Nearly a year after his legendary departure from WMAR-TV 2, the pride of Overlea Jamie Costello joins Nestor at Koco’s Pub on the Maryland Crab Cake Tour to discuss storytelling, Baltimore and the trials and tribulations of Little League coaching life in Annapolis.
Nestor Aparicio and Jamie Costello reminisce about their Baltimore roots, including frequenting Burke’s restaurant and sharing memories of local landmarks. Costello discusses his retirement and new venture, “Costello Your Story,” where he tells uplifting stories for companies. They talk about the Orioles’ struggles, the importance of leadership, and the impact of injuries on young players. Costello shares his passion for coaching Little League and his love for Annapolis. They also discuss the beauty of Maryland, including the Maryland Zoo’s Night Illuminations and the charm of local eateries like Doc Street and Middleton’s. Nestor Aparicio and Jamie Costello reminisce about their experiences coaching youth sports. Nestor recalls coaching a basketball team with Fountain on Saturday mornings, leading to a memorable encounter with a former player, Beano Ranso, who later became a successful coach. Jamie shares stories of coaching Mark Amatucci’s son, Michael, who is now a coach at Calvert Hall and Hood, and Greg Carpenter’s nephew, Brad, a great pitcher. They discuss the importance of sportsmanship, teamwork, and the lasting impact of coaching on young lives. The conversation also touches on the joy of coaching and the challenges of youth sports.
SUMMARY KEYWORDS
Baltimore, Jamie Costello, retirement, Little League, crab cakes, Burke’s restaurant, Annapolis, Orioles, storytelling, community, Maryland lottery, local news, sports, coaching, family., coaching, basketball team, Little League, Baltimore, sportsmanship, teamwork, youth sports, all-star game, coaching stories, community impact, sports memories, coaching experiences, local sports, team success, coaching legacy
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Jamie Costello, Nestor Aparicio
Nestor Aparicio 00:01
Welcome home. We are W, N, S, T, am 1570 Towson, Baltimore. We are Baltimore positive. And we are positively going back to the future. We’ve got the the 88 symbol on these Maryland lottery scratch offs and give them out. I’ve given out half my stack here. We’re at a Coco’s pub, one of my favorite places. I’ve already had the coconut shrimp we have today. A very, very special thing, not just to Jamie Costello is here, but I think this is something that maybe will tackle the old Baltimore soul in you, okay, that I saw upon your retirement. Yeah. Did you ever frequent Burke’s restaurant? Yes, of course you did. You’re Jamie Costello. It
Jamie Costello 00:43
was George ward. George Ward was a photographer. I was a rookie reporter, and in those days, the photographer had to get a lunch. We’re into Burke. It was dark. I can still they still have no lights. Anyway. Now
Nestor Aparicio 00:56
what was romantic is what romantic and he had a
8Jamie Costello 00:59
full course meal at Burke, right there in the beautiful corner in so town
Nestor Aparicio 01:03
as a as a very young man, yes, an impressionable 15 year old working at the News America. And we would close the edition, and we walk up the Burkes. Yeah, and little Nestor would be there, maybe 16, maybe 17, maybe 18, when their age was still 21 pushing it. And there would be a frosted Michelob, not ultra light. Michelob light, yeah, right on the draft. And they would give you the frosted goblet. I felt like it was like a chalice of light beer. And then I would order the crab melt, and it would come perfect with the extra sharp cheddar cheese on the crab melt on the English muffin, perfect French fries and delicious coleslaw and a cold beer. Am I making your day? You are making it well. You’re in a place where this can happen here at Coco. So for the last three years, I’ve been telling Marcella this, and we’re gonna get her on later on. And if you want a crab melt, I can make that happens. The crab melts on special today, Liz will do it up for us, and Eric back in the kitchen. So the last couple years, I she has these giant crab cakes here at Cocos. You know about this? It’s not your first time at the rodeo, so there’s big as your head. And I take it home, and I don’t know what to do with that big old softball, right? So I quarter it, don’t tell her. And sometimes I even fry it up. Don’t tell her, because it’s heresy to fry crab cake, apparently, in this town. But I, I got some bays, English muffins, and I took her crab meat, which is really, really similar to the Burke’s recipe. I’ve eaten a lot of crab cake, so I started making these at home about a year, year and a half ago, and I did a whole term with Pete over at Costas, because I’ve used his crab meat to do it, too, yeah. But Marcellus crab meat is identical, really, to the Burke’s recipe. So when I eat her crab cake quarter, because I can’t put all that. And so today we are honoring Burks and royal farms, I guess, and Mickey Coachella from the comedy club. We’re having crab military. And I just wondered if you’d ever had one, you
Jamie Costello 02:53
would never have Yes, way back, no, here, no, yeah, but you’ve had the crab case here works. No, no. All right. Well, today’s our day, roast beef. And what? Roast beef and gravy and french fry? Oh, man,
Nestor Aparicio 03:05
8yes, yes and yes and yes and yes and
Jamie Costello 03:08
comedy. Yeah, that was good stuff. How are you good man? Last I saw
Nestor Aparicio 03:13
you, your wife was in glee and gloating for having surprised you with the nap town that came. And I see him on a commercial, Nadia Annapolis commercial, visit an apples. I visit an apples all the time. See Jamie and everybody else that lives down there. You had a goodbye party last year. It was in a year ago. My wife was on crutches. She broke her and, right, yes, he was in June that you had your June. That’s right, it’s been a year you’ve been retired. How about that? The hell you’ve been doing yourself nothing, well, well, I
Jamie Costello 03:44
mean, other than nothing, my wife has put me to work. Yeah, you get a Costello. Me about it. What’s going on? Yeah, she started this company a couple years ago, and she said, you want to come join? I said, Okay. And you know what my first gig was, Don Moeller. Don Moeller hired me to do a four part series on trade point, Atlantic, okay, and I was off and running. Okay, so we went over to trade point. What’d you do over there? We did the that’s my dad worked there, right point, right? Well, that that was the point. And what we did was we a lot of concern about the Sparrows Point container terminal that’s coming in, uh huh, and we just went out there and showed him what’s going to happen. It’s going to be, it’s going to be big. It’s, well, it’s going to be, it’s going to raise us up to the third, fourth, biggest port in America. We
8Nestor Aparicio 04:30
got to, you know, we got the tariffs. Or, you know, I mean, I’m talking about that. You’re seeing these ports out in the west coast that have no cargo. Just heard 38% down. Wow. Yeah. I mean, you know the
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cargo coming in, telling
Nestor Aparicio 04:41
the stories of Baltimore. And I know, man, you always wanted to tell the pot, it’s who you are. You were the original. I mean, I do Baltimore positive, but I’m stealing it from you. I mean, no. I mean, I go back to my childhood and yours. Before you were in television, you saw Marty bass catching back. Ass. You saw Dan Rodricks doing Rodricks on, you know, on the street, doing his thing, right? And then he does his breakfast thing, and all of that, you were the next wave of that. Marty still doing it in the morning, right, but just coming out and doing this, hanging out with Marcy, watching Liz make crab cakes, figuring out how we’re doing a crab melt special, seeing what’s going on up the street here with Zeke’s coffee, seeing him. What’s going on? Tell me good neighborhood story. Tell me something that’s good that’s happening out there, that that defines who Jamie Costello is, as I know
Jamie Costello 05:29
8you know what? Driving up here today, I thought the time when Dan Roberts and I used to have a contest, name it Bel Air road or Harford road. Ready? Go ahead. All right, Hacienda Bella Bella road, you sure about that 100% Bel Air Road, go ahead. All right, there was another one. Hold on. Oh, man, keep going. But we always had that contest, Bel Air road or Harford road. Oh, Stella’s, Stella’s Stellas
Nestor Aparicio 05:53
is Harford road, right. All right. How about Angelina’s Harford Road, Harford Road, Okay, how about Scott donohoos? Bel Air Road, Bel Air Road, how about the Earl, the good movies, and then the X Harford, Hartford road. You know how I know that the late, great Phil Forrester? Did you know Phil
Jamie Costello 06:14
Forrester? Yes, who ran the hacienda, and then he went car, he went out to padonia. Yeah. Ran Christopher, Daniel, yeah. Before that the parlay cafe. Parlay cafe, it’s a Phil forest cafe. Used to have colossal shrimp on Monday night. I mean, they were bigger than this table. Have
Nestor Aparicio 06:30
you ever had a coconut shrimp here at Cocos? Can they compare? Yes, I’m gonna bring them in. I’m gonna get you some coconut shrimp. Yeah. So Phil Forrester would always Phil. I would always go in. I missed the hacienda, that guy, whoever caught it on fire. Shame on you. But he would always say, Oh, you’re here for dinner and a movie tonight. And of course, you know the Earl across the street was having some John’s home. Great guy. Harry reams, double special. Jamie is here, and I have dragged you out. I’ve been trying for 11 months. All I see you doing on Facebook is being the husband you wanted to be happy retired old fart that you are, and this young old guy with little kids running around playing baseball and T ball and any kind of balls get
8Jamie Costello 07:20
signed up for my third team to coach this year. So we got an eight under I got a T baller, and then we’re going to have a tournament team this summer. Wow. And the kids are getting younger and better. It’s, it’s left handed,
Nestor Aparicio 07:34
right handed. What do we got going? I got right hand, two right handers, two right hand. You throw BP because I can’t throw a party, bro. Yeah, I love it.
