The bigger and louder the crowd, the worse this mostly young Orioles team seems to perform. That has to change in Texas. Luke Jones and Nestor head off to racous, World Series-thirsty Arlington, Texas for Game 3 of the American League Division Series while the Ravens land in London licking their purple wounds from an awful loss in Pittsburgh.
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Luke Jones, Nestor Aparicio
Nestor Aparicio 00:01
Looking back at W n s t, Towson, Baltimore and Baltimore positive we are celebrating our 25th anniversary with our friends at curio wellness. Weโll be doing the countdown I swear, at some point Iโm gonna get settled maybe some extra hotel time in Fort Worth, Texas. Iโll take a look over to Billy Bobโs if the Oreos get eliminated on Tuesday night and I donโt think Billy Bobโs still exist I donโt even know I donโt really care to know I would like to bring back some Texas barbecue but other than that, winning in Texas is all that matters. And I guess for the Ravens winning in London, itโs all the matters as well. Weโre going to be doing our Maryland crabcake Tour presented by the Maryland lottery us ravens scratch offs to give away drugs City at the fountain upstairs at the tasting room and either way I know one thing my birthday is coming Saturday hope live long enough to get here to 55 years old. The Orioles are still very much keeping us active on Friday night the American League Championship Series are friends and when donation 866 90 nation a Jiffy Lube, multi care and their multi locations as well sponsoring our Maryland crabcake tour which weโre trying to keep alive. Iโll have more of them if somehow the Ravens get eliminated then weโre in Hollywood casino on Sunday in Perry Ville, for breakfast, brunch, $30 all you can eat. You donโt have to pay that itโs not a cover charge at all. You can bring the family up. But if you want to participate also, you can win a lot of money as well as a $500 cash prize as well involved in this. So come on up. Eat the buffet have some french toast. I hope they play better. Look, I mean I donโt even know how youโre doing it. I mean youโre you know youโre I even did Billy Joel and Stevie Nicks on Saturday night I went to New York to see John Mayer last week. I made it to the Queen concert which thumbs down on the Adam Lambert Queen for me. I even got my Billy Joel and Stevie Nicks field pass. Thank you to Leonard Raskin for hooking me up with Teach seats and you couldnโt give away at the end and I had a great time Saturday night. I could not have a good time Friday or Saturday afternoon. I did not like Sunday and Iota how she How are you doing? How are you? This is weird for you teams in London watching the football team on the little screen. Youโre at the ballpark. The Orioles are wetting the bed. But the Ravens loss in its own space was a biblical loss that theyโre going to walk away a little easier on from all of us, because weโre on to the orange birds again on Tuesday night with the season on line. But just in a shell. That was just bad ravens losses. thereโs ever been in a division game. At this point in the season where you have high hopes youโre thinking we this is a year buffalo is gonna get nicked up for Kansas City and weโll host the AFC Championship game here. And then you go and you lay stinker like that. And Pittsburgh.
