It’s just up the road in Pittsburgh at legendary Oakmont this year and our PGA pro Ed Miller of Pine Ridge Golf gives Nestor a U.S. Open preview as his Essex Father’s Day tradition rules on the course this Sunday.
Nestor Aparicio discusses the Maryland Crab Cake Tour, upcoming events, and local sports with Ed Miller of Classic Five Golf. They highlight the US Open at Oakmont, the proximity to Baltimore, and the appeal of golf. Ed talks about the condition of the greens, the affordability of Classic Five courses, and the benefits of junior golf camps. They reminisce about their local sports experiences and the accessibility of golf for all ages. Nestor promotes local golf courses and the upcoming BMW Championship at Caves Valley. They also discuss the appeal of golf as a lifetime sport and the community aspect of golfing.
SUMMARY KEYWORDS
US Open, Father’s Day, golf courses, Pine Ridge, Classic Five, junior camps, golf instruction, Maryland, Baltimore, golf leagues, golf tournaments, golf equipment, golf history, golf challenges, golf community.
SPEAKERS
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Ed Miller, Nestor Aparicio
Nestor Aparicio 00:01
Welcome home. We are W, N, S T. Am 1570 Towson, Baltimore. We are Baltimore positive. We’re positively getting the Maryland crab cake tour back out on the road. My next guest is due for a crab cake up here in the Towson Timonium area. Back to future scratch offs. On Friday, we will be at fade leaves, at Lexington market, the new Lexington market, the Angels of Anaheim, of California, of Orange County, are arriving. Of Mike Trout, Luke Jones will be joining us on Friday. Katie Pumphrey, incredible swimmer, is going to be coming by, talking some swimming, some art, with me on Friday. And then we are at the Y. Speaking of swimming, we’re going to be at the pool, which I might jump in the pool before it’s all over. We’re going to Y in Randallstown next Tuesday, doing a turn for Juneteenth. And our friends, John Hoey and everybody at the Y, we talked about doing this show for years and years and years. I’m looking forward to it. The pool is open for the summer. Maybe I get me a membership out of this thing before it’s all over with. I know one place you don’t need to be a member. And with golf on the tongue, Stanley Cup Finals, we had we had tennis, French Open. We have NBA Finals. We get the Orioles in last place. And that doesn’t matter. Belmont is over with now. And on Father’s Day weekend, we got golf. We got us open action right up the road. You can drive up there, go falling water. You can see Yen’s and not Don do the whole thing. Not, not often that the US Open gets this close at oakmonting. Ed Miller joins us here. He is with our friends at Classic five golf. He is at Pine Ridge. That’s the join up on Delaney Valley. Just go north up toward the water Bucha like beautiful. But you can go to Mount Pleasant. You can go to Carroll Park. You can go to to Clifton Park. You can go, I’m forgetting one. One might be forgetting RJ is going to kill me over in West Baltimore, Forest Park, baby. I forgot Forest Park. I’ll make sure I don’t forget that. So Ed Miller, is here. You’ve been on all five of the the luscious screen. How are the Greens doing? A lot of rain, dude. I mean, I, I don’t think anything’s burnt out on the greens, right?
Ed Miller 01:56
Oh no, no, sir. I think, I think, for the most part, all the golf courses in great shape. We’re almost caught up with the rain totals for the year. And you know, for the most part, it’s been a pleasant spring, our first hot week. So yeah, all the golf courses in great shape right now.
