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The Maryland Crab Cake Tour returned to Kooper’s North in Timonium to discuss all of the reasons to get back to the original Kooper’s Tavern in Fell’s Point for this week’s big Fleet Week celebration. Let our old friend Patrick Russell tell you how the folks at Broadway and Thames plan to welcome the ships and flyovers.


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Patrick Russell, Nestor J. Aparicio, Kylie Russell

Nestor J. Aparicio  00:00

Oh, welcome home we are W n s t test motor more Baltimore positive. We’re positively out on the road in Baltimore County. We’ll be in the city next week. It’s all brought to you by our friends at the Maryland lottery. I have PacMan scratch offs to give away. $20 Winter over here. We got people getting rich out here. We’re Cooper’s north. We are in Mays chapel. I keep saying like less Timonium West Cockeysville just crossed 83 It is not our first rodeo. It is not our first gumbo here today. It’s all brought to you by Liberty pure solutions. They’re located up here as well keeping my water nice and clean. I’ve had some crystal clean water your Cooper’s north as well as our friends at Jiffy Lube multi care and I’m going to find some Jiffy Lube prompts. Patrick Russell’s been my friend for how long what? How long did Cooper live? Cooper the dog? I see the picture in the back. Yeah, Cooper lived a nice healthy life. But I remember Cooper running around Cooper’s back in the day what error are we talking here? Homicide error, right? I


Patrick Russell  00:57

mean, so Cooper was was actually born in 95 When I got married. Okay, so he was with us until 2004. Okay, so he lived about 10 1011 years. Yeah, okay, five. Yeah. Well,

Nestor J. Aparicio  01:11

he has spawned a second location and a love for the restaurant business. I mean, I’ve had you on many times talking about city issues, talking about Fells Point, talking about festivals. I think we used to do Fells Point festival a once in a while down there, you bring the bands in rock and roll bands. Fleet Week is something that it was my wife’s favorite thing. Right? So I live 19 years on the 23rd floor of harbor court. So when Fleet Week and the IRL two, when the IRL came through is really loud. But when those jets would go by, we would try to take pictures and they move too fast to take a picture. Right. And the city Fleet Week I don’t think people understand. You hear it, you feel it in your chest, right, like, and there’s no way to not like peek out and say, wow, you know, Blue Angels. Wow. Right. So that’s kind of the WoW of it. And then the ships come in. We’ve had celebration with amazing things. But to get the word out about coming back into the cities, what I do with the baseball team, the football team concert, CFG Bank Arena, this is one of those sorts of fleet weeks is something that they dreamed up forever to bring people into the city to patronize not just Fells Point, but the whole city.

Patrick Russell  02:23

The whole city. I mean, it gets wrapped around the harbor just goes on in Harbor East. Yeah, so, you know, this hasn’t been Fleet Week hasn’t hasn’t happened since it’s before. COVID Do you know that

Nestor J. Aparicio  02:36


I was the last time I remembered happened. I got invited to like the Marriott waterfront and yeah, it was guy. Everybody did a big party down there. And they brought the Blue Angels in. So I got pictures with a nice, you know, everything about the harbor that’s important, like with the with the ships, and harborplace and all the things we talked about with the mayor and all that these events that we set up. I mean, the light festival light city was beautiful. I mean, I’ve had you on for all of these things involved in

Patrick Russell  03:06

all of it. We we Cooper’s in slideshow, get anything that city does, we try to get behind? We’ve got to bring folks back.

Nestor J. Aparicio  03:13

Well, it’s these kinds of events that I mean, you and I are similar age, obviously similar background, but we are familiar with all the machinations of politics. We saw a football team leave and come back, you know, the baseball team move in the stadium and all this stuff. But the city fair, right, the Fourth of July. City fair, right? New Year’s Eve and fireworks, right? I mean, Halloween. Well, Halloween for Fells Point became. And that’s sort of a built in holiday, but I’m thinking of dreamed up, manufactured. We’re going to have a festival. We’re going to have a light city. We’re going to have an arts festival. Everybody vendors get together and fails. But what’s history, the Fells Point festival. October of every year is right around my birthday, Columbus. Thank

Patrick Russell  03:57

you for speaking about tau


Nestor J. Aparicio  03:59

when did that start?

