here, screaming at me and Raskin, who’s a crazy Republican like you, and we were fighting about all this, and these guys came over, leave Justin Tucker alone. I’m like, and I said that that night, and I, by the way, the next guest I have is Chris Korman, who’s a sports editor of the Baltimore banner who broke that story and wrote about that story, and the one thing he’ll be proud of this because I promoted his business that night, I said, How many of you have actually read the stories about Tucker? And I think three hands went up of 100 guys. And I’m like, You’re not even reading the journalism, but you all have an opinion about it, and I think that that’s where we are in America. And that doesn’t speak to whether you’re running for county executive or county council, or whether you’re just a citizen voting for one of you, and I’m going to vote for one of you, right? Nick Stewart’s been on the show. Julian’s been on the show as he’s been on the show. Pat young, anybody else out there running for county executive? I’ve invited you on two or three times. I’m glad you’re here. I’ve invited Ed Hale on, who I’ve known for a million years, who’s running for governor. I’m not anti Republican. I’m anti Trump. I voted for Republicans in my life. I’ve had Bob Ehrlich on. I was, you know, I listen. I had David Marx on three weeks ago. I like bipartisan conversation about, I don’t know anything about your politics other than there’s an R in front of your name. I know a lot about Ed Hales politics, as I know Ed well intimately that he was a Democrat is running as Republican. Where do you come on all this tree? Because you’re you manage money. Chances are you’re a Republican. And that’s not me making judgments.

Speaker 1  06:36

That’s just the fact. Well, I’m a Republican, sure, and I’m a proud Republican, Republican Party, and I believe in just Republican values, which is of responsibility, accountability, education and and crime and low crime. That’s that’s the that’s where I stand on different policies. What’s wrong

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Nestor Aparicio  06:57

with the county now, as you see it, tell me how the county is going to be different with the Republican because we have not had a lot of county executives have

Speaker 1  07:05

been Republican around. There’s been, there’s been, it’s been 40 years. It’s been an awful long time. I think we’re at a crossroads. We definitely need a change in county government, and we’ve had and when you have the same party in power for such a long time. I think it breeds the inability to make tough decisions. Also think it forgets about who there was, who pays the bills in this county, the taxpayer. And that’s what I want, accountability to the taxpayer. That’s who, in a sense, I’m working for. So that’s what I think I can bring change to the county simply by bringing in new people. There’s so many energized individuals that I’ve talked to all have fresh ideas about about the crime policy, about education, about business, and I plan to bring the best around from Baltimore County in to solve our problems. One thing about me, I do have a business degree from University of Baltimore, Master. Do you be I have a master’s from University of Baltimore. I have a business degree from Loyola University. One thing in business that’s taught me is to bring people together. Got to bring people together to solve problems. We’ve been dealing with the same problems for a long time. It’s time for a different approach to solve these problems. I’m going to bring that to the table. So I’ve

Nestor Aparicio  08:20

been doing this long enough that Johnny o came on, and I laugh about a little bit because I interviewed him in a little room about eight years ago when after Don Muller ran the county had Carson here when his dad passed away, that I’m third cycle now through this and Al redmer and I have become, not become Friends. We’ve always he was a sponsor of mine 15 years ago, telling me that Republicans were going to run the state at some point, and he was involved with Hogan. And I’ve known al a million years, and I see Al and Mako every year. And obviously he works in state government at this point, so his role in coming on the show would be different than as a political candidate. But I remember sitting with him in his office right here, right behind here, at high tops. He had his political office him in Hannah Marr eight years ago, and talking about the future of the county and what he was running on at a time when Trump was in office at the time, and I was very disgruntled about it. Then I’m more discouraged about Republican politics and who’s running your party. That’s not of America as I see it, or American values of the constitution. So I really have a hard time in discussing Democrat and Republican when I’m really not discussing Democrat and Republican in the Ronald Reagan way, or in the pub Ehrlich way, or the way that has been sane for me. Is there anything about Trump that you think’s gone a little too far?

Speaker 1  09:48

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Well, let’s start with the Trump situation. I mean, I know there’s, we have an R in front of you, yes, and now he’s been labeled, but I’m not labeled how it is. Yeah, the only person that I. I’ve allowed to label me as my parents, and I’ll, yeah, I’ll stick to what I believe in. And Donald Trump does. He did have some ideas that resonate with the Republican Party, and that’s just the fact. What are the

Nestor Aparicio  10:15

ones that you subscribe to? What are policies he’s had, or ideologies he’s had that you adopt, or that you reject, or is there nothing you reject?

