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Joshua Humbert Coppin

Coppin State Vice President for Advancement Joshua Humbert tells Nestor what makes the Eagles’ campus a place to brag about in West Baltimore, highlighting the university’s recent achievements, including a rise in national rankings, increased fundraising, and enhanced technology and facilities. Humbert emphasizes the importance of philanthropy and community support, noting that Coppin has raised $17 million of its $25 million campaign goal.

Nestor Aparicio interviews Joshua Humbert, Vice President for Advancement at Coppin State University, discussing the university’s growth and community impact. Coppin State, which has a high school academy on its campus, serves around 500-700 high school students. Humbert highlights the university’s recent achievements, including a rise in national rankings, increased fundraising, and enhanced technology and facilities. He emphasizes the importance of philanthropy and community support, noting that Coppin has raised $17 million of its $25 million campaign goal. Humbert also underscores the unique value proposition of HBCUs in nurturing diverse student populations and preparing them for success.

SUMMARY KEYWORDS

Coppin State, Maryland crab cake tour, Thanksgiving shows, BMA at Gertrude, Maryland lottery, Jiffy Lube, Coppin Academy, high school pipeline, campus vibrancy, technology integration, philanthropic studies, HBCU experience, student success, fundraising campaign, community engagement

SPEAKERS

Joshua Humbert, Nestor Aparicio

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Nestor Aparicio  00:01

Welcome home. We are W, N, S T, am 1570 Towson, Baltimore and Baltimore, positive. We’re taking the Maryland crab cake tour out on the road through the holidays. We’re at the Green Mountain station up at amstet this week. I hope I have leftover crab cakes from there for Thanksgiving. But after Thanksgiving, we’re doing several shows through the holiday season. We’re starting to Cocos with some Spike dagnock. The fifth will be up at the BMA at Gertrude with my cousin John shields and the great Dan Rodricks. All of it brought to you by our friends at the Maryland lottery have Raven scratch offs to give away, as well as our friends at Jiffy Lube multi care powering Luke back and forth to Owings, mills and beyond into the playoffs, hopefully around here in football season, also monitoring baseball, all that stuff, politics, business, crab cakes, holidays, pumpkin pie, sweet potato pie, apple pie, a la mode, all of that good stuff, as well as music classic. But our partnership at COVID State University as well. What we’re going to talk about right now we you put the radio on some nights, Tuesday night. Sometimes, I’m coming back from playing a fitness you hear some compensates dribbling, great play by play throughout the winter season. They are had been our partners for a decade now, over a decade, 12 years now, we’re trying to have a little dig, a little deeper into what compensates all about once, twice a year. We bring on Doctor Jenkins to talk about not just our partnership, but, you know, stew over there, coaching them up, and basketball season and all the good things going on. Joshua Humbert is a is that the compensate? Now I want to get you know I do. I’m terrible with titles, Vice President for Advancement, external relations Alumni Association, University Relations, Executive Director at COVID State University of their foundation. I know I’ve seen you ran to court the last couple of years because I’ve been out there. How are you welcome in not a doctor, but a vice president? Yes,

Joshua Humbert  01:49

yes. Like I was telling you, I don’t want those extra problems and student bills.

Nestor Aparicio  01:52

I always say, anybody’s got to see they’re a chief. And I’m like, man, you’re charged or something. That means people are complaining to coming to you. You know, I see this in your background in Indiana. First things first, the first thing I noticed about you coming to town and being a part of this with what everything Dr Jenkins trying to do over there with COVID and grow and just get better at everything. You came in the middle of the mass, man, you came in 21 masks on people. Don’t even see your face around the campus the first year, and at a time when I think colleges had gone remote and remote learning, and there’s so much about Wi Fi, and we’re losing that generation, and you’re in the middle of this now where a lot of these kids on your campus, and I say kids, young people, really live through the weirdest time educationally, I can imagine out there. So I would think the campus has changed a lot from the time you got, oh

