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From City Connect to Ravens new ‘brand’ drop: Luke and Nestor do a Baltimore Sports Fashion Week analysis of the money grab

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While we’re wearing the throwbacks – and often throw up when we see the newer designs – Luke Jones and Nestor get off the lawn and do a proper Fashion Week show from Faidley’s as the Orioles’ City Connect green and orange drop and the Ravens drop their mysterious new rebrand and threads coming later this week. High fashion and delicious crab cakes from Lexington Market.

  • [ ] @Nestor Aparicio – Participate in the Walk a Mile in Their Shoes fundraiser at GBMC South Chapman on Friday the 17th at 4 p.m. to support sexual assault victims and children affected by trafficking.
  • [ ] @Nestor Aparicio – Review the Ravens memorabilia collection and list selected items on eBay for sale once the new uniform designs are unveiled.

Orioles City Connect and Ravens New Uniforms

  • Nestor Aparicio introduces the show, mentioning the Maryland lottery and various Maryland treasures.
  • Nestor talks about his upcoming walk for GBMC to support sexual assault victims and trafficking.
  • Nestor and Luke Jones discuss the Orioles’ City Connect uniforms, with Nestor wearing the throwback jersey.
  • Luke mentions Todd Radom, an artist who will discuss the Ravens’ new uniform collection.

City Connect Uniforms and Historical Context

  • Nestor and Luke discuss the City Connect uniforms, with Luke expressing his dislike for most of them.
  • Nestor and Luke talk about the Orioles’ second edition of the City Connect jersey, which includes elements like Camden Yards.
  • Luke mentions the first City Connect jersey, which had a decorative inside, and his preference for the second edition.
  • Nestor and Luke discuss the historical context of the Orioles’ uniforms, including the 1966 script and the Palmer 66 jersey.

Ravens Uniform Changes and Historical Identity

  • Nestor and Luke shift the conversation to the Ravens’ uniform changes, with Luke expressing concern about the new designs.
  • Luke mentions the Ravens’ history of keeping their uniforms largely the same since 1997.
  • Nestor and Luke discuss the potential changes, including the flying bee logo and the Maryland flag.
  • Luke expresses his hope that the new uniforms will maintain the Ravens’ recognizable brand identity.

NFL Draft and Roster Building

  • Nestor and Luke discuss the upcoming NFL draft, with Luke predicting the Ravens’ draft strategy.
  • Luke mentions the importance of finding a long-term solution at center, given the success of Lamar Jackson with a strong center.
  • Nestor and Luke talk about the potential for trades during the draft, including acquiring veteran players for draft picks.
  • Luke emphasizes the need for the Ravens to address the offensive line and other key positions in the draft.

Lamar Jackson’s Contract and Future

  • Nestor and Luke discuss Lamar Jackson’s contract situation and the possibility of an extension.
  • Luke mentions the no-trade and no-franchise tag clauses in Jackson’s contract, which complicate negotiations.
  • Nestor and Luke speculate about Jackson’s long-term future with the Ravens, considering his age and the potential for free agency.
  • Luke suggests that Jackson might be feeling out the new coaching staff and front office before making a decision on his future.

Orioles Season Outlook and Injuries

  • Nestor and Luke discuss the Orioles’ early-season performance, with Luke expressing concerns about the bullpen and defense.
  • Luke mentions the importance of Zac Eflin and Dean Kremer in the rotation, given the injuries to other starters.
  • Nestor and Luke talk about the potential for the Orioles to improve as the season progresses, despite their current struggles.
  • Luke highlights the need for consistent performance from Bradish and Rogers to support the team’s success.

Personal Updates and Health

  • Nestor shares his upcoming doctor’s appointment and his commitment to preventative health.
  • Luke talks about his own health routine and the importance of regular check-ups.
  • Nestor and Luke discuss their recent travels and experiences, including Nestor’s trip to Machu Picchu.
  • Nestor mentions his upcoming appearances at various locations, including Lexington Market and Koco’s Pub.

Upcoming Events and Community Engagement

  • Nestor outlines his schedule for upcoming events, including appearances at GBMC and various community locations.
  • Nestor mentions the Maryland lottery tickets and the Maryland treasures art competition.
  • Luke and Nestor discuss the importance of community engagement and supporting local organizations.
  • Nestor highlights the various guests and topics planned for future shows, including political candidates and city officials.

SUMMARY KEYWORDS

Orioles City Connect, Ravens uniforms, Maryland lottery, GBMC walk, sexual assault victims, Todd Radom, color rush, Camden Yards, Baltimore brand, NFL draft, Lamar Jackson, offensive line, bullpen concerns, Zac Eflin, Bradish.

SPEAKERS

Nestor Aparicio, Luke Jones

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Nestor Aparicio  00:00

Welcome home. We are W, N, S, T, am 1570 tasks in Baltimore. We are Baltimore positive. We’re here at faintly seafood. We’re at Lexington market. It’s all brought to you by friends at the Maryland lottery. I have the Maryland treasures. Finally, to give away a horse. Is a horse, of course, of course. I’ve also got the Maryland crab and the bay. I have the bay bridges, and this is Luke’s favorite. Only never goes to Ocean City, Maryland, Wildwood Max pizza. This is a boardwalk in Ocean City. They have one, Luke, it’s the Maryland treasures. We have a lucky batch. I’ve given a whole bunch of Mount. We’re down to families, our friends at GBMC, keeping me healthy as well. I will be walking a mile in their shoes a week from today on Friday, Thursday the 16th, where cost us and Timonium, Friday the 17th, I’m doing a walk a mile in their shoes for sexual assault victims, trafficking, kids, all the awful things at Laura Clarion from GBMC, this week, we’re out supporting all of those victims, and we’re walking for them. On the 17th, we’ll be over GBMC at South Chapman. Four o’clock next Friday. The Orioles will be out of town. Luke is in town. The giants are in town. We’re not going to talk baseball right now, even though I’m wearing what I consider to be the iconic throwback city Connect. You’re they got the two upside down and backwards on this jersey. I have no idea. Todd Radom is going to come on next week. He has written books. He is an artist. He is a visual artist. He’s a sports artist. He’s done lots of throwbacks and throw ups and a lot of modern Super Bowl logos. He’s done NBA All Star. He’s done all sorts things. But he’s going to come on next Friday into the weekend, because the ravens are having a, what do they call it? A launch, unveiling a

Luke Jones  01:44

new uniform collection, which I think implies that

Nestor Aparicio  01:49

something this dude’s got the roquan Smith purple Barney gold

Luke Jones  01:52

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letter, that’s a color was the color rush. One purple color rush. I think they kind of rebranded it because, like, the NFL got away from color rush. So, you know why?

Nestor Aparicio  02:00

Because half the team stuff like ketchup and mushroom. Oh yeah.