Jamie Costello 07:42
No, you put a uniform on. You feel like you’re 20 again. You run out there. My mentor is Timmy Norris, yeah, love that guy. Love that guy. I always follow what he’s saying. I say Timmy,
Nestor Aparicio 07:56
8there you go. Why Timmy Norris? Because I have a high history. Go ahead. He threw a no hitter every other day. Remember when he was curling, okay, every other day? Soon, ours, Where’d you grow up? Tell everybody you went to that red red, red, red house, Red House run, right. I was gonna say little red brick. Little Red Brick station next, next Wednesday. Little Red run. Red
08:18
House red. Red House run. Jessica,
Nestor Aparicio 08:21
they build Jessica Rosedale area, right? Pretty much, right. That’s, that’s your background, right? So I, you know, I guess getting around this city and finding out who’s been where and who goes where, and all that I your 40 years. I’ll tell you how many you do, 37 I was gonna say 40. But 37 years. How do you unplug? Because I’ve been doing this 35 years now, and I’m not ready to unplug. I’m a little unplugged on the Orioles and the Ravens, to be honest with you, just given my treatment and just given like, what I’d like to be doing for a living, and what I’m doing for a living, which is has great value for me, but you serve the community in one capacity, in one way, you’re known to everyone as that guy, and then you take that, that that leap to do something else. What’s you feel? It feels like you have a lot of life left in you, not just to tell trade point Atlantis. That’s what I’m I’m not even kidding you about this, because 11 months out, I would say, right now, if you came to me and said, Nestor, here’s a million dollar bonus. Take a little time off when you get ready to go work again and do whatever you want to do. And that might be this, it might be sports. It might not, I don’t know, lobbying on good causes, doing charity, all the things, because I had Viviano out right? And Viviano and yours kindred speak. He’s from St Louis, but you’re like
Jamie Costello 09:36
to be the Pope. I think he’s going to be,
8Nestor Aparicio 09:39
no, no, no. He’s gonna be a little league coach like you. It’s all he wanted to talk we do want to play. All he wanted to do was talk about Little League, right? And I think for all of not us, because I’m still doing this, for you who did this, and I even said to Viviano, it’s like, I feel like I’ve been on television 35 years, because I do all this broadcasting or whatever, like you. Feel like you’re never off, right? I feel like whenever I put channel two, one in the morning, you’re there. I’m like, does he go home? You know what I mean? Because you were, like, always there. And I feel that way about local news. I don’t know that we’ll ever feel that way again, or there’ll ever be another Jamie Costello, but I think that the cold turkey part of, hey, you’re not working here anymore, go home, be with the family, there’s a little point where that’s great and that’s fun for a while, but then there’s like, all right, you’ve, you’ve got such experience, you should be out telling these stories every day, even if you don’t want to be.
Jamie Costello 10:33
Yeah, we just did a story a couple weeks ago. You know, John, John Scallon scallion used to run at the Baltimore Civic Center. Brought the blast into town. Okay? He was, he was the original guy. So he calls and says, I want you to do a story on Let’s eat nasty. Catherine Morneau, okay, army of one gets a van, takes it to sprouts, takes it to giant. They’re throwing food away. Let’s say expiration date tomorrow. Hold on, we’ll take that food today, puts it in a box, puts it in the van at three o’clock in the morning, ships it over to the Logan, the place down in Dundalk, the villages, Logan village, yeah, and played, literally, football. They go right in. They give it to the people. They set up a makeshift grocery store. Nobody knew about. Chris Tipton,
Nestor Aparicio 11:19
Ryan’s doing this out in West Baltimore started doing a torna COVID feeding people seems so fundamental, you know. And I And in a country where we have such abundance, you know, right? And seeing people, it’s
Jamie Costello 11:31
8easy to do, and she’s doing it. She’s incredible. She walked through the Senior Center. They people in wheelchairs got up, clapping for and that’s all it is. Well, that’s
Nestor Aparicio 11:43
real. That’s the real. That’s right. But, I mean, as a broadcaster, you went out with a microphone and a camera, yeah, and a bright light trying to shine light on that, on those stories, you know? And I don’t know that that was an E Dick down at 6400 York Road from the top saying you’re gonna tell the good stories. It felt like that that’s who you were, and that you that is the kind of news. Look You said here in red murders, read all the bad news, all the same stuff on Fox 45 that gets pushed into that. It’s bad, it’s bad, it’s bad. That’s never who you were. I don’t think you could have worked in that environment. I don’t think it’s you. I don’t think it’s who your soul is. Now
Jamie Costello 12:20
you gotta tell the positive stuff. You gotta have that pot. You gotta tell the I just got a real nice call today from someone who just landed a job in Tallahassee, Florida, and he wanted some advice on how to find that story. And I went, gee, I love that somebody knocking on my door to ask for advice for that. You know what? I’ll tell you a good story. Remember Our Lady of Fatima used to I
Nestor Aparicio 12:42
was I was confirmed, big confirmation, First Communion, all my CCD with Mr. Larry. I was talking about that last week with John Allen, that we both want the CCD together so they remember when
8Jamie Costello 12:55
they had Sports Night. I was there as Orioles Colts. How do you know about this? My my uncle. Uncle John used to be like a board of director or fat.
Nestor Aparicio 13:08
What’s his last name? Costello. Okay, John Costello, right. I’m sure I knew him as a child.
Jamie Costello 13:15
So anyway, he invites me, I’m a young kid to be near see, oh, you know, I’ll tell you exactly who it was, who Neil was involved. I know he was, who was the tight end for the Colts. Pretty good guy. Later years. Reese
Nestor Aparicio 13:30
8McCall, no, 8182 that’s close, though recently, good No, he must 8182 8182 tight end for the Colts. Go ahead. So
Jamie Costello 13:40
anyway, go ahead. I’m there, and I’m giving them holy heck, because, you know, Hey, I hear you’re moving and all that. He’s tired of it all. And guess who’s in the audience doing this?
Nestor Aparicio 13:49
Tim Sherwin, no, no, okay, I’m trying. I’m trying. I
Jamie Costello 13:56
may be Go ahead. Okay, so I see this guy sitting in the in the audience,
8Nestor Aparicio 14:00
Pat Beach, no one. Pat Beach, I’m going through the names I’m going through all go ahead.
Jamie Costello 14:06
Sure it may have been Timmy, okay, go ahead. All right, anyway, who’s sitting out there, and all of a sudden, at the end of the program, he gets up, comes up to me, goes, son, you got a great career ahead of you, and he walks away. Who was John Steadman, steady. I must have been 19. What year? Oh, is 8283 okay?