Nestor Aparicio 02:08
You’re trying to get me out to hit. I know you are. And I know, you know, you know, I like the sound of of a club hitting a ball. And you know when I when you hit it right? It feels good. I think I’m gonna get in Ocean City and work on a little putt, putt. There you go. Because I’m go. Because of my back, my all three male four. But here’s the worst part, and I told I did the show last week at Green mount station in Hampstead, and one of my guests was David Richardson. He runs the Maryland horseman association for in for jockeys, and not everybody, but jockeys, all the horsemen except the jockeys. So he’s got a bowling alley, he’s got duck pins, and he’s got 10 pins. I’m an old duck pin guy, and I swear I said to him, I can’t do the show in there, because I’m going to want to bowl. I’m going to want to grab a duck pin. I’m going to screw my back up. If I did a show from the batting cages with Mike bordick and Rick Dempsey down at the baseball I would want to get in there and swing. And I know if I come to Pine Ridge. I’m not going to stand around and watch people golf with if you golf and you see people with a club, or you watch it on the weekend, you want to come out and play. That’s that’s the beauty of your game, I think, for everybody that’s all worked up about BMW, and I am attending the press conference in two weeks for the caves Valley event, um, you know, this is the time of the year when you see it on TV and you see it, and you want to be it. If you’re a golf person, that
8Ed Miller 03:23
is absolutely correct, definitely in full swing. Now you’re right. You watch a little golf, and then normally, later that afternoon, you’re right out on the golf course of the driving range, because you gotta go try to do what you just saw on TV, especially
Nestor Aparicio 03:34
when the weather’s just good, right? I look out the window getting into the 80s this week, alright? So give me a primer on classic five and summer and leagues and kids and like all of that, little late, maybe or still on time, that if people want to come out and jump into a 6090 day little thing that they can get playing with you guys. No,
Ed Miller 03:55
definitely appreciate it. Nestor, but absolutely, the season’s really just kind of getting underway. You know, Memorial Day was just a couple weeks ago, and plenty of time for you to come out and join any league at any one of the five courses. We’re starting all our junior camps now, with schools getting out. So if you got little ones and you want to get them busy or start to teach them golf, yeah, sign them up. Especially out here at Pine Ridge, we have about six week long Junior camps coming up. Tell
Nestor Aparicio 04:18
8me what that costs, because I haven’t gone to the website, I don’t know, but let’s say my 11 year old niece was looking for something to do, and I’m a golfer, and I just want to get her out, because I love her, and I just want to take her out and teach her the game, see if she likes it. If she doesn’t like it, we won’t play. But maybe by the time she’s 15, I could have a best friend, and, you know, somebody to go out and play with a little bit. Again, I say this to all of you, whenever you all come on, RJ, all of you. I grew up in Colgate and Dundalk. I played a little tennis against the wall. We didn’t have any courts. We don’t need to play with golf is the ultimate. You can just show up and play. You don’t need a glove. You don’t need a team. You don’t need I mean, basketball, you can shoot hoops or whatever, but golf is something that you could do alone as you. Lonely boy like Andrew gold. What would a lonely boy? I was in the 70s, but my dad didn’t identify with golf. Couldn’t afford golf. Then think about golf, wasn’t he was into other things, boxing and just into a whole bunch of different things. But in the modern vernacular, you guys are incredible entry point all around the beltway, and it’s all you’ve ever done is classic five. It’s all these golf courses have ever been. They’re not Country Club Golf Courses. They’re for guys from Dundalk who want to learn how to play or take their 11 year old niece. Teacher, yes,
Ed Miller 05:29
sir. Hey, I’m from Essex, so I understand totally. You’re right. We like to think we’re a very affordable golf you know, so absolutely not like a country club. So it’s definitely, it’s a great starting point a couple of our layouts, including us Mount Pleasant, you know, we’re championship caliber Absolutely, and the rates go up a little bit. But as a regular person, we like to think that we provide affordable golf. And as we said, as you said, we definitely run tons of junior camps and classes. We have one day week long, whatever you want. Come on out and play it our you know, the week long ones are pretty popular. They start to sell out. But we do do a lot of individual ones. And the cool thing is, a week long,
Nestor Aparicio 06:07
my kid goes out five days, four days, plays golf all week, right? Okay,
Ed Miller 06:10
Monday through Friday, drop them off in the morning, pick them up in the evening, and and
8Nestor Aparicio 06:14
they’ve never touched the club. Even better,
Ed Miller 06:17
absolutely, a clean canvas, as they say, that’s the best way to do it. And we’ll provide all the clubs. You know, we’ll feed the kids while we’re out here. We’ll make sure they’re hydrated, but, you know, we want to start them young for sure, because that is the one neat thing about golf. And you know, listening to you, and I know you got to worry about some of your injuries, but Golf is a sport that you can play your whole life. And if you come out here every other Monday, on our senior day, you’ll see exactly what I’m talking about. My back
Nestor Aparicio 06:40
is getting stronger. Eddie it is. Ed Miller is here. He’s at Pine Ridge. He is classic five. That’s five courses all around town. You go to classic five golf, and you can learn all about the courses. There’s one right near you. I promise you, Pine Ridge happens to be the one nearest me. Mount Pleasant, not too far away, either, even Clifton Park. I get down to Cocos, and I passed those courses on the way down. US Open this week and the majors. And I haven’t talked to you in a couple of months less than we talked to you. Gusta, and you know, how are those pimento sandwiches? Did you figure that out? I
Ed Miller 07:13
8told you, like I said, I’ve seen it. I’ve had it the first year I went. But now we don’t do the pimento cheese sandwiches anymore. We go right to the Masters Club, $2.50
Nestor Aparicio 07:23
for a turkey sandwich. Can’t beat
Ed Miller 07:24
it, right? Absolutely, absolutely. How was it good? Always great this year. You know, the Masters was great. They had some great pairings the first couple days, and got to see our guys. You know, Scottie Scheffler, Rory McIlroy, all those guys up close. It’s how close do you get when you got within four feet of say. Scotty Scheffler, Bryson, DeChambeau, seventh hole, I remember that specifically, first love, first guys right up on the ropes. You know, so.
