Ways to be supportive locally in fighting antisemitism globally

With the recent rise in horrific antisemitism and acts of violence, we seek peace, conversation and knowledge. Howard Libit of the Baltimore Jewish Council joins us to to discuss fighting antisemitism and ways folks can be supportive locally and globally.

Nestor Aparicio discusses addressing antisemitism, mentioning recent incidents like the attempted firebombing of the Pennsylvania governor’s house and the shooting outside the Jewish Museum in DC. Howard Libit of the Baltimore Jewish Council emphasizes the importance of combating hate speech and violent rhetoric, noting the rise in antisemitic incidents. They also discuss the Elijah Cummings Youth Program in Israel, which fosters black-Jewish relations. The conversation concludes with a brief discussion on the Baltimore Orioles’ performance and future prospects.

SUMMARY KEYWORDS

Antisemitism, Baltimore Jewish Council, Howard Libit, Holocaust education, interfaith relations, Elijah Cummings youth program, Israel advocacy, hate speech, community support, Baltimore immigration summit, Jewish community, Maryland crab cake tour, baseball discussion, Orioles performance, security measures.

SPEAKERS

Howard Libit, Nestor Aparicio

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Nestor Aparicio  00:01

Welcome home. We are W, N, S, T. Am 1570 task Baltimore. We are Baltimore positive. And I am taking the Maryland crab cake tour back out on the road 16 different crab cake tour stops this summer, including our 27th anniversary. Brought to you by friends at curio wellness. We’re going to be out the entire month of August, celebrating 27 of my favorite meals in 27 days. But before there, we got a lot of crab cakes to get. We’re going to be at fade least next Friday, on the 13th, because I don’t believe in unluck or lucky. Luke Jones will be lucky enough to be joining me and the angels will be in town. I will have scratch offs from the Maryland lottery. Be Back to the Future scratch offs. I’d be giving those away. I did have a $5 winner that was nice enough to text me over the weekend from our green mount station pursuits last week. We’re also getting to readers. Crab house up in Reyes town. We’re going to be at the Y in Randallstown, at the pool there, Juneteenth week. I’m really looking forward to that. That’s on the 17th, and then into July. We’re going to be at 1623, brewing and also the new location. We’re gonna be in Timonium Acosta’s the new cost is no crabs, only crab cakes in the grandstand there. We’ll be doing that with Johnny, oh, some congressman, Johnny, oh, shit, ski of the East Side doing that Acosta. It’s not the Dundalk cost us that there’s now a Timonium Costas. I mean, who knew there can be a fade leaves in Catonsville soon. This guy knows east side, west side, and he’s been here a long, long time. He is a former newspaper editor right around when I got out of the business. He’s also worked in PR and lobbying and all sorts of things. He is now the executive director at the Baltimore Jewish Council. He is a repeat offender here on this year program of Baltimore, positive we’ve had him on at various points through the years. But Howard Levitt, I want to, you know, I would have you want about baseball, but baseball, you know, we’ll get to that momentarily. But the anti semitism piece that I wanted to bring you on, and I know we have discussed this several different times the last couple of weeks, specifically on my social media, I put some Venezuelan content up because I am Venezuelan and a Venezuelan background. When my son said to me a couple of weeks ago, he lives in the east side of town in what is now an all Hispanic neighborhood that was all Archie Bunker’s very, very white racist Dundalk in the 1970s when I lived there, it’s not all people of my background, of the central, essential American and Hispanic background. And my son said to me, Howard, that the people in the neighborhood live like Anne Frank, right? The kind of startled me, and he’s like, everybody shades are pulled down. Everybody’s Hispanic. And so I put a piece up about Venezuelans, and a one specific Venezuelan young activist who was jailed The New York Times wrote about that last week, and someone came on and said, Why don’t you do more on anti semitism? And I said, I put an anti Nazi thing up on my page. All Facebook has pulled three or four of them down. Pull one of them down specifically with the Volkswagen postings the day that must put the Teslas out in front of the White House with whatever you want to call the current president. So Howard, I just want to say I feel like I’ve been pretty active, and anyone that knows me knows how I feel. I toured the Anne Frank House last year, and it ended my Amsterdam experience for a good period of time, and then days thereafter, I want to give you some oxygen for what you’re doing here locally, I’ve been in every synagogue in the city, I think, at one point or another, several recently. I, you know, I could sit here and say, you know, I have Jewish friends, of course, I do, you know, business owners and all sorts like I want to do whatever my part is, and I wanted to start with you. And just saying, this is all. All of this hatred is completely unacceptable. It sort of starts at the top of 75 million people voting for someone that is sort of allowed it to be okay to be rude, let alone awful things. And what’s happened the last couple of weeks here, it’s, it’s sickened me, and I want to bring you on, and I want to talk about whatever I can do, whatever we can do

