Luke Jones and Nestor discuss Corbin Burnes and Game 1 Wild Card loss to Royals at Camden Yards
Luke Jones and Nestor discuss โฆloss to Royals at Camden Yards
Wed, Oct 02, 2024 6:51AM โข 32:03
SUMMARY KEYWORDS
Corbin Burnes, Game 1 loss, Royals, pitching, Orioles, playoffs, bullpen, hitting struggles, Cole Reaganโs, Seth Lugo, lineup issues, offseason plans, payroll, new ownership, postseason pressure
SPEAKERS
Luke Jones, Nestor Aparicio
Nestor Aparicio 00:01
Welcome home. We are W n s t, Towson, Baltimore, Baltimore, positive. It is a playoff time. Around here, we are playing hasty baseball. Around here. Weโre awaiting some football this weekend as well. All things w n s t are going to be back in action next Friday. Hopefully the Orioles are still around at that point, Iโll have Raven scratch offs to give away. It is Friday the 11th. It is Lukeโs birthday. This week. Itโs my birthday next week, we are converging next Friday for the Maryland crab cake tour. Weโre gonna be pizza Johnโs in Essex. Thatโs I did that for Luke, because itโs Lukeโs favorite place. He might need some pizza once the Orioles get eliminated. Hey, Ravens won this weekโs all we can say. Also, our friends at the Maryland oyster tour and the oyster tour and the oyster recovery partnership have thrown us out with Curia wellness, foreign daughter, and our friends and I donโt have my my liberty, pure solutions. Water, yeah, because I drank some of it in my studio, because the Orioles made me drink 800 clean water is the way to make that happen. Luke Jones joins us now in the aftermath of which one we wonโt forget, I guess, right, like, game wasnโt a sell out. Four oโclock weather was kind of weird. Pitching was kind of great. Uh, hitting, not so great. Um, if Earl Weaver were to sit up one last time and you were to ask him, heโd tell you, playoffs all about pitching. Itโs all about pitching. Octoberโs all about pitching. Pitching, pitching. Pitching, pitching. We need to pitching. We gotta go get Corbin burns. We gotta go get we gotta go get efflin at the deadline. This is why you go get dudes right. And I donโt think the Orioles got the wrong dude. I mean, Corbin burns, he may never make another start for the Orioles. He may never pitch again. This may have been a rental for Ortiz for for nine months, but, you know, he gave them more than enough to win game one of the wild card on Tuesday, Luke,
Luke Jones 01:44
I mean, this is what they got him for. You know, they got him back in early February because of the face plant that theyโre starting pitching did in last Octoberโs Division Series sweep to the Rangers, understanding it was young guys. I mean, itโs Kyle Bradish, his first career started, pitched pretty well, actually, in that game, Grayson Rodriguez, not so much. Dean Kramer, not so much. But you acquire Corbin burns with the idea that heโs starting game one. Youโve youโve been talking about game one for the better part of six weeks, amidst the struggles of the Orioles down the stretch, and Corbin burns goes a season high eight innings, he very much had a chance to finish that game. I mean, if itโs two to one there, Iโm not so sure that youโre going to, certainly not going to Keegan Aiken after the leadoff single in the ninth. But, you know, maybe Corbin burns tries to finish that game, but gives up one run, gives up one RBI single to Bobby Witt Jr. You know, I saw a lot of people talk about potentially walking him there. I donโt think you do that. However, I will say this, Iโd like to see him miss the plate on that first pitch, rather than that cutter catching a little bit too much of the plate lowing away. I would have liked to have seen him maybe throw a sweeper there. He had thrown a first pitch cutter to wit on the first two at bats, and it had worked, right? I mean, itโs not like Bobby Witt even the RBI single. Itโs not like he hammered that ball, just hit it in the right spot, solid contact on a first pitch cutter and and gets it by gunner Henderson into left field. But itโs terrible.