Speaker 1  10:24

I think in terms of what I just laid out, the crime problem needs to be solved. I think I does believe. He believes in education. We need a strong education. I think he’s a good he’s a business guy. He wants. He understands that in order to get this economy moving, you need to have strong business policies. So you need to have a government that enables people to start their own business, help them out, because that, that’s the engine that drives this economy. So those parts of his platform, I fully agree with, well, when

Nestor Aparicio  10:59

I talk to Republicans, or even my money people, Leonard Raskin, who, by the way, has been under the weather, and he’s traveling right now. He’ll be back on, we’ll fight again later. We’ve done that in this seat, the notion that managing the budget, managing money in this state specifically. And listen, I can’t pay for Wes Moore. I haven’t seen him in three years, so I’m not on my show anyway. So I’m, you know, if Ed wants to come on and give his policies, that’s fine. I like hearing all sides of it, but the notion that the Republican Party and the money side of this, and the fiscal side of it, when it comes to Maryland, you manage money. Brian billicks, one of my partners here, he left the state as a resident. And a lot of rich people, or people that are going to give money their children leave the state because of estate taxes, because of the tax situation we talk about owning a place in Delaware versus Maryland. Part of that is just a state issue as well for the county. Right, as a county executive, as somebody here managing money, you see people who have accumulated money, who feel like they need to leave the state, let alone the county. And the biggest problem that I’ve had, and all the Democrats that I’ve had on, whether it’s Nick Stewart or Julian Jones, is the flight of the county, that the county is shrinking in some way that would subscribe to your side to say there are problems in the county when people are leaving it, when it’s not growing. And that’s something that I heard from Johnny oh eight years ago, and even al redmer, that we can’t have a better tax base by having people leave our county. We need to grow our county. And that’s I’m speaking to a Republican issue. I think at that right, of course,

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Speaker 1  12:37

I mean, and people are fleeing this county and state for places like Florida, and they only have to be gone for six months to become Florida residents, so they could reside in Baltimore County, enjoy the benefits of Baltimore County. Florida is their home. They pay no state taxes, and the savings to them are enormous, and it’s extremely detrimental to Baltimore county, state of Maryland, and we need to wake up, or more people are going to be leaving this state. And it comes down to a lot of different reasons. We’re talking about the executive position. It is a it is an executive position. Baltimore County is a huge business. You need business guys that that have some experience to be able to run this business. Like I said, I’m used to bringing people together, making a difference. We need a business approach, because at the end of the day, people can, businesses included, can walk with their feet. They don’t they’re like, Hey, I don’t want to deal with these problems. They don’t stick. They don’t stick around that. They’ll pack up and leave. And how can you can’t stop them. So that’s very important, and I so my platform, what I’m going to focus from day one, is we need to solve certain problems. I look at it like a stool. We got three legs. They all have to work together. We need to shine Baltimore County up so someone from outside the county versus leaving is looking, hey, where do I want to move? What part, what part of the, you know, the East Coast appeals to me? Well, I

Nestor Aparicio  14:03

live in Baltimore County. I own a business in Baltimore County. Was educated in Baltimore County. I went to Baltimore County Public Schools. I went to Baltimore County when I have Dr Kurt Knight is on. I went to Dundalk community college now, CCBC. So, I mean, this is my county too. I mean, Mike Bennett told us on, you know, through

Speaker 1  14:22

all of this, I started in the county as a paper boy right down the street. Which paper delivered the news, American, hey, I picked my newspapers up at the at the local Dunkin Donuts right down the street. You could throw a rock and hit the Dunkin Donuts. It wasn’t the best place stack. They were all stacked up.

Nestor Aparicio  14:41

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I had to cut the cut the wire devastation wagon, like when they had a bike. All right,

Speaker 1  14:45

that was the thing I was I was so excited to buy my Schwinn bike, and I still have it. My wife’s like, what

Nestor Aparicio  14:51

year is this that you were delivering?

14:52

Probably in this late 70s.

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Nestor Aparicio  14:54

70s. I started working at the paper in 84 so,

Speaker 1  14:57

and I had to do so. I delivered my newspaper. Dollars. I had the routes all up and down here. Ridgely Road, Belfast Road, Cinder. This is all my clients, every one of them. And I’d have to go with my little punch book and collect from at the end of the day something, I delivered

Nestor Aparicio  15:13

the Dundalk Eagle when I was there you go. I was just trying to get five bucks a week. So I go roller skating to chase girls. That’s literally I was, I want to go to skate land. That was it,

Speaker 1  15:21

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but it was a good it was good. You know, you don’t see kids driving around with big bags delivering the newspapers in the rain. You know, it just doesn’t happen that way anymore.