Luke Jones  02:03

Well, remember, remember the very first game. It was bills and jets, and it was red and green, and no one took into account that anyone who’s colorblind like that would not, you wouldn’t be able to tell the two teams apart. So, yeah, those were not the best days. But you know what? And I’ll touch on the city connect briefly too. We have to remember, man, we’re old. No, these things are not geared for us. I mean, you mentioned in a previous segment, as I was arriving here at fadeleys, like you mentioned Doug desensities, I said a lot of people that these are catered to. They don’t know the difference of but it’s not

Nestor Aparicio  02:37

this is not the senses jersey. But, yeah, yeah, but I never wore this style, late 70s, you know, you know.

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Luke Jones  02:44

And let me be clear, I’m not a big fan of the city connect, generally speaking, across baseball, I think most of them have been horrific.

Nestor Aparicio  02:53

I call them miller lite beer,

Luke Jones  02:54

leaving softball jersey. I do think this second edition for the Orioles, I like it more than the first one, because the first one, remember, they, they decorated the inside of the jersey. I mean, it’s like, the dumbest idea ever.

Nestor Aparicio  03:04

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Like, what the city, this little city thing is

Luke Jones  03:07

that, right, neighborhoods and everything, but, like, you couldn’t see it. So what’s the point? Right? I mean, it’s like, it’s like, say, oh, symbolism. I have a new uniform that’s invisible, right? I mean, like, what are we talking about here? But I do like some of the elements of it. You knew at some point they were going to lean into Camden Yards. I mean, the Red Sox did with Fenway Park with their second one. Remember, they did a Boston Marathon one the first time around. Generally speaking, I don’t like changing primary colors, but if you’re going to do something different, at least they led. Left the orange in there, even though it’s the Camden yard, the warehouse brick and the Camden Yards green. I actually kind of like the hat I always thought would be when the ballpark open, because that hat that look that be logos on the seats or something, it was inspired

Nestor Aparicio  03:53

from like, the 30s or something

Luke Jones  03:55

before 1890s I don’t know if it was the exact one, but it was like

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Nestor Aparicio  03:59

it was a wee Willie Keeler. Was an old Bower. Yeah, so all

Luke Jones  04:04

things being equal, understanding we’re grading on a heck of a curve here. I think they’re fine in that way. I don’t like to be more. I don’t know anyone who has ever referred to Baltimore as be more. That’s actually from here, you know, like has like on a regular basis, right? Be more. You know, I at some point I thought they’d do a Charm City or something like that. They’ll probably do that three years from now, but it’s fine. I don’t love I’m not buying it. I’m not, no, I’m not either.

Nestor Aparicio  04:31

And, and I looks better than the Steelers jailbird.

Luke Jones  04:33

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I will say this. I mean, the first city connect I did like the hat. I mean, I got that hat on a distance to be,

Nestor Aparicio  04:39

yeah, the white, yeah,

Luke Jones  04:40

yeah, which, which. Now they’ve adopted that with that new alternate hat they have now. That’s black, orange brim and an orange V. You know,

Nestor Aparicio  04:48

I don’t mind any of it when they stay on brand. I’ll tell you what I mind is the stink they make of it. I mind, but that’s, that’s a nice by their social media accounts. In a general sense, I know so. So it’s, I don’t love it. It’s not subtly salesy, yeah, it’s overtly.

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Luke Jones  05:09

It comes in, we’re putting Baltimore on, and

Nestor Aparicio  05:11

if you’ve got any loyalty to Baltimore, you got to show your pride. You got to pay us all this for your pride. And I’m like, Man, why don’t we just go back to being a sports team that encompasses all that? Because they did, feels like that’s the authenticity part that they just skip. Yeah, that’s just sort of built well. We put Brooks in, Boog and Jim Palmer out in front of it, and it’ll just, it’ll, we’ll put Cal in a commercial. It’ll just make it work. I don’t know.

Luke Jones  05:38

Part of the problem with that even is. And I say this with new No disrespect. I love the history of the franchise. It doesn’t connect

Nestor Aparicio  05:47

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with young people. It doesn’t right. I mean, it barely connects with us. How Ripken

Luke Jones  05:51

65 years old now. I mean, don’t say that, but the best you can do is Adam Jones, Marco’s and JJ Hardy and and there’s nothing wrong with that. Those guys have value. The fact that Adam Jones is back in in even a part time capacity with the organization, even just an advisory role, is a great thing. I love that, but it’s tough. But at the same time, the city connects stuff. It’s not for us. It’s not if I had my if I had my way. You know what uniform the Orioles would have adopted years ago as a Sunday alternate? And I know our friend Chris pika, if he’s listening, I kind of took this from him, but I’m in full agreement. 1966 the old Orioles script as a kid, that’s the best as a kid. I actually thought it was a six when I was really young, because I always thought it looked a little weird, but just such a great look. You know, kind of that off white, the black lettering above the orange number. I mean, that’s, that’s great. That’s and, you know, you could adopt it a little bit. You could tweak it a little bit. I mean, the Braves have done that. My pal

Nestor Aparicio  06:54

Kevin grace, who’s a longtime listener and friend of mine, he gifted me on my 25th anniversary over Costas. He had heard me for years talk about the Palmer 66 jersey that they gave away. Yeah, 15 years ago, he had one in a bag that he had never taken out. That’s too big for me. I have

Luke Jones  07:10

one of my clients. I think I’ve worn it one, I’ve worn it, yeah, and it was a great the best, it’s the best jersey, the best giveaways they’ve ever done. That was great. I only own two

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Nestor Aparicio  07:21

Oreo and this one the Aparicio. And I own a white the white one I own is from the early before they went to the Scott Erickson black. So it was 9293 okay, was literally made by the team. I mean, Mar up at bro and my jersey. It’s the orange piping before they went to sort of that black Messina, right?

Luke Jones  07:40

BJ, sir. They changed the script then

Nestor Aparicio  07:43

when Roberto Alomar was here. But 95 six, Angela’s got involved. 95 is when they change. Yeah. Okay, so this is, I bought this.

Luke Jones  07:50

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Remember they had the gray road hat for they wore it like five times, and it was just awful.

Nestor Aparicio  07:55

Yeah, that was not a good

Luke Jones  07:56

hat, yeah? And that’s where, you know what? I’ll stick up for them a little bit the city connect thing overall, I just don’t like it’s not an Orioles

Nestor Aparicio  08:03

wear that on Fridays. What are they Friday

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Luke Jones  08:04

home games? I mean, I assume that. I mean, that was the plan with the first one. But I will say this, overall, with very few exceptions, I’ve never liked the O’s alternate I

Nestor Aparicio  08:14

hate that nobody tells them the

Luke Jones  08:17

O’s other than that. However, I actually think that’s one element of the franchise they’ve managed to not screw up too much, other than just the absence of Baltimore from the road jerseys in general, which went back long before Peter Angelos until they put it back on in 2009 I like the Orioles uniforms like I like the orange alternate. I like the regular black alternate that they have. I like the new alternate be cap. I like the Baltimore’s

Nestor Aparicio  08:43

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on the road jersey, which I thought

Luke Jones  08:45

for that Baltimore road jersey is

Nestor Aparicio  08:47

lost my press credential over I think they’re

Luke Jones  08:49

both their gray Baltimore script jersey. I think is one of the best jerseys in baseball. I think it’s fantastic. So they have good uniforms overall. You know, they brought the cartoon bird back after years and years of the you know, correct bird that they’ve now started to phase back in a little bit, and all that reminds me of is 14 straight years.