Nestor Aparicio 03:16
Heโs got to think about that. Because, like, yeah.
Luke Jones 03:19
I mean, you know what? I mean, like, it was the same, well, right? Nothing about it, right? And really, the mistake was walking Michael Garcia right, the number nine hitter, and he steals second base, which wasnโt a surprise me. We know burns doesnโt hold runners particularly well, but, and thatโs also a legitimate base stealer there. So that was what he really, truly lamented. So I was just kind of covering and addressing people who look itโs a fair question. You know, Bobby Witt, if it werenโt for Aaron judge, would be a slam dunk MVP having a historic season. But you know, they they pitched to him your best guy. I mean, Kansas City wasnโt surprised that burns pitched to wit Brandon Hyde certainly said, Hey, Iโm going to let my guy go after, who he thinks is best to go after, and Bobby Witt won that battle. So but any any talk beyond that goes back to the fact that you didnโt score a run. You didnโt score a single run. I did say, and you can go back and listen to it from a couple days ago that there was way too much celebrating about the fact that the Orioles had avoided Tarik skull and the Detroit Tigers, because I said Cole Reaganโs is an all star. Cole Reaganโs is going to get Cy Young votes. You know, heโs going to get in that top five voting. Well,
Nestor Aparicio 04:33
theyโre lucky to get 20 more pictures of him, right? I mean, hey, easily would have been two more innings to him had he not had that cramp, right? Right? Exactly.
Luke Jones 04:40
I mean, at least one more inning, right? I mean, I mean, this is a young guy. I mean, he wasnโt going to go 115 pitches, but he certainly was going to go longer than he did. So that was another instance there where something went their way. Actually, that was something that you would have hoped. I asked Gunnar Henderson in the post game clubhouse if that was a moment where they thought, Okay. Hereโs our opening. We didnโt do much against Reaganโs, letโs go. And they just didnโt do anything against the Kansas City bullpen, either. And you know that bullpen was good down the stretch, and Lucas airsig For Save. Heโs someone that, when you and I were talking trade deadline at fadelies, go
Nestor Aparicio 05:18
ahead and brag everybody in the press box in a tweet out about you screaming about needing him, as opposed to Trevor Rogers. Well, I
Luke Jones 05:26
mean, I didnโt scream it, letโs be clear, but he was certainly amongst the names that I mentioned to say, Hey, this is a guy that you can throw out there in high leverage. And Kansas City acquired him from Oakland and made him their closer, and he did the job. But again, this comes, theyโre still playing
Nestor Aparicio 05:43
baseball two or three weeks from now, youโll look at that and say, well, they, you know? I mean, thatโs what the trading deadline is about. Is about improving your team. And I have nothing on the trading deadline. I have, I mean, other people are beating up. Mike Elias, they lost a one nothing game in the in the playoffs. I mean, like, they can play that game 100 times over. Those pitchers are elite, and I think you can see the difference between that and no offense to Dean Kramer, Iโm just gonna use him, but Iโll use Suarez, because weโve had a whole Venezuelan Anglo debate here this week with the Whistler and the Orioles. Um, didnโt matter who it is, but like, thereโs a difference between a dude and not a dude, and then thereโs also a difference between having Maddox Glavine Smoltz and have them go out there, and only one of them looks like that in October, because that happens too. Thereโs been plenty of guys have gone out in October. I mean, you can mention the giant starters, the Dodger starters from years ago, whether itโs, you know, Clayton, Kershaw, just all of these guys, if they were all buzzsaws, they they all would have won World Series, a lot more World Series, and pitching a lot more big games, because big game starters, guys like Corbin burns, they only get a handful of chances to even make these kind of October starts in a lot of cases. And itโs not