Let Luke Jones take you to Ravens summer training camp

Luke Jones takes Nestor to an early camp prep and attacks the Ravens summer offensive line issues in Owings Mills. The Maryland Crab Cake Tour includes a cameo from Leonard Raskin as our football and baseball passions converge in Baltimore in a historic way this fall with championships and parades at stake.

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Nestor J. Aparicio, Leonard Raskin, Luke Jones

Nestor J. Aparicio  00:00

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Welcome home we are W NSG, Towson Baltimore. Baltimore positive I would love to show you my family’s crabcake I’d love to show you the french fries. I’d love to show you the cucumber salad. The only thing I got to show you is about 10 ounces of what’s left in my Coors Light here were families. I’m having a Friday beer. It is getaway day for Luke Jones. Our friends at the Maryland lottery brought us down here with the Gold Rush sevens doublers and we’re gonna get some shrimp salad for the road. Our friends at Liberty pure solutions making our water crystal clear and Jiffy Lube multi care putting us out on the road. It’s our last crabcake tour stop for the month. I will not be your two weeks from now doing some other things that weekend of the Padres event Luke is about to head on vacation. And as we sit here on the eve of Yankees Orioles weekend people can listen to this next week. There’s gonna be an all star game gun show on Monday night in Arlington Five Oriole all stars on Tuesday, maybe more, but it’s on the weekends over and your eat Max pizza hanging out at Wildwood. You do this trip a lot. Usually it’s Fourth of July, you and your family your sister had a baby move that a little later. And I know when you plan this you thought well at least I’ll get a couple of days when I get back. Yeah, before like we go into and the Orioles open in Arlington next weekend. So they don’t even have to stay. They get the hang out. A football dude.

Luke Jones  01:21

It’s here. It’s it’s here. Yeah, this weekend. Let’s go rookies report this weekend. quarterbacks and what rehabbing players injured last year report. I think it’s Monday or Tuesday. And then the 20th veterans report. Why

Nestor J. Aparicio  01:37

surely they because they had the first game. Yeah, that’s exactly what it is. And this used to be the time when like because they said five preseason games would. And that’s the thing,

Luke Jones  01:46

I think. And obviously we remember being in Canton for the Hall of Fame Game that was famously Lamar Jackson’s first NFL game press. I’ll be a preseason, but that used to it used to be the start of training camp was based off of when your first preseason game was and now and I never saw this officially, like in any bylaws or anything like that. But it’s based off of now when you start the season so that the chiefs in the ravens and obviously the Hall of Fame Game participants, they’ll report a few days before the rest of the league, but we’re here I thought it would be you know, July 24, something like that. 25th But July 21, that’s

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Nestor J. Aparicio  02:23

before my mother’s birthday. It’s before my anniversary. Well, you know what it is?

Luke Jones  02:27

It kind of reminds you of old school, go back to the late 90s where they would I remember famously, ravens Raiders at Memorial Stadium was September 1 1996. They started like July 10. In training camp. I went back and found the old Baltimore Sun article talking about the browns. You know the old Brad’s when that Martin mole picture was taken. Yeah, Martin mole picture was taken. The first practice at Memorial Stadium in whatever July whatever. Yeah, it was on a Friday night. Hennessy and Bruce Stover went out there and there’s Martin mall walking around. That was the first ever Raven practice. Yeah, John didn’t mean machine. But in recent years, we’ve kind of come to expect like your July 25 26th 27th Depending on when the season starts, but it’s a little bit earlier and it’s here. I mean, it really is here and

Nestor J. Aparicio  03:16

you got real press notes, man. Oh yeah, Chad doesn’t give these to me anymore. I remember this look at that in color and everything you got you’re looking at all these 99 names here.

