LIVVing his best life, former Ravens wide receiver Mark Clayton shares story of his patented athletic headphone

Former Baltimore Ravens wide receiver Mark Clayton has stayed in touch with WNST ever since the day he was drafted 20 years ago and was a frequent guest on our Monday Night Live shows. Now an entrepreneur, the former first-round draft pick from Oklahoma tells Nestor his unlikely journey into the world of premium sound, full body athletic movement and finding a headset that goes where you wanna go when you are trying to break a sweat.

Nestor Aparicio interviews Mark Clayton, a former Ravens wide receiver, about his new LIVV Audio headphones. Clayton discusses the challenges of using traditional headphones during workouts and rehab, leading him to create a secure, over-ear headphone with patented designs for active lifestyles. The headphones offer premium features like Bluetooth, ANC, and ambient sound sensors, and are designed for comfort and durability during movement. Clayton highlights the importance of a secure fit for passive noise cancellation and immersive sound quality. He also shares his excitement about the potential of LIVV Audio in the market and its benefits for athletes and music enthusiasts.

SUMMARY KEYWORDS

Mark Clayton, LIVV Audio, active lifestyle, premium headphones, secure fit, passive noise cancelation, Bluetooth technology, music enjoyment, entrepreneurial journey, Super Bowl potential, Ravens fan, headphone design, sound quality, athlete headphones, music device

SPEAKERS

Mark Clayton, Nestor Aparicio

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Nestor Aparicio  00:01

Welcome home. We are W, N, S T am 1570 Towson, Baltimore and Baltimore positive, the Maryland crab cake tour out on the road just a few more times this week. We’re to meet cheese on Tuesday, and then on Wednesday, wrapping things up at Costas in. I got a text from Gina shock from the Go Go’s, and she said, Unless I can’t abducted, I’ll be there. And I’m like, well, then good. I mean, she’ll be there on Wednesday. All the brought to my friends at the Maryland lottery. In conjunction with our friends at Jiffy Lube MultiCare, we got a short week this week, Steelers week, big football game. Luke’s going out. I set this guest up a couple of weeks ago, like before the buy and the Eagles and this and that, because he’s a big shout out doing things now. He’s a former wide receiver, first round draft pick around here, and victim, as well as guest of mine on my Monday night live shows. Many, many years ago, it feels like it was about five minutes ago. Mark Clayton, but 20 years now for you, since you did the whole draft thing, it came in here.

Mark Clayton  00:59

Yeah, right there. 2020 well, 2005 here we are. 2024

Nestor Aparicio  01:05

Yeah, man, I’ll tell you. So your headsets made their way, maybe the algorithm, maybe because I talk music and think music and I’m, you know, I don’t want to say I’m an I’m an athlete. You were a real world class athlete. I’m more of an athletic supporter, but as I get older, you know I am. I love yoga. I like walking. My wife likes the woods. I’m not a track guy as much, and I’m not a I’m never going to do the What’s this Pickleball? I’m not doing any of that when it listen, though. But when it comes to music and sports, and I think everybody knows every rapper wants to be a hip hopper, wants to be a baller. We all know that. And before games, there’s always guys in the zone. Michael Phelps had that crazy thing was going on with him at the Olympics, but you’re an athlete, and you know what athletes like? And the one thing that I hate as a dude who just likes my iPod is when the little nipple nipples fall out of your ears and like that. I can’t enjoy music the way I want to enjoy it. When you see that this headset stays on my head, the one I’m wearing here, right? It’s very important, because I’m an animated figure, but I’m also not an athlete. Athletes move, and you’ve created something that I for people watching, they you can show them but, but for people listening. You’ve tried to create a headset for athletes, right?

Mark Clayton  02:30

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Yes, absolutely. You know, I just like, I mean, I’ve had my fair share of problems, and it came from me wanting to wear an overhead headphone that was super secure when I was in Baltimore, you know, an oh eight beats sent headphones to everybody. I got a pair too. And with that, all the pre game warm ups, I wear the headphones. And actually broke a couple pair in pre game warm up. And so fast forward. Go to the Rams. I ruptured my patella tendon. I’m doing these workouts in the pool, and in the pool, my headphones are moving. And at that point it’s like, Man, I don’t want them to get wet. And so from there I was like, Man, I want to create an over ear hip on that I can actually work out in. And that’s, that’s where it all began, all