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Nestor Aparicio  09:09

Steven miles told me a story at Memorial Stadium. You remember your dad was an usher there. The box seats were literal boxes. They had little, little license plates, and they had a corporate name in the box. His box as Steven l Miles was SLM Ornithological Society, and he said, he said he didn’t want his law firm on there. He said, Because when we’re sitting in their seats, we were bird watch, yeah. So he told me, pretty cool.

Luke Jones  09:34

So you say ornithologically Correct? So yes. So I think despite city connect, and it’s not really for you. It’s not they could bring back

Nestor Aparicio  09:45

the 55 Orioles jerseys and call them city connect, and the young people would think they

Luke Jones  09:49

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look cool. That’s to me, like, go look at the Braves. Go look at their city connects that

Nestor Aparicio  09:53

they’ve done. They look like Ralph Carr 71

Luke Jones  09:55

they did the 75 Hank Aaron 715 uniforms. They just tweaked it a little bit. And I thought it was a good look. I said, Ralph, I like to have seen some early pub numerals, but, but again, as these go, there are way worse ones. I mean, there are some where it’s like, I don’t even the team’s not even

Nestor Aparicio  10:12

recognize dude had a Padre hat on here. That was one of those baby blue it looks like, it looks like pink flamingos or so. I don’t what the hell it is, yeah. But when, like, the Red Sox wearing those goofy gold things, yeah, yeah.

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Luke Jones  10:29

I mean, it’s, I understand that they’re trying, you know, some of these are trying to be a little more okay, an ode to something. Some of them go straight up abstract. And it’s like, okay, I don’t really know what this is supposed to be like. The Royals put one out. It has, doesn’t even have Royals colors. I don’t really know what

Nestor Aparicio  10:47

Rangers had last year. Had boobies on the top. Remember?

Luke Jones  10:50

Yeah. And they also had, what, a white jersey and, like, navy blue, like dark midnight blue pants. He seemed

Nestor Aparicio  10:57

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to change their logos, like any NBA All right, let’s get to Raven, right?

Luke Jones  11:01

Like we’re, we’re kind of fixating on a jersey that’s not going to be worn a whole lot if now the ravens are going to

Nestor Aparicio  11:06

adopt, this is going to be their new kid. Yeah. And so they have gone the old Jersey gone.

Luke Jones  11:13

Think they’re gone entirely, but I think they’re. They’re modifying some, I don’t know. There’s a lot of there’s

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Nestor Aparicio  11:20

conjecture about the flying beer. There’s been

Luke Jones  11:22

conjecture about that. I’ve seen some conjecture about that. These are a little more subtle changes, like they’re not from what I understand, like the home purple jersey. It doesn’t sound like it’s going away entirely. It’s just they’re gonna, I mean, maybe they’re gonna change the fawn a little bit or whatever. But I’m leery of this. And you know me, fashion tweets all this. I mean, it’s hilarious.

Nestor Aparicio  11:47

They’re doing a second chat steel, and you see in the offices, yeah, picking the colors.

Luke Jones  11:51

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I mean, literally, like, I mean, face it. Now they’ve, they have made a couple subtle things here and there, right? 2004 they introduced the all black uniform. They they introduced the color rush, just like the rest of the NFL, about a gym ago.

Nestor Aparicio  12:05

Really, really hated the gold pants.

Luke Jones  12:07

Oh, I totally hated to see, I

Nestor Aparicio  12:08

thought the gold pants had some sort of early 70s Redskins, Cleveland Browns, kind of quiet, like, I like that, early 70s

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Luke Jones  12:16

five I like, I just didn’t like it, all right. But in general, when

Nestor Aparicio  12:21

you as an alternate, you have black, gold, purple and white.

Luke Jones  12:25

And I think honestly, if my and I don’t know, like they’ve been very I mean, Sashi Brown was asked about this at the owners meetings about uniforms, and he wouldn’t even give a hint that this was coming.

Nestor Aparicio  12:36

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So creepy. But so one in third that

Luke Jones  12:39

said, I think you look at their home uniforms and their road uniforms and okay, like the black pants they feed, they’ve featured more often than not at different times. But those jerseys, generally speaking, you go back to the late 90s, and they’ve that’s kind of been their look. So Well, the white

Nestor Aparicio  12:59

of Super Bowl 35 I never loved that jersey until they won the Super Bowl. And to me, they they always needed purple pants, I thought, or a purple They added that, and a purple helmet, right? And I thought the purple pants were very Barney of the color, yeah. And I don’t want to look like the Vikings, but it took on more of a blueberry look than it did, sort of violet, you know, or even, like a tougher

Luke Jones  13:27

coloring on your TV, too, if you’re watching or

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Nestor Aparicio  13:30

if you bought one of those Chinese jerseys that were a little bit of those sugs, they’re running around everywhere, right? But to me, that dark purple of the first the Peter bullware, John Ogden, 9899 that because I used to stand next to goose when he’s sweating and when they sweat through it, it had a darker violet about it in the locker room afterward than it did on TV. And then the fans, when I would see them out, I really believe the purple changed. Yeah, you know that the purple became more toenail polish purple than it was, like Jersey purple. I mean, so for me, the white on white, I took to it because they won Super Bowl 35 in it. But I always felt like when I think of Dwayne Starks or Kim herring, or those players in that jersey, I think that would have pop with a purple helmet. Then they get the purple helmet, they put the kiss bird on, and the kiss birds too small. And I just Yeah. And so you know what?

Luke Jones  14:29

I’d like to see if, if there has been a compromise, some kind of agreement, worked out with the original flying bee logo. I’d love to see that on a purple helmet as the, not as their new helmet, but as the alternate helmet, I think that would look pretty I think that looked pretty cool. Well, because I’ve seen some in the modern era.

Nestor Aparicio  14:47

We’ve seen mock ups and fake mock ups. Yeah, the kiss head was out, especially

Luke Jones  14:51

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with AI now. I mean, you could do that stuff well.

Nestor Aparicio  14:53

And also the autograph people, you know, they Ray Lewis has been signing Purple Helmets for 25 years old. Yeah? Major. Bastardized all of those things on the internet, but what they actually wear in the game? This is going to be a fascinating, yeah, real mind, and it doesn’t how dramatic in any way feel necessary to me as a Ravens fan or someone who’s got a closet full of Raven stuff that I’m looking to sell, by the way, if you’re interested, it’ll be on eBay soon, because I don’t wear any of it anymore, but I will look through my box of Raven stuff over 30 years and say, whatever they’re bringing next week, it better look better than some of it, because if you’re not upgrading it, I don’t, what are you doing?