Patrick Russell  04:00

It started in the 70s. And he was there to put money together to avoid having a highway come through.

Nestor J. Aparicio  04:08

Oh, that’s a Barbara Mikulski. Yeah. Yeah. Well, she’s come on the show and told me all about how that was, you know, Donald Trump is gonna be 95. Right? For you know, and like really going to be 90, like Mayor Schaefer was in on that. Yeah, like all of that, that went on preservation,

Patrick Russell  04:22


society stepped in. And they, they actually saved to Phil’s point to make it to keep to what it is. It’s grown, obviously, but I mean, the historic nature of Fells Point. There’s nothing else like in the city.

Nestor J. Aparicio  04:35

Tell everybody your because I don’t really know like if I’d say, you know, I sort of know political leanings. I sort of know anger with the city. I know how great your food is. I know how great your gumbo we taught the soccer bar partisan, what made you fall in love with it? Good. Good job, buddy. Were you because you have a lacrosse background? But I really don’t know where you went to high school. I really don’t know how the dog in the bar happened. I met you through charity I I met you a charity bartending event with Lou Seda was one of the actors who came on my show. And Belzer was behind the bar. And you catered to those fellows because the set of homicide was there and you were your brand new bar then right? You

Patrick Russell  05:18

wasn’t even I was a bartender there. I bartended a temporary temper. I started Coopers in 97. But I started in Tim street Tavern in 91. I was a bartender in that building, and I bought it. seven or six years after I started working there and turned it into Cooper’s

Nestor J. Aparicio  05:35

why’d you become a bartender there? What was it about? Well, there’s money to be made Fells Point in those days on the weekends, right? People came down. It’s good, good place to work. Yeah. I mean,


Patrick Russell  05:42

honestly, Katie, my wife got me the job there. She had a friend that was a teacher, Nick Marrero, Everett, BiC. And he owned a Mexican joint and in like, Canton, and anyway, he was he was he knew a guy and they got me a job. And I got a job as a bartender, my wife got me the job at temporary tavern.

Nestor J. Aparicio  06:03

And you so you have a job now on cobblestone. It loved it. Loved. I love working all we sucked, right? Always

Patrick Russell  06:12

sucked. I mean, it’s terrible. Let me tell you back then. That building was the only it was it’s amazing what’s happened in Fells Point and Inner Harbor East and all around the city, for that matter. But But what’s happened, I mean, there was dilapidated buildings at the end of the block, where Inner Harbor East is right now sitting on a site of nothing. The Broadway period was a dump, is now just a gorgeous Hotel. bars and restaurants did not exist. Retail did not exist. I mean, it’s not one night, and then you want. There’s when I got down there, it is unbelievable what has happened.

Nestor J. Aparicio  06:48


That’s amazing. You’d say that, right? Because some people say, problems we have and things of this has gone downhill or I don’t go there. And I hear every up. I’m not going back to the city. I’m here to fight that, you know, the city doesn’t have that challenge. Name, one can’t. And I travel the world and every city has its challenges. But usually when I see it through the eyes, and the spirit that you just gave me, I’m that guy I was in your bar with your dog 30 years ago, and to tell people that that television set wasn’t a real police station, that it literally was a rat infested a completely abandoned building.

Patrick Russell  07:25

There was falling into the friggin harbor. It was

Nestor J. Aparicio  07:28

rusted out with nothing there and the level of involvement to make that the toniest place in the city to sit at the pool and have a drink and get done are stunning. And you’ve been there to witness so you you know what’s possible you know how good this can be? I’ve seen it all Yeah, so why that’s why people Baltimore positive that’s why the logos underneath you right?

Patrick Russell  07:51

I’m like you said I was at Memorial Stadium 33rd Street as a kid at the World Series games when we played the Phillies. And now you know, look at the stadium we have now it’s it’s amazing. I was here when the Colts played. And then when they win the we had the stallions and watch some of their games. And then the Ravens came in and played. I had 50 yard line seats at Memorial Stadium watching the Ravens the first two years and then I got PSL. So I’ve been I’ve been I’ve bought in to Baltimore. And I’m I’m actually you asked me a question earlier. I was raised in Pikesville. So right on the border of Mount Washington and Pikesville. So I went to well with elementary, high school, middle school, high school, public school guy, county sky. Yeah, nice County. You know, my, you know, my parents weren’t together and I grew up very poor and, you know, had to go get a job and get a job. But the USP when I started bartending, I was working at 13 across the street, the golf course. And then I was working at night when I got old enough to be a busboy at the Mount Washington tavern. It was my first job in the restaurant industry. Wow.