Nestor Aparicio  03:14

right, dude, I walked off the set here because, literally, like, where I can reach at the foot, I have all of my dead headsets. Are you ready? So these are the little Johnsons that I got. If I have my iPod, but it’s I have a legit iPod. I have an iPod that still has one

Mark Clayton  03:32

of these. Wow. Yeah, yeah. Okay, so

Nestor Aparicio  03:35

like when I would do anything, whether it’s getting on an airline where you don’t have the restricted sound, terrible, terrible at the pool, terrible, terrible everywhere they were, terrible. Okay, so the next thing you know, I meet someone who was in the industry that you’re in, this is a long time ago, maybe 15 years ago. Yeah, maybe 15 years ago. I met somebody who worked for this company called skull candy, and she sent me two sets of these things and, you know, and they’re also like, whatever it’s 15 years ago, but then this happened, I went, I literally went to the pool last summer, and just what you told me, what happened in pregame, they would just break in half, literally, right? Literally, dude, I am not boujing, you okay? I want you to see I’ve had these 15 years. You ready? This is what happened to them. You see this? Just like, boom, done. Broken in half, man. Now I’m trying to, like, lick it, scotch tape it, staple it right, right, right. Don’t be in on your thing, dude, because I got like, I’m obviously, this is for radio. I do have this problem where my wife’s trying to get me onto the Spotify. And I don’t need that annual wrap up about how much Led Zeppelin I’ve been listening to. I don’t need, I don’t need to know that. But for the bottom thing, yours is Wi Fi, Bluetooth, the whole deal, right? Like my, my old. Man, iPods not going to work. You’re an old man like me, but my old man, iPods not going to work with your thing, right,

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Mark Clayton  05:06

correct? Well, our deal is, is 100% premium. So anything in the premium market doesn’t over here. We’re there. So when you you talk about the Sonys, the bowls of the world, Apple, AirPods, Max, all of it. You get your, you know, your ANC, your ambient sound, the sensor that lets you know that the headphones are on or off or off, it’s fully premium. The difference in ours is the design and the fact that is more secure.

Nestor Aparicio  05:34

Well, this was designed. You could jog in it, uh, shoot hoops on your own in it, move fully. Move

Mark Clayton  05:44

precisely. It was the move, yep, okay,

Nestor Aparicio  05:48

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I’ve had you on, and people can go out to YouTube, and your Wi Fi is cutting in and out, and it’s the worst thing, and it’s what I worry about. So nonetheless, um, I had you wanted a couple Super Bowls. No, no, I had you a couple Super Bowls. And you you’ve talked about this product, and you going into this space. You have a big background in Oklahoma. I don’t even know what your major was in college, but this is not like the first time you’ve talked about this. And some of your other peers, like Justin for set is always talking to me about his, his, his cleaning, shower, pill, and you guys should do the entrepreneurial thing. This made it to me recently that you’ve really moved your business into a space. And I wanted to talk football. I just want to have you on and, like, learn a little bit about your journey into entrepreneurship and into, like, developing something that to your point Dre. And these guys had already done beats. They got a documentary. It’s a hell of a documentary, right? But, like, it didn’t work for you as a football player, correct? Correct?

Mark Clayton  06:50

Yeah. I mean, that’s ultimately what it was. It’s like, how do I solve I’m in this, this swimming pool, doing rehab, and I’m like, I I just want to over here, because I love the sound, but I wanted to be secure. And so that’s when I went and started to sketch what I thought would be different. And so I have two patents, three patents, one patent pending, two patents on this headphone, and they all are around the design. So I have an industrial patent based on the way the shape of the headband is. And then I have a design patent, because nobody’s ever designed a headband like that before they’re fully granted and belong to live. And so

Nestor Aparicio  07:24

it’s two Vs, l, I V V. I want people to find it that way. Yep. L,

Mark Clayton  07:29

I V, V. And so the value in going to market with the headphone that is truly made for movement, for an active lifestyle, is tremendous. And you know, with what I have now, this is actually the second model that I’ve made. The first one was crazy when it came to function out like you could I have people doing flips. I went on tour with some parkour, free runner guys, and they’re jumping around, jumping off buildings, flip like, doing all this with the over headphone on. They’re like, Man, this is awesome. But fast forward, that headphone wasn’t for mass market. I didn’t. The majority of people don’t need to be doing flips. You know? They don’t. They’re not jumping off building, not doing all this crazy stuff. And it is. I just