Howard Libit  04:14

to help. That’s all I want to help. I mean, you know, I think to, you know, you go to the fire the the attempted fire bombing of the Pennsylvania governor’s house in over Passover in April, and then you have this awful shooting outside the Jewish Museum in DC. Who are people who are attending a Jewish American Heritage? Beautiful, young couple too, right? Yeah, young couple. One, no, you know, wonderful couple. And like, the kind of event where I’ve gone to those kinds of events in DC, and my staff member, one of my staff members, was invited to go, and didn’t be just because her back was bothering her and she didn’t feel like, you know, schlepping down to DC and then, and then this event last this, this March, this this past Sunday, where I. People are peacefully marching for the release of the hostages. No other agenda beyond that, and some guy literally tries to Burn them alive. It’s I could still have trouble getting my mind wrapped around that, which is why, like, well, we’re

Nestor Aparicio  05:16

good people. We envisioning this kind of hatred is really anti anything we can be associated with. You know, absolutely,

Howard Libit  05:25

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and I got to be clear, like I respect those people who are out there protesting the actions of the Israeli government and wanting, you know, to protect Palestinians, right? I may agree with them, I may disagree with them. Totally respect it, but I think my worry is some of these protests, and we’ve seen it, the level of violent rhetoric has picked up. And when you’re talking when you say things like Death to Israel, or kill the Jews, or things like that, there are, you know, people on the extremes who take that literally. And I think we all need to look in the mirror and look at the and think about the type of rhetoric we’re using and tone it down, because unfortunately, violent rhetoric can produce violence among some people, even if most of the people there have no intention of it being violent. We, we’ve, we’ve created a culture where we just say things more aggressively and more violently than we ever have, and that that really worries me. Um, you know, we have, we’ve had since October of 23 a similar march to what they’ve had in Boulder, Colorado. And most weeks, there’s, you know, 30 or 35 people who show up at the same synagogue every Sunday morning at nine, and they take, like a like a one mile march around around the neighborhood with signs and calling for the release of the hostages. It’s their dedication. It’s making sure the hostage won’t be forgotten. You know that that suddenly becomes scarier when you see an event like Colorado, like it could have happened here. We’re going to turn out in big numbers to to support them, to support that March and show we’re not going to be intimidated. We can’t be. I keep hearing from people, if it’s safe to go to a Jewish event, whether it’s inside or outside, and we can’t let we can’t let a few the crazy violence stop us. We just as a society, we can’t whether it’s the Jewish community or the Latino community, or the black community, or any of the all of these events, we have to make sure we have the level of security to make sure we are safe and that we feel safe.

Nestor Aparicio  07:29

Howard libb is my guest. He is a multiple time guest here. He’s comes from the journalism space and the editor. And you know, I’ve with the death of Jim Henneman. I’ve had so many media buddies on the last couple of weeks, and I was just, you’re a little younger than me. You came along maybe, like a year after I left the sun or the same I left in early 92

Howard Libit  07:50

I got there in summer of 94 Okay,

Nestor Aparicio  07:53

so you were two and a half years behind, yeah, a couple years behind you. I would just say this, and you were a young man when you got there. I was a young man when I left right. And I would say the the ability to be a journalist and to have the background, and these grown ups, all these people are older than me now, they’re all here, and I’ve done what I’ve done with my life, but I said I couldn’t have done any of it without the who, why, what, when, where, and I, I, quite frankly, call it a you know, I had bullshit detectors around me every minute of my life as a young man to know what was right, what was wrong, what was fact, what was fiction, what was truth and what was a lie, and how to work