Nestor Aparicio 14:30
No, 8182 here’s my man. We Jamie Costello and I get together at Cocos. It’s gonna take all night because I got a Tim Norris story watching him pitch up a pony league at the Eastwood Little League up on the Joseph Lee field. I saw him throw the winners. He was up my dad, we would my dad would say, Tim Norris is pitching up on for pony league up at Eastwood and the All Stars in July and August, up on the field. My dad and I took the bus to watch Jim Norris pitch 10. Times in 1978 79 that’s funny, man, and I’ve never met him. Norris, I don’t know. I’ve never met him. No, I gotta go. He would be a big celebrity in my world. All right, if he comes and does the show with me, all right, I would give him the not too much, because he went to curly but I would give him the some respect that he was great man, great sports night at Fat em up. So I went to Fatima my whole life as a child. And bat 7778 79 is when SPORTS NIGHT started. And I don’t know it’s somebody no more than me, but when my dad saw it in the in the brochure, in the church brochure, that there was a Sports Night, we bought and of course, it came paper plate, yeah. And it was, it was, it was roast beef and gravy, mashed potatoes, green beans and a roll. And one of those cakes that came in the box right, right with it, with the, with the with the icing on top, and you cut it square, it was your chocolate or vanilla. And that’s that was Sports Night. I think it’s from Herman’s. So I have in my polaroid collection. And Johnny Rollo can speak to this because John and I, John went to Fatima. He was an altar boy. I was an altar boy. Imagine that, but I was an altar boy there at Fatima. So, 7778 7980 my dad took me. I was 1011, 12. I was born 68 so what year were you born? 59 you ain’t that much older than me, and I thought you were behind, yeah, 68 so I’m talking about, I’m 1011, 12. So I had a little Instamatic camera. I have pictures. I got a picture of Cal Ripken senior, smoking a heater up at the dinner at the table, because, because the table was in the front, you were the MC a little thing. So you would have let me guess Danny Wright, who was the jockey, yes, to your left, right? Of course, of course, I was at all these things, man, this is, I’m not making this up, right? Danny Wright was connected to somebody in the parish. Every year he was a jockey. That is funny. There was a there was a player who was a Kansas City Chief, who was a Baltimore kid that I think went to West Virginia. I mean, I’m going back 1988 when he was a fringe he was a specialty, but he came and the blast would send Kenny Cooper, or the blast would send Jim pollaghan or Danny counts when they were right. I’m talking 8234 because the blast weren’t even here in 79 so I have pictures of Cal senior, but here’s my favorite one, about 8081. Maybe right when you so I’m asking you, because if you may have been the MC, because I would have been 13 or 14, I still was going to church, and my dad was still alive, and we went to Sports Night every year, so I might have attended the one that you did. And I mean, I have vivid memories in the pictures of all of this stuff, but Stedman, I talked him into coming and doing it for me at my parish when I got to gnome in the late 80s, but in the early 80s, finding like celeb the Colts were here the Orioles l Rod was there every year. Elrod came. Or Cal senior came every year. I mean, this is why I did the nasty, nice guy awards, because it was the only thing I knew were blast Orioles Colts. That’s it. Jockeys, college people. They were just always celebrities in the basement of my little church, right? Yeah, sold out, packed and it was like a tradition every year to place be a part of it, yeah? And I, I guess I go back to my childhood that picture, Cal, I’m gonna send it to you. Have a picture gal break in in my basement at my lady of fatimus, I can’t believe you were part of that. Yeah, way back. Yeah. That was great. I loved it. Done. Thought stories and Highland town stories, Annapolis for you, yes, give me the love of that for you, because you’re like a Rosedale guy. Rosedale guys don’t move to
Jamie Costello 18:55
8an I know, I know I had a little struggle at the beginning, because I, you know, I love it, man, they, they every weekend, there’s a reason to get out and enjoy it. I mean, you don’t, you don’t have to go downtown. I mean, what drew
Nestor Aparicio 19:08
you to it? I mean, you wife was already there. So
Jamie Costello 19:13
we so that’s where you decided to go. I’m not gonna go anywhere. I love it. There. I love it. The people are great. Everything. Esport. I LOVE EAST esport, those people.
Nestor Aparicio 19:24
I’ll go over to Davis, over there. I’ll go, I’ll go to boat yard. I know all about they are
8Jamie Costello 19:29
in. They think, they think differently, let me tell you. And they have a party for everything. It’s coming up next Saturday at noon. They have what’s called the esport point 02 race. It’s a the bridge race. It takes all of three minutes to get across. They
Nestor Aparicio 19:47
had the fire across the other side at the at the country club, right, right? So
Jamie Costello 19:51
they have that. They have the bridge run. They have the the tug of war between Annapolis and and esport. I mean. It’s like every weekend there’s something to do. And I love it. The Mayor, Mr.
Nestor Aparicio 20:04
8Franjo, down at the boatyard rose that party at the at the museum,
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the Maritime Museum, up at
Nestor Aparicio 20:11
the end, he, he, he brought in John, John and Peter Mayer, not John Mayer, John Mayer. John Mayer from the Jimmy Buffett’s band. Yeah, yeah. So he brought the coral reefers basically in because he was friends with right dick. Fran, you knows them. Knew Jimmy. Well, Jimmy used to eat crab cakes in the boat yard down there. That’s true. That’s right. So, I mean, he would throw that soiree, I’m talking like 1500 people in Eastport, out on that pier. Listen to Jimmy Buffet watching the sunset. Yeah, I mean, it’s, I love Annapolis, but just feels like a day trip from a kid from Dundalk and a kid that lives in Towson. Now, you know what I mean, moving all the way to Annapolis, you know that’s almost Eastern Shore. Well, we
Jamie Costello 20:52
got Cal down there. Now, Cal lives there. Who else? Somebody just
8Nestor Aparicio 20:57
well, vivid honors in Anne Arundel County Park. What is this migration to this about that?
Jamie Costello 21:03
He’s an SP, he’s a Green Hornet. We don’t talk to those. Do
Nestor Aparicio 21:07
you ever wake up in the morning and put your suit on and get in the car and make your way to channel two and, no, turn around. Yeah, yeah. You haven’t made that. My wife,
Jamie Costello 21:13
8who was in the business, she has those, you know, like, where’s my makeup detox five o’clock and I don’t have my earpiece in? Yeah. I’m wondering what’s gonna happen when I don’t have this i That’s why I’m asking. You’re gonna have it, you’re gonna have it. Where’s my headset? I can’t find my headset. Where is it? Where’s the on button? Where’s the
Nestor Aparicio 21:29
bigger problem? I own a radio station, so my biggest problem is, did I program the radio station? You came in and you’re like, I was listening in the car. You were talking to somebody. I’m like, no, no, no, I taped the show. It’s not live anymore. I mean, I did live and I don’t take but it is amazing when you do this long enough, yeah, how much things change. Oh, I mean, in your world, the internet happened when I started,
Jamie Costello 21:49
we did film so that we go out and shoot film and bring it back, and he’d have to splice.
Nestor Aparicio 21:54
That’s why your old video clips look so cool. Splice, Gee. I mean, the old man on the street, stuff you did when you were really
8Jamie Costello 22:02
young. It was fun for them to let me do that kind of stuff. You can’t do that today, but when I saw
Nestor Aparicio 22:06
your at your retirement, that you had down at the harbor, you and your wife put this huge reel together of never before seen, I think it was outtakes, so some of your stuff, or whatever. And you can see the beauty of film. I’ll
Jamie Costello 22:21
be honest with you, my father, every day would go home at 445 he’d go three stops. He’d go to the post office in Rosedale, he’d go to the giant and then he’d go to the bank, the equitable bank, and then he’d come home at 445 and get in front of the TV, and he’d record, he’d record the five and the six and the 11, and then he’d record the morning show every single day. I have 450 VCR tapes that they took, and they just, and there’s a lot of there’s Ken mats, and there’s Sally Thorner, and they’re introducing, and he was a little slower times Horace Holmes, and there was a little delay sometimes, oh, with the story. So he was Rudy. Rudy. Rudy. Such a
Nestor Aparicio 23:12
8crush on Rudy. When I was a little boy, still looking every time I see Rudy, I always see she gives me a hard time. She flirts with me. Now
Jamie Costello 23:19
that’s good, now. But I mean, the the golden age of television, you know, like the anchorman age that you lived through, did you ever want to be anything else? No, I had no plan B. No. Plan B. How did it even happen? I don’t even know. I got I’ll tell you two stories. Number one, my father, we were stationed at Fort Holabird, and my father was Trant, had to go to tour in Korea. So when I’m in Rosedale with my mother, my my early 70s, oh, 660s Okay, and my brother was going to the to the Citadel in South Carolina. So it’s me and my mom in the house, and I heard
Nestor Aparicio 23:56
everything. And you’re not Marylanders. You were, you were trained, you were transient, no worries, yeah, but your father live was from here.
