The Cleveland radio guys asked what I really think about the Jesse Minter hire…

The guys at WHBC in Ohio found Nestor Aparicio in his favorite state of “guest” vs. “host” and asked everything you want to know about his thoughts on the hiring of Jesse Minter as the new head coach of the Baltimore Ravens. He also got in a few cheap shots on the Cleveland Browns during this Super Bowl XXXV 25th anniversary celebration week in the Charm City.

The Kenny and JT Show discussed the recent coaching changes in the NFL, focusing on Jesse Minter’s appointment as the new head coach of the Baltimore Ravens. Nestor Aparicio, a Baltimore Ravens beat reporter, highlighted Minter’s connections to John Harbaugh and his background with the team. The conversation also covered the importance of finding an offensive coordinator for Lamar Jackson and the potential impact of Minter’s hiring on the team’s dynamics. Additionally, they touched on John Harbaugh’s decision to join the New York Giants and the challenges of coaching in Cleveland.

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Jesse Minter’s Appointment as Baltimore Ravens Head Coach

• Kenny Roda and JT discuss the recent coaching changes in the NFL, including Kevin Stefanski to the Atlanta Falcons and Jeff Hafley to the Dolphins.
• Nestor Aparicio, a Baltimore Ravens beat reporter, joins the show to discuss Jesse Minter’s appointment as the new head coach.
• Nestor explains the initial reaction in Baltimore, noting the timing of press releases and the focus on whether the Ravens wanted a culture shock or something different.
• Nestor compares the Ravens’ situation to the Cleveland Browns, highlighting the changes in coaching and player selection under new management.

Jesse Minter’s Background and Connections

• Nestor details Jesse Minter’s background, including his connections to John Harbaugh and his father, Rick Minter, who was a longtime Cincinnati coach.
• Jesse Minter has worked with notable figures like Mike Tomlin and Wink Martindale, who have played significant roles in his development.
• Nestor mentions the involvement of other Baltimore-tied coaches like Anthony Weaver and Jim Schwartz in the hiring process.
• The discussion touches on the importance of maintaining the Ravens’ system and the potential impact of Jesse Minter’s appointment on the team’s future.

Jesse Minter’s Role and the Importance of an Offensive Coordinator

• JT and Nestor discuss the importance of Jesse Minter’s role in running the offense and mentoring the head coach.
• Nestor speculates on the potential candidates for the offensive coordinator position, including Cliff Kingsbury and Jim Schwartz.
• The conversation highlights the need for a strong offensive coordinator to ensure Lamar Jackson’s success and the team’s overall performance.
• Nestor emphasizes the importance of finding the right balance between offensive and defensive strategies to support Lamar Jackson.

John Harbaugh’s Decision to Join the Giants

• JT asks Nestor about John Harbaugh’s decision to join the Giants and whether he should have waited for the Buffalo job to open up.
• Nestor explains that the Buffalo job didn’t seem as appealing and that John Harbaugh’s decision was influenced by the ownership situation in Cleveland.
• Nestor shares his thoughts on the Browns’ ownership and the challenges they face in attracting top coaches like John Harbaugh.
• The discussion includes the potential impact of ownership on a coach’s decision to join a team and the importance of a supportive environment.

Potential Candidates and the Future of the Ravens

• Kenny Roda inquires about the runner-up to Jesse Minter and the potential candidates for the head coaching position.
• Nestor mentions Joe Kelly and Anthony Weaver as possible candidates, along with other coaches who were interviewed.
• The conversation touches on the importance of finding a coach who fits well with the existing team dynamics and the Ravens’ system.
• Nestor discusses the potential impact of the new coach on the team’s performance and the importance of maintaining a strong coaching staff.

Rex Ryan’s Future and the Ravens’ Coaching Dynamics

• JT asks Nestor about Rex Ryan’s future as a head coach and his potential role with the Ravens.
• Nestor expresses his fondness for Rex Ryan but doubts that John Harbaugh would bring him into the coaching staff.
• The discussion highlights the trust dynamics within the Ravens’ coaching staff and the importance of having a cohesive team.
• Nestor shares his insights on the paranoia and militarized approach of some coaches, particularly John Harbaugh, and its impact on team management.