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Howard Libit  08:33

that out, work on how to work on a deadline and write clearly on a deadline so that people could understand all of that is just So and how

Nestor Aparicio  08:40

to communicate. But that’s beyond being a writer and all that. I’m talking about the things I was writing, you know, not, not frozen and and, and commas and, you know, which takes the common that doesn’t and like that. I’m talking about being able to put something with a byline on and say, this is true because I wrote it and it’s my father’s reading it and my audience is reading it. It it has to be true, because it has my name on it, and that has served me so well, especially as I’ve gotten older,

Howard Libit  09:08

everyone see too, you know, like just being correct, right? If you’re writing a high school sports story, like, you want to make sure you get that that kid’s first name, right, because that may be the only time they appear in the paper, and you don’t want to get there, you know, you don’t want to misspell their name or give them the wrong first name or mix them up. But same thing with writing even a simple obituary. Attention

Nestor Aparicio  09:27

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to detail. Howard attention to detail, right? Exactly. So I want to have attention to detail. What you do as the executive director at the Baltimore Jewish Council, familiar with the associated I mean, familiar with events. I’m obviously familiar with some of the things you do. But if you pin me down and offer me a million dollars and say, answer exactly what we do at the Baltimore, I don’t think I could do that. So I want to give you the oxygen to let people know what you you do. There’s a hole, I mean, on your website, there’s a whole thing on antiSemitism. This is at the core. And I think the last time I had you on maybe after Pittsburgh. And what happened up there years ago, that there’s this is one of the many, many, many things you do, you

Howard Libit  10:06

know, I, I’ve, I’ve, I don’t think I told this story last time, but if I did, it’s been a while like when I started. So I started this position nine years ago, and just before I started, the board, leadership had kind of identified the priority areas to be working in and they, you know, Israel education advocacy. We do, we do Holocaust education and commemorates and run a survivor speakers bureau and and, you know, do a lot, do a lot there. You

Nestor Aparicio  10:32

speak matter of factly, but this is all a lot of

Howard Libit  10:35

stuff. There’s a lot of stuff we do on behalf of the Jewish community at the state, local, federal level, we do interfaith relations. What wasn’t on the list back before, right when I started, was like, anti semitism. I mean, yes, there was some, it was out there. And yes, it was like, when something came up, we would deal with it, but it wasn’t such an all consuming issue that, like, we needed our own staff person, or we needed to to make it a priority, because, like, anti semitism wasn’t solved, but it wasn’t like it was and then we

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Nestor Aparicio  11:07

weren’t having people murdered in the streets that we’re seeing right now. Like, really 2017

Howard Libit  11:12

and the the march in Charlottesville kind of really set things off, and kind of created that whole environment. And then, and and then, you know, we could tick off the things, the Pittsburgh Tree of Life, shooting, the the attack, attacks. And across, you know, in San Diego, there was, remember, there was the synagogue in Texas where the rabbi was held hostage all day. And now we’ve got this, you know, we had the college campuses the last couple years, and what’s been happening there. And, you know, and helping to support I spend a lot of time, particularly not this most recent school year, but the school year before, really working with our our Hillels on our campuses, and the campus administrations, trying to get them to take things seriously. This this past year was a lot better. Um, so that’s that was, well,

Nestor Aparicio  11:56

that’s interesting to hear, because the Gaza situation and the hostages and certainly inflamed everything,

Howard Libit  12:03

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no question. But I I’ll give the college administration’s credit, like when in the spring of, spring of 24 when we had the like the long running encampment at Hopkins and at Goucher, I think the administrations there were caught off guard, like the encampment sprouted up and it was there and it became entrenched, and they didn’t know how to deal with it in a way that wasn’t going to create terrible scenes on television like we saw at Columbia or UCLA, and we didn’t. No one wanted that. But this year, I

Nestor Aparicio  12:32

was on Towson on a day when Dr Ginsberg was getting introduced, and there was a protest, and all the cameras were there, and everyone was on edge, about to your point, the possibilities of a combustible situation forever, yeah,