Jamie Costello 24:04
Oh yeah. Oh no, he’s from Pennsylvania, moved down. Okay, all right, yeah, through the army and all that kind of stuff. Anyway, we land in Rosedale, and the house, I’d hear the house settle. What’s that was that my mother told me, get on the radio, turn on your radio. So I turn on the radio. I’d start with W, b, a, l, then I’d go to WBZ, then I’d go to k, m, O, x, then I’d go to W b, T, down in Charlotte. And I wanted to be in the box. I wanted to be in the box, sports or news didn’t matter. Just wanted to talk on the red box. Okay? And then, and then in fifth no when I went to Red House Run Elementary I never said a word, never raised my hand, always the nobody knew, except my closest friends and my family, what I sounded like. Mr. Copenhaver, my fifth grade teacher, were who we’re still friends with today. Mr. Copenhaver says Your assignment is going to be a speech. You have to give a speech. Or three minutes public speaking. And I went home that night and I told my mother, I’m dropping out a red house run. She goes, No, so you got to write about something, you know, and we’ll do it. Or else. She told me, No, it was a baseball. How a baseball is made, the stitches and the rawhide. So I go to you 10. Oh, I was about 10 years old, yeah. So I’m I’m looking Encyclopedia Britannica, how to make a baseball. And I swallow these index cards. And she says, start on the left, go to the center. Go to the right. Left center, right. Don’t look at any. Look over there. That’s good public speaking. Look into their eyes or get nervous. See the back of the room, right? So I can remember, like it. Friday comes, I go to Red House run, and I notice there’s nobody with the last name that begins with an A or a B, and guess who’s up first? Me, Costello. So I get up with my prop. I had a prop, a baseball in my hand. My hand is shaking. I’m gone. These kids have never heard me before. I go left. I go Senate. I go right. Three minutes later, I stop, and the whole class stands up and starts clapping for me. Oh, never shut the hell up. Since that started it. That was it. I got
8Nestor Aparicio 26:12
pure approval, not pressure approval.
Jamie Costello 26:15
So all of the parents who think that their kid is the shy one, hold on, hold on, I
Nestor Aparicio 26:21
was never the shy. I don’t have that story. But you know, so back to Sports Night, because I did want to give you this story. Since 1980 or 81 we went to Sports Night, and all the people are up on the days, there’s Danny Wright, there’s whoever the MC was might have been you, right? You could tell me whether you were the MC of this one, trying to remember now, no, somebody give you a name of someone that’s going to be a blast from the past for you. All right. All right. All these local people. Local people, yeah, and there was one person up there, an older man, and I didn’t know who he was. And they said, wait to welcome American League umpire, Nestor Shylock, I was there. You were there. Shy you were. There. He said, I have his autograph from that night. He signed my, my, my sports night program. I have Nestor Shylock, the only Nestor I’ve ever met other than Right, right? Me? Nestor, shylac. Nestor, shylac didn’t know who he was. Didn’t know you were the MC that night. Believe I was. There you go. That’s Nestor. See, took me 20 minutes remember that story, because I remember
Jamie Costello 27:23
8the guy sitting there, and I who an umpire, what I
Nestor Aparicio 27:27
got Nestor shylocks autograph that is great at and I looked it up online. It’s worth like, 12 bucks, I think, these days. But he was from Pennsylvania, and Sports Night was always like in the middle of winter. It was always like February, right? Right. Oh, my goodness. How about that? Our Lady of Fatima. There you have it. I was an altar boy. Jamie Costello was here. Oh, he’s forever an altar boy, Little Red Run, little red run, Red
Jamie Costello 27:51
House run. I was red house, Red House run. It’s a great name, though it’s great name. They tore it down and rebuilt it right there on the spot.
Nestor Aparicio 27:58
They tore mine down to Colgate Elementary my school was 100 years old man, and it’s all brand spanking new over in East Baltimore. Good for you. Cut the right path back to the future scratch. Also in the Maryland lottery. We have these to give away. We were at Cocos doing the Maryland crab cake tour, trying to get Jamie out. Get him out of his shell a little bit. Find that. So what is Costello. Me about it, what you’re doing.
8Jamie Costello 28:22
It’s Costello your story. And we’re just telling stories for companies that want to put stuff on their website. They want to promote what they’re doing. And we have gone to so many charitable events and we want and here’s the tape now, let’s roll it, and we’re like, then didn’t really hit them. So we want to tell the stories that make people reach Are you editing your own stuff? Yeah, we edit the own stuff. We shoot our own stuff, just like when you were a kid. Yeah. It’s just, I love it. It’s great. And we are we did a story. I can’t it’s a surprise for this person, and it’s incredible. I mean, this guy, I didn’t know him, and I met him, and I love the guy, and we had a, must have been 50 interviews supporting this gentleman, and we’re gonna have a big shindig for him, all right. Well, you’re gonna share it on your social, right, yeah, but it’s stuff like that, so we’re having good and my wife is been down on the shore doing stories about she just got hired to do a story on when you’re going down 50 and you take a look what goes on over there in that farm. Now we’re doing the love stories. And it’s, it’s catching on. It’s pretty neat driving
Nestor Aparicio 29:34
around doing the crab cake tour in August. Well, that is that the neatest part for me has been the unfold, not just to meeting people, because I said to Jen, I’m going to meet people that are I’m going to meet great people. Yeah, going around the state, I’ve done it in August the last couple years, driving from Oakland, Maryland through rocky gap and Cumberland to Antietam and Frederick and the wine fields out of big corpse and, you know, some. There in Maryland, down at St Mary’s, where Brandon Scott went to school. Crossing the bridge. We’ve all crossed the bridge and been on 50. I tell people now, get off 50 and go down to Blackwater if you’ve never done it. Go down to go down to who hoopers Island and get a crab cake down there at old salties. Go down to Chico team. Go you drive. Go south of Salisbury. Go down to Snow Hill. See that train track that runs on 13 down to Virginia, where that train track was built 200 years ago and and the road goes right by the whistle stops so. But the thing about August is it’s so beautiful the state, it’s lush. The rivers are running on the west. The mountains are lush. The beaches there, the Eastern Shore has the corn and the tobacco and the growth and the trees and the we have such a beautiful state. So that’s the part that I love, about getting out and talking to people and seeing the things you’re talking about. Doing stories. I
Jamie Costello 30:59
had to go up and cover a story two years ago up in Cecil County for the fair. The fair, what was the thing? The horse. The equestrian. Equestrian. Yeah, so I’m coming back, coming down the road, going through Galena, and I see this restaurant 20s. And I passed 20s like five times, and it’s packed like outside Galina.
Nestor Aparicio 31:20
8You mean little still, little beach town between Maryland and Delaware. Should speak city,
Jamie Costello 31:25
frass on the Sassafras. Go ahead. Okay, it’s packed. I’m going, what’s going on? So I go
Nestor Aparicio 31:31
in there. John Martin does this with the lotteries. We got a winner in Galena, Maryland. Like, I gotta look up Galena, make sure that I know I’m talking. Go ahead
Jamie Costello 31:38
and and they it was just great. You go in there, and it’s just like Coco’s here. Everybody’s friendly, you know, and if you and in the old days, if you couldn’t afford it, or if you were a
8Nestor Aparicio 31:50
first my my pal owned a home in Galena. It’s great. He owned a home on the water in Galena. And I know exactly what you’re talking about right there. I told you, it’s right between like, Chesapeake city, yeah, Chesapeake city and like and like on the way down to Chesterton. Yeah,
Jamie Costello 32:06
it’s unbelievable. Unbelievable Eastern Shore. I love it. I love the shore. I
Nestor Aparicio 32:11
am doing this summer instead of doing crab cakes. And it’s on crab cakes with on breweries, my 27th anniversary of NSD to summer 20 doing my 27 favorite things to eat in Baltimore, over 27 days. That’s great. So, I mean, you are a man about town. You eat places where, like, give me a little bit of your favorite stuff. Give me best of Jamie. I want some best of Jamie
Jamie Costello 32:37
8back then or now. Where you go? Give me some stuff that you love doing. I loved the Stewart Root Beer stand all roads your side of town. That was great house there’s when I was growing up. I
Nestor Aparicio 32:51
drove by there the other night, still housers to me strawberry pie.
Jamie Costello 32:54
Oh man, it was great. But now to this day, oh man, we go to the dude. NO NOT do Das. When I used to go to dudas, I love dudas. We down in Annapolis. You got doc Street. Doc Street is just incredible for shrimp and crab cakes, great and all of Annapolis mcgarvey’s. The best thing is when you go into Middleton’s nine o’clock Friday, Saturday night, go upstairs to the piano bar. I’m telling you, I’m coming down to Annapolis and party with you, big boy. I got a good story for that. Give me. Give me. If Jamie Costello has a story I want to hear. So we’re at the we’re at this fundraiser for a school. It’s called Indian Creek. So they invited us out to this new restaurant Annapolis, which isn’t new, but it’s remodeled and stuff, okay? And it used to be reardons, oh, sure, right, down on the square. Mike Reardon, sure, the basketball, right? So, Mike Reardon, you know, sold it and it went down, and so a well known doctor in town bought it, refurbished. It’s beautiful. Called it the pearl. The Pearl. All right, so I’m driving home that night with my wife and I go, You know what? Mike Reardon was traded from New York to Baltimore for Earl the pearl, for Earl the pearl Monroe. So there you go, old Mike reardon’s Place traded for the pearl. Now, the place that he used to own is called the Pearl.