The Importance of Lamar Jackson’s Happiness

• Nestor emphasizes the importance of Lamar Jackson’s happiness and satisfaction with the new coaching staff.
• The conversation touches on Lamar’s past conflicts with John Harbaugh and the potential impact on his future with the Ravens.
• Nestor discusses the financial implications of Lamar’s contract and the need for a mutually beneficial agreement.
• The discussion highlights the potential challenges and opportunities for the Ravens in maintaining Lamar’s motivation and performance.

The Role of Ownership and Management in Coaching Decisions

• Nestor discusses the role of ownership and management in coaching decisions and the impact on team performance.
• The conversation highlights the differences in ownership styles and their influence on coaching choices and team dynamics.
• Nestor shares his experiences with various NFL teams and the importance of having supportive and trustworthy ownership.
• The discussion touches on the challenges of working with paranoid and militarized coaches and the need for a balanced approach to management.

The Impact of Coaching Changes on Team Performance

• Nestor and JT discuss the potential impact of coaching changes on the Ravens’ performance and the importance of maintaining a strong team.
• The conversation highlights the need for a cohesive coaching staff and the potential challenges of integrating new coaches into the team.
• Nestor shares his insights on the importance of trust and communication within the coaching staff and the impact on team performance.
• The discussion touches on the potential benefits and drawbacks of coaching changes and the need for a strategic approach to management.

Final Thoughts and Future Prospects

• Nestor and JT share their final thoughts on the Ravens’ coaching changes and the future prospects of the team.
• The conversation highlights the importance of finding the right balance between offensive and defensive strategies and the need for a strong coaching staff.
• Nestor emphasizes the importance of maintaining trust and communication within the coaching staff and the impact on team performance.
• The discussion touches on the potential challenges and opportunities for the Ravens in the upcoming season and the importance of a strategic approach to management.

SUMMARY KEYWORDS

Baltimore Ravens, Jesse Minter, John Harbaugh, Lamar Jackson, offensive coordinator, coaching staff, NFL hiring, Cleveland Browns, Kevin Stefanski, Anthony Weaver, Jim Schwartz, Rex Ryan, ownership issues, defensive coordinator.

SPEAKERS

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Speaker 1, Kenny Roda, JT, Nestor Aparicio

Kenny Roda  00:06

continues for the Cleveland Browns next head coach, their former coach, already has a job. Kevin Stefanski got hired quickly. John Harbaugh to the Giants first, Kevin Stefanski to the Atlanta Falcons second. And then it was, let’s see Jeff hafley to the dolphins, Robert Salah to the Titans, and Jesse Minter, who turned down the brown second interview, takes the job in Baltimore with the ravens to replace John Harbaugh to talk about that right now on the Kenny and JT Show, let’s go to the hotline from W, N, S T in Baltimore. He is a Baltimore Ravens beat reporter for many, many years. Nestor Aparicio joining us on The Kenny and JT Show again. Nestor, how are you?

Nestor Aparicio  00:50

Your audience knows I’m an offbeat reporter. Actually,

Kenny Roda  00:54

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you know what that is, a fair assessment of you very, very well. Put on that, my friend. Last time we talked, they had just fired John Harbaugh, and we were wondering who the next head coach was going to be. And ironically, it’s a kid that Harbaugh hired a while back, and now we’ll replace him in Jesse Minter, what was the initial reaction in Baltimore? Nestor, oh,