Nestor Aparicio  15:30

You know, you and I began our conversation the banner Chris Corman is coming by later on, just about how the newspaper shaped information and education, I think, for all of us, right, like all all guys our age, read a newspaper back then, I don’t know what we’re reading now,

Speaker 1  15:47

I’m telling you, know, I used to love to deliver those newspapers. I had ink all over my hands. Smelled good, too. It smelled good and and when I wash my hands and I’d see the black ink go down the drain, I knew how much money I made, because I have to touch every newspaper. But to this day, I still get all the newspapers. I get the Sun paper. I read them all.

Nestor Aparicio  16:07

My wife, you read an actual

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Speaker 1  16:08

hard paper. I get a hard paper. I’m probably the only one on my block that gets a hard paper delivered to their house. My wife is,

Nestor Aparicio  16:15

well, that’s, that’s not at, you know, that’s, I read it.

Speaker 1  16:19

I read it. I love the information. And it’s, maybe

Nestor Aparicio  16:23

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it’s just, have you done anything in the AI space at all? I’ve gotten very, very heavily in the AI since I’ve met you. Amazing. I mean, I met you in October. I took my first AI class November 11, and it’s been, I don’t know, I’m open minded about a lot of things and communicating. So I was the first adopter with Twitter and Facebook and all of those things that felt even my wife being a Verizon engineer, to be able to surf the web early on. I’m a news freak, man. You know what I mean? Like, I’m a I worked at the News America. I was 15 years old. I’m a journalist. I’m a news hound. So yes, you know anything that gets me into a space that makes things more efficient? Oh, right. I mean, that’s AI. To me, there are efficiencies involved in that that I don’t know that the world is ready for.

Speaker 1  17:12

Quite yet. What’s happening? You’re seeing layoffs in major corporations, and they, they’re saying, ai, ai. It’s, it’s extremely helpful. It’s, there’s no doubt about in terms of lining out your schedule, analyzing your emails. It can be, I’m wondering how government’s

Nestor Aparicio  17:27

going to be able to use it, and that if you’re elected county executive, by the way, Pat Dyer is my guest. He is a Republican Baltimore county executive. I met him at the associated Italian chair AIC. I’m getting it right,

17:39

Italian American charities. Okay, all right, that’s close enough this

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Nestor Aparicio  17:47

guy, and he’s running the Italian, more Italian, but I gave speech, and you gave me a bottle of wine, and it took me six months to get you out here to talk about these issues. But first off, the elections, June, 23 and I had to look that up back in January, because I’m used to primaries being in

18:01

April, right? 68 days coming.

Nestor Aparicio  18:03

All right, so this the first time you’ve ever run for anything.

Speaker 1  18:07

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No, actually, I ran for a delicate position years and years ago.

Nestor Aparicio  18:10

But what have you learned about the running for a modern office? And I’ve had a lot of the Democratic candidates on. I don’t even know who the other Republican candidates are. I’ve had al redmer on years ago and all that. Tell me about the race a little bit, and what this is like for you to door knock.

Speaker 1  18:25

Well, it’s, it’s energizing. It really is. And I’ve gone and so many people, and I tell them what my platform is, and they’re, they’re energized. They’re energized. Just my friends at Pat

Nestor Aparicio  18:36

Dyer calm I’ve had, I’ve had

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Speaker 1  18:38

someone from the opposing party who’s running came up and thanked me. He said, Thank you for running. He was sincere. He just, we need, we need people to run. This is, this is what it’s all about, putting your name out there.

Nestor Aparicio  18:51

That is democracy. My man Exactly.

Speaker 1  18:53

And what I’m going to do is I’m submitting my resume to the to the voters of Baltimore County, and I’m asking them to to to hire me for this job, to be the next Baltimore County Executive. That’s what I’m going to do now. I’ve enjoyed going around the community. I’ve been we’ve got a festival coming up in North Point. That’s next weekend.

Nestor Aparicio  19:15

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That’s my part of the world.

Speaker 1  19:17

Yeah, north point out that Dr, Frank’s a great guy, so he’s I love North Point. I love going to Catonsville. Catonsville, my in laws are there at Charlestown. My brother in laws in Catonsville. I enjoy going to all these different pockets of the community. I love Glenn, his Reisterstown historic Glendon. My grandfather went to Franklin in in Reisterstown. Glendon and his grandfather, my great grandfather, Patrick Dyer, donated all the land that now sits Sacred Heart church. So the years ago, you know, the local community said, Hey, we don’t want to continue to walk to these different churches downtown. So he said, Hey, I’ll give you the land. So they constructed the church, and that’s why there’s Dyer. Avenue Dyer and Wabash is in Glendon. Okay, named after, yeah, named after my family. Of course,

Nestor Aparicio  20:06

that’s right by San Tony’s up area.