Nestor Aparicio 34:18
I got Annapolis about that ready. This is going to be on my 27 favorite things involved. I say right now, straight up, I’m doing the show in August here with Marcella at Cocos. We’re going to do the coconut trip. Coconut Shrimp are one of my 27 I’ve already had it. I introduced my son to it. My son was here, so I gave him one, I gave him two, but, you know, I ate the other four I went down on apples last year. I did the oyster tour. Yeah, so I did, I did. I did 30 oyster 31 oysters in 31 days. Got 31 years on radio. Right? The oyster I had that’s going to make the list is at the Federal House in downtown Annapolis. Okay, so go to the Federal House. They. Have an oyster, crab ceviche. So what they do is they take the raw oyster pick as your head, and they put this crab ceviche, raw on top. Unbelievable, one of the best, one of the best things I’ve ever eaten in my life. So go get that. It’s their house special, trust me.
8Jamie Costello 35:19
Okay, you got to go to sailor oyster bar. Okay, Sailor oyster bar. Oh, my God, that’s great. The most, I would say the most underrated place is in Anne Arundel County. Is the point, the point in Arnold on the water, it is, I don’t think
Nestor Aparicio 35:36
I’ve ever been to Arnold. It is great. Don’t, don’t hold it against me. I don’t know that I’ve officially right
Jamie Costello 35:41
off of college Parkway. It is great. I’m telling you the point, that’s
Nestor Aparicio 35:45
8the thing for me. Like, in Annapolis, south of Annapolis, like, I haven’t explored enough. Oh, you got Edgewater down there. I’ve been there. They have a great crab cake place, water in Yes, right? So, like, I haven’t had it yet, but I know about it. But that part where, like, from there down to St Mary’s and Solomon’s, I’m a little bit of a tender foot to that. You know, I’ve done it once in my life. I mean, I just have never had a reason to go down there. Southern Maryland’s different, yeah, like, I don’t know that people have explored it, because it’s not on the way to Ocean City. You have to have a purpose to go right, right, unless you’re taking 301, to Richmond, right, right. But, I mean, when you move down there, I’m thinking, everything’s new when you’re a Rosedale guy,
Jamie Costello 36:28
some degree, that’s right, everything, yeah, yeah, but it’s, I
Nestor Aparicio 36:32
love it. Jamie Costello is here. He’s done with me. He’s never going to do any more media. This is the last meeting he’s ever going to do. You miss it at all?
Jamie Costello 36:40
Surprisingly, no, I miss the talk. I miss you. Missed this. I missed the digging of the story, the lady or Lady of Fatima, that kind of stuff. And Nestor Shylock, my gosh, you know, Mickey has invited me on his podcast. You were telling
8Nestor Aparicio 36:55
dude. John Allen, was there, Mickey, Mickey, where are you? I had you on my show. Why should me on your I said,
Jamie Costello 37:01
Mickey, I’m following Ed Hale, Jay, how about that? What’s he
Nestor Aparicio 37:05
working his way down to me? Seriously? Mick, you got John Allen before me? You got Jamie before me, who owned ale hail
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8Ed lately?
Nestor Aparicio 37:16
Now let’s go. Come on. Mick, it’s great, man. Hey. Mick, you cutting me out. I’m gonna give a hard time now. Now I owe him a call. I, you know, I returned his call because he called me a couple weeks ago. You know, there is something about this town and everybody knowing, everybody, every but nobody leaves, everybody, everybody stays. And even people like Viviano and Marty that come from other places, they come and they
Jamie Costello 37:37
don’t leave, the leave, they don’t think great, just like the Colts. I’ll never
Nestor Aparicio 37:40
know what that’s like. And I, you know, I often talk to people from out of town and say, Why here? You know what I mean, like, I love it here, because I’m from here. That’s a good point. That’s a good one. People settle here. It shows me I always have questions, just as a local guy, just always, I’m like, You marry into this? Was it a job? Like, Wait, was it the weather? Was it the humidity or the humility? I don’t know which one, when they Peter to humility.
8Jamie Costello 38:06
People used to come in new to channel two. I didn’t know this until it was pointed out to me, but they said we are a tough nut to crack because we’re so colloquial. We go to this place on Friday night, we go to this place on Saturday. And they’re like, what
Nestor Aparicio 38:20
everyone talks about, what high school you went to. I talked to you about what elementary school you were, right. They all know what high school you went, overly
Jamie Costello 38:26
man, come on Falcon. Yeah, all right, I’m a falcon. I
Nestor Aparicio 38:30
8thought you were, but I didn’t want to insult you. In case you went to curlier.
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Dave Johnson was my pitcher.
Nestor Aparicio 38:37
Was Ron Schultz, there now he came later. Ron Schultz, the athletic director. He was in over a little later on. Belinco
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was Ron Ronco.
8Nestor Aparicio 38:45
He ran Baltimore County. Ron bellingo, well, Ronnie was a good guy. He was your overly guy. And he lives down in Delaware. Now he’s retired. He and Jim Joe nestorman, they ran Baltimore County back when I was doing softball and doing all that stuff. Polinko
Jamie Costello 38:59
used to have a tan in January. Remember that he was golden?
Nestor Aparicio 39:03
Well, I probably won’t watch the Orioles. All right. You got any Orioles? I’ve waited to the end here because, as we tape this, banks don’t look good right now. This is not good. It’s been a tough season as
Jamie Costello 39:14
8my eight year old and I talk about it, we’re furious that they didn’t bring McCann back. Oh, really, that was your guy, heart and soul guy, McCann Santander, you you lose that part of the clubhouse. Man that you know, a Jackson struggling a little bit. Santander comes in. Can come to a Listen, buddy. I’ve been there before. Brings them up. Who is the leader of this team right now.
Nestor Aparicio 39:44
It’s almost like you listen to me and Luke this morning in the car, because I did the show in Atlanta last and I saw Pearl Jam in Atlanta before I flew home for this today, and Luke and I did a piece late on on Tuesday evening after the latest really awful loss. And we are asking the question about body language and about Mojo, and just sort of like they look defeated, and certainly did over the weekend against Detroit, Yankees beating their head in. They’ve had a couple of, really the Easter beat in, you know, with all with 24 runs all that, there’s a body language part. And we’re saying, where’s the leadership? And we started talking about great leaders of oral history, right? Rick Sutcliffe, you know, Kevin Millar got imported for that role. Adam Jones and Nelson Cruz 10 years ago, right? Even Buck being known as a leader of men, right? Pile divers and all that stuff that he talked about. I don’t know what Brandon Hyde is. I don’t these young people. I don’t know that there’s enough experience amongst the Adley. I mean, Adley rochman, the minute he came up, looked like he was going to be the pat on the butt kind of guy, and always going to be the one that everyone goes to when you’re hitting 208 people, don’t look to you. And Kyle Gibson, we were like, Kyle Gibson. Kyle Gibson. He comes in awful, the home runs on Tuesday night, all that. But Luke, on Monday after the victory, says, Hey, Kyle Gibson’s coming in. Maybe this will be the that thing you’re talking about. I brought McCann up, and you know what Luke said, flippantly? Well, he was here at the end of last year, and they didn’t, you know, last, second half of last year, him getting the ball in the face and all that, like they didn’t play good baseball at the end of the year. He wasn’t a productive player. And I said the same thing. You said, I’m like, he’s a backup catcher. He’s not $8 million a year like Sanchez. And he felt to me like part of the furniture in the way that when you pull Santander out, you’re like, hey, what’s missing? Oh, the 100 million dollar player that Toronto found value in that we didn’t in the same way. When Nelson Cruz went away, there was a wayward thing that happened to scope Bucha disappeared, then the whole thing went into the can. I’m wondering where this is, because this is really Jamie. I’ve been doing this 35 years, right? I’ve been through Camden Yards getting built the strike. Ripken, 2131 Davy Johnson’s not the manager. Davy Johnson is the manager. We’re in the playoffs. Davey Johnson’s not the manager. Ray Miller’s the manager. Angelo screwed it off me. I’m giving you the whole oral history 30 seconds. But like, I’ve been through all of this, I don’t recognize this. I don’t recognize we’re gonna tank for five years. Call it rebuilding, bring it in. The owner’s gonna die, the kid’s gonna go away, the new guy’s gonna come in. He’s loaded with money. We’re loaded with talent, and the team’s gonna be awful this year. I mean, they’re gonna be they don’t have anything to do to fix the pitching. And I’m thinking to myself, this level of expectation from our fans that we never had because Angelo zone, the team. There was never any expectation the way this has been built over the last 18 months, 24 months from Hey, we’re really good. Angelos is going to die. John’s going to sell the team. They’re not going to move to Nashville. We’re going to have a new owner. We have all of these blossoming superstars, and the team’s going to stink. We didn’t spend any time preparing mentally right for this kind of a step backward, 101
Jamie Costello 43:05
wins two years ago. Are we rebuilding again? Because there’s but it’s not clear
Nestor Aparicio 43:12
who’s come under one. Doesn’t mean we’re due for 100 for the next year and under 10 next year, but it
8Jamie Costello 43:17
means like that, pitching, pitching, man, well, Elias
Nestor Aparicio 43:21
hasn’t drafted a pitcher that has thrown a pitch in the big leagues until this week, Brandon young, it was the first one, right, right? That’s kind of hard to do seven years of scouting and not getting a pitcher to the hill, and that speaks to the way they Yeah, they drafted, they drafted hitters, hitters, hitters, hitters, hitters, right?