Luke Jones 02:44
Well, what you just laid out starting to talk about Buffalo and Kansas City to me, youโre back to stop. Stop with that. And look, we were guilty of it. You and I talked about this last week how the Ravens were looking like the class of the AFC north. And what happens a week later. Well, they do what they did in Pittsburgh, and Cleveland has the bye week, which you know, weโll see what that means for Deshaun Watson shoulder as it pertains to their chances. And lo and behold, the Bengals actually looked a little more like the Bengals on Sunday. And Iโm not saying that theyโre out of the woods with Joe burrows calf and all that. But thatโs why we always say itโs a week to week league. And thatโs, you know, thatโs such a, you know, thatโs a crutch to use at times, but who saw this coming? And I know people will say yeah, oh, itโs ravens Steelers. Yeah, the Ravens beat themselves on Sunday weigh more than the Pittsburgh Steelers beat the ravens, I think even Steelers fans would acknowledge that at this point in time. So book, is it so consequential to the big picture? Look, itโs still early October. So weโre not going to overreact in that way. But I do go back to what I said in one of our previous conversations where I have real concerns about this teamโs ability to finish off football games and this teamโs ability to adjust in game to adversity. Now they do have done a phenomenal job for a few years now of adjusting during the course of the week to injuries and absences and their preparation from Monday through Saturday. But when things kind of go awry, or go sideways in the midst of a game, thatโs where I question this team and you know in a previous segment I mentioned mental toughness and some of those situations. I talked a lot about when the Ravens beat the Browns last week, I talked about the difference between that Browns defense and the Ravens defense was that Browns defense wilted when they saw that their rookie backup quarterback couldnโt do anything and they kind of wilted and then they didnโt play as well. This team and I donโt mean the defense specifically I mean the this team across the board Over the last couple of years, has had a few more struggles than I would like to see in finishing football games in winning football games that they should have in hand. But they donโt because of turnovers or because of questionable play calls or getting cute. or doing something thatโs just not sound mentally, thereโs been a little bit too much of that for me. And thatโs that right there. Letโs be clear. That doesnโt mean that theyโre a bad football team either. But that right there, what I just laid out is the difference between being good, but then having to go on the road in the first or second round of the playoffs, and having the chance to be great. Like you just mentioned, as you mentioned, Buffalo and Kansas City and just talking about the big picture of the AFC, what I just laid out that right, thereโs a difference between being good, and having to play on the road in January, and having a chance to have home field, for example. So thatโs when you look at Sundayโs loss and just say okay, I mean, theyโre three and two, theyโre still in first place in the division. I still am not a big believer in the Pittsburgh Steelers, the browns, tell me whatโs going to happen with Watson shoulder. I know thatโs such a big question. The Bengals Yeah, they looked a little more like the Bengals. But theyโre still two and three. And Joe burrows calf is still an issue.
Nestor Aparicio 06:13
So and the Rams still have a tiebreaker having beaten them on the road.
Luke Jones 06:18
Yeah, exactly. But when youโve now squandered away two games in three weeks that you absolutely feel you should have won. And that would mean this team would be five and own right now, as opposed to three and two. You know, when we were saying that, we were saying that last year, when they were three and two, and, and could have been five no at that point in time. So I mean, thatโs, thatโs where you look at that and say, Okay, whereโs the, you know, you have veterans, you have guys whoโve been through this before you had guys that you hope to learn the lessons from last year when this happened early in the season, but itโs happening again, now, it doesnโt look exactly the same way. Because that was probably not probably that definitely was more defensive driven. Whereas the defense overall was played very well for the Ravens. But just in general, in crunch time, in the last seven, eight minutes of a football game, or overtime, as was the case against Indianapolis purchase, theyโre coming up small when they need to come up big. And you know, when when you do that you lose football games. This isnโt like college football, where, you know, itโs Alabama or Georgia or whoever playing some FCS school, you know that the talent level is not that dramatic in the NFL, where you let a team hang around as the way that in the way that the Ravens let the Steelers hang around when they really had no business being in that football game. Theyโll probably, theyโll rise up or youโll make one too many mistakes. And thatโll be the difference. And theyโll beat you then. So thatโs what happened. Yeah, they need to turn the page maybe in some way, as much as everyoneโs going to call back to what happened in 1718. And go into London and getting absolutely embarrassed by the jab actually get away and kind of being on an island a little bit and not, thereโs not going to be a whole lot of attention on them. from a local perspective, obviously, when theyโre in London, when thereโs still so much oxygen for the Orioles, you know, at least until Tuesday night, you know if they lose Tuesday night and you know, weโre talking in different terms. But you know, theyโve got a theyโve got to find a way to finish football games. And thatโs whatโs been so disappointing because I think everyone sees the potential. Even with the offense specifically, I mean, the defense. Look, the defense looks legit. And I know Marlon Humphrey got burned, but still, at the end of the day, they gave up, you know, the Ravens gave up 17 points, youโll take that every week, right? I mean, thatโs just gonna say
Nestor Aparicio 08:45
for all their deficiencies and all the problems they have. If Lamar doesnโt throw that pass, if Humphrey, if Andrews catches, if got, you know, one if Arbol and blender bomb, and whatever the hell happened, they kick a field goal, their three points would have meant the world, especially when theyโre getting punched block late in the game, right? Would have been 13 to eight would have felt a little different, right?