Speaker 1  20:08

Yes, you got it. He’s, yeah, right there. And then John Barrett

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Nestor Aparicio  20:13

still has the restaurant up there. I think it’s

Speaker 1  20:15

great part of town, historic Linden. It’s just a wonderful so I’m getting around communities. I think it’s important to visit all the different pockets where the voters are. If this county has so much to offer. I mean, we got the largest estuary in the United States, just Chesapeake Bay.

Nestor Aparicio  20:35

We have more water from anyone anywhere.

Speaker 1  20:38

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So that’s what it gets. That’s what gets me going, because people should be staying. We have such an attractive jewel just needs to be shined up so we attract people.

Nestor Aparicio  20:47

I feel that way about the city too. I mean, I feel that way about the whole region, the whole state. I mean, I give these tickets out Maryland treasures. And I think about America and microcosm that Maryland is with mountains and beaches and cities and just all of that, of course, yeah, and but Baltimore County and Mueller really impressed this upon me after Kevin died when he ran the county. It’s just how, how powerful a municipality Baltimore County is that if it were city, it’d be huge, but losing population. I’m from the East side, so the schools getting rebuilt. Crime, we talked about traffic issues in the county and all that. What do you hear from a complaint standpoint, cost of living, we talk about flight from the county.

Speaker 1  21:31

Well, the complaint is a crime problem. Okay, there’s a huge crime problem, in my opinion, and we’re down officers. How can you run a business and the county is a business, and you’re short

Nestor Aparicio  21:44

a lot of candidates. Is as big a problem as the budget. I think, right, they

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Speaker 1  21:49

can’t even, I was reading an article just recently. They can’t even just, I can’t even get a true, there’s not a true asset allocation of how many people they’re they’re actually down. I mean, I’ve heard several 100, but when you

Nestor Aparicio  22:02

don’t have the what’s ideal, if you’re

Speaker 1  22:04

county executive, I think they’re down 400 people. So we need 400 officers. We need 400 officers, additional officers in in the service. So I have friends of mine. They’re on the SWAT team. Every time I talked with them, they’re bleary eyed, they’re exhausted, and they tell me their complaints, and it’s maddening to hear what they’re telling me. It really is under my watch, these guys are going to be rested and ready to go, and I think that’s very important. I think the number one job as county executive is your safety, and that’s what I’m that’s what it’s going to that’s what’s going to happen under my watch. You’re running a

Nestor Aparicio  22:42

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running on crime. As

Speaker 1  22:45

I said there, I said earlier, there’s, it’s a stool. There’s three legs to it. Education and business. We need those three areas

Nestor Aparicio  22:55

of is that luring business? Is that making it more attractive? Yes, you hear complaints.

Speaker 1  22:59

Nestor, here you hear complaints about permits. I mean, I’ve been hearing that throughout the permits. Why does it take so long? I’m going to set up a tax Task Force right right outside my office, and we’re going to man it. And if you come to this county and you want to start a business, my hat’s off too. If you risk your money and you’re going to risk your reputation. You’re going to risk what you have to start a business. I’m all on board. I’m going to uncover any opportunity the county has to make it a go for you. I’ll do everything in my power to make sure you’re a successful business, because that is key. We need those we need the ingenuity. Need the jobs and we need the revenue. It just makes a lot of sense. We have great schools

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Nestor Aparicio  23:43

in a county to be able to keep people here once they’re educated. That for me, retention of people when they come to Baltimore, most not they’re gonna come and go to college and go back to New Jersey or whatever, right? Oh, I

Speaker 1  23:53

was at a an event for loyal college just the other evening, a for the people that helped Loyola College out, and the students were saying the same thing. They’re trying to get jobs at Baltimore County. I said, What happens if you don’t get this job? They’ll move on. They’re highly trained. We need them to stay right here, all that brain power and all that hard work. We need to retain Nestor coming to this county to work and get educated. And they take off and they leave. That’s that shouldn’t happen. Well, I haven’t left.