Jamie Costello 43:41
But we want that guy, that 21 year old phenom, that 45,000 people walk up to see
Nestor Aparicio 43:46
8that, right? Jackson holiday, Gunner, Henderson, Adley, we got three of those, right, a picture, except it happened. Remember,
Jamie Costello 43:52
we had who was the lefty, the 19 year old lefty we brought up. Remember the Adam low Matt, Matt, Matt, Matt Ryan. Matt Ryan, remember that, that? And then Cindy Riley, and then Sydney ponson. And as BJ, Ryan was the last DJ, right? We bring him up, Grayson Rodriguez, will we see him this year?
Nestor Aparicio 44:11
Well, this thing with the arm injuries, I mean, your kids are playing Little League, Jay, you know, like this, this Tommy John thing.
Jamie Costello 44:17
It’s like, every day I see it, I L, I L, my wife
8Nestor Aparicio 44:21
works with a guy whose kid can play ball. Little more advanced version of your Yeah. How old are your kids? Eight? Yeah. All right, so like eight, this 17, Tommy John surgery. 1617, year old kids getting Tommy John surgery. And I’m thinking to myself, not my kid. I hope it’s not your kid. No, I hope like that’s getting normalized, yeah, in baseball, but
Jamie Costello 44:42
some do it before they even get hurt. Some do it just to, just to make sure that they don’t lose a year.
Nestor Aparicio 44:49
It’s not tonsils. You know what? I mean? You know it’s not tonsils. And
Jamie Costello 44:54
8Right, right. Look at the Dodgers. Look at all their injuries. Suddenly they’re looking at, look at all the money
Nestor Aparicio 44:59
they’re spending. I just want the Orioles to be what you and I know they can be, man, and we’ve waited a long, long, long time, you know, we’re seeing you out in Kansas City at the playoff games 10 years ago, I remember sitting, I was sat with you. We needed was in the press box. We
Jamie Costello 45:13
didn’t get the runs to 121,
Nestor Aparicio 45:18
no. But you get close like that when you’re in an American League Championship Series. I mean, that’s as good as it gets, right? I mean, Doman young moment, all that stuff, it was great. And to feel like that’s 11 years out, and we had this feeling the last couple years that were close, and now, as we wake up here, and it’s not even may yet, will be May by the time of year, this the feeling of this season being not just a little wayward, it feels really lost in a weird way, and it’s so early and it’s so hard, because it’s the first time since I was 25 that I think fans really have hope. They did, you know, I mean, like we really haven’t had a lot of hope around
8Jamie Costello 45:54
here. Well, we can turn it around. I remember Earl’s teams. Remember we used to get off the horrendous starts in April, and all of a sudden we’d win.
Nestor Aparicio 46:02
Earl had pitching dude 20. Earl had Flanagan McGregor Palmer. You know, Dennis Martinez on a bad day. Unbelievable. Dobson quay. Are McNally. Come on, Palmer, son of a Palmer, something, didn’t he? I love him. Love he’s the greatest Oriole ever, and he’s there and now he’s, you know, my wife’s like, how old is he’s gonna be 80. He’s gonna be 80. He’s gonna be 80. And, like, how many games you want him to do? All of them except the one Ben’s doing. I like, Ben, Ben is good. But the Palmer thing, and the fact that Brooks has left us, Johnny has left us right. Palmer is this Palmer’s living legend, you’re right, and for to have him in the booth every night. And you know, I don’t talk to never done my show in 35 years. Jim’s not a big fan of me or mine, or I don’t know why, but I mean, I love Jim. I’ve always loved Jim. I there is something about him still doing the games. That gives me this, it’s comfort, yeah? It gives me that I feel like Brooks is still there, yeah, you know, right? And I want them to win for him. I want them to win for Clancy. You know what I mean? I want them to win for those people, not for me. I want them to win for the
Jamie Costello 47:18
people. What it’s like to be around here in October? Oh, it’s great.
Nestor Aparicio 47:24
8I remember 83 though you and Lisa. Oh, yeah, we have you old enough.
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That was good. Jamie
Nestor Aparicio 47:28
Costello is here. He is costelloing us about all sorts of things. Any other stories you’re working on that do you want to play with
Jamie Costello 47:35
everyday stories about every every human possible, anybody that moves will do a story on you. What’s your favorite story to do? Somebody who’s overcome something that is never saw coming and all of a sudden, man like Marcus Moore. Marcus Moore,
8Nestor Aparicio 47:51
okay, go ahead, let’s talk about Marcus because he’s one of my favorite people in the city. I saw the Orioles honor to him. I saw that dingbat that that the dingbat appointed about autism and kids with autism can’t contribute. Well, Marcus Moore thinks RFK is a clown, and so do I, but go ahead. Hey,
Jamie Costello 48:09
Marcus. You know, I met Marcus years ago. What are you doing? Because my mother and I went to my mom and dad said, I have nothing. I’m gonna be 30, which he’s a couple years later, I’m going to be 30. I have no friends. I’m a stock stock guy at the local grocery store. And they took a pretzel and they smothered it with Old Bay. They took a pretzel and they smothered with cinnamon, and they put it in a pack, in a package. They pulled it Moore’s crunch, and he started selling it at a local market. I think Fells Point market was the first one. Crofton, another one. And it’s delicious. He lives right off of 50 in Annapolis, right near me, and all of a sudden, boom, he’s everywhere. He’s selling a grout. Hersh, backs. Gersh backs. I mean, the kid is just her spec. You got baseball in mind? Yeah, right. I’m sorry, where was? Well, I love by the way, if you don’t know Marcus Moore is Google him. If you saw the young man throwing out the first pitch at Orio Park last week,
Nestor Aparicio 49:07
my phone’s dead already. Look at it. It’s dead. He just text me just a while ago. He’s just, I want to have him on the show. You got it? I’ll get you please. Can you organize that will do? Because I see him around town all the time. He’s always smiling. He’s always happy. Yeah, he has a beautiful
Jamie Costello 49:23
8soul. His mama is Kathy, and she’s known as mama crunch, and Dad is papa crunch. Well, I
Nestor Aparicio 49:30
won’t have them on too, okay? I won’t have the whole family. I will get out the whole stinking more family. I want more and more, and I want more, more, more. That’s a song, yeah, we got more with Jamie Costello. We’re out here at Cocos. We’re just, like, catching up. I don’t even know, like, I don’t I know it’s nothing. Is there an audience? I could talk politics with you, sports with you, but I love talking Baltimore. We’re
Jamie Costello 49:53
just, all of a sudden, it’s the two of us. If anybody missed
Nestor Aparicio 49:57
the first five minutes of this, we did is. On Bel Air road, or is it on Harford road? And we pronounce right, Blair Road, Blair we’re not on Blair road. We’re on Harford Road, Blair road. I was overdue park the other day.
850:07
Yeah, Drew. Have
Nestor Aparicio 50:09
you been to the zoo? Lights? Zoo illumination? No, ah, when I can Costello.
Jamie Costello 50:16
Costello, the zoo. What was that thing? Zoo? Me.