Nestor J. Aparicio  08:48

Ted running at that. Yeah, yeah. All right. So that’s the cross side of things.

Patrick Russell  08:51

I gotta tell you originally, I’ll tell you it is well, great turtle to ah, well green turtle came I think after him and I think the crease crease for sure. Yeah, a couple of couple guys. But Ted, I got a funny sort of tie about him if you don’t hear it. But while working there. My I was new, and it’s 15 years old busboy and you know, Ted was tough and everyone knew he was tough. And that’s

Nestor J. Aparicio  09:17

true. I did my show at the tavern for years I loved that

Patrick Russell  09:21


that guy has is he’s he’s I listen, I’m I love I love him. I’m not sure he does. But I do. He’s, I’m walking up the steps, the back steps. That’s a gauntlet and I’ve got two trays of glasses. And the floor is wet as I take each step and the waters from the glasses from the dishwasher right? I slipped and busted my chin on the on the glass racks and then slide down the steps. Ted comes out of his office looks down and looks at me and says Next time bring one but one case of water bottles messes up but don’t bring too. Not Hey, go wipe the blood off your face and get yourself getting Are you Okay, none of that. So I said, Okay, so a week later, I’m walking up with one tray of glasses slipped again and fell again. And he comes out. And he looks at me says one glass at a time. So, so every year he did a Kris Kringle for Christmas. And, of course, we had, I don’t know, 80 people that weren’t there. And we all picked the name out of the bag. I picked Tet. So I gotta get Ted a Christmas gift. Under

Nestor J. Aparicio  10:27

20, boxers or limited, whatever, whatever it was.

Patrick Russell  10:30

It was, yeah, whatever it was, but I got my mother who is the most creative person I’ve ever met. I say, Listen, I gotta, I gotta get this guy gift is my boss. I mean, I told her the stories you know about my trials and tribulations of being a busboy day when I cut my finger, you know, they said, don’t don’t cut the fruit this way I did. So she said, Well, you know, I have an idea. So she gets me a pair of ear muffs and a kettlebell. And she wraps it up, and she says, Give this to him. So I’ve wrapped it up, and I give it to him and everyone’s given up their

Nestor J. Aparicio  11:02

ear muffs and cowbell, I’m just trying to Okay, okay. And


Patrick Russell  11:06

I’m, again, I’m 15. The inferences back then weren’t the same as they are as you get older. So I didn’t know what the hell she was talking about. But why am I doing this? So she says, Well, now whenever Ted’s walk around the building, he’ll have that kettlebell run, you’ll know where he is. And when you drop the glasses, he won’t hear it cuz he’d be wearing the earmuffs.

Nestor J. Aparicio  11:25

I wouldn’t take think of that gift.

Patrick Russell  11:26

He freakin thought it was hilarious. No, I think that’s why he I don’t even know if he actually remembers that he might he might not but But you remember it? I remember because it was probably one of the funniest things I’ve done. So

Nestor J. Aparicio  11:38


you’ve never done anything else put this right. And this was this has been your life. Your life. Yeah, getting your with your bod. Like, people say to me, I mean, my I just did a video for 40 years of doing media. All I’ve ever done is work in a newspaper, work on the radio and run a radio station and try to promote businesses and promote I thought I was putting the Ravens in the Orioles. What I was really promote was the city. Really what I’m promoting is the good of the the land of pleasant living is what I’ve done. All you’ve ever done is try to make good food and good drinks. I mean, you reach to me, and I’m honored a couple of months ago, you reach me said we’re doing this crabcake thing and this fleet we think let’s get this that we haven’t done business. Let’s let’s do the show here. Let’s bring the lottery and let’s do all that because we’re trying to get Fleet Week is something bringing it back. This is something that every year should be like Preakness our little Super Bowl. These are little Super Bowls, these city fairs and these light cities and these and I think about Chicago when I worked in Chicago 20 years ago, syndicated they had there’s neighborhood festivals, right? Every Fells Point has a Fells Point festival. Every Dundalk has a heritage fair right. Taos and festival with Nancy does down here on on Derby Day every year they’ve been doing that for but these neighborhood festivals. They’re important and they are a lifeblood of bringing people together. Look, you