Nestor Aparicio  24:21

I’m absolutely I haven’t left. I’m left. Patrick Dyer, you can find it Friends of Pat Dyer, calm, I’m out on the website. It’s green, so little part of Italian and raised the Baltimore County husband, father, social entrepreneur, business owner, spent his life in Baltimore County working with very and I met him through a charitable organization associated Italian American charities. And you can learn more here, and you can give him money, as we all do. I told Carson, I’m like, I’ll give you love and not money, you know, like all that. For all you guys, I want you to speak from the right side of the aisle on the county and the decision made by the seven councilmen to in. Power the current county executive, which I, I’m My mind is blown that we couldn’t find a better candidate, but I start to think about they did not want that candidate to run, and I’ve had Barry Williams on the show and other candidates who put their name in the hat to be the short term two year county executive. Look, you got to win your own election on the Republican side in order to be in the general later on in the year. But how do you feel about the decision was made that was bipartisan, right? For three, Democrat, Republican. It’s not like we don’t have Republican representation. I went to middle school with Todd Crandall. I mean, I’ve known Todd for 45 years, right? Been on my show many times before. He had his issues over there a couple there a couple years ago. I have not had the county of the Republican that does the north county never met him, though. Koco, yeah, wait, wait, I don’t sure never met him in my life. So some people, Well, everybody’s invited. This is Baltimore, positive. You come on anytime you want. I appreciate you picking that up. But like, I am a Democrat, who, I would say a Johnny o Democrat, but certainly I thought the county was better run under Johnny o than where we are at this point. And I’ve had Al, I told you, Al’s my friend having him on. I don’t know how this decision came about, and certainly what the issues have been the last year, year and a half, but I’m, I’m very disenfranchised at the way the seven members handled this, not to mention the other shenanigans that have gone on here. I feel like County’s getting some shenanigan reputation, and I don’t like that. I don’t like that at all.

Speaker 1  26:34

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So I’m all about transparency, and we can’t really get straight answers out of what’s going on with the county.

Nestor Aparicio  26:39

First, I feel that. I feel that way.

Speaker 1  26:41

She had the IG that left, and that was, nobody really knows why she left. Me, told she was highly qualified, and she went to another county. So that was something, somewhat there was controversy around

Nestor Aparicio  26:53

that that I haven’t gotten to the bottom of either

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Speaker 1  26:54

as a citizen journalist, why don’t we know? I mean, from what the my friends there, I don’t like secrecy in government, exactly, why don’t we? Why don’t we have an answer? Then you have the the expansion of the councilmatic districts now, now it’s up to nine, and I don’t know if that the they got what they were looking for in terms of the adding the new council districts. Think about it. You had a you had you had council people that were earning half of what they’re going to be earning, yet they’ve got a reduction in work, the work they’re going to be doing, by 20% so you’ve got more counsel, counsel, men and women.

Nestor Aparicio  27:31

You theoretically that should be good.

27:33

Theoretically, theoretically good. But think about

Nestor Aparicio  27:35

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it’s like having a teacher where there’s 40 kids in a classroom versus 25 that’s the way I think about true,

Speaker 1  27:41

but if they were constituents, if they were, yes, of course, and it’s very important, but you know, you got, you’re gonna have, you got to think about the budget too. Now you’ve got, you’ve got more pay, and you have, you’ve got staff. And I’m hearing this from both sides. This is, this is this is bipartisan.

Nestor Aparicio  28:01

It’s not like everybody’s a Democrat or nobody’s a Republican, right. But now you’re

Speaker 1  28:05

going to have additional resources that, you know, if every council person is going to have a staff, so it’s going to be expensive. So we got to, we got it back to what I’m saying. We need businesses. We need, we need growth to fund this. I mean, we got to remember it’s taxpayers that are picking up the tab. So that’s very important. So, like I said, we’ve had, there’s been some other issues, you know, within the county council

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Nestor Aparicio  28:28

that, well, the pension thing was, was good.

Speaker 1  28:32

Pension was that was not good. That was a whopper. That was a whopper. And that and saddling, you’re saddling the county. You’re saddling my children with, with obligations, you know, down the line, I think that’s unconscionable. That’s a lot of money. And if we like, I said it’s, it’s, it was too they felt bad about it. So obviously, I believe it’s been that’s been retracted.

Nestor Aparicio  28:58

So here’s one thing that I have not discussed with any candidate that I probably should put it on my front list, which is, how many people actually vote in a in a primary that would affect you, right? Like, so I’m a Democrat. I can’t