just a microscope, itโs a telescope. Itโs something that playoff baseball is so different. I mean, I you know, and I sensed it when I went out to the Beaumont I picked my wife up from the airport on Tuesday night. Sheโs been gone on a family issue, and we went out. I mean, just all the long faces and just the feeling of losing the one nothing playoff game, every fan of the Orioles, like this is a rare feeling to lose October playoff games, because we havenโt had any of them. People donโt even know how it feels. It that was, thatโs a devastating loss. I mean, I I just all the air went out of the city on Tuesday night. And, I mean, I would tell I wrote a Dear David Rubenstein letter. I tell him, thatโs a good thing. That means people care, you know, like people are into it. People care, but it is. Man, itโs high, high stakes, especially these games. I mean, the Zach Britton game we remember. Man, that was 10 years ago, you know, like the the one and done wild cards, and this is itโs gonna feel one and done. If the sun sets tonight and the seasonโs over, itโs going to feel like a one game playoff, but it happens so fast, and you have to have this pitching, and weโll get to it in a minute. You have to hit the ball too. Yeah. I
Luke Jones 08:10
mean, thatโs the thing. I mean, Corbin burns gave up one run in eight innings. I mean, that was excellent. Thatโs all you could reasonably ask. You canโt ask your pitcher. You canโt expect your pitcher to go out and throw a shutout. I mean, even Cole Reaganโs as good as he was, he was lifted after six innings. I mean, they had their chance, right? They had their opportunities. They had their opportunities against coal Reagans. And we can get into that, but itโs, itโs deflating, I think, whatโs you and you just mentioned it. Obviously, this is not the one game wild card. So itโs not that extreme, however, now, and youโre really apt to be patient, to not overreact, even in a five game series, right where, you know, if you go down, oh, one, hey, you got at least two more cracks at it. And thatโs where the Orioles were at that point in game two, when Grayson Rodriguez took the ball against the Rangers last October, and we we saw how that happened. But it is tough to not make it feel like your season is absolutely on the brink in the way that it would be if you were down three. Oh, right, in a best of seven. You need to think about this more in terms of, okay, youโre down three games to two and a best of seven, because thatโs what it is right now, you win two, you win the last two. Youโre moving on. Thatโs not insurmountable. Thatโs not something that hasnโt been done many times in the history of baseball. But in a best of seven, where youโre down three, two, youโve won two games already, right? Youโve youโve tasted victory in this case. And this is why I think you making the point about game one so many times, and you were mentioning it more in the context of Corbin burns, but I think itโs bigger than that for so many of these other guys who were here last year, and now youโre thinking about, Oh, are we are we going to be out just like that again, just like this
Nestor Aparicio 09:59
one? For dinner. Iโm like, if they lose tomorrow, I donโt have any plans in October, literally, other than this crab cake door next week, I cleaned my calendar. I didnโt make sales calls, I didnโt make appointments. You and I could be in New York on Monday. Itโd be fun. Why wouldnโt we go? If I got $100 room in New York and you and I are up there? Like, why wouldnโt you go and squeeze out the juice of whatever this season has been, which was really nice the first three months, not so great the last three months certainly doesnโt feel good today, right now. But like, I clean the whole calendar out for us, for you, for me, for my real life, to watch baseball and like, if Iโm sobbing in my natty bow at eight oโclock tonight, itโs i It would really be deflating if this thing goes the wrong way, especially today, and I dare I say today, because, like, Tommy combo says, right, no tomorrow, baby, thereโs just right now. They better be playing a game on Thursday, right?