Luke Jones  15:33

I don’t want it to look dramatically different. And what I mean by that is, think of like 1997 Steelers. They remember Nike was doing their uniform. And remember, this was an era when there were six different companies doing NFL uniforms for teams. I mean, like, you know, Russell athletic or starter, you know, the Ravens had charter for a while, and then they went to Nike, but the Steelers changed their number font. And, I mean, it was different, but they were still the Steelers, like you could still see there was Steelers. I don’t want this to be something that suddenly they look like a USF protein purple has kind of become marginalized, and they’re just wearing all black now.

Nestor Aparicio  16:14

And I’ve never liked jerseys. First night was black, the black out and all that. That was nifty and Neo, and then it just became sort of like a little bit of a Terrell Suggs punch line, in the same way that the black Orioles jerseys in the in the 90s, first time I saw Messina where put that on in a locker room, like, Dude, you look sharp. Because they wore those in spring training. Right? They wore the right.

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Luke Jones  16:37

So those are their batting practice jerseys, yeah.

Nestor Aparicio  16:40

And they were really sure all those batting practice jerseys that are really sharp, and they took it on, and then it became this Friday night punch line thing, and I don’t know, man on, it didn’t help looking like a freaking big league team to looking like a bush league softball outfit. That’s when it jumps the shark for me. Yeah, it jumps the shark for me when you go from looking clean and classic to futuristic and pajamas, well,

Luke Jones  17:10

you lose, you don’t lose your identity. I mean, like, let’s face it, the Ravens relative to a lot of franchises that are way older than the Ravens with a 30 year history.

Nestor Aparicio  17:21

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The Packers and the bears,

Luke Jones  17:22

yeah, the Ravens have a very recognizable brand and identity, and it’s a big part of that is because they’ve kept their uniforms very much the same since 1997 okay, they changed the flying bee. They went to the Woody Woodpecker logo. That kind of just

Nestor Aparicio  17:38

became was always weird, because the B was opposite, yeah, on the other side of the helmet.

Luke Jones  17:43

But that said, if you just were, if you were turning on the TV from 1997 till today, the Ravens were playing, generally, you can recognize right away. It’s like some of those

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Nestor Aparicio  17:53

packers throwbacks. They like, Oh, sure.

Luke Jones  17:55

But even those were talking to like, once a year, or maybe they wear something like that four

Nestor Aparicio  18:00

o’clock in the afternoon. And you’re like, Who the hell is that? But I think

Luke Jones  18:03

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the thing that that I’m uneasy about is, I’ll give you my across the board. And this has been my complaint of college football, big time. Don’t mess up the number font to the point where you can’t read it. It’s one of my biggest pet peeves. I mean, we were just talking about the Orioles city connect, how the five looks like an upside down backwards, too. It is an

Nestor Aparicio  18:24

upside down backwards. Yeah, it is.

Luke Jones  18:26

But the difference, at least in baseball, is, generally speaking, reading a jersey number in real time isn’t a critical part enjoying the sport. Yeah. But in in football, and this has been a funny thing for a long time, because I’m out at practice every day for a long time now, the quarterbacks have worn a black jersey with a purple number on it, and for years and years, I’ve had people say, Man, I’d love to see the Ravens wear that in a game. I said, No, you wouldn’t. It looks good up close when we’re at the podium and Lamar Jackson six feet away from us, but when we’re a couple 100 feet away watching him try in practice, the sunlight has to hit it the right way, or you cannot read the number. So the last thing, and this has been a thing that college teams have been very guilty of. They put out these Gucci like, really? Oh, like, look how cool our uniform is. And then if you’re in the crowd or you’re watching it on TV and it’s the traditional sideline camera view, you can’t read the jersey numbers, and you can’t tell who has the ball.

Nestor Aparicio  19:24

So one that’s different, too in the pros are the things where linebackers are wearing zeros, and that’s absolutely single digits. So that’s

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Luke Jones  19:33

where I’m looking at this and saying, Okay, if you’re going to tweak the number font, which I’m guessing, that’s at a minimum, we’re going to see some stuff like that. Even if they’re not going to change their jerseys entirely, you’re going to see something like that at a minimum. And I, I think what you’re there’s been some rumors. I, I can’t remember the guy’s name. He’s kind of a uniform guy. On Twitter, apparently he saw a peak of it, which he’s got. He’s written about these things in the past. There’s been some talk that the Baltimore, you know. Flag will be implemented. Maybe they’re going to get rid of the shield. That’s been more of the Maryland

Nestor Aparicio  20:05

questions for some Baltimore people if

Luke Jones  20:07

they want to pimp ball. But the thing that, but the other thing I’ve wondered is maybe they go back to what they did at the beginning, which the first few years of the jerseys they had the outstretched bird with the wings on the sides of the jersey.

Nestor Aparicio  20:18

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I don’t know. I like that. That was a David mode.

Luke Jones  20:20

I kind of like, I like that better than the shield, actually, to be honest, on the jerseys. So we’ll see. But again, I’m leery, because Nike, in recent years, in recent years Nike, I feel like we either go too much in the direction of man, those look really bad, or in some cases they’re really, really dull, like look Jacksonville Jaguars are a great example of this right now. They they have their throwback like the mark Brunel Jersey in their in their collection, and they wear twice a year. It’s a great looking uniform look at their regular home and their regular role, like the brown, ugly. Gotten. The Browns were horrible for a while. What they have now is better. But my point is, I feel like we get either swinging too far into the abstract or,

Nestor Aparicio  21:14

you know, the only one that I want, like, really boring, the Bengals go with that white. That’s hot. Yeah, that’s a great looking

Luke Jones  21:20

I do like theirs. But here’s the other thing I wouldn’t want for the ravens, like I wouldn’t want them to just go to plain block numbers either, because they’ve you’re accustomed to seeing the numbers that they’ve had for almost three decades. Serif, right? Exactly. But the 1996 one had a more dramatic serif that was actually tough to read. I I wonder if we’re gonna see a throwback uniform, like a 1996 jersey, whether they get the flying b i

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Nestor Aparicio  21:48

obviously would endorse, would be cool,

Luke Jones  21:51

not as they’re not to become their permanent home jersey, but wear that once a year. What home your

Nestor Aparicio  21:56

homecoming looks here? By the way, we’re faith these man,

Luke Jones  21:59

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we’re nerding it out big time. But what? What a

Nestor Aparicio  22:02

week out on this? And you know, obviously we’ll have the unveiling. You expect this to have some retro feeling and not to be off the deep end? I hope not.

Luke Jones  22:13

I mean, that’s a wishful thinking. Okay, I think. I mean, Sashi Brown has been asked the last few years about it, and he’s also, at times when he’s been asked in the past, and Steve’s even talked about it at a couple different times in passing, that they also have taken pride in having a brand that’s become recognizable, like to the point we were just talking about how they’ve had uniforms that haven’t been, you know, other than an alternate or a little tiny tweak here or there, have largely been the same never taken ideal about

Nestor Aparicio  22:44

looking like the tiger.