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vote for you, right? Switch

Nestor Aparicio  29:14

that there’s zero chance of ever becoming a Republican after watching the shit show that this criminal running the country so just every minute of every day, just he’s a criminal. But that wouldn’t stop me from voting for you if I believed in you in a general election. And it wouldn’t stop me maybe from voting for you if the current county executive were actually running and she were your competitor, I have no idea what’s going to happen on the Democratic side. Nick Stewart was invited out today. He’s going to join me. I’ve had Julian on, I’ve had Izzy on, I haven’t had Pat young on. A little period of time, they were the people involved, by and large, in making this county executive happen that I’m very disgruntled about. So I’m open minded. In the same way I was open minded when Al redmer knew I probably wasn’t voting for him, but I wanted to hear what his ideas were eight years ago. I feel the same way. Because, like, you have the opportunity to win me and my audience over today, that if someone wins on the Democratic side that I don’t feel good about I then have to consider, like, what’s best for county government, not saying, well, dyers with Trump, therefore f him like I’m not going to do that. I’m going to vote for the best person. I have a Democrat now in county government that I’m that I’m not. I have a Democrat in running the state who I supported at Costas, who doesn’t come on and be accountable to me. So I’m I have as much disgruntled this with Democrats as I do with Trump, in a general sense. But for you, with Republicans in turning out and you winning in June, same for the Democrats, all of them, you need people to want to come out and vote right and mail in and easy and where we are and what precinct you’re voting at, and all that turnout for the whole of America. For all of this is how we got Trump involved, like if people actually voted in this country? I spent two and a half weeks in South America, and the conversations that I had with South American people, I went to seven countries. I sat in Ubers and talked to people as best my crappy Spanish would allow. But any of them that spoke English to some degree didn’t matter what their politics were. They were anti Trump because Trump’s a clown, but what they talked to me about was the power of the value of an American vote. That I had five or six different people say to me, you’re an American. Do you know how important your vote is? But for all of us, for us in Peru and in Uruguay and in Colombia, that America is well run and well represented, because we have the most powerful vote in

Speaker 1  31:51

the world. I was out with my sons, and I saw an old gentleman who were he was struggling, and I went to help him, and he goes, you’re an American, aren’t you? I said, Yes, I’m a proud American. So each other, I will help you.

Nestor Aparicio  32:05

That’s what we should be. That’s what this is supposed to be about. Of course, whether I agree with you or don’t agree with you, I’m not here to be punitive to a democrat or republican that’s trying to make my county better, trying to make crime better, trying to make schools better,

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Speaker 1  32:16

any business, any businessman knows you need to bring people together. There’s a lot of problems in this county that have not budged. So you need to sit down and talk to people. I was talking with people in the school board, and they’re saying, hey, we need somebody that will listen to us. The problems are solvable. I’m used. I’m one of six kids. I’m right in the middle. I’m usually solving, fixing something.

Nestor Aparicio  32:39

Even to this day, you’re the Jan Brady family.

Speaker 1  32:41

Yes, even to this day. You know,

Nestor Aparicio  32:46

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people know June 23 is a day I think that that part of my citizen we need everybody I have an FCC license, as long as Trump doesn’t come and take him, because I’m Venezuela, but that’s all.

Speaker 1  32:57

This is nice, but like, vote and vote if you know, I don’t say this is not important, because, like you just said, your listeners, I respect

Nestor Aparicio  33:07

you, but in order for me to ever be able to vote for you, you need to get through the primary and win your primary. And that really isn’t even speaking to Democrats. That’s speaking to Republicans. I mean, what’s your message to them about getting you into that seat at this point and your competition. And more than that, the notion that their primary vote matters, right? There are a lot of people in this country has come out and vote for president. We don’t have enough to do that, sure, but these primary elections, this is where boots on the street, your local tax dollars, your schools, your crime, your transportation, the things that are happening in and around the 10 miles, around your house. This is your chance to come out and and make a difference on the right side of the ticket

Speaker 1  33:45

for we’ve got a strong campaign going. I’m very happy with it. It’s been very responsive. We’re going to we’ve got door knockers, we’ve got signs, we’ve got bumpers, tickets, we got shirts. My message is clear. I’m a business guy, and I believe, like I said before, I believe in a strong I believe your safety is very important. I believe we need new businesses. We need to attract businesses. And I believe in a school system that works for all of us. These our children need to be educated. I fear the day that one of my children comes to me and says, Dad, there’s no opportunity here in Baltimore County I’m leaving no, I want the same I want every child to have the opportunities that I had. I want them to be educated, I want them to feel safe. I want them to get a nice job. I want them to find a nice place to live that they can afford. I want that for every child, because I know how wonderful this county is. Like I mentioned before, we’ve got the best resources in the state of Maryland’s the best county out there. So I’m going to drive my message to get people to get to the polls. It’s a very important but we’ve got a nice plan to get to get the vote out

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Nestor Aparicio  34:53

my side of the county and Colgate Elementary, where I went, I would it’s me and the Flores family. We’re the only husband. Were over there 1977 my elementary school is like 80% Hispanic at this point. Where are you on this ice thing? Come ice people coming over and grabbing my ass off the street because I’m Venezuelan and asking me for my passport? Well, I am I I’m not a fan of anything that’s fascist. I mean, I read too much Anne Frank for that. Well, I