Luke Jones  03:27

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91

Nestor J. Aparicio  03:28

What the 90 man roster finance somebody’s guys names. Yeah. No, I

Luke Jones  03:32

do not have them all memorized. There was a time in my life where I would memorize the entire 90 man roster now. I work smarter. No, no hopes of one Bobby Rainey. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. So but it’s here. I think with the Orioles being as good as they aren’t we saw this last year too. I don’t think there’s quite as much buzz as there normally is. Because there is such a long way and you know that Lamar is not going to play and the starters aren’t going to play in the preseason whatsoever. We’ve seen that become standard operating procedure over the last couple of years, I guess since JK Dobbins tore up his knee. But it’s time and I think we’re going to be taught talking a lot about the offensive line. As we talked about throughout the offseason, we’re going to be talking about the pass rush we’re going to be talking about maybe a third safety. Jamal Adams just signed with the Titan so he’s off to the market after the Ravens had visited with him in May and I was never sure that was a great fit anyway, so I don’t I don’t really have any late

Nestor J. Aparicio  04:29

visits they do and you never know when there’s going to be a Kyle van Noy no

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Luke Jones  04:33

doubt what I mean even clowny we and when they even have more like he’s old. He’s brittle. That’s kind of how we looked at it. These guys get signed. It’s probably like you’re saying with the relief pitching with euros, they’re gonna they’re gonna get somebody you’re gonna be like, That guy, you know, and he might pay some dividends because you just said it. I mean, there’s always the there’s always a mentality of well, there’s a reason why this guy is still available. He must not be that good anymore. And then we find out and we say saw this at a year ago at this time they, they were close to signing Arthur merlet, who was like on the eve of reporting to training camp. It was a good sock horn and to the point where they resigned them this offseason, they brought in Ronald Darby they brought in Jadeveon. Clowney and Kyle van Noy was brought in what September 2018 impactful players were on a season where they hosted a championship Exactly. Now, I don’t know if you’re going to do that well, bringing in late veteran types every year. But I fully expect at some point, you know, maybe not when we’re reconvening to talk about the first two days of training camp in two weeks or week and a half, but they’re gonna bring in a couple guys, I think we’re gonna see a safety at some point, there are enough safeties on the market. And I think the big wildcard is the offensive line. How confident are you in the young guys as they’re putting on the pads in late July and early August, and you’re trying to kind of figure out what your best starting five combination is going to be? You know, we know that Tyler Lindenbaum is going to be the center. We know that if he’s healthy, and that’s a colossal if Ronnie Stanley is going to be the left tackle. Beyond that, I mean, we don’t really know, you know, where does Patrick Macquarie potentially fit in there? I think ideally, he remains your swing guy, but he might have to start it right tackle because they might say rose and garden might need another three, four weeks of seasoning before he’s ready to take over and week five,

Nestor J. Aparicio  06:20

you know, what do you expect to see from a guy like that, because over the course of time, we’ve seen these third and fourth round guys, whether it’s Andrews, overland or brown guys that were drafted a little second day thought of is that way, second round, guys, whether it’s the Arthur Smith’s, we there’s been a whole bunch of different. I mean, I could go back two years, they didn’t have four first round picks, and say we’re expecting something from a second round guy. I’m gonna say they’ve had. So So luck, I go back to the Ron Jenkins with second round guys, right. But what you expect from him, it feels like they expect more from this guy, because of the position. They’ve sort of built it up a little bit. It’s really a position to need where they lead Moses go. They need him to play they they haven’t level of expectation for sort of a late second round, pick them up and say, you know, 30 years into this. We haven’t talked about late second round picks is that guy’s got to be on the field right away. Feels like this guys have has a little bit more of that pressure built. Yeah, I

Luke Jones  07:25

think that’s fair. And that’s where I’m still not ready to just sign off on that. Right. And, and look, I don’t dislike him as a prospect. I don’t dislike him as a guy that starting, you know, even the second half of the season, let’s say and Orlando Brown was a great example of that he was a third round pick. He didn’t start week one. But he started fairly early in his rookie season, I think it was week six, week seven. And by the end of the year, he was firmly established it right tackle. So that’s but that’s the exception, right? I think we always, were always quick to point out the exceptions. And I think with the draft, you tend to as much as you love your evaluation process. And as much as the Ravens have drafted as well as if not better than just about any team out there for their entire existence. That doesn’t mean you’re going to be perfect, you’re not going to bat 1000. And even some of these guys we talked about, generally speaking, when you’re getting into second, third, and certainly later than that, those aren’t guys that you’re expecting to play right away.