Joshua Humbert  02:44

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yeah, it’s it’s booming, and it’s bussing with students walking around. And the good thing is, we have a Academy, Coppin Academy, on our campus as well. So that adds to a bit of the life of some of our high school students, and things that ages. So Coppin Academy, what is that? Yeah, so we have a high school where, I think we’re the only university within the state that actually has a a an academy, basically, which is a charter school part of the Baltimore educational system as well, that COVID has partnered, partnered with a high school, and we actually, they are actually located, use our facilities, our building. So you’ll see students ranging from, you know, ninth all the way up to 12th. And then you also see college students as well. So it’s a really great opportunity for us to be able to make sure that there is a strong pipeline of, you know, young students who are still in, you know, ninth through 12th grade,

Nestor Aparicio  03:43

West Baltimore, kids, Edmonton, yes,

Joshua Humbert  03:48

absolutely anywhere, right? Okay, anywhere. Yeah. So having them on our campus and exposing them, you know, puts them in a great position to see that, you know, college is available to them, and that it’s a real, reality. And a lot of

Nestor Aparicio  04:00

city kids, though, right? Not counties or No, yeah, just city kids. Most

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Joshua Humbert  04:04

of them are city residents.

Nestor Aparicio  04:06

How many, how many young people we talking about here? Jeez,

Joshua Humbert  04:09

don’t give me lying, but I think close to five to 700 so, yeah, double check those numbers.

Nestor Aparicio  04:18

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I come over a lot honestly for meetings, I’ve been over, right? Bob and Dom and park come in, but a lot of sporting events, right? And I think your gym is really underrated for how beautiful it is. People come in. I always wind up over there for the Morgan gates. I got the east side, west side thing going on, but there’s always a lot of enthusiasts. I came over last year when we brought the LSU in for for the ladies. Oh,

Joshua Humbert  04:41

yeah, that was great. Yeah. I

Nestor Aparicio  04:42

mean, that was just holiday, yeah? The spirit. So when I’m over there, I sense that spirit, and I sense what’s going on, but on a day by day basis, just the, I would say, the, you know, the just the what you guys do, foundationally, classrooms, young people, education, all of that. There’s just a vibrancy. When I. Go for those kinds of meetings that, I don’t say it’s solemn, but it’s a little bit quiet. There’s a lot of learning going on going over there, yeah. And just a lot of people, when I see the activity, that there’s just movement on your campus all the time, yeah?

Joshua Humbert  05:12

And, you know, you mentioned when I came in 2021 yes, people coming back to work, you know, and then getting their footing under them a bit where, you know, a lot of folks had been, you know, working from home for the last two to three years, and it’s really good. It’s, it’s, you know, we have a beautiful campus, and it’s excellent to be able to see how we’ve actually embraced some of the new technology that is unfolded from the COVID, you know, I mean, being able to take advantage of that, but then still getting back into the normal routine of why people go to a college, why they go to HBCUs, why they go for that, you know, that extra extended learning, where they want that college experience. So, you know, a lot of that, yes, is comfortable when you can probably, you know, do some of this in your pajamas. But you know, you come back for the networking, you come for the camaraderie. You come back for, you know, the games and all the different sports. You know, we’ve been MIA champions in volleyball. We act champions in baseball. Our ladies went to the big tournament. Fell a little short for softball. So, you know, you don’t get that sitting around in your pajamas. So we are excited to have everyone back on campus.

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Nestor Aparicio  06:19

You know, you talk about technology taking this thing further, and what I’ve tried to do in my 33 years of being an old sports radio guy that took live phone calls and live real time. And you know what I think I’m doing now, and what I’d like to think I’m doing now, but the Zoom part of this can be, you know, you talk baseball. I mean, when sherm’s doing anything, I have him zoom in now talk awareness with me, whatever, because I think there is a an availability that technology has brought us, that I don’t know what I am. What am I? Gen X, Gen old. I don’t whatever I am. But the way young people, and even people that might be between their age and my age, like you find younger people and the way they’re seeing the world on their mobile devices, the way they’re getting jobs, the way they’re getting educated, you have the unique experience of staying young just because you’re there to some degree, right?