Patrick Russell  12:56

know, Ron and I started doing the oyster fest last year we did what we did fall festival. Just to get people back. And when people came back, we had a packed event and people loved it. Fleet Week I’m a board member of sell Baltimore, I don’t know if you know that or not. But they’re really behind this bringing bringing the ships and give

Nestor J. Aparicio  13:14

me the whole story about that. Because I mean, how does this happen? This through sail boats is not cheap and easy. And it doesn’t come without like people, a lot of people dedicating a lot of time to making it’s a weekend happen. It’s eight

Patrick Russell  13:25

months in the making minimum and it’s weekly meetings. And it’s, you know, it’s you’re talking about all around the Inner Harbor, there’s, there’s different stages, there’s, there’s, I mean, the amount of infrastructure it takes, then just gotta get the ships and then we had a bridge collapse. I mean, and that was a challenge, not to mention all the things that are happening in the world. So like our Navy,


Nestor J. Aparicio  13:43

or this was in jeopardy when the bridge collapse, right? You can’t probably ships in, but we weren’t, we weren’t sure what we’re gonna do. All right. We’ll take them to Annapolis or anything like that. Right. I mean, it’s, it’s on or off. Okay, that’s right.

Patrick Russell  13:55

So we were supposed to have Canadiens and and what other ships were supposed to come in? I’ll tell you how to get there. But because of what’s going on in the world, all the turmoil, they’re they’re diverted. So we’re only getting our our US Navy ships in, which is great. I mean, I’m happy to have them. I wish that we could have more. But because of the state of the country, and the world, the country, the world, the ships can’t come. So we’re going to have a lot of ships. We’re gonna have our flyovers. But it’s gonna be it’s unfortunate. We’re gonna miss the Canadian for

Nestor J. Aparicio  14:31

seeing the city come back to life after COVID and things that we used to enjoy. That got either cancelled put off, left alone found another time or place to move things around for for Fells and for Fells coming back. Thursday, Friday, Saturday afternoon, I on my timeline, it feels vibrant, right? And when I’ve gone down and you know, I used to walk over there for 20 years I lived downtown, I’d walk to your place Admiral’s cup onto the square. I always kid about rodeos because rotos The first place I got my first drink, you know? Some, but like, but that was, you know, that’s where we went like, on a Friday night let’s go down to Fells are still a place to be. I see all the elements that make Fells Point Fells Point right like beautiful hotel great food, all price points, you get pizza, you get a cheeseburger, you get crabs, crab cakes, whatever you want. Live music, right? I mean all of that oysters, fresh seafood. All it still offers

Patrick Russell  15:31


all waterfront on the cobblestone streets of historic Fells Point with beautiful buildings. It’s so obvious all that daytime business. I mean, look, this lets we have our challenges. Okay, well,

Nestor J. Aparicio  15:41

well, Fox 45 02 o’clock in the morning making sure you know, every every night one way or another. And I see that on my timeline, too. That’s an unfortunate part of whatever the backlash would be that people want to people want to gather and Fells Point. I think that’s the positive messages. If these kids are open containers, whatever they’re doing, they want to be in Fells Point, because Fells Points the place to be. That’s still, that’s still a part of this.

Patrick Russell  16:05

It is but that’s not I can tell you that the open container laws we want, we want them enforced. We don’t want what’s going on there. We want the people that come into the bars and restaurants. Of course you do. They’re not doing that. So So what used to be on Friday and Saturday night, Thursday, Friday, and Saturday night, is no longer now. It’s inundated with people who want to stand outside and not go into your businesses and New

Nestor J. Aparicio  16:28

Orleans style in that way that during COVID. The open gets like a lot of things change man and to your point, bring in the rails the government bringing in the rails of policing, crime, safety, public safety, all of that the perception of that is paramount for for all of us. There’s no question about that.