Nestor Aparicio 07:48
So when you fan boy these guys as a PGA pro yourself, and as someone that teaches people when you get fanboy on them, selfies, pictures, whatever that thing would be, but the game itself and watching the way they stroke the ball. Do you get anything different in person than you do on television as an instructor? Yeah,
8Ed Miller 08:08
yeah, absolutely. You know, you always pick up little things here and there, but you’re just the one thing that I laugh about is you’re just amazed at how far these guys hit the ball, you know, like it’s, I’ve been playing golf my whole life, and I’ve played with long hitters here and there. But when you get to that level, there’s definitely a difference when the ball just can’t
Nestor Aparicio 08:25
see anybody. Nobody hits the ball like that at Pine Ridge. Nobody, right? Very, very
Ed Miller 08:29
few, a couple, maybe, but nothing like what you see on TV, and when you see it in person, it’s even crazier. Yeah, absolutely. How far can you hit it? Oh, well, if it’s downwind, downhill, you know, I can get it out there about 275 280 but most of those guys will hit three wood that far on TV. So
Nestor Aparicio 08:46
8all you guys that run golf courses, it’s the biggest ruse. And it’s like me being a sports radio guy and saying, how much sports do you watch? Well, not as much as you think, because I only have so many hours in the day. You know what I mean? And like, I would say the same thing for you guys, everybody thinks, oh, golf pro, this that you don’t get to play for pleasure much at all to like, let’s say, How’s your game and whatever. Anytime I ever ask an instructor how their game is, they’re like, I lost it all. I worry about the other people’s games. I’m too busy looking at hand placement, looking at their body, looking at their feet, looking at how they’re flying it out. And now, with technology, they can look at it themselves. And I think that that’s the amazing part of golf, is that if you want to get better at golf, and this is my little snide comment for you, golf, the ball doesn’t move. You know what I mean? It’s not baseball, it’s not tennis, it’s not pickleball, even the ball doesn’t move. So it’s all on to you. You in the club and the wind and God and and I would say, for being able to do it the way you do it, and watching it training someone’s what it’s all about. It’s not about what your handicap is,
Ed Miller 09:49
right, correct, correct? And it’s, you know, like I said, the neatest part about it is you like to watch their progression. You like to see them improve. And then, you know, I’ve been in the golf business a long time. I’ve been a PGA professor. For 24 years, and, and you get to watch people from 20 years ago to today, and you get to see how their game is improved and, and obviously, how much they still play golf. So that part’s pretty neat. And like I said, I have, I have golfers out here that are in their mid 80s and still playing golf once or twice a week. So now, a game for a lifetime
Nestor Aparicio 10:16
gives me hope. It gives me a lot of hope. Ed Miller’s here. He’s with classic five. He’s up at Pine Ridge. How did you know I’m a Dundalk? I don’t think I’ve ever discussed this Essex thing with Rocky Point thing with you? Yes, yeah. I mean, if you’re from, I mean, everybody in Dundalk either played at Rocky Point or Sparrows Point. My neighbor, Mr. Frankie, every Sunday, we put his clubs in the back of the caprice classic wagon. He had and off he would go to Rocky Point and have a special little shoes out. And, you know, he would always say, one day, I’m going to take you out there and teach you how to play. Never did, but he played every Saturday and and, but Rocky Point was his place. But I mean to be really honestly, I’m Colgate, East Point, you know, where I’m from? East Point, Mall. You know, 1978 1982 1985 Where are you from in Essex? Give me a little background on how you found golf, because I do think people have to find it, and when they find that, they better find instruction, or they’re going to get really, really, they’re not going to stay with it. If you’re not hitting it, well, you won’t continue to hit it. You’re
Ed Miller 11:16
not having to chase balls. Yeah. I mean, I know the ball said still, but to me, it’s still the hardest sport in the world. You know, the ground is not flat, like a baseball field or a football field, but, you know, outside of that, you know, I was lucky, correct me, that’s why you’re the Pro. Yeah, we got hills, we got trees, we got point. You don’t have a tree in the middle of the football field, kind of, you know, as an obstruction, but we got them all over the place at a golf course, but
8Nestor Aparicio 11:38
I was trying to hit the strike zone, and everybody was chattering behind me. There’s no chattering on the golf course. Everything’s quiet now, right?
