The under performance across Ravens roster needs to be answered by DeCosta

The final record was 8-9 and sometimes it didn’t even look that good, especially the lousy defense against varsity quarterbacks. Luke Jones and Nestor discuss the overall subpar play of the 2025 Baltimore Ravens players and the accountability of general manager Eric DeCosta for the roster and many weaknesses that were exposed during a long NFL season.

Nestor Aparicio and Luke Jones discussed the Baltimore Ravens’ subpar performance, focusing on the coaching, player performance, and front office accountability. They highlighted the team’s 8-9 record, the offensive line’s deficiencies, and the impact of key players like Derrick Henry and Tyler Linderbaum. They debated the need for organizational changes, including potential coaching and front office shifts. The conversation also touched on the financial implications of retaining key players like Lamar Jackson and Mark Andrews, and the broader challenges facing the team, such as pass rush and offensive line improvements.

• [ ] @Nestor Aparicio – Compile a list of upcoming key contract decisions and cost projections for Lamar Jackson, Tyler Linderbaum, Zay Flowers, Derek Henry, Marlon Humphrey and other notable players, including likely deadlines
• [ ] @Nestor Aparicio – Analyze head coach–quarterback (Harbaugh–Lamar) alignment scenarios and their roster and organizational consequences, including options if the relationship cannot be reconciled
• [ ] @Nestor Aparicio – Document public-relations and brand issues raised in the discussion (e.g., locker-room access, past scandals, fan sentiment) and recommend cleanup steps for team leadership to address reputation concerns
• [ ] Prepare a comprehensive offseason evaluation of the Ravens roster and coaching staff that identifies weaknesses and improvement options, with particular focus on pass rush, offensive line, skill positions, and coordinator fit
• [ ] Assess Eric DeCosta’s recent personnel and draft decisions, catalog high-impact misses and hits at edge/line positions, and summarize implications for future draft/FA strategy

Ravens’ Playoff Disappointment and Coaching vs. Players Debate

• Nestor Aparicio and Luke Jones discuss their expectations for the Ravens’ playoff game against the Steelers, with Nestor predicting a Steelers win.
• Nestor and Luke debate whether the issues with the Ravens are due to coaching or player performance, with Nestor suggesting that DeCosta’s decisions might also be to blame.
• Nestor questions Lamar Jackson’s long-term commitment to the team, while Luke emphasizes the need for a comprehensive evaluation of both coaching and player performance.
• Luke highlights the inconsistency of the Ravens’ performance, noting a five-game winning streak against weaker opponents but overall mediocre play.

Player Performance and Coaching Critique

• Luke Jones criticizes the performance of key players like Derrick Henry, citing critical fumbles that contributed to early-season losses.
• Luke discusses the offensive line’s deficiencies, mentioning specific players like Ronnie Stanley and Tyler Linderbaum, and the impact of injuries on the line’s performance.
• Luke compares the Ravens’ current situation to past successes, noting the decline in offensive line play and the need for better draft picks and player development.
• Nestor and Luke discuss the broader implications of the Ravens’ struggles, including the potential impact on Lamar Jackson’s future with the team and the need for organizational changes.

Front Office and Player Personnel Issues

• Luke Jones critiques Eric DeCosta’s draft choices, particularly at edge rusher, and the lack of impact from high draft picks like Odafe Oweh and Jaylon Ferguson.
• Nestor and Luke discuss the challenges of roster building with high-salary players like Lamar Jackson and Kyle Hamilton, and the need for better personnel decisions.
• Luke highlights the importance of stability and continuity in the coaching staff, while also acknowledging the need for potential changes to address the team’s current issues.
• Nestor and Luke discuss the potential for bold moves, including the possibility of firing John Harbaugh or Eric DeCosta, and the impact on the team’s future.

Offseason Challenges and Potential Changes

• Nestor and Luke discuss the offseason challenges facing the Ravens, including potential free agent decisions and the need for roster improvements.
• Luke emphasizes the importance of addressing the pass rush and offensive line issues, and the potential impact of losing key players like Tyler Linderbaum.
• Nestor and Luke discuss the potential for changes in the coaching staff, including the possibility of hiring a new defensive coordinator and offensive coordinator.
• Nestor expresses skepticism about the likelihood of significant changes, given the strong relationships between key team personnel and ownership.