Luke Jones 09:08
Yeah, no question about it. But as my high school phys ed teacher used to
Nestor Aparicio 09:12
save spots and candies and nuts. We all have
Luke Jones 09:15
a Merry Christmas, right? I mean, thatโs, you know, thatโs just thatโs where it is. And for me, thatโs just whatโs so disappointing, because you see the potential even with the injuries that theyโve had, and they were healthier on Sunday. Again, theyโre at a point now where theyโre slowly but surely getting healthier and but you know, the drops are was not something we had seen a whole lot of the first four weeks. So thatโs where Iโm Iโm inclined to give the past catchers the benefit of the doubt at the same time. Can Beckham stay healthy? I mean, we saw him on and off the field on Sunday. I mean, at some point in time, itโs like okay, can this guy play or not anymore? Or is he just is this one itโs going to be
Nestor Aparicio 09:51
and itโs going to take an eight yard cross and thatโs going to be what we get out of him. Right? Right. Well, I mean, in any way,
Luke Jones 09:58
or you get Lamar Jackson trying to force the past to him in the endzone that gets picked off. I mean, you know, and Iโm not saying that was Beckhamโs fault, but that connection wasnโt there. And that was that canโt happen there. Yeah, they had to at the very least get three points there. But you know that that was their opportunity to put put a put the ball in the endzone and hey, you go home then you know, even even if it was choppy, you go home with a witness, so, but Iโm gonna bring up the other name here. Iโm concerned about Rashad Bateman at this point, I mean, I really am and the foot injury last year, you know, he missed time his first year with a sports hernia surgery. But Iโm just what I saw Sunday was a guy that is not playing with confidence. I mean, heโs just not and you saw a couple bad bad drops. You know, at one point, he didnโt get his arms extended on a deep ball that I thought he had a chance to make a play on. And Iโm just not sure. And itโs not as though he was heavily involved before he missed the game with the hamstring. So this is where we come back to all the investment made it at wide receiver, I do still have some questions about it. Now. Iโm going to give him a flowers to benefit benefit of the doubt because he hadnโt really looked like a rookie at all. In his first four games. He looked like a rookie on Sunday. I mean, that was, heโd be the first to tell you and I know he talked about it in the post
Nestor Aparicio 11:18
not lining up right and costing him a timeout as well.
Luke Jones 11:23
That falling down on a deep ball or he had a chance to make a big play. I mean, that was that was not good. But again, that was collected. I mean, Mark Andrews didnโt have a good game on Sunday. I mean, Mark Andrews had a ball go right through his ads in the endzone. So itโs just it was the cumulative impact of missed opportunity after missed opportunity after turnovers questionable, too cute with what youโre trying to do at the end of the first half. And then your senator snaps the ball, um, you know that thatโs poor execution. And I question the coaching there of, you know, if youโre, if your senator is unsure, then maybe you donโt do that, then donโt do that, in that situation, just just kick the kick the field goal. Because even if you even if you get the Steelers to jump offsides, there, you still donโt have a whole lot of time to to put the ball in the endzone there. So youโre still talking about probably not the highest percentage possibility there. So, point is, they just had so many chances to make this game not have to come down to where it was in the fourth quarter. And then when it did, and then when you say, hey, thereโs nothing you can do about what happened in the first second and third quarter. This is the game right here. And then at that point in time, just about everyone came up small and that. I mean, thatโs itโs a 60 minute football game. I mean, Ray Lewis, how many times have we seen the old NFL films of him miked up on the sideline and re talking about it being a 60 minute game, this team twice in three weeks now has not learned that lesson, you know that it is a 60 minute game. And if you leave a team, even an inferior team, if you leave them in the game, then more often than not, youโre gonna end up getting your feelings hurt. And thatโs whatโs happened now two out of the last three weeks and a team that very easily without even playing perfect football without guys, you know, all these guys that have missed time over the first five weeks of the season, very easily could be five and Oh, but you know what? Theyโre not there. Theyโre what the record says they are. Theyโre a three and two football team that I think still has potential. And thatโs why when I say this, Iโm not down on them and in a big picture sense, but at some point in time, got to finish football games. And I What is concerning for me is you said the same thing last year, and that was an issue last year. So you know, you should be growing from those types of experiences. And weโre not seeing that early in the season. And thatโs the reason why theyโre three and two rather than five. No, heโs Luke Jones.