Howard Libit  12:47

but you gotta just act quickly and decisively. So like this spring, when there was an effort to restart an encampment at Hopkins, like the law enforcement at Hopkins, it started like the group came out at 5am by 6am the Hopkins law enforcement had removed it and had yanked down the tent when the people wouldn’t do it, and then when they came back, they took it down again. They’re like, don’t let it get started. And they’ve done a good job of protecting the Jewish students and faculty and respecting their space and respecting the First Amendment rights of everybody, but saying there’s a time and a place and a manner for protests, like, you can’t be disruptive of kids learning you can’t make it, make it threatening to walk across central areas of the campus if you’re Jewish. And they’ve, they’ve addressed that a lot better. It’s not perfect. It’s never going to be perfect. But part of our effort is to advocate there in a lot of ways. And it’s, it’s and ultimately, the only way we’re going to get to it is by building deeper relationships and educating people about hate. One of the programs I’m proudest of that we work with that’s part of our portfolio is the Elijah Cummings youth program in Israel, which is a two year fellowship in which a dozen students, mostly students of color, who either attend school or go to school or go to school in Elijah’s original congressional district, are picked. They spend two years learning together, the summer between their junior and senior year. They spend a month in Israel. We work with them to build relationships with other Jewish Jewish students. And it’s about building black Jewish relations. It was one of the most important things that you know. Elijah Cummings said it all the time, one of the most important of the most important things he did, he devoted himself to the program. When he was alive, every student was interviewed by him. He put his like speaking honorary or went to support the program. This was one of his crowning achievements. Was to build a build out a cohort of now, you know, over, you know, several 100 kids who have been through the program in in over 25 years, who are proud graduates of the fellowship and bring forth an understanding of of the importance of building relationships with communities and being ambassadors to the world. So

Nestor Aparicio  14:56

I say, what is the Baltimore Jewish country? It’s we’re evolving. You know, there’s all. Something you know that always something different and that you’re trying to do. And Howard limit is our guest. We’re going to get to some baseball in a minute here. The topic was anti semitism, but also the topic is just free speech and activism and what’s right and wrong in this country and and I think we can all agree, locking up students and threatening students and throwing them out of the country, no matter who they are or what their background, their ethnicity, what their beliefs are. What’s going on here is mortifying in on lots and lots of levels, and it’s reached you to your point, the extremes across all areas that need to be tamped down by what we’re saying, what we’re allowing, what we’re doing.

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Howard Libit  15:42

I mean, you know, speaking to, you know, you were talking about, at the beginning, about the Latino communities of East Baltimore, you know, having to hide in their homes because of what’s going on. You know, this or in May, was the annual Baltimore immigration Summit. We’ve been, you know, proudly been a sponsor of that for years, because, you know, the Jewish community we were, we were immigrants once too, as we were coming over from, either after the Holocaust or earlier, from Eastern Europe. And that’s, that’s all part, that’s part of all of our shared experiences. And you know, going to this most recent summit and hearing the stories of what’s happening across our more you know, our communities of more recent immigrants was, I don’t know if the right words terrifying or profoundly disturbing, and to hear the fear that people are living in Super worrisome, because, you know, people are coming here just to make a better lives for themselves and their children, and we Need to find ways to support that.