Joshua Humbert  07:16

Yeah, absolutely. You know, when we have our interns coming in and out of the office. It’s awesome, right to be able to see how they’re connecting the dots of what their future is going to look like in real time. It’s a joy. I think it’s one of those things where we have our scholarships and our scholarship holders. They get it when they come back for our commitment to excellence and homecoming, or when we have our scholarship luncheons for our donors to come back, they get to see it and through, you know, publications that we put out to support the program as well. But you know when from being on campus and then when they get to see the students that they’re helping and the dividends that their scholarships are providing. You know, it really does transform, you know, their own lives. Because I always tell people, you know, philanthropy is just a big word for big hearted people, right? So at the end of the day, we want to make sure that we’re making a deposit in their journey as being philanthropists, because we also know that at a certain point in time, we had to redefine the profile of what a philanthropist looks like. So when they come back on campus, they get to see that, right? They get to see where our students are, you know, struggling. They get to see where they’re succeeding. They get to see everything in between, right? And that is a awesome experience for us, to be able to not only see the transformation of our students, but then to see the transformation of our donors, because a lot of them are making that big step from making $100 donation annually to making a Endowed Scholarship where 25,000 or 50,000 or above, the goal is for them is to understand that we’re in this journey with them. And that’s why we launched the campaign too. So we understood when more and more people were seeing Dr Jenkins vision, they were seeing the transformation on campus. They were seeing all the beautiful things that were happening. And then we said, there was never a better time to actually launch a campaign that really engulfed all those different ideas and principles and values that we were, you know, sort of standing up.

Nestor Aparicio  09:11

Joshua Humbert is over Coppin State, our partners in our flagship. He’s the Vice President, the VP for Institutional Advancement. And, you know, I read your bio like I read up on people when they come on to learn things. And, you know, I give you a hard time about Indiana and how we beat them back in the days Maryland fans around here basketball, back we were both younger men. But I see your master’s degree in philanthropic studies from Indiana University Bloomington, and I’m thinking, first things, first, philanthropic studies, you mentioned what philanthropy is, and you’ve spent, you know, a career in this. What is that and and what should I know about philanthropy? Because I think I’ve learned more in talking to people around Baltimore who have foundations and where things like goldsecker and the ABLE family. Foundation and different you know, Harry and Jeanette Weinberg, names that I have for years and years talked about through Ed block, Courage Awards and things that I’ve been involved in for 33 years trying to raise money, but the fact that there’s a true philanthropic say, What? What do you learn in a couple years on campus down there in Indiana, besides good basketball and the legend of Bobby Knight and all those basketball things? Basketball thing, pretty good football team now too, right

Joshua Humbert  10:24

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now, yes, yes, yes, they’ve stepped that up a little done well, they’ve done well, you know, from the

Nestor Aparicio  10:29

university standpoint, to have somebody like you out later in life doing what you went to school for, and saying, This is how we build communities, communities that have suffered, the places we’re trying to rebuild in this and doing it through universities where you’ve already told me you got 1314, 15 year old people that you know are going to be going into that leadership role that, yeah, when I’m a little older, hopefully staying out of the nursing these are the people going to be running our world. This is where philanthropy starts with someone like you getting this sort of an education and bringing it to Coppin, yeah,

Joshua Humbert  11:02

so you, well, I think you might actually have just earned your your master’s degree. You explained it so well, you know me, it really is the third sector. You have business, you have public, which is the government, and then you have the third independent sector, which is the the nonprofit space. You know, a lot of the things that we do, from our high schools to our libraries to our hospitals to our associations to our nonprofits, they actually cover a wide range of those 501, C, threes and and all the above. And they had mission based priorities. And the goal for that is understanding that in this country, we have such a strong independent sector that it’s really hard for individuals to live life in America without experiencing some level of nonprofit activity, right, or philanthropic activity, even with our well established institutions. So the goal is, how do you create leaders and folks in the expertise the same way you would do in business or the government. You know, the idea is, you know, we need to wrap our hands around folks who take this industry very, very seriously. Because most people, you know, and it’s more than just fundraising, they don’t raise their hands in high school or college and say, I want to be a fundraiser, right? Like the same way they want to say, I want to be an engineer.