Nestor Aparicio 13:49
So he is Baltimore Luke you could find them out on the interwebs as well talking football and baseball all week long. You can find me at Hollywood casino and Perry weโll be there on Sunday morning having breakfast also going to be drug city on Friday afternoon during the Maryland crab cake tours my birthday weekend. Thereโs some great bands at the record theater on open the Orioles to be playing on Sunday night to meander back and forth of football to baseball. Is there anything left to say about the Orioles in regard to you know, just the fan base and the expectation of disappointment. I mean, what we witnessed here on Sunday is a weird hangover. But the Orioles can make it better. The Ravens certainly can go to London and win. I mean itโs different for the Ravens were sounds to me like youโre calling out the coach a little bit here too. Right? Itโs that you know, when you start talking about all of these issues this far in the coach in any other place would be the next guy up for this. The Orioles are going in a different direction though if they get eliminated on Tuesday, right like they get eliminated. Weโre talking about the least weโre talking about them spending money and Henderson and rutschman in the offseason and pitching and who theyโre going to have Theyโre not going to have we go into a whole different place and then the football team takes on all the weight of the world. I mean, weโre nine innings away from that I mean the Orioles will take a miracle for the orals went three games in a row that miracle but itโs been 10 Done 10 out of 88 times according to Luke Jones, our statistician here, but thereโs definitely a mojo thing going on here where this Steelers ravens thing is sliding into the Orioles real mess I mean the Orioles are the bigger fire here as fires go. But both teams felt on fire on Sunday and thatโs kind of unfortunate right? I mean, because so close to it all working out and we get all worked up sell out stadiums. We have traffic downtown and all of that. But the baseball teams Mojo on Tuesday night the baseball team is the full focus despite the fact that the Ravens ran a little loose in Pittsburgh last one.
Luke Jones 15:54
Yeah, I mean, itโs their seasons on the line. I mean, thatโs why I said as much as you talk about the Ravens I mean, that being just a loss that brought a lot of disgust quite frankly like I said disgust versus disappointment and how the Orioles played in games one and two Oreos their seasons on the line whereas the Ravens even if they lose to Tennessee on Sunday, Sunday morning in London youโre still not talking about the seasons far from over right so
Nestor Aparicio 16:23
man if they come back three and three Whoa. Right
Luke Jones 16:27
again dependent on what happens with the Orioles if the Orioles have completed a comeback and won these last three
Nestor Aparicio 16:33
game once your Sunday 41 to nothing like it did the last time and you and I wouldnโt have to go out looking for food and Soho after Russia, you know Exactly exactly.