Speaker 1  35:22

I support our Federal officers, I mean, and I support getting bad people off the streets. And I think, if you talk to anybody, I think there’s a

Nestor Aparicio  35:32

there’s a lane, there’s a difference between bad people

Speaker 1  35:35

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and immigrants. Of course, of course. We all look we all know immigrants. They’re wonderful. My family came from only coffin ships from Ireland. We’re all immigrants. We don’t want we pub. My family came from

Nestor Aparicio  35:48

Venezuela, and our government just sent in the Department of War to bomb a country and steal its leader like and my family’s there. So it’s not funny to me. So there’s nothing to laugh about for my family at all, and there was nothing American about that, there was nothing patriotic about that, there was nothing constitutional about that, there was nothing congressional about that. So I was in Minnesota two weeks ago when Springsteen started a tour. They executed two citizens in the street there, and the government’s covering it up on behalf of federal agents. It’s bullshit pack. I mean, it just is. So I can’t support that, and I don’t want that on the streets of Towson or Dundalk or Woodlawn, I don’t, or Owings Mills or Glendon, I don’t, but I’m all for a path to citizenship that my father had that your grandparents had coming from Ireland, sure, and especially if they’re here and they’re paying taxes and their kids are in school and they have a job and they’re working somewhere, we can’t be putting these people in concentration camps, which is what these have become. Have you visited or tried to visit as a political candidate, any of where what ice is doing with the human beings that they’re picking up on streets. I have not, yeah, well, there’s, there’s been a lot of people in Congress that have and have pushed back on human rights violations, Alligator Alley, crocodile farms, whatever Trump thinks he’s doing in Florida that this is not acceptable. And that’s what happens to that Guatemalan or that Ecuadorian immigrant that gets picked up over on Eastern Avenue trying to hustle a gig at the Home Depot. That how we’re treating those people’s not humane, man.

Speaker 1  37:29

It’s not is that and they look like me. Is that a situation that should be dealt with on a congressional platform, or is

Nestor Aparicio  37:36

this, but if you’re running the county and allowing federal militia to come in and oversee police officers and grab families and separate children in our community, that’s a problem for me. You know why it’s problem? For me? It was a problem in Minnesota. It’s a problem everywhere. It’s happened because it’s not really solving issues. It’s creating a crisis in America, as I see it, a crisis of trust. And I’ll tell you, because my son lives in that neighborhood. Lives in Baltimore County, educating the Baltimore County with Perry Hall pays his taxes, he told me that the neighborhood feels like Anne Frank to him, that people pull their shades down because they’re afraid of the cops, government, teachers, their neighbors, all of that, that that’s that’s not healthy, man, you know, I’m just saying that’s not healthy. That’s not a community we should want. So I would, I would ask you to if you win your election, and we talk again in the summer, to keep your eye open that if you’re going to be running the county this time next year, that when the Federales come in here, how that’s going to affect the community, that that’s all and I felt that way with Kathy a couple months ago, but I can’t have her on to talk about much of anything. So, yeah, I mean, so I’m very disgruntled at the council at this point, and when Julian and Izzy come on and Pat, they’re going to hear about that for me, because, like, I’m Venezuelan pub, my family’s country, this is not and I’m Hispanic, and I fit the bill of

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Speaker 1  38:56

somebody I’ve often said I always stayed we’re a diversified County, and that is our strength. I mean, I truly believe that. I just think everybody should be welcome, and there should be a path to citizenship for everybody, but everybody should be welcome. I don’t want criminals

Nestor Aparicio  39:13

here of any kind. Certainly not Ms 13 member, you know, if that’s what, what’s going on, then we eliminate that. Sure, but pulling people out in their underwear in the winter in Minnesota because they look like they’re from someplace else that’s sure straight. I don’t

39:26

think anybody wants that. I hear, okay, well,

Nestor Aparicio  39:28

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that’s but that’s going on, and that would go on in our county, and I don’t want that to happen. So that would be my pushback to you on that as a, you know, as someone who came from Italian heritage and how we got together, as well as well as Venezuela heritage. We need

Speaker 1  39:42

an Irish heritage. I mean, we’re, of course, absolutely, of course, we need everybody. That’s why we’re a great country, because we’re diverse ideas.

Nestor Aparicio  39:51

And what’s your next fundraiser? I want to get people out for May 14. May 14. What are you doing? Where and when and all that?

Speaker 1  39:57

It’s at. It’s May 14. If you go to friends of Pat. Dyer, calm, you’ll

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Nestor Aparicio  40:01

find it there. I just went there, right here. I’m on it right now. My mobile phone. Here we go. Support, leadership. Hold on, I’m getting, I get it. Click the Events tab, about home, issues, news, contact.