Nestor Aparicio  01:16

my initial reaction is they like to have press, you know, releases at 505. You know, on nights are kind of like as a five o’clock news thing, which is all the way all their news seems to break. And you know, we jumped on the line right away and talked about it just as very from the hardball tree. And you’re wondering what the Ravens were going to do, what their focus was going to be, whether they really wanted a culture shock, whether they wanted something different, something different from Lamar, something different inside the walls of the building. And you guys are in Cleveland, and you know all about that. I mean, honestly, from the minute Ozzy came to the old building, nothing you know football wise, in regard to how they pick players between him and Eric, the cost is ever changed, and that’s the thing that the shot he likes the most. And we are dealing with billionaires. You have your own knucklehead there, and we have our own, you know, good fellows. Guy here who came in, you know, guns a blazing last week to the press conference and told Lamar to get his ass to Florida to help pick a coach from Florida, or whatever it was. Just so at the end of the day with this, the fancy doubled his money, right? He ain’t got more guaranteed years Harbaugh Hall went to the Giants, double his money, got more. So, you know, there’s a little, I think solace will get paid from the Jets, probably, right? So, you know, Jimmy Schwartz is another guy that was involved where you are, and Nate shiel house coming in. And, I mean, there were a lot of people that the ravens and shorts worked in Baltimore. Anthony Weaver worked in Baltimore for a long time, but wasn’t really a hardball guy. Was more of an Ozzie Eric when he was drafted during the Billick administration, right? So there are guys with Baltimore ties that were involved in this thing, none stronger than Jesse Minter. In regard to, let’s go backwards here, because this involves Ohio. Quite frankly, Rick Minter was the longtime Cincinnati coach at the turn of the century. He was John Harbaugh’s sponsor. He was also Rex Ryan served on his staff, and his son was Jesse Minter. By the way, Mike Tomlin served on that staff. Mike Tomlin has known Jesse Minter since he was 14 years old, having worked for Jesse Minters father. So there’s a whole thing going on here with Jesse Minter in the hardball trip.

JT  03:27

He’s got a nice train. He’s got a like, you know, I mean, every every stop that he’s made, whether it’s Notre Dame, all the way to Michigan, he’s actually been pretty decent, in my opinion. He’s 42 years old. You look at this guy and you wonder, okay, everybody in the league is telling you we want a new, young, up and coming, offensive minded coach, and yet the Baltimore Ravens, just as we felt that horrible, did, had to step back and make sure that he had the offense to run through, Lamar Jackson, and that’s when they started to be good again. He was on a hot seat, in our opinion, just a few years ago. My question has got to be this, Nestor who runs the offense, if mentors the head

Nestor Aparicio  04:01

coach, well, it’s going to be up to him to figure it out, right? I mean, of all of these guys, like shield house, he doesn’t get the job. Is an OC candidate somewhere, but he wouldn’t be anywhere long, especially if it succeeded. I mean, that sounds like, hey, look, if they bring an OC in that’s a young guy, or they bring Cliff Kingsbury in, and he wins the Super Bowl next year with Lamar and fulfills the destiny that you know John Harbaugh couldn’t get done with Lamar here the OC to DC, that you know they’ll be coming to unload in the same way that everybody’s waiting this weekend, including your franchise, for the weekend to clear, because some of these four teams are going to have candidates that are going to wind up in Miami or Cleveland or a buffalo maybe at this point, I mean, it has been a wild job. I’ve never seen anything maybe just because my franchise is involved in it, it’s only happened here really one time. And the billet thing was 1998 but all these other franchises that lose perennially, every 234, years, shuttling guys in. They’re on this circus. As a sports radio guy, we haven’t done much of this around here these last 1012, days, you know, and hardball getting coordinated up in New York to the mentor thing, it feels to me like he was the front runner all along. It was the first guy they asked us to talk to. And they don’t even need to know who he is. I think the owner has even met him when he was a young guy, because the Ravens organization, there was a big thing that happened here defensively when wink Martindale came in, who was also a John guy and a Rex Ryan guy, and from that tree came in and Zach, or was an injured player at the time, who was trying to become a coach. He’d gone down to Jacksonville for a minute, Jesse Minter and another young guy you’ve heard of, Mike McDonald. They were the three guys that Har ball put into a defensive lab with wink Martindale to re scheme the Ravens defense from Terrell, Suggs, Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, the stuff that Rex and Marvin, quite frankly, had left behind a generation earlier that Ray Lewis had thrived in, you know, through that almost 20 years. So those three young guys wound up being Zach or mentor and McDonald. McDonald wound up getting out the side door two years ago here to Seattle, and he might be playing, might be winning the Super Bowl two weeks from now. Obviously, Minter was one of those guys that went on a different path with John’s brother, went to Vanderbilt for a minute, wound up with Jim Harbaugh, and then stayed with Jim Harbaugh. And I know you Ohio people would appreciate he was the guy there that saw nothing. So you know, when Jim was bringing in Navy SEALs to cheat and do all that stuff, he was the guy actually ran a team for a minute. Jesse Minter was and you know now he run the race. Look, if he had gotten out the door here, he might have been your coach by sundown, you know, Thursday night too, because he’s that hot of a prospect. And one of the reasons the Ravens didn’t let him out, you saw what Mary Kay reported, that we knew at that point he’s going to get a job somewhere. It’s not shocking, because the Ravens want to keep the system they had, they just wanted to jettison the 63 year old, expensive coach who was kind of hot headed they couldn’t get along with Lamar. And I think everybody landed on their feet here pretty well so far, except