Luke Jones 10:52
I mean, you could say that, but Seth Luca was going to the hill. I mean, youโre talking about another All Star starting pitcher. I hope you know, for Baltimoreโs sake, for this Clubโs sake, that they get off the mat and they answer the bell and Zach Eflin is as good as Corbin Burns was, and your office somebody hits the ball. How
Nestor Aparicio 11:09
about somebody Exactly,
Luke Jones 11:11
exactly. But Iโm also not going to be shocked, as I wrote at Baltimore positive.com Look, the October Orioles debut was very similar to what we saw throughout the second half of the season, right? I mean, I guess the only thing you would say is they didnโt kick the ball around defensively, right? But they didnโt hit, and we saw plenty of that as the month of August went on. We saw plenty of that, a lot of that in the month of September, but they had the five, five and one Finish to close the regular season. They had the late September return of Jordan, westburg and Ramona Rios, and even though it didnโt apply, Danny coulomb and Jacob Webb and Heston kerstad, I mean, they got all the members of the band that could come back to for the remainder of the season, other than Grayson Rodriguez. They, they all came back. So there was optimism, right, that October was going to be different. And, you know, instead one loss in your seasons on life support, but thatโs, thatโs the reality of a best of three, and you just mentioned it. I mean, itโs just because you play a certain way, or you have a certain record in the regular season, or even in the month of September. I mean, Kansas City had a bad September, but they had a good starting pitcher on Tuesday. The slate is wiped clean. And their starting pitcher was, you know, I donโt want to say he was better than Corbin burns for one thing. I mean, he went six innings, but I would say this, he was more dominant in terms of missing bats. Iโm not saying that as a knock on burns. Burns was great.
Nestor Aparicio 12:41
Yeah, weโll talk about missing bats in a minute. We should do a whole freaking segment on swinging through pitches, and James McCann and lineup and where rushman, we can go through all of that, but Paul
Luke Jones 12:50
Reaganโs is great at that. I mean, go, Look. I mean, this is a guy who averaged 11 plus strikeouts per nine innings. I mean, thatโs, thatโs really elite territory for a starting pitcher. Youโre like, Nick
Nestor Aparicio 12:59
laughing. I mean, just the way he the way he looked, the way he threw the ball. And then, you know, I watched the earlier game, you know, that guy scooples A monster. I mean, heโs like, he reminds me Richie path in little league. And Barry Stitz knows what Iโm talking about. So does Carol kowski and but, I mean, just big, nasty, overhand, hard throwing Sabathia, kind of like nasty, um, Iโll say this when itโs all over with and the requiems done, and whenever it ends today, tomorrow, next week, when they donโt win the World Series. Because I donโt think theyโre winning the World Series, but youโd come back and beat me up if Iโm the guy the morning after they lose game one and they go, win the World Series. You can find the tape and saying, I donโt think theyโre winning the World Series. Oh,
Luke Jones 13:40
no oneโs saying that, right? I
Nestor Aparicio 13:41
mean, youโre Iโd be okay doing that. Yeah, I
Luke Jones 13:45
think heโd be okay doing that. I mean, but, but, like, Iโll continue to say it, and I hear you. I love Tarek schubel, but Cole Reagan was excellent this year. I mean, look at especially look at the peripherals, with the strikeout to walk ratio and all of that. He probably was better than what his season era was. Thatโs how impressive he was over the course of the season. And this is a guy that you know had two Tommy John surgeries early, early in his minor league career. I mean, this is the guy who go look at his minor league numbers. He had multiple seasons where he didnโt pitch at all. So heโs actually a great story. You know, we havenโt paid attention to him because itโs the Kansas City Royals. I mean, they Royals. I mean, they lost 106 games a year ago. The Royals have been a really good story. If it werenโt for what the Tigers did in the month of September, everyone would be talking about the Royals in the context that theyโre talking about the Tigers right now. Thatโs why I kept saying, and I donโt mean to you. I mean, in general, when people were saying, Oh, wow, the Orioles got lucky. Theyโre avoiding Tariq, just like hold the phones. Cole Reaganโs is really good. Seth, Lugo. I mean, thatโs a as formidable as a starting one two punch