Luke Jones 16:42
But with the Orioles look couple things here. Beyond just the fan aspect to this that that is itโs very real. I mean, there was so much excitement going into this weekend. And for it to turn out the way it did. I mean, itโs just such a disappointment. Such a bummer, you know, I mean, not not even being angry about it as much as just gets it stinks, you know, like this, if you imagine the opposite result, and the Ravens win in Pittsburgh and look like one of the best teams in the AFC and look like the class of the AFC north and the Orioles are up to oh right now can you imagine what what that the tone would have been like for that? So itโs the opposite. Itโs where we are at this point in time. Itโs where the Orioles are at this point in time as theyโre traveling to Arlington. But, you know, I mentioned for me such a big key whether itโs Gibson or Kramer starting game three, that their their offense has to start fast. And I know they scored some runs on Sunday. And they even built it to nothing lead in the first inning. But Iโm going to talk a little more about what we saw in game one. Letโs face it, this offense struggled the last couple of weeks of the season to score runs consistently. I mean, they scored 32 runs over their final 11 games. And I get it they had clinched with a few games to go. So if you want to dismiss the last three games of the Red Sox series, knock yourself out. Iโm okay with that. But we did see it be a little more up and down. Scoring wise, the last month of the season. Weโve talked about Mullins. Ryan OโHearn did not have a great September, you go down the list of some guy other guys that struggled at different points. So down the
Nestor Aparicio 18:14
castle not being right after the end of
Luke Jones 18:18
the shoulder. Yeah, yeah. The shoulder. Yeah. I mean, thereโs thereโs been a lot going on and look, when itโs at the very end of the season. The unknown is there, right? Are you tired and worn down? Because youโre talking about some young guys who, especially talking about someone like Gunnar Henderson, you know, someone like Ryan OโHearn, who has never played this regularly, you know, because you know where he was as a failed prospect in Kansas City. But you go down the list of guys. Are guys tired? Or is it one of the many ebbs and flows of a season and if thatโs the case, if you can have your bats awaken on Tuesday night, youโre talking about needing to win three in a row. I mean, how many times that the Orioles won three in a row this season? I mean, I saw the game notes on Sunday night that were eight. Itโs more than that, in fact, give me give me Iโm looking at it right now. And I just had one of
Nestor Aparicio 19:12
the things if they didnโt win 15 in a row there have one of those long stretches that would take out a couple of three and a rose. I would say eight but youโre going to come back and tell him it was 11 or something or 12. The Orioles
Luke Jones 19:24
had 16 winning streaks of at least three games and the 2023 regulars I
Nestor Aparicio 19:29
gave I gave me 50% Thatโs terrible. Yeah. And I lose that competition.
Luke Jones 19:34
And Iโll go back Iโll go back to this because I cited this before but I went and I got the exact numbers for you. We all think back to late June and early July right? They lost six or seven loss to the Yankees on the Fourth of July. Everyoneโs thinking, you know is this team kind of coming back to Earth now. They want to season high eight in a row after that. Go back to mid September. They had the you know they lost the final game of the Red Sox series at Fenway. They lost those games to The Cardinals, you know, they lost five of six, they dropped the first two against Tampa Bay, they won four straight against the rays and then the first two against the Astros in Houston. And then even in late September, they dropped three in a row, theyโre still trying to sew up the division, the rays are still on their heels, they won five straight then the clinch of division. So itโs what this team has done all year now. Someone listening right now thatโs pessimistic about this. And Iโd even say realistic about this, to be honest, because it is October it is different. At some point in time, itโs gonna come to an end unless theyโre, unless theyโre gonna win the World Series, right? Thereโs one team thatโs happy at the end. At the end, you hadnโt
Nestor Aparicio 20:36
been swept all year and you donโt lose series. And you youโre pretty good at home. You have your pitching set up, youโre healthier than youโve been. The closer canโt lose the game until the end, right. So we can talk about Teesta all you want, but police had nothing to do with game one and two, or even the setup of how it really would have gone for the most part. And they got here handily under one winds, took the last four days off played some some pumpkin baseball as I called it the over the weekend with the Red Sox. Yeah. You know, it couldnโt have set up better for them. I mean, really, realistically, and I want to ask you this. This is sort of my interruption on this going to Texas. And I donโt think of Texas baseball as being anything inhospitable, quite frankly, all the times. Iโve gone to cowboys games down there. I think the Cowboys fans are kind of fraudulent, like cowboys. Fans are like Mark Messina and people I know. But you know, my late buddy saw who loved the cowboys who worked at Halliburton. Like theyโve near their guys that live in Parkville that are running around with Troy Aikman kids named Troy Roger, right? You know what I mean? Like, I donโt feel that Mojo