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Nestor Aparicio  08:10

want to do dishes with something that holds on to my head like, I swear to God, this thing, this thing was so heavy. I’m not kidding you. This thing was so heavy on my head before it broke, that it would almost like be uncomfortable on my neck, right, like just sort of putting a little extra or something, something in a place. I’m 56 now. I got a bad back. We’ve already talked about why I’m not golfing, why I’m not in batting cages, why I love tennis, why I’m probably not going to play tennis. I’m going to need to get some work done on my l3 l4 in order to be able to do these things, including surfing, and if this things that are above and beyond, walking through Manhattan or having a little dance, or moving around a little bit, I am, and my planet fitness partners will tell you, I am yoga, yoga, hot yoga is my thing. I’m fit. I don’t have Dad bod. I I’m good like that. But music, dude, you know sports has let me down. Mark, you know this, right? I mean, sports lets people down. It’s disappointing me through a lifetime. Music never lets me down. And there is a point for me where I think the rest of my life, hopefully I don’t go deaf. That would be the worst thing ever, but music would be my jam. So a little extra money, a little more comfort, a little more the reason. And let’s you and I thought Mark Clayton is here, former wide receiver from the ravency. He is the proprietor, owner and the patentee of all things live. They are pro headphones, Li, vv, if you remember mark, give him some love. You don’t have to love Oklahoma to love mark, but let me this is serious business now, because I love music, right? My wife wonders why I don’t take my iPhone. And she’s like, You got Apple this. You have 20,000 things. You could $5 a month, but you know, okay, I have an iPod with i. Had 20,000 CDs our drive. Like I was a DJ. I DJ. I was a music critic in the 80s and 90s. The huge background in music. I love music as much as sports has been my business. Music is always my passion. Ask anybody concerts, all that stuff, and that being said, in the modern era, I am not Spotify. I don’t pay for services. I hate needing Wi Fi to connect to music. I don’t want to do that. I hate that so that my phone. I love that it’s Wi Fi and it does all things that mobile devices do. And I’m a texture. I’m that guy, but I don’t want this to be where I get my music. And it’s not because I had an eight track player or cassette player or real because I did, I had all of that. And it’s not because I’m married to the iPod or the mp three or the little wheel or the string that comes out of it, or any of that. I just need a different device. I’m texting with you. I’m working on here, am I? I can’t process. I don’t want my music on this. This is my where I work. Play text music’s a different thing for me, and it’s like this headset. This is a Microsoft Live Chat 6000 it’s married to my head. It’s meant for spoken word. It makes me not shout. It makes me feel like I’m, you know, an operator or whatever. But from music and device to playing to all of this, we are so conditioned to what we like, including the music you listen to, is probably the music you listen to when you’re 19, like all the rest of us, right? And it’s there. But for me, this thing has far outgrown what I want my music device to be, my Walkman, whatever you would call an old man, device that that needs to be tethered to my headset, uninterruptible, not where I’m on, on what airplane mode or this is on and That’s off, or Dan East notifications in the middle, no, no, and I feel that way when I drive, I don’t have my phone connected to maps this and that I don’t want my phone ringing or text going off when I’m listening to music or even when I’m listening to talk radio. I’m into, like or a podcast. When I’m into I’m into, give me your headset and the design for you and the way that you listen to music, and the way that I need to consider listening to it in order to not be interrupted by real life when I’m doing music, I need to be in another place when I’m doing it. And I haven’t found I’m begging of you. I haven’t found the music device. I have a broken headset. I have things that don’t work, and the way I listen to music mainly, and it pisses my wife off. It’s like, I’m a drummer. I turn the I love loud music, dude. I’m a rock and roll guy and like, I can’t do that. I’m a speaker guy around my place. I don’t work with anybody else. I can holidays. My wife’s gone. I can crank it up, but I need to have a live headset, kind of mojo that’s going to deliver all the music I love. I gotta get away from the iPod. I know I’m an old man, but it can’t be this dude. So help me out. Mark Clayton, alright,

Mark Clayton  13:21

so this is live one.

Nestor Aparicio  13:24

Okay, here we go. I like this show. Hold that up. Talk about it while you hold it up.