as just about anyone has in baseball, other than maybe if you want to look at the Phillies and a couple, maybe a couple other teams, but their statistically is as. Good as anybody thatโs left in this field, Al or nl. So I was saying, Hey, you got to be ready. Cole Reaganโs is really good. You know, this wasnโt fluky. Iโm not giving the Orioles a pass. Letโs be clear. Youโve got to go out and score some runs. Canโt get shut out in a postseason game, especially when your ACE goes eight innings of one run ball. But at the same time, Cole Reaganโs isnโt a slot. Heโs not a, you know, heโs not a, heโs not a bomb, right? I mean, heโs no slouch. So I canโt sit here and say Iโm shocked about it, but youโve got to move past it. Youโve got, youโve got to turn the page. And the problem is, as much as youโre apt to try to compartmentalize and just move on and say, Hey, that thatโs over next day, and that applies. But you know that the stakes are way higher than that. You know, this isnโt a case where even in a best of seven you dropped game one. You know, itโs disappointing, but youโre not feeling your seasons on the brink. You drop game one and a best of three, I mean, youโre staving off elimination the next day, so next two days, yeah, well, and even if they win up, youโre doing that the next two days, sure, but dude, I
Nestor Aparicio 16:10
hope you and I are here tomorrow. You know, talking about a game two victory, a five, three win, and they swung the bats a little bit, and somebody hit the ball, and thereโs a spark of life, because that, that is how this happens. Me sitting here pissing myself crying on Wednesday morning, saying, Oh, next thing you know, Saturday morning, Luke and I are firing up the old Mega Bus, and next thing you know, the lights are on in the Bronx on Saturday Are you like? Because it does happen like that. I mean, it happens very, very quickly, but it was disheartening and not hitting the ball, which is not, you know, itโs a trend, itโs a way. Itโs been a way of life around here, and then getting that kind of pitching and having it not work. Luke Jones is here. Heโs Baltimore, Luke, weโre gonna be back after heโll get the ballpark today. We have no coverage of the Ravens. If you want to know why we donโt have ravens coverage, email. Chad Steele, Iโm sick of it, especially on a day like today. Really pisses me off. If you want to read my David Rubenstein letter, please read that Iโve been doing this work 33 years. These people are disgraced, not letting me in and running Luke ragged and having me not have coverage. So I just want to say that having Mike radio station for 26 years not have coverage is disgraceful, disgraceful. And discriminating against me and saying one guy can go another, disgraceful, disgraceful. I want to say it again and again, disgraceful. So that being said, pitching, um, burns right the minute he walks off the hill, the fan, the real fans, the fans that are way nastier than me, you know, the like, Iโm out on Twitter, and you can see itโs like being in a bad bar. I mean, what a cesspool that that website is. But if used properly, you only get three Elon Musk Trump ads a day. But nonetheless, the the Corbin burns experiment for this organization at a time where John own the team, allegedly, Elias takes on payroll. They have a new owner. Iโm sure he was in contact with Rubenstein in February and March, when a thing happened that there was some level of, donโt give the farm away. Iโll be there April 1, whatever, right? Corbin burns happens that, I donโt want to say thatโs an outlier. They had enough in their farm system to give up a major league player. I mean, itโs going to be in the big leagues for a number of years to rent him. To your point for yesterday. You know, nice to have him for those 2832 starts, whatever youโre going to get out of him was great for three months, stunk for a month. Pretty decent for the last month. You get it, itโs over for their relationships, over now, right? Unless heโs pitching in New York on, I guess, which would be Monday night, right? Unless that happens, that transaction is now over, and Corbin burns, according to Ben McDonald in the broadcast of heโs gonna be a 200 million Well, we always say that. Scott Boris is saying $500 million picture, right? But the reality of now, I saw where Mr. Rubensteinโs never spoken to me, but he speaks to whatever the banner, whoever has a paywall, heโll speak to them. And apparently said, Well, I guess weโre gonna have to spend some money. Yeah, yeah. Did you look into this before you bought the team. Did you look into how these angry? You think