Patrick Russell  16:45

Yeah, I mean, New Orleans is different because they have I think you can walk around with Okay, retainer,

Nestor J. Aparicio  16:49

correct. Yeah, that’s not our law. Yeah. Right. So nor should it be for these reasons. We don’t

Patrick Russell  16:54

want it to be. We, it doesn’t help us. So I mean, my I would tell you that my dinner business and my lunch business, my happy hour business, my my weekend, Saturday and Sunday day business is fantastic. And that’s kind of where we’ve pivoted to how we make a living, versus having our late night, Friday and Saturday nights and Bill’s point. I started closing my bars down at 12 o’clock on Friday and Saturday night, which, which, I don’t want to do that. But, you know, that’s what I’ve been forced to do. I want that to change. And we’re working on it. I think if they get the liquor laws enforced, we’ll get people to come back down to Phil’s point go to the bars with a live music definitely playing instead of putting a disc jockey out on the square for sure. Which is a noise ordinance. So we’re working on it. So

Nestor J. Aparicio  17:39


individually for fleet we what are people gonna find when it comes down next weekend, sounds great food at your place, and hopefully great weather aside from everything else, but the the flyovers and the ships. And really the sort of the the patriotic part of all of this is, you know, we’re we’re, we’re Fort McHenry, man, we had a bench go down. I mean, this is a year for people to rally behind Baltimore. And this has a whole sea and air element that, that I love.

Patrick Russell  18:07

What one thing that we did, which I think is awesome is we’ve included all the bars and restaurants in it. So it’s not just what’s going on in the square, what’s going on in the square as a draw. So I have a stage. I’ve got bands all weekend and got phenomenal bands. I’ve got to give you a rundown. But on Thursday, we have a trio, Ricky Weiss, who is a local guy and Fells Point. Sure he plays all around town. He’s just a great dude. Everybody loves them, he’s going to kick things off for us on the square in the Broadway square in Fells Point. And then that night, we have sound down there a funky, really cool band, they play at the Waterfront Hotel, they play it.

Nestor J. Aparicio  18:49

So you’re moving some of the entertainment out into the Yeah,

Patrick Russell  18:51

it’s gonna be it’s an outdoor festival, full bar, full bar with beers and cocktails. We have food truck that’s gonna be out there doing fish tacos and crab cakes. We didn’t do a full festival food on the square, we want everybody to come down and go to the bars and restaurants. And what we wanted you to do is be part of this crab cake thing where everyone would go and taste different crab cakes and all the different restaurants. See which ones they like the best way, because everybody has crab cakes. Everybody has their own version of it. So we just want people to come to the neighborhood look at some tall ships, given


Nestor J. Aparicio  19:19

the names of the restaurants involved in this because I want to think of how many places I’ve had crab cakes. So I mean, I know Ron firm is involved in this. So

Patrick Russell  19:25

I haven’t even gotten a list yet. So Sam was going to be here to meet us today. And sure she’s been handling that. So I don’t know, but I know that Cooper’s is lunch are involved, of course. So I don’t know. I don’t know who’s else.

Nestor J. Aparicio  19:37

How many restaurants are there. Now down there. How many neighbors do you were, you know, the 3030 Okay,

Patrick Russell  19:43


I probably know 30 owners down there. And there’s probably 40 bars and restaurants. There’s a lot of great retail down there. I mean, we have you know, our community we it’s funny. A lot of people don’t understand that we We all like each other down there, the bars, the restaurants, the shops, the hotels, we all want each other to succeed. And we all push that for one another. I love people coming down and I every Christmas I’d say, come down, buy something from one of my retailers. And I’ll give you a free beer just to get people to Christmas shop instead of a moron online. Sure, you know, things like that. We

Nestor J. Aparicio  20:22

have seen your cheeks pop up my my wife anytime we’re down at your place, or anytime we’re walking the cobblestone and just strolling through whether it’s Ed Lauer playing somewhere or over the horse late at night, or my wife wants some candy, you’ll walk through and the boutiques always catch it. They catch her eye specifically on the square. She always wants to go in and try

Patrick Russell  20:42

to get my waist to shopper. Yes, she loves she loves to down there. My wife lives down there. And then what a lot of people don’t even know what’s there in that