Mark Clayton  13:30

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Alright, this bad boy, right here is, I remember that it was really weird. It’s weird. Is that funky? Like a monkey? I like that industrial, like it? Yeah, it is all industrial and it, it is functional. It works. This sucker goes, stay on your head no matter what. But what is also on here is a few gigs with the ability to upload music. So you could upload, I don’t know, a few 1000 songs to this headset just

Nestor Aparicio  13:58

for a vacation. And I’m good, and you’re good, select,

Mark Clayton  14:02

scroll through your tracks or whatnot, but you will be totally disconnected. Yeah, I like

Nestor Aparicio  14:08

that because, like, I have nice hair. I’m I’m not going to let it out for you, right?

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Mark Clayton  14:14

You know what I mean? Long flowy.

Nestor Aparicio  14:17

You haven’t seen me back when you saw me, I was respectable. Remember I was respectable back back in the day? Now I’m that. I’m like, in that Tesla song, took off my hat and said, Imagine that. Hey, me, okay, so I’m a visor guy. I’m an iPod dude. I had a hell of a time on vacation this summer because I broke you some buggers on like, day two, and now, all of a sudden, these were the backups. And it just, I’m like, I’m going to sit in the room and listen to music, and when I’m at the pool in the beach, like I I’ve got to have a better solution. So I’d like, I’m asking you to help me, help myself, enjoy the music. That is the last thing in life I can enjoy. That’s not. Got coffee or sex or a decent steak, you know what

Mark Clayton  15:03

I mean, right? Absolutely. And that, that one does it, and that, as we grow, I have, you know, plans for future iterations of the headphone and getting to this face where, where you’re you’re talking about where it’s like, man, it’s you and your music, and that’s it. And with that, you know, we’ve that’s a sacred

Nestor Aparicio  15:21

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spot, Brother, don’t you? It’s safe.

Mark Clayton  15:23

It is, no matter what you’re doing, whether I mean walking,

Nestor Aparicio  15:28

I don’t want the phone ringing and muting my music when I’m in the car. If you’re calling me, it’s not superseding what I’m already listening to. And like, I can’t, I can’t have that overlay. My wife has it. She has this damn Adele thing and the Bruno Mars connected to her phone. And every time little Johnson goes off, I’m hearing beautiful girls. And I’m Mark Clayton is here. Great. What are your jams? What are you listening to? Great.

Mark Clayton  15:59

I’m a so recently, I’m a little baby guy. Little baby does it for me. So when I tune this down to

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Nestor Aparicio  16:07

the knees. Now, these are, so you have two different models, and that’s all there’s, there’s small, medium and large is just Grande and vente. And that’s all

Mark Clayton  16:14

we got for you. Correct? Absolutely.

Nestor Aparicio  16:17

That’s it. They fit everybody, right? Well, this,

Mark Clayton  16:20

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yeah, so the headphone adjusts, and so you can adjust it. How are you? But there’s

Nestor Aparicio  16:23

not a female and a male or a big head and a small head. No, no,

Mark Clayton  16:27

nope, nope, just like everybody else. Just you got the can. I

Nestor Aparicio  16:32

buy the ninja ones, like for the parkour guys, the earlier ones. No,

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Mark Clayton  16:36

you can’t, but I can get you set up. Nestor, you know, I got you, dude, I got you, brother,

Nestor Aparicio  16:42

you have no idea the next time that I’m doing what I love doing the most, which is nothing other than figuring out on my iPod what mood I’m in today. Am I feeling reggae? Am I feeling classic rock? Good rock, yacht rock, country rock, not too much. I don’t do the country. I mean, I don’t. I’m not a big hip hop, rap guy, but I could do five hours of everything from Sugar Hill and Run DMC and Jay Z and Tupac. I mean, you know, I’m not uncool. I’m just not, I’m a rock guy, right? You know what I mean? Where I eat? You know what I mean? That’s fine. It doesn’t mean I can’t listen to your music or that I don’t like it. Dela Bruno Mars, because I love them both, I just don’t love the same three. So remember when you two put that issue on my iPod, right? And we had the album on there, and it came

Mark Clayton  17:36

no good, no good. They happening that iPod got

Nestor Aparicio  17:39

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stolen from me in the airport, and I was almost blessed that it was gone, because I’d it already lost some functionality anyway, but I’m really trying to figure out how I’m going to enjoy music the rest of my life, and I think maybe you have a tool. So tell everybody, why’d you get into headsets? Dude, like, last I checked you were trying to, like, catch passes from Kyle bowler,