Nestor J. Aparicio  08:21

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Not always a great example of a guy, I mean, go back through their twos over the last five to 10 years, and say, how impactful have they been? How quickly were they impactful if they were impactful at all? In that case, and just the mean of the League of you know, those 30 guys that are the next 30 Guys, how quickly historically any of them can get to the field and be a player, let alone a plus player or a Pro Bowl player at the age of 22 or 23. There’s there’s not a lot of precedent for that. That’s why I’m like you get excited about the second round pick. I am from Missouri when it comes to that historic well and and you can be excited about it. But realistic range of expectations. That’s where I stand at the chiefs on opening. That’s where I said Patrick McHenry might need to start the first month of the season. And you know, you see rose and garden has all of training camp and has the month of September and maybe he’s ready. And look, he might be ready. My wife took one look at him and said he looks like he’s 12. I mean, he’s got good feet.

Luke Jones  09:23

I think from an athleticism standpoint, he does fit the mold of where they’re trying to go. I think don’t get me wrong. They’re not trying to get small on the offensive line. But I think they are looking for a little more athleticism, a little more zone blocking then, so much of the power stuff they ran under Roman, I think we saw that transition start this past year, and I think it’s going to continue and that’s part of away from Zeitler. And that’s the thing. They’re old guys that had injury concerns. I mean, look, I still wonder if moving on from both of them will ultimately be a wise decision. I still have some skepticism about that. And that’s and you know what? I’m guessing privately Hey, Eric Decosta and John Harbaugh would still say, we’re gonna have to see leap of faith but there’s also faith but this also goes back to the old Ozzie Newsome mantra. It’s better to get rid of a guy a year early than a year too late. And I think that’s what they’re, well, they’ve also had a button on right now, situations where,

Nestor J. Aparicio  10:17

wherever Ben Cleveland is right now, they’ve had the Ryan Jensen’s, the rookie WAG, they’ve had guys find themselves in that second, third, fourth year, where they make a market improvement. In addition to every Kyle Hamilton to just come out of the box looking like, you know, they got it, why men are different in that way. Yeah. And that’s that,

Luke Jones  10:40

again, is where I take a little bit of pause with Rosengarten just because it’s how quickly can he develop? I mean, look, Joe Dallas Sanders, their offensive line coach, they’ve developed some late round guys into being Matt scuro, a longtime friend who came out and did many live shows with us over the years. Oh, yeah, he was an undrafted guy. You know, he was on the practice squad and made himself look good. Macquarie. Yeah. I mean, Macquarie undrafted, I mean, a guy who, by the way, is in a contract here. And if he ends up having to play because of injury, or because some of these, you know, he might parlay that into having some interest on the market where the Ravens might have to make an interesting decision on him because he’s been so valuable. As a guy who can play left tackle, right tackle left guard right guard Center, and

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Nestor J. Aparicio  11:18

I’m gonna call him from now on to honor you. He’s gonna be the bullpen of offensive linemen. You know, he’s literally he’s gonna be the bullpen.