my letters bad? You should hear what they say on the internet. I wrote a civil letter. You know about my professionalism, but people like expect this time next year if they get to the playoffs, whoโs the number one starter? I guess itโs effluent. He better look like that today, right? And theyโre already paying him on short track for next year, part of the deal in August. But this is how tough Mike Elias job is in managing the itโs different for the Costa and those guys, because they have money falling off a tree too. I mean, there were empty seats the other day. This teamโs not rolling in the kind of money. Yeah, unless Mr. Rubensteinโs just really, really generous, if heโs generous, heโd leave me a freaking press pass today. But if heโs really generous, um, heโll put an extra 50 or 60 million in for the next couple of years and add another 20 to 30 million to the payroll, the way Peter did. I mean, I talk bad about Peter, plenty. Peter pissed a lot of money away in 2002 345, chasing ghosts and being 25 $30 million upside down on revenue and payroll. I donโt know, Mr. Rubenstein doesnโt run upside down businesses to clap. Iโm, you know, Iโm not even convinced heโs like this hardcore baseball fan, or as baseball people around him. I think he wanted to be famous, and I think he has a lot of money. Was money. Was looking for a toy thatโs, thatโs what I think weโll find out. But itโs an, itโs a way better toy when you donโt feel the way you feel today, when you lose buying Corbin burns to start next yearโs game one or someone like him, or you were trying to steal scuba at the trading deadline. There was no stealing. You have to get Jackson holiday way to get, you know what I mean, like you werenโt going to steal that guy. But this is hard to do to find the kind of pitching that youโre going to be able to go because we donโt love Dean Kramer. We donโt love you donโt love most of these guys that we like Bradish, I donโt ever might not be the same, same thing with means these guys, theyโre ancient history. Now theyโre gonna have to go out next year, and thereโs going to be all these expectations in the orange Birdland. Theyโre going to come out and whateverโs going to happen the next day or couple of weeks with the team, but getting another Corbin burns to go get you a game one, I got to tip my cap to Elias, because Iโd say this much as theyโll beat him up over if thereโs idiots over 1057, um, I mean, he gave him everything. Heโs exactly what they needed. They brought him in. He was dude most of the year. You know, he didnโt look like Jim Palmer in August, fine. But, like, itโs gonna be really hard to get another dude like that that can come, come and do that, because thatโs gonna be a $200 million Spence for this, for this program. And I do thatโs my long winded on a day, and weโre not going to do a lot of radio, just saying, like replicating the pitching that youโre going to need this time of year. Mr. Rubenstein, better not be telling the you know, guess weโre going to have to spend some money. Better have a plan, dude. Katie Griggs, all of you, you better have a plan, because winning these games, if, if burns and Eflin arenโt good enough, if something bad happens, and they lose Ford two today, and effin really pitches well and gets six in a two thirds, or whatever, theyโre good enough to make this happen. This never would have happened under angelos, like literally taking on this money taking on these pictures with the stadiums empty. Weโre not selling tickets. Itโs the crime. Itโs the game time, itโs the weather. The kids are school. Tickets are 12 bucks at game time, and people didnโt want to come the pitching part of this and paying for it. I donโt, I donโt. This is rarefied air. Itโs really hard to get to October, and itโs really hard to win in October. And to your point, they donโt draft Tarik schoubles. They donโt draft pitchers. You beat me up pretty good. You sat me down and gave me a gave me a talking to two weeks ago. They donโt draft pictures, so they have to buy them. So I am concerned from the from a pitching perspective, if this isnโt good enough, and it was good enough, but whatโs it going to cost? And winning a World Series is going to, theyโre going to have to invest in Corbin burns. Theyโre going to, theyโre theyโre going to have to buy him, or a dude like him, because you canโt come in October without him. See, I
Luke Jones 23:37