Nestor J. Aparicio  20:49

way because they think of it as more of an entertainment district. I was gonna say entertainment, you can say bar. What do you have entertainment in your bar? Patrick Russell’s here where Cooper snores that’s all brought to bear friends at the Maryland lottery. We’re at the North location, which is closer to my house. When did this happen? Give me the background on Cooper’s North


Patrick Russell  21:07

opened Cooper shores in 2012. And then this right here was opened five years ago with the bar that we’re in, okay. It was that smaller version. I took this over and gutted it and turned it into the bar that it is so it was a small restaurant we first opened. This

Nestor J. Aparicio  21:21

always felt like an area that like as a guy who I’ve owned a radio station in Towson for 26 years. I never sort of came across the other side at three now I dated a girl that lived over here. One of my producers lived over here. At one point when Mike Messina was pitching for the Orioles in early 90s. He lived over here in like a little townhouse. And a Flanagan had a place up here at one point. But I there wasn’t a Meet me at a bar in Mays Chapel. In 1996. When you were opening, Cooper’s downtown, like and even my wife today, my wife broke her ankle. I thank you for everybody that’s given her love. But she was thinking that she can’t work. She’s on narcotics. She’s like, I was gonna get a pedicure today come out and maybe have some Gumbo and stumble up here. But let me get Chinese. This is a community that may be 30 years ago, you wouldn’t have known was here, right? It wasn’t here 30 years ago. But there were houses here right. But there weren’t. I mean, it was getting built. Go across but down the road to figure out where you get to shop. This whole shop is that it wasn’t 30 years ago. Why

Patrick Russell  22:16

did this exist? I think let’s see. I wasn’t even by YouTube.

Nestor J. Aparicio  22:22


I hear she has a podcast. Is that your dog? let’s promote her pot. What’s your podcast when? She’s not gonna come on? She

Patrick Russell  22:29

got to tell her chicken.

Nestor J. Aparicio  22:31

She’s gonna promote the pocket. She has to get the pod chicken. She has to stand here. Yeah,

Patrick Russell  22:35

she doesn’t have to talk about Fleet Week because he knows nothing about other than she’s on


Nestor J. Aparicio  22:39

hold on here. Let’s let’s get it all together. Let’s not cross the street. Keep your iced tea away from knockin only one person has ever knocked water all on my thing is John Arbol. You saw that workday? Coach, you gotta put that on there. You just put that on. There you go. And I’m gonna patch you up and you’re gonna hear that we’re gonna sound magical here. You gotta you gotta put the microphone. Oh, yes. She sounds better than your


nose for your podcasts. Yeah,

Kylie Russell  23:00

this is a lot better than what you have.

Nestor J. Aparicio  23:03


What kind of equipment are you using? I got this your daughter, man. Man. It’s hard to get Alright. There you go. All right. How old are you?

Kylie Russell  23:13

I’m 21. All right, you

Nestor J. Aparicio  23:14

get a lottery ticket yet?

Kylie Russell  23:15

I did not. All right. Well, there you go.


Nestor J. Aparicio  23:18

Tell us about your podcasts. What do you talk about? Because I got competition now. It’s like, you know, all these people like trying to all these food trucks coming out trying to be your food truck. Everybody’s got food truck. Nobody’s got a podcast, right? Which by this show.

Kylie Russell  23:29

It’s called you’re not alone. It’s that mental health podcast? Oh,

Patrick Russell  23:32

ecology school, and it’s gonna get a degree in that. All right. So

Nestor J. Aparicio  23:37


where are you going to school?

Kylie Russell  23:39

I got a Temple University in Philadelphia.

Nestor J. Aparicio  23:41

What should people know about mental health that they don’t like it? At the heart of it? Guys. He and I were tough old dudes. We don’t tell anybody. We’re hurting. We don’t tell anybody we lost love. Or we’re, you know, we’re depressed or whatever. And that’s a common theme. Uh, you know, Jim Irsay, who’s still our football team. He’s very into the mental health space. And he throws these events with rock and roll bands, and a whole bunch of memorabilia and he does them every year all over the country. And you know, NFL owners are getting involved in mental health. It’s, it’s not uncool. And certainly you’re trying to make it cooler to say, hey, I need help. Right?