Luke Jones  11:25

I mean, he’s he’s been so valuable. I mean, what I guess it was late in 2120, or 21, I guess? 21 Yeah, he signed he was gonna be a restricted free agent. They signed him to what a three year 15 million ish kind of deal. You know, 5 million a year you’d say at face value. Well, that’s kind of it’s kind of rich for for reserve, but kind of games he started. Look how many times he’s had to spell Ronnie Stanley or Morgan Moses or he played SAT. He’s played senator for this team. I mean, it’s, you know, he’s a valuable player. So, point is going back to the youth, though. I mean, how quickly can Joe Dallas Sanders bring some of these guys up to speed? I mean, I think you know, we’ve talked about rose and garden. Let’s shift and talk about Andrew Vorhees who they drafted in the seventh round. Last year, he was the kid who of course, he tore his ACL at the Combine was probably going to be a third or fourth round pick from some team but tears his ACL you draft him, you say, hey, it’s going to be a redshirt year. He’s going to be in the building. He’s going to rehab he’s going to learn, but he doesn’t get on the field until this past spring, you know, this spring. But I think they’re they’re serious expectations that I think that they’re optimistic he’s going to be there left guard. Now, he played a lot in college, you know, he’s a multi year starter, USC, older guy as well. And I think that’s relevant in both projecting his ceiling, but also maybe talking about in terms of how quickly he can get on the field, which they need. Yeah, I mean, at some point in time, these guys got the play. You know, you can talk about your offensive line. And I love this young guy, and this young guy can play here. That sounds great. And March and April, but come September. It’s real. So there’s some unknown there. But three, you mentioned Ben Cleveland. I mean, it’s go time, man, this is your chance. you’ve kind of been talked about at this point in the offseason, three straight years. And there’s an opportunity there is absolute, and he just has it. So that’s where you look at it. And look when he’s filled in. I mean, he filled in for Kevin, Sylar, I think he made three starts for Ziglar over the last two years, go back and look at those games. He played well, but he’s not he has not been a good practice player. And he’s been a guy who’s gotten nicked up in practice. John Harbaugh has talked about this for years, specifically with the offensive line time on task, getting those reps. I mean, it’s such a rep position, more so than maybe any other position on the football field, as just reps and reps and reps for offensive lineman, and, and he missed a lot of that his first couple years now, to his credit, he stayed much healthier last year. And I think he made some improvement. But I alluded to this in some of my 12 ravens thoughts back in the spring at Baltimore, positive.com. And I’ll say it, I’m not convinced that he’s going to be the starting right guard, he’s got to earn it. I mean, he really does. And I just get the sense that he’s not a guy that they love as far as how he looks in practice. And I’m not saying that’s everything, but at the same time, when you have so many new pieces on that offensive line and so many moving parts. It’s like, Dude, it’s time for them who to trust, right? salutely Absolutely. So that’s where these young guys it is. So, so much of an unknown. And that’s where I’ll still say, and I don’t know, off the top of my head. I don’t know who that name is right now. In fact, it might be someone that is playing on an expiring contract somewhere and they drafted an O lineman that they’re ready to hand the reins to and save $4 million in the process on the cap or whatever it is that it might be that hey, come August 23. If you’re kind of uneasy about your right tackle position or one of your guard spots and someone goes to heaven forbid someone goes down with a knee injury and they’re out of the out of the conversation. I wouldn’t be shocked to see Eric d’acosta a trade that you know you swap fourth round picks and add a sixth and you bring in someone’s you know A high floor, John Simpson kind of guy that, you know, that can start for you for a year and play okay for you. So, I mean, that’s the big spot. And I can just tell you from experience of having done this now, as long as I’ve, as I’ve done it, it really isn’t until about the second or third week of August, where this

Nestor J. Aparicio  15:20

is what I was going to ask you to hone in on. You have all this ramp up time I bring letter Raskin a couple of minutes. But last thing for you and me before I let you go to the ballpark and get Leonard over and go to the beach. For you with football questions. He’s Delaware beach guy, your jersey beach guy. This the cadence of these five or six weeks, the early start getting ready to play on the Thursday night in the biggest game of the biggest game on the road. Like all that stuff. The scheduling of this, the fact that the Eagles would come down here and fight with them or the Rams or come in and fight with them. The Jaguars are coming like they’re gonna go to Green Bay, they’re doing great. Phil ever because I was I’ve now you said it. I remember that. Yeah, give me the next six weeks for the Ravens in regard to cadence, and these dumb preseason games, that they have found a way to take crap and devalue it even more like they’ve made it even less interesting. From a perspective of us watching it thinking we’re gonna see something thinking Lamar is gonna be in shoulder pet like any of that right?