think thatโs, I think thatโs the wrong way to look at it. I mean, if youโre singularly focused on one player, then yeah, youโre going to give him a $200 million contract, and heโs going to get hurt. Heโs going to get hurt or and now, September changed my thinking on this a bit, because he did make the tweaks with the cutter, and he did start missing more bats. Go, look at a strikeout rate over the last four years. Itโs declined. Now, let me be clear. Iโm not saying here with 100% conviction, do not sign Corbin burns under any circumstances. Thatโs not at all what Iโm saying here. What Iโm saying here is there are always multiple paths to get where you need to go. And I would look no further than the Texas Rangers. A year ago, Nathan avaldi wasnโt a $200 million contract guy. Jordan Montgomery was a rental. So there are always ways to do that. I mean, Zach effel, even if Grayson Rodriguez had come back, Zach Evelyn was going to be their game two starter the way he pitched over the last two months. So my point with that is, yes, I agree their pitching is going to have to be addressed in some shape or form, and that includes potentially spending money, and even big money to go get pitching, or to go make a really savvy trade, or whatever you decide to do, theyโre gonna have to address it. But I think the wrong thinking would be to overreact and just throw two, $50 million at Corbin burns without at least. And considering all of your options, but youโre right, because theyโre going to be in a position where, okay, Zach Eflin will be the opening day starter. Presumably, you hope that Grayson Rodriguez, who is throwing bullpens at the end of the year, will be you know youโre number two. You hope that Dean Kramer builds on his second half, and you feel good about him as a middle of the rotation guy, if not a back of the rotation guy, but Kyle Bradish, best case, best case scenario is heโs back in what August, maybe Tyler wells, same kind of deal for him. So, yeah, youโre gonna have to go out and do some work if Corbin burns doesnโt return. So look,
Nestor Aparicio 25:39
there are recording birds returning. It starts elite. Look like 150 million after start like that, right? Sure. Look, itโs
Luke Jones 25:45
not going to be cheap. I mean, heโs going to get paid by somebody, because this is a guy who has a track record. And again, I want to stress, Iโm not sitting here saying donโt do it under any circumstances. Thatโs not what Iโm saying. In the same way that weโve talked about Anthony Santander, thereโs a price point where Iโd want to resign him at the same time. I also remember the Chris Davis contract when he was coming off of a 47 home run season, and everyone was saying, oh my gosh, we must sign Chris Davis. We must sign Chris Davis. And everyone who says they didnโt at the time is lying, because if I remember the chance that they have a screenshot
Nestor Aparicio 26:16
from John Moeller that I you know, our relationship and him doing the show didnโt look well. It did live long enough for me to give him ish about it, but I have a screenshot of his. If they donโt sign, Chris Davis, Iโm done, you know, because thatโs lots of people who said things like that, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like so. And I would just say weโre a long way removed from that. And they donโt have any turd contracts right now, they donโt have any. Mr. Rubenstein doesnโt have any money on the books that are turd deal, other than whatever heโs paying. Bobby Bonilla, you know, Chris Davis is the one that every year is getting some money annuities. Is what they would say, Nice annuity. But he doesnโt have any dead money like that. But heโs gonna have to step up. And I donโt think heโs a cheapskate. Heโs a billionaire, but he might still be a cheapskate. I donโt know. Time will tell as to how this place is run, and thatโs why I sent him a letter on Tuesday. How you running this place? You are Angelos. Now donโt pretend youโre out throwing hats. Youโre responsible. Youโre responsible for the fact that Luke has a press pass and Iโm not. Youโre going to be responsible for the $200 million or not, and Elias will make run cover for you and whatever, but and Katie Griggs has to go out and find money in this market where they couldnโt give away $12 tickets for a playoff game at four oโclock because the kids were at school, or the weather was bad, or they didnโt like the opponent, or I was afraid to get mugged, or whatever stupid thing youโd say, but they have a, this a business issue. I mean, for Luke, I mean, it is. Itโs a business issue as to how you afford Corbin burns, or whether, you know, you know, Uncle Rubensteinโs just going to be philanthropic, because itโs really expensive to have Corbin burns. And dare I say, you donโt want to be in October without, without him, without, without it, because you had it, and you still didnโt win, um, but it gave you a chance. And, yeah, I donโt know we can linger. You wonโt do another one. Take, take a break like we havenโt talked about the hitting, because there hasnโt been any