in Dallas when Iโm there that they own Dallas any more than the stars or the Mavericks, or the Rangers I feel like Texas football, or your high school team or your college team. If youโre a nm thatโs what I always feel anytime Iโm in the south anywhere. I donโt feel like the Braves are anybodyโs number one because theyโre in the NASCAR or theyโre into their college football team or their high school gamer. Whatever their their passion is outside of it. I have a feeling that Iโm going to be blown away by showing up there for a kill game for franchise where they havenโt won. The weatherโs going to be great. Cowboys got their ass kicked on Sunday night right? I have a feeling that this is going to be this really big moment. Right? The cow Gibson that scene crowds right? Have they played a vicious road game these kids on this asking because they didnโt hold up? Do whenever the crowd gets big Fourth of July, Tampa, things get a little wacky for them. They they havenโt not played great baseball, when thereโs a lot of people and a lot of noise. And Iโm not thatโs just an observation that Iโm looking at it and saying I want to see them measure up to the moment of the crowd. We talked about the Ravens on fire met candidate day allowing them to win the game I mean itโs crazy right but the Orioles going down to Texas here. I donโt like the way theyโve responded to the energy that the crowd broad and the noise and and nobody was booing Grayson Rodriguez or at least I didnโt mean you were there. I donโt know. But I mean, the football crowd here. I mean harsh. You know cheering col bowlers injury. I mean, Iโve seen awful stuff happen in our sports fans, the baseball fans and Aaron Hicks was this was brought up in the broadcast that he was hated Reviled in New York wished and went to bed every night and, you know, go out and get a apple at midnight at an event or somebodyโs got an ganky hat on and looks at him and doesnโt you know what I mean? He didnโt happen. Theyโve had a different walk of life here these young players in Baltimore, because the team were down on Lamar Lamar is gonna get booed before itโs over with right I donโt know if Adley rutschman is gonna feel that anytime soon. Certainly not anytime, anytime soon, I would say right for any of these guys, but the noise and the crowd. Thatโs something that has struck me about they havenโt handled the crowd well, and I donโt know what that means for any of them. Brandon Hyde, probably going back to Wrigley Field and having that October energy and all that vibe that you felt hair on the back of your neck and all that, man, it led to a lot of ball ones. You know me from the pitchers and Guy swinging the pitches, maybe they wouldnโt have swung at in normal circumstances trying to do too much offensively pressing as John Smoltz would say in the broadcast over the weekend. Iโm just from the side I think itโs gonna be a hornetโs nest down in Texas for them. Iโm wondering if the hair on the back of my neck is going to stand up in that ballpark or not and whether itโs going to feel like Houston feels football Lee what you know, I mean, I remember the best crowds I ever saw Yankee Stadium dem aside, Fenway, you know, whatever and Iโve been, Iโve been to 58 World Series games, man. And you know, and theyโre different than Super Bowls because theyโre loud. By the time you get to the World Series, itโs not an international crowd of golfers and you know, people in $5,000 junkets, itโs always a home crowd everywhere in the World Series game. And Iโve heard places led the Cleveland crowds in the 90s. Were outrageously football drunken chant, you know, it was nasty. It was nasty to come into Cleveland Play baseball game in the 90s way more so than any other place Iโve ever been. I mean, some places a little joyous. Itโs a little rah rah Pom Pom, me, it was a football game in Cleveland, I have a feeling a Texas, you know, Kyle Gibson is going to be dealing with issues and you know, two out strikes every time gunners up with two strikes, itโs gonna get really ugly in there, itโs gonna get loud. And I donโt know that, like, these guys are golfers or tennis players or whatever. But I do think thereโs something about 23 that I saw Grayson Rodriguez, he was his biggest taxes, toughest taxes, you know, all of that. And I saw the crowd sort of get after a young man that the next time youโll be better for that. And, and thatโs all I can say, as a 55 year old guy not to creep down on 20 year old kids out performing, right. But this is how heโs going to get his $200 million is by winning these games and being better in these circumstances. And Jack Morris would say that Jim Palmer would say that, you know, guys that did it a lot would say that. And smolt said that in the broadcast, right? I just to me the crowd in Texas and taking the crowd out and getting a little more quiet. It would be better for these guys than being up with 42,000 people down five to two in the fifth inning and then it becomes two strikes to strike sixth inning, seventh inning, eighth inning and the Rangers. I guess they will will do all they can do to, you know, avoid their bullpen at any costs and try to get lefty matchups and try to make those matchups and but Bruce Bochy does not want to see Wednesday night. He knows he knows, you know, Tuesday leads to Wednesday, which leads us having a good time on Friday. And you know what I mean? Like heโs seen this go the other way, too. They want to end this Tuesday night. No question about
Luke Jones 27:21
it. I mean, look, the crowd factor? I donโt know. Itโs impossible to quantify.