Mark Clayton  18:01

well, I got in because the headphone that I was using when I was at a critical point in my career, which is doing rehab from another injury the head says I was using, wasn’t working for me, flat, blank period. And so that just

Nestor Aparicio  18:15

beat your rehab better, because you had 100 hours. What did you hurt? What did you rupt your patella tendon. Oh, now that doesn’t hurt at all. So you have ice, pain, rehab, stim surgery, like all of that and and at that point in your life, if your relatives drive you crazy, and if reading the Internet, what like, you just want to go into your little zone. Man, right? I want to go

Mark Clayton  18:37

in the zone and do the pool work that I’m supposed to be doing, and not worry about these headphones bouncing up and down while I’m running. And there’s

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Nestor Aparicio  18:45

something else about just like when I do an hour long yoga to program an hour of yoga for the music I’m in the mood for today. Now, I will tell you prior to us meeting, I put a yoga room together here recently. It’s one of my New Year’s resolutions, more at home, and I’m a speaker guy, no. I mean, there’s not a day of my life where my iPod that is 40,000 songs, is not connected enough to drive my wife crazy, listening to Conway Twitty sometimes. I mean, I you know, and I crank up some guns and roads. I do what I do, but having a headset that would work for me is something, and I don’t mean to be flipping with you. I’ve never considered it, because all of these things have been ish, all of them, none of these. Dude, I swear to God, this summer, I really wanted some loud music, and it was, it was a hot summer morning, and I tried a headset, and my neck like just leaning over doing dishes and stuff

Mark Clayton  19:41

that looks like a helmet to me, like it probably feels like a wearing a helmet too. Yeah.

Nestor Aparicio  19:46

It looks like Yeah, yeah. We still insecure. I need better. I need to do better. So what do I do to get your head? Can I can I demo it somewhere, or is it for sale at Best Buy? Or like I do? Just right where can people get ahold of it without having to go all the way in and buy it and take it, take a spin on it.

Mark Clayton  20:07

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So for you, Nestor, we we will figure getting you a headphone because it’s Nestor. But right now we are, we’re up for pre order on our own website, live audio.com, l, I, V, V audio com, and what we’re doing is we, we show up, and I have a lot of people who had my first model that we’re shooting content with, allowing them to test and play around with the new model that will be posted on our own socials. But taking it, taking it for a spin, will be after a purchase.

Nestor Aparicio  20:43

What’s the wildest thing you’ve done with the headset on, personally, to to have it hold on to your head. And I don’t mean something like, like doing a carry STRUG routine, or, you know what I mean, like, you know, Simone Biles I I’m not saying that crazy.

Mark Clayton  20:58

Nothing crazy with this the jump rope, you know, like just jumping rope. Jumping rope is, you know, and that’s one of

Nestor Aparicio  21:03

the things that even way on your head.

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Mark Clayton  21:07

This is a, this is nine ounces. Yeah, I don’t

Nestor Aparicio  21:10

know what this thing on my head weighs, and I wear it all day, but I don’t even know what’s on point. Yeah, yeah, there’s a point for me with this. It’s really light. This thing’s really, really light, and that’s what one of the reasons I really it’s enough, it’s enough cushioning around my ear to block out if my wife’s out, if the cat’s meowing, right now I don’t hear it, you know, which is where I need to be. And it’s the microphones been, it’s, it’s, and I’m am radio, right? So I don’t really want to broadcast in big ball stereo that FM echoey people are just listening to us. They’re not making out to us. It’s not Led Zeppelin. It’s am radio. So I have, you know, and look, I’ve been in radio 3334 years now, like having headsets is a big, big, big part of my life, the fact that I’m not deaf now, although I’m scared to death to, like, find out, what does that? Yeah, I don’t Yeah. I don’t even Yeah. I mean, I’m afraid of my baseline.

Mark Clayton  22:08

Just keep living

Nestor Aparicio  22:10

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well, livv, but there is a point for me where wearing a headset has been my job for four hours a day for 33 years. Or, like, give or take that. I don’t necessarily want a headset, but part of it is I’ve never had a comfortable one. You know what? I mean, I’ve never had a truly comfortable music headset ever in my life. And radio, dude, you’re talking about a guy years done. I mean, I’m not being a dick. I’ve done 100,000 hours of me, at least 50,000 going on 100,000 hours of radio with some, usually something on my head. I did have a couple of years where I didn’t like wearing the headset, and I had a monitor, and the mic was here so it wouldn’t feed back, and I would even listen to the calls that took phone calls for 22 years mark, right? So I know a lot about this, but I don’t know anything about it because I’m don’t develop it. I just know what I don’t like, which is most of it, right?