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Luke Jones  22:46

So, so I think you want to be careful not to completely damage that, and to the point where it’s like, all right? It says they’re the Ravens. Maybe they’re still wearing purple and black, but that looks nothing

Nestor Aparicio  22:58

like I don’t want to look like the northwestern

Luke Jones  23:01

So, and that’s what I’m kind of hoping for. I’m hoping for less is more, because I think there are some cool tweaks you could do that. Hey, that’s, that’s a good idea, you know, add the 1996 9798 bird to the side of the jersey. Or change up, you know, change up the the alternate helmet logo. As I said, I’d love to see the flying be back and and when they were, when they teased this initially, they did show that logo a few more times than they normally have over the years. So I, I didn’t know if that was an Easter egg, kind of previewing, you know, what’s to come, or maybe it was just coincidence.

Nestor Aparicio  23:33

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But, and in other news, they’ll draft a week after that, and they will right schedule, and they’re playing in Brazil, right? So, yeah. So that Brazil game. Do you think it’s gonna be the Friday night to open the season?

Luke Jones  23:43

No, no, no, no. They play that in the middle of the season. Think so. Because I thought the

Nestor Aparicio  23:47

Eagles opened the season in Brazil a couple years ago because they were trying to, like, they get it out, you know, played maybe that that Friday or that Saturday, so that they have extra time they’re allowed to

Luke Jones  23:57

play on. Didn’t that? I don’t know. I don’t think that got, like, they kind of got the until later on in the year, when high school and college football.

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Nestor Aparicio  24:04

So there would be a buy before or after this Brazil

Luke Jones  24:07

guy would assume, so, yeah. I mean, I would think so, but

Nestor Aparicio  24:11

an outrageous flight from from a non stop perspective, maybe not. I bet it’s probably 10 hour nine or 10 hours. It’s probably it’s

Luke Jones  24:17

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not out, right? Not terribly different than London,

Nestor Aparicio  24:19

then not going to date, right?

Luke Jones  24:23

I mean, yeah, so I, I

Nestor Aparicio  24:25

just kind of assume, like, well, maybe that’s going to be the second kickoff game. Well, because it involves Lamar, it involves that. Well, they’re

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Luke Jones  24:30

doing the Wednesday they’re doing a Wednesday night season opener, which I know, oh,

Nestor Aparicio  24:34

they’re doing Wednesday,

Luke Jones  24:35

because they’re doing the Australia game.

Nestor Aparicio  24:38

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That’s the Thursday. So I

Luke Jones  24:40

don’t think they’re doing that’s rams and 40 Niners, right?

Nestor Aparicio  24:44

Sorry, okay, yeah, so, but, well, this is all the news. I mean, they’re gonna pick that. They’re not gonna deal back, yeah, they don’t have Max Crosby. So they got,

Luke Jones  24:55

they have their other pick. They need some more alignment. I’ll continue to say that. I mean, there’s still. So many people talking about wide receivers and tight ends, and look, they may end up doing that. I’m not going to sit here and say that I’m privy to know what how the board’s going to fall, but I’ll say what I said to you the other day, and by the way, someone reached out and said they really liked that line. I said, fiscal responsibility can’t line up at Center for you. I think I want

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Nestor Aparicio  25:17

a less tackle if possible, because I think that’s the long term play. While long term play would be make Ronnie Stanley play guard, you know, oh, you know. I mean, I

Luke Jones  25:27

thought, I thought it’d be the opposite.

Nestor Aparicio  25:29

You know, I’m saying, like,

Luke Jones  25:31

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to me spirit, to that Sure. I mean, it’s got to be the right guy. I mean, I’m not saying they’re

Nestor Aparicio  25:35

getting John Ogden at 15 or whatever, but I’m saying, like, if you were to get that, I would feel more fortified about that. But if you get another Linder bomb, you’re gonna get another center in the first wherever you

Luke Jones  25:47

get, none of the centers really. Yeah. I mean, there’s not a Linder bomb, and, like, I think there are

Nestor Aparicio  25:52

four special guy then, and he’s a special

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Luke Jones  25:55

guy center of five legitimate center prospects.

Nestor Aparicio  25:58

But let’s not, let’s not, let’s not minimize the fact that they drafted a guy, they took it center in the first round, which, how many teams are taking centers in the first round last 20 years? I mean, that doesn’t happen often. Happen a whole lot.

Luke Jones  26:10

So when you take that hadn’t drafted a

Nestor Aparicio  26:13

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center guy and put him, Hey, man, dude won an MVP and got cheated out of another one with that guy playing center, right? So, yeah, so sure, in a general sense, incredibly successful draft pick got priced out of it. Yeah, you should hope to get that lucky again. Yeah, and now Tyler Linda Baum might be going to the Hall of Fame before it’s all over, but it might be.

Luke Jones  26:32

It’s just tough though, because had a

Nestor Aparicio  26:35

better four years than yonda had his first four.

Luke Jones  26:37

How about that? Yeah? Well, injuries, injuries, yeah, absolutely, you never know beyond this, like

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Nestor Aparicio  26:43

a thought to be a lock to go to the Hall of Fame.

Luke Jones  26:44

I mean, I think so, right? You know, sooner than later, but yeah, I mean, it’s just, it’s tough, because for me, other than a first round pick, man, it’s risky business if you’re drafting someone in the second or the third round or early in the fourth and thinking that guy’s going to play and play a lot for you as

Nestor Aparicio  27:04

a rookie, Rosengarten would be the fringe of what and he

Luke Jones  27:08

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did that and that, and like kudos to them, he was, he was a legit starting caliber right tackle better than Johnson was almost right out of the gate. But, man, it’s tough to plan that way. You know, even that year, they still had McCary. That began the year as the right tackle, right? So, I mean, hardball loves

Nestor Aparicio  27:27

him some far lately,

Luke Jones  27:29

yeah, who didn’t see that coming? I mean, come on now. I mean, I would have been, I would have been more playing card, because John

Nestor Aparicio  27:34

loved him, right? I mean, like, literally, John

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Luke Jones  27:37

ran the bill, but they also didn’t have anyone else. I mean, like, and this is where I get a little fatigued with the people that were ready for har ball to be gone. It’s like, look, I don’t think John was trying to sabotage the guard position. And thought, oh my gosh, I’m going to play Daniel file Layla, even though two of our backups are better, like, get out of here, they didn’t have anyone better. That was a problem. Emory Jones might be better this year, now that he’ll be healthy and have a full spring and a full summer.