Nestor Aparicio 50:20
8Rang the zoo. That was, they’re redoing Zoomerang. Zoom rings, coming back. Was one of the greatest parties black tie. Bobby Nick, DJ did every year. Bobby Nick, God bless Bob late, great. Bobby Nick,
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you’re bringing a man that’s great.
Nestor Aparicio 50:35
I’m trying. Man, you started me on Bel Air road. So I had a Mike Evans on two weeks ago, we did the crab cake tour down at fatales, and I had a last minute cancelation, and I reached Kirby and Shannon over at the zoo. I’m like, Hey, come down. Do some zoo talk. We’ve had a baby giraffe. And they’re like, No, we got this illumination thing. We got to come down. I’m like, What’s the luminous zoom, zoom, zoom. This Chinese art, like, if you ever seen the Chinese New Year, the floats that they have with the animals and stuff, it’s, it’s like the floats, but they’re animals, tigers, lions and tigers and bears. Oh my. They have it all illuminated. And you go at night. So you go five, 536, o’clock, it opens. You go over. You have one of the zoo, but the animals were asleep. A lot of the animals were asleep, a few of the animals around the show. But do you remember the old Zoo? Of course you do. They had those inhumane cages in the front the old cages. They did away with all of that in the modern era, but they didn’t get rid of the cages. And the zoo was kind of like they made a new entrance, and they kind of hit it a little bit. They didn’t know what to do with it. They’ve used that part, and they’ve earmarked, with Kirby’s budget, all the new things they’re doing over there to the polar bear exhibit that used to be that as you and I remember as kids who took pictures there, they’re now doing different things with all those spaces. But at night all this spring, there illumine it’s called Night illuminations. My wife and I did it. How long does this go on? All spring? It started about two weeks ago. It’s at night. Google it. Go to marylandzoo.org, and you’ll learn about it. Yeah, but your kids will love it. Love it. It’s night time, so you want to get over there on a night, 80 degree night. Okay? Oh my god, the zoo’s quiet. Okay? They have music playing beautiful, like new age music. You go get a beer. But my son and his wife and my wife all got on. Even the swing sets and stuff are illuminated. So everything is it’s like light city, okay, except you can ride on it, touch it, take pictures of it. That’s great. They have like this falling rain colored gazebo you walk through. It’s lovely. Love it. We have such amazing Don
Jamie Costello 52:52
Hutch Don Hutchinson. Don Hutchinson, save that Baltimore
8Nestor Aparicio 52:55
after you say, Baltimore County, yeah, right,
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right. But
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the zoo is thriving and great. It’s beautiful. Penguins are great. They have this beautiful snow leopard over there. So I’m giving you a little Costello. Me. It’s not a story until you tell
Jamie Costello 53:10
8it. Okay, I love it, baby. Yeah, it’s fair. All right, you’re
Nestor Aparicio 53:15
done. You retired. You want to be retired again? Yeah? I’m gonna get your crab cake you out of here. You got, you got children? Yeah, eight, eight year olds. What do you love it? Love it, t8 years you pitch it to
Jamie Costello 53:25
him. No, we, we got a 1t baller. My youngest is a T baller. And then the eight year old, that’s kid pitch.
Nestor Aparicio 53:35
I had a Swedish girlfriend, like 25 years ago, and I was in New York City, and she didn’t know anything about baseball, and I took her to a Yankee red so I mean a real Yankee, I mean, like a Clemens Pedro kind of game. Okay, so we’re Yankee Stadium, and I have this beautiful Swedish girlfriend. She’s beautiful girl. She’s great girl. Knew nothing about baseball, but she’d never been to a baseball game, so I’m taking her to Yankee Stadium, and I’m trying to explain baseball, and her English is impeccable. It wasn’t an English issue, it was a that’s a ball, that’s a strike. In her mind, ball, a ball is like an object, right? Not a thing. Strike is like, like, is that like bowling? Bowling? I’m like, no, just, how the hell with it? Yeah, just get your beards. You just, I don’t want to explain it to you. I don’t know when my grandkids come along or that I would have to explain the only time in my adulthood I’ve ever tried to explain baseball to a human I’ve never had to explain it to anyone, because anyone in this culture would be too embarrassed to ask me to explain it to them, or they just it’s osmosis, right? So when you have a child and you’re trying to teach a child baseball, not just your own child that may or may not be home with daddy watching ball games every night, but somebody just brings their child and they don’t know the rules, and they run the third base, and they tell me about teaching young children baseball, because it’s something I don’t know that I could
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ever do. They don’t. Even know what, what hand they’re supposed to put the glove on. They don’t know what the hand, the top hand goes so anyway, different level of patience that maybe I had you. So then it’s like, yeah, you got it. So the other night, we’re, we’re working on a force play ground ball to short Where are you gonna go? Second, second, eight year olds. And then we’re trying to come up, coach, yo. Some are, yeah, and then. And the other thing is, I have a problem. Some of the kids are going to hit. They’re going to get hit. So should I tell them right now to turn in, don’t turn out. But then, if you do that, then it’s on their minds throwing curveballs, but one of the parents said last night, you ought to work on cutoffs. Oh, my God. I’m
Nestor Aparicio 55:47
just trying to get him to figure out where first base is right exactly, and the run can’t
Jamie Costello 55:50
do it, so you got to really scale it back at first. You know, you’re out there going, Okay, we’re going to do this. Oh, spacey
Nestor Aparicio 55:56
8stuff, like three strikes, four balls, three outs. What’s an inning? Where’s first base at eight, you’re playing the game. Why does a second baseman not stand on second base? Why is he between for what is a short stop? Yeah, which we which ways left field and right field? I know my left from my right lefty. Alright, left field, right. Like you’re, you know, you’re just trying right and then, like, squeeze the squeeze the ball. Two hands on, two hands, right, right. Just, am I doing? All right, you’re right. I’m just trying to think, if you’ve left me with your kid, and your kid didn’t know anything about baseball the glove, we’re just trying to think about, where do I start? Below your belt. It’s step and throw. Let’s play catch. Play catch, as simple as that, how to catch, how to throw its its fundamentals, baby, fundamentals. I’m not cut out to have patience. Jamie, I’m not a patient. Man, they didn’t teach me that. Well,
Jamie Costello 56:50
it’s funny, I got a guy, another coach behind me, and I’ll say somebody will make an error or something, and I’ll turn to Him, and I’ll drop some don’t talk like or a weaver. Oh no, I’m not an attorney. Great, great job out there. So he’s like, my sounding board. Hey, great job out there. So he’s feed like Sierra. Now he’s like, helping me. Yeah, he’s helping. Have you ever coached kids before? Oh yeah, yeah. I used to do Lutherville, Timonium, Harford Park. I’ve been doing it for 30 years without children, or children, which older your oldest kids? Mike powers, remember Mike power? Mike used to be an attorney with the he’s down in Florida. So we used to coach softball together, girls, girls. And he got me in, and I just started girls. And then we went to Harford Park, Lutherville, Timonium. Let’s see where else that was fun. You
Nestor Aparicio 57:42
know, my dad was a community leader. My dad was the guy with the clicker in his pocket, the umpire. But we always had all the equipment in our shed in Dundalk, all the batting helmets, all the balls, all the bats. My dad was that guy, right? Yeah. So my dad loved kids. My dad loved baseball. My dad loved coaching. My dad lost his son tragically in 1969 was 11 years old, your age, my older brother was, would have been your age. Yeah, so, but he died in 1969 so my dad took to the community, took the kids and coaching. I’ve coached two teams in my life, other than the W, N, S, T, employee of brigade, but I coached two, two teams. My dad took a little league team in Eastwood, and I was still like a kid. I was the assistant. You know what? I mean, my dad wanted it was something to give me and my dad, something to do is he got older in life. Is in the 80s, we coach one team. I still have couple of those kids or listeners of mine, see, and they’re not kids. They’re three years younger than me. They you know, it was sort of like I was like a junior coach of the team. And then I coach one basketball team in my life, and I did it in Rosedale. How about that golden ring? Yes, I did all right, I did it your gym. Oh, this is gonna be even better. You ready? My goodness. So golden ring middle. I told this story three weeks ago because I this is, I welled up telling the story three weeks ago. So I’m gonna try to tell it without being we now go. So I drank a lot of beer in the 80s. We all did. I had a house on Kane Street, and my best friend in the world was a guy named Michael fountain, who’s disappeared, but I love you, fountain. Hope you’re listening to Depeche Mode somewhere or sting something, good. Fountain came. We used to throw these parties on cane Street. We drink. We’re 21 years old. 2021 in that range, we threw these parties. Girls would