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Kenny Roda  07:13

your franchise Nestor Aparicio, our guest, W NST, following there on Twitter at W n s t and Nestor is Jesse Minter, Brian Billick. And here’s what I mean by that. The Browns were interested in him. He told them no on the second interview and signed with Baltimore. You go back to the Billick days, the Browns didn’t want him to leave Cleveland. He did. He went to Baltimore, and Baltimore didn’t let him out, and they signed him. There is this a repeat?

Nestor Aparicio  07:39

Oh no, I would think that the people in the building that know Jesse Minter have checked off on him. He knows secretaries in the building. He’s walked that building for years, winter, summer. He knows draft process. He Eric, trust him implicitly. There’s not going to be a lot of guessing. I would think that it makes Kyle Hamilton and roquan Smith and some of the defensive players very comfortable in the same way that Jim Schwartz is still, you know. And I love Jim Schwartz. I’m unabashed about that. He’s Baltimore guys, but my friend, for 30 years, if he becomes your head coach, or your stays on as your DC, there’s gonna be a level of comfort for miles Garrett there and everybody on your defense that will be good. So, and, you know, Lamar knows Jesse Mintzer too. I mean, Lamar was here 1718, Jesse Minter was here for the last five minutes of Flacco and the first couple of years of Lamar before the plague. So, I mean, and really, the really good Lamar team, that 19 team, that sort of freight trained everybody. Jesse Minter was a young defensive backs assistant and then it sends it back to coach on that team. So, you know, it’s all in the family, and I saw Ryan Clark on ESPN called har ball junior, junior. And so I think I might wind up stealing that one, or at least borrowing it for a little while, because, until I see differently, they they like what they had, and as long as they get an OC in here to run Lamar, which is, and look, Lamar is thrived under monkeys. He thrived under Roman. You know, Lamar thrived even in Joe flacco’s offense for five minutes at the end, as long as Lamar is happy. Because, you know, he’s a franchise quarterback, $74 million cap number. If he’s unhappy, they’re going to have real turmoil here, and Jesse Minter is going to have turmoil to start, right? Because if you’re playing without Lamar, you might as well have taken the Pittsburgh job with a different job, Atlanta job. I think that’s the thing that made the giant so attractive, the hardball. So Jesse Minter doesn’t just have a system in a building and, you know, pipeline and good football players and Lamar Jackson, I think there’s some familiarity. So it’s an important hire the OC, there’s no doubt about that.

JT  09:51

Nestor, I’ve got a couple of questions that concern John Harbaugh, because he’s a local guy. His dad coached Junior High football here in Canton, Ohio, decades ago. But. Is this pertains to Cleveland Browns fans, if we were ready to move on from Stefanski, and we’re hearing that Atlanta fans aren’t exactly ecstatic about the higher why should we be glad that we didn’t get Harbaugh in Cleveland? And should Harbaugh waited until maybe the buffalo job opened up before he said yes in New York?