Mark Clayton  23:11

Yes,

Nestor Aparicio  23:12

and that’s where you want, right?

Mark Clayton  23:14

Yeah, you’re not the only one. And you know, with that, you got a call that’s called Set headset. That headset is not meant to create a sound hall that gives you a sound experience that is immersive at all. And so when you, when you do that, you’re going to

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Nestor Aparicio  23:29

never listen to music in this just, yeah, not even, like on YouTube or whatever. Like, this is where I have meetings, and then it, you know, I don’t if you were and I were having a business meeting, I ripped the headset off and just talked into the computer like you’re talking to me right now, and your sound sucks, and it’s going to sound awful the radio because you don’t have a mic source. That’s good. So that’s another part of this. You know, the other thing with a lot of these, like, and I keep holding this crazy old skull candy, old thing that’s broken. This thing had a mic on the it had an original cable. I mean, we’re talking it’s a 15 year old device, right, it had a mic off of it. It wasn’t like you would, you would sound better on the radio right now if you were, but it was also like you could talk, you know, like you could talk off, off the lapel mic or whatever. None of them were great mics, but they let you talk on the phone. And again, I see these Bluetooth things that people got the little clips on their ears. All of them sound awful to me on the radio. All of them sound awful to you on your ear, like I so that’s therefore I don’t own one. I had the ones that went over my ear. Every time I bought them, I wasted money because I hated wearing it. Once. You hate wearing it,

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it’s over.

Nestor Aparicio  24:41

It’s over, whether it’s a shirt, whether it’s a tie, if you hate wearing it, you’ll just pull something else out, or you’ll do what I do, which is have these things sitting around 30 years later and keep them as the backup to the backup to the backup plan. And you still and you put them in your ears, and you’re like, who would Apple ever. I decided to put this into an ear. Yeah,

Mark Clayton  25:02

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that is, oh, that is the first one.

Nestor Aparicio  25:07

Man wild, but you wore this, didn’t you?

Mark Clayton  25:10

Yeah? Oh, I had those. Yeah, definitely. So you know what the market was is, once

Nestor Aparicio  25:15

you know what bad is, you can make what good is, or what, in your case, is, what makes yours Great? What did you borrow from beats and bows and like all of those companies we’ve heard of, to develop something that’s for athletes, that they’re not going to sacrifice what? And listen, I’m probably deaf enough that I wouldn’t be able to tell you what a high quality Pink Floyd $400 download to the sound, you know, versus just listening to it. I love music. I’m not that

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Mark Clayton  25:46

guy. I’m not the nerd sound engineer. Yeah, I’m not

Nestor Aparicio  25:49

a sound engineer, but I’d love to know what good sound is. Yeah, I’m not a wine cellulite, but I know what good wine tastes like. You know what I mean. So what makes you know, when I put yours on, give me a little experience, because I don’t have great experience listening. I don’t have $600 b I didn’t buy any of them because none of them were comfortable. I wasn’t Wi Fi up, right? I’m not used to anything that’s really, really good. Quite frankly,

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you know, not that the expectations are high either.

Mark Clayton  26:23

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I mean, but at the end of the day, dude, like, the thing that differentiates this one is literally the fit. And so because of the fit we get, we get a lot of benefits. One is passive noise cancelation. You know, everybody in the premium space has active noise, noise.

Nestor Aparicio  26:38

I know what that sounds like on an airplane, so I’m very, very it’s an amazing thing. And Bo’s made a fortune in Best Buy, which you click the button on all the sound, and the best buy goes away, and you’re like, oh my god, right. So, like, that was 2025, years ago. Yeah, it was like, and then once you do it that way, you can’t, you can’t, you do this

Mark Clayton  26:59

on the plane, you can, you can go back exactly. So, I mean, and that that’s like a standard in premium period. So everybody has to have it. But passive noise cancelation is not a standard. But I get great passive noise cancelation because our headphone has such a secure fit, like it’s crazy, I’m looking for, like,

Nestor Aparicio  27:19

putting some sting on and doing an hour of yoga where, yeah, yeah. Like, that’s where I want to go. I gotta figure the device at L i v v audio. L, I V V audio. Mark Clayton, my longtime friend, two decades and guests, uh, former ravens wide receiver, now on your along with Jay Z, you got anything on the Ravens? I mean,