come the music. The whole thing is the 80s. And fountain came to me one day. He said, Hey, I’m coaching a basketball team. You’re gonna have to help me. I’m like, what? And he was from chesico. He was okay. He grew up right across in the western auto right, all right, right across West Rock. So right down the road from Little Red, red house. So he said, We’re gonna coach his team. I’m like, All right, fountain, I don’t really want to coach. What are we coaching? He said, Well, it’s a Saturday morning link. I’m like, Dude, I don’t get out of bed till Saturday afternoon. Now it was Saturday morning week, and he said, we’re gonna do this over golden ring middle. I’m like, All right, man, dude, I’ll do it. What time 8am I. We didn’t go to bed, though. Five most weekends, we would stop at the McDonald’s route 40 in front of the hechingers. You know what I’m talking about, golden ring mall, right? Yeah. We’d stop there and get a big breakfast, or a sausage, muffled wood egg. And I, I cut through them all, you know, through the other side. Make the left go up seven, and we go into your your middle school gym at Golden Ring middle and you could see your breath because it was October, November 7. Okay, this is 745, in the morning. Yeah, on a Saturday morning, bilinco wasn’t heating the gyms in Baltimore County back then. Okay, so we were, we got the first pick in the draft, so we picked the kid who was the best player. You know, 5060, kids running around. We’re watching them all like that kid’s that kid’s ambidextrous. We want that kid. So he picked that kid, and he winds up being the kid that I coach. And 15 years later, that kid shows up in my radio station, 2002 I coach him in 1989 2002 he shows up in my radio station with Kirk Lee, and he says to me, Mr. Nestor, do you remember me? Man, Beano Beno ranso, you coached me when I was a boy, you coached me. I said, Dude, I coach one team in my life. He’s like, I was your player. Left hand. I looked at him, and he was like, his little boy face, his man, face. Beano ranso went on to coach at Xavier, 11 year Maryland assistant, yeah, and he was last seen in DePaul, and I ran into him on opening day on a club love with Brian COVID. I got a picture with Brian Sabino, came out and did the show two weeks ago. My only coaching in my life that I ever did, and was in your gym, and I coached a kid that’s been a lifer coach, and I made me cry to tell him that two weeks ago, cost us one of that show, but he came in and did the show. So there’s a connection. How about Baltimore? It was middle school. That is crazy, and I’m not a coach. Oh, man, you got to it is
Jamie Costello 1:01:56
everything I live for. I love it. I know you do. I love it. That’s the only thing. That’s one of the reasons I got out of TV, because you can start in March with a kid, and by June, that kid is excelling. He’s seeing success. He’s making teammates. He’s got friends for the rest of his life. I’m not looking for you to go to Calvert hall or Loyola or curly I’m looking to you to play again next year and get better, and then we’ll see where it goes. I’ll give you a story. Mark amatucci, the touch son is Michael, and Mark said I want him to play for you. I thought that
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was a big Yeah. And
Jamie Costello 1:02:42
I remember going to the game coaching, and Mark would sit out in deep left field. And I said, Why are you sitting with because I had cranky. I had the parents a whole, you know, all winner for coaching basketball. So Michael would start, and he get a hit, and he wouldn’t stop at first. He’d go first, second, third, Michael. Michael got to go back, take him out. Michael is now a coach at Calvert Hall playing baseball, and he’s also a coach at Hood. Those are the kind of stories I get a call the other day. Greg Carpenter, his good man, son, his his nephew, Brad, who used to be a ball boy at Orio park down the line. Brad played with me greatest starting pitcher I’ve ever had. And Brad just had a baby, and it’s just keep these people your whole life. Those people are in my life forever. I just love them. And we’re starting out today, another kid, I just named him to the All Star game, and he wasn’t. He’s not an all star, but I named him to the Austin I got two more story. You got time for two? Real quick, all day for you, bro, here we go. I feel like Viviana now with also I got Howard perlo coming sometime, but I haven’t seen him yet. To go, the mother just sends me a text this morning. Are you sure that my son? Are you sure you have the right son? I said, yeah, he’s worked his butt off. He deserves to be an all star once in his life, and that’s just going to do it. Okay, back in Luther real Timonium, there’s a guy by the name of Dave Thomas. Dave Thomas was a coach, and we were selecting an all star team. Dave Thomas brings this kid to the to the field. It was at Ridgeley, Ridgely Ridgely, elementary the fields over there brings this kid, changes his pants, puts his shirt on him, makes sure the gloves on, puts a hat on, ties in the belt, takes him out the right takes him out the right field. The kid is autistic. He knows my dave thomas knows that this kid will never make an all star game, but for this day, he made the all star team. Nobody knew what his name was, and all of a sudden, everybody knew what his name was. Make him feel 100. That’s all. Is why you do it.
Nestor Aparicio 1:04:57
Well. I mean, that’s what sports was supposed to be when. Yeah, right, right. Once my I’ve been sitting here all day, my son and I were here set up equipment. I’m watching the NBA, and I’m watching the father of one of the guys, what kind of circus? So we want to get on the floor. You mentioned, like, amatucci, is dad out in the outfield, just to leave you alone? Because, like, but I see the worst parts of youth sports, right? Like, that’s the part that you see, right? Of course, nasty stuff going on, put on every the bad news, bear stuff, right? Yeah. But on every field my father was ever on, it was like, we taught sportsmanship, we taught teamwork, we taught sharing, right? We taught feeling good about our so we taught winning, we taught losing, we taught shaking hands afterward. These were the things that if you when you’re coaching eight, nine year olds, that is the beauty of I would way prefer to do that than go fight with Katie Griggs about a press pass with these billionaires. You know? I mean, like there is a point where that is the joy, that is the juice,
Jamie Costello 1:05:57
8right? Believable, if they can get along on the field, then they can get along in the office. So that’s what we’re trying to push. You got to come
Nestor Aparicio 1:06:04
back through the show a little bit more. It’s great. Give me some more. Costello, me you’ve been here so long. I didn’t get your crab melt. I didn’t get your crab. All right, that’s good. Michael, send your wife home with some den. Dan, what am I doing here? I hope. Okay, better. Okay, I got dinner tonight. All right. Well, I can’t. Here’s a problem with a crab cake tour, we start eating crab cakes, and we don’t talking. So we’ll do the crab cakes afterwards, including a beer, because it’s on special here. Orioles are on special here as well. We’re Cocos. It’s all brought to you by our friends at the barrel of lottery. Have the back, back to the I keep want to call them back to school, and I feel like doing a triple in with Rodney. There is some comedy in the show. Back to the Future. Scratch us. We will also have these at red brick station in White Marsh, making our debut there. Now my debut for being there, but my show debut there. Next week, we’re here at Cocos this afternoon, having crab cakes, enjoying the coconut shrimp, encouraging folks to carry out stop by mother’s days around the corner, Marcellus nuts over here, because they got the Morgan State graduation coming. That’s why I’m here in April. The next couple weeks, they get a little packed in here to order your crab cakes. You can ship them out of here. They’ll even ship them to Annapolis to come up here and Door Dash the band, the myth, the legend. Jamie Costello is still costelloing Some stories out in the local marketplace. You can check, where do people find those
Jamie Costello 1:07:21
online? Costello, your story.com. How about that? Just find me. I’m Costello. Your story.com. You got it
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all right. Why Costello this story, and I’m gonna Costello of the big Maryland party. Howard perlo is gonna join us later on. Our SIG is coming by. Oh, is he what we seek. Lives in the neighborhood. Okay? He’s my co host with a K, okay, he’s been buying about an hour. So we’re single here. I’m worried about resig with the Orioles, because he’s, he’s, he’s true orange and black, and he tough. He’s gonna come in his little arm.
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I fell for Kyle Gibson last. Kyle’s a great guy, but
Nestor Aparicio 1:07:57
dog gone, I’m a great guy, but I can’t get you out. I can’t get the Yankees out. You
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can give up four home runs.
Nestor Aparicio 1:08:03
Maybe they would have popped up, yeah, maybe they would have missed ground ball. Maybe this my change up, which is all yacht, yeah, I only have a change. You didn’t know that until you threw it. Yeah, I got one pitch. Good change up, you know, and underhanded, yeah, right, right, right. He will pitch you. Costello, your story. Make sure you checking him out. We’re back for more. We’re Cocos. I’m Nestor. We are the W, N, S, T, group of fun. I’ve been trying to get this guy on for a long time now, you know it’s good. I love you, Jamie. You know that. Love you back for more. You.