Nestor Aparicio  10:20

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Well, I don’t think anybody saw the buffalo job. And if you saw that press conference, you know, that job doesn’t look nearly as appealing from you know, do the owners know what they’re doing? And that’s Dude, that’s the question I have about your franchise. And I’ve known three or four employees of your your situation. They’re very, very well over the years, Phil Savage, George Aquinas and Mike Patton. I mean, these guys were friends of mine. And, you know, it’s hard to overcome bad ownership. And shotty has this great cushy thing where he’s been gone eight years, off the grid, checked out, by his own estimation, said that the fans didn’t matter. Came in and did a press conference for the first time in eight years, and said the fans didn’t matter. And, you know, wielded is I have the power. So I have the power means he’s checked off on. Jesse Minter, the Cleveland situation for John, I thought that they would, with the new stadium open and everything they’ve had to do out there, nothing would deodorize the Cleveland Browns quicker than bringing John Harbaugh back, whose father, Jack remains a Cleveland guardian. Died in the meal you call Jack Harbaugh right now. He knows everything about the Cleveland guardians. He knows their triple A, double A. I mean, he’s a fan, and John is a Cleveland you know, has identified as a Browns fan as a youth, I thought that they would make a more of a full court press. I guess it just was unattractive to John, because John doesn’t want to work for bad ownership. And I think, you know, I’ve known that from Brian Billick days, where one of the reasons he didn’t go to Cleveland, at times, he trusted art more than he trusted the new Cleveland situation, and the charges wanted him at that time too, and he didn’t trust banner. So, I mean, boy, mean, Brian never worked again in the league, because he only was really going to take, like, the Vikings job or the Chiefs job. There were a couple jobs were like, he’s like, I like the owners, and I could work there. I’m not going to work for a bad owner. I think certainly once, some guys don’t mind that. And other day, it’s one of 32 jobs. I’ll take them. They’re all good, right? And then there’s other people, like Harbaugh that said, you know, I need to be I thought the Green Bay situation would have been great for John. And I thought for Cleveland, they would offer him percentage points in ownership, some sort of Tom Brady, you know, har ball, family Coaching Academy, Canton, Ohio, masalon, cradle of football. You know all of that that John might have bitten at that John’s taking a bite at the Big Apple and a bite at Jackson’s art and a bite in a lousy division, which he also could have had in Atlanta, by the way, but no quarterback there. John Harbaugh landed exactly where John Harbaugh should land, and whether he’ll have success or not will depend on the quarterback and how much power he wields in that building. Because Joe sheen, days are numbered. You got $100 million he’s not the head coach. He’s the head God, and the fans have already coordinated him in New York. He’s got a beautiful situation there. Unless he doesn’t win,

Kenny Roda  13:15

who was the runner up to Jesse Minter? If Minter, for whatever reason, would have said no, it was there a clear runner up, a close second, the silver medalist or no?

Nestor Aparicio  13:27

Well, they brought Joe Kelly in. He might be the OC, right? I mean, like and they had brought Anthony Weaver in, who had been in building before. They had some comfort level with him. They interviewed 16 people. They only brought three people in Nate, shield house would also be another guy, and Chris was another guy. And they obviously couldn’t make that higher this week. You know, I would think the shield house situation would have been more appealing quarterback master student. You know, dicost is a genius to Costa is a dicost is immense. The kind of guy, he’s bookish, he reads a lot of books. He’s very smart, very strategic, very analytics forward. John Harbaugh’s taking that to New York. I see him wanting to work with someone he’s comfortable with and mentor. But, you know, I, I think she allowed us is the next chosen one, because he comes to the McVeigh tree, right? So there’s all that tree work going on with the McVeigh tree or the Shanahan tree. And you know what? With all that sexiness out there about offense and Lamar, let’s drive him like a Lamborghini, they wind up higher defensive guy.

JT  14:33

Speaking of speaking of defensive guys, I want to ask you about Rex Ryan, because it seems like every time you watch, get up, he’s pitching for his next ex head coaching job. Now he’s got a Super Bowl in his in his Super Bowl Championship when he was defensive coordinator for the ravens, is Rex Ryan ship sailed as a head coach,