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Mark Clayton  27:43

yeah. I mean, you know, obviously last week was, I think I enjoyed us doing what we’re supposed to do. But, you know, earlier in the season, come in Casey happens. But I’m looking at the team like, Man, this, this team is, is such a good team, and still has, Super Bowl potential. And, you know, first few weeks, up and down, our defense first half of the season, no bueno. But at the end of the day, I was just always just watching his team, his offense is unbelievable, and felt like our defense would eventually find a way to stop the bleeding enough that our offense would be able to continue to carry us and get into the playoffs, make some opportunistic plays on defense, because I think all the games are going to be close regardless, but we have the difference maker in Lamar and Derek Henry and so, I mean, I’ve obviously enjoyed watching, and I’m still a huge fan, but this season, I just, I feel like they definitely have Super Bowl potential.

Nestor Aparicio  28:47

Well, you know, it’s just a long road, and they’ve paved this more difficult way for themselves at Buffalo and city. And, man, look, I sit here and talk about it five days a week, you played the game 24 hours a day for a number of years, and you’re enjoying yourself in this entrepreneurial role. Are you? Mark Clayton, I

Mark Clayton  29:05

am indeed. I am indeed. It is fun, man, it is, you know, unexpected. I never thought I’d be doing this making like, create a hip I’ve been to China multiple times and at a factory and got this done like, and it is incredible.

Nestor Aparicio  29:19

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Next time I have you on. I’m gonna get your your new headset Mike, and we’ll get together. And if you’re back in town when I’m doing a crab kick tour, come sit with me and let’s talk about this journey and the things you’ve seen. Because as much as anything, for all you jocks, and you know, the washed up jocks like you and the washed up former journalists like me, when we get together. It’s life’s journey. And yeah, you made some money playing football, and you did some things. You experienced things in life. Now you’re in a different space in life, and I think we all go through that right? Like every player is not a player anymore, no matter what they were doing and whatever the focus is, even if just raising a family hitting a golf ball would do a journey if you made that much money. Jo and some other guy. I live in that way. That’s cool. Then there were other guys like you. You made some money, you put it away or whatever, but you’re like, I’m 35 years old. I gotta do something, and I gotta do something that has passion and traveling the world to see it and develop it. That’s a longer story. Let’s do that next time. But in the meantime, tell people how to find you and find your your headset and and get involved in it. And you got celebrities wearing your stuff. You got all that going on, right?

Mark Clayton  30:24

Yeah, that’s coming. That’s coming. We’re not there yet. And so that’s, that’s a big part of when you talked about testing it, we’re, I will have so many people wearing this headphone here in the next month January, that will be really cool in test phase, but at the same time, I know they’re going to love it, and so a lot of that engagement is going to be huge for everybody getting to see the headphone publicly, and when they land on everybody’s doorstep and they get to experience it personally, I have no doubt that they’re going to be like, this is, this is freaking awesome.

Nestor Aparicio  30:57

Alright, last thing for you, and I’m going to just going to drop the mic on this. Because my kid came up with this. My buddy’s like, an executive with Live Nation, and I went to him, this is on our next we’re gonna do this again. Okay, we are. Because we gotta, like, I get serious business talk to you. The thing I hate more than anything is paying X amount of dollars, whether it’s 20 bucks to sit on the lawn at Merriweather, or it’s 400 to sit in the second row for sting or for Van Halen or whatever. And I don’t pay 400 because I’m a cheapskate. Maybe 200 on a good night, two and a quarter, but, like, I got a limit, right? Like, I’m not the $1,000 you know? But all that being said Doesn’t matter where you sit if you have a jackass next to you talking when Bruce Springsteen is singing drive all night and you’ve paid to be there, it’s awful. My kid said I would pay more to be able to wear a headset at a concert that just blocks out jackasses and feeds me bored sound something to think about. Mark Clayton is here, wide receiver legend in Oklahoma as well. And congratulations on the market. And I see it. I want to give it some love and talk about it, and maybe wear it when I’m doing old guy yoga stuff, and after the surgery, I’m going to need it for pickleball. Pickleball, don’t get me Stop. Get me started. I am Nestor. He is Mark Clayton. We are wnsta in 1570 Towson, Baltimore. We never stop talking Baltimore, positive.