Nestor Aparicio  12:21

Or even if they realize they were really going to become a billionaire, what they would do with their money? Right? Exactly, something beyond, I get a boat, I get a house. I once you get all of that. You know, I saw Mr. Rubenstein give a speech for that the Orioles. He’s a billionaire. Yeah, he’s buying the Orioles and thinks he can do good things with the city through it in his mind, whatever billionaires do. But when people come to cop and get an education, do well, go on later in life, they want to come back and be a partner in any institution, wherever it is, or in any city or in any environment. And let’s be honest, West Baltimore hasn’t spawned that so well over 100 years that it needs other people to

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Joshua Humbert  13:01

do that? Sure, yeah, yeah. And I think where most people look through a lens of, first I learn, then I earn, and then I return, which is I become a philanthropist once I’ve made it right, one of the things that we’ve been able to start a culture of philanthropy at COVID State University is the ability to let people know that you can redefine what the profile of a philanthropist looks like, like I mentioned, and it doesn’t take a lot to give. It doesn’t take a lot to give your treasure. We believe that people are smart, talented, unique and curious, right? And our job is to help prepare position, perform and preserve their sort of legacy and the things that they want to do in the community, but they just need a little help. So the goal for us would be that North Star in West Baltimore that allows people to say, look, I can get involved, and I have people that are going to help me along that journey. Because it’s more than just giving. It’s the ability to wrap yourself around, you know, your community, you know the solutions that you can bring as an individual and learn something along the way. Right? It’s the goal is to enrich your life as much as you are, you know, enriching someone else’s life. So I always say there’s two sides to the giving coin, but what that does is builds an ecosystem for West Baltimore and Coppin to grow in such a way that is unimaginable. You know, we have North Star goals a part of you know, President Jenkins’s five. You know, strategic priorities. And the goal for that is we increased our fundraising. We increased our endowment by 60% we’ve increased our corporate partners by 25% you know, we’ve increased our technology. We’ve given out more scholarships than we’ve ever done. We are ranking last time. I don’t know if you spoke to President Jenkins, but in I think in 2019 we were number 53 on the US New World Rankings. And 2023 we were number 35 and this year we are number 27 right? So talk about these jumps and leaps and bounds. And it’s not just copping, it’s the entire community has wrapped their hands. Around ability for us to get there. So the goal is, if we keep pressing on this campaign, I think, to date, we’ve raised 17 million of the 25 million that we hope to close at the end of 2025 and we’ve seen phenomenal support from our alums, our corporate partners, and, you know, our faculty, our staff and our students who give back. I don’t believe it or not. So that gives me my energy when I see students. And I was like, Wait, why did the student give $25 right? And I know that they might struggling themselves, and they’re living on pizza and so those things. So you recognize that, you know what we could all do a little bit, and it’s really helping Coppin grow.

Nestor Aparicio  15:36

Joshua Humbert is our guest. He’s the VP over at COVID, and you mentioned HBCUs, and I think from the sports reporter background in me, it’s about Fang and basketball and and the MEAC and Morgan State having NFL players back in the day, and having some, in many cases, former NFL players, coach their team in the same way You’ve had a couple of NBA years coach your basketball team at the heart of everything that Jeff Bezos is, you know, ex wife has done and creating a light around HBCUs and what they represented. And again, from a sports space for me, it was Grambling, right? And coach Robinson and Doug Williams and Super Bowls four years ago. That’s how you would know about that. But then you grew up in a city like Baltimore with this history for Morgan and Coppin and other schools here, and when you’re on the sports side, you you just know about NCAT and South Carolina State and Norfolk State. You learn about that from a sports perspective, but you learn about it in a different way from an educational side, and certainly coming from Indiana, I don’t know your whole background, but I know you’ve worked in other places, but you mentioned HBCU from for our audience, who may not have ever been to Morgan State’s campus, or maybe only came over when LeBron came down and dribbled 15 years ago, or maybe he’s been to a cop in basketball game because they were there last year and to pack the place, or whatever. What? What sets apart HBCUs from a government standpoint, from a civic standpoint, from a community standpoint, and from your involvement when you go out to educate people that may not be as familiar with what even the alphabet part of it even means, yeah,