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Nestor Aparicio  14:52

I would say, and look, I’ve always liked Rex. I haven’t talked to Rex in a decade. You know, Rex used to do my show. Every Monday, Rex tonight, steak together. Rex doesn’t eat vegetables, by the way. Fame, they had a lot of meals with Rex, Ryan. He does not eat Ivy. I’ve eaten a lot of chicken wings and Hooters with him and Mike Pat and trust, he does not eat vegetables. I like, Listen, I love his father. I did a television show with buddy here in 1997 so I knew buddy before I knew Rex. And I love Buddy and, you know, and I love watching Rex on TV. I mean, I like I do. I love that show. I’m into it. Anybody has thought John Harbaugh would bring Rex Ryan into the building? I just don’t think he would do that. He hired Rex’s brother a couple years ago. I think there’s a fondness and all of that. But I don’t know, we had a term around here that Lamar coin with Mark Ingram back in the big 19 years called Big trust. I don’t you know Cleveland you guys, but I don’t know how much of it gets you, but big trust meant we trust each other, you know. But it was T R USS, and it did T shirts and all that, when the team was good, totally lost to the chargers that year. And you know, the trust, I mean that the trust level that needs to be there. And horrible is the most paranoid dude I have met in my life. In 40 years of doing journalism, I have and a lot of these sort of Jar head ball coaches are all Navy up and sealed up and militaried up, and they’ve all read the art of war. You know, like all of that, horrible is the most paranoid of all of them. I just think part of horrible not having the most glorious tree of people is he always hired Greg Madison. He always hired guys that weren’t going to be the next head coach, because he’s a power freak. And look, I don’t even tell you guys, if you followed it last weekend, he spent 48 hours making the mayor of family twist, and portended that he was going to run off to Tennessee and take their gig. If he didn’t get enough power to build it, just go back and file anybody’s tweets last Friday or Saturday. He powered them to the nth degree, to where the Mara family gave har ball more control than he’s ever had. So it’s a power game at that level, and it’s Who do I trust and who do I want around me? And, and that’s a really crazy Holy Trinity between the coach and the general manager and the owner, right? And especially when there is an owner who has some power have, I mean, look the earth say girls think that they know football now, right? So they’re down on the field. They got headsets on. You know, in Tennessee, there’s a female owner. In Atlanta, there’s a Home Depot owner that wants to, you know, you to wear a suit and tie and take the elevator to the 23rd floor. You know what I mean, like? So they’re all these houses are very different and how they operate. The Ravens went with something very, very comfortable, and the Giants went with something that they covet, which is the HAR ball Coaching Academy in the suit and tie and bring him in. But Hart, you know, John’s going to run the operation in New York before it’s over with, because who’s going to overrule him when he likes the linebacker, you know, from Alabama on draft? I mean, here, I don’t know that that really, there was some checks and not some. There were hell of a lot of checks and balances, because Ozzy’s in the room still make it fixed, and Joe Ortiz, was there a lot of smart football people in the building that made John look smarter when he put the players on the field. Belichick found that out when all the smart people left the building too, right? You don’t get good football players. You don’t win. I’m not telling you anything you don’t know.

Kenny Roda  18:15

Nestor Aparicio, our guest, W NST in Baltimore. Follow him on Twitter there at W NST talking ravens, the hiring of Jesse Minter. All right, they’ve got their coach, right? He’s got a fill out his staff. What’s the next biggest need for the Baltimore Ravens in the offseason, now that they got their coach?

Nestor Aparicio  18:31

Well, offensive coordinator, offense for Lamar, and then lamar’s contract, and in that order, and by the way, quickly, quickly, right? Like they need to get people in seats, and they need to fill out staff, because everybody’s trying to hire the next shield house, right? So Jim Schwartz needs a job. In all these people need jobs, and they want to know what their certainty is, so in the next 1012, days, and then there’s Lamar, who represents Lamar. Lamar’s Mama represents Lamar, and whether there really is kumbaya that he wants to be a raven, that he’s in line with this. Because if he doesn’t, this is his chance to beg off, to go to Miami or the Raiders, or get a fresh start, or go work in a new system, or get repaid all over again, because he still has that cachet about him. The ravens are on the hook for $74 million as a cap number, and Lamar doesn’t have to do anything. And Lamar famously pissed Harbaugh got sideways, including in my phone from John Harbaugh, when I tweeted that Lamar not showing up for OTAs, and Lamar not answering his phone, and Lamar going to the letter of the law of the Players Association. I’m off till April. I’ll see you then, you know what I mean. And I won’t be at OTAs. And, like, literally, Lamar has been that guy from the beginning, and it really pissed John off so much that it got him fired. In a year when Lamar was injured and John doubled his money, as I said, from the beginning, like there are no loot, there no unhappy. People here, John and his wife look delighted to be in the swamps jersey with a fresh start. Now, is Lamar happy? I don’t know. I don’t have him on the bat phone, but apparently Steve bishati and Eric Decosta believe they do. But he cost what? He got the coach fired here and now, is he going to get the next coach coronated? I don’t know, but we’re going to find out his position. The last time I saw him, he was yelling at Jameson Hensley the press conference in Pittsburgh, like, you know, I’m pissed off. I’m pissed off, you know. Okay, great. So if Lamar is happy, they have a chance to win the Super Bowl. If Lamar is not happy, they nobody will be happy, including Jesse Minter.