Luke Jones  16:23

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Or if you want to see if you even want to see Lamar and shoulder pads and

Nestor J. Aparicio  16:29

understand what changed the watch. And all the canes of this has changed in this Green Bay thing and this shared gene thing, they probably get a whole lot more done doing that than they do anything regarding the tickets they sell. Yeah,

Luke Jones  16:43

I think first of all, what I’ve noticed the last couple years and this has been baked in with with the more recent CBAS they definitely ramp up a little bit more, you know, you don’t see as much hitting certainly don’t say the first few days. I mean, they even have a ramp up period. And it’s not until what day four or five that they can even put on the pads and start hitting even when they do I couldn’t tell you Nestor other than maybe third team rookie guys during practice can tell you the last time I saw them go live to the ground in practice. I mean, you just do not see that anymore. Whether that’s good or not, you know, whether that affects early season tackling form or not. that’s up for debate, but it’s it’s just how they do it is right. Yeah, just like we talked about that with the pitching in Major League Baseball. It’s

Nestor J. Aparicio  17:25

how they manage the risk of their assets. Right. But But I think

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Luke Jones  17:29

obviously, they’re starting earlier. You know, you have three preseason games they played what Philadelphia what Atlanta, there’s this is that the second one? I’m trying to think off the top of my head. I’m going through you could the fact that I don’t have the preseason duty schedule memorized shows you what just like

Nestor J. Aparicio  17:46

the movie meatballs, it just doesn’t matter. It just doesn’t matter. Yeah. So yeah,

Luke Jones  17:52

those two games, you know, those first two games, there is some value, especially with the offensive line and the young guys. They are going Philadelphia on the ninth that’s it all right, Anna then Right. Yeah. And then Atlanta noon star because the Orioles played the Red Sox that night and the Packers is August 24. Yeah. So yeah. So in Green Bay, then they will fly out to Green Bay a couple days early. And they’re going to think it’s at least one if not two days a joint practices. And

Nestor J. Aparicio  18:18

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I know we’re gonna have fans that fly to Green Bay for the preseason game. I know that Yeah, I know that’s going to happen. Well, I mean,

Luke Jones  18:24

hey, if you want to see Lambeau Field, but if you want to see any of the actual players, then yeah, that’s not the one that cheap. Yeah, absolutely. But but you know, those joint practices in recent years, those have become the preseason games for the veterans. I mean, it’s a controlled environment. They can manage the reps. They’re not tackling to the ground, necessarily. I mean, they’ll Fudd you know, they’ll hit you know, they’ll they’ll play to wrapping a guy up, and then John Harbaugh can’t win that. But yeah, well, he can’t. He can’t. But at the same time, they I think you found in recent years, that’s where the veterans can get in some meaningful work. And then it’s not the scenario of what happened with the Ravens with the commander’s a couple years ago when JK Dobbins tears up his knee, right. I mean, you’re not dealing with that, hopefully. So, you know, it’s, they’ve got a lot of time, I think, you know, it’s certainly an interesting, it’s an interesting season. I mean, I wrote it at Baltimore positive.com The other day, I mean, there is no doubt at this point that it’s super bowl or bust for this team. So how do you handle that I have high expectations for this football team, as I always do if Lamar Jackson’s healthy, but, you know, at some point you got to break through, and we’ve been talking about this for year after year after year. And, you know, I think there is a mental challenge to that. Not that I think that they’re going to falter because of it. But I think there’s a challenge to the grind of the memory of Kansas City. I mean, these guys talked about it in OTAs a ton that Lamar said he was just getting over it at that point, because he was back with his guys. It’s a flower said he still wasn’t over it. You know, Kyle Hamilton made the point of you know, we’re gonna have a chance to make a mess. Since you know we’ve got to do that.

Nestor J. Aparicio  20:01

John Harbaugh sat with me in Indianapolis 12 years ago after conduct and said I’ll never get out but think about

Luke Jones  20:07

this though. We’re only in mid July we have August September, October, November December mid January is when the playoffs start. The AFC Championship Game is the very end of January. It’s a long time even from now to one you got to winter watching

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Nestor J. Aparicio  20:25

it rain it Lexington mark and waiting for the Yankees to call I can’t think about preseason football run we’re not but you know

Luke Jones  20:32

the ravens are because again, it’s

Nestor J. Aparicio  20:33

the purple shirt. Purple Friday letter Rask Friday behalf of the Maryland lottery here friends we have the gold rush to seven so I did have a $2 winner right over your shoulder there. I’ve given these away Leonard you get one one for you. One for you. One for you. Luke Jones here as well absolutely get a freebie you get a ticket. I want to put you first of all I didn’t wasn’t sure you guys had met and I realized I was part. More than that. Like I figured you love the football thing, man. You got it. Do you have any questions for Lucas? Oh, he’s

Luke Jones  21:05

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gonna put me on the spot. Oh, really? Do

Nestor J. Aparicio  21:07

you got anything? Are you good?