Nestor Aparicio 27:28
But I did feel different the ballpark.
Luke Jones 27:32
But But I guess my point is, I donโt know how much of that factor with Grayson Rodriguez. I mean, I just donโt, in the same way that Clayton Kershawโs pitch in front of a ton of big crowds and World Series and all that and he he was awful on Saturday night, he couldnโt get out of the first inning Hall of Fame pitcher. So, But your point is well taken, I think itโs going to be an electric atmosphere. And theyโre going to be on the road, you know, theyโre the heel now as opposed to the babyface you know, to put it in wrestling terms you know with the crowds gonna be popping for their good guys and the origin they
Nestor Aparicio 28:03
gotta feed off the bad guys. Now Mr. Henderson needs to hit a three run home run in the seventh inning when thereโs what two strikes you know, and an O to count, you know, or one to count where theyโre trying to get on the edge and Guy misses one of their stinky bullpen guys misses a lefty no doubt it will be a lefty. Right. I mean, itโll have to be right. I mean, like thatโs the way Bruce Bochy is gonna play this. Yeah,
Luke Jones 28:25
but but they only have so many lefties and I mean of all heโs gonna start heโs right handed. So I mean, I think certainly they prefer the lefties. I think thatโs I still think that narrative is being a little overblown, because go look at the numbers. The Orioles hit left handed pitching this year. I mean, they did. So I donโt think itโs I think it matters for a couple guys, namely Gunnar Henderson and keep an OโHearn on the bench. I think thatโs really where it comes down to this big time because, you know, Adley rutschman hit left handed pitching way better this year than he did as a rookie, you know, when that was actually kind of a thing where he really struggled from the right side of the plate. So thatโs part of it. But yeah, I mean, the crowd and this is why I said I think itโs of the utmost importance for this team. Take the crowd out of it just for their own headspace to jump out to an early lead get a couple of runs on the board before Gibson or Kramer whoever starting next because one starting game through the other starting game for presumably unless something really weird happens so you know, get get an early lead. It does calm the crowd a little bit. I donโt think it takes them out of it entirely. I am in full agreement that itโs going to be a buzzsaw. I think the Rangers fans are gonna be excited to have playoff baseball. Theyโre in their ballpark and not hosting it as the you know, the pandemic year you know, keep in mind thatโs where they played so
Nestor Aparicio 29:46
but in the open the ballpark and the pandemic right I mean, yeah, crazy. What right yeah.
Luke Jones 29:50
So I mean, itโs yeah, theyโre gonna be fired up there as they should be. Again, itโs such strange territory because the rangers have not played at home Since they have choked away, the ALS, beat Tampa, on the road, beat the Orioles for two on the road. So a lot has changed for them since they were last home a couple of weeks ago. So that crowds gonna be fired up. Thereโs no question and yeah, the Orioles are gonna have to respond. And you laid out the scenario if itโs five to two. I mean, if theyโre trailing five to two. Itโs not looking good. Whether theyโre playing in Arlington, Baltimore or on the moon. I mean, thatโs just thatโs the reality when youโre down. Oh, two, and if youโre trailing in game three at that point in time, itโs not good. I mean, thatโs the captain obvious statement. So yeah, I think this is going to be a big test. Iโll point this out. And yeah, I know that itโs not postseason, raucous crowds during road series in May and June and July, but itโs team tied the Braves for the best road record in baseball at 52 and 29 152 road games this year. Now, how does that translate to October? Who the heck knows but you know, everything we know about this team to this point. Does lead lend itself to having some optimism left a lot. But down to well, I mean, I we all know the math there. You got to win three before the Rangers win.