Kenny Roda  20:39

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Last thing, and we’ll let you go. Nestor Aparicio, your doppelganger is Johnny Knoxville. Has anybody ever told you that?

Nestor Aparicio  20:47

You know, I’ve gotten that, and I don’t, I don’t necessarily see it. I’ve got, I’ve got, I get a lot. I guess I look like I grew up looking like a punch from of chips, and which would probably get me arrested in Minneapolis right now, being Venezuelan and all. And then I went to the Donnie Osmond phase for a period of time. I’ve actually been confused with John Harbaugh. I mean, a lot in Baltimore, my hair was short. I had the same color hair, sort of haircut as John Harbaugh. I’m going back 789, years. My hair is very, very Eddie Van Halen, 1984 right now. You know, sort of diver down. Eddie Van Halen is where my hair is right now. So I do not look like unless Johnny Knoxville looks like that. You know, I don’t know.

Kenny Roda  21:33

I have a picture of Johnny Knoxville with glasses on the one we’re using for the podcast. If he ever needs a stunt double or a body double. I think you’re gonna make some

Nestor Aparicio  21:42

money in Hollywood. Send it over to me. I want to have fun with it. I mean, dude, we’re getting a blizzard here. We’ve already got a coach. Our teams aren’t playing some levity, by the way, I don’t leave you guys, Can I kick you in the nuts just before I leave?

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Kenny Roda  21:56

We’re used to it in Cleveland, it’s a normal day,

JT  21:59

numb. We’re numb.

Nestor Aparicio  22:02

Go ahead, try it Wednesday. This Wednesday is the 25th anniversary of the Ravens Super Bowl, 35 championship. So, like I as a radio guy on my station, honestly, I’ve lived that for 25 years with every Ray Lewis, Rod, Woodson, Trent differ, Tony Syracuse and Lake greater, you know. So I’m that’s my error for the next couple of days. So if you guys are giving me content with Johnny Knoxville, yeah,

JT  22:28

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I gotta tell you something that pales in comparison. Kenny and I are coming back from spring training, and we get diverted to the same runway that art modell signed away our life when he moved the team to Baltimore. Who cares if you win Super Bowls? He took our team to Baltimore, and we were on the same damn runway.

Nestor Aparicio  22:46

I was in a bar called I know if you guys are familiar with this, it was called the Crazy Horse, and it was in Parma that night. Or was it Brookside Park?

Kenny Roda  22:55

Par It was Brook Park. It was in Brook Park. I can’t say I’ve been there, but I know where it’s at.

Nestor Aparicio  23:01

It was an Eddie money song. It was, I was single man. It was a long time ago, but that’s why I actually was at game five of the World Series that night. So I’m really not kidding you. I was in the upper deck, freezing my ass off under blankets with Eric Singer from Kiss three rows behind me, up in the upper the seat. They don’t even have it to Jake anymore, though, like the right field seats stared at the lake. They’re gone. I was up in those seats with one of my best friends in the world, and the next morning that Cleveland Browns were in Baltimore. So yeah, feeling you guys, and the rest is history. I you know, hey, at this rate, we’re we have a new coach. We have chaos here. Who knows? Maybe you’ll win the next Super Bowl before we do,

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Kenny Roda  23:42

we’ll see what happens with I just sent you Johnny knoxville’s picture. You can have fun with that, and we always appreciate the time. Nestor, thanks so much for joining us. Good luck with the weather there in Baltimore.

Nestor Aparicio  23:51

All right, Rhoda, I go back so far with you that we didn’t even have a logo, man, you were like the first dude in Cleveland when art was moving the team that I went on with back in 1990 in early 1996 man, so we’ve been at this a long time. It’s our 30th anniversary together.

Kenny Roda  24:05

You and me. How about that? I’ll celebrate tonight by drinking a Diet Coke. All right,

Nestor Aparicio  24:12

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all right. I’ll come see you guys soon. Man, take care of yourself. Thanks, Nestor.

Kenny Roda  24:15

Nestor Aparicio, W NST in Baltimore, ravens beat. Reporter, checking in with us. They’re happy with the guy. They got Jesse Minter, part of the John Harbaugh tree, so some familiarity with him that they like. Now they got to just go get an OC, and we’ll see who that might be.

24:33

It’s Kenny and JT on W HBC, you.