Ed Miller 11:44
Yeah, well, modern golf is getting a little bit different. I would say, you know, you hear a lot of music on the golf course now, which is kind of new, but you are right back in the day quiet. That’s the the other eerie part about golf is everybody gets quiet when you’re about to hit. Unlike other sports, you just kind of blend in with the noise. But golf, you hear the crickets. You know, everybody’s watching you. So it gets a little little bit more intimidating, I guess, in golf. But you know, as far as learning golf, I was pretty lucky. My dad actually played golf and kind of taught it to me. So I was one of the few kids that played golf. And as an Essex kid, I went to Kenwood High School, and I remember, you know, to make fun of it, but only six players needed for a golf team. But I think in my four years at Kenwood, we may have only had six people try out once, so not the most popular sport back in the late 80s, early 90s. I’m sure. Don
Nestor Aparicio 12:29
dog had a golf team too, and I, you know, and I just didn’t know about it, you know what I mean? Like, I didn’t play it. So I, I was too busy playing tennis, playing baseball, you know, like doing everything, right? Yeah? No,
Ed Miller 12:38
8I remember playing against Dundalk, Patapsco, all those places. So, yeah, yeah, my first job was actually as far as point 1988 car kid. So, you know, I was down in your neck of the woods.
Nestor Aparicio 12:47
Well, hey, man, every car I’ll ever Chase was skate lane and Essex. Then, you know, you know, like, literally, right? And so Dundalk and Essex, we don’t have any part of each other, but we’re kind of all the same, just a bridge and a poop plant between us, right? Yeah, yeah, exactly. So how old were you when you first grabbed the club?
Ed Miller 13:02
I have pictures of me at, like, four years old, my dad. Man, now, what
Nestor Aparicio 13:07
was about the game for your father? Tell me about your father.
8Ed Miller 13:10
Well, my father was actually a military guy, and him and his friends, they like to just get out and play golf on the weekends. It was definitely their their unwinding and like, like, I tell a lot of other people, you know, obviously they’re in the military, but they played other sports when they were younger. But when you start getting into your mid 20s and late 20s, and you know, you’re not playing basketball anymore, you’re not playing baseball anymore. So if you want to have some fun and do a sport, you know, Golf was kind of it. Ironically, my dad loved bowling and golf, that was his two sports, so I grew up doing some duck bin myself, and, you know, eventually in the golf so,
Nestor Aparicio 13:41
I mean, as an Essex guy, I bowl the best game of my life at the Middlesex lane. Spent, you know, saying, like, I listen when I was a kid, and everybody thinks of me Dundalk, right? Because I’m in the Dundalk Hall of Fame, Dundalk and I heritage fair and Dundalk and all that. The first 12 years of my life. I thought I lived in Essex when I went to Memorial Stadium. In the 70s, people ask me where from? I’m like, East Point. It’s kind of like the Essex exit kind of, sort of, but we had a highland town post, 21224, and Dundalk didn’t come into my world until the 80s, when they told me, Oh, you’re going to Dundalk high because I spent and I’m wearing blue today, my Raskin global. I spent all of my childhood thinking I was going to be a bluebird. My mother went to Kenwood. My my uncle went to Kenwood. Every neighbor I had, older brother and sister went to Kenwood. My neighbor was a Kenwood feeder. So you and I would have known each other earlier in life. Uh, had we been there and I probably still wouldn’t have been golfing, I’d be like, Who’s this Miller guy, crazy guy on a golf team with three players, because so I’m not crazy in saying when I talk about classic five and I talk about golf in general, you being Essex, me being Dundalk, it was not something that came to us in our childhood, other than on TV with Jack Nicklaus and Arnold Palmer, right, like,
Ed Miller 14:51
you know, correct, absolutely. You know, most of my friends didn’t even know what a golf club was back in high school.