Nestor Aparicio  28:03

Ben Cleveland, Billick didn’t get along with Phil Savage, and one of the reasons was, Phil savage drafted Chris Redmond and said he can play. Phil savage drafted to Ron Jenkins, said he could play. So there were differences in regard to, hey man, you’re drafting guys that are getting me fired or getting me or getting me eight and nine. And let’s

Luke Jones  28:25

face it, no matter how in lockstep, a GM, a head coach, college scouting director like go down the list of everyone in the front office and every head coach and their coordinators, you’re never going to have full agreement, right? There are always going to be questions you want to try to scrimmage it as much. Scrimmage it as much as possible. You certainly don’t want to set an example where a GM drafts a quarterback that the head coach has no belief

Nestor Aparicio  28:49

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in whatsoever, that Johnny Manziel, that’s

Luke Jones  28:51

toxic, right? That’s toxic. But you are going to have situations where

Nestor Aparicio  28:54

Johnny Manziel cost Mike Pett and his career.

Luke Jones  28:56

I mean, to sit here and say that there weren’t going to be some disagreements from time to time with you know how Eric to Costa felt, or how Ozzy Newsome felt, compared to what you get to come back and

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Nestor Aparicio  29:06

say you were wrong when Ben Cleveland can’t wait sure, when Perryman can’t get on the field or, well, you know, whatever those issues are. But part of that is also

Luke Jones  29:15

you need to scrimmage those things so that come draft night, when you’re on the clock, he’s your both. You have to have to understand, He’s our guy, what the consensus is, right? So, and I think they did for the most part, like I don’t, is there, not at this point, shame on Eric, but shame on Eric in a general sense, and for right now, and we’ve said this, I’m guessing Jesse Minter probably isn’t making too many of his conflicted opinions made known like he’s probably not rocking the boat quite as much as he will five years from now, if he is a good coach, right? I mean, that’s John Harbaugh. Gained more clout.

Nestor Aparicio  29:51

It’s his department, right?

Luke Jones  29:54

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Yeah. But, I mean, it’s but this is the structure they have, right? When you have a side by side. Side, GM, head coach, both answer to the owner. You do have to do some of these, some of this scrimmaging. And they’ve even, they’ve talked about this. They’re big guys that they fought over before and like, like, it’s okay,

Nestor Aparicio  30:14

sell in that in that room. I mean, now they’re all Kumbaya and all that. But we’re going to change our entire offense, and

Luke Jones  30:20

we’re going to run though it was easier when it was a 32nd pick. If they were drafted, if they had drafted him in the middle of the first round, like Hayden Hurst, that probably would have been a little bit of a different scrimmage, you know, a different argument there. But I think they all were on board with, Hey, we’ve got an opportunity here to do something really interesting. I think they all were and, you know, it worked out pure. It worked out better than anyone could have imagined, right?

Nestor Aparicio  30:46

So you better if they sign him again, right?

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Luke Jones  30:48

Sure, that’s another we’re gonna see how that all

Nestor Aparicio  30:50

works out. But any prediction on that in regard to cap relief, and in regard to his desire to want more years, or theirs to say we’re in for you two years from now. Let’s see how you make it with the new coach. I mean, I just

Luke Jones  31:05

think you still come come back to

Nestor Aparicio  31:06

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who’s going to be your quarterback.

Luke Jones  31:09

And I know I’ve said that a lot, that today question,

Nestor Aparicio  31:13

not a two years. No, I understand based on how they finish, how they play,

Luke Jones  31:17

how the coach. I’ve said this for a while now. I’ve said it, I’ve alluded to it on the air, and I’ll take the filter off here. Do we know for sure? And this isn’t, this isn’t me saying Lamar doesn’t want to be here long term. Because I don’t think that’s the case. He He could have forced the issue way more at some point here this off season, but he goes in

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Nestor Aparicio  31:38

his heart of hearts, if he believes he’s a raven for life, or if he thinks he’s going to be a journeyman in his third house. I mean, Flacco didn’t see himself playing for eight more teams for 15 more years. I mean,

Luke Jones  31:48

Lamar is definitely not thinking that way, nor should he at this point in time. I mean, you know, he just he’s coming off of a bad year for him, and go look at those numbers compared to most quarterbacks. Most quarterbacks would still kill to do what Lamar did in 2025 I mean, it’s just the truth. However, I do wonder if there’s something to be said knowing where he is now. So he’s now less than two calendar years away from hitting free agency. He has a no trade clause. He has a no franchise tag clause, which I think that’s the way more significant one here. You know, if he says he wants to be traded, and we get to next off season and he says he wants to be traded, I mean, like, are the Ravens gonna really just let it play out? And potentially, he walks for a third, third round comp pick, and that’s all you get? No, I do wonder, and this is not me saying he’s not he that he didn’t like the Jesse Minter higher, or he doesn’t like Declan Doyle, or anything like that. I do wonder if there’s something to be said for him, that he’s come this far and he’s now less than two you’re

Nestor Aparicio  32:46

feeling out like if there’s still the right see what this

Luke Jones  32:49

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looks like. Yeah. And then next offseason, okay, let’s go sign I like Jesse, Declan Doyle. Maybe I had another MVP year. Maybe we made it to the AFC title game.

Nestor Aparicio  32:59

Maybe I forgot his name. Yeah. So you Declan? So, yes.

Luke Jones  33:02

So I do wonder if there’s some merit to the idea that Lamar is. Look, he was content a few years back to wait it out. Right? I mean, that was the that was the frustration on the Raven side,

Nestor Aparicio  33:15

always got more money when he’s waited

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Luke Jones  33:16

so that said he’s in his he’s entering his age

Nestor Aparicio  33:20

29 season. They’re not the sport going on strike this year, right? Baseball, sure.

Luke Jones  33:25

Psychologically officials, which you and I haven’t talked about much, and frankly, I don’t want, I don’t even want to think about that. That was so bad in 2012 we all remember that Monday night.

Nestor Aparicio  33:35

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Bail, Mary, I remember talking to Matt Burke. This out.

Luke Jones  33:38

Please, please. This is Philadelphia.

Nestor Aparicio  33:41

I think that was crazy. You and

Luke Jones  33:43

I will nerd it up talking about baseball labor. I don’t want to talk about NFL referee labor. I just don’t like it’s just not fun. But I prefer the abs. But I do wonder if there’s a little bit of that at work, or when the draft dust settles and Lamar goes through OTAs and mandatory mini camp, and they get to mid, late June, when, when they had their five weeks off, maybe they, maybe they knock out an extension then. And if they do great, and maybe Lamar going through some spring and saying, Hey, I like Jesse minnner. I like the vibe. I like Declan Doyle. I like what we’ve done in the draft. And maybe he says, Hey, let’s do it. Because I will continue to say this, and we’ve talked about this a lot, when you have an existing deal already in place, hypothetically, it should be way easier to just tweak the structure.