Nestor Aparicio  16:41

Yeah, I was in Orlando, Florida. My brother lives in Orlando. My brother was born in Venezuela. My what my, my half brother has been here quarter of a century. He’s, he’s a citizen, you know, he and his wife own businesses. They have children in college in Florida. And I went down just for a day to Epcot, goof around, and I didn’t even, you know, I had, I had Uber drivers, right? Three Uber drivers, all three Uber drivers of Venezuelan. And my brother basically said the city of Kissimmee is all Venezuelan. And I mean, the girl that checked me into the hotel, she was Venezuelan. Every Uber everybody’s Venezuelan, and I’m Venezuelan. So I begin to, you know, I tell them I’m from arakaba, and they tell me I’m crazy, because everybody from arakabo was crazy. And was crazy. And, you know, they has a reputation of being bohemian or something, also good crabs too. You know, Lake maracaibos were a lot of crab cultures, so, um, but I had a man Uber me, and he was older than me. I’m 56 I would say he’s late 60s, between 65 and 70. And he was driving me in his English was good. He said he was from Caracas. I asked him how long asked him how long he’d been here. He said he got here and, you know, 2016 1516, has been here 10 years and and he looked at me in the rear view mirror, because he’s talking to me as he’s driving, and he said to me, we are not migrant people. I left my home at 55 years of in I’m like, oh shit, that’s my age. And he said, Chavez came and took everything and threatened everyone. And he said, Now I’m here, and Trump’s doing the exact same thing. And I can’t express to people that, do you think I it was never my dream to come to America. I was 55 years old, living my life, and our government got overtaken, and everything was taken from us. That’s why I’m here, driving you in an Uber,

Howard Libit  18:29

you know. I’ve heard that story, you know. You hear that story all over the world. I mean, I’ll give you a, you know, a parallel example that when, when you know, many years you know, generation ago, when, when Israel was was founded. There were thriving Jewish communities all across many of the Arab countries in the Middle East, and in most cases, all of the Jews were either jailed or told to leave. I mean, you just, you have changes in government like that that make it inhospitable for certain people. And you we all have to have to have a home to go to.

Nestor Aparicio  19:01

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Yeah, America, beacon of light, shining light, the whole deal. Howard limit is here. I’m getting upset. I’m sorry. We’re getting heavy. What we do around here, Baltimore Jewish Council, what is the associated while we do this? And then we’re going to talk baseball, and that’s good. It’s going to give not going to be worse, but it’d be pretty bad, although they’ve won a bunch of lately. Yeah, I say Tony mancillino, you start smiling all of a sudden.

Howard Libit  19:27

So the associated is the broader Jewish Federation of Baltimore. It does the fundraising across the the agencies. So like, there are partner member partner agencies of the associated, we’re one of them, the Baltimore Jewish Council. The two JCCs are the Jewish Museum. Is the pearlstone center, the environmental retreat center up in reistertown. It’s a beautiful place to go visit. Chi, which does a lot of housing work to kind of keep Northwest Baltimore thriving. Jewish Community Services, which provides critical. Services to everything from Holocaust survivors to people with disabilities to just people who need help, not just Jewish open to all. So there’s a bunch of so and the good news of the way the associated structure works, which is a rarity among Jewish communities, is the associated handles the fundraising and then distributes allocations to all the member agencies. So I don’t have to go out and fundraise. I don’t have to have a development team on my staff. I’m able to do the work, which is, you know, means, you know, my my peers in other communities, half their time or more spent raising money. I don’t have that distraction which, which means we can be more effective than ever and more efficient than ever. How

Nestor Aparicio  20:44

can people help? What can they do for you at the Baltimore Jewish council

Howard Libit  20:47

so well, the associated would kill me if I didn’t say, first of all, you could give to the campaign. The campaign ends, June 30. If you haven’t yet made your pledge, hurry. Feel free. But more importantly, maybe not more importantly, but just as important, stand up. Show up. You know, if you, if you see an opportunity to to stand, not just with the Jewish community, with some other community that’s facing hate, um, stand with them. Don’t allow it. If you hear it, if you see it, say that’s not right. Don’t jump in and tell the when someone’s telling the jokes that you think sound offensive, call them out on it, and make sure that you know if that your neighbors feel supported, we’re all I think most people don’t want to be thought, don’t, don’t, don’t want to be anti semitic, or don’t want to be anti whatever group, and I recognize most of much of the anti semitism or anti black hatred, or whatever is done not out of hate, but ignorance. So like, learn and get better. Because we all want to just create a place where we all want to be in partnership, in community together.

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Nestor Aparicio  21:55

I always say, travel a little bit. Just travel a little bit. You’ll Yes, that’s it? Yes. Mark Twain, you gave me that right? Baseball. I don’t know. Where do you want to go with this? You want to go with Mike Elias for $100 or Brandon Hyde for 200 or you want to go David Einstein for 500 Where do you want to go?