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Sure. And Iโll leave you with this, and this will actually roll right into our discussion about the hitting. I mean, going back to what I said about there being more than one path to approach the off season, you can go out and resign Corbin burns, great. You need another right handed bat in this lineup. I mean, at some point in time, weโve got to acknowledge that. And you know what? Maybe it is Kobe Mayo next year. But I donโt think you can put all your eggs in that basket. I think one basket. I think one of the problems that the Orioles have run into, and I think this is where you give Kansas City some credit. Go look at what the Kansas City Royals did over their last off season, and some of that was that was much more on the pitching side. I mean, thatโs not a great lineup. Bobby Witt Vinnie pasquatino, theyโve got some hitters at the top of that order, but theyโve got a lot of have nots in that lineup as well. Lineup as well. Letโs well, they only gotta overreact, but my, but my right, exactly. But my point is, this teamโs kind of in that in between phase with the old guard of the you know, obviously, Austin Hayes is gone. Cedric Mullins, itโs gonna be entering the last year of his deal. Santander is in a walk here. No go down Mount castle and the new guard, which, hey, gunner was a stud almost, you know, he needed a couple months, and heโs their best player, right? Thatโs fine. Adley rutschman, weโll talk about that. Colton cowser has taken a really nice step forward, but still want to see more consistency out of him. But, you know, would be their best player if it werenโt for Henderson, West, you know West westburg, great. But you know some of the other guys, like, you know, Jackson holiday, heโs 20. Iโm not, Iโm not down on him, letโs be clear. But heโs, heโs 20, uh, Heston kerstead, what is he right? I mean, so theyโre kind of in this in between phase where, I think looking at how the Royals approached it, even though they donโt have these. Great veteran bats in the middle of their lineup, but itโs the same principle they supplemented, They complimented some of their young talent with some established veterans. I mean, Cole Reaganโs looks so much better when heโs got Seth Lugo and Michael waka backing him up in that rotation, right? So it just makes them better collectively. I think thatโs something the Orioles gonna have to look at this off season, regardless of whether the season ends today, tomorrow or maybe not. If they go to the World Series, maybe then we just say, Hey, man, maybe it was good enough. But, you know, I think thatโs something else theyโre going to have to take a look at, because of the way that this offense struggled, especially, you know, for a big chunk of August and for the first three weeks of September. So itโs not just about Corbin burns or replacing Corbin burns, and not just about the bullpen, but theyโve got to take a look at the lineup. I mean, how can you not? And weโre going to spend our next segment talking about nothing, nothing. No runs scored in what was the Orioles nine. Stay
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tuned, everybody. When we come back, weโre going to talk about nothing, nothing. Luke Jones is here. He is Baltimore, Luca. Weโre going to be next Friday at Pizza Johnโs. Look Iโm going to sell. Itโs October. Sammy hagarโs birthday. Itโs Jim Palmerโs birthday. Itโs your birthday. Itโs my birthday. Weโre getting all the birthdays together. Next Friday, the 11th, will be a pizza Johnโs. Weโll have the Raven scratch offs to give away. I promise we will get back to happy news and the Ravens one, they look good. He scored points, um, and theyโre headed off to Cincinnati this week. But in the meantime, I hope we have 124, more baseball games before the three more baseball games before Sunday, when the the Ravens get together with the Cincinnati Bengals. Heโs Luke. Iโm Nestor. Weโre back for more. Oyster tour begins. Check it out. And please, please take seriously my letters, all my letters to Steve Bisciotti and John Harbaugh and Eric DaCosta, but I wrote a letter to David Rubenstein that launched on Tuesday. And hope you read it. Take it seriously. Iโm Nestor. Heโs Luke. Weโre back for more. Weโre wnst. Am 1570 Towson, Baltimore. We never stop talking Baltimore. Positive. You.