Impact of Lamar Jackson’s Leadership and Team Dynamics

• Nestor and Luke discuss the potential impact of Lamar Jackson’s leadership style on the team’s dynamics and performance.
• Nestor suggests that Lamar’s influence on the organization might be a factor in the team’s struggles, and the need for better alignment between Lamar and the coaching staff.
• Luke highlights the challenges of managing a high-salary quarterback and the need for clear communication and accountability within the team.
• Nestor and Luke discuss the potential for changes in practice routines and team management to improve overall performance and cohesion.

Future Outlook and Fan Reactions

• Nestor and Luke discuss the potential future outlook for the Ravens, including the possibility of a rebuild or reset of key position groups.
• Nestor expresses concern about the team’s reputation and the impact of recent controversies on fan support and season ticket renewals.
• Luke emphasizes the need for a critical evaluation of the team’s performance and the potential for bold moves to address long-term issues.
• Nestor and Luke conclude by discussing the importance of maintaining fan interest and support, even in the face of challenging times for the team.

SUMMARY KEYWORDS

Ravens players, DeCosta accountability, coaching issues, player performance, offensive line, pass rush, Lamar Jackson, Derrick Henry, Eric DeCosta, John Harbaugh, offseason changes, roster building, playoff action, team expectations.

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SPEAKERS

Luke Jones, Nestor Aparicio

Nestor Aparicio  00:01

Welcome home. We are W, N, S T. Am 1570 Towson, Baltimore. We’re Baltimore positive. We’re still in Pittsburgh. Luke and I were up late into Sunday night getting ready for we thought would be playoff action. Luke thought they were going to win. I thought the Steelers were going to win. By the way, I was on record with that. I, you know, the Miss kick thing, and the drama part of it, and the fact that they came so close, and they could have, and they should have, and they would have, and you know, they would have beaten Houston this week. And you know, there’s all of that, and then there’s the reality of you and I fighting over whether it’s the coaches or it’s the players, or it’s the players, or it’s the coaches or it’s if it’s the players, then it’s the Costa, right? If it’s the coaches, then it’s horrible. I don’t know where bashadi is going to come up on this, and he’s the only vote that matters here now that because he’s stolen the money out at this point, and the other vote would be Lamar. And you and I are going to fight about that for months until it’s solid or it’s not solid as to whether he really wants to be here. And I always question that. I will continue to question that as long as he’s here. I mean, I just will, like, it’s going to be his decision. It’s an NBA thing, right? Like, if he doesn’t want to be here, they have bigger problems than that, no matter who the coach is or if the coach and he aren’t right. And Steve has to pick one, as the pundits have said, this is a time to decide whether you like your players, your coaches, your evaluators, your you know your team president and your nasty PR director who’s not from around here. I don’t know what that looks like for them in the offseason, but coaches or players, you and I would say, yes, yeah.