Howard Libit  22:17

I feel, still feel bad about Brandon Hyde, like he wasn’t out there. You know, not driving the runner in from second with nobody out, right? He didn’t pick the groceries. I mean, he didn’t operate on all these guys arms. Yeah, I Right. I mean, I it’s, you know, how do you what can your expectations be when, like, you know, three quarters of your starting rotation doesn’t start, you know, is injured within the first month and Richmond hitting the buck 88 you know, he started, he started hitting last few days. My God. I mean, Honor has him on her fantasy baseball team, so she’s feeling good the last the last few days. About that? Well,

Nestor Aparicio  22:52

I’m rooting for all of them, because I’m rooting for all of us. But it certainly was a lot more fun the last two years than whatever the last eight weeks has been. I Yeah,

Howard Libit  23:00

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it’s like, yeah. I mean, what do you judge? What do you judge Mark Michael, Michael Elias on the two years where there’s been great success, or this first two months of this season, where things have slid, I mean, and I haven’t seen it like, Corbin burns. What’s, what’s the verdict on his arm from, uh, from the other day we got hurt. I haven’t heard like, well, the verdict is,

Nestor Aparicio  23:17

Arizona owes him two, $30 million so that’s, you know that at the beginning of the end, that’s it. I didn’t

Howard Libit  23:22

hear the result. I saw, I saw him like, come off. I was watching it happening, watching that game, and saw him come off the mound. Hurt. It’s

Nestor Aparicio  23:30

just like asking about my ex girlfriend. It’s like, it’s not here anymore. I can’t do it. Howard, you know? I mean not my money. I mean I’m, you know what? I’m worried about who the opening day started next year is going to be, and I’m worried about who’s picking the groceries now. And you mentioned Elias. I think he’s great at scouting. I don’t think he’s been great at identifying major league talent or trades. The Tyler O’Neill thing’s been bad. The Gibson thing was bad. Chicano, fine. You know, that’s, that’s, that’s good. Need more of that. But in a general sense, the the notion that these young players have to perform. Westberg got to get back. He’s got to hit the mayo her stat. These guys, four or five, six of these guys that are going to be the lineup need to blossom and be the lineup, and they need to be very, very Deft and true with what they’re doing the next eight weeks in regard to deals and what they’re really solidifying for next year, because I don’t know that they’re going to buy pitching. I don’t know that it’s even good for them to buy pitch. But

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Howard Libit  24:28

now the Kittredge is healthy again. Kittress is like, a pretty good find, pretty good signing, right? I’m

Nestor Aparicio  24:32

good with all of that. I’m still a five starter guy, you know, like I and even if Grayson Rodriguez radish is trending in the direction of being able to come back later on this year. Eflin won’t be here next year, right? Chicano would have to be under contract. I’m interested in the maneuverings they’re going because once you’re 18 games under 500 you can go battle and the young players and seeing the development of all of that. But I do think. There’s going to be some dealing in six, seven weeks here that could help fortify and make them better next year and right?

Howard Libit  25:06

Some of those, some of those guys on contracts that are going to be expiring, or whatever, there’s, you know, do you have an extra outfield or two? Does? Does Mullins go to a contender? I’d hate to see him go. But like, Well, we

Nestor Aparicio  25:17

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said that about Mancini, right? And Lopez couple years ago, like those were good deals that were made.

Howard Libit  25:22

Yeah, although I did, did Lopez, I heard Lopez just got cut again, didn’t he? Well, right? We got stuff for him at the time, though, yes,

Nestor Aparicio  25:31

we got Kate Povich, and we got your Cano like that, and we got Lopez back if we wanted him for five minutes. Remember that? I

Howard Libit  25:38

yeah, he didn’t. He did not. He panned out as about as well as as the starter. We picked up again this earlier this season. In

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Nestor Aparicio  25:47

the end, for this to work, Richmond Henderson, holiday, westburg and and cows are right. And then throw curse that mayo in the side pocket. And then there’s beside Oh, and those people coming in as Buck would say, those are your pile divers. You know, it’s not Laureano. It’s not, you know, it’s, it’s none of that. It’s who’s going to be someone

Howard Libit  26:08

like Urias is a great piece to have to help. But like, you know, between Urias and Mateo, like, what do you, you know are, is one of those guys tradable? I don’t know. Oh

Nestor Aparicio  26:19

boy. Howard Levitt is here. He’s still loving the Orioles. He still has his bobble. What’s your favorite bobblehead? Do you have 100 of them up there? What’s the one you

Howard Libit  26:29

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love? I you know there’s a there’s a Steve. Steve Pierce, one that’s kind of fun. Okay,

Nestor Aparicio  26:34

all right, you’re for the underdog.