Joshua Humbert  17:18

yeah. And look, and that’s a great you know, every every institution, has its own DNA, right? And I think there is a common thread that HBCUs, whether it’s Morgan, whether it’s Bowie, UBS, Norfolk State, where I went to my undergrad. And you know, it’s is a common thread that we all share the ability to uplift and provide an environment and an experience that wraps his hands around the ability to get people from point A to point Z, right. And yes, you can get that at 1000 you can get that at a UMD College Park. But the goal is there’s an experience that you know when you boil it all down of duty and care and nurturing and potential of, you know, the lives of our students who are sometimes on the margins of society, and they’re they’re bringing them along. You know, at COP and President Jenkins says, you know, there is not many institutions, right? We’ll take a student who is struggling with a 2.5 and the valedictorian of a high school, and then get them across the Finish, finish line, right? Like we do both, we get the student that needs a little bit more help, and then the brightest student, you know, coming from high school that doesn’t need as much help. But then also 10x them to get to the next level. So they’re ready for a, you know, a workforce, ready minded, you know, position in in their careers, right? So now, and I think the hardest

Nestor Aparicio  18:45

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thing is, when any kid comes to you, based on what I’ve seen politically here, and don’t get me started on, yeah, the election and whatnot, but what I’ve seen is that there is a wide gap for what education represents in 12th grade school in this country, and when they come from all, I mean, you know, compensate campus. I mean, I just look at your sports, and the kids are coming from a Y, they’re coming from the wet. Oh, yeah, yeah, international, all of that. When people come, they’re not only cultural, religious, racial, whatever you whatever difference would be, just where they come and say, I’ve got a high school diploma, yeah, and what that represents for when they come to your front door. I think that’s its own challenge, because it it felt a little more homogenized in my era as to what, you know, if I would have gone to Maryland or even a big school that would have had a lot of kids from a lot of places, we all would have red Catcher in the Rye. We all would have had east to eat. And we all would have had, you know, the solar so just the basic same sort of education. I think education is very, very different in the modern era as to what, what a recruiter would find and say, What a 17 or 18 year old young person coming to any college, what they would know or wouldn’t know based on a diploma? Right?

Joshua Humbert  20:00

Yeah. And to you. And look, our job is to transform you once you get here, right? And so that that value of your diploma takes you through, you know, everything you’re trying to do in life, right? It helps you, helps your family, helps your community, and at the end of the day, you know, we have a certain DNA. And I and you know, folks always ask, what’s the value proposition for an HBCU, right? And I tell them, It’s the secret sauce, and sometimes people don’t understand that, but it really is our secret sauce of the way our experience, our academic you know, standards, the ability for our leadership, to understand that. You know what? These students come from a various different backgrounds, where sometimes, where you go to a larger institution, they might not see everyone as an individual, just a block of students coming in for their freshman cohorts, and that’s not to knock their, their their system, but the goal is we understand that everybody wants to sign up for that. And then, to be honest, we have very, very big HBCUs out there as well, where people do want a little bit more of you know, what does it mean to have a very big campus but still a very unique feel around how they’re being treated by their faculty, their staff and their in their leadership. So at the end of the day, I think we all work in some level of concert, whether we’re separated by states, but there’s a common thread that sort of pulls us all together within a unique experience, and especially when it comes to black and brown in this country, where, you know, they’ve been our institutions that we can rely on for higher education, where we didn’t have access to a lot of other opportunities in this country growing up. Well,

Nestor Aparicio  21:31

you mentioned access to opportunities, and where you were, you chose Norfolk, state? Were you local? There’s, oh, no,

Joshua Humbert  21:38

I was a DC guy.

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Nestor Aparicio  21:41

Okay, so you could have gone have gone to Howard. There were other opportunities for you. What? What was a draw for you? Because I’m thinking in the back of your mind every time you’re out, working with philanthropy, working on building things. You say, I work at Coppin. But hold on, I made a decision too, to go to an HBC. Oh, yeah, and yeah, I’m sure you probably had other options as well, right? Yeah,

Joshua Humbert  22:00

yeah. You know I, you know, I went down, and I’m not gonna lie to you, I was 18, so, you know I got, I’m not gonna tell you I had it all worked out at 18. I went

Nestor Aparicio  22:13

to community college so I could figure it out. I went to Dundalk Community College. I told Dr Curt nudge that all the time. Yeah. So,

Joshua Humbert  22:19

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you know, my thought is, I saw the cheerleaders, I saw the band, and I saw the big buildings, and I saw a community that wanted me there. Same thing. Every

Nestor Aparicio  22:30

kid that I know, it goes to Alabama or Penn State, they saw the same things you saw. You just saw it a different way, right?