Luke Jones  01:49

I mean, I just don’t know how you how you can and that it’s not meant to be a cop out. It’s meant that when you have something that looked the way that it did two years ago, or even the way that it did last year until the divisional round. It’s not as though they didn’t have a great regular season. Didn’t have a really good team last year. But when it, when it becomes this which was at best, mediocre at best, look good for a game or two at a time. Yeah, and I get it, they had a five game winning streak. Go, look at the teams they played, right? I mean, it wasn’t, yeah, that bears win aged. Well, I’ll give them that other than that. I mean, it just, they just weren’t very good. So when you see that that isn’t just one thing that leads to that, I think their coaching left a lot to be desired this year, and I think the players themselves. I mean, look, love Derek Henry ended up having an amazing season. It came was a better second half away from winning the rushing title. Go, look at the final numbers. I mean, he just missed out on that. I mean, Pittsburgh shut down the run and just kind of shut down their offense until the Ravens last couple drives. But, I mean, Derek Henry had a critical fumble that was, was a massive part of a couple of their losses early in the year, right? He was a he was a reason why they started one in five. I mean, he his fumble in the Buffalo game was a backbreaker with the timing of it and the Detroit game, right? And now he also ran for a ton of yards in that Buffalo game. Like, I’m not saying that to pick on Derrick Henry, but the point is, with that, it kind of goes back to one of the themes of that predates Derrick Henry. Their stars not being stars in the most critical times. And that’s a player thing. So, you know, the offensive line, it’s not talented enough. You know, they’ve got a first they’ve got a former first round pick a decade ago at left tackle, who’s still, I think, Ronnie Stanley, still solid, Tyler Linder bombs a Pro Bowl center, but got major issues at guard, at both guard spots. Rosengarten, I thought, finished the season on a better note than how I felt through 1011 despite, yeah, but, but didn’t become the guy that I thought was maybe, maybe going to be a fringe pro bowl right tackle. He’s got work to do to get anywhere close to that. So, like, you know, and that’s just one position group I’m talking about, but that’s a big one we talked about all year. So it is everything, right? It is coaching. It is players. And then, you know, when you’re talking about the players and in certain position groups having deficiencies, yeah, it is the front office. You know, I’ve said it in passing, and others have said this, so I don’t want to make it sound like it’s original idea, just coming solely from me, but you think back to how Ozzy Newsome wide receiver was his Achilles right in terms of not being able to draft and Well, Eric didn’t help his quarterbacks either. Sure. No question. Eric Decosta, look at some of the swings they’ve taken at edge rusher. Oh way a Jabo Adisa Isaac, who’s barely played. In his first two seasons. I mean, I just rattled off a first, a second and a third round pick. Now, Mike Green flashed potential. I think he’s got a chance to become a player, but does he look like he’s going to be the next Terrell Suggs, no, certainly didn’t see that in year one second round pick there. So they’ve invested some very meaningful draft capital. And yet, what are we talking about again, and what are we going to talk about a lot this offseason, regardless of who the D the defensive coordinator is, or even who the head coach is, bring me talking about pass rush and how they improve that so. So yeah, it’s everything you know that this is an organizational failure when you’re 894, relative to the expectations, right? I mean, this wasn’t a team that, going into the year, people were lukewarm about them, everyone and their mom was picking them to go to the Super Bowl this year. Now, did we overrate their talent? Yeah, I think it’s certain spots, certainly. But at the same time, that’s where you look at the O line and say, Well, you know, last year the O line was good enough. You know, we didn’t. We weren’t sitting here saying they were the next you know, they were the 1993 Dallas Cowboys, but their O line was good enough last year. And the thought, well, and this is where I’ll stick up for Eric to Costa, to a degree, looking at it through the lens of well, Linder bomb will be another year older and another year more experienced. File lay. Lay was a Pro Bowl alternate last year, he’ll have another year of experience under his belt. So he should be better. Rose and garden should be better. Voorhees was the starter early last year before he got, you know what I mean. So like, you could talk yourself into the idea that the O line was going to be better, or at least as good as it was last year, even with McCary leaving. And let’s not, I love Patrick McCary as much as anyone. He wasn’t Marshall yonder at guard. I mean, let’s be clear. So you know, you just you look at that and you could kind of talk yourself into it, right? You could kind of talk yourself into All right, we might be, you know, the offensive line, trend line, it’s pointing upward. That wasn’t proved to clearly not be the case in 2025 so, you know, how do you where do you go from here? I mean, okay, I’ll hear Emory Jones like having some optimism for him, but it’s a third round pick who barely played, you know, was hurt most of the year. So can you really count on him to be a starter for you? I mean, that that’s TBD. So you know what? What are you gonna do with Linder bomb? Linder bombs a free agent. You’re probably gonna, he just

Nestor Aparicio  07:37

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got here. You’re kidding me, right? No, he’s gonna be a free agent. But, and he’s probably and he’s one of the good players all these other chumps they don’t have to give money to because they’re not good, right?