Nestor Aparicio 14:56
8Well, it’s so easy. It’s out at Pine Ridge, if. Love golf, if you want to get involved in golf. And I see adults all the time that they’re not going to go into batting cages if they never played baseball or softball, you know, maybe they like a boat or do something, but if they want to, to your point, participate in an adult sport, this is the gateway to Pickleball. I’m going to tell all you that if you go out and start playing golf Ed’s out there, give me a little US Open. Look, because, um, you like the majors. Everyone likes the majors. This is the one major close to home. I guess it’s maybe the third time since I’ve been on the radio that they played at Oakmont. Uh, back when Tiger was burning it up. I had a whole bunch of people going up to Pittsburgh trying to find everybody’s got a relative for somebody they know in Pittsburgh, crash on a couch up there somewhere. Or you could even day trip it and get up and back. I do that for football all the time. You know, close to home, this is, this is one where I’m expecting you to beg off the golf course on Saturday or Sunday, go up there for a day.
Ed Miller 15:49
Well, one of the neat things about the US Open is it always finishes on Father’s Day weekend. So I would say, you know, growing up, I used to always watch the Masters with my dad. And then as I’ve gotten older, we always watch the final round together still, you know, I’m lucky. My dad’s still around so, and it always finishes on Father’s Day. So we’ll be there, and we’ll be there together, kicking it and watching a little bit of the US Open. And the fact that it’s at Oakmont this year is pretty neat. You know, it’s one of the, one of the more historic golf courses that they go, one of the hardest, best golf courses in the world. And you know, the fact that, like you said, it’s a three hour ride away. It’s, uh, it’s over 100 year old golf course.
Nestor Aparicio 16:23
It’s even on this side of Pittsburgh. For you, I have to get too close
Ed Miller 16:27
to enemy territory if you want to go watch the US opens. But whenever I
8Nestor Aparicio 16:31
go to Pittsburgh for, you know, football games, whenever I go in, you see the sign Oakmont. You know it’s like between mentors or Monroeville in the city. You see the exit. Now, I’m always thinking, Ah, they crown champions there. It’s not far from Mr. Rogers house, too. So you can do
Ed Miller 16:46
it. Jennifer, yeah, the new his new neighborhood. You mean, right, yeah,
Nestor Aparicio 16:49
Mr. Rogers Neighborhood, yeah. Fred Rogers, all right, that’s what I’m talking about. You
Ed Miller 16:54
8know, yeah, no, but Oakmont should be great. It should be a tough, tough test. Uh, probably won’t. You know, the regular golfers, or average golfers, love watching the US Open when it’s set like Oakmont or Shinnecock, because there will not be too many pros under par. I believe winning scores should be close to par. I bet. So, yeah,
Nestor Aparicio 17:11
well, in the challenge of all of these, and you talked about being on the course down in August a couple weeks ago, the challenge of these courses for these professionals when we’re talking about, you know, majors, the course itself is just something that is a tiger, not to use expression, right? Yeah,
Ed Miller 17:28
absolutely. And ironically, that course is one of the courses they wanted to be hard. They’re famous. They’ve had a good 20 national championships in its history. When you you include the US Open, the US amateur, the PGA Championship, to women’s open. So it’s pretty much built for major championship golf, so should be a great test. All right, get
Nestor Aparicio 17:47
everybody out to Pine Ridge. Tell them what they got going on. Tell them how to find you. Get off the beltway, come north. And the one thing I say about Pine Ridge, you go to other courses like you’re Carol Park, your Carroll Park. You see downtown from where you are, if you’re at Mount Pleasant, you look, you can see what used to be Memorial Stadium. Maybe stadium. Maybe you see Montebello, you see the city or whatever. But you’re in Pine Ridge. You could be in western you could be you’re in a forest kind of, sort of right, like, literally, it is. It’s five minutes from the beltway, but it is tucked away even the entrance road. You need to get an Uber from the front door to get up, up up the hill, to get where you are, because it is tucked away, and it’s, um, you will forget your day if you’re a Pine Ridge, I promise you,
8Ed Miller 18:27