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Nestor Aparicio  34:34

Well, especially if they’re gonna give you $50 million to sign your name and sign it for two

Luke Jones  34:39

more years. Can be more than that. You can

Nestor Aparicio  34:40

still run. Well, I’m talking like, real money. I gotcha signing money, and then say, All right, if I’m pissed off a year from now, I can, I’ll just leave. I mean, that’s always that’s what these, these college coaches do, yeah, give me a 10 year deal. And you know, when I’m pissed off and ready to go, I go with coach at LSU. I was late. I don’t even need to rip it up. They leave after two years. You guarantee me everything. It’s like a bad marriage, and I can divorce you and have, you know, have a prenup. Yeah, it’s crazy, so I don’t know. So, like,

Luke Jones  35:09

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I don’t know. I mean, we’re gonna have to see it. It could happen at some point here between now now and week one, or we could be talking about the same exact

Nestor Aparicio  35:19

but it doesn’t help them necessarily, in any way other than re massaging other deals along the

Luke Jones  35:25

their cap is, I mean, his cap numbers quite low right now. His cap number is lower this year than it was. So what I’m saying is the there’s no urgency

Nestor Aparicio  35:35

to do. It wouldn’t be like, Oh, now we’re going to have $8 million laying around to go sign that last guard that’s out there. That’s seitler kind of player that we could improve the offensive line with money instead of with washed up guys, yeah, or with

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Luke Jones  35:53

a draft pick. I mean, I said this to you before this even played out, when we were still talking about whether an extension was going to get done before the start of the new league year. There’s actually merit to the idea that not signing Lamar into an extension actually gives them more cap space for right now. I think any extension as it would be constructed, if you did it right now, would actually they build some more cap into this year because you want to have less pain.

Nestor Aparicio  36:19

The reason I’m even asking about this is because the Costa has this proclivity to trade and move around on draft weekend, if they’re on the clock Friday night, with a third round pick and a team. And I’m going to use Zeitler as an example, Morgan Moses,

Luke Jones  36:33

the next version that’s like next version

Nestor Aparicio  36:35

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that’s a 31 year old guy that’s really under contract with the bills or Vikings or the saints or whatever. And he’s a really good players left on his day. He’s a really good player. And you got to take him on as a $12 million guard or a $9 million guard, to trade a third round pick and say, give me the contract and I can eat the contract. And I have a starting right guard. Have a start you know, I have not Marshall yonda, but I got a really good player here next Kevin is that’s one of the ways in my mind, that the cost is going to fix the team. Good is going to be not getting a free agent or a washed up cut guy or a cap casualty cut guy in camp, but to walk into this thing may 1 and say we turned our third round pick into a starting guard, but we had to throw $10 million at it, because we got to pay that player, yeah, and in all

Luke Jones  37:26

honesty, might not be a third. It could be that could be an early that could be a fourth. You know what? I mean, like so, but yeah, I could see a scenario like that, and they have cap space to do it. I mean, they really do.

Nestor Aparicio  37:34

I mean, in the same way that they could deal Mark Andrews for a fourth round pick to get rid of his contract if they drafted a tight end in the second round, they felt better. But that would not that anybody would want. Well, this kiss contracts onerous at this point. I don’t know that the whole world would want him to trade something for. I mean, it was a three

Luke Jones  37:51

year deal. It’s basically a two you’re not getting ready. You’re not doing that now, because it would that cap number would accelerate, correct? So, so, But your point is well, taken. So I’m talking about dealing for

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Nestor Aparicio  38:03

somebody else’s Mark Andrews is a guard,

Luke Jones  38:05

sure, that’s what I mean, established player. I think I don’t know, you know, you put me on the spot. So I don’t know exactly

Nestor Aparicio  38:11

who that might be. Well, Derek does.

Luke Jones  38:14

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I think back to what was it the Oh, for draft. They traded for Kevin Johnson on, you know, wide receiver, the wide receiver for the browns. Well, we didn’t have anything around

Nestor Aparicio  38:22

here, and then all of a sudden, Zeitler and Morgan Moses solidified the right side of the line good enough to win Lamar and MVP. Yeah, yeah, no.

Luke Jones  38:28

But I was, I was just giving an example of, you know, they’ve done, they’ve done draft weekend trades for a veteran player before, not, not many. But like I said, Kevin that, wait, that was the to year. Remember, they got Kevin Johnson from the browns. He was good. Here’s a Syracuse guy. That’s why I remembered him. But wasn’t good for the Ravens. Didn’t work out for them, but they traded what was it? A fourth round pick, fifth round pick, something like that. So is there? Is there a move

Nestor Aparicio  38:55

like trying to do that for a starting player?

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Luke Jones  38:57

Would be put it this way. If they were to do that, I’d feel more confident in that veteran player playing guard than whoever they might draft, which maybe becomes that guy, but you don’t know if he’s going to be got Emery so I mean, they just, I’m very against just handing them the starting job, though, that you know what? I mean, it’s gonna be interesting

Nestor Aparicio  39:19

camping that way. Luke Jones is here. We’re here at Fayette lease all brought to my friends at the Maryland lottery. I finally have the Maryland treasures. This was an art competition. These are like real artists that put these together. I’m tickled to have them. We’ve given away a whole big stack of them. We’re down to Lexington market today. We’re going to be cost us on Thursday, the 16th in Timonium. Got a bunch of guests for that show. 23rd we’re going to be over Koco’s Pub, looking forward to get back to laurelville. I get my cocoa coconut shrimp over there, and then on the first of May, we’re back at Pizza John’s in Essex. That’s on a Friday. And I’m really looking forward to that as well. I have a lot of political candidates, Baltimore County Executive candidates, Pat Dyer’s coming by, Nick Stewart’s coming by. I’m going to work on Julian and Pat and Izzy and anybody else that’s out. There, as well as some city officials as well city city connects are out. NFL Raven jerseys are coming on Thursday. We have the draft two weeks from now. Any breaking news? Weapon first on the wnst tech service, Luke gets at that out to you. It’s all brought to you by cold roofing and Gordian energy. Did I leave anything out?

Luke Jones  40:18

I think you covered it all. What a time to be alive. I mean, hey, NFL schedule will be coming out in about a month. I think what mid May has kind of become the kind of, sort of, you know, when they unveil that now, it used to be the week of the draft, they pushed it back. So, you know, there’s a lot, it’s not a whole lot on the field going on, other than the Orioles early in the season, but the next month, there’s a lot of that. You know, uniforms, draft schedule, Brazil, NFL Brazil, right? I mean all that. So, yeah, it’s a lot going on, and it’ll be interesting. Like I said, I’m kind of, I’m nervous about the Ravens uniforms.

Nestor Aparicio  40:56

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Like, don’t be freaked if I took you to Rio, wouldn’t you? You work it in your Portuguese. Yeah, that see, really, not real, real. Like, I loved Rio, but Rio was really dodgy, yeah. Like, I’m a guy who just came back from Santiago, more than anything, Cartagena. Cartagena was dodgy as F more

Luke Jones  41:15

my reservation would be more. So, like, I’m hoping the Orioles Are they better be playing meaningful baseball. And you know what I mean, like, because it’s what we it’s week three. I think it is okay. So, you know, I’m hoping I’m gonna be busy covering baseball

Nestor Aparicio  41:29

rather than feeling better about baseball. Or, you know, we will see I mean, I’m not they got a chance. I’m not

Luke Jones  41:35

overly down on I wrote in my column today.