Luke Jones  07:47

But that, are you prepared that you’re gonna have to make him the highest paid center in the league? Because that’s probably what it’s going to be to keep them, I would think,

Nestor Aparicio  07:55

is so you’re going to have a $65 million quarterback and a $19 million center. Is that

Luke Jones  07:59

what you’re going to do? Might? I mean, maybe, but, but if you don’t, then, okay, we’ve already established that neither guard spots good enough, and now you’re starting over at center, right? I mean, like, that’s not how you’re getting better from eight and nine in 2026 so, man, it’s messy. I mean, it is man. I mean, I, I don’t, I don’t say that to be fatalistic about it. I mean, they still have Lamar Jackson pending. What’s going to happen with contract and all that. They still have Derek Henry, who I think still has one more great year in him, even if he’s going to be 32 right? And you can’t necessarily expect him to be as great as he was this year, just like, I don’t think he was quite as great as he was last year, right? I mean, maybe at least until the end of the year. You know, you have zay flowers, who now has back to back 1000 yard seasons, but you know, his fifth year option is going to be coming, that he’s going to get more expensive, not this coming season, but the year after that. What are you going to do with him? Right? So, but, but this is also just reality and Kansas City, we’re kind of seeing in real time Kansas City, you know, that kind of catching up with them finally, right? The the number of great players that they had to part with. I mean, go back to trading Tyree, kill, what three years ago now, to their credit, they still won. They won a Super Bowl. What? Won two Super Bowls without him and made it to another one. But at some point in time, whether you’re talking talent or we go back to a theme from last year for the ravens, the brain drain that they had on the coaching side last year that I don’t think they not, I don’t think, I know it’s evident that they haven’t recovered from that, you know, based on the body of work the last two years with their entire coaching staff. So, you know, at some point in time, those things don’t necessarily show up right away. Sometimes it takes two or three years. And you know, the reality is, when you have a high. Quarterback and the same conversations in Buffalo. Go, look what you’d hear about the bills right now as they’re in the playoffs.

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Nestor Aparicio  10:07

Patrick mahomes is the best quarterback on Earth, still, right? And they, they’re sitting, I haven’t heard about them in two weeks.

Luke Jones  10:13

They’re sitting at home, right? But, but buffalo, they’re in the field. All you’re here, or what you’re going to hear in their fan base. They’re talking about it right now in Western New York. Oh, our run defense stinks. And Who the heck is Alan throwing to like Khalil Shakir is our number one receiver. That’s not good enough, right?

Nestor Aparicio  10:30

And the worst part for them is, if they don’t get to the Super Bowl this year, they’re going to say we got beaten by Denver, by New England, by these young

Luke Jones  10:39

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no mahomes, no Lamar. I mean, yeah, no borough, but this is, but this, and look, Cincinnati is a great example of it, but part of that is also bad. Ownership. Front Office is very light in term. I mean, just look at their personnel, like their executives, their front office, their player personnel, their number of scouts. I mean, it’s a bare bones cheap operation. I mean, I’m not talking out of turn here. It’s Mike Brown, right? I mean, we’ve talked about that for decades, but because he doesn’t have any money. But when you have Joe burrow and you have Jamar Chase and T Higgins on big contracts, like, what are you giving? Like, what are you sacrificing elsewhere? And you know, the ravens are in the same position with you know, you’ve got Lamar, you’ve got Kyle Hamilton, who reset the market. And let me be let me be clear, you want to have those players like they’re great players, but it does make roster building more challenging elsewhere if you end up whiffing on some picks or you don’t assess where you are at a certain position group. Well, like I said, I laid out to you, I just laid out the rationale for what I’m guessing Eric was thinking in terms of where the O line was. That clearly was a miscalculation in terms of either those guys just weren’t good enough, and last year was Lamar much more making up for that than we thought. Well, they miss Joe D too. They miss Joe D. And we

Nestor Aparicio  12:07

got this kid from Michigan, and we got this giant guy from Minnesota, coach them up, dog, make them better. Make up coaches make players better. Everyone should tell you that.