Joshua Humbert  22:36

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, you know, the big program, like, I don’t Dick price stadium. It was huge, you know, I mean, it was one of the biggest football stadiums I’ve had ever seen. So from that perspective, like, you know, it was such an environment that allowed me to say, Hey, Mom, I’m going to Norfolk. And my mom was like, Well, I thought you’re going to JMU down in Virginia. I was like, No. I was like, I I’m going to Norfolk, and they sold me. So from there, you know, it was all she wrote, and I had a great undergraduate experience. And, you know, so I see, you know, by having those experience, what Coppin is doing for their students, to give them the same things that I had. And I got to tell you, I’m so excited, and I’m proud of, you know, Baltimore. I’m excited how West Baltimore has risen to the occasion of wrapping their arms around our growth, and I’m excited that our leadership is something that really does come to work every single day and trying to do a better job every day for our students, faculty and staff. Joshua Humber

Nestor Aparicio  23:38

is the Vice President over at Coppin State, and Dr Jenkins providing all sorts of leaders for us to talk about compensate. He’s with Institutional Advancement. And you know, the basics of this are, you represent the school and trying to get funding from lots of different resources. And, you know, I shouldn’t say, Are we underfunded, over funded? We always want more funding and different things. But give me a few of the growth things that are happening at Coppin that when you say, Give it $1 million as Dr Evil, yeah, wait, wait, you know where that money goes and what the the few things we’re doing at Coppin to try to make it bigger and better, aside from Stu basketball program over

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Joshua Humbert  24:17

there, yeah, no, no. So our, research has developed so well, you know, we’re raising money for our research, for our faculty, staff and students. Then on top of that, the technology and how we build our technology has grown our facilities, making investments in our facilities like our EAC, where so President Jenkins is sort of unique in this is because a lot of presidents, when I came and I was interviewing for the position, you know, they had this super big wing in the administration building, but President Jenkins put his office in the library so he could be up close and personal with the students coming in and out, so he had access. Right? That’s not something and I’ve worked for other higher ed institutions, and that’s not something that a lot. The president’s making.

Nestor Aparicio  25:00

She never mentioned that before. I mean, yeah, so you gotta tell me some more secrets. Next time I have him on, she because he won’t brag about he won’t brag. Stop it. Say, Hey, his office is in the library.

Joshua Humbert  25:12

His office is in the library. He built his office in the library because he understood, at the end of the day is about available. If you ever watch bronteels, you know, it’s all about location and availability, right Sunny. And you know he is power. Proximity is power. And you know he has a student engagement background. And you know the the goal is, if you want, and that’s transformational leadership right there. If you want to be you want to understand what students are and the product, and especially him coming in 2020, where it was really knee deep in COVID. You know, I’m glad he got here before I did. You know, the the goal is he knew so he had a foresight that the campus was going to look the way it did, right and does right now. And from there, you know, we built out the top four of our EAC, which basically is a one stop shop for all the student resources to help making sure that our retention goes through the roof, and which has, you know, our enrollments up, you know, I mean, so when you ask where that money goes, whereas 50 bucks, $100,000 or the 10 million, or 5 million from our some of our partners that we hope to receive down the road, it’s, you know, to get us to 25 million. It’s, it’s, it’s the it’s the ability to understand that your money’s going to something that allows us to feel as if it’s not going into a black hole, right? It’s not just going into something that you won’t be able to tangibly see. And endowments are important because it allows us to do operating and strengthen our core. But you know, we have so many things that we’re improving at lightning speed. We’ve been able to 10x in so many different ways that you know me, that’s where your money’s going, and people can see the changes all around. I don’t know if you saw Nestor, all of our marketing and branding across the city last year and this year, from billboards to, you know, making our egos feel proud, and our alumni feel proud about, you know, Coppins back, you know, in a way that you know they they hadn’t seen in a while. And our programs are, you know, doing very, very well. And then on top of that, our sports teams have been winning championships. We’ve always punched above our weight. And I think, you know, what people don’t understand is that Coppin, smaller institution that we are beating the Howard’s, we’re beating the Morgans, we’re beating the buoys. We’re beating all the other places that come around that allow us to, you know, show exactly why. Yeah, don’t discount us. Because, you know, we might be a little bit smaller in size, but you know, our teams and our heart is big. Number