yeah, absolutely, you’ll forget everything. Because once you get out here, you’re you’re out in nature. It’s like its own little oasis, like you said, five minutes from the beltway. But as soon as you get halfway up the entrance, say bye to civilization and welcome to nature. You know, great golf course. See all the animals out here. You know, have a great time. Busiest golf course around. So it’s fun. It’s a come hang out with us all day. And yeah, you you’ll enjoy it, and you’ll forget about all the stresses of work. And
Nestor Aparicio 18:53
if you’re from Essex or Dundalk, see Ed, because he knows he knows our type. He knows we’re from. He knows you pick the golf club. You talk about, like bad habits and learning. It took me two summers once I got lessons from norm Bukowski down at furnace Creek, ranch, golf, whatever the hell that was in Glen Burnie, 31 years ago. It was the elbow. It was it was like me wanting to hold it like a tennis racket, or like a baseball bat with my elbow in, yeah. I mean, it just took me months and months. Every week I would go out and practice, and I would torque my elbow, torque my elbow, keeping that right arm locked as a right handed person, and and just I would do a golf guys like you do. I’d be practicing my shadow swing in the elevator, you know, just trying to keep my arms down and trying to keep my head down, because head arms lock. That’s the hardest thing in the world. If you’ve been playing baseball and watching or tennis and moving to a ball, the fact that the ball doesn’t move is its own restriction. Yeah,
Ed Miller 19:55
absolutely. And the fact your body’s not really moving a whole lot, it’s a lot of twisting. But. Tell you, no running, no jumping ball sitting still. It’s amazing that it’s still a hard sport.
Nestor Aparicio 20:04
8All right. Well, if you’re if you’re going up to Oakmont this week, you can go to Northumberland Street in Squirrel Hill and see the Mister Rogers Neighborhood House on the way up. So I would encourage you know, if you love golf and you don’t have to go as far with the BMW coming here in a couple weeks now, have you wiped out that weekend at Pine Ridge to go and see the pros do their thing couple weeks now,
Ed Miller 20:27
definitely planning on getting to the BMW at least one day. Probably not. The weekend gets a little hectic, but I’ll be there Thursday or Friday for sure. Gotta check it out and see all the changes they made at caves over the last two years as well.
Nestor Aparicio 20:38
Well, it is coming up the press conference is the week after next for the BMW championship on what’s going on here. It is August 14 through the 17th. So I guess that week I’m gonna have all you guys on talking about it, because we’re gonna be a golf city in the middle of August. So I know one thing, Ed, there’s not gonna be a pennant race around here at this point. So we’re gonna need something to do in August besides preseason football, Ed Miller is a PGA pro. He has been for 20 some odd years. His games better than my game. He will be watching the US Open with his dad this weekend. It’s Father’s Day weekend. So I I’ve had a whole Father’s Day thing out on the front of the website right now that I want to promote with authors, because I’m an author myself, and had a lot of authors on the last two weeks. If you’re thinking about a book for Dad, we got books on Earl Weaver, we got books on Tom Mattie. We got books on the bird tapes and John Eisenberg. So I’ve been going through that the last couple of weeks as well. So if you got a dad, and I’ve lost all three of mine during the course of my life, take care of dad this weekend. Watch some golf, take him out to the ballpark, do something nice with him, and we will see you at a classic five I would encourage everyone to support our friends at Classic five golf here locally, with five courses around the beltway. And if you can’t come see Ed, go see RJ over the west side of Forest Park. Get down to Mount Pleasant get over to Carroll Park. Get over to Clifton Park and support some local golf here this week. As the weather gets better, don’t sit in the house playing video games. Right? Absolutely,
Ed Miller 21:56
absolutely. Thank you again, Nestor, but yeah, let’s get out everybody out on the golf course this summer. And
8Nestor Aparicio 22:01
whatever you do, no pickleball, don’t. Don’t start me with the pickleball. Yeah, I am Nestor. We are wnst. Am 1570 Towson, Baltimore, and we never stop talking pickleball golf Baltimore, positive, the stuff we do when the Orioles are in last place, it’s terrible. Well.