Luke Jones  12:15

And as much as George warhop deserved credit for coming in, swimming upstream last year and managing that situation, which, you know, was a human thing. I mean, forget about the challenges football wise. I mean, these these guys had lost their position. Coach was like a dad to these guys. I mean, anyone in that building would tell you Joe D, I mean, was a wonderful man. So there was that element. But like George warhop deserved credit last year, this year, what happened? And I’m not, you know, it’s never as simple as, like, well, this coach is, you know, he’s dumb. Or, like, he got stupid in the, you know, like, but sometimes it’s just not the right fit. Or, yeah, you tried to make some changes, or you tried to implement your way of doing things, and it just, you know, it didn’t work. So, you know, that’s where it’s, you know, this is so messy, because there is a lot to address here, and what exactly do you do? And I think again, you talked about stability and continuity. I talked about it in terms of, well, that’s been a strength for them, yeah, reacting without overreacting. But now, when it’s gone in the wrong direction, back to back years, is that, is that what this what you need at this point? Or do you have to look at this and say you might need to be a little more bold, and you might have to make a really tough decision, whether you’re talking about your head coach, whether you’re talking about assistance, A, B, C and D, whether you’re talking about established veteran players, A, B and C, who have too big of a cap number for what their production is. You know, Marlon Humphrey comes to mind immediately, right? You know, you’ve got to look at that and say, do we need to, you know, it’s not a rebuild, but do we need to reset in some ways and start, you know, kind of restart and start over in certain groups or certain position coaches, all that. I mean, it’s, it’s tough. I mean, I don’t envy them. I don’t envy them this offseason, because that it’s a lot there, and anything you do, and you know, har ball’s kind of the the easy one to talk about. You either have conviction about him and you keep them, and then you’re dealing with how fans feel about that. Going to the business side, you do wonder about players as far not that the, you know, I think the players love horrible and respect horrible, but at the same time, I think they’re all sitting there wondering too, like, what’s it going to take? Like, what’s wrong here, you know, I mean, everyone should have personal accountability, like, for example, you know Derek Henry, you know he fumbled in the Buffalo game and he fumbled in the Detroit game, right? So everyone has accountability for their own individual play. We understand that. But when you’re looking at the collective you’re telling me those players aren’t wondering the same thing. About, you know, I love Coach harps, but like, you know, is it time, you know? Why isn’t this working the same way, you know? Or talking about the offensive coordinator or the defensive coordinator or the special teams, you know, Chris, Chris Horton, I mean, the special teams faltered at the worst possible time as well. I mean, so you just kind of look at this thing and again, my previous off seasons, I felt react without overreacting. And I don’t want to say overreact just for the sake of it, because that’s not it either. But I do think you’ve got to look at this with a much more critical eye in terms of, why isn’t this working? Why has this gone in the wrong direction? And that can lead you to some really difficult conclusions as far as what you might ultimately

Nestor Aparicio  15:52

need to well, you have a $65 million quarterback, you have a $20 million coach, you have a $20 million middle linebacker. You just have all of the and to your point, you might start to bleed even more if linderbaum is going to be gone, if Derek Henry just says, I’m done, I’m good, you know, like Marlon Humphrey’s got to be gone, right? I mean, there’s some, there’s some pieces to this. Matt abigay, I mean, I think, yeah. I mean, that does, yeah. I mean, it doesn’t feel like he’s coming back. Travis Jones, and what they did, what they did, yeah, I mean, they brought Mark Andrews back at $13 million now, and I don’t smell that. I mean, Isaiah likely is the one that caught the big bat. Where was Mark Andrews on Sunday night?