Kylie Russell  24:16

Yeah, exactly. I think that’s the whole point of my podcast, especially reaching out to people that are thinking they’re alone and all of it and honestly, I think reaching out to men in general, too, because I think that there’s a stigma behind men’s mental health a lot larger than women’s and trying to just make them feel like they’re not alone haven’t


Nestor J. Aparicio  24:31

talk to each other. Yeah, you know, dudes, I mean, he’ll text me once in a while. I mean, it’s hard. It’s hard to be to be good dudes together. I found this out. A couple of weeks ago, I got offered curio wellness. One of our great sponsors. Wendy offered me and they’re right around a corner here when he offered me a couple of box seats for the Orioles Yankees game. Well, first off, it’s 98 degrees. Let’s start with all the obstructions. 98 degrees. I got to work Ah, that’s downtown. I don’t go there anymore. Ah Uh, you know, the games on TV like, you go through all of that. And I’m thinking, all I really want to do is hang out with my dudes, you know what I mean? Like, yeah, they’re hotsy, Toxie seats, whatever. But if I said, Hey, just want to go to Cooper’s and get a beer, that wouldn’t be sexy enough for them or somebody say wildlife here, let’s meet there. Let’s see, it’s hard to get through together. That’s what golf South Africa. I’ve literally and I don’t call, you know, so it’s hard for me. But but this is a this is a men’s me and my audience, being a lot of older dudes mean, this is something that’s I’ve lost friends and I certainly have had friends and my wife and I were talking this morning about several of our friends who’ve lost their children to this. It’s just something that’s impacted you to get you involved. Yeah, absolutely.

Kylie Russell  25:39

I’ve dealt with my own struggles. And I think that that’s basically what I do on the podcast is talk about my own struggles and things that I’ve been through so that I can try and reach people that may be going through the same thing and make them realize that they’re not alone

Nestor J. Aparicio  25:50

in the process. Where do you find your inspiration for help?

Kylie Russell  25:54


Oh, goodness, honestly. And myself, to be honest, I was pretty young, when I went through some issues with some past relationships. And I decided that I wanted to get some help for that. And I started seeing a therapist, and it just helped a lot. I’ve been in therapy.

Nestor J. Aparicio  26:10

There’s a thing about being a parent. And if you say, Oh, my, my kids in therapy, like forever, or, you know, I’m seeing a shrink, right? We they that’s the 80s way, you know, what’s wrong with you? Like, literally, we’ve grown up with that, like, and that’s been instilled culturally through mail through in all of that way. And reinforced I think in music, even in a lot of different ways. To you’re strong enough to take care of yourself. Sometimes you’re not right. Yeah, absolutely.

Kylie Russell  26:38

Exactly. Sometimes you’re not, and it’s totally fine to ask for help is what I’ve learned. And I think that I tried to push that onto people and just realize that make them realize that it’s totally okay to like, ask someone for help. And so that’s kind of you

Nestor J. Aparicio  26:50

for lunch today. And like I said, You ditched her off on lunch? She wasn’t going to do


Kylie Russell  26:56

Yeah, I was supposed to be done. And fellas today you’re working? Yeah.

Nestor J. Aparicio  26:59

Get your work uniform. Yeah, I do. I didn’t get a shirt. Your sponsor the show. We gotta go get a shirt here. Yeah,

Patrick Russell  27:05

one thing I want to add to this is interesting that you said is that? Yeah, guys our age. We have trouble with, you know, getting help. And looking for it. Ask us a phone number now for it. Right? Yeah, but even even so like, like, you still like, you don’t want to admit you need it. One of the things that when she started going to therapy as a young kid, you know, I was kind of like, What the hell is going on? We live in a nice home, we go to nice schools, we have you know, everything that’s we everything’s nice for us. Okay,

Nestor J. Aparicio  27:32


as a parent, it’s hard to coach that up to well, you’re not prepared for it. You can’t. So

Patrick Russell  27:36

what ended up I think breaking through for me was actually sitting in with her therapist. And, and, and listening to her talk to the therapist, and the therapist actually helping me learn more about her. And at that point,

Nestor J. Aparicio  27:51

she’s telling the therapist though she’ll never tell you right, right period. That’s fine. That’s, that’s why get a therapist,

Patrick Russell  27:56

for me to the ex deputy then sit down and listen to her, and really, really changed our relationship. And we’ve always had a great relationship, but


Nestor J. Aparicio  28:03

I felt like I screwed it up today. bustin you guys up at lunch here.