40:10

I got it all may 14. I’ll get it

Nestor Aparicio  40:13

all right. Where’s it gonna be?

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You know? Yeah, it’s going to be. It’s three chimneys out, and

Nestor Aparicio  40:19

it’s out. I don’t know nobody three chimneys. I mean, I look up three at someone’s residence.

Speaker 1  40:26

Oh, okay, I’ve been for people are really standing up and having nice events for me. So I’m happy with that.

Nestor Aparicio  40:31

All right. Well, go to the website, find out more. Good luck to you. And hey, I want to say thanks to the I care about your Italian group. Could you do all these nights?

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Speaker 1  40:41

Oh, the associated, okay, the associated Italian American charities. Thanks for bringing it up. NES, we’re having the largest indoor party in Baltimore County, June 6. I mean, it’s going to be 800 people there. And everything we raise is given to our it given to our scholars and given to our charities. And this is a wonderful group of gentlemen, ladies and gentlemen, that they work tirelessly to make this happen, and it’s a great event. If you come across the ticket, I think it’s you probably can get a ticket, but you got to come. You if you haven’t been to it, would you like to come? Well, see

Nestor Aparicio  41:14

my guest. People asked me to come and speak. I did speak. You just sit at my table. They asked me to come out, and they’re like, what’s your speaking fee, or whatever, you guys, I said, I just give me a sandwich and I’ll come out. So the night that I left you, you gave me as a gift from your group, and it was, it was like a drink, damn, right? I took it home and had your name on it, and it had because you gave it to me, and it said, gift from the associate. Thanks for being a speaker. You’re the one who presented it. And I took it home, and I figured out, is this a $12 bottle, like a $15 bottle? And so I but I broke

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into the details.

Nestor Aparicio  41:51

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I actually had it. My wife has this delicious bolognace recipe that she got from Kim Acton from pas Luna, and she makes this bolognese. So I had a delicious I mean, who wants a Chianti when you can have a cab? You know what? I mean? So you gave me a cab. So I appreciate that. I love me a cat. One thing I like more in the cabs of MOBE, that’s because I’m

Speaker 1  42:10

South America. You got to come again. We got another one. I got another. June 6, all right, it’s at the valley mansion. It’s going to be packed Well, it’s a black tie. So everybody,

Nestor Aparicio  42:23

duck, I don’t have any black tie,

Speaker 1  42:25

dark suit, all right, you know, dark suit, dark jacket, whatever you fit right in. You have a great time. Well, the thing

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Nestor Aparicio  42:31

is, I was the only Democrat in the room when I spoke.

Speaker 1  42:33

He’s, I don’t think about that. I don’t name one Democrat for you in the primary. Yes, they can switch parties.

Nestor Aparicio  42:42

Nobody switching parties. Come on, dude, at least get me to try to vote for you in November.

Speaker 1  42:51

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So you say I got a chance on you, right in November

Nestor Aparicio  42:56

depends on who the Democratic candidate is, okay?

42:59

All right, fair enough,

Nestor Aparicio  43:00

I’m not one to say I would never vote for Republican, but you got a hell of a hill to climb after Trump. That’s all I’m gonna say. Trump has done immeasurable damage.

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Speaker 1  43:10

Well, I love this county. I mean, security he really has, but I agree. I mean, let me, let me take it. I love Baltimore County. Okay, you want to make it. It’s not Trump’s County. This is our county. Okay, I’m going to run the county. Me not Donald Trump. I know you keep bringing him up, but I have to, he runs your party. Well, okay, I’m going to be the CEO of Baltimore County. I’m going to run the ball. I’m I’m under no obligation to anybody, none. I’ve got no outside

Nestor Aparicio  43:40

influence you, and I outside influence you about the ice thing, because that would affect the county. So June 6, I’ll support your Italian group. I’ve already supported your campaign, having you on because I like hearing the other issues, and I do think your heart’s in the right spot. So I appreciate Thank you.

43:56

Thank you. I can’t say more than that. I appreciate you having me on. All right, I’ll get you another bottle one. Have me? No, we’re not doing more wine.

Nestor Aparicio  44:03

All right, maybe, sure, maybe a little bit of wine. My thanks to Pat Dyer friends. Pat Dyer’s a way to find him. We’re out here. Costas, did I give you a ticket? You want horses? You want birds? You want Boardwalk? Or do you want bridge? What do you want? I love ocean. Everybody likes the boardwalk one because it’s orange. Maryland lottery, doing Maryland treasures. Chris Corman, he is the sports editor of the Baltimore banner and maybe the Pittsburgh Post Gazette is going to be on next. Stay with us. We’re live at Costas Inn in Timonium.