Nestor Aparicio 31:18
This isnโt the Ravens going to Cincinnati with Tyler Huntley. Right. You know what I mean? Yeah, Iโm thinking youโre gonna beat them in Buffalo in Kansas. You know, this is this is about winning on Tuesday night and getting a strong start by you know, I guess we think itโs Gibson. It might be Kramer whatever itโs going to be on on Tuesday night. However, this matches, Iโll probably both up before the nights over if thereโs peril, because theyโre not going back to web and Baker. And I mean, theyโre just not right. I mean, like, I mean, who was I going to go to what the season on the line? Look, dude, weโre nine years later, seven years later talking about book show author doesnโt even Britain. I mean, thatโs where we are now That better not happen again. Right? Well,
Luke Jones 31:58
thatโs the problem is they donโt have Zack Britt. The problem is they donโt have Andrew Miller. The problem is, they donโt have anyone as good as what they were no day was at his best talking about condo right now. As opposed to the condo. We saw the first three months of the season. And thatโs part of the issue here. I mean, and thatโs why I said when Grayson Rodriguez gets knocked out in the second inning. At that point, I barely even care who theyโre bringing in from the bullpen. Because seven and a third innings, you just werenโt going to navigate that without having to use guys that you donโt want to use. Itโs just just reality. Itโs the simple math of it. So yeah, whoever starting if they donโt if they canโt get you through, at least at least into the fifth or sixth inning. And then, you know, if they canโt do that much, I donโt think they I donโt think they can win unless their offense scores. 12. Ron, so I mean, you know, thatโs, thatโs what weโre talking about here. So they need
Nestor Aparicio 32:50
to get salty, by the way.
Luke Jones 32:52
I mean, a vault. First of all, heโs the kind of pitcher I would have loved to have seen the Orioles sign last offseason, you know, not an ace, but a top half of the rotation kind of guy here. They settled on Kyle Gibson. It is what it is.
Nestor Aparicio 33:07
You and I on Wednesday morning have to talk about Gibson beaten ivaldi, right?
Luke Jones 33:10
Sure, sure. Or weโre talking about the opposite and saying, hey, it would have been nice that maybe
Nestor Aparicio 33:15
I told you so on Monday morning. Well, and
Luke Jones 33:18
I wasnโt it was a guy like him that I was looking for them to kind of target. But you know, he did have the injury. He missed time during the season. He had a really good start against the rays in the wildcard round. But if you kind of look since he had come back, he hadnโt really been extended a whole lot. You know, this wasnโt a guy that was pitching into the seventh inning consistently. So, you know, I think itโs going to be interesting. I mean, he should be well rested. So thatโs something that you donโt like from an Orioles perspective, but he is right handed. And we saw it as much as weโve talked about some of these left handed guys that donโt throw all that hard some soft toss type guys, not not that all of them. Still throw 9293 Whatever. But this is a right right handed guy who at his best even though is Velo isnโt peak right now because of the injury but heโs the kind of pitcher that the Orioles have actually, no, I think back to how they completely knocked around glass now a couple couple of weeks ago at Camden Yards, you know, and what was such a big game in that third game of that four games set. So, you know, maybe this is exactly what they need, you know, someone whoโs pros a little more velo, right handed. Know how long bocce will stay with him if if he runs into some trouble. Who knows. But
Nestor Aparicio 34:31
they tell you imagine their bullpen in the third inning then then you start talking about Wednesday night. Yeah, sure.
Luke Jones 34:37
And thatโs what again, thatโs whatโs so frustrating about they kind of what they did offensively against Montgomery is kind of what you hope would happen. Itโs just you werenโt expecting Grayson Rodriguez to get shelled and knocked out in the second inning and then youโre having to pitch guys like Brian Baker and Jacob Webb early in the game because you know who the heck else youโre gonna throw up because yeah, you go through your Less guys than Okay, those bad pictures then or those lesser pitchers are then pitching later in the game because someoneโs got a pitch so just wasnโt ideal. See what happens when Tuesday night? You try to win Wednesday night you win Wednesday night. You come home and hey, youโre feeling really good. Itโs a new season. Itโs a one game season then itโs that simple. So the Orioles winning two straight road games. We talked about that three game winning streak. factoid they went to on the road a whole lot this year. Now never under this pressure but itโs far from impossible to do this. Even if Yeah, the Orioles are very clearly the underdog at this point. Being down to
Nestor Aparicio 35:40
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