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Luke Jones  16:33

Where was Mark Andrews from the moment he signed the extension? And part of that is also how we talked about just the overall broken nature of their passing game, whereas a flat, you know, kind of the improv street ball plays the zay flowers, which, my goodness, it was amazing. You know what they did on in the fourth quarter

Nestor Aparicio  16:53

was a street ball. The first one

Luke Jones  16:55

was like, No, it was great play. It was great play. But I’m talking more so the body of work over the course of the season when it wasn’t zay flowers. I mean, what were they counting on with their passing game on any kind of consistent basis? I mean, not even mark Andrews anymore. I mean, it used to be Mark Andrews was the default, but, and you know that that started to change last year with flowers emerging to the degree that he did, but that wasn’t even that, I mean, and you just, you just re upped Andrews,

Nestor Aparicio  17:28

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which I’m blown away by that. I mean, I’m starting to think the cost is we got to start talking about him. And they’ve never talked about that. That is a part of the department in 30 years. That is the pride of bashati is to say we don’t change Steve. Eric’s like a son. I raised him as a son. He’s here. He’s my guy. I mean, I don’t know man. Bashadi is not one of the most arrogant. Well, Chad Steel’s the most arrogant man I’ve ever met, but he works for Steve. Steve’s unbelievably arrogant in regard to, that’s my guy, that that’s my guy, you know, oh, you know, if he shows up this week and says, John AR ball’s not his guy, and Eric dicost is not his guy, that may be a John wants to retire kind of thing, or, you know, I don’t know, because I don’t him coming in bleary eye and say, I fired John because John’s not the right guy for us anymore. I fired Eric because he’s not the right guy anymore. And Ozzy’s going out the door too, because Ozzy had to go out the door at some point, because he’s pushing 80 so like that. You know, at some point,

Luke Jones  18:32

you know, there will. He’s not close to being that old, by the way,

Nestor Aparicio  18:39

72 maybe he he is 69 Okay, no, no, it’s just funny,

Luke Jones  18:44

because I had a conversation recently with someone where I’m like, Ozzie Newsome is not as old as

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Nestor Aparicio  18:49

to work every day. He’s been around forever than me. And I mean, he was

Luke Jones  18:52

in his 40, you know? He was in his 40s when he became the Ravens general pub anymore.

Nestor Aparicio  18:57

Yeah, well, but he, but my point is, I know we’ve never had to discuss any of that, and now, all of a sudden, at some point it will be discussed. I think bashadi thought, Well, that’ll be for the next owner, not for me, because I’m I’m not going to roll my sleeves up and go sitting with football executives to find the next Eric. When I spent 12 years identifying Eric and keeping him around here and paying him too much, so he would be the guy. So I don’t think Eric goes anywhere. He goes anywhere John. I don’t know. I don’t know. I don’t and John, as it relates to Lamar, if John and Lamar can’t kumbaya together, because one doesn’t want the other, the other doesn’t want the other, I think that’s the case, by the way, just so, you know, I just, that’s my that’s my opinion. My opinion is it’s one or the other, because together, it ain’t working, fair enough. And that comes to me from what time of the day they practice, because Lamar can’t get out of bed in the morning, how much the organization has been shaped. Is, for better or worse, by Lamar, because har ball has to let him run the place. And I don’t think Harbaugh wants a $65 million quarterback running the place, and I think that that’s what’s going on right now. That’s based on practices, that’s based on press conferences where Harbaugh says he’s going to play, and he does, like just in a general sense, I think har ball doesn’t know what he’s getting at a Lamar or whether, and that from a leadership standpoint, I don’t care how good you are, you know, like if we can’t work together, fans be damned Luke and Nestor, be damned lamar’s talent. Be damned if he wants to go play in Miami. We’re all wasting our breath here, and especially if it comes to firing har ball, because it’s like, if Lamar is going to go, you probably should have a new coach. But that doesn’t mean that John’s is in the mood to go find a fire, hire a coach, and by the way, if you love Jason Garrett that much, Jason Garrett’s available. I mean, like, literally, maybe, Hey, dude, I’m just saying, Do you want a coach that’s coached before, or do you want Mike McDonald? I don’t, I don’t know. I don’t know. With Lamar Jackson, if you’re like, Well, we have Lamar for three more years here at 65 million a year. Not that you want Pete Carroll or Bill Belichick, right, or but or Jim Schwartz or Kevin Stefanski or whomever, but maybe you want to coach who’s coach before? I don’t I literally, I don’t think Tony Dungy wants to coach him. You know, I don’t know who is available out there who will make themselves available. But we’ll wrap with this, because we’re going to talk a lot. Oh yeah. I mean, massive is going to happen here to Costa Harbaugh, Lamar, if the three of them are all coming back on September 1, you and I are going to have a hell of a lot of questions about the pass rush, the offensive line, the skill position players, the center, like, everything else, the kicker, everything else about the coaches, all the coaches, the defensive coordinator, like, if the three of those are back the cost of har ball and Lamar, and they’re all decorated, and they’re all well paid, and they’re all under contract. So to think that they’re going to come back with that Holy Trinity again and run it back again after eight and nine, I don’t know. I don’t know. I don’t know how many people don’t send their season ticket renewals in? And I don’t know that Sashi brown gives a damn, and I know Chad steel doesn’t, and I know John does it, and I know Eric doesn’t. So somebody’s got to care about the business. Somebody’s got to care about the brand, besides that great brand manager, Chad steel, who had me sitting out in the cold while other people were covering the game and asking questions, some people were in the locker room asking Tyler Luke questions, but my organization had to pick one or the other. It’s gross. I mean, dude, their reputation since Wembley, I don’t think the Ray Rice thing even hurt their reputation the way it should have, because they were so close to a super the lies the woman getting punched in a glass elevator, and everybody in the building who’s still there lied. If it’s other than Kevin Byrne lied about it is still there in the building. So they there’s a cleanup on aisle purple and paging. Steve bashati, yeah.