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Nestor Aparicio  41:37

I’m like, they’re not a bad team.

Luke Jones  41:39

I will continue to go back to what I

Nestor Aparicio  41:41

saw, as bad as we saw in Pittsburgh last weekend.

Luke Jones  41:43

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I know that my concerns are the bullpen, the bullpen, the defense and the Zac, EFL and things definitely a bummer now, because, because that’s just a lot in here. You know, I didn’t think he was going to throw 180 for them, but I thought there was a chance he could throw 130 140 maybe 150 you know, being a veteran guy, I mean, I, you hear me talk a lot about ceiling and floor guys, I think he was a little bit of both. I mean, I mean, he started a playoff game for the Orioles two years ago opening day start. You know, he was their fifth starter to open the year.

Nestor Aparicio  42:14

So he never felt like a washed up guy to me, and Basset doesn’t either. Yet, I hope not. Yeah, he’s got W

Luke Jones  42:20

Well, I was, I will say this with efflin out of the picture now he’s got better. They need boss and they need

Nestor Aparicio  42:27

Bassett to be their best self. Legit, yes.

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Luke Jones  42:29

And he was better this last time out. They need Bradish to be, you know, right there with Trevor Rogers. Trevor Rogers can be the ace. Trevor Rogers been great for coming up on close to a year, and they’re starting to count on that, but they need Bradish to be side by side with him. If remember,

Nestor Aparicio  42:45

we cannon burns for the first three months, and then he went into the tank for a month. When your one goes in the tank, that’s when you start backing up, because you got to have that start every fifth day. I don’t think especially when the rest of it’s a little bit more of a box of chocolates. Funny you mentioned, it is a box of chocolates when it’s Brandon young and Kate Povich, Dean

Luke Jones  43:00

Kramer, it’s fun. It’s funny. You mentioned burns, though, because I was just thinking, because I was thinking like, man, the Orioles got what, three and two thirds innings out of Zach Eflin for $10 million well, Arizona committed the deal. They did the Corbin burns, and he made 11 starts last year, and he’s not gonna touch the ball. No, he’ll pitch, but probably not till, I mean, if he does, it’s going to be like the Brad ish Tyler sucks

Nestor Aparicio  43:24

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about being a baseball fan at this time in life. It’s like what Strasburg could have been. I mean, for landers and the insurers that hang on and do this forever, but like to see the effluents fall apart at Tommy John at this point in their

Luke Jones  43:37

career, you wonder if he makes it back? Right? Yeah. I mean, look at John. Means Right, right. There’s a guy who never ended up making any real money, bautistas in that multiple injuries. I mean, my goodness. And they were great. And John, John means through a no hitter. I mean, like we, we kind of overlook it a little bit, because that was, you know, the tail end of the covid protocols. And they were so bad.

Nestor Aparicio  43:58

Scott McGregor, Mike Flanagan, way he would be in the rotation now, 80 million a year, and he’d be there three star. They wouldn’t have needed to

Luke Jones  44:06

sign Chris Bassett, because John means would be their

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Nestor Aparicio  44:09

number one that needed to sign freaking Corbin burns two years ago, they would have had a guy. I don’t

Luke Jones  44:12

know if he was that, but he was at least going to be a guy. Yeah, he was going to be a guy that you just penciled in right? And we feel

Nestor Aparicio  44:19

like Bradish and Rogers are right this minute. They all break. We like to think boss is for the money they gave. I hate to

Luke Jones  44:24

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sound fatalistic, but they all break, and it’s

Nestor Aparicio  44:26

just, I’m gonna take a break. That’s why you need to

Luke Jones  44:28

develop cheap, controllable starters who are not going to blow up your payroll when they get take a break.

Nestor Aparicio  44:35

Get your crab cake. We’re here. Fadeley’s loop is here. Jersey’s schedule baseball, Camden Yards that cover it all. Oh, Maryland, lottery tickets all brought to you by friends. GBMC, I have my doctor’s appointment next week after next, my first checkup since I’ve known Luke. That’s true. Wow, slacking. My wife went to the doctor so much for two years that I just don’t go to the doctors. Do I look on how. The look, it’s not a good thing though. I’m going, that’s why you want to

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Luke Jones  45:03

have those preventative and, you know, I say this, my mom’s dead. I should listen to your mom. I say this because it wasn’t until about three years ago I had gone like, eight years without a physical. I’m like, This is not smart, especially with my family history and everything so but yeah, get the get the physical, get the preventative. You doing your GDP yoga, yeah.

Nestor Aparicio  45:21

All right, you looking then I don’t see you all. We’re like, we’re Bernie.

Luke Jones  45:26

I thought you were gonna say the opposite. I’m like, geez. I mean, I did. I did have some Easter candy and everything, but I lost South America.

Nestor Aparicio  45:34

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Well, I got to Colombia, and I woke up the morning after Bogota said on road like 10 days, and I put my pants on. I had the lead Zeppelin, you were walking like 30 pants out, and it was like three inches, like, my pants didn’t fit anymore. And then I came home, and I got on a scale, and I was down 10 pounds. I told you, Machu

Luke Jones  45:52

Picchu was cool. I had relatives who did that trip before covid. Maybe, I think it,

Nestor Aparicio  45:59

it’s really cool. They loved it. That was really cool. Yeah, so you’d like that. And I, and, you know, my wife was shocked when I threw it on the she’s in Florence, Italy, eating food, making it, making pasta right now, but, you know, I threw it in the middle, she’s like, you’re gonna go to Machu Picchu. You don’t even like the woods. I’m like, I got three days in the middle of Peru. What am I gonna do? I’m either gonna go to bulimar, I’m gonna go to Machu Picchu. And the Machu Picchu thing, when I put it in my clone and my AI, the altitude was really problematic. It’s 11,000 feet. It’s like, Dude, you need

Luke Jones  46:29

to get there and get mile high and then Mile High.

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Nestor Aparicio  46:31

Yeah, to my highs. So like you and my friends that went there told gave me some advice, and that’s the one place I hired a tour guide because I didn’t want to land and be fainting with no help. I needed, you know, I needed, so I did great with the I didn’t have any altitude issues at all. Matter of fact, when I got to Machu Picchu, I did radio with you. We did Max Crosby segment, Machu Picchu. So another one

Luke Jones  46:57

of those. What a time to be alive. Periods, yes, all

Nestor Aparicio  47:01

right, the football off season is in motion. The baseball season is in gear. Luke is here. He’s going to the ballpark. Word Faith is going to come back. Shana Hernandez gonna be our guest. She represents the Baltimore markets, including this market, Alexei in the market where I am getting I had a crab cake, french fries, and don’t ever sleep on the cucumber salad down here. And then mac and cheese, really good, too. And I am a shrimp salad nut at that’s what I’m taking home. Shrimp Salad. My cattle like that. Back for more. We’re failing stay with us. We are Baltimore positive in the Maryland crab cake tour.

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