Nestor Aparicio  27:31

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27 with a bullet, he tells me, I gotta learn more about these ranks. Hey, listen the everything you just said in the last I’ll leave you with this. We’ll drop the mic on this, because it’ll bring up the great Ron Fang Mitchell, whose names on the court over there. You know, that’s everything Fang would say. We punch above our weight. We’re 15 seed. We knock off two seeds. That’s what we do. And that was the last century,

Joshua Humbert  27:54

yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think we were the first HBCU to ever do, I believe, yeah, so correct me, I believe, yeah,

Nestor Aparicio  28:04

there was never 15 that, I mean, yeah, it was always the smallest of schools, or 1516 and never beaten to one till a couple years ago. UMBC, we got, hey man, we got, we play ball here, you know, right? Basketball, absolutely.

Joshua Humbert  28:19

Look. You about to get me to come out of this shirt? You know? I mean,

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Nestor Aparicio  28:23

you know, I mean, and you know, if I had Stu on and Ian Fang and say, Guys, there’s Philly boys came down here. So, you know, we had all the Baltimore guys here going to Georgetown and back in the day and Wingate. But we haven’t just Dunbar, just such a rich basketball tradition, and I think a lot of people do in my audience. Certainly think of you for basketball. I wanted to think about you for more. Joshua Humbert is, is with us from COVID state. We’re going to get Doctor Jenkins back on here. Uh, we’ll get him out for a crab cake, maybe down to faith before it’s all over with. Uh, he is the Institutional Advancement VP over cop. And that involves, uh, philanthropic, philanthropic strategy, fundraising and advancement when I could spit it all out. I hope you have a great holiday. Most important I gotta, I ask, is for everybody, alright, it’s Thanksgiving. 33 years into this, we gotta get loose here. Pumpkin pie, apple pie, sweet potato pie, a mince meat pie. What kind of pie we got for Thanksgiving? Oh,

Joshua Humbert  29:16

sweet potato pie. You know, sweet potato pie and apple pie with lots of whipped cream. It always beats the it always, it always helps me get to a really good, relaxed space on the couch.

Nestor Aparicio  29:29

So wise markets is our sponsor. We call these wise conversations, and if you listening, you know why they have a first off, they have a great dairy ice cream. They make world famous ice cream. I’ve been to the factory up there with a little scooper with the little net on my head. It was actually december 21 and I did it the cinnamon ice cream for the holidays. It doesn’t sound you’ll be like cinnamon ice No, no, no. You gotta have a half gallon of y cinnamon ice cream. Get it this week before they because they there’s a run on it when you have that. It works with everything. It works with any of these. Guys were talking about was you when you what? It’s Thanksgiving, go Alamo. You don’t want to deprive yourself. You know, this is a time for be a little excessive. Get yourself $3 little half gallon of cinnamon ice cream. There’s my gift to you.

Joshua Humbert  30:12

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I appreciate that. Alright, I’m taking it. I’m taking it, and then I’ll post a picture of it when I’m on the couch watching football. What you want

Nestor Aparicio  30:19

to do is put it on there and let it melt a little. Just give it a minute, you know, and then take a picture, and then send that over, and then get in there and VP umber from COVID.

Joshua Humbert  30:29

Thank you so much. Thank you for coming. Thank

Nestor Aparicio  30:31

you pleasure. Um, and long time our flagship, you hear games around here at AM, 1570 uh, you find great conversations. Doctor Jenkins is out as well as copping all over the front of Baltimore. Positive.com Stay with us.

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