Leonard Raskin  21:08

Who’s who’s starting on the right side of the office? Talking? I’m sure you’ve been talking about it.

Luke Jones  21:13

I think John Hall and Eric d’acosta. I mean, it’s why we play the train. We’ve talked about it. I mean, there are compelling candidates. But yeah, they’re unproven. That’s right. They’re just, I mean, even Ben Cleveland. It’s like what we’re basing this off of filling in for Kevin Zeitler I think three games over the last two years, you know, and he played well, but he also has never sees the starting job in practice. I think there’s a reason for that. King back there. Yeah. So is he

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Leonard Raskin  21:39

going to be able to do the Lamar fake? You

Nestor J. Aparicio  21:41

have no idea that I’ve been flirting with Luke the last three weeks on eBay trying to buy a number of Derrick Henry Oilers era can be Oilers jersey. I get one right now for 40 bucks with little defect in it. I don’t know. But I opted for and I sent that Escalade Sosa text on this day, because you know of my affinity for Earl Campbell. And I’ve been waiting to get an Earl Campbell jersey. And I found this 1990s Sweater long sleeve. Campbell throwback authentic Mitchell and Ness kind of like thing with the stitched on 34 and a Campbell on the back and the blue one has an Euler Derek on each shoulder. So I spent 42 bucks on that instead of spending 40 bucks on the you know, the Derrick Henry thing I mean, that to me, and Leonard, you know that I’m a I’m a Derrick Henry guy, and you and I go nose to nose because for years I said at the training that they want to win the Super Bowl they go get Derek camera and he’s like, you only spend that much money on it right? So that’s part of our just have to remember to actually have to do it. Like, this is it I’m not gonna praise Eric Decosta for too much on a personal level, certainly not on an integrity level. But he got my guy you know what I mean? This is my God. So I like that.

Leonard Raskin  22:55

Hey, look, as you said we’ve got to wait all the way through January for this to matter. Nothing matters until the playoffs it matters until they don’t do 21 Straight passing plays in the championship game when they’re running team with Derrick Henry in the background, the backfield

Luke Jones  23:11

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but it’s what I said to you look, I think Derrick Henry is going to be very successful and have a good statistical season I’ve never disputed that. But he can run for 1500 yards and lead the NFL in rushing and all that but if it doesn’t move the needle in January you

Nestor J. Aparicio  23:26

know what you matter you can even win the MVP or not you can win it twice. Yep. And when you don’t win playoff games

Luke Jones  23:33

your legacy is still incomplete. Absolutely I mean look I had to since we brought up the ball oh here we go now Did anyone see the ESPY awards? And nobody? Yes. Okay. So

Leonard Raskin  23:48

let’s start with if you can from last year was better than that was silly. It was waiting. I don’t know what they did. past that. He said he saw it and that was layoffs and ran for like 15 years ESPN played the Alabama Hail Mary should have been a play player that clearly but my question is I’m gonna back up even further. Yeah, aren’t the SP supposed to be on the day after the all star game? I didn’t even know they weren’t there. I didn’t know they were on so that when there’s no sports on TV, that was the point there’s no there’s no baseball basketball football nothing the day after the all star game is the SP Yeah, suddenly it was on last night. No idea

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Nestor J. Aparicio  24:25

I’m I’m gonna say something really, really disrespectful. Something may shock Leonard. Maybe not because you know me a little bit. I cannot think of the last time I watched ESPN. And I did watch the Sunday Night Baseball team. It was awful. The broadcast I missed Oh, I don’t know there’s nothing of this ball tonight for the hour leading into St. Steele coming back to ESPN we bring me but like I haven’t watched ESPN as an entity. You know maybe an NBA game it’s on or something like you see it or whatever. But like sitting there and taking ESPN seriously. Yeah, it’s still my choice on Sunday. Now they throw me out. I sit around every weekend like everybody else and watch the pregame shows. It’s the place I go waiting for Suzy Kolber waiting for Chris Berman waiting for time. And I get Rex Ryan being a loudmouth. I get tedy. Bruschi not being very good. I get Hasselbeck that was good. And they get rid of him and I don’t I don’t get the ESPN thing you know, for me, like, an over a