Howard Libit  26:39

Steve Pierce, it was, he was, he was fun guy to have around for a bit.

Nestor Aparicio  26:42

I’m a guy that loved Chico Simone and, you know, Tom Cho pay and Kiko Garcia, you know. I mean, I was a Gary Renick guy, although he was a better player than them. But I, I’ve never, was never front runner. I was never a big Brooks fan in the 70s, because all my friends wore Brooks jerseys. And I was like, you know, maybe I’m gonna be a Lee may guy. You know, that’s kind of the way I was, Howard. So there you go. I can appreciate that. I’m an underdog guy. Howard limit is here. He is with the Baltimore Jewish Council, and we’ve been discussing anti semitism amongst a whole bunch of things they do, government relations, Holocaust remembrance, Israel advocacy and education, community relations, leadership, development, security and the very important and affirmation, I appreciate you educating me the Elijah Cummings youth program. You can look more about what they do at Bolt jc.org, and you can find Howard anywhere out at a baseball game. You guys still go to a lot of games, right?

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Howard Libit  27:35

So I’ve had a Sunday season ticket package that started with just two tickets before my kids were born, then extended to three, and then is now four, and we’ve been we go virtually every Sunday. Oh, your kids. I have a friend, a kid who just finished his freshman year of college, and my other one’s finishing up her junior year in high school.

Nestor Aparicio  27:52

So this is the thing. What I would say baseball. It’s such a family thing, right? Like in your family, you’re like, This is what we do once we go to baseball.

Howard Libit  27:59

My daughter is sometimes we would think of her as the biggest baseball fan, where she’ll like tell us, you know, hey, let’s have dinner ready at 635 so we could sit on the couch and watch the first pitch together while we that’s when you know you’re doing a good job of parenting, right? Exactly. She’s, she’s the one in the in my who joined my college friends fantasy league this year because we had an extra opening, and she’s, oh, she has Raleigh, not a

Nestor Aparicio  28:29

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little West Coast

Howard Libit  28:31

rushman, and burns. So 111, you know, let’s, let’s hope they can both pick it up.

Nestor Aparicio  28:37

Yeah, let’s hope we all pick it up here. I appreciate you taking a little time out here during your busy schedule to discuss this important issue. And it was brought up on my social media, and I wanted to bring it to the forefront, and I’m glad I did. And thank you so much. Let’s end all this hate, man, you know, I mean, like love is so much more rewarding and so much easier to give and receive. You know what I mean, hatred is such a heavy burden. I mean, it really is, you know, Martin Luther King, get that right, right? What you

Howard Libit  29:04

can’t see over here on in my window is this beautiful metal cutout. That’s a quote from Martin Luther King that says, I have started, I’ve decided to stick with love. It is too great a burden to bear. I will get that quote every day,

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Nestor Aparicio  29:18

and I just gave it to you. There it is, right. I mean, perfect, right? We can chop the ball on that, but not the batter of the gloves make sure they got that together, and certainly not the arms. Howard limit is with the Baltimore Jewish Council. Uh, he’s my friend. I’m always very appreciative you. Come on, talk a little baseball here, and maybe we’ll rub elbows at Camden Yards aside,

Howard Libit  29:33

maybe I have to stop by one of those crab cake tours that stops comes with

Nestor Aparicio  29:37

beer and orange crushes. It’s a state drink, you know what I’m saying? I mean, and it is a weekend. I am Nestor. We are wnst. Am 1570 Towson, Baltimore, we never stop talking Baltimore, positive and important things you.