Kylie Russell  28:06

I just popped in. I thought he was there.

Patrick Russell  28:11

All weekend with me. Yeah, keep going. You’re talking about her. So yeah. So anyway, um, I think that that what’s important about your podcasts about what you’re doing is that people like me, you can also be reached and I never was the kind of person my father was a psychologist. And I always felt like he was every time I walked the door. He’s freaking out when I’m judging. And that is not how he was. He was a wonderful human being. And he wanted

Nestor J. Aparicio  28:33


to help but you have he never I never needed in order to get help. You have to, you have to say this is my issue or challenge. And if you you say I have a challenge or an issue, it shows some sort of, I’m not smart enough. I’m weak enough. I need help. I’m helpless.

Patrick Russell  28:46

We never would admit we need help. Yeah.

Nestor J. Aparicio  28:50

You can’t do this without help dude. He’s

Patrick Russell  28:52

about like mental health. And I would never admit that. So now that I’m older, I realize okay, it’s important that you open up lines of communication that you wouldn’t have done I would have never have if I don’t I don’t know what have happened with her if she didn’t go through what she did. Look


Nestor J. Aparicio  29:08

at her now. She’s doing podcasts. Nobody knows where to find it. Give me the whole deal. Oh,

Kylie Russell  29:12

you can find it on Spotify and Apple podcasts. It’s called Waianae you’re not alone by Kylie Russell. Yeah, so I have about six seven episodes up right now actually have to do a new one soon. So I think it’d be talking about think bullying in high school and deal dealing with like Mean Girls and all that stuff. So that’s the next one that I think I’m gonna talk about how many of you do how often so I was on top of it a little bit more back in college all these

Nestor J. Aparicio  29:36

podcasts? What do you do for a while? Yeah, I wish I had that. Sure if you’re gone but whatever I want, you know,

Kylie Russell  29:42


it’s just for fun so I don’t really make money off and I just do it to do it. So

Nestor J. Aparicio  29:47

would you do well enough maybe you can make money yeah, please don’t make any more I got enough competition. No, these podcasters Well, thanks for stopping by. Patrick Russell, USA another segment because I need to take a break at some point here. Yeah, well, we’ll talk some more about fleet we can More about the salesman. We’re 30 minutes into this work Cooper’s north. I’ve already given you a PacMan scratch. We had a 20 hour winter. It’s a table here. You know, I come in sort of when it’s slow and nice and quiet here because this place gets booming on weekends. We got music up here. I want to talk about the music and entertainment. And we’re gonna be a Fleet Week. We’re gonna be doing this show next Friday. It’s not gonna be this calm next Friday, right? Friday afternoon, we’re gonna be doing crab cakes. You’re gonna get Furman over to your place to sit down. He’s my original OG. Max is on Broadway. He gets mad when I say that. We’re Taphouse like dude, man, I said every candles with the Rembrandt’s one night singing songs. Pac Man scratch was brought to you by the Maryland lottery a big thing with Omen, riches and Grand Slams with the Orioles. So make sure you’re supporting them and supporting our friends at Liberty pure solutions and Jiffy Lube. Multi care Patrick Russell supporting us, Cooper slotsup Fleet Week. We’re in the middle of it. We’re promoting mental health. And he mentioned gumbo yet. Oh, yeah. You walk in and it’s like a script. I’m sitting here with this vat of gumbo that she called it a cop How the hell was that? The cop? This thing was this big. How could that be the cop?

Patrick Russell  31:06

That’s that’s, you know, what’s the payload itself? The bolts is?

Nestor J. Aparicio  31:09

She talked


Patrick Russell  31:10

me out of the bowl. You don’t need a bowl. Bowl goes home with you. All right,

Nestor J. Aparicio  31:14

good enough. We’ll be back for more. We’re Cooper’s. We’re gonna talk some more about fleet. We can talk more about Cooper and talk more about Phil’s point more about mace chapel right after this. Stay with us.

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