Luke Jones  23:15

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I mean, regardless of what the outcome is going to be, and you just said it. I mean, even if di Costa harbor and Lamar are all back, which is still, I think, more likely than a lot of fans, oh, I want it to be, they’re all under contract, they all make a lot right exactly, yeah, I think we’ll find out. But, but even if that happens, they all those questions are still there, right? I mean, whoever the new defensive coordinator is, because I think you and I both feel like that’s, that’s the only thing I can bare minimum, right? I mean monk, and might be, I mean Todd monk and might say, I’m going, I’m going back to college, you know? I mean, I don’t know, you know, where’s he with Lamar, right? I mean, his his offense was suffering because of Lamar being banged and I’m not blaming Lamar, but he just was hurt, right? And missing practice. And again, there’s a, there’s a cost benefit at work there, right? I mean, with Lamar missing practice and all that, but where’s Todd monkey with that? Right? Where are the other assistant coaches with with all that? So these questions are all going to be there in some shape or form, and they’re not going away. To your point, you say September, I would say, I mean, maybe, maybe more so this year, because they’re coming off of a non playoff season. But what have we said for the last five or six years now, since they lost to the Titans back in January of 2020, we’ve said it’s all about January. I mean, the regular season thankless, but then when you have a regular season where you don’t even get to January, my goodness, I mean, that’s a lot of uncomfortable

Nestor Aparicio  24:55

conversation, because your kicker was out being a predator, and you had to go get another kicker who. Is the kick. I mean, by the way, Ethan Giffen, I want to give him a lot of love. Ethan as a friend of mine, he runs group commerce. He had a lot of drunk, nasty people on my Twitter and Facebook in the middle of the night. But Ethan Giffin said that was a Karma kick. It’s bad karma, just in a general the karma kick. So I’m going to leave it at that. Luke Jones, can be found at Baltimore. Luke, what pitchers and catchers report soon, five weeks, a little over a

Luke Jones  25:26

month, all right, World Baseball, World Baseball Classic this year. So they were guys report a little bit early.

Nestor Aparicio  25:30

By the way, I want to talk about Venezuela on the World Baseball Classic. I’ll do that with you, because they’re playing a game against Dominican on March 11 in Miami, and I had thoughts of being there, but tickets are $400 to get in. You know, we folks, they throw us in with, you know, in in cages and put but we love our baseball. We Venezuelans, who are now under the leadership of the great orange schiitler, they’ve taken over Venezuela since we’ve done just what a world it’s football. I’m in Pittsburgh. I’m leaving soon, driving down the hill. He’s Luke. I’m Nestor. We’re back for more right after this. You.