Leonard Raskin  25:27

different audience. Oh,

Luke Jones  25:28

the talking head culture that they have totally, totally changed. Yeah, I watch ESPN plenty for games. Good. Games. But yeah. Morning line. I

Nestor J. Aparicio  25:40

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wouldn’t know when the ESPYs is because I haven’t seen sure but,

Leonard Raskin  25:43

but it’s always it was always after all star. Yeah, it was strange. And somehow it was on before the during games. There were games on last night I was speaking to President was on there were games on and suddenly I’m I’m flipping through my Facebook feed saying okay, what are the what are the talking pundits of the world saying about Biden while he’s talking and suddenly I see Lamar Jackson

Nestor J. Aparicio  26:11

story, just such a bad choice. And I’m gonna I’m gonna leave you with this because Luke’s gonna be going out Luke’s the end that a while what he’s out here for a week, about 20 years ago, that 20 years ago, and maybe maybe back 20 years ago, one of my interns before you around, came and said, Hey, um, do we want to cover the ESPYs they’re mostly young people. I’m like, kid, if you get a credenza, he said, I’m gonna be in wherever was New York, wherever. He said, Can I cover it for wn S T. And I was just trying to be a good guy as like the boss. And I’m like, well, the I’m a long way from this with the Whistler and Chad steel at this point. But unlike we’re wn St. Of course, don’t give us a credential and try. I mean, right. So the kid got a credential. And he came back and the only thing he had was a picture of him and Keri Russell, the actress who I’ve had a crush on since she was 14, I was just gonna say so the trip was worth it.

Leonard Raskin  27:07

Saying we have a chance I have

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Nestor J. Aparicio  27:09

never wanted to go to the ESPYs or thought about going to the ESPYs until the kid that intern came back with a picture and that’s your reason I would go to the ESPYs

Leonard Raskin  27:18

so my wife is a today’s show girl, she loves that today, my wife and so every day you know when I get up and I’m if I’m working at home, it’s on if I’m leaving for the office, it’s on the what I saw was the big talk of the ESPYs was Serena Williams were like 25 outfits in four hours. Oh, did

Nestor J. Aparicio  27:35

she really? Well.

Leonard Raskin  27:38

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I did see that. That was the big thing was that she changed outfits so many times. Well, I’m thinking that’s the SPS Okay. Lamar

Nestor J. Aparicio  27:44

looked fresh and I know this because the Ravens social media told me that letter rasters here Raskind global Luke Jones always looks fresh and his freshly minted Baltimore positive gear. Were fresh here with the Gold Rush sevens. doublers were failings and the new Lexington mark yet better yet?

Leonard Raskin  27:58

I have not. This is my first. Mark. It feels like you’re a million.

Nestor J. Aparicio  28:02

Beautiful. This crab cakes out. We had Pete caldera here singing show tunes. Doing Yankees. Luke is on vacation. He’ll be in Wildwood. He’ll be 10 pounds fatter on a pizza by the time he gets back next week. At least I hope you are. Have a good time. Thank you. I would tell you don’t watch wrestling. Don’t watch baseball. Don’t worry about the rain.

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Luke Jones  28:22

There won’t be most. There won’t be baseball next week other than the all star game, right? So run dirt, run dirt, put

Nestor J. Aparicio  28:28

some SPF 50 on and get in there and have a good time with your nieces and your sister, Luke Jones. He covers all of it for us. He’s in Baltimore Luke. Winter raskins gonna hang around. I think Jamie’s gonna come out. We’re gonna talk about crabs and crab cakes. Leonard I don’t know what Leonard’s got on his mind about the all star break or whatever. But we are gonna have some crab cakes because this is the Maryland crab cake tour back for more Lexington market if at least all of it brought to you by the Maryland lottery friends if you do multi care and liberty, pure solutions keeping it fresh. Stay with us. It’s all star game week.